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Aug. 12, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4699: Mainstream Agrees With Trump Securing DC; Abbott's Weakness In Texas
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bo french
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brian harrison
05:20
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jim rickards
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steve bannon
16:02
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corey brettschneider
01:12
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ed luce
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eugene robinson
02:31
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greg abbot
01:12
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joseph lavorgna
02:22
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lisa rubin
02:04
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symone sanders-townsend
01:32
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tyler pager
01:19
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jonathan karl
00:24
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kate bolduan
00:43
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laura ingraham
00:21
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symone sanders-townsend
Mirror what is in the law, the DC Home Rule Act, and it does not mirror what's in his own executive order.
He is trying to take the rhetoric further.
He's trying to bully the District of Columbia and their police department into submitting to him.
Because if he can do it on this, just like on immigration, right?
If he can do it on this, he can replicate this in many other cities.
What do you think, Lisa Brupan?
lisa rubin
I think this is a particularly pernicious situation in a couple of ways.
Let's start with the fact that, as you noted, this is a president who's governing almost by anecdote rather than by empirical data, right?
We know that he's not just using juvenile crime as a pretext.
He's using a particular incident of juvenile crime involving a former Doge staffer who was involved in a carjacking in a particularly violent way.
But that seems to be what has led the president into this moment, a single incident of juvenile crime rather than a pattern of it, because as we know, as Congresswoman Eleanor Holmes Norton, a 34-year veteran of Congress, said today, crime is at an all-time low in D.C. or at least a 30-year low.
That can't be refuted by this White House.
Instead, what they want to say is, DC has one of the highest crime rates in the country.
Well, that is perhaps true.
There are 50 states plus the District of Columbia.
Somebody's going to be at the top of the list.
kate bolduan
President Trump has nominated E.J. Antoni to be the new commissioner for the agency, which is in charge of reporting out all sorts of important government data from jobs numbers to inflation numbers.
The president made waves a couple weeks ago when he suddenly fired the previous boss there after a dismal July jobs report.
Trump accused her of rigging the data without any evidence to back that up, but in firing her, raising new doubt and concern about how the administration will handle future releases of economic data.
The July CPI report will be released this morning.
And Tony currently works at the conservative think tank, the Heritage Foundation, is a frequent critic of the workforce that he may soon lead.
His nomination needs to now be confirmed by the Senate.
lisa rubin
D.C. is now in the bottom.
symone sanders-townsend
DC is not even in the top 10.
He is just lying.
D.C. is, it is, it's animating because he'll just say these things, right?
And if you say it enough times, it becomes truth to some people.
And what he is doing is not going to fix the issue of juvenile crime.
The issue will be fixed by policy.
lisa rubin
No, it's not going to fix juvenile crime.
And he's sort of having this bifurcated strategy here that is legally novel in two ways, right?
One is to ignore DC home rule and to federalize the MPD, the Metropolitan Police Department.
The second is using the National Guard and then farming them out to D.C. where they are not wanted or needed right now, sort of on a rotating basis, 100 to 200 at a time.
But in both cases, he's relying on statutory contacts that haven't been used and other situations in the same way that he has sort of relied on arcane statutes and other places that we can think of, the Alien Enemies Act, or, for example, in Los Angeles, where he used National Guard subject to a different statutory authority.
It's like somebody made a book for him of all these little used statutes and said, Mr. President, these are the elastic laws.
Stretch them as you will and as you see fit, because there isn't case law in many of these circumstances to constrain you.
So let's see how far we can stretch this republic before it breaks.
ed luce
It's embarrassing, to be frank.
I mean, Witkoff, after his first meeting with Putin in March, then went on Tucker Carlson's show, and he couldn't name, he could only name one of the five oblasts, provinces that Putin wants.
He could name Crimea, the other four, Donetsk, Luhant, Kirsten, and Zaporizhia, he got wrong.
That's his brief.
That's his job.
And he's still, five months, four months later, in early August, having seen Putin again last week, he's still unable to figure out which bits of the map Putin was suggesting Ukraine withdraw from and which bits of those disputed oblasts they freeze the conflict.
I don't think even with a negotiator who is really clued up and who has the history of Yalta and Munich and all the other sort of shoddy grand bargains of the 20th century in his head, I don't think they're going to be able to persuade Putin to with anything other than land in the negotiating chamber that he failed to win by force of arms.
That's what Putin is about here.
unidentified
Though it may be Project 2025 and the Orban playbook, because you put them all together and you have a perfect map for what we're watching right now.
corey brettschneider
Absolutely.
And I would say I've been talking on the show often about the idea of a self-coup that he's trying to usurp the power of Congress, that he's trying to usurp the judiciary.
But now we're seeing the trappings of a more traditional coup because the military is coming out.
And that is something that we associate not with what sometimes political scientists call soft coups, but hard coups.
And he's facing pushback in California.
There, the governor, rightly and heroically, is saying the federal government is limited in its power.
There's no statutory authority, as you just heard, to bring out the military to shut down free speech or to even act as a police force.
That the tradition of our country has a 10th Amendment, which has local control over the police.
And there's a long tradition that Newsom is acting in of citizens fighting back using the state.
So when John Adams shut down free speech using the Sedition Act, Jefferson and Madison used the power of Virginia and Kentucky and the resolutions to say, no, we're not going to cooperate with the federal government.
Here's the problem: that Washington, D.C., he knows he has more control and he's facing less pushback from the mayor there.
There isn't a state.
And it starts to raise the question, don't we need statehood for Washington, D.C.?
Of course we do.
eugene robinson
We need to have that democratic representation because what we have to do is make sure that this pattern of this not just a soft coup but now increasingly hard coup that it's it's stopped and the states are our best option no comparison between the Washington DC of today and the Washington DC that I came to in the year 1980 that Washington D.C. was a genuinely dangerous place it was a place where you not
only felt that you were in peril in some neighborhoods, but in fact you were in peril in some neighborhoods.
And all the overlapping pathologies, the sort of open-air drug markets that were everywhere.
I think the police department was probably larger at that time, but there were these overlapping pathologies that made Washington a pretty rough place, comparable to a lot of cities.
I mean, I had also lived around Detroit, you know, and that was no picnic.
Now, today, again, it's not like Manhattan, where there are people walking any time of the day or night.
Manhattan, four in the morning.
There's people out.
You kind of feel that protection that comes from a crowd.
In Washington, D.C., that's not the case.
Downtowns have been hollowed out across the nation.
That has kind of happened here as well.
And there's one word that David Drucker used, which we should come back to maybe in a later segment, which was truancy.
There's a huge truancy problem in the D.C. schools, especially the high schools.
And that's where a lot of those kids are coming from, who, again, gather in numbers and create public disruptions and some measure of danger occasionally that people are reacting to.
So there are lots of deeper things that need to be worked with, worked on.
unidentified
Yeah.
eugene robinson
But is it a bad thing if there's more of a police presence?
I don't think that's a bad thing necessarily.
And we'll see.
You know, I hope it works out well.
jonathan karl
This one, he's making more radical changes to the country and to the White House that will live well beyond his presidency.
unidentified
Right.
tyler pager
And I think part of it is because he now knows how government works.
I think one of the things that really is the key difference between the first term and the second term is that he had a whole host of characters in the government that were trying to stymie his efforts to radically change the country.
He's now surrounded by people that are fully supportive of his agenda and helping him do it.
He is way more effective at accomplishing his agenda with having that time out of office because the.
those a lot of his aides russ vote those sorts of officials spent their time out of government planning for this term.
And so, what they've done is an onslaught of executive orders in the first six months that accomplished a lot of their goals very quickly because he knew what they wanted to do.
laura ingraham
Does that mean that you foresee U.S. troops in Mexico in some way, shape, or form?
Or are you thinking drone attacks, air attacks?
What do you think?
unidentified
I can't reveal anything, but I'm not tipping my hand that there will be U.S. troops in Mexico.
laura ingraham
That's not what I'm saying.
But are you worried that now the cartels are just moving everything around, that they know that there's a target on their back?
They're just like hiding everything, however, they do that.
jonathan karl
We're watching.
unidentified
We probably, we know a little bit more than they think we might know about them.
jonathan karl
We've spent a lot of attention watching them.
laura ingraham
We're focused on this.
jonathan karl
It's a presidential priority.
laura ingraham
It's our priority.
unidentified
We're working with federal partners to identify that all across the Western Hemisphere.
jonathan karl
This is something we're not taking lying down anymore.
unidentified
If you're trafficking in drugs, you're trafficking in people, you're trafficking in violence that affect the American people, that's unacceptable.
jonathan karl
And the Defense Department's going to be a part of solving that.
symone sanders-townsend
I mean, should we not talk about the Democrats and when?
And I think that what Trump 2.0 is teaching us a lot.
One of the lessons I feel like from Trump 2.0 is that all of these excuses the Democrats had when they had control, total control of government, when they were in charge about the filibuster and like, oh, I need to get the public support.
No, I can't do this.
And, oh, I don't have the votes.
And oh, Joe Manchin.
Perhaps, had Democrats just at least given D.C. the ability to control the National Guard, there was a bill that could have done that that Joe Manchin and Kristen Sinema didn't help vote for.
Perhaps they could have given D.C. statehood.
Does this example not teach that if there is another opportunity, because I'm saying if, there's not a guarantee that Donald Trump is going to leave, and I'm just going off what happened last time.
If there is another opportunity of a Democratic president, let alone a Democratic Houseman Senate, perhaps Democrats need to think more expansively.
steve bannon
Okay, Tuesday, 12 August, year of our Lord 2025.
The cold open was so great, and my producers and the team at Denver did such a great job.
We don't have time even for the long open.
So I'll just jump right in here.
Of course, I hope that you see the pattern recognition here: President Trump doing big things, doing them rapidly, taking control, seizing control of the Imperial Capitol, because it's out of control with what did Eugene Robinson, who supports President Trump's move, shockingly enough.
He called it overlapping pathologies.
Of course, many of the big cities in the United States have the same overlapping pathologies, Los Angeles, Chicago, and, of course, New York City.
And I think you're seeing a template right now of things to come.
And you've got Pete Hegseth right there talking about taking the war to the cartels in northern Mexico.
Can we put up the Drudge?
Do we have the Drudge MacDaddy?
Drudge MacDaddy today kind of lays it all out.
They've got a special reaction force.
They're working at the Pentagon to be able to surge in in case any of these cities get out of control.
And of course, the central part of all this is the mass deportations.
I think that'll be top priority.
In addition to crime and making sure we have law and order to start the mass deportations out of the nation's capital and then maybe to Los Angeles, Chicago, and of course, New York City.
Shocking news today.
Let's bring in Joe Lavornier from Treasury.
Joe, shocking news.
Wall Street's in shock.
The globalists are in shock.
Inflation looks like, meh, no big deal right now, sir.
We just froze.
Okay, on Joe.
Okay.
Can we try to get Joe up over Treasury?
We got Joe Levronier.
There was an inflation report, CPI, today, and Wall Street is kind of in shock.
Wall Street's in shock by the fact that it wasn't on fire because of tariffs.
We told you this is all about bringing manufacturing jobs back, or if people don't want to bring manufacturing jobs to the United States of America, you're going to have to pay a toll to get through the Golden Door.
Wall Street had been predicting, and of course, the haters and the globalists have been predicting there was going to be inflation out of control.
It didn't happen today.
Of course, in addition, E.J. Antoni, Dr. E.J. Antoni, chief economist over at Heritage, named yesterday afternoon to head up a Bureau of Labor Statistics, something he has come on the show for the last four years and talked about what the issues of what the problems are.
Well, now, Dr. E.J. Antoni, as soon as he gets Senate confirmed, and by the way, we should do that in a recess appointment, all of them in a recess appointment.
It's unacceptable it's not happening.
President Trump is strapped for personnel.
You saw yesterday, he had his team up there in the press briefing to say we're going to bring good order and discipline into Washington, D.C., a capital out of control.
And President Trump said, hey, I'm going to go see Putin this week, and it's kind of embarrassing that we have a capital city that is out of control, but I'm going to take care of it.
What is going on in Texas?
I hope you see the plan coming together right now to strip the Democrats of any power.
Why?
Because the only way they have power is either stealing elections, number one, and or having false counts with illegal aliens to give them actually more representation.
All of that's going by the wayside.
The tip of the spear is Texas, but it's spreading throughout the country.
Just like the template of good order and discipline in Washington, D.C. is going to spread throughout the country also as we take down the cartels in North America, in northern Mexico.
That is called America first national security.
Short commercial break.
Back in the worm in a moment.
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steve bannon
Okay, right there, the Drudge MacDaddy.
Also at the bottom, you can see the new beginning of this reaction force to make sure we don't have disturbances in major cities.
And I also think in these neo-Confederate cities where our sanctuary cities is to assist in the mass deportations of illegal alien invaders.
You've got the census that the Commerce Department is working on that's going to make sure we don't count illegal alien invaders into any of our elections.
Also, you've got now good order and discipline.
The city's going to spend a lot more time on that.
Also, Russia going to Texas.
I want to start.
Do I have Joe?
Joe Lavernier, we finally figured out the technology.
Wall Street was all set, and particularly the globalists were all set to dance on our graves this morning, sir, about tariffs and about President Trump's trade deals via inflation.
It didn't quite work out like that, did it, Joe?
joseph lavorgna
No, Steve.
Actually, I want to preface my remarks or the inflation discussion with the fact that the small business survey had a huge increase with a re-acceleration of optimism and expected economic growth, which is the result of the one big beautiful bill being passed and much of the tariff uncertainty as the president said would happen and which Secretary Besson echoed as that got cleared up.
So the small business outlook is great.
Companies are not raising prices.
And then lo and behold, the CPI data we had for July shows virtually, if any, tariff effect whatsoever.
I mean, it's truly remarkable President Trump's right again.
steve bannon
Joe, is this unlocking the animal spirits?
joseph lavorgna
Yes, Steve, it is.
I mean, we saw the big CapEx come back in the first half of the year because the bill was written such that the spending would be retroactive to the inauguration day.
So you saw the big increase in CapEx.
Now that the bill is law, that acceleration in CapEx will lead to a big pickup in hiring.
The great news with today's CPI data and last week's employment report, which did show very strong wages, is that real wages now are running up around 1.4, 1.5 year on year.
The year-to-date increase is the second fastest to start a new administration on record, eclipsed only by Trump 1.0 and barely so.
So yes, the animal spirits are alive and well, thanks to President Trump's policies.
steve bannon
Now, what about the tariffs, all that?
Wall Street was all anticipating that, hey, because of its tariffs, inflation's out of control.
That did not happen, correct?
joseph lavorgna
No, it didn't happen, Stephen.
You know, you talk about animal spirits.
You're seeing that in the equity market.
The stock market has had a historic recovery off those April lows.
And of course, the stock market can move around a lot, but the clear direction is higher.
And it's because the market, which is forward-looking, which anticipates the future, is expecting a big recovery in GDP, strong non-inflationary growth like what we had during President Trump's first term.
I mean, all the ingredients are there for a boom.
And the investor base is smart.
They want to make money and they know where the direction of things is headed.
And Treston Trump has initiated this background for growth to accelerate.
And the great part is Wall Street will do well, but Main Street, as Secretary Besson has highlighted many times, will perhaps and hopefully do even better because it's their turn.
steve bannon
Joe, where do people find you on social media?
Because I know you're putting up on Twitter analysis all day long.
Where do folks go?
joseph lavorgna
Yes, thank you, Steve.
They can find me at LaVorne Unomics.
steve bannon
Joe, thank you so much for calling in this morning to give us an update.
Great Tuesday.
Taking action, taking control, not playing around.
You saw the Jonathan Carl may play that.
I may play that speech a little bit later, not speech, but a little segment, where they're sitting around thinking great thoughts.
And what do they come up?
What's the conclusion they come up with?
President Trump was very focused because the four years in the wilderness, his team had a chance to get policy together.
And now he fully understands the levers of government.
And also those people that are trying to thwart him, like the U.S. Senate, not giving him recess appointments, which is what we need immediately.
Or let's get rescissions, pocket rescissions, impoundment of money to make sure that we don't run up these deficits.
Right now, the economy is on a roll.
Let's not have this mass spending get in the way of it.
Also, let's get a real census of citizens of the United States of America, where they live, how they live, where the congressional districts ought to be.
Let's go to Brian Harrison.
Do we have Brian?
Brian down in Texas.
Brian Harrison.
Harrison, here's one thing I've noticed.
Greg Abbott is now getting more TV time.
His comms team must have gotten quite upset with you.
They've got him booked everywhere.
This guy's everywhere, but he never says anything.
Abbott is the biggest pie I think I've ever met.
He's just a complete wimp.
He comes up there with all this big talk, but no action.
But one thing his comms team is doing is making sure that he gets more air time than our own Brian Harrison.
Can you give us an update today on the lack of action by the Texas Republican establishment, sir?
brian harrison
Yeah, I definitely can neither confirm nor deny, or certainly should say whether I was or wasn't told by a senior member of the governor's team that his comms staff were screamed at because yours truly was on TV exposing the truth to America more than more than the governor.
And I guess they've decided that they couldn't let that stand.
So look, here's the reality, okay?
We're going to cut through the BS and cut through the spin.
Democrats have been gone for eight days officially, 12 days really, because our Rhino speaker released them last Wednesday.
And let's count through the different punishments that have been meted out.
Okay, to get even, to show the Democrats we are going to take tough action to punish them.
They took away their newsletters.
And they'll get paid in full when they get back, but it's going to be a paper check, not direct deposit.
And yeah, that's about it.
So bottom line, no punishments, but enough hot air to fuel a fleet of blimps coming out of the elected Republican leadership in the state of Texas.
It's embarrassing.
Okay, the state that re-elected President Trump with 14 points because they wanted bold Republican leadership, they're sick and tired of the false promises, the hot air, the empty words, the veiled threats, and most importantly, the inaction.
Texans are a bold, strong people, and they want bold, strong action coming out of their government.
The latest stunt, I mean, we're not even being treated to good kabuki theater.
At least pretend, okay?
Play the part.
They're not.
Yesterday, the latest stunt was they basically threw law enforcement under the bus.
Because remember, it was a week ago last Monday that we were told these Democrats are going to be vacated.
They're going to be kicked out of the legislature and we're going to sign arrest warrants.
Again, this was eight days ago.
Zero arrests.
Zero seats have been vacated.
But what they do yesterday, our rhino leadership down here, they threw law enforcement under the bus and announced a tip line.
Sort of like, if you see something, say something, implying that the DPS troopers are unable to find 51 human beings who, best I can tell, are live streaming their location on TikTok and Facebook every waking minute.
Let me break something, Steve, here.
I actually have not said this publicly before.
I'm going to break something to you right now.
I cannot confirm this with metaphysical certitude here, but I have this from so many sources now that what's really going on and why they're throwing law enforcement under the bus is because the leadership in Texas, including law enforcement, knows where multiple of these Democrat members are, including Democrat members that are holed up in Texas where we have clear jurisdiction to arrest them, but that they have made the decision not to arrest them because of factors like their gender and their race.
And that damn well better not be true.
And we need to get to the bottom of this, but that is what I'm hearing from multiple sources now is that they have decided intentionally not to arrest these Democrats and just hope they show up for the second special session.
But that's the latest from here.
Just a bunch of empty words, hot air, bad theater, no action, no results, and Texans deserve better.
steve bannon
And even with calls, and we're going to do it again today, no action in the Senate.
The Senate could actually pass this immediately within this session and not have to wait to the next special session, correct, sir?
brian harrison
That's right.
No, we're like five, six days out from the end of this special.
And people need to remember this.
We're only five or six days out.
So whatever's the theater that's going on right now, it's going to restart in a week.
And so the Senate, which has not had a quorum break, why the hell haven't they passed the redistricting maps?
I mean, they had time to ban the hemp products that President Trump legalized six years ago.
They had time to ban hemp.
But why have they not taken any action to get what arguably one of the most important issues we get done, not just for Texas, not just for America, but for the world?
I think the Texas Senate may vote on it today, but like, why are we waiting till week four of a four-week special session?
It just here's the, it's just, look, the silver lining to this dumpster fire is that it's doing more, perhaps, than anything I've seen since the sham impeachment of Ken Paxton two years ago to open the eyes of people, not just in Texas, but across the country and the world, to how weak, purple, soft, ineffective, establishment, rhino, liberal, progressive the Republican government is in the state of Texas.
People have no idea that progressives have infiltrated our state government for well over a decade.
And it's actually the party of Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama and Joe Biden and AOC that actually call the shots in many ways here in the government of the state of Texas.
And I can't forget, I mean, your audience knows this.
You're one of the few audiences that knows this.
It's not that the Democrats thwarted our plans to redistricting by making some bold midnight escape.
No, the Republican leadership in the state of Texas allowed them to leave.
Our liberal speaker literally adjourned them so they could get a four-day head start after they went and huddled up with Hakeem Jeffries.
So Republicans could have ended this.
Republicans could end it anytime they want.
And Texans deserve better.
steve bannon
It's a great piece I'll put up about, I think this is in the Washington Post, about how this is going to end with the five seats in Texas.
It's just a matter of how and when it ends.
Brian Harrison, your Twitter account, it's on fire.
Where do people go to get it?
brian harrison
The most hated Twitter account in all of Austin is at Brian E. Harrison, at Brian E. Harrison, at Brian E. Harrison.
If you want to do just one thing today to make the rhinos screaming angry, go there, follow, like, and share the content we're putting out.
And again, thank you, Steve.
Thank you, the posse.
I promise you, the rhetoric that's coming out of the elected Republican leadership and said they're copying our plan to add more Republican seats to the MAC the longer the Democrats.
That was started right here.
That was birthed here on social media, on the posse.
You're making a difference because now the liberal weak establishment, the Uni Party in Austin, they're copying our talking points.
pressure up.
greg abbot
By Democrat governors is nothing more than weak sauce because the fact of the matter is they are bringing a gun to a gunfight but they have no bullets because they lost their bullets when they engaged in redistricting and gerrymandering over the past decade.
They have, because if you look at what the white lines are drawn in California and New York and Illinois, Massachusetts, where there are no Republicans whatsoever, they run out of Republicans that they can move out of office.
If Texas had drawn our lines mathematically the same way that California had, we would be not adding five more seats, we would be adding 10 more seats.
And if you look at all the Republican states across the entire country, if we engage in this war of making sure that each state is going to draw their lines away that the Democrat states have, Republicans are going to be able to pick up maybe as many as 25 seats.
And then I'll add on top of that: with each passing census, it's the red states that are getting the population, the blue states that are losing population.
We know mathematically that New York and California, they lost seats this last census.
They're going to be losing more seats in the coming censuses because people are.
steve bannon
Okay, this is why people, this is why people, this is why people hate politicians and they particularly hate soft rhinos.
And until this audience got back of Brian Harrison and Brian Harrison and Glenn's story and the team of grassroots folks that we had this meeting with a couple of weeks ago, Abbott was nowhere to be seen.
You had to light a create a prairie fire down there in order for him.
Now he's got out in front and he said, dude, if you got 10 seats, how come he's not taking them?
Why are we not doing it?
25 seats, then where are the 25 seats?
Let's roll.
This is why people lose faith and confidence in you.
This is about the rise of Trump.
You see Trump take action in Washington, D.C., and he's going to use that as a template in Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York City.
You see Pete Hexeth in the open talking about taking the fight down to the cartels of Mexico?
It's game on.
We're in a fight for our country and some feckless, incompetent like Abbott, just like he was on the border for years and years and years.
All performance art.
Oh, we get another 10 seats.
We'll take it, dude.
Brian Harrison had to come up with the idea.
Every week they're out, add another seat.
Now you're actually admitting there's 10 seats total.
Why is that not in the map?
Now he's on TV as much as Brian Harrison.
unidentified
Why?
steve bannon
Because he saw he was getting lit up and exposed, just like we exposed him on his feckless defense of the Texas border.
Then he's finally sent the National Guard down total performative.
Remember that?
They were cutting the wire.
This is the problem in the state of Texas.
You have a bunch of soft rhinos, a bunch of soft bush establishment politicians in bed with the Chamber of Commerce and the Democrats are running the deal in a state where the rising power of the grassroots is the railhead of the MAGA movement.
Bo French joins us, head the GOP in Tarrant County, a controversial figure for all the right reasons.
Sir, you've got a map.
What is going on with the leadership down there?
I'm hearing all these big plans behind the scenes.
They got this, they got that.
The only reason they got anything is because the grassroots has ripped the mask off their incompetence on this very topic, and it's humiliating.
And now we're hearing, let's get the number up there.
Can we put the numbers up?
Folks, blow up these phone lines.
If these Democrats are back in the state and they refuse to arrest them, this is going to expose the Republicans for how feckless they are.
There's a number right there for the governor's office, the lieutenant governor's office.
Tell the lieutenant governor, you call him, hey, why has the Texas Senate not passed this?
You got a quorum.
What are you doing?
And throwing a call to the Speaker of the House.
I don't know how much that'll help you.
Bo French, your thoughts, sir.
bo french
Well, two things I would say.
Let's remember how we got here in the Texas House for the last 15 years.
A small rhino group of Republicans has courted the votes from the Democrat caucus to gain the speakership.
So this has been going on since 2009.
It's the same group of people that keep recycling.
They have thwarted the will of the Texas people by not electing a speaker out of the Republican Caucus.
So they are beholden to the Democrats to begin with.
And as Brian Harrison pointed out a minute ago, the Texas House Speaker allowed the Democrats to leave knowing they were going to leave.
And behind the scenes, he was telling everyone, well, they promised me they weren't going to leave.
But I mean, when you have your position because you were elected by Democrats, you know, you're not going to be strong on Democrats, which is the case with our rhino speaker, Dustin Burroughs from London, Texas.
He is just as bad as the previous speakers we've had since 2009, all empowered by Democrats.
So that's one problem.
The other problem is I would argue that because of people like this audience, because of the audience, the growing audience on X that has really pushed the Overton window to the right.
Our leaders here in Texas, Governor Abbott, Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, they've all been forced, and I think some willingly, some not willingly, but they've all been forced to move to the right on all of these issues.
And now we are, you know, on the second week of the Democrats breaking quorum.
We have emergencies here in Texas, like the flood relief and other things.
But more importantly, Donald Trump has shown the Republican Party how to lead, right?
Republicans did not lead, have not led forever.
Donald Trump is leading.
And our leaders in Texas better take note because the American people, the Texans are watching, we understand now that the Republican Party, the new Republican Party, is shirking these old school Bush rhinos and embracing this idea that we have to lead with authority and we have to wield our power the way that Democrats have wielded their power every time they're in charge.
I mean, Beto O'Rourke was just here in Fort Worth, Texas, where I live the other day, talking about how when they have power again, they're going to just ram it down our throats.
And so where are the Republicans?
Why are we not doing the same thing?
You know, the five-seat pickup in Texas is easily doable.
But on my ex account, I've posted we could easily get up to nine seats without endangering any Republicans.
That would only leave three Democrats elected to Congress in Texas.
And I say we do it.
We go for that right now.
unidentified
And I'm actually in favor of.
steve bannon
Hang on, Bo.
Hang on, Bo, because you're a man of action.
Can we get that map up?
I want to see Bo French's map.
See, Bo, this is what I think makes the audience so frustrated.
Until Harrison and we start creating a firestorm and Harrison goes, we should take a new seat every week they're out.
And then Bo French, the controversial Bo French, puts up a map that shows nine and you say it could be easily doable and fair.
People sit there and go, what are we doing?
Why do we even have to force the five out?
Because remember, they didn't even want to do that.
They want to do the flood relief, which they absolutely have to do.
And I think the property tax have to be addressed.
But they just want to get through.
They didn't do it in the regular session.
They want to get through the special session and say, oh, the Democrats blocked us, move on.
They did not want to do the five.
And yet you're sitting there saying, hey, there's nine easily.
And even Abbott last night was saying, hey, there could be 10.
So I think the people's frustration is that it takes a populist uprising to say, no, we got to be as tough and as focused as the Democrats when the Democrats are in power to do this, sir.
Now you're hearing behind the scenes, there is some action going on, I take it.
bo french
Yeah, look, there is discussion about what happens once the Democrats are brought back.
And there's lots of criticism on why they actually haven't been arrested.
And that's a little more nuanced because these are civil arrest warrants, not criminal arrest warrants.
So they're very different.
I've spoken to my contacts in DPS.
They're very different guidelines as to what can actually be done.
And so I'm not going to get into that.
I mean, they're going to do what they're allowed to do.
But the bottom line is all of these Democrats need to be punished.
They need to have their seats vacated.
They need to have their, constitutionally, we can't take away their pay.
But there are other things we can do.
We can absolutely strip vice chairmanships, vacate their seats.
I think, and I actually hope that the governor is considering calling for a redistricting of our Texas legislature also, because we could probably get rid of another five to 10 Democrat seats in the Texas legislature also using the same methodology we're using for the congressional redistricting map.
And so I'm a big proponent of that.
I've been pushing that on my ex, and that seems to be picking up steam.
steve bannon
Bo, I got one thing else I want to address to you before we leave you.
I thought most of the Democrats were in Illinois.
Maybe some are going to go to California, the new hiding space.
Am I correct that one of the Democrats is actually hiding in Pakistan?
Is that correct?
bo french
Well, he claims he was in Pakistan.
He's Pakistani-born.
He's from Pakistan.
He's a radical Muslim leftist, as you can imagine.
Elected here in Tarrant County, where I'm from, one of our elected representatives here.
Yeah, he fled to Pakistan, which is, I jokingly say that that's also where Osama bin Laden was hiding.
But here's a guy who is a radical Muslim, foreign-born.
In my opinion, we shouldn't even allow foreign-born people like Elon Omar or this guy in New York or the guy running for mayor up in Minnesota.
I mean, none of these people, they have allegiance to countries outside of the United States.
America is not their first priority.
And so why we even make it legal for them to be elected to office is beyond me.
And I'm going to be a big proponent of pushing for legislation to ban that practice.
steve bannon
Does he actually live, when you say in Tarrant County, is he actually a registered, does he actually live in the county?
Does he actually live where he's elected from?
bo french
Well, that's an interesting question because we discovered, so he's been claiming his residence to be elected is a 780,000 square foot house, $780,000 house in Ulis, Texas, which is the district that he represents.
But we found out last week, late last week, he actually owns and lives in and claims his homestead exemption in a $3.2 million mansion in South Lake, Texas.
And so obviously, he's not eligible to even be elected to the House district that he's elected to because he doesn't live there.
So that's going to be a problem that we're going to have to look into a little further.
steve bannon
Bo, where do folks, on your Twitter, I want folks to go and particularly study your nine-seat map because I think it's either nine or 10.
We got to do it.
I mean, we got to up the game here down in Texas.
Where do folks go, sir?
bo french
Yeah, I'm on X at Bo French TX, at Bofrench TX, at Bofrench TX.
steve bannon
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate you.
unidentified
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Great to see you again.
Do you have the Jonathan Carl?
Can I play that?
Can I play that clip again?
Just tell me what we got it.
Let's get Jim Rickards in here.
Jim, President Trump's showing you how to lead.
You see it all the way from, hang on for a second.
I want to play this as a lead interview.
Let's go and play Jonathan Carl in the Grand Poobahs talking about President Trump.
jonathan karl
This one, he's making more radical changes to the country and to the White House that'll live well beyond his presidency.
tyler pager
And I think part of it is because he now knows how government works.
I think one of the things that really is the key difference between the first term and the second term is that he had a whole host of characters in the government that were trying to stymie his efforts to radically change the country.
He's now surrounded by people that are fully supportive of his agenda and helping him do it.
He's way more effective at accomplishing his agenda with having that time out of office because those a lot of his aides, Russ Vogue, those sorts of officials spent their time out of government planning for this term.
And so what they've done is an onslaught of executive orders in the first six months that accomplished a lot of their goals very quickly because he knew what they wanted to do.
steve bannon
Rickards, we got about a minute in this segment before we go to break.
Your thoughts about President Trump stepping in and making some big power decisions here, sir.
jim rickards
Well, Steve, you've offered this description for a while, but it's interesting to see the Democrats and the progressives come to the same conclusion.
It took them a while, but they actually figured it out.
And to say that, you know, Trump, loyalists, Trump's closest advisors stuck with him over the four years and don't think Trump wasn't keeping score, so to speak, that's true.
But they didn't just hang around and say, you're the best.
They planned.
And the Heritage Foundation Project 2025, I think it was called, they had to distance themselves a little bit late in the campaign because it was becoming an issue.
But in fact, that was, I mean, I read a lot of it.
It was 900 pages.
I can't say I read every word, but I read hundreds of pages in my areas of expertise.
Man, was that well thought out?
You don't have to agree with everything or endorse everything, But the methodology, the rigor, et cetera, that went into that.
And you made the point, and you're right.
They knew after the 2020 election that they were going to win in 2024 because of the fraud in that election.
They said, we don't have to get more votes.
We just have to stop the fraud.
And Army Dylan and others did that.
steve bannon
Jim, hang on for one second.
Brother Rickards, after the break.
unidentified
Brother Rickards, after the break.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
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Jim Rickards, how in the run-up to this historic meeting in Alaska, how important is it that President Trump is asserting his power in his 200th day?
And he even got Jonathan Carl and these guys saying they've never seen anything like it.
He's having an impact greater than FDR.
How important is that as a predicate to these negotiations this week, sir?
jim rickards
Well, it's important because he's coming off a very strong political base.
I just say a lot of Trump's accomplishments and successes over the first seven, eight months at this point are in the domestic area, plus tariffs.
That's international trade.
I think he's still struggling a little bit in foreign policy, but he's working off a very powerful base.
There's no question about that.
Now, with the meeting in Alaska, former Russian territory, by the way, with the meeting in Alaska, he's making a number of statements.
Number one, Vladimir Putin is subject to an arrest warrant from the International Court of Justice in The Hague.
Well, obviously, Putin's not going anywhere if he thinks he's getting arrested.
So the U.S. is not a member of that, but obviously Trump has offered assurances that, hey, come to Alaska, we'll meet.
You're fine.
So he's kind of, Trump is poking a stick in the eye of the International Court of Justice saying you're just another left-wing front, but we don't take you seriously.
And that's why Putin couldn't go to the BRICS summit in South Africa two years ago because there was some danger that he would get arrested.
So he feels safe there, but that's kind of Trump sheltering him in a very good way.
The other thing that's not getting quite as much publicity as it should.
Why is Putin doing this?
Putin is not going to agree to an unconditional ceasefire.
That's one of the things Trump wants.
That's what Zelensky wants.
Putin is not going to agree to it.
So why do it?
The answer is the agenda for this summit is far broader than the war in Ukraine.
That's obviously an important issue.
But they're looking at security guarantees, security arrangements, I should say, for all of Europe.
Basically undoing NATO, undoing the post-World War II settlements and institutions and coming up with a new framework that would involve Russia as a full partner, number one.
Number two, a rapprochement between Russia and the United States.
Doesn't mean we're treaty allies or anything of the kind.
Doesn't mean we don't still have some adversarial relationships.
But, you know, let's work together.
I mean, U.S. is a tech powerhouse.
Russia is a natural resource powerhouse.
There's probably no better natural trading relationship in the world than those two countries.
Germany would be in the same position.
So Putin's got a broader vision and a broader agenda.
So does Trump.
And that's the main reason they're meeting.
I think that this summit will fail in terms of the Ukraine ceasefire, but it may be a success on a much broader platform.
steve bannon
Do you see that Putin's designs?
You talk about Eurasia and, of course, obviously our existential threat as the Chinese Communist Party.
Do you see their design with Persia, Turkey, India as a new kind of Eurasian bloc?
And that's what they hope to get at least the beginning of and hopefully some sort of rapprochement, not with the West, but maybe some alignment with this, sir?
jim rickards
Well, you're right.
They have some alignment Already.
I mean, Russia-Turkey has been this love-hate relationship for centuries.
And Russia almost got at the time Constantinople or Istanbul at the end of World War I. The British County got there first.
But Russia has no warm water access to ports except through the Bosporus.
That's one of the critical choke points in the world.
So they have to somehow have relations with Turkey, even though they're, as I say, runs hot and cold.
Iran is very dependent on Russia for security and clout and international forms.
Iran's got a lot of problems.
I mean, their economy is collapsing.
They're running out of water, actually.
There's a serious drought there.
They're pumping oil, but they're very dependent on China in that respect.
And they've been attacked by B-2 bombers in the U.S. and Israel.
So Russia has a lot of clout with Israel.
And I've said, oh, sorry, with Iran.
And I've said all along, if Trump and Putin could end the war in Ukraine, Putin would very quickly pivot to help Trump solve the problems with Iran.
You know, maybe Iran-Israel peace treaties is a bit much at this stage, but at least to get them to agree not to continue uranium enrichment.
Russia said, hey, send us, Russia said to Iran, send us your highly enriched uranium, your weapons-grade uranium.
We will send you lower enriched uranium that's good for the nuclear power plant.
So if you want a power plant, fine.
If you want weapons, no.
But we'll do uranium swaps that'll enable you to pursue that.
So there's a lot of good that could come out of the Iranian situation if the Russians were helping us, but they're not because of Ukraine.
So I keep making the point that these things are all connected.
You look at all the moving parts.
steve bannon
Can you stick around with us for the second hour?
We've got George Bibi, the head of Grand Strategy.
The Quincy Institute is going to join us.
We're also John Solomon broke in a massive story last night on the seditious conspiracy about one of the audience's favorite Senator Shifty Schiff, a blockbuster story of what's happening internally over at the FBI about certain documents related to Shift and certain whistleblowers related to Senator Shifty Schiff.
We're also launching a new film today on Richard Nixon made by the great Michael Patrick Leahy and Jeff Shepard off of Jeff Shepard's amazing and groundbreaking work on the judicial coup that was against President Nixon.
It really looks like a replay, a reprise of that here with President Trump and this radical judiciary.
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