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Aug. 20, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4721: The Rumble In The West: Texas Redistricting Fight
Participants
Main voices
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alex degrasse
06:04
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august takala
07:12
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mike howell
06:35
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natalie winters
15:40
Appearances
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brian harrison
02:30
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katy tur
01:35
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megan coyne
01:06
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nicolle wallace
01:13
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trevor comstock
01:56
Clips
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adam wren
00:53
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basil smikle
00:54
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jake tapper
00:10
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steve bannon
00:40
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megan coyne
I think that Governor Newsom is absolutely showing us all a master class right now in how government social media should be functioning.
It's funny, it's quick, it's culturally relevant, it's cutting through the noise and it's landing.
It's kind of a win-win because it's energizing Democrats while really frustrating Republicans.
They're sort of not sure how to react to someone meeting them where they are and copying their playbook.
And Democrats really aren't used to someone standing up, calling Republicans out constantly and landing punch after punch after punch without flinching.
And that's exactly what Governor Newsom is doing right now.
And that's why it's just so exciting to see.
katy tur
Just hours from now, Texas Republicans are poised to give Donald Trump exactly what he has been asking for a new congressional map that adds five Republican seats to the US House, a shift that could help lock in a GOP majority before a single vote is cast next year.
Lawmakers are debating the new maps right now on the floor of the Texas House, and a final vote is expected in just a few hours.
The Republican drawn map breaks apart Democratic strongholds in Austin, Dallas, and Houston while making the battleground districts in South Texas even redder.
basil smikle
You're right.
It's provocative.
It's ostentatious and it meets the moment.
You know, I think if you're looking for something for him to do that is intellectually stimulating, that's great.
But what's better is that there's an emotional reaction, even if it's just a laugh, even if it's like that, that's crazy, because it got you to do something and react to politics in a way that you may not have done before.
And it is true that it does hold up a mirror to what's happening on the right, you know, because you have, if you're saying to yourself, why the heck would he do that, Donald Trump?
Why would he post that?
Why would he do this?
To be able to turn it back and say, well, you see how ridicul how ridiculous this is?
This is our politics today.
Now, you're right.
It is a campaign strategy.
I don't know if this works a year from now.
But for this moment, given all the heavy stuff that we're dealing with, it does seem to be breaking through.
nicolle wallace
Apparently, partisan ones drawn up mid-decade by Republicans at the request of Donald Trump, attempting to gobble up more seats in Congress.
Of course, the truth of the matter is that today's long awaited result is all but certain.
Barring lobotomy on the part of the Republicans or some sudden moral awakening, the GOP map in Texas will pass.
But the victory for Democrats today may rest not on a near certain result in Texas, but in the fight and the grit and the awakening and the willingness to do whatever it takes now to save democracy and to be seen doing it.
That's why images like this one from yesterday are so powerful.
Texas Democrats ripping up permission slips, which amount to hall passes.
They were made compulsory by Texas Republicans just for the privilege of leaving the building.
Of course, the reason those passes were deemed necessary and the reason Texas why they're trolling everywhere they go, including to the grocery store is because those Democrats made the decision to leave the state, to leave Texas, to prevent Republicans from having a quorum.
katy tur
You know, making fun of Donald Trump, the trolling of Donald Trump, and also anybody who tries to come after him, he's been trolling Fox News, Dana Perino, who's been trolling Kid Rock.
I mean, anybody who tries to come after him, he posts back just in the same way that Donald Trump does.
How do you take that, though, and then say, this is satire, this is me trying to show you how ridiculous this is, but let now listen to me be serious.
Now listen to my policy.
megan coyne
Yeah, there's absolutely a way for him to do that.
I think we saw this last week when he held his press conference on redistricting.
He's moving forward with it.
He's not all talk and not following it up with any action.
And I'm sure that they'll continue to balance that.
And it helps draw people in.
So he's doing all these crazy, ridiculous, fun things.
It draws people in.
And then they're going to see more of the serious from him.
He's a very accomplished governor.
So people are going to be seeing a lot more of that in their feeds.
katy tur
So the people that are maybe seeing it, Adam, are they going to be beyond the Democrats?
Is it going to be the folks the Democrats need?
The Times had a great take-out today showing that voter registration for Democrats and Basil, I'll get you on this is plummeting.
I mean, they're just hemorrhaging voters every single year.
New registration for new voters.
They're not coming out as Democratic.
They're not taking the Democratic box.
So is this reaching those folks?
adam wren
Yeah.
You know, what's interesting is I talked to a New Hampshire Democrat, Jim Demers, whose job it is with Stand Up New Hampshire to bring some of these 2028 candidates to this early primary state.
And he told me that in the context of redistricting, Newsom is really breaking through to Democratic primary voters there.
They see him as a counterweight to Donald Trump.
They see him as a Democrat who is fighting Trump.
And this exit count, I think, is of a piece with that.
It's framing him as someone who is taking Trump head on.
Two people in the arena, the White House is officially responding to it with their own memes.
And so I think it's breaking through beyond just people who are super online and real early state primary voters are hearing about what Newsom's doing around redistricting.
They like it.
And the X account sort of dovetails with that in a way that does break through.
unidentified
The conversations I've had with Democratic governors throughout this country and all of our Democratic elected officials.
nicolle wallace
Before I asked them to leave, they said it's a felony for me to do this.
katy tur
Apparently, I can't be on the floor.
unidentified
You told me I was only allowed to be here in the bathroom.
megan coyne
No, hold on.
katy tur
Bye, everybody.
I have to go.
unidentified
Hey, that's that's outrageous.
First of all, let me tell you something.
Representative Collier in the bathroom has more dignity than Donald Trump in the Oval Office.
steve bannon
There you go.
unidentified
That's outrageous.
What they're trying to do right there is silence an American leader, silence a black woman, and that's outrageous.
And I hope everyone took note of that.
The fact that she can't even let her voice be heard is freaking outrageous.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
You're going to not get a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA media.
I wish, in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country.
This country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bowne.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bowne.
natalie winters
You're in the War Room.
It's Wednesday, August 20 in the year of our Lord, 2025.
We've got an extremely packed show, but we're going to start with what I think might be the best action, action, action call that the War Room Policy has ever received.
I'm honored to bring on our first guest, August Takala, who has been tweeting up and doing just an entire media firestorm.
Not just about the scam, frankly, the racket that is the whole H one B visa scam, but particularly how Americans can fight back and certainly enrage these big tech companies that are trying to replace us.
And yes, media matters, I'm using the word replace because that's what they're trying to do.
It's a little site called jobs.now.
You had a great hit.
I think it was on OAN.
I saw Revolver was picking up a lot of coverage.
But you've really just been dropping truth bombs about the scam that is the H one B visa.
Can you kind of run our audience through what exactly jobs.now is?
is and how it is pushing back against H1B visas flooding this country.
august takala
Hey Natalie, thanks for having me on.
Yeah, so what they're doing is they're posting job listings that primarily big tech companies don't want Americans to find.
They don't want them to find them because it disrupts their hiring process for so called perm workers, people who have timeed out of the H1B process and are seeking green cards to win American citizenship.
When Americans apply, it sets in motion a whole host of effects where the Where it changes how they have to consider their applicants and the Department of Labor also gets involved in the process to determine if these H one B workers can get citizenship on the alleged grounds that these companies can't find qualified American employees.
And as we all know, generally there is an American qualified American worker, especially in this economy.
That's why they have to go to extraordinary lengths to try to hide these postings.
So jobs.
Now is trying to make those available for people to apply and to make it more cumbersome for these companies to hire foreign nationals without any objection or resistance.
natalie winters
They always play an interesting, I think, kind of shell game with the data, particularly on visa overstays.
They're very cagey about releasing the real data.
Obviously, the original studies that they used to cite to justify a lot of these weird visa cutouts and carve-outs, adding on the spouses, it's sort of bogus science.
But just from the numbers that we can ascertain, I think it's 1.7 million, what is it, Chinese, Indians and other foreign nationals working here in the United States.
Can you just kind of walk us through all of the available data, just how vast a problem this really is?
august takala
Yeah.
Well, let me start by saying that 1.7 million figure is not set in stone.
We actually don't know because the federal government is not publishing, doesn't publish the overall number.
They publish the annual number of applications they've approved and reauthorizations, but they don't publish the overall figure.
So it does beg the question, if these people are not taking American jobs, why can't we have transparency?
Why can't we have the number?
But you have the proportions correct.
India for the last year fiscal year 2024, Indians were the primary beneficiaries.
They had 283,000 applications approved or renewed.
China came in second with almost 47,000.
So those are the top two beneficiaries.
One of them is a totalitarian regime and they're both allied with the world's worst regimes via BRICS, Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa.
These are American adversaries.
So these are the countries that the H one B program is benefiting, we should be asking how, what, how does it benefit the United States?
It benefits these big tech companies, but does it benefit anyone else?
And really, you could say that American citizenship itself is a large part of the compensation that these companies are dangling in front of prospective workers.
What is that worth?
The Trump administration obviously has put a dollar figure on it of five million dollars.
So in essence, it seems like they're offering a five million dollar bonus package to their workers and Americans.
are paying for it in a lot more ways than we can quantify economically.
natalie winters
Well, I think that's what's so interesting.
I think both the kind of quantitative data, but also the kind of more abstract in terms of how you conceive of what it means to be an American citizen, the idea, at least mine, of the social contract and that your government should be actively working to replace you and suppress, depress your wages and create less safe streets with illegal truck drivers that seem to get rammed through their driving permits even when they're what, passing like two out of fourteen on the driving test.
It just doesn't make sense.
And then you compound that with the fact that big tech is clandestine toinely posting these job listings.
They don't want Americans to be able to apply to them.
It really is a racket.
I mean, I call it a conspiracy.
We'll throw that into the words you can't use.
But how more importantly can Americans actually fight back and I'm sure cause a huge thorn in the side to these big tech companies?
Can you just walk us through one more time the site where people can go and how easy it is to apply?
august takala
Well, you can check out jobs.
Now that's one thing you can do.
But I do think conservatives are in a strong position right now because the Trump administration is not doing much, almost anything to fight back against this phenomenon at the moment.
For example, with family members of H1B workers, those make up up to seven hundred thousand of those 1.7 million people.
And there's been a lawsuit since 2015 pending over that issue and the Trump administration has taken the same side as the Obama administration.
Pam Bondi's Justice Department has taken the same side in fighting against the Americans on behalf of the Indians.
So the Justice Department is not doing what it could be there.
It also falls on the Justice Department to prosecute or I should say file lawsuits against against these companies when they discriminate against American workers.
They did that on the last Trump administration in cases that settled under Biden against Apple and Facebook.
Apple, by the way, paid a settlement of 25 million dollars over that.
And, you know, what is that worth, like three iPhones?
So the Trump administration could be doing a lot more to pursue these companies that are coming against America.
natalie winters
So I have to hold you through.
I know the audience is jazzed up and the Trump administration needs to be doing a lot more on this.
This is the fight itself, what it means to be an American.
You can't say you put America first if you're actively discriminating against American workers.
We'll be back right after this short break.
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A lot of movement at the Fed today.
I think we'll have time to get into that on today's show as well.
We've got a quick call in, then we're going to wrap the H1B discussion, but we're going to go real quick to Brian Harrison because he has, Representative Brian Harrison, he's on the floor in Texas, waiting a vote that you might have to drop.
So we had a cold open giving us the latest as to what's going on there with the redistricting fight.
unidentified
Can you give us all the updates we need, please?
brian harrison
Yeah, you bet.
So the Democrats after totally sabotaging, I mean completely victorious, destroyed the entire first special session, have finally come back on their own terms to the state of Texas.
And we are now on the floor of the Texas House and the map is before us.
So we hopefully will be voting on the map soon.
The only problems are we should we should have voted on this by now, but the Texas House Rhino leadership has been giving the Democrats motions to extend their time.
So after the last three weeks where they've been on every media outlet in the world calling us, you know, racists and every other possible pejorative and ridiculous name, the Rhino leadership in the Texas House has been going out of their way to give the Democrats more time to continue calling us racists and attack these maps today.
So it's just, you know, one in a long line of indignities where the Republican leadership in the state of Texas is falling down on the job and not fighting the Democrats with every tool that we have legally available.
But the good news is I do think we're probably going to be voting here in very short order.
In fact, I may have to drop any second to do that.
But the bad news is that even after all the talk about arrests, no Democrats were arrested, no seats were vacated, they're all here.
And all the talk, including from our governor saying, Hey, we could add ten more Republican seats in Texas.
The map that was filed by the leadership down here only has five new Republican seats, and believe me, five is definitely better than nothing.
we should have gotten this done by now, but I think we should have added at least one more Republican seat for every week the Democrats were gone.
So it's a little bit of a disappointment that we're only adding five and not at least seven.
The Democrat states are fighting as hard for the future as the Democrats are.
But that's about as quick as I can make the updates now.
I'll know more, a lot more in a few hours for you.
But I just want to say a special thank you to the posse.
You all been with us.
So it was before this became the biggest story, one of the biggest stories in the world.
So you guys and the posse and Steve and Natalie, you guys have been just a driver.
And I don't think with, I think, I do believe without the pressure from the posse blowing up the phone lines in the capital, this might, we might not be doing anything.
So major credits and words of appreciation for all of you.
natalie winters
Brian, we'll let you bounce.
Good luck.
You have kept up the fight.
You were the tip of the spear.
The posse feels the same way about you.
Although, humbly, the posse is the best political force that I think they're the best.
They're always at your back.
One more time, if people want to follow you, get the updates on the vote.
Where can they go to do that?
brian harrison
Yeah, go to the most hated feed in the Texas Capitol.
Do your civic duty and piss off a rhino today by following me on Twitter today at Brian E. Harrison on X at Brian E. Harrison and at Brian E. Harrison.
I know I'll be talking with you guys soon, but I really appreciate it, Natalie.
Everything you've done.
natalie winters
Something tells me you'll be back on pretty soon.
Thank you, sir, for joining us.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian harrison
Talk to you all soon.
august takala
God bless you all.
natalie winters
Yeah, of course.
And speaking of feckless rhino republicans, I think that brings us back to the previous topic of discussion, which is H1B visas and the cheapening of American citizenship, just so big business, big tech corporates can maximize their profits and root out this country and destroy this cultural fabric while they're at it.
August, we'll let you go.
Sorry we had to interrupt that, but just pick up where you left off.
If you were advising the Trump administration on what they can actually do to make a difference, whether it's publishing the data sets, using the courts.
I know there's a issue working its way up to the Supreme Court, I think coming from a lot of the US tech workers, that group of great patriots, but just hit us with what you were talking about before.
august takala
Yeah, so in terms of what we, you know, what we can do to call attention to this issue or get some movement on it, there's a lawsuit pending with the Supreme Court because the DOJ is still contesting it, Pan Bondi's DOJ.
But since since they have time to work on that, we should also call on them to investigate Apple, Microsoft, and some of these other companies that are using so many H one B workers, Amazon, which has forty thousand H one B workers.
There are just so many questions about why these companies need these people, you know, for one.
For one, Microsoft has offices in India.
They could hire these people in their own countries.
But again, it seems like they're dangling a five million dollar bonus in the form of American citizenship.
If the Justice Department has time to prosecute Steve Bannon, Roger Stone, and many other patriots, they should have time to look into this.
I mean, look into national public radio.
They've had more than thirty H1Bs in the last seven years.
Are you telling me you can't find American journalists to do that work?
Like I know a lot of journalists who are not fully employed right now.
I think there's strong cause for an investigation into those organizations.
That's one thing that we should be doing.
A second question we should ask is why do H1Bs lead to green cards at all?
That doesn't need to be the case.
So if that really isn't part of the compensation package, why doesn't the Trump administration just end employment based citizenship?
That's a second thing we could be calling for.
A third thing is this goes beyond the scope of H1Bs.
It goes into H2As.
But these are agricultural workers.
Those visas don't have any cap at all.
They're unlimited.
All of the people we're deporting could come back and apply for that visa and get into the country legally if they want to fill out the paperwork.
Why is that the case?
And calling for a cap on that is something we should think about doing.
And the fourth thing is transparency.
I have Freedom of Information Act requests in to find out the number of H one Bs in the country and the number of their family members right now because we don't have that information.
And we'll see if the Trump administration wants to provide it.
But if they don't provide it to me, they should at least in the long term, begin to make that number public.
Because we need more transparency on these issues.
So I think those are a few simple steps that the Trump administration could be taking to help make this problem better.
And that's just the lowest hanging fruit, but it's not being done.
natalie winters
Ayes, thank you so much for being at the forefront of this.
If people want to follow you and stay up to date with everything you're working on, where can they go to do that?
august takala
Rudy Tackle on Twitter dot com or x dot com.
natalie winters
Thank you, sir, so much for coming on.
august takala
Thank you.
natalie winters
Frankly, I would add too that I don't even think we want what caps or maybe we'll make the the caps zero.
I think people who are coming in, let alone from some of the most hostile countries, are sworn foreign adversaries, particularly China, which, like I always say, is the second highest recipient of these H1B visas, while our big tech overlords try to lie to us and spin to us that the reason why we need to import a bunch of Chinese nationals is so we can have a better edge over China.
It's absolutely asinine, especially when you compound that with the fact that China's Article 7 of their National Intelligence Law literally demands that any Chinese national, for whatever reason, whatever purpose, wherever they may be, whatever they may be doing, can be requisitioned by the state, by the Chinese government Communist Party for national security purposes to help achieve whatever ends they want.
Gee, I wonder why the Chinese Communist Party is always caught with their hand in the cookie jar stealing IP theft from virtually every single American company.
And I'm sure you guys saw the story, right?
What is it about how Microsoft was outsourcing not just their any work but work with the DOD, work with the Pentagon to a bunch of Chinese engineers in Shanghai, because that makes sense.
Well, I guess it also makes sense that Windows China Government Edition, that's right, they actually built the operating system that the Chinese Comese Communist Party uses to administer all of China.
And in the press release where they announced that they were contracting and working directly with the highest levels of Beijing leadership, that they were actually using the same technological systems that they had set up here in the United States.
It's really disgusting.
And for all the talk that we've heard from the Trump administration about how important these tariffs are to secure the American worker, their wages, their rights to a decent living, securing the border, it all goes to two sides of the same coin, right?
Immigration is not just something that's about taxes and fiscal policy and obviously the negative impact that a bunch of illegals have on this country.
But it's cultural too.
And the H1B stuff gets to the heart of that.
In the same sentence, in the same breath, where we're pushing tariffs because we want to protect American workers, you can't then justify expanding H1B visa caps.
Frankly, any H1B, I'd deport all of them.
I'd deport all of them yesterday and I'd throw in the Chinese students while we're at it, and probably all Chinese nationals too.
Because you know why?
We don't need these people.
And we never did.
And America wasn't built because we imported a bunch of Chinese nationals and a bunch of Indians and a bunch of people who don't speak this language.
It's the spirit of the American worker, of the American people, and it's extremely disgusting that these big tech companies are running roughshod like they have for decades and continue to and feel the need they get to they get away with hiding the job postings.
They know what they're doing.
They have blood on their hands.
They know exactly what they're doing.
They're purposely posting these certain jobs on a website that you as an American, someone whose taxes built these stupid companies from the ground up, that you can't even apply for.
And now, oh yeah, sorry, tech bros.
Yeah, you're America First.
I don't thinkt think so.
Screw you guys.
There is no issue that gets me more upset because it's so disgusting and just evil than what happens on the H-1B visa front when you see what American workers and the American people are going through.
It's jobs.
Now, you, your grandkids, your children, your friends, send it around and give a big middle finger to the people who deserve it most.
The people who want to replace you and replace your grandchildren with a bunch of Indians and Chinese.
No, thank you.
I prefer to be American.
We'll be right back after this short break.
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Yes, Philip may have an accent, but I think he's an American.
But certainly no HMB visa recipients.
Definitely not.
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Mike Howell, you who have been waiting patiently while I waxed on about the horrors of the H-1B visa program, it is my personal enemy.
It's just the absolute worst thing that I think exists in this country, frankly, in the world.
But speaking of other very bad things that exist, that is the concept, the newfound concept of preemptive presidential pardons, of course, it was the Biden regime that came up with that one.
But Ed Martin over at DOJ has been really pushing forward, doing some great work on covering some documents that you guys are highlighting over at the Oversight Project.
Can you walk us through on the AutoPen front?
Uh, what we've discovered.
mike howell
Right.
So, so yesterday we put out some bombshell documents and they were produced to us by Ed Martin.
Quickly on him, you know, I know a lot in the posse, I've been frustrated in the pace and lack of accountability in this administration.
But so long as Ed Martin is there, there's a fighting chance, whether it's Letitia James, uh, Adam Schiff, and now the Autopenn.
And so basically the Autopenn has been a little bit of a standstill.
There have been these announcements of government investigations, but, but no real progress.
But then walks in Ed Martin, who is the pardon officer and has access to these documents and produces to the oversight project in email from one America.
From one of Merrick Garland's top, if not the tippy top, career official in the Department of Justice, who the day after Joe Biden issued these sweeping pardons to what he was saying were nonviolent criminals, this lawyer on the Saturday morning pulled the fire alarm, issued this lengthy email saying this whole thing is bogus, it can't work for all these different legal reasons.
The president, not an autopen, needs to actually weigh in and answer these things.
And oh, by the way, you should stop saying that these are nonviolent criminals, because guess what?
They're some of the worst violent criminals that you're actually releasing.
So that's the document we put up.
This breaks the thing wide open again.
And I think the Trump administration is poised for action now because they have, guess what, the Biden administration agreeing with them in their own DOJ.
natalie winters
Well, speaking of the DOJ and transparency, I know you guys have also been at the tip of the spear on all things.
Epstein, I'm just curious if you guys have gotten any documents or any movement on that front.
mike howell
So no is the short answer.
We were obviously very vocal.
We thought the rollout of the announcement to close it down was clearly botched.
And I think that's not even controversial to say right now.
I think everyone agrees it was botched.
But there was a development today.
You might recall a, about a month or so ago, there was this theory that was put out there that the DOJ would ask a grand jury to release documents and to take everyone's kind of eye off the ball for a little bit.
And then today the judge overseeing that basically said, hey guess what guys?
There's really no documents here.
There's no witnesses who even testified to the grand jury or victims, rather, only one government witness who had no idea what was going on.
There's only a few dozen pages of documents.
And furthermore, hey Department of Justice, you're the one who has all the information.
You can release it if you want.
Now they've said the DOJ that they're going to start giving things to Comer.
As I've been saying, this thing's a mess.
It would be great if the U.S. government could just come clean if, you know, Epstein was an intel asset of either ours or somebody else.
I think everyone kind of knows what's going on at this point and it wouldn't hurt just to be candid about that, you know, one very basic fact and maybe a little promise never to take advantage of a, you know, sex trafficker in this regard again.
natalie winters
I'm curious what you make of the appointment of former AG Andrew Bailey to the co-deputy director of the FBI.
unidentified
Yeah.
mike howell
Well, look, AG Bailey is a superstar.
He, you know, actually was involved at the beginning of our auto pen investigation because he.
Because he brought the issue back to the forefront when he challenged all of Biden's basic actions based on competency issues.
So I've long been a fan of him.
I'll say it's highly unusual for there to be a co deputy director of the FBI.
So I think it kind of points to a potential shakeup there.
There have been some, you know, mistakes along the way.
We haven't seen the FBI substantially reformed.
Instead, we've kind of been told it's great now that there's new leadership there and we shouldn't worry and we should just applaud.
That's not to say Cash and Dan haven't done some good things.
But when you bring in a new senior leader at this point, I think it tends to confirm what it looks like that there's going to be some changes at play.
I don't know if that means the FBI is going to change the tactics and actually work towards some serious prosecutions instead of just, you know, papering over old things.
But I'm hopeful.
In Bailey, we trust and we've trusted before though.
natalie winters
I was walking around DC yesterday.
I saw a bunch of the trucks, the MRAPs, the National Guard, I think FBI agents.
They were pooling and talking to each other and I think sort of dispersing around.
I'm curious how you think they're doing in the rollout of what is, you know, making DC great again.
mike howell
Yeah, I think it's largely performative, unfortunately., there is an opportunity for the Trump administration really to take control of Washington, DC in a full throat way.
And that opportunity kind of diminished last Friday in court when two of the DOJ's lawyers, Yakov is one of their names, and Paul Perkins went in there and kind of laid down from what it looked like from the outside, where they basically told the judge they had no problems with the constitutionality of home rule, which is a little complicated maybe for those who haven't been following it.
But if you're teasing up the reassertion of federal constitutional control of DC, you certainly should take an issue with the constitutionality of a statute that takes it away.
And then they left court.
with a basically coparenting agreement with NPD.
And then you have Attorney General Bondi speaking in terms such as partnership, having a barbecue with the NPD.
You have these watered down agreements and you are not seeing the kind of full throat broken windows policing enforcement that DC needs.
You're seeing photo ops and some stats that are questionable in nature.
There's still time to fix it and it should be fixed.
This is the capital city.
It's a federal responsibility.
America's 250 is coming up and it needs to be cleaned up, but it's not going to be cleaned up with this kind of weak willy-dilly coparenting.
I live and work in DC.
It doesn't look like a federal takeover, I'll tell you that much.
natalie winters
I remember the post January 6 days, the fencing, and not that I'm calling for that to come back, but I I've seen the city being essentially taken over federally.
Mike, last question before we let you go, bringing it back to, I think, the other issue.
You're getting all the good topics today on the issue of deportations.
We've seen some new detention facilities opened, but you have some numbers on how many people they can actually detain there and how this is actually going to roll out.
Can you kind of walk the audience through where we stand on that regard.
mike howell
Where we're living through what I'll call mass communications, not mass deportations.
The numbers are low.
They're Obama level low.
Instead, we're seeing this focus on, I'll say, quality over quantity.
It's like the Department of Homeland Security only wants to talk about, well, the say is the worst of the worst.
And look, they need more detention beds and they're getting some, but they're rapping in fanfare of this new announcement out in Nebraska.
And I was excited.
I love deportation beds more than Joe Biden loves ice cream.
But I clicked the press release and I see the numbers, 280.
That's not a lot of detention beds.
And then I read a little further and see it's only to house what they'll call criminal illegal worst of the worst translation.
It's not for mass deportations, which obviously expands far beyond this really subset of illegal aliens in the country who go on to rape and murder or do other crimes.
I mean, Nebraska has a lot of illegal farm labor, and so they're basically saying like those people won't be in this Nebraska facility and they're just going to try to meme their way through it in a very online way.
I want to see commas in my deportation numbers.
I want them in the millions.
Right now, we're not close to that.
I think President Trump wants to get there, but it's not going to happen until the policy changes where they have this really narrow Obama and Biden's strategy of focusing just on quote unquote criminal illegals.
It needs to be mass deportations.
natalie winters
Mike Howell always bringing the fire.
If people want to follow you, stay up to date with everything you guys got going on over there.
Where can they go to do that?
mike howell
We're on X at It's Your Gov and I am at M Howell Tweets.
natalie winters
Thank you, sir, for joining us.
mike howell
Thanks for having me.
natalie winters
Of course, and happy to bring you guys a little bit of good news on the deportation front.
Huge Trump victory.
The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has just given President Trump the green light to revoke legal status for sixty thousand migrants, legal aliens, whatever you want to call them, from Honduras, Nicaragua and Nepal.
This was previously blocked by a Biden era judge, Trina Thompson.
So I guess we can say, bye bye, fire up those deportation planes and let's get on it.
We are joined now by Alex deGrasse.
Alex, we had Brian on.
He was live from the floor.
I think they might even be voting right now.
Can you kind of hit us with the latest where we stand on that redistricting front?
alex degrasse
Yeah, so they're on the floor.
It looks like obviously, like Brian mentioned, they're voting, which is huge.
You've got California, which I know Steve has been talking about.
their gearing up that's going to face voters on the ballot.
It's sort of imperative that we defeat that.
I think there's a lot of videos coming out.
Obviously, the DCCC, I mean, this is hardball, just like, you know, Steve's been saying the DCCC, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, actually, they're so blamed.
They openly said they even drew the lines actually in California and sent them over to Newsom and sort of the state legislators while legally they're claiming they drew the lines.
Of course, they didn't.
And so that's the whole thing.
And that will be on the ballot.
So actually, if we can defeat that in the polling, some polling had the maps being defeated by thirty.
Now Newsom's pollster has come out and says that they're winning by ten points.
So that will face the voters and those are very high stakes for Newsom.
Of course, that's he's been focusing on sort of Newsom obviously trying to run for president.
So we've got the where this is getting passed on Texas, which is huge.
You saw Indiana.
It looks like, you know, Senator Jim Banks came out strongly in support of President Trump's effort.
I believe the governor did as well.
And you saw the congressional delegation come out in support of, you know, mid-decade redistricting in Indiana.
Florida is talking about it.
So these states that we've been talking about are some of the starting to come online, but I think it's imperative that people move faster, Natalie, like everything else, obviously.
natalie winters
Can you talk to us too on sort of the flip side of it, what democrats could potentially be doing to sort of push back?
Like, do you have any insight on what their efforts to redistrict, for example, in California could look like from a seat perspective?
alex degrasse
Yeah.
So in California, so I think the reason why there's this massive panic in that world we talked about is the democrats have tied their hands to an extent on two fronts.
A, they've already really redistricted themselves to the maximum capacity for the most part.
Okay.
And then the second thing is states like New York, states like California, they've got this extra step of a constitutional sort of requirement on the independent quote unquote redistricting.
And so that's why in California they're facing, they have to face the voters because they essentially have to tear apart their constitution, which forces an independent process.
And so that's being challenged in court and that's interesting.
I think in California, you're going to look at five or six seats wiped off the board.
And I think that we, so it kind of nets out on Texas, right?
And that's why these follow-up states were so important, the Missouri, the Indiana, Florida.
you're looking down the south in general.
So I think that is what's really key.
I think New York, they can't.
They're looking at two cycles from now, or sorry, the next cycle.
So, you know, 2027, there'd be a ballot referendum to then open up the redistricting process for 2028.
And so that's why they're panicking is because they don't have the tools to really answer.
And so we have the ability, if we fight this out, to pick up, you know, about 10, 15 seats.
unidentified
if we lose in California.
natalie winters
Alex, if you can hang with us through the break, I got a few more questions.
I know the posse is eager to call Bern.
to burn down the phone lines of all these states.
We need another redistricting fight since apparently most of our elected rhino republicans won't do that for us.
Warren Posse, in the meantime, make sure you're checking out Tax Network USA.
That's tnusa dot com slash Bannon, or you can call 1800 958 1000 for a free consultation.
You're going to have a busy next couple of months making these phone calls.
So these rhino's get their act together.
We'll be right back after this short break.
unidentified
Whoa.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
natalie winters
Welcome back to the war room.
Denver, giving me a little bit of attitude in the breaks, we press on.
We still got Alex to grasp.
Alex, obviously the big news too with what President Trump is doing on the mail and ballot front, trying to get rid of them.
And I loved all the adjectives he used to describe the voting machines.
Walk us through what you think that looks like and just the details there.
alex degrasse
Well, I think it's a national voter ID is very important.
And I think you'll see some of these states crumble politically, California, New York, where they don't require it.
I mean, for the New York Posse members, I mean, it's totally wild.
You go in there to vote.
They don't ask anything.
They ask you to sign, but there's no verification.
process.
You can't even really challenge the votes now because of the way the election system works with the bipartisan board of elections.
They can kind of cancel each other's vote out in order to proceed with any type of questioning of a ballot.
So the crux of everything, on, you know, as well as with the illegal immigration issue is obviously the voting system.
And I think a lot of people are hoping, you know, that President Trump can get this done.
And I believe he can, of course, because it is one of the core issues facing this country is we have to clean the voting rolls.
We have to secure the elections.
We need the paper ballots.
And of course, look, we support legal absentees.
If our people can't vote, their people can't vote.
You've got something going on.
You're sick.
There needs to be a process.
You need to, you know, have checks on that.
Submit an application, say where you're going to be on all that type of stuff.
But these sort of unregulated, unfeathered mass mail and ballots where in New York State you can go online and just go on a website and just get a ballot sent to you.
I mean, that's what it is now.
You go online and you get a ballot sent to you.
As long as you know.
All you need is your birth date.
I mean, there's nothing stopping criminals and bad actors from going in and requesting.
I mean, literally, you'd have no idea.
Obviously, it's illegal, but there's no enforccement mechanism and there's no way to really protect against this stuff.
And you've got California, New York, you know, these major, major states that are the crux of a lot of seats for Congress.
And we looked at what happened with California last election and people were we were going crazy on this show and we were on the ground doing the best we can.
And a lot of people have actually confronted me and said, hey, you guys don't have a handle on it.
And I would agree, of course.
But you look at California where the ballots are coming in from like a month, a month and a half ballots appearing.
I mean, you don't need a postmark.
So people say, hey, it's state's rights.
They've got it, you know, and it's clear on that.
But honestly, it's not the case.
and you have a federal right here looking at Congress, looking at people's equal representation across all the states, just like with the census and the reapportionment on the redistricting where, yeah, there's a federal angle and if your state is allowing illegal immigrants and canceling out the votes and representation of Congress of legal citizens elsewhere, it sort of is a legal issue.
So I think there is a federal angle for President Trump to take and I think he is.
And I'm very excited about it because it really, if we can get national voter ID, we can get, you know, guardrails up on the absentee ballot process without sort of mass unfeathered male ballots, right?
Then and they're saying, oh, he wants to ban absentees.
That's not true.
He's talking about the mass male and ballots where you don't need anything and they're just sent out the door.
I mean, it's really crazy that it's come to this in this country.
Nowhere else is like this, Natalie, obviously.
No other first world country.
natalie winters
I always say it's actually, I think, insulting to third world countries to compare it to third world election systems.
Alex, I think we've got to bounce to our next guest.
We've got a few minutes left.
In the meantime, before we have you back on, where can people go to follow you and stay up to date with everything you're working on?
alex degrasse
Thank you, Natalie.
So I'm at deGrasse 81 on X on Get her truth.
Thank you guys.
Thank you Natalie.
You're doing great.
I look forward to being back on.
natalie winters
Of course.
Thank you, sir.
We'll have you back on soon.
And hey, all I'm saying from the narrative warfare perspective, what was it, I think, today?
What was it just two days after President Trump's true social post declaring no more election fraud?
Lots of steps to get there, but, you know, all of a sudden the New York Times was a long, winding, long winded profile piece about how Democrat voter registration across like every state is hitting record lows.
unidentified
Hmm.
natalie winters
Almost like they're pregame pregaming the narrative when we can finally see that all these ghost votes that never actually existed are not there.
Well, they're going to blame, I guess it's believable that the Democratic Party is so out of touch, their registration is record low, which of course it is, but they're also, what is it?
I think we've never been able to find what is it, the ten million missing votes from 2020 to 2024.
Yeah, I won't hold my breath on that one.
We'll leave it at that.
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natalie winters
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trevor comstock
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natalie winters
Thank you so much for joining us.
trevor comstock
Thanks, Natalie.
natalie winters
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As I always say, this whole immigration thing, it's not just about economic impacts, it's a cultural thing.
And I don't know, call me a radical, call me I'm sure there's a whole bunch of attacks that they will hurl at me, call me whatever you want.
I believe there's something worth preserving about being a legacy American, a heritage American, and no corporate oligarchs are going to take that away from me.
So screw you H one BB soldiers.
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