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Episode 4686: 80th Anniversary Of The Bombing Of Hiroshima

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steve bannon

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bradley thayer

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cleo paskal

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harry s truman ▲ ● ▼		If the Japanese insist on continuing resistance beyond the point of reason, their country will suffer the same destruction as Germany.
		Our blows will destroy their whole modern industrial plant and organization, which they have built up during the past century, and which they are now devoting to a hopeless cause.
		We have no desire or intention to destroy or enslave the Japanese people.
		But only surrender can prevent the kind of ruin which they have seen come to Germany as a result of continued useless resistance.
unidentified		President Truman was at Potsdam, awaiting the results of the test so that the Allies could plan their attack on Japan, and hoping that a successful test would give him some leverage over the increasingly grasping Stalin.
		Scientists were working with components and instruments delivered just barely in time.
		It was ready or not.
		They had to commit themselves and their experiments to the test.
		July 13, they began the final assembly.
		The bomb was hooked up to a crane which would lift it to the tower.
		July 14, finally the ride to the top.
		Cables.
		cables, detonators, informer, initiator hookup.
		July 15, final dry runs, tension, everything ready.
		July 16, a rainstorm with spectacular lightning delayed the test from 2 a.m. to 5:29 a.m., just before dawn.
		Dignitars from the scientific world watched from the hills.
		Participants and watchers were instructed to lie on the ground, facing away from the tower.
		Only after the initial flash could they look at the developing fireball through welder's goggles.
		of flare in the sky signaled the final countdown
		ten, nine, eight, seven, six, five, four, three, Two...
		One!
		thud thud
		The flash was later calculated to be brighter than a thousand suns.
		Miles away, a young girl, blind from birth, saw the flash.
		Men at the site felt the heat of a desert sun.
		Then came the shockwave.
		Two GIs at the command center stood up in their excitement at seeing the boiling cloud and were knocked to the ground.
		The roar followed, a cascading thunderclap that rolled and boomed out across the desert.
		July 28, 1945.
		In Tokyo, an emergency meeting of the Japanese cabinet is summoned to consider Allied demands for immediate, unconditional surrender.
		Their decision, Mokusatsu, answer only with silence.
		August 1, General Curtis Limay outlines plans for the first atomic bomb raid.
		Because Hiroshima has no reported prisoner of war camps, it becomes primary target.
		The date for the raid is set, August 6.
		On the island of Tinian, it is Sunday, August 5, and a single B-29 is brought under armed guard to an isolated corner of Northfield.
		Sleek, stripped of all but essential equipment, a million-dollar plane is assigned to carry a two billion dollar cargo.
		Colonel Tibbetts, in honor of his mother, has named his plane the Enola Gay.
		Prime concern on this day is the possibility that the Enola Gay may crash on takeoff.
		and blow up all of Tinian.
		It is decided that the dangerous job of arming the bomb will be done after the plane is up.
		Even now, no one on Tinyan is allowed to see the bomb.
		Late in the afternoon, the squadron is given a final briefing.
		Weather planes, they learn, will precede them to the target cities.
		If the primary city, Hiroshima, is overcast, they will take the one that is open, either Kokura or Nagasaki.
		The takeoff will be dangerous because the weight of their payload is over 10,000 pounds.
		And now they learn, too, its full potential.
		It's not a thousand pounder.
		It's not a ten-ton blockbuster.
		This bomb has the strength of twenty thousand tons of TNT.
		Steaming toward home at this moment, Harry Truman knows the decision is irrevocable.
		The wheels have gone full turn.
		In the Pentagon, General Groves and his staff remain overnight, beginning the long wait.
		two thousand miles away in los alamos robert oppenheimer also waits 2.15 a.m., August 6th.
		For twelve men, Colonel Tibbetts, the crew of the Enola Gay, and the Navy captain who will arm the bomb, William Parsons, the last moments pass with bewildering speed.
		Then it's time to go, with the nagging fear that the Enola Gay might arrives
		At 8.11 a.m.
		On time.
		On target.
		It will take the bomb 43 seconds to reach Hiroshima.
		The Enola gaze strains to escape the fury she has unleashed.
		At 0 minus 15 seconds, a warning tone sounds in the plane.
		In 10 seconds, the world will shake.
		The End
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Wednesday, 6 August in the year of our Lord, 2025, the 80th anniversary of one of the most important days in the history of mankind, the first dropping of an atomic weapon or nuclear weapon.
		I have become death destroyer of worlds.
		That's from Hindu, the Gita, Vishnu, said by Oppenheimer at the very moment that in the Trinity Project when he knew the bomb would actually work.
		More than ever, this audience, since you are the adulults in the room, right?
		And are the drivers of this populist nationalist revolution throughout the world to make sure that folks with common sense, the ordinary man and woman, actually cause the shots and we don't get into any more, dragged into any more conflicts like the Second World War.
		Right there, and General Lemay, who had been firebombing Tokyo and the major cities of Japan.
		Because MacArthur and Nimitz's plan for the invasion of Japan, which they were anticipating and preparing for, was a 4 million man invasion.
		of the island over time and one million American casualties.
		And of course, within the next couple of days, the Japanese surrendered.
		I might add, it took two nuclear weapons, right, in their belief that there were more to come.
		I want to bring in Cleo Pascal, Dr. Bradley Thayer.
		Cleo, you just came back.
		from the historic launch spot of the Onola Gay.
		Give us your assessment of Tinian, the people, how important this date is in world history, ma'am.
cleo paskal ▲ ● ▼		It's a very important, obviously an emotional date for the people of Tinian, and there's a delegation from the Marianas in Hiroshima today.
		It's worth maybe going back to understand the geography of Tinian and why this was so important.
		This part of the world belonged to Japan, Tinian was part of Japan from 1914 until the Marines came through in 1944.
		You can see Saipan from Tinian, they were part of the same battle, and it took about a hundred thousand American lives to get across the Pacific to be in a position to be able to claim Tinian from where the B-29s were in raid.
		in range of Tokyo and obviously of Hiroshima and you can take off from there.
		But we saw the signs coming.
		In 1933 there was the special great exercise, an 86 day exercise run by Imperial Japan.
		The Emperor came on Titanian and on to Saipan where they built a runway, and that was the launch of it all.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Cleo, can you hang over a second?
		We're holding due break.
		I got Doctor Bradley Thayer.
		I got Cleo Pascal.
		We're going to talk about the region, the weapon, the event, the outcome, and the meaning of it today, particularly when we are repositioning ballistic missile submarines.
		When I say ballistic missile submarines, I mean nuclear.
		The ones, the boomers, that can drop the hot one in this situation in Ukraine.
		But a lot of movement there, I think, heading towards peace, although we announced today a $200 million arms package to the Ukrainians.
		Dr. Bradley Thayer, Claire Pascal.
		We also have Alex Marlowe, the editor-in-chief of Breitbart, will join us here shortly.
		Brian Harrison from Texas, a bunch of updates there in action taking place.
		General Flynn's going to be here.
		here and we're going to continue our discussion from last night on the mrna what's happening i want to thank my team for a magnificent, magnificent, magnificent masterpiece, cold open.
		Short break back in the war in a moment.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I want to thank my production crew and also the guys in Denver put together a mini masterpiece right there about 10 minutes long.
		No other show today will show you like that.
		They'll show Hiroshima, you know, Morning Jones, all over that.
		And look, obviously the victims are important, but as important are the people that had to make the decision.
		and what the information they had and they made the decision.
		Because in the New York Times, I think the headlines in the New York Times today, this day has been dedicated to peace, but you're facing a world in the Third World War.
		The kinetic part of the Third World War has already started.
		We have now, we've been told that the casualties in Ukraine are much higher than have been reported.
		So you have, I don't know, 2 million dead and wounded in Ukraine.
		You have, I don't know, over 100,000 in Gaza.
		They're talking about in the Times of Israel, not Breitbart or not the War Roomers reporting that the son of Netanyahu is tweeting out that there's a mutiny and a coup going on by the chief of staff of the IDF because they are adamantly opposed.
		The Israeli army is adamantly opposed about an occupation of Gaza.
		They say they're too worn out, they can't do it.
		And so these wars are only heating up.
		They're not dying down.
		They're heating up as much as President Trump has done a magnificent effort to try to do it.
		They are inexorably building steam, can't deny what the reality is in both of these situations.
		And of course, the main thing, the Chinese Communist Party continues to do rehearsals for an invasion of Taiwan.
		So, doctor, so Cleo Pascal, pick up where you left off about Tianjin, the importance of it, the importance of the launch, all of it, man.
cleo paskal ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So in 1933 in this great exercise, because you're talking about when is it an exercise and when is it a practice run?
		And 1933 we had the first takeoff of a plane in Micronesia, and that was part of this Japanese exercise.
		And they also had the Civil Military Fusion going on, where they originally said that it was a sugar factory building a baseball field, but it was actually a runway.
		So we're starting to see a lot of the same parallels in the way that Japan was in placing itself, the way that it was covering over exercises, the Civil Military Fusion component of it with the Jap Chinese activity across the area.
		Tinian itself was once liberated by the Americans, actually, is about the shape of Manhattan, shape and size of Manhattan.
		And so when the CBs rebuilt it to be able to put in the Northfield runways that were where the Enoligay took off from, they actually renamed all the streets after streets in Manhattan.
		So if you go to Tinian today, you get there's a Central Park and a Broadway, and it's a little bit of America.
		But you're also seeing the Chinese casino relics.
		You're seeing the money coming in.
		And I am extremely concerned about that.
		that what you're actually seeing on the ground now in parallel to what you saw in the 30s is the coming in of the Chinese businesses that are going to be used by domestic politicians, including people like the Deputy Assistant Secretary that we've spoken about and the woman representing Tinian who is from Tinian in Congress to go for economic independence,
		which leads to independence of the Marianas and maybe with a compact of free association like you see with the others.
		And then you have exactly the same situation that you had 75 years ago, we're right off Guam, 60 miles from Guam, you have a sort of independent place under the control of an aggressive Asian power.
		And that proximity to Asia that allowed the Enoligay to take off and be in range would also allow in the other direction the US security or US vulnerability.
		So understanding exactly how we got to this point 80 years ago where the US could be in a geographic position to defend itself from an aggressive Asian power and that geographic position has been held on to for eighty years, including through a plebiscite that made the people of Tinian and the rest of the Marianas decide to join the US, is now at a critical point where this may not be the case anymore in five, ten years down the line.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		And we've lost over a hundred thousand men just to fight our way to get there, just to get there.
		You lost a, and probably some of the worst combat in the history of the United States, and particularly the Marine Corps, which was in the Navy, which were absolutely magnificent in that entire campaign.
		Dr. Bradley Thayer, there's a lot of criticism, you know, by people who don't know better, who have studied history., don't understand what's going on, but, oh, the United States was barbaric in doing this.
		And today on Morning Joe, you get the whole United States is the bad guy, the United States is evil.
		Put in perspective what today means, sir, in reality, not in beatnik like fantasy.
bradley thayer ▲ ● ▼		Sure, Stephen, great to be with you again.
		Four quick points.
		First, it was the immediate cause.
		The atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the immediate cause of the end of this horrific war.
		And as a result, it saved many hundreds of thousands of American lives and many millions of Japanese lives who would have been killed in what was called Operation Downfall, which was to be the invasion of Kyushu and of Honshu in November of'45 and March of'46.
		So, secondly, it realized the victory for which so many Americans and Chinese, of course, and Australians and British, Dutch, Filipinos had died and their sacrifice.
		You had about 364,000 Americans killed and wounded and missing in the Pacific War alone, and not counting about 27,000 Americans who were POWs in Japan, who would have been executed if the invasion of Japan had occurred.
		It also kept the Soviets from getting an occupation zone because if the war had gone on, the Soviets would have invaded essentially the northern part of Japan and would have had an occupation zone.
		And thankfully, MacArthur said no when after the war they asked for one.
		Next, it was the dawn of the atomic age, right?
		This is August 6 is significant because it's the dawn of the atomic age in which we live, in which we encountered the Cold War, of course, and the world that we face today.
		It also underlines the need for a strong industrial base for the United States to possess.
		The triumph of American in science and industry that made possible the atomic bombs as well as the B-29 to deliver the atomic bomb were done about four years, Steve.
		Four years to do both the Manhattan Project and the B-29, and that organization really helped so much to underline we have and must have a strong industrial base as we move into the future in the war against the Chinese, then the confrontation against the Chinese Communist Party.
		And lastly, it defined the nature of the war in the Pacific, where and those lessons are salient today, right?
		That is, we face a formidable enemy in the Chinese Communist Party.
		There are tremendous distances.
		Islands matter, in obviously, in the Pacific.
		In essence, this is the reverse Senkong, right?
		Today we face the prospect of high intensity great power warfare against a peer in the People's Republic of China.
		And you need to have a very strong navy, very strong air force, of course, in order to deal with that adversary.
		And we're not in that position today, sadly.
		And that is what we see today, sadly.
		So, august 6, 1945, the 80th anniversary, allows us to appreciate the sacrifice.
		It allows us to appreciate the lives saved by that.
		EB Sledge in his famous book with the Old Breed, his memoirs of the Pacific campaign in Pelelu and Okinawa, in which he was involved with the First Marine Division, right, underscored that the atomic bomb saved him and saved his, essentially, his comrades because they were going to get killed in the invasion of Japan.
		They knew it.
		They expected it.
		And so again, hundreds of thousands of American lives saved and millions of Japanese lives saved as a result of this conflict, when the bombing.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		When you read Sledge's book, it's written when he's a professor at the University of Alabama, I think it was, I think it was an English professor in his old age, but it's about his thinking as a young man.
		I think he was 17 or 18 years old with the old breed.
		You read that book, you're going to understand why they dropped the bomb.
		Also, people should remember, which they constantly confuse, an atomic bomb got dropped on Hiroshima, and they didn't.
		surrender.
		They didn't surrender.
		There was a huge fight of the Imperial Japanese High Command, the Emperor, all of it.
		And they were still, even after the second atomic weapon was dropped on Nagasaki.
		My point is there were some very tough ombres in the Japanese High Command that just said, Hey, we're going to fight to death.
		We'll just fight the Americans the entire way.
		We don't care how many they drop.
		So it was a this was not a done deal after the first.
		Think about that destruction and the destruction of their people.
		And they said, bring it.
		We have to bounce.
		Cleo Pascal, can I give you a question're putting up content all day.
		This is a very important part of the world.
		We're focused on it, particularly the investigations that are going to start.
		Where do people go, ma'am?
cleo paskal ▲ ● ▼		My ex is my name, Cleo Pascal, C L E O P A S K A L, and get her is real Cleo.
cleo paskal ▲ ● ▼		Thank you for covering this, sir.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		No, this is vitally important, particularly for the Warren Posse.
		They're going to be the siders, right?
		They're driving the political narrative here, which we're going to get into in a moment, from Texas to this, the grand jury and all that.
		So, doctor Bradley Thahayer, where do people go for your content, sir?
bradley thayer ▲ ● ▼		Custina, Brad Thayer at X and Bradley Thayer at Getter and Truth.
		Again, thank you very much, Steve.
		As Cleo said, for covering this really historic day, of course.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Historic day.
		We owe this to the greatest generation and to mankind that the Warren Posse, the backbone of the MAGA movement, is reflective on this day.
		We'll take a short commercial break.
		We've got Brian Harrison in Austin, Texas, and Alex Marlow, the editor and chief of Breitbart News.
unidentified		next I would just ask you, you are broadcasting right now to an international audience, people right around the world who simply won't understand gerrymandering.
		They'll say, This is cheating.
		This is unfair.
		If you're in favor of it, can you explain why it just shouldn't be handed back to the voters, these kinds of decisions?
		Why, Jerry, you believe in gerrymandering?
brian harrison ▲ ● ▼		Well, so I wouldn't phrase it like that.
		I wouldn't say that.
		I wouldn't say it like that.
		But what I would say is I agree.
		We are a democratic republic here in the United States.
		And in our states, the way it works, and this is true here in Texas, the voters don't vote on every issue on their own, they elect people like me and 149 others in the Texas House of Representatives to be their voice, to be their fighter for the things that they believe in.
		And it is incumbent on the 150 of us in the Texas House of Representatives to show up, to do our job, to roll up our sleeves, and to vote or debate or amend, but to do the hard work of governing on behalf of the people of Texas.
		And so that's what I'm trying to do here, is to say we got elected.
unidentified		So you don't have an issue then with what the Democrats have done in Illinois.
unidentified		You don't have an issue with gerrymandering.
brian harrison ▲ ● ▼		Well, what I have an issue with what's going on in Illinois is not that they..
		have their legislature has written maps that they believe are appropriate for them.
		My issue is with the hypocrisy that Illinois has done a much more aggressive redistricting map that much more heavily favors the Democrats than the maps that the Texas Republicans are considering right now.
		So there's no one in Illinois that with a straight face can criticize anything that the state of Texas is doing, because quite frankly, we're redistricting much less aggressively for the purposes of political advantage than Democratic states like California, New York and New York and Illinois.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Brian Harrison joins us because of the War in Posse and Brian Harrison at the tip of the spear.
		This is the number one political story in the world.
		Brian, after your hits on international, particularly BBC, I literally was contacted from people all over the world because that goes out on BBC internationally, globally, and particularly to decision makers all over the world.
		Greg, tell me, what is your sense that the international media is actually worse than the American media?
		I mean, they're like totally clueless.
		You have to go back to basics for them.
		So how have they handled it so far?
brian harrison ▲ ● ▼		Well, they basically handled themle them the same way I've had to handle CNN and other liberal mainstream media outlets for the last week as well.
		It's sort of like, how dare you Texans do something that the voters of Texas want you to do?
		Because we don't like what you're doing, therefore it's somehow evil and morally repugnant and wrong, and you should cover your face in shame.
		Screw that.
		Thirty million Texans elected me and 150 other people to come down here and do what they want.
		That's what we're trying to accomplish down here.
		And every one of these, you know, hypocrites, dishonest, cynical, showboating, sham democrats from, from, from Governor Pritzker to Governor Newsom and the Democrats and all those states that have been radically and in extreme fashion gerrymandering their states for the last ten years.
		They don't have a leg to stand on in terms of, you know, criticizing what we're doing down here in Texas.
		Because even the maps, if we pass the maps that we're trying to pass right now, we would still be less gerrymandering than New York, California, and Illinois.
		So spare me the faux outrage.
		Okay, these leftists, these radicals, these socialists, they have no problem with states redrawing maps to maximize party political advantage.
		They're just angry that a Republican state is trying to do it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Big time.
		The Massachusetts and I knew when this started, when we had that meeting a couple of weeks ago and say we got to focus on this for the grassroots that it would cause a range war.
		Massachusetts came out today and my point is, hey, bring it.
		You already Illinois and CNN never covered it all.
		Illinois is the most gerrymandered, well not one of the most gerrymandered states.
		Massachusetts, they're going to take away all the Republicans, although I think Trump lost 5248.
		Fine, bring it.
		You know, bring it.
		Let's throw down now and have it out.
		I'm 100%.
		I'm Go ahead.
brian harrison ▲ ● ▼		No, no, yes.
		CNN got very angry with me.
		Because I actually, when they were criticizing our redistricting, I held up a map of Illinois and I put it in the camera and I told the host, I was like, Did you or anyone at CNN ever drag Pritzker, put his face on TV and say, Defend Illinois 13, which is a map, the district is like the size of a pinky that runs all the way across the entire state.
		And then CNN didn't like that very much, so they brought me back on, I was on 15 minutes with Caitlin Collins, the first 15 minutes of her show.
		And they did their best to fact check me to say, No, no, no, we covered it.
		But every clip they showed wasn't one single excerpt of CNN ever asking any Democrat in any Democrat state, legislator or governor to defend the gerrymandering.
		that's been going so unintentionally, CNN proved the point that you and the posse and I all know to be true.
		These Democrats, it's nothing but projection.
		That's what's going on right now.
		Pure hypocrisy.
		These people are fundamentally dishonest frauds.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, one of the reasons you've been the leader of this and done such a great job, there's rhetoric and there's performance art and then there's reality.
		The Republican establishment has to understand, we're getting this done, okay?
		And it just can't be talk, we're going to do this, we're going to do that.
		Go through a Brian Harrison special.
		You put out a punchlist of what has to be done, and there's a lot that can be done, right?
		Let me just walk through the punchlist of what you're recommending, because last night your recommendation that, hey, if they want to hang out in Illinois and we can't get to them, if the long arm of the law can't get to them, then every week you're out, we pick up another seat, right?
		So walk me through this punchlist, and people love that, the posse love that.
		So walk me through exactly what Brian Harrison's punchlist for the Republican establishment to get done here in the next 24 to 48 hours.
brian harrison ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, happy to do it.
		And I'll go one step back in time.
		In fact, my staff is shooting over two years right now a very short video, because context is everything here.
		I'll go through the list of things that I would do if I were the governor or if I were the speaker.
		But we got it back up a couple of days because it's not like the Democrats sneaked out of town and nobody saw this coming and did it, you know, despite the best efforts of Texas Republican leadership to keep them here.
		The opposite is true.
		The Democrats, you know, fled the state with the full cooperation of the establishment Rhino leadership of the Texas House.
		And in fact, I can prove it.
		Nobody has to take my word for me.
		It was just seven days ago.
		We were on the floor of the Texas House.
		We had the maps filed.
		They were in the system.
		We had the Democrats in town.
		The Democrats were on the floor of the Texas House.
		We were in the chamber.
		We had an official quorum.
		All we had to do was was what the Speaker did a few days ago, which is to make a call to the House, which basically says, You can't leave, and if you do, you're going to be arrested.
		He didn't do that.
		Instead, what did our Rhino Speaker do?
		He adjourned the House after only seven minutes.
		I screamed at the top of my lungs, objection.
		He ignored the objection, gaveled them out, opened the doors on Wednesday so they could literally walk down the hall of the Capitol into the open arms of Hakim Jeffries, who had flown down here from Washington, DC.
		So you got to start there.
		The Republican This is as much of a failure of a Republicanans had wanted to stop this from happening, they had all the tools they chose to let the Democrats leave.
		So that's number one.
		But number two, let's put that aside for a second.
		Now we are where we are.
		They're hiding behind Governor Pritzker and Gavin Newsom and in California, they're all over the place, okay?
		Number one, we should start with the basics, okay?
		The parking spots, okay?
		Until the parking spots are gone, I know you're not even pretending to try, okay?
		Not one parking space, okay, has been revoked, okay?
		Seniority.
		These people care about their seniority because that's how they get on their committees.
		That's how they get their big, uh, palatial office spaces, okay?
		But let's talk about the big action.
		There's a lot of talk from the governor and other people about vacating their seats and having special elections.
		Well, as of a week since the Democrats last had quorum, there have been zero seats vacated.
		Zero.
		We've had civil arrest warrants signed.
		We've had zero arrests.
		Okay, I want seats vacated now.
		I want arrests made now.
		I want charges.
		These people may well have committed criminal bribery offenses.
		That those legal proceedings need to get started right now.
		And one thing that's going to shock, well, maybe the posse knows this, but most people across America don't know this.
		Democrats hold powerful committee chairmanship in the state of Texas.
		Yes.
		Imagine if Nancy Pelosi or AOC were chairman of Ways and Me means.
		You know, and AOC was energy and commerce.
		I mean, that's literally what goes on here in the state of Texas.
		Not one Democrat chairmanship has been revoked, okay?
		Their budgets should be cut.
		So even if we can't fire the Democrat staff, we have the power to not pay them.
		So why are the Democrat staff all being paid while their bosses, you know, are outside of the country?
		We haven't had one single office defunded.
		And then, yeah, what I'm calling the Harrison proposal, you mentioned it.
		Let's play hardball.
		I'm sore of the Democrats being the only ones that fight aggressively for the future of this country.
		Republicans should be fighting as hard to save America as the Democrats are on destroying it.
		And for every one week you're gone, we're adding one more Republican seat to the map.
		So you want to be gone one week, cool.
	We just went from plus five to plus six.
	You're gone two weeks.
	We went from plus five to plus seven.
	Let's play fire or fight fire with fire, as Gavin Newsom said.
	I want to do that too, but more aggressively.
	And then, and then finally, the easiest thing we could do, because it doesn't involve the courts, there's no legal questions.
	This is purely whether they want to use the power they have or not.
	If I'm the Republican Speaker of the Texas House, as long as I'm the Speaker, if you're a Democrat and you're abdicating your constitutional responsibilities, any bill you ever want to pass that has your name on it, dead on arrival.
	It will never see the light of day in the floor of the Texas House.
	And if I'm the Governor of the State of Texas, this is super important easy for Governor Abbott.
	Say to those Democrats right now, everyone of you that hasn't shown up, any bill that has your name on it, automatic veto, don't even bother sending it to my desk.
	That would make a difference.
	The Democrats would pay attention to action right now.
	But right now, the Democrats in Illinois, California, and New York, I can watch them on TV.
	They're literally mocking the elected Republican leadership in the state of Texas.
	It's embarrassing.
	It's infuriating.
	Texans want bold action.
	They're sick of tough rhetoric and no actions.
	It's time to change this.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's words and deeds.
		Now we need deeds.
		So the Warren Posse, we're going to get this in the Harrison proposal.
		And we're going to call the governor and we're going to call the Speaker of the House.
		What would you like us to say when people call and say, Hey, we want to put forward, we want to play smash mouth, you gotta start disciplining these Democrats.
		What would you like the Warren Posse to say as an opening when they talk to these folks?
brian harrison ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, one simple thing is, and you can use the tweets, I think your staff has got it.
		I mean, if you want to push that out there.
		I mean, every item on that list, ask them, Yes.
		Why has none of these things happened?
		I mean, all we have right now is a flurry of effectively strongly worded letters.
		Where is the action?
		Where is the beef?
		You know, as the old commercial used to say, like, where are the arrests?
		Where is the defunding of the office?
		Why the hell haven't you taken their parking spots away?
		I'm talking the basics.
		Oh, and by the way, I have it on very good authority that there are multiple Democrats still residing within the boundaries of the state of Texas and that elected leadership in Texas is aware of this.
		Those are the low hanging fruit for arrests.
		Why have there been no arrests made if Democrats are in fact residing within the bounds of Texas?
		And if you're the, you know, the governor speaker, why haven't you promised to kill every business bill of every one of these Democrats that has flooded the state.
		That there is no question as to the authority of that.
		Some of these things I know there are lawyers on both sides.
		Okay, well, this might take a court proceeding.
		That might not take a court proceeding.
		The facts of the matter are the governor could kill and veto every bill by any of these Democrats.
		Why hasn't he promised to do that?
		Why hasn't the Speaker promised to kill the bill of every Democrat?
		Why hasn't the Speaker taken their chairmanships away?
		Ask him why they haven't done these things.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Even, even, we're going to get on it.
		We're going to get everyone up on the ramparts in the next hour.
		But here's the thing.
		Even if it could be a court proceeding, drive the action.
		Be the protagonist here.
unidentified		Right.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Be the protagonist.
		Drive the action.
		You're absolutely right.
brian harrison ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And the left, okay, we're it's like people talk about asymmetric warfare and geopolitics all the time.
		What we've got for not just in Texas, but in a country, and Stephen, you know this, it's been this asymmetric warfare where the Democrats have no limiting principles.
		They will stop at absolutely nothing to achieve whatever their leftist, you know, totalitarian, authoritarian goals are.
		Meanwhile, the Republicans are all like, well, there might be a legal question.
		We're probably right, but I don't, we don't want to get sued.
		Guys, it's time to wake up, smell the music.
		It's 2025.
		It's World War Three out of our window.
		The left is coming to destroy our country.
		They want to bankrupt the next generation.
		They want to destroy the blessings of the freedoms and liberty of prosperity that our fathers fought and died for, it's time to fight as aggressively against the left as the left is fighting against our country.
		I'm sick of being back, you know, weak establishment Republican politicians.
		Democrats are playing hardball.
		It's time Republicans fight back.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Watch your Twitter.
		We got to bounce 10 seconds.
		What is it?
brian harrison ▲ ● ▼		At Brian E. Harrison on X, at Brian E. Harrison, at Brian E. Harrison on X. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Alex Marlow joins us.
		We're very fortunateate that in this fight, which is on multiple fronts, right, we got the Texas Now, it's a nationwide redistricting, right?
		And it's the number one political story in the world.
		Right next to, we have a grand jury, I believe, in South Florida on the on this seditious conspiracy, treasonist conspiracy.
		You're going to have the House come back, all of this.
		You got not just Epstein, you got everything on the treasonist conspiracy and Russia Gate.
		And you got 150, 175 lawsuits on President Trump's Article 2 power.
		They're all interconnected.
		And they're interconnected because this is how the Democrats are going to run now, because they can't beat you at to the polls.
		And now that we've got people like Seagal Chatta in Nevada, the new U.S. Attorney that says on local TV last night with the interviewer, she's now the interim Attorney General.
		You know, what are your priorities?
		Election integrity.
		They fully melt down because they know it's going to be harder to steal elections.
		Alex Marlowe has written that battle plan.
		It's called Breaking the Law, exposing the weaponization of America's legal system against Donald J. Trump, in which President Trump on the cover says it's a must read.
		So, Alex, you just heard Harrison both with the BBC and then on the war room down in Austin.
		Your thoughts, sir?
alex marlow ▲ ● ▼		Steve, think about this when you joined up with Bright Bart, well, when was it, twelve years ago or so, and Andrew's there, and Andrew is fighting to try to make conservatives cool and fun and make sure that we're not scolds.
		And now we got Sidney Sweeney in the jeans, and the left is like, You guys take her, and we're like, Okay, that sounds great.
		And then now we have the Republican establishment, completely irrelevant here, and you got guys like Brian out there going on BBC, and the BBC saying, Well, isn't this unfair that we're gerrymandering?
		And then Brian just goes, I don't care.
		I literally don't care at all.
		I was elected to serve a constituency of people and they want this and I'm going to deliver it for them and anyone who's not with me is no longer a part of the core Republican movement.
		That's the answer we wanted.
		We've been dreaming of this and now it's here.
		We're fighting now and we're fighting with a smile on our faces.
		It couldn't be better.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Couldn't be better.
		This is what Andrew's always dreamed of.
		It's just and we're playing and we're playing smash mouth.
		Talk to me about the book.
		The book sets the battle plan here of what the environment is.
		You make specific recommendations, but you also frame this that it's kind of one stop shop.
		People can get up to speed on exactly what these different verticals are.
		Walk me through it.
alex marlow ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Thank you for that, Stephen.
		You had a great quote last night night on your show where you called it a primer.
		And it is that.
		That's partially what it is.
		And where I started was just, no one has really pieced together these cases.
		There were six key cases against Trump.
		He had to win all these cases.
		He didn't have to win them.
		But he'd at least survived them while he was running for president, running for president from a courthouse because of massive election interference that was controlled from the top, from Joe Biden White House, blatantly illegal, needs to be investigated.
		And we need to start seeing some heads roll over this thing.
		However, no one can really sort out the six cases in their head.
		Julie Kelly can.
		But most people can't do this.
		And I tried to write something so that people could actually understand the extent of the law fair, the extent that is connected to the other hoaxes of our time.
		One of the things that I really want to highlight to you and the posse on the show today was the Stormy Daniels case, the one case that ended in convictions, criminal convictions for Trump, never should have happened.
		The reason why that case ended up in a conviction was because of the Russian collusion hoax.
		Michael Cohen was a key subject of the Russia Gate investigation.
		The government was able to get access to his Gmail account, the Justice Department and the special counsel from Robert Mueller's investigation.
		All of this started with the Russia Gate hoax.
		If there is no Russia Gate hoax, there is no Stormy Daniels conviction, which by the way, we got to throw out all those convictions on that front.
		But the point is no one understands the.
		interconnectivity of all of the lawfare.
		It is from a superstructure.
		It's a massive apparatus.
		I explained the apparatus, who funds it, what they're doing now, how it's connected to the Bosebergs of the world.
		This is their only way to stop the MAGA agenda right now, and they're working 24-7 right now to do it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Here's the thing.
		The Republican establishment, so many of those are lawyers and tied into these big law firms, they are particularly hesitant.
		You see this in the Bill Barzone role.
		This is an area they're particularly hesititant to get involved in and you can see this down in Texas, what's happening right now.
		Walk me through that.
		This is the most important area for Democrats.
		It's the tip of it's where they're really their weapons are pointed at us, you know, down range right at us, yet the intellectual legal elite of the by large, right, of the Republican Party doesn't want to touch this.
		You get the Mike Davis's, you get the Boris's, you get the Harrisons, you get the fighters, but the white shoe Republicans don' not want to touch that?
		Why is that?
alex marlow ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but it's because of all the money.
		It's because they've taken all these loans.
		They've gone through the system.
		And then now, finally, they can make some money.
		And they're not going to be welcomed in a polite society if they take on jobs for President Trump or connected to the conservative movement.
		And it takes bravery.
		It takes bold leaders right now.
		I like you talking about you being the hero.
		You got to think of yourself as the main character in this.
		And advocates, conservative advocates, have to stand up, have their voices heard right now because there is a massive effort to blackball conservative attorneys, people who work for Trump and help President Trump.
		And we're not just talking about keeping you out of the best firms.
		We're talking about making it so that you might not even be able to practice law at all.
		They look for ways to disbar you.
		They look for ways to make sure that you're not welcome anywhere.
		And this is a massive problem with the legal infrastructure and the superstructure that they built.
		And it is a real threat because we need the best attorneys as well.
		But that's why people need to stand up.
		Cancel culture was a phase.
		We're blowing past it.
		And the legal world is going to have to deal with that right now.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Alex, can you hang on for a moment?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I want to keep you through the top of the hour.
alex marlow ▲ ● ▼		Whatever you got.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		General Flynn is also going to join us, but I need to keep Alex Mueller here.
		You've got to get this book.
		One more time before we end this segment, the top of the hour, I want to know where people are going to get the book, where they are going to get all your writings, where they get access to you and access to this amazing primer on this war that we're fighting now.
alex marlow ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Thank you.
		Breaking the Laws Out Now released yesterday, and I appreciate the plug, Steve.
		It's really kind of you, but I think that this is a book that I wrote needs to be written because I think this thing can really help the Republic because this is the number one threat to MAGA.
		This book is a warning.
		It's not just a history lesson.
		This is a warning about what's going on right now as we speak, connecting the dots and calls to action for all of you.
		We need the grassroots to get behind the effort to try to be engaged and involved twenty four seven.
		We cannot sleep.
		We are at war right now.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		An exquisitely timed book, the primer that we need.
		And you're absolutely correct.
		And you see in Texas, when the Warren Posse and the grassroots of Texas get their back, put their back to the wheel, their shoulder to the wheel here, great things happen.
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alex marlow ▲ ● ▼		Short break.

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