July 28, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| I had the privilege of going to his island and I did turn it down, but a lot of people in Palm Beach were invited to his island. | ||
| In one of my very good moments, I turned it down. | ||
| I didn't want to go to his island. | ||
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Next time you speak to Metanyaku, what will you ask him to do? | |
| Say it what louder? | ||
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Next time you speak to Metanyaku, what will you ask him to do? | |
| Well, I'm going to say, look, we're giving money and we're giving food, but we're over here and we're over in the United States. | ||
| And I think I can speak for the Prime Minister. | ||
| We're giving money and things. | ||
| He's got to sort of like run it. | ||
| Well, I want them to make sure they get the food. | ||
| I want to make sure they get the food, every ounce of food. | ||
| I think you want the same thing. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Because that food isn't being delivered. | ||
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Mr. President. | |
| For at least all of it. | ||
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You said you were going to set essentially a TRS for the rest of the world, but the world. | |
| For the world. | ||
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What percent will that clarify? | |
| I would say it'll be somewhere in the 15 to 20 percent range. | ||
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So maybe the TM or 20 or 200. | |
| No, I said, you know, I sort of know. | ||
| I just want to be nice. | ||
| I would say in the range of 15 to 20 percent. | ||
| So UK and steel banks. | ||
| one of those two numbers. | ||
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The U.K. and steel, the aluminum makers here are worried about the tariffs. | |
| Aluminum. | ||
| You're a pretty big aluminum maker. | ||
| Yeah, that's already covered in the deal that we've agreed, so we're just doing the implementation of that. | ||
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But Mr. President, when will that come down from 25% to zero? | |
| You mean on the overall, on the world? | ||
| On steel and aluminum from Britain. | ||
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It's 25%. | |
| Well, we're going to know pretty soon. | ||
| We're going to have it pretty soon. | ||
| You have no idea that these people are tough negotiators, okay? | ||
| But we're a big buyer of steel. | ||
| But we're going to make our own steel, and we're going to make our own aluminum for the most part. | ||
| But we buy a lot of aluminum from right here, and a lot of steel, too. | ||
| Who are you with? | ||
| Who are you with? | ||
| Because you're asking such a nice question. | ||
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TVUs, better than GBUs. | |
| Very good. | ||
| They're lucky. | ||
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We have a lot of unhappy farmers in this country at the moment, and I'm sure the Prime Minister wants to thank me for raising this. | |
| We've had changes to inheritance tax, which means a lot of farmers feel they're going to lose their farms when they die of their farm levels. | ||
| How important are farmers to a country? | ||
| mean they're going to lose the farm because of estate taxes? | ||
| So what I've done... | ||
| Well, they're cash poor. | ||
| They're land rich and cash poor. | ||
| I've had, sometimes I'm land rich and cash poor. | ||
| Sometimes I'm cash rich and land poor. | ||
| I like it both ways, but as I get older, I like the more conservative. | ||
| So I did something that I don't know if you can do, but it was great. | ||
| I love our farmers. | ||
| As you know, in our tax bill, we have a clause that's very important. | ||
| We were losing a lot of farms to the banks because a loving mother and father would die and left their farm to their children or their child, but their children, their family. | ||
| And they love their family and they thought they were doing them a favor, but they had a 50% tax to pay. | ||
| So the land would get valued and at a high number because some of the farms were valuable, but they didn't, you know, they couldn't quantify it. | ||
| And they'd go out and borrow money to pay the estate tax or the death tax, as it's called. | ||
| And they'd overextend and they'd lose the farm. | ||
| And they'd commit suicide in many cases. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Our levels are nowhere near 50%. | ||
| They're not. | ||
| We've just introduced where it's paid over many years works out an extra 2% a year over 10 years. | ||
| So it's not at those levels by any stretch of the imagination. | ||
| But the other thing that we've done, as you know, is make sure that we've got a pathway for farmers that actually increases their year-on-year income, which is the most important thing. | ||
| And in all of the deals that we do, we ensure that our farmers are the central focus for much of it, particularly on the agriculture, including in the US deal, because I don't think we can go on for years saying that it's acceptable for farmers to have a year-on-year income which isn't sufficient. | ||
| We've got to fix that problem. | ||
| We can't simply live with that problem. | ||
| So it's a very different situation. | ||
| Well, we ended the estate tax. | ||
| There is no estate tax on farmers. | ||
| So when a parent leaves their farm, because again, a lot of these farms, they don't make a lot of money, but it's a way of life, and they love their way of life, and they love that dirt. | ||
| Dirt is the most beautiful thing they've ever seen. | ||
| They love it. | ||
| I mean, they're farmers. | ||
| They love doing. | ||
| They don't know how to do anything else, but they don't want to do anything else. | ||
| I speak to farmers. | ||
| I say, would you like to live in my penthouse in Manhattan? | ||
| It's always beautiful. | ||
| No, sir, I want this farm. | ||
| And what happens is, I mean, we were losing a lot of people to suicide. | ||
| They'd buy, they'd borrow money to pay the estate tax, and they were not able to pay it. | ||
| And some banks are ruthless, they wouldn't do anything, and they would end up committing suicide. | ||
| We have totally ended the estate tax in those situations. | ||
| So there's no estate tax. | ||
| So when a parent leaves the farm to the kids, they don't have to worry about their local, possibly unfriendly banker coming in and stealing their farm. | ||
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I don't. | |
| I don't like anything about it. | ||
| They shouldn't be allowed in. | ||
| Anybody illegally should not be allowed in the country. | ||
| Thank you all very much. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Okay, right there. | ||
| President of the United States with the Prime Minister of England, Starmer Sirkir, still at Turnbury. | ||
| President's going to leave, I think, this afternoon. | ||
| Already did a great interview with Matt Boyle. | ||
| He'll be up sometime in the next, I don't know, day or two. | ||
| Heading to his properties in farther north in Scotland, his new golf properties. | ||
| We'll cover all of that. | ||
| We've got a very special guest. | ||
| I think it was fantastic coming this morning, Nigel Farage, but we want to do a cold open for Nigel. | ||
| It's been a tremendously important weekend for him. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play the cold open and we'll bring Nigel into the war room. | ||
| One of the things I think that has sort of really led to deterioration of trust in politics are successive Home Secretaries telling us crime is falling. | ||
| You hear it every year: crime is falling. | ||
| So please don't worry your poor little heads. | ||
| Well, that's because the crime survey for England and Wales is based on completely false data. | ||
| If you look at police recorded crime, which is what we've done for our research all through this, you can see that actually there are some significant rises in crimes of all kinds, particularly crimes against the person. | ||
| We're actually facing, in many parts of our country, nothing short of societal collapse. | ||
| People are scared to get out of the shops, scared to let their kids out. | ||
| That is a society that is degrading, and it's happening very, very rapidly. | ||
| I'm astonished that there has been so little debate in Westminster amongst our political classes on this issue, because I'm sure they must, in their MPs' inboxes, get members of the public telling them just how grim things really are. | ||
| Sarah mentioned the word respect. | ||
| Respect for those in uniform has declined massively. | ||
| The criminals don't particularly respect the police and can act in many cases with total impunity. | ||
| Just as worrying, if not more so, is huge numbers of law-abiding tax-paying Britons have also lost respect for the police, but in a different way. | ||
| The idea, the concept that we're living in a system of two-tier policing and two-tier justice under two-tier care has really taken hold. | ||
| You know, I always watch and see who buys the New York Post because it tells me that people want an alternative to people like you or me, right? | ||
| They want an alternative. | ||
| They want the Trumpian view. | ||
| And maybe they want to expose themselves to the Trumpian view so they can expose the weaknesses they've got. | ||
| But also, to be honest with you, the country is moving towards Trump. | ||
| These polls that come out and show him not doing well, I don't buy that. | ||
| I think his strength is still greater than Democratic strength. | ||
| He is a stronger public figure than the Democratic people. | ||
| I mean, Obama still has tremendous charisma, but Trump has strength. | ||
| And I think that's what all voters look for. | ||
| But they want a president who's a strong figure, and he's got it. | ||
| And he can, you know, it's just there. | ||
| And half the country buys it. | ||
| That's what I think. | ||
| Do you think he'll go for a third term? | ||
| No, the Constitution won't permit it. | ||
| I believe, I've been wrong before, but I believe in John Roberts and the court and Amy Coney Barrett. | ||
| And I think they're going to, we'll have it seven to two on the elections coming up in 26 and 28. | ||
| I think we'll have it seven to two or six to three on the 14th Amendment and birth citizenship. | ||
| I think when it comes to the core of the Constitution, we'll be okay. | ||
| If we're not, we're really going to be in trouble. | ||
| I mean, if the Constitution doesn't mean anything, if the words don't mean anything, what's the purpose of mentioning it? | ||
| Now, in terms of policy proposals. | ||
| Yep, I'm going to reiterate the point. | ||
| Zero tolerance policing. | ||
| Every single shoplifting offence, however small, should be prosecuted. | ||
| Every single mobile phone that is stolen, if we can track it, we need to go to the addresses and find out who these people are. | ||
| Stop and search. | ||
| Stop and search in areas where knife crime is prevalent will go on up until saturation point until we drive knives off the street. | ||
| And believe me, this is a policy that I know from my campaigning recently around the country, supported by people right across the political spectrum. | ||
| And if we have to build more knife arches at the entrance to train stations or bus stations, whatever it may be, then we will do it. | ||
| Fast track arrest. | ||
| We believe that is very, very important. | ||
| And if we have to open pop-up custody suites and centres around the country, we'll do so because many police stations, police stations not just closing in huge numbers around the country, but many police stations, including a local one in Clacton, have lost their custody suites. | ||
| So we believe that fast-track arrest holding people is right. | ||
| And perhaps the biggest pledge that would make today is to save 30,000 more police over a five-year term of a parliament. | ||
| And we will scrap all diversity, equality, and inclusion roles. | ||
| And we will aim for a higher and physically tougher standard of police officer. | ||
| Monday, the 28th of July, Euroverlord 2025. | ||
| Trump has strength. | ||
| That's from Chris Matthews. | ||
| The country is going Trump's way. | ||
| If you talk about strength, you have to, in the same sentence, bring in Nigel Farage, one of the closest people to President Trump. | ||
| Nigel, thank you for joining us. | ||
| The polls show the reform movement, I don't know, 2X, the Tories, fastest growing party in the West, I think, in history. | ||
| But when Nigel Farage talks about societal collapse, people listen. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Is this tied to the immigration? | ||
| What is this tied to? | ||
| You know, you guys, and particularly you, got the United Kingdom's sovereignty back in June of 2016 as the predicate for Trump's incredible come from behind victory in November. | ||
| Here we are nine years later, and President Trump's cutting deals, really restructuring the world's commercial relationships, closing our borders, starting the mass deportations. | ||
| And England is in societal collapse. | ||
| How does that work out, sir? | ||
| Steve, good morning. | ||
| Well, getting back our sovereignty was crucial. | ||
| But once You've got back your sovereignty, you then have to exercise it in a way that's in the national interest. | ||
| And sadly, our political class is completely and utterly rotten. | ||
| We have a Labour Party and a Conservative Party, but frankly, I think they should just be called the Uni Party because there isn't really very much to choose between them. | ||
| And yes, law and order is collapsing. | ||
| Respect for anybody in uniform, for any form of authority is collapsing. | ||
| Behavior, I mean, it's hard to believe. | ||
| If you go into the West End of London, you take areas like Chelsea, Knightsbridge. | ||
| I mean, these over the years have been some of the most expensive pieces of real estate in the world. | ||
| Beautiful historic architecture, amazing retail stores, restaurants, pubs, schools, you name it, a really, really top piece of London. | ||
| I'll tell you what, Steve, if I saw you in London and you said, I'm going down the King's Road and I saw you wearing a watch, I'd say, please take it off. | ||
| Otherwise, you'll be attacked. | ||
| You might even be killed because somebody will want that watch. | ||
| Women now, in the middle of the day, don't wear any jewelry for fear of being mugged on the streets. | ||
| And by the way, if you want to go shoplifting, that's absolutely fine. | ||
| You can now shoplift up to £200 worth of goods in a grocery store or whatever it is, and you will not face prosecution. | ||
| Why is it happening? | ||
| There are several factors, but there is one absolutely overriding factor. | ||
| Piece of a stat out today that over the last seven years of sexual assaults and rapes in London, 40% have been committed by people not born in this country. | ||
| And if you take the picture bigger, an Afghan male that has moved to Britain illegally or legally is 22 times more likely to be convicted of rape than somebody who was born in this country. | ||
| And so the message is not that all immigrants are bad. | ||
| It's not that everybody from the rest of the world is dreadful. | ||
| It is that when you have an immigration policy, you have to choose. | ||
| You have to, yes, and dare I use the word, I will, you have to discriminate and get the right people coming in. | ||
| We have boatloads of people coming across the English Channel. | ||
| Tory and Labour government's too gutless to deal with it. | ||
| And so many of these people are going on to commit horrible crimes, which is why you've seen the big protests going on outside migrant hotels. | ||
| So the reason, the reason that I call it societal decline is that mothers don't want their kids to go out and play. | ||
| People can't wear a watch in the street. | ||
| There's a sense of fear. | ||
| That is societal breakdown. | ||
| Now, in the late 90s, I lived in Knightsbridge. | ||
| The West End of London is absolutely extraordinary. | ||
| In fact, the whole city back then was extraordinary. | ||
| Nigel, which is such a shock about how quickly this collapse has come, but it's obviously tied to the immigration, both legal and illegal. | ||
| Here in the United States, we're now ramping up and we're having a huge debate, although we just passed a bill that has $170 billion in it to get ready and build the infrastructure for mass deportations. | ||
| In your punchlist of law and order. | ||
| I missed the part about deportations. | ||
| Is getting your arms around the immigration situation, and particularly there's a certain subset of folks that just have to leave the United Kingdom? | ||
| Is that part of it? | ||
| Yes, those that have come here from overseas and have committed crime. | ||
| Completely unacceptable. | ||
| Those that have come here illegally, been smuggled into the country in the back of a lorry or they've come on a boat. | ||
| No, we have to establish this. | ||
| And I'll tell you something, Steve. | ||
| We will get, for this policy of deporting those who should not be here, we will get considerable support from immigrants who've come to Britain legally, gone through the system, paid their money, because they see this as being totally unfair and totally wrong. | ||
| So yes, of course. | ||
| I mean, look, unless you deport people, there is no disincentive to come illegally. | ||
| So of course, that is absolutely at the heart of this. | ||
| Our particular problem that America doesn't suffer from is that although we had Brexit, Boris Johnson and others kept us part of something called the European Convention on Human Rights. | ||
| And that is something that is used by left-wing lawyers to prevent virtually any deportation of somebody who doesn't want to go. | ||
| So we've got some legal steps to go through first to clear ourselves to do it. | ||
| But yes, the message must be clear. | ||
| Come illegally, you will be deported. | ||
| Nigel, the polling, I saw a poll the other day. | ||
| Matthew Goodwin put it up. | ||
| We had him on Saturday and had an extraordinary session with him. | ||
| I think you're at 34% in reform. | ||
| I think Labor and the Tories combined are barely that. | ||
| Are people coming to the reform movement and coming to you particularly because of what Chris Mastews talked about as strength? | ||
| Is the political class, both labor and Tories, so feckless or the ruling class of the United Kingdom just given up on defending the country that people are now looking to you as a tower of strength, sir? | ||
| Well, I think people have progressively been giving up on the Labor and Conservative parties over the last couple of decades. | ||
| I think with me, my messages, Steve, have been consistent for well over two decades. | ||
| People know pretty much where I stand on the major issues of the day. | ||
| And I kind of get this. | ||
| Do you know what, Nige? | ||
| I haven't always agreed with you, but at least you stand up for what you believe in. | ||
| At least you tell us what you think. | ||
| At least we know you're a patriot and you believe in the country. | ||
| And so I think, Frankly, standing up for values, values that we might have called old-fashioned a few years ago, but values now, which if they're not reasserted, we frankly won't have a country worth living in in 10 years' time. | ||
| So I think that's behind it. | ||
| And yes, strength in the sense of conviction, strength in the sense of having been right for a long time, despite an awful lot of abuse and a lot of violence directed against me. | ||
| I mean, what you're seeing here is the most astonishing political change this country has ever been through. | ||
| You know, the Conservative Party have been, you know, a party of power for 200 years. | ||
| The Labour Party have been a party of government for over 100 years. | ||
| And of course, our electoral system is very much the same as yours in America. | ||
| So to think of an outside party coming in and, as you say, in some polls, getting as many people opting for us as the other two combined. | ||
| No, something very, very big is happening here. | ||
| Because the media in England is at the absolute worst, and it's shocking as Englishmen, you really don't have free speech. | ||
| It's pretty stunning. | ||
| Is the message getting through at all about what Trump has done here with the shortcomings of this term? | ||
| He's doing trade deals. | ||
| He's working on everything. | ||
| And we're still yet to get to the mass deportations. | ||
| Has the word gotten out about how he sealed the border? | ||
| We literally have no illegals coming across. | ||
| he's doing a just a stellar job of getting the criminal class out. | ||
| Is that starting to get... | ||
| To some extent, but only, I'm afraid, to some extent. | ||
| I mean, if you think the BBC are doing, you know, big, long, five-minute documentaries on how Trump sealed the border, you'd be in for another thing. | ||
| You know, don't hold your breath on that. | ||
| But to some extent, and certainly Trump is much more popular here than he was during his first term when it was wall-to-wall opposition. | ||
| I think even outside the magnificent Turnbury Golf Club, when he arrived last night, there were sort of three protesters that turned up or something like that. | ||
| So, oh, and one of them was saying, don't trust Keir Starmer. | ||
| So I think that he has gained a lot more respect. | ||
| And I think also, you know, people can see with Trump, the one message that has got through is that Brexit was the right thing to do. | ||
| And because of that, we as America are able to strike better terms with you than we're going to with Brussels and the European Union. | ||
| So that side of it certainly is getting through. | ||
| And I think the impression that he's a genuine friend of ours, I think that's succeeding as well. | ||
| As for the border, many other things, well, I'm afraid much of our media is just too biased to tell us that story. | ||
| The New York Times had a page one story, I think, on Sunday morning, talked about the situation in the United Kingdom as President Trump went there and ended with a quote from me that I said, all the push-polls in Christendom can't change the fact that Brexit happened, you have your sovereignty back, and the United Kingdom's never going back to the EU. | ||
| That statement got a lot of play over here. | ||
| Do you believe that statement's true? | ||
| I believe it's true, but what Keir Starmer's trying to do is piece by piece realign us towards the European Union in many, many areas. | ||
| And the biggest criticism of Brexit isn't the fact we did it. | ||
| It's we haven't actually taken advantage of it in as many areas as we should. | ||
| Politically, we're not going to rejoin, but the next government will have to undo some of the things that Keir Starmer has done. | ||
| And by the way, I don't know whether an American audience realize just how catastrophic Sakir's first year in government has been. | ||
| I mean, this man believes in absolutely nothing other than having the keys to the door of number 10. | ||
| Downing Street, he flip-flops, he U-turns. | ||
| But the one direction he does take us in is government gets bigger, control gets bigger, two-tier policing and justice becomes more obvious, and free speech becomes ever more threatened. | ||
| And we've just, in the course of the last 48 hours, had the Online Safety Act come into effect online. | ||
| And for example, footage of protests against migrant hotels were being censored from all the social media platforms yesterday. | ||
| So, yeah, whilst the man may not know what he really believes in, what he does believe in is big government and control of what we think and say. | ||
| Isn't he, though, emblematic of the political class, even the Tories? | ||
| And this is why reform is at 34%. | ||
| Both of those combined are barely 34%. | ||
| And you were looked at as a tower of strength. | ||
| And that's why I think the timing of your societal collapse speech was so powerful. | ||
| I mean, isn't he emblematic of the fecklessness of the entire political class and really the ruling class and elites of the United Kingdom, sir? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you know, I just mentioned the Online Safety Act coming in over this weekend, Steve. | ||
| But who drew up the legislation? | ||
| It wasn't Labour that drew it up. | ||
| It was the Conservatives that drew it up. | ||
| So really, when you're talking about our traditional parties here, they are the political class. | ||
| There is very, very little to choose between them. | ||
| And yes, people are coming to reform because they can see we're standing up for liberties. | ||
| We're standing up for freedoms. | ||
| We're standing up for things, you know, that previous generations made massive sacrifices to defend. | ||
| And our current bureaucratic media and political class seem to be prepared to surrender. | ||
| So, yeah, I think conviction, I think strength, but most importantly, and here's the key to why we're doing well, here's the real key to why that poll said 34%, optimism, a belief that with the right leadership, we can turn our country around and get it back on track. | ||
| And sometimes they say, oh, well, reform voters are protest voters. | ||
| Well, they've got a lot to protest about, but no, you know, they could just say we're staying at home. | ||
| we've given up. | ||
| They're not. | ||
| They say, we're backing Varage. | ||
| We're backing reform. | ||
| And we're doing it with joy in our hearts because we believe we can turn this round. | ||
| Nigel, where do people keep up with you? | ||
| Social media, website, all of it. | ||
| Where do people go? | ||
| If you go to nfarage.com, nfarage.com, you'll find it all there. | ||
| Nigel, thank you so much. | ||
| Grace and Mobile, please. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Really extraordinary. | ||
| One of the great, if you study English history, you study history of the West right there, and Nigel Farage, one of the greatest political leaders in the history of the United Kingdom. | ||
| One of the greatest. | ||
| He got single-handedly after decades of hammering on leaving the EU. | ||
| He was the leader, not Boris Johnson. | ||
| He was the leader on Brexit to get their sovereignty back. | ||
| And now, after taking a couple of years out of politics to get back into politics and really start a MAGA-type reform party in the United Kingdom, and the polling is just stunning. | ||
| Part of it's a strength. | ||
| A big part of this is constancy. | ||
| Nigel has not changed. | ||
| He's dug in since the late 1990s on what the United Kingdom needed to do. | ||
| And this is a lesson for the West. | ||
| This is what they're less than President Trump. | ||
| President Trump also, the weekend, a massive trade deal with the EU. | ||
| They finally blinked. | ||
| Plus, and I'm going to get Harnwell on here from Rome, kind of a throwdown with Putin in about now. | ||
| I think we're at 12 days, not 50. | ||
| Actually, in the 50, we're probably down to 40. | ||
| But President Trump says I need to hear something on 12 to 15 days. | ||
| So also in Gaza. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
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| We're trying to teach you how to fish, not give you a fish. | ||
| And I think it's worked out pretty well. | ||
| We're going to have more free installments. | ||
| We also have a bunch of announcements of what we're going to do after Labor Day when people get back to the Imperial Capitol. | ||
| A lot going on. | ||
| We're going to go to Texas. | ||
| This redistricting, now it's going to Florida. | ||
| That is massive. | ||
| A couple of things here. | ||
| Also, Senate's getting ready to leave, and there's, I don't know, a couple of hundred at least confirmations that haven't been done. | ||
| Senator Lee and people are saying, hey, we got to do it before we leave. | ||
| I got a better idea. | ||
| Let's just have a recess, an actual technical recess, and have mass confirmations, recess appointments. | ||
| They're good for a year and then work it out for the year. | ||
| Also, the Senate's getting ready to have an omnibus on September 30th of this year, a one-year omnibus that has another massive deficit in it. | ||
| Where are our pocket rescissions? | ||
| Where are the rescissions? | ||
| Where's the impoundments? | ||
| We've got to back up the White House, got to back up the folks over there that want to have some pretty big cuts to spending. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| I think we're going to go to Rome. | ||
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| Look, our audience knows this thanks to you and thanks to Devin Unez. | ||
| Our audience is well aware of what took place here, but we want to see accountability. | ||
| Many of the statute of limitations have expired. | ||
| It's been almost 10 years for many of these folks who did this. | ||
| But John Brennan testified to Congress, and so did Hillary Clinton, within five years. | ||
| I think it was in 2020 and then again in 2021. | ||
| Are those statute of limitations still live? | ||
| Tell me if, in fact, we could see a criminal prosecution here, as you just the other day, three weeks ago, have in fact referred criminal referrals to the DOJ. | ||
| Well, Maria, so part of what came out last week was about how John Brennan, Clapper, Comey, they all pushed the known fake steel dossier into intelligence community assessments and as the basis for crossfire hurricane and all that. | ||
| But what hasn't come out yet and what's going to come out is the underlying intelligence that I have spent the last few months making recommendations about final declassification and sent that to the Department of Justice that will come out in the John Durham Report Classified Annex. | ||
| And what that intelligence shows, Maria, is that part of this was a Hillary Clinton plan, but part of it was an FBI plan to be an accelerant to that fake steel dossier, to those fake Russia collusion claims by pouring oil on the fire, by amplifying the lie and burying the truth of what Hillary Clinton was up to. | ||
| And you're right, Maria. | ||
| John Brennan testified to John Durham in August of 2020. | ||
| He also testified to the House Oversight Committee in 2022. | ||
| Hillary Clinton testified before John Durham under oath in 2022. | ||
| James Comey testified before the Senate Committee in September 2020. | ||
| All of that's within the last five years. | ||
| And much of that testimony is, frankly, completely inconsistent with what our underlying intelligence that is about to be declassified in the Durham Annex what that reflects. | ||
| And so, you know, Pam Bandi does have a strike force. | ||
| It is a different Department of Justice, a different FBI, and an opportunity to look at how these people really did conspire to run a hoax, a fraud on the American people and against Donald Trump's presidency. | ||
| And so coming forward, we understand that they did this, but now we need to understand how they did this. | ||
| And I think that's why you see the left losing their minds over this, Maria, saying, why are you spending time? | ||
| This is vindictive. | ||
| You're going back. | ||
| This is Donald Trump seeking retribution. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| Donald Trump's election by the American people was a statement, Maria. | ||
| They said to everyone, we know what you did to Donald Trump, and we re-elected him because we know this was all fake. | ||
| We know it was a hoax. | ||
| Now we want to understand how you did it so that it can't happen again. | ||
| And that's what this declassification process that we're undergoing right now, what's going on, why it's so important, and why there can be accountability and preventability to prevent these same people that did it in 2016 with the Steel dossier, with the Hunter Biden laptop in 2020 from doing it again in the future. | ||
| If you're talking about Trump winning the election in 2016 and you then turn around and show proof that there was a concerted effort by the Obama administration to derail his presidency, that creates problems. | ||
| Not from the typical scandal stuff. | ||
| And listen, I remember when the Republicans were trying to disrupt Clinton's presidency by living on a Monica Lewinsky situation. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And essentially, you had libertarians going all crazy and all of this other stuff. | ||
| He lied. | ||
| He lied. | ||
| And he did this in the Oval Office. | ||
| That's what they were saying. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But it did lead to Clinton losing his law license, ability to practice law for several years. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And obviously it was a scandal that really, really stained his presidency to some degree, even though he won back-to-back elections. | ||
| So we understand that. | ||
| But you can't ignore scandals like this because if it involves the CIA, if it involves the FBI, if it involves the weaponization of law enforcement in this country, then we got a problem. | ||
| We got a problem. | ||
| Now, do I believe that it's an evasive measure? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Do I believe it's distractionary on the part of the Trump administration to get everybody's mind off the Epstein files? | ||
| You're damn right, I do. | ||
| Of course I do. | ||
| Of course I do. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But the reality is that that doesn't mean it's false. | ||
| And if it's not false, and indeed there is a level of veracity attached to the allegations and the assertions articulated by Telsey Gabbard, Donald Trump himself, and others, then we've got a problem. | ||
| Graham is now suggesting that there's new, all these years later, new evidence has materialized that would warrant this sort of investigation. | ||
| Can you fact-check him? | ||
| No, there is nothing new here. | ||
| And our colleague Dan DeLuce, an NBC reporter, spoke to the CIA officer, the senior officer who oversaw writing these reports, the main report about what happened in 2016. | ||
| And she said that Tulsi Gabbert is lying and the White House is lying. | ||
| This talk of Obama and treason on the plot is false. | ||
| And if you look at the report, whether it's the Senate intelligence report or the initial assessment, it's that Russia intervened in the election to denigrate Hillary Clinton. | ||
| It was Putin's personal animus towards Hillary Clinton. | ||
| You know, full stop. | ||
| And I just want to say they keep mentioning the dossier. | ||
| I was a reporter for Reuters at the time. | ||
| We had the dossier. | ||
| Most mainstream journalist organizations had the dossier during the 2016 election. | ||
| We didn't write a word about it because we couldn't verify it. | ||
| The dossier was not an issue in the 2016 election. | ||
| So it's all these talks of plots and all these things like that. | ||
| And I can just say in terms of the dossier and journalists that had it, we didn't write about it. | ||
| And again, the author, the person who oversaw this report said that Tulsi Gabbard is lying when it comes to a treasonous plot. | ||
| John, if I can add something. | ||
| David just disputed the factual basis for what Lindsey Graham was saying. | ||
| Let me take on the legal one if I can. | ||
| Calling for a special counsel investigation here is almost laughable because the Supreme Court's presidential immunity decision would preclude any prosecution of President Obama for treason based on his official acts. | ||
| The only reason you would want a special counsel here is to continually put him and other people under the microscope in the hopes that it would lead to something else, all a whitewater style, right? | ||
| That Ken Starr starts investigating one thing, ends up with a Monica Lewinsky-like situation. | ||
| But in any event, for the most part, that presidential immunity decision is broad. | ||
| It gave Trump protection against two federal cases, and it should prevent against any prosecution, much less an investigation of former President Obama. | ||
| But the weaponization of intelligence agencies to pull that off brings on an entirely different problem. | ||
| And if the Democrats are found to have been guilty of this, really creating this story, that's not good. | ||
| Because you have a whole bunch of people skeptical about politics to begin with. | ||
| And you got to remember, Trump is in office because he's considered the anti-politician. | ||
| His behavior, his mannerisms, his language, his verbiage, his actions to some degree are very apolitical. | ||
| It's not typically what you see from conventional politicians on Capitol Hill. | ||
| And then when you think about how they went after him and they engaged in lawfare to take him down, the 34 felony counts and convictions and all of this other stuff, they're going to say, see, see, he wasn't guilty of any of this stuff. | ||
| They did everything they could to derail him from being the president because the mission was to keep him from getting back into the White House. | ||
| It wasn't that he did this or did that. | ||
| They're going to say it's all a hoax. | ||
| They're going to bring up the Hunter Biden scandal with the whole laptop controversy. | ||
| And they're going to say from 2016 to 2020 to 2024, each and every single time they were lying and they were engaging in unsavory style behavior that adds credence to the argument that we've been making against them. | ||
| There's no truth to any of this stuff. | ||
| They just wanted to derail the presidency. | ||
| Number 45. | ||
| And they wanted to big up Biden. | ||
| And they're going to point out how when he was on stage, as one pundit said, looking like an elderly individual in a nursing home waiting for his applesauce, but they were talking about him like he was lucid and cogent and alert and all of this other stuff. | ||
| They're going to point that out. | ||
| See Jim Jordan on the air the other night? | ||
| You see these reporters? | ||
| I mean, they're not playing. | ||
| This is not going away. | ||
| Okay, note to White House Comms Department when Stephen A. Smith is your best surrogate. | ||
| That was pure fire. | ||
| He's a street guy. | ||
| He laid it out exactly how people in America think about this. | ||
| What we need to do is to make sure that we promulgate this constantly, constantly, constantly. | ||
| The great Matt Boll joins us right now. | ||
| Matt, you just finished an interview one-on-one. | ||
| I put it up on Caroline, tweeted it out. | ||
| I put it up on my getter. | ||
| Talk to us about the president. | ||
| Pretty historic day there in Turnberry, sir. | ||
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| He dropped out. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| Let's go ahead. | ||
| Ben, let's see if we can reboot Bull, although he tells me his signal is not great. | ||
| If we can get it up, we'll try. | ||
| Matt Bull just did a 101 interview with the president. | ||
| Want to get that up? | ||
| Harnwell, I've got you on here. | ||
| President Trump just threw down on the Russians and got Ukrainian. | ||
| But give me your sense of this Tulsi Gabbard, because this is everything. | ||
| We've got to stick the landing here. | ||
| And now you're having people like John Ratcliffe. | ||
| And you saw the CIA right there. | ||
| Write this down, folks. | ||
| He threw the FBI. | ||
| That was the CIA throwing the FBI under the bus. | ||
| Harnwell, Stephen A. Smith, the best surrogate we've got on this, brother. | ||
| What are your thoughts? | ||
| Well, starting off with Stephen A. Smith, I don't want to cast my cynical BD eyes on this one too soon in my hit, Steve, but I can't help draw the conclusion that he's preparing a pitch to be the Democrat nominee as he throws the whole of the Democrat establishment under the bus. | ||
| Of course, the points he make, absolutely correct. | ||
| And quite sensibly for someone who's thinking, presumably thinking about hijacking the Democrat Party to make a run, he's very much trying to pit himself in the mould of the Democrats' answer to Donald Trump. | ||
| We'll see how successful that is. | ||
| But he says a lot of things, I think, that people on both sides of the camp will believe, certainly with regards to the total lack of moral integrity of Joe Biden and the regime that supported him in the media. | ||
| Mainstream media will always remember Joe Scarborough's, I speak to this guy regularly and he's as sharp as a tack. | ||
| How that guy still has a show on network television, I have no idea. | ||
| It's Mika's show. | ||
| It's Mika Show. | ||
| Hang on for a second. | ||
| It's Mika's show. | ||
| You're going to stick with us. | ||
| We've got a lot to go through, particularly the fact that Ukraine launched an attack 325 miles into Russia last night. | ||
| I think if Ben Harnwell's mask correct, Moscow is only 250 or 300 away, so it shows you they can reach anywhere. | ||
| And President Trump just gave a wake-up call to Putin after he signed it, after he got the framework for his EU deal. | ||
| He told Putin, hey, upon further review, it's not going to be another 40 days. | ||
| Let's make it another 10 to 12. | ||
| And you got to shut this thing down. | ||
| We got to get a ceasefire. | ||
| We have to have peace. | ||
| Ben Harnwell's with us. | ||
| We're going to try to get a strong signal and get Matt Bull up. | ||
| Orrin Cass also joins us. | ||
| Brian Harrison down at Texas. | ||
| I wish I had good news for you, folks, in this redistricting. | ||
| I'm not so sure I do. | ||
| And that is a problem. | ||
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| Here's your host, Stephen K. Battle. | ||
| Okay, welcome. | ||
| I think we've got a signal with the great Matt Boyle. | ||
| Matt joins us. | ||
| Matt, you just left Turnbury. | ||
| You've been with the president for the bylat. | ||
| Walk us through. | ||
| Give us a highlight of the interview and what's your sense of things over there, sir. | ||
| Yeah, and we'll be publishing the interview starting tonight and throughout the week on Breitbart. | ||
| But we spent about an hour with President Trump before Prime Minister Strommer of the UK arrived at Turnbury. | ||
| No questions were off the table. | ||
| All topics, we basically covered everything, right? | ||
| So we talked a lot about trade, a lot about peace deals, a lot about immigration. | ||
| President Trump was extremely excited about the new ceasefire agreement, unconditional ceasefire agreement reached between Thailand and Cambodia, which was announced just minutes before he walked into the room with us. | ||
| In addition to that, obviously extremely excited about the European Union trade deal that he just negotiated that was announced last night. | ||
| And in particular, when he walked in, he was on the phone with his Treasury Secretary and was giving him directions to Secretary Beston as he's about to meet with the Chinese Communist Party in Stockholm, Sweden. | ||
| So President Trump and his top lieutenants Are fanned out around the world right now trying to put America first, and they are trying to really advance his agenda. | ||
| And that's a big part of the conversation that we had. | ||
| And I think people are going to be really excited to see the core elements of the interview. | ||
| We also talked a lot about immigration. | ||
| World leaders are coming around. | ||
| Even Kierke Garmer was sounding very, he's a liberal guy, right? | ||
| But he was sounding very tough on immigration. | ||
| That's one of the things I asked President Trump about. | ||
| And in addition to that, even John Kerry admits that Donald Trump was right about immigration and comparing that up against Democrats back home in the United States and just how extreme they are on the issue. | ||
| Yeah, you know, we opened the show with Nigel. | ||
| We took the whole, you know, our press briefing, press available, and we had Nigel on because he put out over the weekend, societal collapse. | ||
| And as you know, reforms at 34%, it's combined with labor and the Tories are about this very topic. | ||
| One of the bombshells that came out today, the EU deal had a, I don't know, almost a trillion dollars, I guess, of purchasing of American energy vis-a-vis Russian energy. | ||
| The president then also said he called an audible, did he not? | ||
| He said, hey, I think Putin's got to get back to me on the ceasefire in, I don't know, 10 or 12 days, not the 40 that are left on the 50 I originally gave. | ||
| Is that something you covered or just give me your thoughts on that? | ||
| Because that's a bombshell. | ||
| Get into the Putin thing in the interview because, I mean, frankly, we covered a lot of ground on a lot of other topics. | ||
| But in the bilateral agreement, President Trump sat there and took questions for nearly two hours from reporters, both on Kier Starmer's way-in and after their meeting. | ||
| They brought the entire press pool out. | ||
| And the president just sat there and rolled and took questions on everything from whether Turnbury is going to host the British Open to immigration to Russia, putting the heat back on Putin to a ton of questions about Gaza from reporters. | ||
| And I was in the room for all of that. | ||
| The core members of his team were there for all of this as well. | ||
| I saw Stephen Miller and Carolyn Levitt as well were there for this. | ||
| But I mean, again, what a moment here. | ||
| The president is firmly in command. | ||
| I mean, he's put together what he's done with these trade deals, Steve, he's pulled together more than nearly 60% of world GDP has now entered trade deals with the United States under President Trump in this first six months of this administration. | ||
| I mean, that's incredible, right? | ||
| Like, I mean, this EU deal last night, in and of itself, the U.S. and EU is about 44% of world GDP added in Japan, Indonesia, Philippines, and the United Kingdom here, which was the first big deal. | ||
| You're at 60%, right? | ||
| Like, it's 57%, something like that, of world GDP. | ||
| The president's put together a global alliance and he's putting the boot down on China, right? | ||
| Like, I mean, I think that's abundantly clear, right? | ||
| He's putting the boot down on China and really aggressively coming up against them. | ||
| And that's why he's got Bessin over there. | ||
| And again, I asked him if he is willing to meet with Xi Jinping directly, and he said that he is. | ||
| So I would imagine that a meeting between President Trump and President Xi of China is in the off very soon. | ||
| I think it is. | ||
| Matt, what's the vibe over there? | ||
| We were told there's going to be all these huge protests. | ||
| It looks like people greeting the president, at least at Turnbury, was overwhelming. | ||
| These people coming out in Scotland just to see him. | ||
| It looked like almost a MAGA crowd going over West Palm Beach over the bridge. | ||
| What's been the sense of the place with President Trump since he started this a couple of days ago? | ||
| Yeah, so we flew into Edinburgh a couple days ago. | ||
| And then we were in the process of getting down here to Turnbury, and we're on our way back to Edinburgh tonight. | ||
| But we've gotten a real sense of the country, right? | ||
| Like, so we've traveled throughout the whole country. | ||
| We've talked to people all over. | ||
| Look, Scotland's not the most conservative place in the world, right? | ||
| Like it's pretty liberal, right? | ||
| Like a lot of people here don't like the president's politics, but I will say everyone that we've met to a person is extremely polite, right? | ||
| Like, so there's a politeness here. | ||
| My grandparents are from Scotland. | ||
| I've never actually been here before, and it's been an honor to come over here and do this interview and to cover this stuff and really get to know these people. | ||
| But the fact is, I had no idea that people were so polite here. | ||
| I don't know if this is just a new thing, but almost everybody we're talking to knows that we were going there to interview the president and whatnot. | ||
| And some people agree, some people don't. | ||
| But I don't think that there's this radical left like you see at home in the United States when you see the violent protest like in Los Angeles or Philadelphia or something like that. | ||
| It's not here, right? | ||
| Like people are polite. | ||
| They may disagree with them. | ||
| You know, when you heard it from the prime minister, President Trump doesn't like wind energy, right? | ||
| Like, and there's a lot of windmills around, believe me, we've seen them too, right? | ||
| He doesn't like the windmills. | ||
| He thinks they're terrible. | ||
| I agree with him 100% on that, by the way. | ||
| But the fact is that the British Prime Minister was asked about it, and so was President Trump during the bilateral press availability not that long ago that we just left. | ||
| President Trump ripped the windmills very aggressively, and Kier Starmer defended the windmills, right? | ||
| Like, but did so very politely. | ||
| So it's just a different, I think it's a different attitude here. | ||
| It's a respect for the United States and for President Trump that he probably didn't have in his first term. | ||
| Matt, we got to bounce. | ||
| I know you do too. | ||
| Where do people go social media and when will the interview be up? | ||
| Yeah, just follow me at MBoyal1 on Twitter, X, and at RealMatt Boyle on TrueSocial. | ||
| And we're going to get it out as fast as we can, but we're doing a bunch of travel logistics because we've got to get back to Washington for our big event with Secretary Betson on Wednesday. | ||
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| Matt Boyle. | ||
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| Big event on Wednesday with Secretary Betsy. |
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