Aug. 16, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| Urgent's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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| Stephen K. Band. | ||
| It's Saturday, 16 August, the year of our Lord 2025, the morning after. | ||
| Now, you might be sitting there if you're a longtime War Room audience member, part of the War Room posse, and think, wow, we would think today of all days that the crack production team at War Room, coupled with our crack production distribution team at Real America's Voice up in Denver, would have just an amazing cold open that would get us our heads blowing up. | ||
| We do have that, but we want to kind of bifurcate this into signal and noise. | ||
| Last night, it was pretty obvious when President Trump came back and on the plane had a one and a half hour phone call from Air Force One. | ||
| The hour and a half, one hour was with Zelensky and a half hours with the EU, the leaders of certain of the leaders of the European Union. | ||
| Remember, the objectives for this war from the beginning for the globalist are to have Ukraine as a member of the European Union and a member NATO. | ||
| Okay, full stop. | ||
| That's where they've instigated this war over the longest period of time. | ||
| Yes, they talk about democracy and all that, yet they overthrew in the color revolution a democratically elected, although Yo, a rigged, definitely a rigged or at least had all the aspects of a rigged election back in Ukraine. | ||
| Russia had got the candidate that they want, but the color revolution overthrew that. | ||
| And Zelensky, you can't say Zielinski is any more democratic since he essentially has dictatorial powers and refuses to have another election. | ||
| And now you've seen the rancor in his parliament, particularly around his corruption and the cronies and oligarchs around him, the corruption. | ||
| But the enlightening part of yesterday is clearly Putin is not open to a ceasefire. | ||
| He says, I need a comprehensive deal. | ||
| And the reason he's not going to go to a ceasefire, he says, hey, I'm winning on the battlefield. | ||
| I may not be winning. | ||
| It may be inch by inch, but I'm winning on the battlefield. | ||
| So why should I give a ceasefire? | ||
| That's only going to give him time to rearm and regroup. | ||
| It's also give them time. | ||
| Once a ceasefire, it'll just stretch on. | ||
| So it's all or nothing. | ||
| You give me a peace deal. | ||
| Let's work through a comprehensive peace deal. | ||
| No ceasefire. | ||
| Now, whether that was a misinterpretation by anybody on President Trump's staff or the negotiating team, who knows? | ||
| But they were pretty, I think, blunt that no ceasefire. | ||
| Let's get right into a comprehensive deal. | ||
| The EU has now leaked, the European Union has now leaked the conversation with President Trump, and they put out a declaration. | ||
| That declaration, and if we can pull that, I think I've got it up on Getter, at least I've linked to part of it on Getter. | ||
| The European Union is really in President Trump's grill. | ||
| Talks about security guarantees. | ||
| It implies a massive financial commitment for the reconstruction of Ukraine. | ||
| And in the security guarantee, they basically say in an American-led security guarantee, and oh, by the way, we're there to help. | ||
| We're also there to assist. | ||
| Okay, we're there to assist. | ||
| Zelensky's put out a series of demands. | ||
| If that's not bad enough, Zelensky's put out a series of demands. | ||
| And he's been invited to the White House on Monday. | ||
| He's put a series of demands out of which the security guarantee and the financial reconstruction is all part of it. | ||
| So if you have the massive financial, and we've talked about the Ukraine deal, which you know we don't love, in fact, we hate it. | ||
| But if it leads to getting some sort of peace, maybe it's okay, the minerals deal. | ||
| This is much different than that. | ||
| And more importantly, is the American security guarantee, which is equivalent to Article 5 of NATO. | ||
| If both of these were to take place as a condition precedent to a peace deal, have the globalists not achieved their objectives? | ||
| Essentially, if you have a massive American commitment over and above the minerals deal, are they not inextricably linked with the European Union economically? | ||
| Of course they are. | ||
| And if we have the equivalent of an American-led, or as they said, even in, I think NBC News put up, or excuse me, it was Axios this morning put up in a summary that America, it's been leaked by the Europeans and by Zelensky, that the Americans are warming to a bigger commitment on American security guarantee. | ||
| Is it not equivalent to having them in NATO? | ||
| Or it's the moral equivalent, right? | ||
| Or the practical equivalent. | ||
| So I want to go through two things. | ||
| One, the warning yesterday on the show and then what happened. | ||
| And then that's going to take the A block. | ||
| Then the B block, we have a traditional coal open. | ||
| We're going to show you all the vitriol of President Trump. | ||
| Nothing President Trump can do in this regard is good enough for him. | ||
| Remember, this is the globalist and the globalist media that started this war. | ||
| The only thing I would say to you, I think, a perfect outcome is like the outcome we're getting right now with the seditious conspiracy in the multiple criminal grand juries that are going on right now that John Solomon talked about. | ||
| That first you defeat them and then you try them. | ||
| This whole situation of how we got so deeply involved in Ukraine, how the money got there, the weapons got there, what the Americans said, what the British said, what they all said, all has to, at some point in time, have the same exact criminal grand jury you're seeing on the seditious treason of Obama and Comey and Brennan and all of it. | ||
| And many of those characters will be involved in this too. | ||
| This is a crime, how we got in this situation. | ||
| President Trump, and they put the entire burden on President Trump. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play. | ||
| I want to kick off with this. | ||
| Then we're going to take a break. | ||
| I've got Jim Rickards is coming in from overseas. | ||
| He's been so fascinated by this and made so many great calls on this. | ||
| Jim Rickards will join us. | ||
| We'll also have a traditional cold open to open the B block so that it can get your blood pressure up and maybe have you reach in for another pot and put another pot on a warpath coffee. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play yesterday's cold open part of it. | ||
| And two things I think we have to be very concerned about and offer advice to President Trump is to avoid two things. | ||
| One, a huge underwriting commitment to the redevelopment of Ukraine. | ||
| We have more than over 37 trillion in debt and $2 trillion deficits and no end in sight. | ||
| And inflation, the inflation that's there, driven not by terrorists, but driven by the Keynesian stimulus we still put in with these deficits and with Congress refusing to consider rescissions or pocket rescuions or impoundments, that this orgy of spending just continues on and on and on, that we have to avoid us stepping up and being a major commitment. | ||
| And even American financial institutions, their focus should be the United States of America. | ||
| We have more than enough need for development in this country, tremendous needs for development in this country. | ||
| You don't need to look in Europe and particularly Ukraine for the United States to be involved. | ||
| And not just the development guarantees and the capital guarantees, even darker are what we call security guarantees. | ||
| Security guarantees essentially mean American, not just arms, but American troops. | ||
| Now, maybe it starts off American troops aren't there, but you set up a tripwire like it would be Tantamont to including Ukraine in NATO as an Article 5 country if the Russians would do anything in the future. | ||
| So a security guarantee and any type of economic guarantees, we really have to fight to make sure that we don't get entrapped further. | ||
| Remember, the whole purpose of America First is to get out of these entanglements, to let the Europeans and the Russians figure it out. | ||
| I'm an advocate that after this deal is done, I don't even know why we have any more combat troops In Europe. | ||
| World War II is over. | ||
| This is the 80th commemoration. | ||
| You put this part of the war to bed. | ||
| It's no need for American combat troops in Germany, the tens of thousands of combat troops we have. | ||
| We have more than enough needs for hemispheric defense throughout the cities of the United States, the border of the United States, down in Panama, taking back the Panama Canal in the Pacific, in our territories, not in foreign territories, but in our territories. | ||
| There's rapid deployment forces. | ||
| This should be the focus. | ||
| We're following several breaking developments on talks to end Russia's war on Ukraine. | ||
| First, a European official tells CNN that part of their overnight conversations with President Donald Trump included Article 5-type security guarantees for Ukraine with European and U.S. backing in the event of a peace deal. | ||
| President Donald Trump got back to Joint Base Andrews a few hours ago, fresh off his summit with President Putin in Anchorage. | ||
| He just posted new details about the summit and his phone call with Ukrainian President Zelensky and NATO leaders on the flight home. | ||
| Here's what we know: Trump says everyone agreed that the best way to end the war would be to go straight to a peace agreement, not a ceasefire deal. | ||
| He went on to say that Zelensky would come to Washington, D.C. on Monday, and if that works out, they would schedule a meeting with Putin. | ||
| Now, hours before, Zelensky said on X that Ukraine is ready to go full tilt to achieve peace. | ||
| And he supports President Trump's proposal for a trilateral meeting. | ||
| After Friday's summit, both Trump and Putin claim progress. | ||
| That's the fight we have today. | ||
| And this is why we've got to get out of Ukraine with no money and no security guarantees. | ||
| And out of the Middle East, that's their problems. | ||
| Our problems are here at home. | ||
| Yeah, the key development today appears to be the nature of the security guarantees that appear to be the sweetener for any deal for Ukraine here. | ||
| Now, we don't have a full readout of the U.S. position on this, but we've just heard from European leaders a statement with the EU head Ursula von der Leyen and eight other nations referring to the need for concrete security guarantees. | ||
| Something that's been added to by French President Emmanuel Macron just now in a social media post, referring to the U.S. willingness to contribute to those security guarantees. | ||
| We have to keep that in mind. | ||
| No security guarantees and no opening the checkbook for Ukrainian development. | ||
| Let the Europeans, they're wealthy nations, they want to do it, let them do it. | ||
| This is their war. | ||
| They instigated this. | ||
| They're the ones that brought this down on Ukraine and fought to the Atlantic Ukraine. | ||
| Why are we even in this situation today? | ||
| The brave Ukrainians are now 60-year-old people are now allowed to go to the battlefield and they're recruiting them as fast as they can. | ||
| Because Ukrainians are naturally patriotic. | ||
| They've been very courageous. | ||
| As a people, it's been pretty amazing, but it's not about that. | ||
| This war has nothing to do with the vital national security interests of the United States. | ||
| You know what does? | ||
| What's happening in Los Angeles? | ||
| What's happening in Chicago? | ||
| What's happening and going to happen in New York after this election? | ||
| President Trump, what he's doing in Washington, D.C. today, with seizing the institutions and seizing the nation's capital and turning it around from being a crime-ridden, graffiti, marked hellhole. | ||
| Let's just cut to the heart of it. | ||
| We're going to play in the B-block. | ||
| You're going to get all the noise and all the Sturm and drung and all of it. | ||
| Let's just cut to the heart of it. | ||
| You're adults. | ||
| You're the most important political force in the country. | ||
| It was your having the back of President Trump that he led to victory and you helped drive to victory. | ||
| So let's have an adults conversation. | ||
| Let's just cut to the chase. | ||
| In related news, I've got up on Getter also. | ||
| Oh, just a tweet that Klaus Schwab has been found, you know, not responsible for any of the things he did at Davos and stealing all the money, right? | ||
| They exonerated him, the World Economic Forum, but they announced a new co-head, Larry Fink. | ||
| this is Larry Fink that said that the United States, he would put a trillion dollars of capital or back a trillion dollars of American capital going into the reconstruction of the Ukraine. | ||
| You notice he didn't say the reconstruction of Detroit or St. Louis or Camden, New Jersey, right? | ||
| We're either going to be America first or we're not. | ||
| When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor in the memoirs, the seven-volume memoirs of Winston Churchill, he said when he got the call that the Japanese attacked, that I think he cried and said a small prayer, that he knew the Second World War was over because the Americans were now going to join the conflict. | ||
| And I'm not disparaging Winston Churchill on this, but whether it's the regime change in Persia, whether it's the occupation of Gaza, whether it's peace in Ukraine, peace at these terms, every nation on earth is always trying to suck the Americans in. | ||
| They're young men and women now, and their money and resources, and their time, attention, and focus. | ||
| We're either America first or we're nothing. | ||
| Short break. | ||
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| Okay, everything President Trump's trying to do to bring peace to the world, and it means nothing. | ||
| It's like when President Trump, I said the meeting between Rush Shalimba and President Trump after President Trump won the first time, because he and Rush had a, at that time, had a problematic relationship. | ||
| And Rush spent it, they spent about two or three hours with each other. | ||
| President Trump couldn't get enough of it. | ||
| Absolutely loved it. | ||
| At the end, Rush, when I got there to see Rush off, he said the essence in front of me, he said, the essence of what I told President Trump was that no matter what you do, no matter what legislation you pass, no matter what you do, there is nothing you can do, nothing, legislative, law, executive order, that will ever turn them from wanting to destroy you. | ||
| They are out to destroy you. | ||
| That meeting has haunted me, what Rush Limbaugh said to President Trump that day, and it got President Trump's attention. | ||
| And it turned out to be 1,000% true. | ||
| 1 million percent true. | ||
| We had a man-to-head last night. | ||
| Man-to-head goes through. | ||
| She's putting a big article of everything President Trump's done, I think, of stopping seven wars. | ||
| It doesn't matter to these people. | ||
| You see, the coverage yesterday of the mainstream media was the worst I've ever seen on anything related to Trump, even the fake crimes and impeachments, the viciousness. | ||
| They're foaming at the mouth in their hatred of this individual and what he's trying to do. | ||
| So now we're going to play our traditional cold open. | ||
| You're going to have it in all its glory and Jim Rickards on the other side. | ||
| It's treating him in a friendlier tone than he treats most of our allies. | ||
| Yeah, that's what it seemed like. | ||
| I mean, those images of him just standing there waiting and then clapping even before Putin had come up to him and then the hearty handshake. | ||
| I think the world has just seen two Americas right now. | ||
| One America that welcomed a war criminal and another America that has a free press in which journalists stand there and get to ask questions that Putin never hears anywhere else he goes. | ||
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If you had to grade it on a scale of one to ten. | |
| So I think the meeting was a 10 in the sense that we got along great. | ||
| And it's good when two big powers get along, especially when they're nuclear powers. | ||
| You know, we're number one, they're number two in the world. | ||
| And it's a big deal. | ||
| That's a big deal. | ||
| You never want to even mention that word, the word nuclear. | ||
| But we have a tremendous nuclear. | ||
| You know, I rebuilt it when I was president, first term, and I hated to rebuild it. | ||
| It was the one thing I hated to rebuild, but we had to. | ||
| And we have the greatest nuclear force. | ||
| We have the greatest military in the world, actually. | ||
| And they have a big nuclear presence also. | ||
| We had a very good meeting today, but we'll see. | ||
| I mean, you have to get a deal. | ||
| We agreed at a lot of points. | ||
| I want to see people stop dying in Ukraine, and that's what's happening. | ||
| We're losing 5,000, 6,000, 7,000. | ||
| They're Russians, mostly Russians, and they're Ukrainian soldiers. | ||
| There's some people dying in cities and towns where they're trying to blow up missile manufacturers and other things in some cities. | ||
| I don't know if you know what's going on there, but there are a lot of people dying. | ||
| And if we can end that war, it would be very good. | ||
| And I was very happy to hear him say if I was president, that war would have never happened. | ||
| Well, just to be completely transparent with our viewers, we were prepared for the possibility of a minimalist outcome. | ||
| We were also prepared for the possibility of a maximalist outcome. | ||
| We have maps of Russia and Ukraine, such that if we were going to be talking tonight, we'd have Ali Velshi at the big board walking us through which territories were where and why they were of critical need and want to both. | ||
| We had full screens about what membership to NATO means to Ukraine. | ||
| There was so much that could have been discussed tonight, including Donald Trump saying if he is not willing, he being Putin, willing to agree to a ceasefire, then there are going to be consequences. | ||
| We had lists of tariffs and secondary tariffs pulled up, the possibility of sanctions. | ||
| It is not clear that any of that was discussed. | ||
| It is possible we were more prepared for this meeting than he was. | ||
| They have a World War II veteran in attendance. | ||
| They're honored and they're given a flag by some player that isn't playing that night. | ||
| It is who we are. | ||
| World War II is part of the fabric of who we are as a country. | ||
| And today we had an American president standing next to a ruthless dictator who got that American president to refuse to affirm who we are and our commitment to NATO and our commitment to this sort of post-World War II global order. | ||
| We shouldn't, I mean, there's so much in the optics that are so galling that that's where my sort of brain has gone like a cat chasing the laser. | ||
| But if you sit down and let this sink in, and I've been able to do that listening to some of you guys, this was a cataclysmic event in the American experiment. | ||
| The idea that we're an idea, nothing that happened today is consistent with the idea of America. | ||
| And Vladimir said just a little while ago, he said, I've never seen anybody do so much so fast. | ||
| He said, your country is like hot as a pistol. | ||
| And a year ago, he thought it was dead. | ||
| Everybody thought it was dead. | ||
| I want to be optimistic too, but I'm just not sure. | ||
| And I think this goes back to kind of the preparation for this meeting. | ||
| There was reporting first in the European press about Steve Witkoff, the president's envoy, who met with Putin. | ||
| And European leaders are saying that Witkoff understood a critical part of the conversation with Putin. | ||
| Witkoff thought that Putin talked about withdrawing Russian forces from part of eastern Ukraine, two areas, when in fact it looks like Putin was talking about Ukrainian forces withdrawing forces. | ||
| So that is a tremendous misunderstanding that might have raised expectations in Washington that this kind of meeting could have succeeded. | ||
| But, you know, as far as we know at this point, it did not succeed. | ||
| And there's got to be some questions, I think, asked about Witkoff. | ||
| He's been criticized for not bringing his own translator to meetings with Putin. | ||
| That's sort of shocking to most American diplomats. | ||
| And just in general, not being skilled enough or adequately prepared enough for this high-level diplomacy. | ||
| Well, if you're Europe, you're quite worried now because you just saw the President of the United States achieve zero. | ||
| And they will have to ask themselves, what more are they willing to do, knowing that they too could be thrown under the bus if Russia ever moved farther west. | ||
| But as far as objectives, I was hoping to hear that there would be a trilateral meeting. | ||
| That didn't come out of this. | ||
| I was hoping to hear there'd be a ceasefire. | ||
| That didn't come out of this. | ||
| And I was hoping to at least hear about the territory that would be proposed or exchanged by both sides. | ||
| That didn't come out of this. | ||
| Look, Alicia, I don't know if Donald Trump is or is not a Russian asset. | ||
| I do know that at press conferences like this, and like at Helsinki, he certainly acts like one. | ||
| And that is cold comfort for anyone in the United States, particularly in our military, that the commander-in-chief would be so flattering of and so charming to a ruthless dictator like Vladimir Putin. | ||
| There's a lot of points. | ||
| I mean, a lot of points were agreed on. | ||
| There's not that much. | ||
| There's, you know, one or two pretty significant items, but I think they can be reached. | ||
| Now it's really up to President Zelensky to get it done. | ||
| And I would also say the European nations, they have to get involved a little bit, but it's up to President Zelensky. | ||
| I think we are, and if they'd like, I'll be at that next meeting. | ||
| They're going to set up a meeting now between President Zelensky and President Putin and myself, I guess. | ||
| You know, I didn't even, I didn't ask you about it. | ||
| Not that I want to be there, but I want to make sure it gets done. | ||
| And we have a pretty good chance of getting it done. | ||
| We had a very good meeting today, and I think a lot of points were negotiated on behalf of Ukraine and on behalf of the whole NATO situation where we're dealing very well with a lot of foreign countries that are great, European countries. | ||
| So look, as far as I'm concerned, there's no deal until there's a deal, but we did make a lot of progress. | ||
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Naira, what has this summit done to America's place sort of on the global stage? | |
| Well, it's really united NATO in ways that are helpful to NATO and Ukraine. | ||
| As you saw, after Trump decided that he was going to announce a one-on-one meeting saying that, oh, yeah, you would consider doing land swaps and giving away parts of Ukraine. | ||
| You saw the European leaders get on the phone, talk to each other. | ||
| They've really figured out that they also need to work Trump in a way that Putin and others have. | ||
| And Zelensky's gotten better at it too, to the point where day by day, the White House lowered the stakes of what was going to happen at this meeting. | ||
| And ultimately, by the time this meeting happened, it was called a listening session, that that's all this was going to be. | ||
| And again, that's to the credit of the diplomats and European allies realizing what it is they have to deal with with Trump, that they have to be part of Trump's education about Putin, his history, his mindset. | ||
| It's not something that President Trump figured out or learned on his own in the last 10 years or even in the first go-around in the White House. | ||
| Now, with that said, that also means that Europe and other powers have realized that the United States can be played, that they need to play the United States, and that someone else needs to be the global defender of democracy on the world stage. | ||
| Okay, Swalwell, right there. | ||
| Why have we not opened the criminal investigation on him and the Chinese spy that he was sleeping with? | ||
| Why? | ||
| He sits there and calls President Trump, not only does he call President Trump a Russian asset, we're back to that. | ||
| He references Helsinki that we now know from the emails coming out that was a total setup by the intelligence, by the deep state, that President Trump was accurate when he came out on that stage and actually supported what Putin said at the time because his intelligence services of, | ||
| you know, inspired by Brennan and Comey and Clapper and the entire crew, Hayden, were feeding him false information and trying to take down his presidency, trying to have a coup d'état. | ||
| Swalwell references that in calling the president a Russian asset. | ||
| It's time, look, it's only going to stop when you make it stop. | ||
| It's time now to play smash mouth with these people and not do their bidding of what they want. | ||
| Whatever they want, we don't want. | ||
| We want the exact opposite. | ||
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| Jim Rickards from Australia, next in the war room. | ||
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| Okay, Financial Times reporting that in the room, Putin did tell President Trump he's prepared to back off some of the territorial demands. | ||
| Just give me the Donesk, you know, kind of even, I'm not even sure where the battle lines are drawn, maybe even a little bit back. | ||
| So definitely some movement. | ||
| Jim Rickards, so I'm going to go to Australia for Rickards, and we're going to go to Switzerland for Finnell. | ||
| So we're going to cover the globe here in talking about this and the Pacific and the main thing, the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Start with Jim Rickards. | ||
| Jim, give us your assessment. | ||
| You said the other day, don't get your hopes up on this meeting, that you're not going to get a peace deal. | ||
| You may get the process. | ||
| You're not going to get a peace deal. | ||
| Your thoughts, particularly how the Europeans curse Starman, all these guys come out saying Trump's done such a great job, you know, and he's stepping up. | ||
| You know, they're talking about stepping up for these security guarantees, financial guarantees, et cetera. | ||
| The Europeans loving on this, are they not, sir? | ||
| They are. | ||
| And, you know, Steve, I was on the war room with the posse last Tuesday, and I said, there's not going to be a deal. | ||
| That's not what I wanted, but I said, that's what's going to happen. | ||
| And it wasn't a guess. | ||
| I mean, I explain why. | ||
| Putin has had five conditions. | ||
| He had them before the war started in late 2021. | ||
| He said, here's what it will take to prevent the war. | ||
| No one agreed. | ||
| Then the war started. | ||
| He said, here's what it will take to end the war. | ||
| But those conditions have not changed. | ||
| And you have to understand Putin. | ||
| He's very methodical. | ||
| He doesn't say a lot, actually, but when he does, every word is chosen carefully. | ||
| He does not shoot from the hip and he doesn't bluff. | ||
| That's really all you have to know. | ||
| So that notes, when he says something, believe him. | ||
| You don't have to agree, but you better believe what he's saying. | ||
| And he said it all along. | ||
| So I said that on the war room last Tuesday. | ||
| Then the rest of the week, I was keeping up with the news. | ||
| I couldn't believe what I was hearing. | ||
| All this sanctions and ultimatum and putting more troops, more money into it, and all the bad things were going to happen if Putin didn't agree, as if somehow Trump could just walk into the room, dictate to Putin and sign the deal, and that was going to be it. | ||
| So it was very delusional. | ||
| I have to admit, I don't watch MSNBC unless I see a clip on a show like yours on the war room. | ||
| And I'm just shaking my head. | ||
| I mean, I've had these massive on-air live-air knockdowns with Stephanie Rule and the rest of them. | ||
| But I just, you know, again, I had to use cliches, but what planet are they living on? | ||
| So what are Putin's terms? | ||
| He wants neutrality for Ukraine. | ||
| Not unprecedented, by the way. | ||
| Austria was neutral during most of the Cold War. | ||
| Not today. | ||
| They're pro-West, but they were neutral. | ||
| So neutrality for Ukraine, no NATO, obviously, demilitarization. | ||
| They might have a paramilitary force, kind of like the Federal Armies or something, but no military. | ||
| And then Putin, and then Russia was going to get the land. | ||
| They were going to get Dones, Luhansk, Zapazaria, Kershaw, and of course, they already have Crimea. | ||
| And that was it. | ||
| And unless you're prepared to do, and you could have that deal in five minutes with a phone call with Trump, Trump's not quite there yet. | ||
| So it was easy to see that there wasn't going to be a deal. | ||
| Now, what did happen in the summit? | ||
| What happened in the room? | ||
| And I wasn't an accurate, just to be clear, but it's not easy to gather, not difficult to gather the information. | ||
| The biggest benefit, the best thing that came out of this summit was that Trump got to listen to Putin unfiltered, one-on-one, in the back of the car, in the room, et cetera. | ||
| There were maybe two other people in the room, but that was it. | ||
| You didn't have Marco Rubio funding for the Europeans. | ||
| You didn't have General Kellogg funding for the Ukrainians. | ||
| You didn't have Lindsey Graham and Tom Cotton talking about bone-crushing sanctions. | ||
| You know, that's their favorite word. | ||
| You didn't have all those filters around them. | ||
| You just said Trump and Putin. | ||
| And Trump is obviously smart enough to, more than smart enough, to listen to Putin and take him at his word. | ||
| Now, Trump walks out and says, okay, we're not going to have that deal. | ||
| Well, we're going to start a peace process. | ||
| That's what Putin has said all along. | ||
| He doesn't want this to be just about Ukraine. | ||
| He wants this to be about the European security situation, basically, as you put it, getting World War II behind us and going on going on in the future. | ||
| He wants a much bigger platform. | ||
| By the way, one, not to nitpick, but in Trump's interview with Hannity, he said, you know, it's serious when two nuclear powers come together. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| He said, we're number one. | ||
| Russia's number two. | ||
| That's not correct. | ||
| Russia's number one. | ||
| We're number two. | ||
| They have 8,000 nuclear warheads. | ||
| So Trump had the right instinct that this could not have been more serious. | ||
| But Russia actually has a larger nuclear arsenal than we do. | ||
| So Trump had wins and losses. | ||
| His losses were he looks bad on the ultimatum. | ||
| He laid down an ultimatum. | ||
| Nothing came of it. | ||
| He looks bad on secondary sanctions. | ||
| He threatened them. | ||
| And, you know, again, nothing came of it. | ||
| India got slapped a little bit, but India doesn't care. | ||
| And then the third thing he said, there'll be terrible consequences if Putin doesn't agree, and there are no consequences. | ||
| They're going to have continuing dialogue. | ||
| By the way, it's good. | ||
| that Trump failed on those three things. | ||
| They were all bad ideas, and I said so at the time. | ||
| So that's good. | ||
| So now we're moving on to what Putin has always wanted, which will give us peace in Ukraine, which is a much broader settlement along those lines. | ||
| As far as the Europeans are concerned, Steve, you brought them up. | ||
| They're vassals. | ||
| I mean, there's no better way, no other way, really, to understand the European world. | ||
| They're vassals of the United States. | ||
| It's unusual for vassals to talk back to their master, but, you know, whatever, you got to tolerate it. | ||
| They don't have any military. | ||
| Russia has 20 divisions in Ukraine and 20 more ready to go, you know, back in Russia ready to move in. | ||
| Europe couldn't put together three divisions if they tried. | ||
| I mean, that would be probably two from the UK and maybe one from Germany and France. | ||
| They'd have to scrape together some French Armed Legion. | ||
| They don't have any troops. | ||
| They don't have any weapons. | ||
| They don't have any money. | ||
| Other than that, it's all good. | ||
| So Europe is, but in a way, and this is strange, Europe comes out of this as a winner. | ||
| And here's why. | ||
| They want the war to continue. | ||
| Well, the war is going to continue because Trump didn't apparently get the message of what Putin really wanted early enough. | ||
| And they've done everything possible. | ||
| They did everything possible to blow up this summit. | ||
| And to that extent, they succeeded. | ||
| Now, you're going to have more dead Ukrainians on their hands, put blood on their hands, but they don't really seem to care. | ||
| So the war is going to continue. | ||
| And again, why should you ask last week, you said, well, why haven't the Russians? | ||
| I hear all that, but that's the process. | ||
| These things all have a process, right? | ||
| It's all process. | ||
| And I get that. | ||
| But this gets down to two fundamental issues, that the Europeans are too broke and not prepared to commit, that the reconstruction of Ukraine, the financial reconstruction of Ukraine, now you got Larry Fink over there as head of the party of Davos, that the reconstruction of Ukraine, which they've already said is going to take a trillion dollars or more. | ||
| The United States has got to be a big part of that. | ||
| And more importantly, they want an equivalent of an Article 5 security guarantee. | ||
| That means, and the Ukrainians, here's the thing. | ||
| There's enough people in Ukraine. | ||
| One thing that's been constant in this war is the courage, valor, urgency, ingenuity of the Ukrainian military. | ||
| They had a drone strike. | ||
| Like I said, Curtis LeMay as head of the Strategic Air Command could never even think about. | ||
| And giving a security guarantee, the Ukrainians are kind of like the Irish. | ||
| You're going to have a third of them and say, no, we didn't want to stop this war. | ||
| They're always going to be pushing the envelope. | ||
| Just don't think it's going to be peace in the valley that you're just going to sit there and say, okay, we have this deal. | ||
| And Putin's got the Russian-speaking, you know, even Donesk. | ||
| If he doesn't hit Khrushchev and these others, right? | ||
| He just takes what he's already got. | ||
| There's going to be a lot of people over there to say, hey, we got sold out by the Americans. | ||
| We got to get these brothers, right? | ||
| So a security guarantee is this is going to be an occupied territory like the West Bank. | ||
| And they're going to have an Article 5 with America being the big guarantor, like America is the guarantor of NATO. | ||
| This is a no-win situation for the Americans. | ||
| They've laid it out. | ||
| This requires, and my point is like, hey, Zelensky's coming over. | ||
| You said it. | ||
| The vassal states act like the masters. | ||
| You got Zelensky. | ||
| The Mediites lead headline this morning was Zelensky gives Trump a list of demands as he comes over to have a meeting in the Oval Office. | ||
| I thought we ran this TWRP out of here six months ago, right? | ||
| When he had demands at that time. | ||
| Now he's coming over with another list of demands. | ||
| It's going to be endless. | ||
| And as long as Uncle Sugar is there to back him up financially and to back them up militarily, then the objectives of how they got the world into this mess and they should stay on trial for this as criminals, how they got the world into this mess and let a million Ukrainians dead or wounded and a million Russians dead or wounded. | ||
| They're going to be the beneficiaries, Jim Rickards. | ||
| Is there anything there I'm not seeing in the clarity of where we are? | ||
| No, you're exactly right. | ||
| And it goes back even much further than you described. | ||
| From the beginning, all Zelensky has wanted, and very much Emmanuel Macron and the German chancellor has also a couple of them. | ||
| They want American boots on the ground. | ||
| They'll start with two boots, and it'll be 200,000, and it'll be a half a million or more. | ||
| And by the way, that's why I keep bringing up Vietnam. | ||
| It's not all news. | ||
| This is a replay of what happened to LBJ in Vietnam. | ||
| But they want American boots on the ground and they want Article 5. | ||
| Americans really have to understand what Article 5 says. | ||
| It says an attack on one is an attack on all. | ||
| So if Ukraine has Article 5 guarantees, even if they don't join NATO, if they have a treaty that gives them the security guarantee, the equivalent of Article 5 protection, and you put American boots on the ground and one Russian kills one American, which will happen. | ||
| I guarantee that will happen. | ||
| Then all of a sudden, the U.S. and Russia are at war. | ||
| It is World War III. | ||
| We are talking about nuclear arsenals. | ||
| And Zelensky doesn't seem to care. | ||
| It's incomprehensible to me. | ||
| I mean, I know what it is. | ||
| I can't imagine why anyone thinks that's a good idea. | ||
| The best thing for the U.S. is just to get out. | ||
| And by the way, Steve, you know, last Tuesday, we told the audience what was going to happen in Alaska and it played out. | ||
| Let me tell you what's going to happen next. | ||
| Can we? | ||
| Sorry, guys. | ||
| By the way, just to make sure people understand, the attack against Russia's strategic assets all came in a Wiesbaden with British, you know, MI6, the CIA, DIA, German intelligence, all of them kind of running the operation. | ||
| The Ukrainians are there. | ||
| And when you look at those villages, people should sit there and look at the carnage that's happened. | ||
| This is World War level, World War I, Western Front-level carnage, like in Belgium in the Low Countries. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This is Western Front with not a tree standing, houses destroyed. | ||
| Every one of those houses has dead Ukrainian children, dead Ukrainian women, these guys' brothers, their sisters. | ||
| The Ukrainians are like the Irish. | ||
| They're hotheads. | ||
| A lot of hotheads. | ||
| They're going to sit there and go, hey, these guys killed it. | ||
| I want vengeance. | ||
| A security guarantee is going to be every day. | ||
| It's going to be like the West Bank or like you had the troubles in Northern Ireland. | ||
| You got two groups that don't like each other, that have centuries of hate and animosity, and now you've got blood all over the place. | ||
| They're not just going to sit there and go, oh, this is a new day dawning. | ||
| Let's give a group hug. | ||
| It ain't going to be a group hug, okay? | ||
| Particularly when the territories, the Russian army is not going to give up the territory they're sitting on. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And people are going to say, hey, that's our territory. | ||
| A security guarantee is just not something theoretical. | ||
| It's practical. | ||
| Rickards, the question for you. | ||
| Can we get an overall Russian rapprochement, right, and some overarching deal with the Russians if we don't somehow insert ourselves in the Ukraine? | ||
| Or can the Russians just keep pounding Ukraine and somehow the Americans work out a deal with the Russians and say, hey, that's a European problem? | ||
| Is that practical or is that not practical in the unfortunate real world we deal in, sir? | ||
| I don't see how this comes to an end without involvement by the U.S. I don't necessarily mean, I don't mean boots on the ground. | ||
| I don't mean that at all. | ||
| We're already supplying them with weapons and the Brits and Germans and the intelligence, satellite surveillance, all that stuff. | ||
| And by the way, Steve, I don't denigrate the heroism and role of the Ukrainian troops, but these drone strikes on Moscow, which we referred to, they're all coming from U.S. and basically U.S. technology with help from the U.K. and the Germans. | ||
| So it's really us operating through a proxy. | ||
| The Ukrainians really can't do that, can't do that on their own. | ||
| But the U.S. is going to have to be involved in the settlement. | ||
| Basically, you got to agree to Putin's terms. | ||
| I laid out what they were. | ||
| There's no reason Putin should reduce those terms because he's winning. | ||
| When you win, you get to keep stuff. | ||
| I've said that before. | ||
| How did Israel get the West Bank and the Golan Heights and parts of Syria and East Jerusalem? | ||
| Well, they kept winning wars and they got to keep it. | ||
| And the same thing with Russia in eastern Ukraine. | ||
| But you can end the war on Putin's and Putin's terms because he won. | ||
| Now, the key to that is getting rid of Zelensky. | ||
| And that's what's going to happen next. | ||
| Zelensky's standing the way. | ||
| He's not just a warmonger. | ||
| He's very much a pawn of the Banderas Bandaristas, the political and intellectual descendants of Stefan Bandero, who was a pro-Nazi sympathizer. | ||
| And Ukraine was very active supporting the Wehrmacht in the Holocaust. | ||
| And they were those, you know, in the U.S., we throw the word Nazi around. | ||
| I don't, but a lot of people do loosely. | ||
| Well, if you want to find real Nazis, go to Ukraine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hang on one second. | ||
| It's the middle of the night where our brother Jim Rickards is. | ||
| I'm going to ask you to hold on. | ||
| We're going to take a short break. | ||
| We've got Captain Finnell where it's late afternoon. | ||
| We're going to get it all done today in the war room. | ||
| Short break. | ||
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| Let's take down the CCP war room. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Man. | ||
| Okay, they're trying to put the entire burden on this on President Trump. | ||
| There's a big story on Getter, I think on the daily news over the daily news, a brief that Guetter does about Russia already stirring it up with the BRICS nations, of which they're one of the most important, about de-dollarization. | ||
| That's a trigger word. | ||
| You want to trigger President Trump and getting roaring mad, talk about de-dollarization. | ||
| This is one of the reasons he's so focused on Lula and this collection of folks in Brazil, by the way. | ||
| Bolsonaro, Eduardo, great photo. | ||
| Don't know if I put it up yet from the Treasury Department with our own Secretary, Scott Besson, the other day. | ||
| Just absolutely incredible. | ||
| Shook their world down at Brazil. | ||
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| Captain Jim Finnell joins us. | ||
| Captain Finnell, and I want to set aside the natural bias you and I have as Pacific Fleet sailors, but look over strategically. | ||
| You're the best I know at keeping the main thing, the main thing, that our Twilight struggle with the Chinese Communist Party as the existential threat to not just citizens of China, but to the citizens of the world, particularly the United States of America. | ||
| And what you've seen in the last week or so, and particularly yesterday, and what's forecast for happening on Monday and going forward, where do we stand, sir? | ||
| Well, Steve, first of all, I don't think we have to apologize for being sailors in a maritime theater, but that's another story. | ||
| The most important thing is what we saw yesterday. | ||
| I woke at 2:30 in the morning here. | ||
| I watched the arrivals of both presidents. | ||
| Then I watched the statements that were made in that 12-minute conference or press statement. | ||
| And I thought, okay, this is step forward. | ||
| Then I started turning on the social media and the newspapers. | ||
| And all of a sudden, it's all the only word I saw was failure, failure, failure. | ||
| And I'm thinking to myself, well, what do you want? | ||
| You want more death? | ||
| You've already had a million people killed. | ||
| These are the same people for 35 years that told us we must unabashedly engage with the Chinese Communist Party and give them access to the World Trade Organization, give them access to our markets and sell our people out for them and then allow fentanyl to come in and kill hundreds of thousands. | ||
| So I don't understand. | ||
| I do understand because these people are hypocrites and they're pushing, everything they're pushing is based on their hatred of one man and their love of the deep state and the federal bureaucracy over the Constitution. | ||
| But what this means in terms of relationship between the United States and Russia and Russia and China and China and the United States is very important. | ||
| For instance, in this last few months, as you've talked about on the show, the United States sends two aircraft carrier strike groups into the Middle East to help the Europeans have their waterway, their key choke point, the Red Sea and the Suez Canal, stay open because of Houthi rebel attacks. | ||
| While at the same time, NATO nations, the UK, France, and Italy, sent aircraft carriers from Europe into the Pacific. | ||
| What is that about? | ||
| It's just more of the same for the last 40 years of not really taking responsibility for what's the most important thing in the area where you live. | ||
| So instead of sending those European aircraft carriers out to the Pacific, why weren't they staying and assisting us and relieving some of our burden to attack the Houthis and open up that critical waterway for them while our carriers could be out here in the Pacific helping to deter the aggression that we're seeing from the Chinese like we saw this week. | ||
| And so I think we're at a point right now where, you know, President Trump is doing what's required to end this war, to stop the bleeding, but more importantly, to get America to be able to shift our attention as our whole of government off of only Europe and get it into focusing on the main thing, which is what the Chinese are doing and the knife that they have to our juggler vein that they've built over the last 35 years. | ||
| And it's incredibly important to do that. | ||
| And for those who would say, well, this guy doesn't really know anything about Russians and all that, well, I will just say, when I was lieutenant, I tracked Soviet ballistic missile submarines. | ||
| And 10 years ago, when I was the chief of intelligence for the U.S. Pacific Fleet, I tracked Russian long-range bombers that flew 50 miles off the coast of San Francisco when Barack Hussein Obama was president. | ||
| We didn't do anything about it. | ||
| So I won't take any of that. | ||
| We shouldn't take any of those kind of accusations from the likes of Nicole Wallace and these other charlatans. | ||
| We know what's important. | ||
| We know that the relationship with Russia is very significant. | ||
| We know, as Jim Ricker just said, they got more nuclear bombs than we do. | ||
| So it's a very important situation. | ||
| But we got to get our act together about dealing with the People's Republic of China. | ||
| And we have not done that for 35 years. | ||
| And it's time that we have our whole of government doing that. | ||
| And President Trump is turning the ship, the state, towards that. | ||
| And he's taken arrows for doing what is the right thing for our national security. | ||
| Okay, here's what we're going to do. | ||
| We're going to keep, we've got Captain Finnell. | ||
| We've got Jim Rickards in the middle of the night. | ||
| We're going to see how long Jim Rickerts can hang with us. | ||
| We're going to add Jack Pasovic, who was on Air Force One. | ||
| I don't think they got back. | ||
| I don't think they landed at 2.45 or 3 o'clock in the morning Eastern Time back at Andrews. | ||
| But Jack is up. | ||
| He'll join us in the second hour. | ||
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