Aug. 11, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| One of the things that we have seen over and over from the president, from his team, you know, Stephen Miller saying it's like Baghdad in Ethiopia. | ||
| He they seem to hold their harshest criticism sometimes for cities that are majority black and brown. | ||
| Do you see that and what do you think that means? | ||
| I think that I have been dealing with this issue for a number of years. | ||
| It's kind of easy fodder on the campaign trail. | ||
| But now we're talking about governing and my job is to focus on making sure our city is running, is running well and people enjoy a great quality of life. | ||
| And I think we're doing a really good job. | ||
| We do need the federal government's help, as I mentioned, because they have an outsized influence on our criminal justice system. | ||
| We need more prosecutors, we need more judges. | ||
| There are other ways to help. | ||
| Even we want to rebuild our jail and there are ways that the feds can help with that. | ||
| But also just doing their part, cutting the grass, fixing the fountains, making sure that federal law enforcement is doing all of the police work that they can do. | ||
| And I just have to say thank you to NPS, FBI, ATF, who have always worked cooperatively with us, and we expect that they will again. | ||
| I should note that the most violent moment in recent history in DC was January 6, and it was an attack on the United States Capitol by a lot of people who were doing it in the name of Donald Trump, and it included the people who were hurt, included members of law enforcement. | ||
| My message to residents is this. | ||
| We know that access to our democracy is tenuous. | ||
| That is why you have heard me. | ||
| and many, many Washingtonans before me advocate for full statehood for the District of Columbia. | ||
| We are American citizens. | ||
| Our families go to war. | ||
| We pay taxes and we uphold the responsibilities of citizenship. | ||
| And while this action today is unsettling and unprecedented, I can't say that given some of the rhetoric of the past, that we're totally surprised. | ||
| I can say to D.C. residents that we will continue to operate our government in a way that makes you proud. | ||
| We will balance our budgets. | ||
| We will deploy our services. | ||
| Our kids are going to start school on August 25th. | ||
| And we will work with the federal government to do the things that they should do for our city. | ||
| There was a lot of deception from the president there. | ||
| So here's a reality check. | ||
| There is no doubt that D.C. has for decades been a high crime city. | ||
| It is among the U.S. cities with the highest homicide rates, though there are a bunch of other big cities that are worse. | ||
| And D.C. did indeed have a big crime spike in 2023, which is the year the president kept citing. | ||
| But contrary to what the president said today, even in 2023, DC did not have an all-time high in murder. | ||
| It was way worse during the crack crisis of the 80s and early 90s. | ||
| And more pressingly, Dana, the president was just flat wrong when he said it's getting worse now, not getting better. | ||
| Crime in DC, including murder, has fallen sharply since that 2023 spike. | ||
| It fell in 2024. | ||
| It's fallen further in 2025. | ||
| So let's look at some of this data. | ||
| In 2023, DC had its most murders in more than two decades, 274. | ||
| Of course, that's terrible. | ||
| But it then plunged to 187 murders last year. | ||
| And it's been falling again so far this year through July, according to figures compiled by crime data expert Jeff Asher, DC had 34% fewer murders than it did through the same period in that year 2023. | ||
| Now, how about violent crime more broadly? | ||
| Well, that's also down sharply in the last year and a half. | ||
| In fact, per Jeff Asher, DC's officially reported violent crime rate in 2024 was the second lowest since 1966, so lower than every year of Trump's first administration. | ||
| It's about a third of what it was in those bad old days, the early 1990s. | ||
| And you heard from the president and his team about car jackings. | ||
| Well, indeed, a problem in DC. | ||
| But what do the numbers say? | ||
| Again, a big spike in 2023 down since. | ||
| Asher noted the sixteen car jackings reported in July were the fewest reported in any month in more than five years in DC, down more than 87 percent from the same month in 2023. | ||
| So look, we know crime is a problem in DC. | ||
| We've lived there. | ||
| We know that every violent crime is a shame, a tragedy, of course, not excusing any of them. | ||
| But this isn't an ongoing crime spike like President Trump suggested. | ||
| And he said it's rising even in the text of the executive order. | ||
| I went through it. | ||
| The first section says crime is rising in the capital. | ||
| That is just not true. | ||
| As our home rule charter is also clear and the president's executive order restates, Chief Pamela Smith is the chief of the Metropolitan Police Department and its 3,100 members work under her direction. | ||
| The Home Rule Charter requires the mayor to provide the services of NPD during special conditions of an emergency and we will follow the law, though there's a question about the subjectivity of that declaration. | ||
| In fact, the chief has already provided a high-level liaison and point of contact with the federal government and made those initial contacts. | ||
| The executive order is also clear that the president has delegated his authority to make requests of us to Attorney General Pam Bondi. | ||
| I have reached out to Attorney General Bondi and hope to schedule a meeting soon. | ||
| The briefing they gave us a packet of information to show us some of the arrests that were made over the weekend as this starting to ramp up or increase in federal law enforcement took place and they were fairly low level criminals. | ||
| It was somebody. | ||
| with possession or a DUI at one point. | ||
| And there were only five of them, I believe, listed in this packet. | ||
| So it's unclear, you know, he's talking about this major escalation in violent crime. | ||
| But that is not quite clear from the packet of information they gave us here. | ||
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He's been making these threats since last year and now he's carrying them through. | |
| There's no reason to believe he won't go further. | ||
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What do you say to the president about his threats to bring the military? | |
| We don't, and I think I speak for all Americans, we don't believe or believe it's legal to use the American military against American citizens on American soil. | ||
| I'm not a lawyer, and so but I think that's a fairly widely held fact. | ||
| And so but we've seen them move, I think, the active military into California. | ||
| So it is a question we've seen active military on the borders of DC some years ago. | ||
| And we don't believe that our military should be used against American citizens. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that. | ||
| But you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| Mega Media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conversation. | ||
| a conscience Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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| Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | ||
| you you You're in the War Room. | ||
| It's Natalie Winters hosting today, Monday, August 11 in the Year of Our Lord, 2025. | ||
| I'm not coming at you from DC. | ||
| Interesting timing with everything that's going down there. | ||
| I am on actually the West Coast. | ||
| I am in Washington. | ||
| I just spoke the Yakima County GOP Lincoln Day dinner. | ||
| Wonderful group of very, very fight ready patriots. | ||
| A lot of war room possibly. | ||
| Always an honor to have the chance to speak to you guys, but we've got a p PAC show, we've got Eric Prince, John Lott, John Miano, the latest with all things H one B visas, but I think we learned one thing today, and that's when the left says that they're all about tolerance. | ||
| I think that actually just means tolerating crime. | ||
| I learned a new phrase from that CNN called open a low level criminal. | ||
| Apparently CNN is okay with that. | ||
| They don't think that murder rates spike up on top of really historic highs. | ||
| Maybe there's a dip by one percent that therefore that means there's no crime problem in Washington, DC. | ||
| Although I guess maybe if that's the way that they spin their data, then it's not that hard to see why they approved or approve of the COVID vaccineines and everything sort of in that room. | ||
| I would humbly tell President Trump that if we're going to start arresting criminals in DC, you should probably start with Congress, maybe go for the lobbyists too. | ||
| But I think what you're seeing is a transformation of the idea of what is it? | ||
| Criminal justice reform that we typically hear coming from the mouths of the George Soros acolytes, the Open Society Foundation weirds, that basically is just a Trojan horse to destroy your communities with more, you know, DEI hires for committing crimes. | ||
| But in this case, you're actually seeing criminal justice, crime, actually law and order being used to protect the American people, especially in our nation's capital of which I am a resident. | ||
| And I can tell you, it is as bad as you see it on social media. | ||
| I think just last weekend there were marauding bands of like hundreds of, you know, feral gang youth shooting at police just horrible stuff. | ||
| So President Trump is stepping up. | ||
| So obviously the media is apoplectic over at Murray Bowser too. | ||
| I think we've got Eric Prince up who really I think has a real well documented track record in terms of cleaning up messes abroad and here at home. | ||
| I'm curious, your just general reaction to President Trump's wonderful press conference this morning. | ||
| I liked his example that his father gave that if you go to a restaurant and you see a dirty floor, avoid the restaurant because the kitchen's probably dirty too. | ||
| The president has a right to be concerned about the federal city and what it means for the rest of America. | ||
| If this is our seat of government to have that much criminal activity and feral behavior and gangs running through the streets or just like happened to the guy from Doge last week who saw a girl getting car jacked. | ||
| He tried to intervene and a bunch of these punks beat him bloody enough. | ||
| That's got to stop. | ||
| And, you know, this is the Democrat dream of the defund the police, of kneecapping police so much and the criminal justice system to allow the kind of recurring, unaccountable criminal behavior which compounds and ends up destroying. | ||
| The only reason DC hasn't collapsed, like, oh, other cities that have runaway crime is just the amount of federal spending that keeps showering cash on the city but when you have congressmen who have been carjacked just out to get sushi, uh, as happened also in the last year. | ||
| And just the amount of marauding behavior, the president has right to intervene and to stop it. | ||
| And, you know, it's the limousine liberals that hang out in the in the northwest side of DC, they are the ones that are not suffering as much as the people in southeast DC in the poor areas that have to live with that kind of crime. | ||
| It's always the poorest folks that suffer the most. | ||
| And remember, Washington, DC re-elected Marion Berry after he was caught on camera smoking. | ||
| smoke and crack with hookers and they re-elected him back into the city council. | ||
| So this is a city that has long teetered on criminal chaos and a very different idea of what is clean and orderly and just. | ||
| And I think Trump is right to do it now. | ||
| Deploying the National Guard, good deterrent effect, but what we really need to do is to lock up the worst of the worst. | ||
| And if you take away the very small percentage of the population that is doing crimes again and again, that is what will have the bigger effect than The guard is a good visual deterrent and it may keep crime from happening out of certain areas, but the real problem is you have to lock up that bottom one percent. | ||
| And again, this is also the compounding problem of what's happened with inner city families where the federal government has taken over from fathers. | ||
| And so now you have multi generations of youth that have been raised with no father figure, no disciplined figure. | ||
| And it has compounded fair behavior. | ||
| And I feel bad for the kids, but I really feel bad for the society that is having to do deal with that rampant criminal behavior. | ||
| Eric, if you can hang with us during the break, I want to drill down on what you think this kind of plan or boots on the ground should look like coming from the National Guard, DC police and all that more on posse. | ||
| Make sure you stay around. | ||
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| We know President Trump does not trust the experts, does not even trust a lot of the DC police force. | ||
| I think they've had their hands shackled by just woke ideology and very progressive policies that are I don't know what they're guided by having spent some time here in Washington. | ||
| I think it's quite demonic and just evil what these people are motivated by. | ||
| They worship death and that's what you're seeing on full display. | ||
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| Back in the war room. | ||
| We're still joined by Eric Prince. | ||
| Eric, I'd love if you could sort of drill down. | ||
| I know you have a lot of experience boots on the ground operations in other countries, third world countries, but DC, I don't know if it's it's all that different. | ||
| Your thoughts on how this plan, when it's, you know, implemented, I guess it's being implemented right now. | ||
| But, you know, if you were advising the president, what would you suggest? | ||
| Really effective prosecution. | ||
| I'm so glad that Janine Piro is the DC prosecution, the federal prosecutor for DC. | ||
| She is a very tough on crime. | ||
| Through the book.ok at him, kind of a person, and we need that. | ||
| What look, I've been helping out in Haiti a bit the last few months. | ||
| And Haiti sadly is suffering from the worst of a defund the police, collapse of any kind of law enforcement country. | ||
| And that's twelve million people that are largely being governed by gangs over the last few years, compounding to where they control ninety percent of the capital city. | ||
| And they have taken a turn in law enforcement wise to put serious people in the position of responsibility. | ||
| and are taking the country back from crime. | ||
| President Trump is right to do that in DC. | ||
| It is our nation's capital and to have that kind of runaway crime and well, the statistics are getting much better. | ||
| The fact is they've even removed a police commissioner for falsifying records, right? | ||
| Those, those statistics are kept by the DC Metropolitan Police Department. | ||
| And, you know, there's lies, damn lies and statistics. | ||
| I think there's some funny math going on with them hiding the facts because any actual observer that goes to DC knows the crime., the robbery, the nonsense is much worse than it's been in decades. | ||
| And Eric, I'm curious, there's some discussion about potentially doing programs like this in other cities, Los Angeles, Chicago, New York. | ||
| I myself having been born and raised in LA would definitely put that as number one on the list. | ||
| But do you think that this is a nationally replicable plan that President Trump could pursue? | ||
| I am a big proponent of separation of powers. | ||
| And I think that cities that have Republican governors, let's say failing cities with Republican governors, those governors need to do a much better job of making that a state issue and taking back some of these what have become urban crime centers to take it away from the E's and control the left. | ||
| You know, Chicago, under J.B. Pritzker, that's going to continue to be a disaster. | ||
| But other cities that have runaway crime with Republican governors, they need to do a better job cleaning it up. | ||
| I'm not in favor of a federalization of law enforcement in cities, even in California, where those voters have to deal with those kind of problems. | ||
| DC is a very unique case because it is the federal government. | ||
| It is the seat of the federal government. | ||
| It is the nation's should be the welcome mat for all visitors and all diplomats and all people of goodwill that are coming to do business with America and the United States government. | ||
| They deserve and the citizens of America demand that we have a safe city to operate in that you don't have to worry about being mugged, murdered or worse. | ||
| When you visit our federal city. | ||
| Eric, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| I know the audience really respects your opinions on all these things related to securing the homeland against, I guess, enemies and threats, foreign and domestic. | ||
| If people want to follow you, stay up to date with everything you're working on, you're a very busy man. | ||
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| I'm on Na X at Real Eric D. Prince. | ||
| Thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| Keep it up, Natalie. | ||
| Honored to be joined now by the one and only John Lott. | ||
| I was a high school debater and I remember citing a lot of your studies and debate rounds, so an honor to have you on War Room. | ||
| I'm curious to get your thoughts. | ||
| You do great work, huge fan. | ||
| But you've really been, I think, the number one stat data researcher pushing back against legacy narratives, the idea that crime is a myth in our Republican heads. | ||
| You even see it today, CNN talking about something that is a low level criminal. | ||
| I would love to get some clarification on what the heck that means. | ||
| But could you kind of walk us through what the data shows us about the state of affairs when it comes to criminality in DC? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, we have different types of data on crime. | ||
| What people mostly rely on are the data that's reported to criminals, reported to police. | ||
| That's what the FBI data is based on. | ||
| But the Bureau of Justice Statistics, which is another part of the Department of Justice, has something called the National Crime Victimization Survey where they survey about 240,000 people each year. | ||
| And the reason why they do that is we've known for many decades that not all crimes are crimes are reported to police and that that gap varies systematically over time based primarily on whether people think the criminals are going to be arrested or convicted. | ||
| Now normally over time those two numbers, the total number of crimes and the ones that are reported, to police have tended to move up and down together. | ||
| Unfortunately, basically since COVID, that hasn't been the case. | ||
| And there are multiple reasons for that. | ||
| One is there's been nationally a drop in arrest rates. | ||
| You also have parts of the country where five years ago or six years ago, if you had called up the police to report a crime or 911, they would send out a police car. | ||
| Now there are parts of the country where when you call up, they'll ask you, is the criminal still there? | ||
| And people will usually say, no, he's already left. | ||
| And then they'll say, well,, you can come down to the police station and wait in line and fill out a police report. | ||
| And the problem is, is there are some people who otherwise would have had their crimes reported. | ||
| Now that you make it more difficult, more time consuming for them to do it, say, you know, it's just not worth it because they're less likely to go and catch the criminal to begin with. | ||
| I mean, back in 2022, the arrest rate for violent crime for cities with more than a million people, there are nine such cities in the United States, had fallen to twenty percent. | ||
| And when it gets to be something like that, people ask, is it really worth it? | ||
| And for property crimes, it was even much less. | ||
| And that's 20% of reported crimes. | ||
| If you look at the percentage of total crimes, you're talking about only about 8% are reported to police. | ||
| And I'm curious, I was sent over one of your pieces, you were talking about how I think, you know, the attack on the Doge Engineer is kind of emblematic, I think, of the status quo in DC. | ||
| But you were talking about how, quote, Trump's move for FBI agents and the National Guard will increase arrest rates and simply the threat of arrest will reduce the crime rate. | ||
| I'm curious your thoughts on. | ||
| what exactly the mechanisms are of the plan that President Trump has put forward are going to be the biggest drivers you think potentially bringing either the arrest rates up or the murder, choose your crime, that number down? | ||
| Is it a function of having the National Guard there? | ||
| Is it really the arrest that will be making the biggest impact? | ||
| Well, I think it's a function of many things. | ||
| Look, the bottom line is this, it's not rocket science. | ||
| If you want to reduce crime, you have to make it risky for criminals to commit crime. | ||
| They haven't been prosecuting a large percentage of the violent criminals in Washington, DC. | ||
| Those were decisions by the US attorney during the Biden administration as well as decisions that the district itself makes, particularly with regard to juveniles. | ||
| And Pirro today was saying that she wanted to have the laws changed so that the US attorney, her, could go after these juvenile criminals that were committing crimes right now because they would often be given very light sentences. | ||
| So look, here's the bottom line. | ||
| If you want to deter it, you can make it risky in many ways. | ||
| You can have higher arrest rates, higher conviction rates, longer prison sentences. | ||
| You can also make it so that the victims themselves are able to go and protect themselves and defend themselves from crime. | ||
| I mean, you only have about one percent of the adult population in Washington DC that has a concealed carry permit. | ||
| And there are all sorts of places where you're banned from being able to go and carry. | ||
| So there's a good chance that even a lot of that one percent aren't going around carrying because it's just not practical given the number of gunfree zones that exist there. | ||
| So, you know, the fact that a victim might be able to go and defend themselves in a car jacking, uh, can also make it riskier for criminals to commit crimes. | ||
| And if my research convinces me of anything, uh, there are basically two groups of people who benefit the most from being able to go and have guns, there are women and, and elderly people, people who are relatively weaker physically. | ||
| You know, I was chief economist for the US Sentencing Commission. | ||
| I must have read over a thousand trial transcripts. | ||
| And these criminals, you know, they may be stupid in some sense, but they're not that dumb. | ||
| You know, they see if they see someone who's weaker, an easier target, that's the person that they go after. | ||
| And so, you know, having a woman alone is often a very attractive target for these guys because they feel the strength advantages that they have. | ||
| They don't have to worry about anything that she might do. | ||
| If you give her a gun or allow her to have a gun for protection, that can often make a big difference. | ||
| I mean, it's a great equalizer in that case. | ||
| And the other group of people who benefit the most are the people who are the most likely victims of violent crime. | ||
| And that's basically poor blacks who live in high crime urban areas and there's a lot of those who live in Washington, DC. | ||
| John, if you can hang with us through the break, I just got a few more questions for you, but I appreciate you joining. | ||
| Like I said, I'm your number one fan when it comes to data and research. | ||
| You do the work that I think the media intentionally doesn't want us to see. | ||
| So thank you and warm pause. | ||
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| If Trump can make DC safe, I think gold has always been a hedge. | ||
| There are a lot of things that can be done. | ||
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| Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. | ||
| Welcome back to War Room. | ||
| Obviously, another part of President Trump's plan to make DC safe again is that they're going to deport and just get rid of, get out of the country, a lot of these illegal aliens that I think are in and around the DMV area. | ||
| John, I wanted to sort of dive down that rabble with you two. | ||
| I know you've done a lot of research into the crime rates of illegal aliens, much to the dismay and outrage. | ||
| I was going to say of, you know, the libertarian right, but frankly, it's their corporate paymasters who want to open borders and cheap labor that probably don't like you very much. | ||
| But your response to the media's apoplexy over the link that President Trump is making between crime rates, you know, plummeting or at least significantly going down if you fix the illegal alien problem in DC. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, I mean, this is something nationally, you know, during the Biden administration, if you look at total crimes, they increased very dramatically. | ||
| In fact, during the first three years of his administration, which is all we have the official numbers for right now from the Bureau of Justice Statistics, there was over a fifty percent increase in violent crime. | ||
| That's the largest increase over any three year period that we've ever recorded over the 51 years that they've had this data out. | ||
| In fact, it's more than twice as large as the largest previously measured increase. | ||
| And so it wasn't people's imagination that crime was going up. | ||
| And it's hard to ignore the fact that that coincided with the open borders and this huge influx of many, many millions of illegal aliens coming over, illegal aliens who weren't being checked for criminal records. | ||
| And you look at it now and money is going up. | ||
| And my guess is, though we don't have the numbers, that we've been seeing a drop in violent crime. | ||
| We've been seeing at the same time the border has been closed and Trump is going out and deporting illegal aliens who have criminal records. | ||
| But it's even the criminal aliens that he hasn't caught yet, he has an effect on because they know that if they get arrested, they'll be deported. | ||
| And so one way to kind of keep off the police's radar is not to be committing crime right now. | ||
| And so I think even for those he hasn't been able to catch yet, there's been this reduction in crime that's occurred. | ||
| But you just have to look at the numbers put out by the Biden administration. | ||
| About a month and a half before the election, the deputy director for ICE put out a report saying that of the seven point four million so called non detained individuals that had been released into the country, six hundred sixty three thousand of them had criminal records. | ||
| Now, the problem is that many countries like Venezuela, for example, would not provide information on the criminal records of their citizens that were here illegally. | ||
| So that's an underestimation for that. | ||
| Plus, the vast majority of these so called non-detained individuals were those who voluntarily turned themselves in at the border. | ||
| And those are not the ones, I mean, it's amazing you still have such a high crime rate even with those as you do. | ||
| But those are not the ones that you should be most concerned about. | ||
| You know, we have like two million gottaways during the Biden administration, people that we saw coming across the border that we didn't catch. | ||
| And then we have un told millions more that we didn't even get to see coming across the border because Biden had pulled off 76 percent of the border agents who normally would be guarding the border. | ||
| and instead used them to go and process the illegal aliens that they had let in. | ||
| And about a third of the passive monitoring equipment, the cameras and other things that we had along the border were broken and the Biden administration had refused to fix it. | ||
| And so you have a situation where there were large parts of the border where there were no eyes on it. | ||
| So we have no idea and presumably the cartels figured out where those were. | ||
| And so we have no idea how many more millions, but it's those people that you would imagine their criminal background is much higher than the nine percent which is an underestimation even then of these so called nondetained individuals. | ||
| John Lott, you do such wonderful work. | ||
| I know the audience will want to read all of your writings. | ||
| Where can they go to do that and stay up to date with everything you're working on? | ||
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| Well, they go to our website at crimeresearch dot org crimeresearch dot org and they can also go to my Twitter account. | ||
| It's my name, John R. Lott junior. | ||
| Thank you, sir, so much for joining us and thank you for the work you do. | ||
| Thank you for being there. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's almost like democrats and their allies. | ||
| in the media don't want to gather the data that would make it that much more difficult for them to try to lie to us. | ||
| I think you see that with the origins of COVID, the COVID vaccine, everything going on at the border. | ||
| And frankly, this is a perfect segue into our next topic, all things H1B visas that honestly might be one of the largest scams and lies perpetuated on the American people that guts goes to the core of what it means to be an American, the value of your citizenship, the idea that your government shouldn't have some perverse or reverse social contract with you whereby they are pursuing policies that are going to disadvantagevantage you from jobs and livelihoods and depress your wages. | ||
| So a bunch of foreigners that don't speak English with degrees from fake universities can take you and your children's future away from you. | ||
| I think it should be that simple. | ||
| But as we've learned, it's not, apparently. | ||
| An interesting, I'm being eufemistic there, a decision coming out of President Trump's DOJ with regard to the addition of spouses of H one B migrants with regard to them receiving work permits. | ||
| We're joined by John Miano, who has kind of forced this issue. | ||
| You guys, just like John Lott, I guess the Johns do really, really good work on issues that I know this audience is extremely passionate about. | ||
| But can you kind of explain or contextualize this article for us, the scope of the problem and what it really is? | ||
| Okay, let me get started with H one B. It's interesting you talked about the statistics issue because we have the same problem in H one B, in that the government refuses to collect the statistics that would tell us what's going on because they know the data is so bad that they don't want it to get out. | ||
| So they just don't collect it. | ||
| You do a foil request to DHS about getting the nature of H one B and you get. | ||
| a response that says, oh, we don't have that. | ||
| We don't have that data. | ||
| But for the people who aren't familiar, the H1B visa program is something Congress designed to replace Americans with cheap foreign workers. | ||
| You got to get that in mind. | ||
| Congress designed this program to replace Americans with cheap foreign workers. | ||
| They made it explicitly legal to replace Americans. | ||
| And then they created a wage system to allow employers to pay extremely low wages. | ||
| And the lobbyists use the gaslighting that this is for highly skilled workers where their shortage is. | ||
| But in reality, there's no skill requirement whatsoever in the H-1B program except for fashion models. | ||
| And there's no shortage requirement. | ||
| There had been a shortage requirement in the predecessor H-2 visa. | ||
| And there had been a requirement that H-1B would not, that these workers would not negatively affect affect Americans but Congress got rid of both of those when they created the h1b program and H1B is nearly perfect for replacing Americans with cheap foreign workers. | ||
| The only flaw is that they're there are limits on the number of visas. | ||
| And for years, industry has sought increases in the numbers and ways to eliminate the limits and ways to circumvent the limits. | ||
| And so one of them they've come up with is to allow the spouses of H1B workers to work. | ||
| And so that way you get a two-fir. | ||
| And the Barack Obama administration allowed certain H-1B workers to be able to work, to have their spouses work as well to get that process started. | ||
| And the regulations say that And what you're seeing is here is part of an even larger problem of the executive under Obama and Biden claiming that they have the authority to authorize alien employment. | ||
| So not only does congress create these visa programs, we now have the executive creating them. | ||
| So the big ones we had like DACA, this H1, H4 work program. | ||
| We had Biden's parole program, which has been subjecting communities across the country to saturation with migrants. | ||
| And so the big question is, does the executive have the authority to create these employment programs? | ||
| And the reason why these employment programs are important is because they determine who can stay in the country. | ||
| Because if Congress can set, if you can say you can work, then you have the means to stay in the country. | ||
| And one illustration is we have something called deferred action where the executive doesn't prosecute you for deportation. | ||
| Okay, well, they don't prosecute. | ||
| But then through the administrative state, they create elections that they give you a work permit. | ||
| So you're not even going to leave on your own. | ||
| it's effectively become an immigration program. | ||
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| No, I was just saying you've opened up the timing of the case perfectly for the Trump administration, you know, to be in office, but they don't really have your back is what I'm gathering. | ||
| That's what's happened. | ||
| So now we've had the question whether... | ||
| We've had several DACA cases. | ||
| We have one on the optional practical training program, which is the largest. | ||
| largest alien employment program in the country and it was created over a dinner party with lobbyists through the executive and the supreme court has punted every time so the next one has finally come up which is over these h four spouses whether the government can give spouses this work permits, again, without the approval of Congress. | ||
| And this calls into question the larger issue of whether they can create all these programs at all, which would seem to be perfectly aligned with Omega, you know, who we theory has we've been told is against H1B, against replacing Americans, against DACA. | ||
| against these Biden parole programs. | ||
| And so it comes to the Supreme Court and the Trump administration's response sounds just like Barack Obama. | ||
| In fact, I think most of the text comes directly from Barack Obama. | ||
| They basically said that they support giving spouses of H ⁇ B workers employment. | ||
| And meanwhile, American workers, American graduates can't find jobs, and Trump's giving these, giving more jobs to foreign workers. | ||
| So we kind of have this problem with Trump. | ||
| in that he's like, he's sort of like the NFL rusher who does 200 yards per game, which we really celebrate. | ||
| his great accomplishments, but then he fumbles the football in the end zone to lose, to end up losing the game, which is going on here. | ||
| And particularly troubling is how the response from the Trump administration really reeks of contempt for average working Americans. | ||
| I mean, it's really disgraceful. | ||
| I mean, that Donald Trump could put something like this on paper. | ||
| which tells us that either that Trump does not have control of his justice department or Trump does and or he does not have control of DHS. | ||
| John, if you can hang with us during the break, I want to drill down who you think is sort of lobbying or pitching on behalf of this program, the nefarious elements within DOJ, the Trump admin. | ||
| I think the audience would probably put our money on big business, all these corporations that have tried to basically make American citizenship mean absolutely nothing. | ||
| It's disgraceful. | ||
| My blood is boiling about this stupid program, and it has been for a very long time. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
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| Welcome back to the War Room. | ||
| We're still joined by John Miano, who has really been leading the fight on the HMV visa front for years now. | ||
| And I'm just curious, your expertise in this field, where does that lead you to think that a lot of the opposition, even within the Trump administration, within the DOJ, is coming to gunning this program? | ||
| Is it big business? | ||
| Is it lobbyists? | ||
| Is it an ideological thing? | ||
| I think it's well, two things. | ||
| If you notice that in the last election, I think everyone knew that it, everyone knew that the election was not going to be as close as it was that Donald Trump was going to soundly defeat the woman who couldn't answer any questions. | ||
| And so what we saw was the people in Silicon Valley who normally had lined up with Democrats were jumped up and were lining up behind Donald Trump. | ||
| And so I think that those people have now got his, got his ear. | ||
| While in comparison in 2016, Donald Trump was campaigning with Americans who had been replaced by H1B workers. | ||
| And then so suddenly in December of last year, Donald Trump announces that he supports H1B visas. | ||
| And so we have Donald Trump saying that he supports replacing Americans with foreign workers and everyone was in great shock. | ||
| The second piece is the deep state within the agencies. | ||
| So for example, I told you about the just described the power to create all these work programs. | ||
| The deep state in the DHS doesn't want to give up that power. | ||
| They want to keep, they want to retain and probably And so it's those two forces that I think are major at work. | ||
| And I also, I mean, I could maybe throw a third one and that I don't think that our side really has much access to this current administration. | ||
| In 2016, I mean, there were people in the Trump White House who I could call and they would actually answer my phone and I could, you know, describe these problems to them. | ||
| Now in the current 2024 Trump administration, we have absolutely no access to what's going on. | ||
| I mean, there's no one I, no one who will listen to me or take my call in the current administration. | ||
| John, there's a lot of details that I'm sure the audience is going to want to go through how can people follow you stay up to date with everything you guys are working on and check out what you guys are doing. | ||
| Okay, I have two major locations. | ||
| One is Center for Immigration Studies, CAS dot org, and that's where I have my written stuff and I have two recent articles there that explain how Congress made it legal to replace Americans with foreign workers and another article on how Congress made it legal to pay H one B workers extremely low wages. | ||
| And then for the legal stuff, that takes place at Fair US us dot org federation for American immigration reform they're leading the the litigation fight I have I'm divided between different groups in in the fight here John, | ||
| thank you so much for joining us in the work that you do we'll have you back on to give us hopefully a good update hopefully the Supreme Court will take this case and put an end to these this screw of American workers that's been going on for decades Indeed. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| And Warren Posse, I want to flag kind of a bombshell story for you guys talking about how they want to replace you and your jobs with, I guess in this case, it's not illegal alien labor, it's legal immigrant labor. | ||
| And yes, that's right, meaning matters. | ||
| We're going to use the R word, replace. | ||
| But over the weekend, I found out that the United Nations has been secretly working on a new artificial intelligence tool to help speed up, they say speed up, streamline, refugee admission processing into a lot of countries, including Western countries. | ||
| The tool, they say, is going to help reverse backlogs in these cases. | ||
| They're going to look for deficiencies in the current technology, but this is obviously a five alarm fire sound the alarm because this is going to give the UN the authority, basically, to have an on and off button, a switch, toggle it on, toggle it off, with regard to controlling refugee flows into countries. | ||
| They can essentially prioritize through AI vetting refugees based off race or demography or religion or political beliefs. | ||
| So we're definitely going to keep tracking this story. | ||
| The program is just being rolled out. | ||
| It's still in its infancy. | ||
| But this is something that I think is extremely, extremely concerning. | ||
| Also, we got all the UN and WEF bureaucrats as we speak, working on the Global Plastics Global Pollution Treaty, which is, I guess, Pandemic Treaty 2.0, the way that they're going to try to reverse everything that President Trump is trying to do with regard to strengthening American energy and strengthening the American economy by doing the former and instead making us subject to a supranational globalist hell hole. | ||
| regulation black hole that apparently you can't even consume anything plastic or produce it or use fossil fuels, you know, the whole list. | ||
| So we're watching that one closely as well. | ||
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