Aug. 7, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | ||
| Good evening. | ||
| Wednesday, 6th of August. | ||
| Annodomini 2025. | ||
| It's the feast of the transfiguration today when the Catholic liturgy recalls the transfiguration of Christ between before, I think it was Peter, James, and John. | ||
| Great miracle, great revelation of Jesus Christ's divinity. | ||
| divine inner life there before the disciples. | ||
| This show, what we try to do on every Wednesday between 6 and 7 is just dig in ever so slightly to some of the things that perhaps the other elements of the mainstream press don't particularly cover to do with the going on really of the Catholic Church, though we do talk about certain things in the Protestant sphere when they occur. | ||
| We love the Catholic Church, we recognize the Catholic Church almost single handedly built Western civilization, Christianity, certainly for the first thousand years, arguably for the first 1500 years. | ||
| years after the birth of Christ. | ||
| And if we are losing certain battles in the religious and spiritual realm, which we are doing, that is because I think the Catholic Church has largely been absent without leave since the Second Vatican Council. | ||
| Now to illustrate some of the ways that the Catholic Church has been absent without leave, I'm joined by our regular guest today, Liz, your Frank Walker and Jenny Holland. | ||
| Liz, you'll remember the leading luminee that is Bill Donahue, a great voice out there, basically the Catholic version of, is it Abraham Foxman who's always out there sort of lobbying for the Jewish lobby in American public life. | ||
| Bill Donahue did that for many years, many decades for the Catholic Church. | ||
| Now he's got this report out, this analysis out, right, about the revelations. | ||
| that are coming to light thanks to the presence of Cash Patel as FBI director. | ||
| This is folks, this is a great example of elections having consequences. | ||
| This is really sort of something that the war room has been on militantly right from the beginning when the news started to come out to do with how the FBI has been focused on radical traditionalist Catholics of which I proudly consider myself to be one. | ||
| Let's tell me what is Bill Donahue been bringing to light specifically to do with this outrageous conduct of the US government? | ||
| Well, so Bill Donahue issued a statement regarding a very important interim staff report from the committee. | ||
| on the Judiciary, a Jim Jordan's Weaponization Committee. | ||
| And it was just issued on July 22 of this year. | ||
| So the title of it, and I think it's actually they're kind of soft pedaling it, how the Biden Ray FBI manufactured a false narrative of Catholics Americans as violent extremists. | ||
| And what's really interesting about this article is this is an ever evolving scandal, politicization warfare against the Catholic Church in America. | ||
| And Bill Donne he was commenting. | ||
| on it. | ||
| I've been following this story, excuse the pun religiously, because I'm extremely concerned also filing FOIA against the FBI, trying to find out, get to the bottom of this, what I would call a concerted effort by the FBI to target and weaponize traditional Catholics as radical terrorists, violent terrorists. | ||
| And you may remember that the report, there was a memo. | ||
| They called it the Richmond Memo. | ||
| And just to give people background, the Richmond Memo, FBI Memo, only because Kyle Sarafin, an FBI whistleblower, released it to the public. | ||
| And initially, this Richmond Memo was from this particular FBI agent and or an analyst actually, where they were talking about in Warning about traditional Catholics posing as an extremist threat and could be considered potential terrorists. | ||
| Well, there was near, you know, nearly a fire attack. | ||
| It was almost a firestorm when this dropped on the American public and on the Catholic Church. | ||
| You will remember, of course, that Chris Ray initially came out and said he was aghast at this memo. | ||
| He also commented that it was a single product from a rogue agent. | ||
| Now we know, now we know, and there have been two house committee reports on this about the breach of religious freedom by the FBI. | ||
| And with each report, we find out now, Ben, that more and more activity. | ||
| was investigative activity was being conducted by the FBI to target it. | ||
| It was not one single product. | ||
| It was a product that went to the Louisville office and was investigated to the Seattle Washington office. | ||
| Also, they were coordinating with the London FBI office. | ||
| Not only was there widespread use of this memo by the FBI, but additionally, what happened was the investigator of the FBI and the Richmond office went to a Catholic priest in R Richmond started interrogating him. | ||
| The priest said, I really, as it was his right, I need to consult with an advocate. | ||
| He was asking him specifically about one of his parishioners. | ||
| And as a result of the priest saying, I want to talk to an advocate and my supervisor, the FBI began an investigation of this priest looking at his travel records and his bank records. | ||
| This is targeting someone who, in their view, does not appear to be cooperative. | ||
| It's the power of the FBI. | ||
| I mean, this priest, frankly, everyone is very lucky that there wasn't FBI placing remotely child porn on his computer. | ||
| This is an absolute scandal. | ||
| And what we need to do is, and I don't think we've seen the last of this, there was, and the finding was that there was absolutely no legitimate basis for this memorandum. | ||
| The FBI couldn't even define what is a radical traditional Catholic. | ||
| The two FBI agents who co authored it said that the source, and I'm curious about this, was the Southern Poverty Law Center. | ||
| But additionally, no FBI agents have been fired over this report. | ||
| So this is Let me ask you this because my understanding of this is that the FBI in framing these surreptitious investigations on basically just ordinary Catholics who take their faith very seriously, which I mean, all Catholics should, all Protestants should. | ||
| Let's just get let's just say that straight away. | ||
| But there were certain articles out there and I just throw this one up as a because this headline is pretty astonishing how extremist gun culture is trying to co-opt the rosary here's something tell me you're giving me your opinion on this given that the present FBI director is Cash Patel this a very good friend of this of this transmission of the war room, | ||
| do you think it would be a good idea for the FBI now to uncover to see whether these articles were being planted by the FBI in the mainstream press? | ||
| I think that one might have been in the Atlantic, but I can double check that. | ||
| To see the FBI, it was in the Atlantic to see if the FBI was involved behind the scenes in planting these articles, which it could then cite as evidence to the wiretaps and the bugging and the following and everything else that the FBI is famous for. | ||
| Do you think that would be a fruitful line of inquiry right now for Director Patel? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| We know that there's a circular firing story. | ||
| The FBI and CIA through Operation Mockingbird continues to plant articles and then uses those articles as justification for. | ||
| for opening an investigation. | ||
| And this, what is especially troubling is now we learn, and every, every month or two, now we learn that the headquarters, FBI headquarters, was aware of this investigation and and was, gave him a go for it, pat on the back. | ||
| And so I have a lot of questions. | ||
| One question is specifically what you point out. | ||
| What was the extent of this operation, this weaponization against the Catholic Church? | ||
| And there was talk that it was also going to extend to the mainline Catholic churches, not just to traditional SSPX chapels. | ||
| Additionally, I think we need to ask the question, who really did motivate the and trigger this investigation, this witch hunt against the Catholics? | ||
| And folks, I'm going to give you free legal advice. | ||
| Traditionis custodas was promulgated in 2021, July of 2021. | ||
| We knew that the Catholic Church in America was full behind moving forward on the TLM. | ||
| And when Traditionis custodas was issued by Pope Francis, there was a suppression of the mass. | ||
| Was the Catholic Church, the Vatican, using the FBI to weaponize and to underscore tradition as custodas? | ||
| Was there an intimidation campaign inspired by any members of the Catholic hierarchy or at the Vatican? | ||
| We know that the Clinton campaign was coordinating with the Vatican. | ||
| I think there are a lot of unanswered questions here, and I think this is just the beginning. | ||
| And just because we have Cash Patel in the FBI, there is no reason to take our foot off the pedal. | ||
| We have to get to the bottom of this and who was behind it. | ||
| And I think there should be civil lawsuits filed against the FBI on behalf of the SSPX to get to the bottom of what this campaign against the Catholic Church in America was at the hand of the FBI. | ||
| Lizio, this is something you've been mentioning constantly on the show. | ||
| And just to make the point absolutely explicit, your question here is that was Pope Francis Bergoglio, Cardinal Bergoglio, was he and his regime in the Holy See working behind the scenes with the FBI to persecute traditional Catholics because of the opposition those Catholics were giving to the Vatican's modernist agenda. | ||
| So in the same light, we said that perhaps the FBI director, Cash Patel, might want to direct an internal investigation with regards to whether these articles, and thanks very much. | ||
| to Denver for putting that article up there just a few moments ago on the screen from the Atlantic. | ||
| Was the FBI behind the scenes working to get these fake articles planted in the mainstream media, which it could then cite as justification for launching these surreptitious persecutions on taxpaying and believing Americans. | ||
| The Second question therefore is perhaps Marco Rubio Secretary of State might want to direct an internal query to go into the vaults in the archives and find out exactly what the Vatican was doing behind the scenes with the Biden regime to coordinate on that. | ||
| If there were, if there's a paper trail, if there's a smoking gun, lésure, and I pay full tribute to you because you've been mentioning this from the beginning, but if there is. | ||
| a paper trail there that suggests that the Holy See, the diplomatic operation of the Vatican, was working hand in glove with the corrupt, weaponized FBI of the unlamented Biden regime, that I think will be absolutely astonishing. | ||
| I'm sure there would be legal things to follow. | ||
| Liz, you're, please stay with us. | ||
| I know you've got something more to come back on on the show later to do with how we are losing the cultural wars, largely in part to the absence of the Catholic Church. | ||
| But thank you for that reading. | ||
| Stay with us, Liz. | ||
| We'll come back to you later. | ||
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| Jenny Holland, there's some development here in the UK, my beloved homeland, of this poor chaplain of a Catholic school chaplain who was sacked after telling children they were free to question LGBT policies and told that he's still living in shame and spiritual exile six years later. | ||
| Can this possibly be true? | ||
| Yes, apparently it is true. | ||
| A man by the name of Reverend Dr. Bernard Randall was the chaplain at a private school called Trent College in Derbyshire. | ||
| And he, as a Church of England chaplain, gave a sermon in 2019 to the student body in which he told them that it was okay to question gender ideology. | ||
| For his trouble, he was sacked by the school. | ||
| Not only was he sacked, it gets even crazier, Ben, he was referred by the school to the UK's terrorism prevention program called Prevent. | ||
| So he was actually referred to a counter terrorism program for stating that children in as a man of God, as a chaplain, children did not have to follow gender ideology and they were allowed to question it. | ||
| Thankfully, Prevent quickly dismissed the concerns and he had to be reinstated by the school. | ||
| This was in 2019, however, and when COVID came along a year later, he was made redundant. | ||
| After he was made redundant, the local diocese, the bishop of his area, refused to renew his license to preach, essentially nullifying his chaplain. | ||
| possibilities and have left him out in the cold ever since. | ||
| And the reason they did not renew his permission, essentially, to conduct his vocation was, and I quote, things that are controversial could | ||
| That was said by a safeguarding officer within the Church of England who referred to the Reverend's position on gay issues as your views, meaning, you know, this safeguarding officer said put those views on to him as if they were his personal views and not the views of Christianity. | ||
| And as such, the bishop refused to reinstate him. | ||
| Now, as you said in your remarks, he has called this spiritual exile. | ||
| I mean, this is and also he can't he has not been able to get find full time work since. | ||
| So this is yet another example of the Church of England elites basically functioning not as a church but as one gigantic human resources department, which follows the rules of a secular bureaucracy that is captured by transgender and gay ideology and not in any way by the Bible from which it is supposed to base its entire ethos. | ||
| I can't, every time I see one of these stories from the Church of England, I am shocked. | ||
| The absolute demoralization campaign that they have waged against this unfortunate reverend really should be held up as a national shame. | ||
| This guy is married with children as well. | ||
| He has a daughter. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I think the fight that he's doing here is absolutely heroic and all Protestants following the show can be justifiably proud of the heroic stance he has taken. | ||
| There's a similar parallel, I can't help but see a parallel here between what's going on in the Church of England and the Catholic Church as well, is that you have a lot of priests chaplains., vicars on the ground who try as hard as they can to inculcate faith in their flock. | ||
| And they're constantly kicked in the back of the knees by their bishops and hierarchs. | ||
| Tell me a little bit more, if you wouldn't mind, about the hierarchy, the bishops in the Church of England. | ||
| Has anyone in the hierarchy been supporting him? | ||
| Not as that's been reported publicly. | ||
| And I wouldn't be surprised if none are doing so privately either. | ||
| I mean, this is an issue where ordinary people, you know, the people closest to the ground are expressing good faith religious views and they're not just getting kicked in the back of the knees. | ||
| I mean, they're getting hounded out of their jobs and they're having their lives destroyed. | ||
| In Ireland, there's a teacher, he's not a... | ||
| And then they kept after him for his activism. | ||
| He caused trouble. | ||
| He refused to stay silent and he refused to follow their bureaucratic orders. | ||
| And he spent 500 days in prison. | ||
| I mean, the fact that ordinary people cannot get their common sense views aired because they're being hunted down by petty bureaucrats. | ||
| I mean, I wonder, do the petty bureaucrats have any kind of belief at all or are they just trying to cover their behinds? | ||
| I just want to flag up something that we hit last week on the show about this job that was advertised on the Department for Work or Pensions website, inviting people with degrees, saying that the position was limited to folks with degrees in Sharia law. | ||
| So on the one hand, you have this absolute accommodation for Islam now on official formal governmental websites. | ||
| And yet Christians are being, as you just mentioned, imprisoned for 500 days for incorrectly using a pronoun. | ||
| And I just want to point out before we move on, because there's something else in the States that's.s related to this that I quickly want to hit before the break. | ||
| But this guy, the Reverend Randall, Bernard Randall, when he said that students were free to question LGBT policies, his college referred to the government's prevention of a prevent counter terrorism program for delivering that sermon to peoples. | ||
| So that is now considered to be within the realms of terrorism, just questioning the ideology. | ||
| Just questioning. | ||
| Can I just say quickly, it's obvious now that transgender and gay ideology is the new religion. | ||
| It is the new religion for a large part of the bureaucracy. | ||
| And for the rest of the bureaucracy, it seems to be Islam. | ||
| That's where we are in the UK. | ||
| Well, you know, the importance is that these people who are trying to change the culture and are succeeding absolutely have to have their hands on the formation of the next generation, on the minds of the next generation. | ||
| Otherwise, it's absolutely hopeless. | ||
| And that's why they're being so militant. | ||
| In the two minutes that we have before we go to the break, tell me something, just a quick bit, if you wouldn't mind, about the 7th US Court of Appeal. | ||
| appeals being on the split decision regarding this music teacher who felt uncomfortable about using transgender students preferred names. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this is a slightly more hopeful story. | ||
| A teacher in Indiana had his suit against his school district reinstated by a Trump appointed judge. | ||
| And I mean, I think, I think, while obviously the case still has to play out, it is, it just goes to show how important judges are because, you know, as these things proceed through the courts, if you get a. | ||
| zealote judge who is, what, 100% on board with transgender ideology, or one who would agree with the FBI memo that you were talking about earlier, that portrays all Catholics and all Christians as inherent terrorists, then people like this are going to be hounded out of work, like this Reverend has been in England. | ||
| And you say, you point out that this is actually more hopeful in America simply because President Trump is making such great appointments to the judicial bench right across the country, right? | ||
| Yes, Trump is the game changer. | ||
| Trump certainly is the game changer. | ||
| I think Liz, you all want us to come in on this quick point before we go to the break. | ||
| Liz, you have 60 seconds. | ||
| My comment is that the story that Jenny has talked about is courage is really found in unlikely places. | ||
| And who said that? | ||
| JR Tolkien. | ||
| And when you think of the people, yes, you judges are very important, but if you don't have music teachers, the average teacher fighting these fights like Enoch Burke in Ireland. | ||
| And Kyle Sarafin, the FBI whistleblower, and Will Goodman, the prolifer. | ||
| If you don't have the average people stepping into the breach, we're not going to win these fights. | ||
| So shout out to the quiet, brave soldier, civilian soldier who does the hard work. | ||
| This is the importance of fulfilling our Lord's mandate of being the yeast that makes the bed rise. | ||
| So small in quantity, but so absolutely dominant in effect once we hand our lives over to faith in our Lord. | ||
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| I remember about twenty years ago, one of the most memorable elements of my spiritual life, I think it was about twenty twenty, twenty four, was the release of Mel Gibson's film, The Passion of the Christ. | ||
| I must have seen that film about twenty times, extremely moving, extremely powerful. | ||
| There are some developments, there are certain rumours that come out from time to time, but there are some developments. | ||
| Apparently, Newsmax has the latest on the sequel to this. | ||
| Frank Walker, tell us, what are the latest revolutions? | ||
| Quite interesting, I think. | ||
| Well, they've, you know, he's been talking about this for a long time that he was going to make this movie. | ||
| He's had the sequel coming out. | ||
| And, you know, he's had a lot of different projects that he's completed. | ||
| And sometimes he floats ideas so we don't know what to think. | ||
| But now, apparently, it seems to be happening because the filming is getting ready to start in October for the resurrection of the Christ. | ||
| And not only will it be a follow-up to the previous movie, but it's going to be in two parts. | ||
| The first one's going to be released on Good Friday in 2027. | ||
| And the second will be 40 days later on the on the Feast of the Ascension. | ||
| And, you know, it's just like the first time around when he. | ||
| did this movie, it was risky. | ||
| It was his own company. | ||
| It was a lot of his own money. | ||
| And he, I don't know if you remember, but he had tremendous pushback. | ||
| Remember the pushback that he had from the industry? | ||
| I think he had trouble when he was trying to get distribution. | ||
| People were saying that the movie was anti Semitic. | ||
| But then he got it out there and it was an enormous hit. | ||
| It set like a record for an independent film. | ||
| Anyway, so the films, you know, they asked for comment and they're not getting a lot of comment. | ||
| They don't know if Jim Caviezel, who played Jesus, is going to be Jesus. | ||
| They don't know who the actors are. | ||
| A lot of the stuff is very close to the vest, but they have to have it all put together already because they're getting ready to start filming any day now. | ||
| It's going to be a theologically much broader. | ||
| It's not just the passion of Jesus, but it starts all the way from the fall of the angels. | ||
| I think this movie is going to be a catechisis for people. | ||
| It's so necessary. | ||
| It's going to be back and forth in time and blessed the passion of the Christ was like that too. | ||
| But Bill Gibson calls it an acid trip. | ||
| It's going to be it's just it's just going to be something that they really need to heal. | ||
| And he says it's like a trip to hell they have to go to hell first and i think these these themes he's going to touch on are so important for people to understand and today you know because this is this is not just catholicism this is faithful traditional catholicism is going to come back into the uh in a big way and you know we'll see what kind of results it has but I think there's also going to be, during the actual, the filming of it, they had all sorts of, you know, frightening things happen, sort of demonic things. | ||
| Jim Caviezel said he had a lot of suffering playing the role. | ||
| And then you remember afterwards, remember all the trouble that Mel Gibson had when he, after the movie was made, you know, and I think he just, he you know, I wonder what kind of things are in store for this, because this is a real battle that he's doing, getting this filmed and getting it out there. | ||
| And I think it's going to be the same this time around. | ||
| It's the writer from Braveheart. | ||
| It's the same producer that he's had before. | ||
| In this Newsmax article, they reference The Chosen, which has been, you But the chosen is a good thing to see the difference because it's really going to be quite different from the chosen. | ||
| The chosen is like mainline Christianity. | ||
| This is going to be faithful traditional Christianity coming out. | ||
| I happen to like the chosen franchise, but I think that and what Mel Gibson's doing are aiming at two different things. | ||
| No, I really, I actually really like the chosen thing. | ||
| I know some people don't. | ||
| Some people think it's too inventive. | ||
| I actually think it's handled in a very tasteful way. | ||
| A very interesting way of making, perhaps if your imagination isn't what it once was, it's very done in a very tasteful way of helping you see how these things might have been in a non preachy way. | ||
| I very strongly support that actually. | ||
| And you mentioned the issues that Mel Gibson had, the aforementioned, we mentioned him at the top of the show, Abraham Foxman. | ||
| I don't know if he's had so much attention for years since we mentioned him on the room twice in one show, but he came out quite heavily criticizing the depiction of the Pharisees in the Passion of the Christ. | ||
| Liz Joa, I know you want to add something here, but is it true to say that one thing that particularly made the Passion of the Christ unique is that it was made by a traditionalist Catholic, which is the life of Christ made from an aspect of the crucifixion from the life of Christ made specifically by a traditionist Catholic, | ||
| trying to remain true to that devotional philosophy? | ||
| Well, you know, what they said about the men who built a magnificent Gothic, a three-cathedral where you are on the other cross on the other side of this pond is that they didn't have opinions. | ||
| They had faith in God. | ||
| And, you know, that's what I think makes this, this now, I think, franchise, thank goodness. | ||
| So magnificent is because not only did Mel Gibson really consult many, many sources, but he has a strong belief in God and the truth of the film, the truth of God, just like the magnificent art and music that was generated by people of faith that we've lost. | ||
| I mean, we haven't had a magnificent movie from Hollywood since Passion of the Christ because, you know, it's the culture has been hardened and brutalized and devoid of God and faith. | ||
| And that's what makes I'll never forget that scene where Jesus falls carrying the cross and his mother is there and she's looking him in the eyes. | ||
| I mean, to this day, I can't barely think of it without wanting to sob because it was just so powerful. | ||
| And it's coming at a time when the world seems to be searching yet again for Christ, for truth, for beauty. | ||
| And as, as, you know, jarring as Mel's movies are because they're very realistic. | ||
| They exude the beauty of the Catholic faith in the beauty of Jesus Christ and the truth that He brings to a fallen world. | ||
| It's, you know, this is what Hollywood just doesn't understand, is that you need to have the faith of Jesus Christ, the Creator, to create magnificent masterpieces. | ||
| And so that's why I'm really looking forward to it, not only on an artistic front, but also in really displaying for the people of the world the beauty of Christianity and Jesus at this moment in time. | ||
| when there was such a great, you know, they were the apostles saying, how could he leave us after only three years of preaching? | ||
| How could, you know, he why doesn't he come down from the cross? | ||
| Why, you know, he is Christ, he is God. | ||
| And this was a terrible moment, but of course the resurrection brought the great faith and hope for all of us for eternity. | ||
| So, I mean, this is not only a cultural message for us, but I think it's also a religious message. | ||
| I think we need to pray that all those forces that attacked the passion of the Christ during its making. | ||
| You know, be put aside and that Mel's vision, really grounded in his Catholic faith, traditional Catholic faith, really does come on the screen in technical colors so that we all are moved from the heart about Jesus Christ. | ||
| You came so close, Liz, you're so close to naming one of my favorite scenes in that film, which is, I think, is conjoined in the one you mentioned, but it's where Christ as a kid trips over and you see the Virgin on the pathway. | ||
| And you see, I don't know why I get the, I don't get why I get the I feel the sort of the sweat on the palm of my hands as I'm talking about it. | ||
| It sort of humanizes Christ, I think. | ||
| You see, he trips over the path, and you see the Virgin Mary sort of running his mother, running towards him to wrap him up in her arms. | ||
| And then I think, isn't that, isn't that, isn't it mixed in with the same scene as you say, when Christ trips on the stumbles? | ||
| Seven sorrows on the road. | ||
| Of the seven sorrows of his mother, the worst of which is walking along Golgotha and watching her son crucified to death. | ||
| That, to me, the Mary and Jesus in that movie was just so beautifully portrayed. | ||
| The whole film, the whole film, I mean, I have no doubt that film was inspired by and protected by the Holy Spirit more so than anything that came out of the Bergoglio papacy, every scene, every single aspect, every single frame of that film is literally perfect and untouchable. | ||
| You know, as Frank Walker said, this is going to be a catechetical moment. | ||
| And I hope the higher arts in the Catholic Church and even pastors in the Protestant Church, the evangelical church that did so much to support that film 20 years ago. | ||
| I hope they'll be on hand to use it to take the message like what that guy Dallas is doing with The Chosen, to taking Jesus Christ to a new generation. | ||
| OK, just in a few short minutes, Liz, you're going to come back and tell us about how we are apparently losing some aspects of this conversation. | ||
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| So Lizio, tell me then, if you wouldn't mind, a little bit about this, about the not so good news on the culture war front that we are apparently losing in part because of the absence on the battlefield of Pope Leo. | ||
| Yeah, this is an excellent article in The Remnant by Gaetano Masgula. | ||
| I'm talking about, you did some excellent research on really the present state of euthanasia, a euphemism, I might add, for assisted suicide, another euphemism. | ||
| But the culture of death is really taking hold in Europe, we've seen it in the western states here in america but for example in 2025 we're not even halfway through of spain had 1300 cases of loose of assisted suicide being carried out and this is the loosening of regulations um people more and more people are invited into this pool | ||
| of peril, I call it, where they are claiming that they're either dying or in mental health pain. | ||
| The regulations continue to be opening up to more and more people availing themselves of assisted suicide. | ||
| I mean, the number, you know, this is the culture of death, let's be honest. | ||
| I mean, if there are, you know, hundreds of millions of children every year being aborted, it is no surprise that we would go to the other most vulnerable population. | ||
| the elderly and And so they go through Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Switzerland. | ||
| They all have legalized assisted suicide. | ||
| And there has been virtually no pushback at all from the church. | ||
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| And you need to help me understand something here because my small brain can't, can't absorb it. | ||
| I thought that Pope Leo, who's currently enjoying these approval ratings, I think he's the most popular political figure in the United States. | ||
| Well, he's American, he's not a political figure in the United States. | ||
| But everyone would have seen the poll that came out a few days ago. | ||
| He's way up there, like plus 40, 45 points or something. | ||
| We've all seen the photos of him in the helicopter ride to this youth conference in Italy getting the rockstar reception. | ||
| So the mainstream media told us with at least a million or so pilgrims. | ||
| or tourists, whichever word you should want to choose. | ||
| I am surprised to hear that such a beloved figure isn't using some of his political capital to defend the non negotiable positions of the Catholic Church. | ||
| How can that be? | ||
| Well, because the new theology of the Catholic Church is the synodal listening, accompanying, journeying Church of Mercy. | ||
| And it is merciful not to allow people to suffer any more. | ||
| We just talked about, you know, the crucifixion of Christ in, you know, who embraced suffering and death on a cross, the worst kind of torture imaginable, so that we, human beings, the children of God, could attain salvation. | ||
| But mercy has become now the, I consider it, the absolute theology now of the Catholic Church. | ||
| We are now putting away, ignoring, censoring any readings, any teachings of John Paul II, who actually was in Evangelium Vitae, powerfully talked about and just took on these issues, as did Benedict, about assisted suicide. | ||
| They saw this happening in Europe and they were going to stand as a wedge between the culture of death and what was happening to our weak elderly and spoke valently about the importance and position of the Catholic Church and about redemptive suffering, which of course never gets mentioned anymore. | ||
| And so certainly this Pope is not going to take on the cultural issues of the globalists. | ||
| And it's all about depopulation. | ||
| Jenny talked about the LGBT agenda. | ||
| That's about depopulation. | ||
| We talked about abortion, depopulation. | ||
| This is also about depopulation, the global agenda of 2030 of the UN. | ||
| And so people, you know, and they will use language, like they use the same language of abortion to minimize it, to soften, to soften the blow. | ||
| And so we have to be absolutely, you know, critical thinkers when they talk about mercy and they're going to use and they've used mercy as the states and countries in promoting this new agenda. | ||
| I can't underline what Liz Jorge has said more, more, more strongly. | ||
| We need to stay vigilant because what is being presented to us. | ||
| It is not the Catholic faith and the most vulnerable are always first in line to suffer the consequences. | ||
| That's all we really have time for today. | ||
| We'll be back at 6 p.m. next Wednesday. | ||
| Jenny, I know has a quick point. | ||
| Jenny, you've got 30 seconds. | ||
| You had a quick point you wanted to mention with regards to the Mel Gibson film. | ||
| Well, actually, no, I'll just follow up on what Liz was just saying. | ||
| This agenda to use euphemisms and sort of fake a barbaric push in giving it the veneer of Christian mercy is just embedded in the European bureaucracy in particular. | ||
| They're trying to make out like they've uncovered a shadowy network of billionaires trying to stop what they would call reproductive rights. | ||
| This is yet another euphemism for unfettered abortion, which maybe we can get to next week because it's absolutely in line with what Liz was just saying. | ||
| I'm sure that I'm sure the powers that govern this world will keep us busy. | ||
| Let's try and make time for that next week if they don't throw any of the satanic tools down in our path. | ||
| Jenny, quickly, your social media, where do the people go to keep up with your great writings on Substack and on Twitter? | ||
| So it's jennyeholland.substack and on Twitter I am semperfemina21. | ||
| And Liz, where do people go to catch up with you? | ||
| On social media, Elizabeth, you're my substack is your children, as is my website. | ||
| And Frank Walker? | ||
| Canon 212 for the website and Canon 212 spelled all out at Twitter and also the update is at Rumble and at Gloria TV. | ||
| Frank, can I ask you, as I always do, to put the links of the stories we've talked about today on your superb website where people can go and read them at their own leisure. | ||
| I'm on Getta at Harnwell. | ||
| Folks, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| We'll be back, God willing, next Wednesday. |
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