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July 23, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4652: Guilty Of Treason; Rebuilding The AI Industry By Putting The American People First
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john solomon
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josh hawley
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mike davis
10:43
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steve bannon
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donald j trump
01:31
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keith boykin
01:06
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lisa rubin
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ryan j reilly
01:27
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tulsi gabbard
03:10
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abby phillip
00:51
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alex wagner
00:46
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brad todd
00:47
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chris hayes
00:40
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lara trump
00:08
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willie geist
00:36
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chris hayes
The office of the presidency, our office did not normally dignify the constant nonsense and misinformation flowing out of this White House response.
These claims are outrageous enough to merit one.
These bizarre allegations are ridiculous and a weak attempt at its distraction.
Nothing in the document issued last week undercuts the widely accepted conclusion that Russia worked to influence the 2016 presidential election, but did not successfully manipulate any votes.
These findings were affirmed in a 2020 report by the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee led by then Chairman Marco Rubio.
I did think the Marco Rubio mention there was well played.
alex wagner
Yeah, I mean, that is the thing.
His Secretary of State signed off on all of this.
But you and I know this, Chris.
Trump is now on the other side of not just Marco Rubio, but Dan Bongino and Cash Patel, and to some degree, Tulsi Gabbard.
Like when those are the normies in your administration and you're on the other side of them, that tells you something about why these kind of oval office, you know, shooting from the hip threats need to be taken a little bit more seriously than in season one when it was just kind of a clown show.
Now, I mean, I was outside the jail on January 20th, Chris.
Like, I saw a kind of standing army get released out into the cold.
And that was serious.
This is all serious.
It's ridiculous and transparent, but it's also very serious.
abby phillip
Yeah, but he's accusing a former president of treason.
Right.
And on top of that, saying, it may not be right, but I'm going to go after them anyway.
What is he talking about?
And what kind of country are we living in if that is actually what he is doing?
brad todd
Well, first off, I thought the key part about President Obama's quote was that the Russians did not actually manipulate any votes.
So wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
In the immediate aftermath of the 2016 election, you could hardly find a Democrat who was not screaming that Russia rigged the election.
abby phillip
It has been eight years since the immediate aftermath of the 2016 election.
brad todd
In fact, Obama is now the Democrat mythology.
abby phillip
As you know, there have been multiple reports.
There's been a major bipartisan Senate report that was led by Marco Rubio, who now works in Donald Trump's administration.
We have known for many years that the Russians did not manipulate the votes.
brad todd
They didn't even influence votes.
They had intentions of meddling in the election.
keith boykin
Why are we talking about this?
This is not the issue.
You're trying to avoid this subject.
brad todd
President Obama said that Russia did not manipulate the votes.
We should note that.
Because every liberal in America said that was the case.
keith boykin
You noticed everything you possibly wanted not to talk about the fact that the president of the United States, the current president of the United States, just accused a former president of treason and suggested a prosecution of that former president with no evidence.
That is the problem.
brad todd
You can call him a problem.
That's the problem.
keith boykin
No, I'm not going to call him that.
brad todd
I don't think I'm going to be able to do that.
keith boykin
But why don't you talk about that instead of talking about Obama?
brad todd
Because Obama just unbroken three years of Democrat mythology.
unidentified
What?
keith boykin
Please let's not talk about this.
I don't want to talk about your distractions.
The problem is, this is what Trump does.
He distracts everybody.
He's talking about President Obama because he doesn't want to talk about Epstein.
He's talking about the Washington Commanders and the Cleveland Guardians because he doesn't want to talk about Epstein.
He releases the Martin Luther King files because he doesn't want to talk about Epstein.
He's doing everything possible except talking about Jeffrey Epstein because he's trying to throw up distractions so that people like you, Todd, to come on TV and try to distract him.
brad todd
I have tried to agree with you that you're violently not letting him.
keith boykin
I'm not doing anything violent.
I've said he's killing me.
brad todd
He's not guilty of treason.
He shouldn't be prosecuted.
willie geist
Is DOJ going to pursue this?
ryan j reilly
Well, remembering that this all goes back to 2016 is, I think, the key thing here.
So if you're talking about statute limitations, I think is the first thing that comes to my mind when you're talking about all of this, even if there were any validity to any of the allegations that were being made.
But I think you're right to highlight the president's words there and how extremely out of line they are in terms of the normal procedure for the Justice Department and for the White House.
Normally, there has been more of that break between the White House and the Justice Department.
And what we've seen during this administration is sort of a shattering of those norms and them sort of working extremely closely together and Pam Bonnie sort of taking direct directions directly from President Trump.
So that's just a very unusual circumstance that we're in here.
But this is, I think, one of the, having that response from Obama is certainly something that sticks out here because he has been quiet in the past, but I think it speaks to just how unusual some of these statements are coming.
Remember, during when Donald Trump was actually being prosecuted for two separate federal crimes, which were ultimately, of course, those cases were dismissed after he was elected president, giving longstanding precedent.
The White House under Joe Biden was very careful about what they were saying about that ongoing case.
And for a president to come out and declare someone guilty of a crime which they haven't even been charged with is really, I think, sort of really outside of the normal, way outside of the normal procedures that we would see here.
donald j trump
Director of National Intelligence, Oh, Wiz Tulsi.
She's like hotter than everybody.
She's the hottest one in the room right now because she found out with certainty.
I think we knew it before, in all fairness, Tulsi.
But now you have certainty.
She has all the documents.
She has everything that you need.
And she found out that Barack Hussein Obama led a group of people and they cheated in the elections and they cheated without question.
It's not even a quote.
Would you say there's even a little question there, Tulsi?
She says no.
And you found things that nobody thought we'd ever find.
And I'm very happy and very honored to have you with us.
She's right now by far, Speaker.
She's hotter than you right now, Speaker.
She's the hottest person in the room right now, Speaker.
So Tulsi, great job.
And I know you have a lot more coming.
She told me you've seen nothing yet.
So I heard those rumors about you, but now I know they're true.
So we're very proud of you, Tulsi.
They cheated so badly.
And ultimately, it led to a loss in 2020.
And it shouldn't have been a loss.
It was a big victory.
We won by a lot.
We had to do it again.
But if I thought we lost, I would never have run again.
And this is a far more consequential election than it would have been if we did.
That's the only thing I can say in favor of it.
But we can't ever let that happen again to our country.
They don't give up.
You know what?
brad todd
And so we can talk about this so the cows come home.
unidentified
This is not on top of my pen.
abby phillip
talking to the wrong folks, Kevin.
keith boykin
He's the one who's talking about all these irrelevant things.
donald j trump
I'm just telling you.
unidentified
Why don't you say, take this message to the Oval Office, Kevin.
keith boykin
I've got to touch the president.
Donald Trump stop talking about the president.
brad todd
You're not a fan of Trump at all.
keith boykin
Yeah, but don't talk to him.
You think that we should be talking about more serious issues.
So tell Donald Trump to stop talking about the white paper.
Tell Donald Trump.
brad todd
I would agree with Keith.
abby phillip
I don't know why you would be yelling at Keith about this.
To his point, it is Donald Trump with Obama.
It is Donald Trump who has made the Epstein story a story for over a week now.
lara trump
Give me your response to what we heard from former President Obama there.
He's saying that none of this makes any sense, that this is a distraction.
unidentified
What do you say to that?
tulsi gabbard
It's the art of deflection coming from former President Obama, as well as his friends who are still in Congress today, and Senator Warner and Congressman Jim Himes, really all basically saying that exact same statement, which doesn't actually address the issue that was revealed in great detail in the over 100 documents that we released last week,
in the documents that we will be releasing later this week, that point to the undeniable fact that you laid out in your introduction to this segment, is that the intelligence community had one assessment, that Russia did not have the intent or capability to try to impact the outcome of the U.S. election leading up to Election Day.
The same assessment was made after Donald Trump was elected by the American people as president in 2016, defeating Hillary Clinton.
And it wasn't until after that polled president's daily brief document that you referenced that the Principals Committee was called in the National Security Council and President Obama then directed then his Obama's ODNI,
DNI James Clapper, to lead the effort to create this new intelligence community assessment that detailed not if, but how Moscow attempted to influence the outcome of the U.S. election.
So this is the thing that I think people should pay attention to is neither the message from President Obama's office, neither the statements coming from Democrats in Congress today and their friends in the propaganda media, none of them are addressing this fact that there was a shift,
180 degree shift from the intelligence community's assessment leading up to the election to the one that President Obama directed be produced after Donald Trump won the election that completely contradicted those assessments that had come previously.
The second thing I want to address that's very important, Laura, is that in the clip that you played, you saw John Brennan, James Clapper, James Comey stated with high confidence this January intelligence community assessment that they drafted at the direction of President Obama.
The fact is that they used already discredited information like the steel dossier.
They knew it was discredited at that time, yet they used it as a source for this document that they claim to have high confidence in.
They used intelligence that some of these intelligence community professionals rejected previously because of the lack of credibility and the lack of the ability to vet with any kind of confidence whether or not that information or intelligence was accurate and could be used for an assessment.
There is a long laundry list of facts and intelligence reporting that directly contradict the statement coming from President Obama's office and those who are trying to deflect away from what actually happened, which was after Donald Trump was elected,
led by President Obama, there was an effort to create a document that would serve as a foundation for what would be a years-long coup against President Trump, therefore trying to subvert the will of the American people who sent him to the White House in 2016.
steve bannon
It's Wednesday, 23 July year of our Lord 2025.
A long cold open.
We could play many, many, many more minutes of just amazing content from when President Trump threw down hard yesterday in the Oval Office.
And Obama responded with deflection and quite frankly, I think a bald face lie.
This shows you how nervous they are.
Barack Obama responded to President Trump's beatdown from the Oval Office in front of a head of state and on global television yesterday.
And of course, it's a firestorm right now in D.C. as all these rats are running off the, are going down the rat line of the radical left Democratic Party.
John Solomon joins us.
John, put this in perspective because you and I have been working on this one for years.
Finally, and Tulsi Gabbard finally got her shout out by President Trump last night at the reception for the Congress.
Finally, and she's been taking incoming.
The reason she's been taking incoming, folks, is that she's been on the right side of every issue.
But you can see she's a safe pair of hands.
Solomon, your thoughts, brother?
john solomon
Well, let's thank Barack Obama's statement at the start.
None of this makes sense.
Let's make sense of it for your audience.
Barack Obama attends a meeting in July 2016 before Crossfire Hurricane is opened by the FBI targeting the Republican nominee for the 2016 presidential election.
And he's told Hillary Clinton is going to invent a scandal.
He's going to hang a fake Russian signal at Donald Trump's campaign house and make it look like Vladimir Putin is trying to help him win the election.
They know the fix is in at the beginning.
Barack Obama does not stop his FBI or his intelligence committee from investigating that very allegation.
So they know it emanates from a dirty trick inside of the Trump campaign inside the Hillary Clinton campaign.
In fall, after the first effort to defeat Trump fail, they don't defeat him.
The Russia stuff doesn't work.
Christopher Steele and others tried to peddle it as hard as they could.
Barack Obama assembles a team.
He assembles it.
He orders This ICA and this intelligence community assessment reverses what the intelligence community just concluded: that Vladimir Putin in September didn't have a preference of which candidate to win.
He was just trying to sow chaos, which, by the way, is the traditional Soviet playbook.
To get to that conclusion, they have to take a document that has been fully discredited by December of 2016 and inject it into the earlier intelligence assessment.
That document is the Steele dossier.
In December, when they use the Steele dossier at Barack Obama's direction, this is the new assessment they're doing, of Steele's already been fired.
It's already been proven that none of the statements in his dossier are true.
The FBI had a spreadsheet knocking them all down or that none of them could be corroborated if they weren't knocked down.
And three, they know the rest of the CIA doesn't believe the document should be used.
And what do they do?
They put it in that dossier.
And one more thing, just real quickly.
In January, as he's leaving office, the FBI has cleared Mike Flynn.
President Obama presides over a meeting with the FBI to figure out how they can keep pursuing Flynn and hamper the beginning of the Trump presidency.
Barack Obama was at the center of those three actions for a major part of the weaponization episode.
steve bannon
President Trump yesterday called his predecessor guilty of treason.
The former commander-in-chief, pretty stunning.
John, please stick around.
We'll take a short commercial break.
John Solomon, Mike Davis, Senator Josh Hawley, Senator Ron Johnson, Sean Parnell trying to get Sean Parnell.
They're coming after Pete Hegseth.
Leaster in the Daily Mail today.
They got some letters circulating, a poison pin letter circulating over at the building over at the Pentagon.
Sean Parnell is going to be on to explain all this.
Packed this morning.
Investigations, scandals, all of it.
Short break.
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So John Solomon, and maybe we put up, Tulsi put up, you can tell what they're doing, which is the playbook.
You know, every couple of days they're going to put out another big reveal.
You've been on this one for years.
You probably know this better on the details than anyone.
Just be a guide for us.
Where do you think this is going in the next days and weeks ahead, sir?
john solomon
We talked about this a couple of weeks ago, Steve, that Cash Patel opened an investigation in April inside the FBI.
It's a predicated criminal investigation that looks at everything from the clearing of Hillary Clinton to the start of Russia Gate all the way through Jack Smith raiding Florida and the Biden White House sticking the National Archives and telling to get the FBI and Donald Trump in the classified documents case as one continuous criminal conspiracy, much like you would look at a drug cartel or an organized crime organization like the Mafia.
When the Justice Department starts an investigation like this, their first step is to name a federal strike force, to get a strike force of the best agents and prosecutors, have them work exclusively on this and develop the different overt acts.
What are the overt acts?
Is it the ordering of the crossfire hurricane?
Is it Obama knowing that it's a fake scandal and allowing it to go on?
Is it hijacking the ICA?
You go through that.
I think Pam Bondi's on the verge if she follows the Justice Department's normal predicate.
I got an open conspiracy case to name a federal strike force and to move this to the next level.
Just think about this.
That means the Obama administration and the Democrats and all of those who were involved in the weaponization are going to be treated just like the mob, just like a drug cartel.
They're going to be pursued by a federal strike force to determine whether their political conspiracy to get Trump rose to a criminal conspiracy.
I think that's the next step.
I would not be surprised based how far I know this investigation has evolved if that happened within the next week.
That will give us a sense that maybe for the first time, there's a serious effort to investigate this and to bring accountability all the way back from 16, all the way through 24.
unidentified
That's what I'd be watching for.
steve bannon
One other thing.
You broke, by the way, that's huge.
A federal strike force to bring together their best talent on one thing to make sure they pursue this as they would a mob investigation or a drug cartel using RICO and the criminal conspiracy.
This is why on MSNBC, they're saying, well, this happened years ago.
It's only he answered.
They answered some bad questions to Congress and they couldn't, you know, it's just inadvertent.
Also, a couple weeks ago, you broke this thing on the FBI and the Chinese Communist Party trying to get to 2020.
As you see, President Trump continues to come back every time he talks and hammers 2020.
What do you got for us today?
It's a bunch of articles now following your reporting.
What's the latest on that?
john solomon
Well, it's one of the potential overt acts in a long-running conspiracy.
If the FBI, which falsely investigated President Trump, created blockades to not investigate people like Hillary Clinton fully or Hunter Biden fully, remember what the IRS whistleblowers told us.
If they also tried to protect Joe Biden by hiding or suppressing or not fully investigating a foreign intervention in the 2020 election, that would be viewed as another overt act in that wash rinse repeat cycle that we talked about.
Clear the Democrat, pursue the Republican on similar investigations.
That's that pattern that goes from 16 to 20.
Ukraine, Russia, January 6th, the classified documents case, the same pattern keeps replaying itself.
This China episode would be an example.
The FBI knowingly and willfully stopped investigating a credible intelligence report that China was trying to help Joe Biden win the election with fake mail imbalance.
They did so even by recalling their intelligence report and asking agencies to destroy it.
That could be considered an overt act of misusing the color of government and leaving the United States vulnerable to the attack of an enemy.
And remember, all those guys ran out on TV in December 2020 and said, no foreign interventions in the election.
No, well, there was apparently one that they just didn't fully look at.
In fact, there were two because I ran also half the database, we learned later.
So two foreign interventions, but they'd go on TV and deny it.
Why is that?
It looks like a cover-up for something that went on in the summer and fall of 2020.
So I think that fits into this conspiracy.
It probably is part of the strike force if Pam Bondi goes that direction.
These are really, really significant moments for people who have waited seven, eight, nine years for accountability.
Now, I'm not saying it's going to happen, but I am saying that this is a tipping point moment where for the first time, a serious and complete effort to look at this entire nine-year weaponization as a criminal conspiracy, that moment is at hand.
We'll find out soon if Bambondi's in on it.
steve bannon
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You got a great story up on Steel Dossier today.
Where do people go to get all your content, sir?
Now more than ever.
john solomon
Thank you.
JustinNews.com.
Jay Solomon reports is the handle on all social media, including Getter and Truth.
And I get, I'm very lucky every night to follow you at 6 o'clock.
Right, you're in Real America's voice.
So those are the best ways to get our great content.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
John Solomon.
Do we have time to play the cold open for Alina Chabab?
unidentified
How long?
steve bannon
Let's go and play it.
I got Mike Davis here.
A big fight in New Jersey.
Davis is all over this.
AI, all of it.
Let's play it.
willie geist
Kind of a dramatic scene at the U.S. Attorney's Office in New Jersey yesterday as the Attorney General stepped in after interim U.S. Attorney Alina Haba was replaced there in New Jersey.
Haba, former personal lawyer for the president, was removed from her post by a panel of New Jersey federal judges.
But then the Trump administration intervened.
So, Lisa, this was an interim position of, I think, 120 days.
lisa rubin
Exactly right.
willie geist
It's time for it to be over and her to go away, and that's the case the judges made here.
But now the Attorney General of the United States stepping in to try to get her Hava's job back.
What's going on here?
lisa rubin
That's exactly what happened.
So, first of all, she wasn't removed upon the expiration of that 120 days.
Either the position becomes filled by somebody who's the first assistant United States attorney by statute, or the judges can appoint someone to serve as a U.S. attorney until the president nominates someone and the Senate confirms someone.
That is, in the usual course, how this is supposed to work.
For the avoidance of doubt, yesterday the chief judge of the District of New Jersey issued an order saying that that same first assistant I was still referring to would become the U.S. Attorney.
Pam Bondi, in an ex-post last night, called the judges rogue for exercising their statutory prerogative, then fired the first assistant, claiming Alina Hava's 120 days weren't yet up.
And here we're getting into a semantic dispute about the meaning of the word appointment.
President Trump announced that Alina Hava would be serving as the acting U.S. Attorney on March 24th.
If you take that as the date, her 120 days was up yesterday.
But she was sworn in by Pam Bondi on March 28th.
And if that's the operative date, she wasn't yet done.
According to Pam Bondi, Desiree Grace, who is the appointee, was still acting as the first assistant as a career prosecutor.
steve bannon
Mike Davis, this is a huge fight for President Trump against this radical judiciary.
Make this make sense to us.
What's going on?
mike davis
Yeah, so the President of the United States has like 93 United States attorneys around the country who are the chief law enforcement officer in each one of these federal districts, including the District of New Jersey.
Generally, how it works is the president nominates a U.S. attorney.
That U.S. attorney is confirmed by the Senate, but you have these Democrat senators like Corey Booker, who doesn't even live in New Jersey.
He lives in Manhattan most of the time, but he has used what's called the blue slip, where you have to get the home state senator's approval.
The president has to get the home state senator's approval before the Senate will move forward with the nominations of U.S. attorneys, district court judges, and U.S. Marshals.
The blue slips are not going away.
I always say there would be a hundred senator revolts if these home state senators lost the ability to hand select the U.S. attorney who would prosecute them, the district court judge who would oversee the trial, and the U.S. Marshal who would escort them to prison.
So I'm just telling you, I tried to get away from the title of the title.
steve bannon
But hang on, hang on, but hang on, hang on.
I understand they should have consultation rights, but if the blue slips don't go away, the audience is just learning this.
That means all these left-wing, this is the reason you have problems in California, you have problems in Illinois, you have problems in New York.
You can't enforce anything because they don't let the president and his Article II powers appoint who he wants to appoint, correct?
mike davis
Correct.
But I'm telling you, as the chief counsel for nominations for Grassley eight years ago or whenever the hell it was, I tried hard to get rid of these blue slips.
I think it's BS that the president can't pick his own people, but it is something the Senate has had for 100 years.
And like I said, there would be 100 senator revolts if they got rid of this.
So it's not going away.
And so you just have to deal with that reality that it's not going away.
We got rid of the blue slip veto for circuit judges, and that's how we were able to confirm a record number of President Trump's circuit judges in his first two years under then-Cherman Chuck Grassley.
But it's not going away.
donald j trump
This is huge.
steve bannon
Don't get me wrong.
The appellate courts.
But hold it.
Did she so they the judges threw our person, Alina out.
They appointed her deputy, I guess, and Pam Bondi immediately fired her.
Now, did she put Alina back in?
She fired the judge's choice.
Did she put Alina back in?
mike davis
So here's what happens.
Because we can't get Alina to get blue slips from Corey Booker and the other New Jersey senator, whoever the hell that is, another Democrat.
So then the Attorney General appointed Alina for a 120-day appointment.
Same with Judge Janine Pirro in D.C., same with the U.S. Attorney Sarkohn up in the Northern District of New York and others, right?
So after that 120-day window expires under the Vacancy Reform Act of, I think it's like 1998 or whatever year it is, then the district court judges get To decide whether that U.S. attorney appointed for 120 days stays or goes.
I don't think that's constitutional.
I think that's a violation of the separation of powers of Article II, but that's what the statute says, right?
So then you had House Democrat leader Hakeem Jeffries come out there publicly and twist the arms of these 17 New Jersey U.S. District Court judges who would vote on Alina.
15 of them are appointed by Obama and Biden.
And so, of course, it's stacked with radical Democrat activists.
They voted to fire Alina Hopa.
Her term ends on Friday.
They also said we're just going to make this Democrat operative in the new in the U.S. Attorney's Office.
steve bannon
Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, hang on for one second.
Just hang on one second.
I'm holding through the break.
We've got to get to the bottom of this.
Mike Davis is with us, and we're going to cover so much more.
Todd Blanche now in charge look like over at the DOJ on the Epstein case.
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steve bannon
Okay, folks, we're going to juggle a little bit this morning, as I know the Warren Posse is.
There's a two-day human trafficking conference going on sponsored by CPAC.
Grace and Mo, we're going to try to put that on our alternative channel to stream that.
You can see it.
I think Marsha, Senator Blackburn already talked.
It's going to be great two days in and out.
We've got people, Real America's Voice World covering that.
Also, there's a, and I think the session today is behind closed doors, an AI summit with the tech bros, but the AI action plan, which just got released, Senator Hawley is going to be on to discuss that, his legislation to try to make sure that there's some controls in here.
Mike Davis is also going to talk about that.
Mike Davis is also going to talk about appointments, recess for appointments, why is the Senate going home, all of it.
But Mike, I got to get back to this and let me know when Senator Hawley's up because I know he's pressed for time.
So Mike Davis, continue on.
They appointed the hack Democrat.
Now, did Pam Bondi fire her immediately?
mike davis
Yeah, so they appointed this hack Democrat in New Jersey.
The Democrat judges colluded with this woman.
They made her the first assistant.
But the problem is that Alina still has the job until Friday because that's when her 120-day appointment expires.
And so Pam fired the first assistant.
Now, at 120 days, what I presume will happen is that Pam will make Alina the, so she'll be, so this woman who just got fired will become the first assistant again or someone else.
Pam's going to fire that first assistant again on Friday.
And if Alina wants the job, and I strongly urge her to take the job, appoints Alina Haba the first assistant on Friday.
And then she becomes the acting U.S. attorney on Friday and doesn't miss a beat.
And it's a big middle finger to the 17 district court judges in New Jersey, 15 of whom were appointed by Obama and Biden, that they don't get a pick President Trump's team, President Trump and Pan Bonnie get a pick his U.S. attorney.
And it's unconstitutional what they did.
And it, frankly, it's an ethics violation.
And I'm going to file a judicial misconduct complaint against these 17 judges, like I filed a House ethics complaint against House Democrat leader Hakeem Jeffries and got him all spun up about that because Hakeem Jeffries said that these 17 judges in New Jersey,
15 Obama and Biden appointees, needed to fire Alina Haba because Alina Haba sought and got a federal grand jury indictment against a Democrat House member, a piece of trash House member, a bottom feeder who assaulted federal ICE officers allegedly, allegedly meaning on video.
And so when Alina brought that indictment, Hakeem Jeffries said that she needed to be fired for that.
Well, I don't know how that's not obstruction of justice, but at a minimum, he's going to face a house ethics complaint, and these judges are going to fight a judicial misconduct complaint.
steve bannon
I want to pull the camera back for a second and explain.
You have Maine Justice, and Maine Justice has these huge departments.
Like you have the criminal division, you have civil rights, which you have Hermit is running, and the Civil Rights Division is huge.
That's where all the voter situation is.
So that's Maine Justice with thousands of people.
The FBI then is their investigative arm that reports to Maine Justice.
Then you have 93 U.S. attorneys.
So people should understand the whole country is divided up, including the territories into different sections like the Southern District of New York or the Eastern District of New York over in Brooklyn or D.C. or New Jersey and obviously Los Angeles.
Some of these are incredibly powerful because you have the major cities.
And this is one of the reasons you have these neo-Confederates, right, like Bass, like the Mayor of Chicago, like what's happening in New York City.
They get these pliant U.S. attorneys because of the blue slips.
And they run like independent sanctuary cities and independent countries.
Where does President Trump stand?
This is my whole point about the Senate.
You either stick around in August and start approving people because Judge Denine, and these are heavy lifts on him.
Judge Denine, I think, got confirmed, right, as D.C., and that's going to be very powerful.
But you either do that or you just do recess appointments and get your U.S. attorneys in there.
President Trump, the U.S. attorneys, I would argue, are actually more powerful.
If you want the Epstein thing situated or back in the days when Acosta was a U.S. attorney in Southern Florida, you have to have a hammer as a U.S. attorney.
This is what these U.S. attorneys are.
And this is why Alin Habab is so important in New Jersey, because as you know, that's just an extension of New York City, sir.
mike davis
That's exactly right.
U.S. attorneys are very important.
They're powerful.
They are the chief law enforcement officer in each one of these districts.
If you don't get the U.S. attorney to bring an indictment or open an investigation, it doesn't happen, right?
Or it's very hard to make it happen.
You essentially have to have the attorney general or the deputy attorney general step in and do it over their heads, which is rare.
Fortunately, Pam Bundy and Todd Blanche have backbones of steel, so they'll do stuff like that.
But it's rare to get prior attorneys general or deputy attorneys general to do things like that.
we have warriors as AG and deputy AG or DAC.
I would say this about...
steve bannon
I want to get Senator Hawley for a few minutes.
Mike Davis is with us.
We're going to talk AI after that.
Senator Hawley joins us.
Senator Hawley, they're promulgating, they have the summit today with the tech bros.
They're going to promulgate or promulgate right now the AI plan.
You're putting up legislation.
Where do we stand with artificial intelligence as of this morning, sir, with your legislation?
josh hawley
Well, what we need to do is we need to give every individual American, Stephen, every American worker the right to protect their own personal information.
You know, and we're talking about your name, your image, their likeness.
If it's good enough for college athletes, why shouldn't it be good enough for the American worker?
You ought to be able to protect that stuff.
If AI wants it from you, they want to train their models on you.
That's fine.
They should come get your permission and compensate you for it.
Right now, they don't.
Right now, the attitude is smash and grab.
AI comes in and says, all right, I'm going to take everything you posted on Facebook.
I'm going to take everything you put up on X. Let's say you're a creator, you're a songwriter, you're a novelist, whatever.
They're going to take all of that.
They're not going to tell you.
They're not going to ask you.
They're not going to compensate you.
That needs to change.
Bottom line for me, Steve, is this.
Is AI going to work for people or are people going to work for AI?
And I know what the big companies want.
They want us all to work for them and to be their digital slaves.
No thanks is my response to that.
We need to put the American people, the American worker first here.
An America first approach is what we need to adopt.
steve bannon
And you don't think, and you're saying, hey, executive orders are fine, but we need to codify this.
Is that your point?
josh hawley
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, listen, we need to give the American people enforceable rights because right now, it may say that, yeah, sure, if you write, if you put something out on Facebook, you may have a copyright to that.
AI doesn't care.
Facebook doesn't care.
Google, they don't care.
They come and they scrape it.
They train their systems on it.
They take your pictures.
You put pictures of your kids up on Facebook.
They're going to take those.
They're going to train their models on them.
They're going to do whatever they want with them.
And you can't protect it.
We need to give every individual American the right to protect their stuff, to protect their data, and pretty soon, Steve, to protect their jobs.
I want AI to be good for workers, not take away workers' jobs.
So we've got some work to do, and I think we've got to put power into the hands of the people.
We're populists, right?
I mean, power into the hands of the people.
There's nothing more fundamental in America than individual rights.
And we need to make sure in this age of AI that every American individual has rights.
steve bannon
Yeah, but the tech bros are sitting there saying, look, Hawley and Davis and Bannon, they're a voice for an unruly mob of a bunch of mouth breathers.
And they're slowing us down.
They're decelerationist.
And we're accelerationists because if we're not accelerationists, the Chinese Communist Party is going to own this technology, dominate this technology, and we're going to be essentially slaves to the CCP.
Your response, sir?
josh hawley
Yeah, then why is it that all those same tech bros want to give all of their technology to China at the same time?
I mean, you can't have it both ways, Steve.
You can't say that, oh, we got to beat China.
We got to win.
We got to win.
Therefore, AI ought to be able to take everything you own and also in the same breath turn around and say, oh, and by the way, we ought to share all of our tech know-how with China, all of our chips, all of our technology.
It ought to be, we should be preventing our technology from flowing to China because we are in a race to beat China on this.
But listen, the other thing is, let's just remember, Steve, you and I've heard these arguments before.
A lot of these arguments from the tech bros sound a heck of a lot like the 1990s in free trade.
You remember what they said then?
We're going to democratize China.
Yeah, we need to trade with China and let them cheat on trade because it's going to be good for us.
We're going to change them.
We're going to democratize them.
Now they're saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, if we just go out there and take every piece of personal property that belongs to every individual American, we'll be able to beat China.
I don't believe that for a second.
We need to protect the American people, put the American people first.
We need to cut off tech from going to China.
That's how we actually get stronger in this country.
I think what the tech bros want to do is just make money.
And they don't care who wins at the end of the day so long as it's them with their profits.
steve bannon
Okay, how do we get more access to your legislation?
We want to get the Warren Posse up to speed so we can start going to the ramparts.
How do people do this?
josh hawley
Go to joshholly.com.
Follow me on any social media, Holly Moe.
You can find all of the details there.
And this is the time.
If we don't do this right now, you look at what you've covered this, Steve.
You look at what those tech companies tried to do just in the big beautiful bill where they tried to slip in that moratorium, 10-year moratorium on any kind of AI guardrails.
We got that out of there, but it was tooth and nail fight.
That is what these people want.
We've got to stop them now.
This is the time to start putting the American worker, American individuals first, giving them rights.
If we don't do that right now, Steve, they're going to run right over us, and we just cannot have that.
steve bannon
I know you got a bounce for two.
So we got some, you told us it was going to happen.
We've gotten some leaks now.
We're going to talk about later in the show from the NDAA, and your heads will blow up about working with the Chinese Communist Party.
But we're going to get to that a little later.
Senator Hawley, the president, you're highly respected about when you're talking about the judiciary, you talk about law enforcement.
You were AG over in Missouri.
We got Mike Davis on.
We're going to continue.
This U.S. attorneys and the appointment of them and getting people in there that President Trump's program is it should be.
This whole thing about is the Senate going to stick around or going to do recess appointments.
Can you put it in framework?
What are we doing here?
Because you've got this Alina Chab fight in New Jersey, but you've also got all these issues with U.S. attorneys around the rest of the country.
What is your recommendation to the president of what a solution is here?
josh hawley
Well, my recommendation is that we make clear to the Democrats real quick that if they keep this up, what they're doing is unprecedented, Steve.
They're filibustering every single nominee, every single Trump nominee for everything.
All the U.S. attorneys, all the judges at any level, every single person.
I mean, the deputy secretary to this, that, and the other thing.
They are filibustering all of these people.
So I think we've got to make it real clear to them.
Listen, if you want to keep this up, the Senate will be in continuous session forever.
We will just, if you want to take one vote and wait 10 hours and take another vote, which is what they're making us do now, that's going to be your choice.
But we are going to stay in and plow through these things.
And I also think I heard you mention recess appointments earlier.
Democrats just need to understand, you play this Game and you say to President Trump, we're not going to allow you to staff your own government.
This is the duly elected president of the United States.
If your message to him is, and every future president, we're not going to let you staff your government, then you can't whine and complain when President Trump says, Well, I'm going to start doing recess appointments.
Because this is the Democrats are playing a dangerous game here.
I think we've got to expose them, Steve, and we got to put them on the horns of the dilemma and say, we're not going to let you get by with this.
If they get by with this, it's not just Trump, any future president.
You won't be able to get a government.
You won't be able to get your U.S. attorneys in there.
You won't be able to prosecute crime.
We cannot have that.
steve bannon
Senator Hawley, one more time.
Where do people get the information on your bill and everything else you're working on?
josh hawley
HollyMo is my social media and joshhawley.com.
You can find it all there.
steve bannon
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate you.
josh hawley
Thank you.
steve bannon
Davis, we got a minute before we go to break.
Explain to the people what Josh Hawley just told us.
Is this unprecedented?
They're actually slowing it down, slow walking and filibustering every appointment, even these deputy assistant secretaries at the different cabinet positions.
mike davis
Yes, they are.
It used to be that you would confirm U.S. attorneys and U.S. marshals and non-controversial nominees through voice votes or unanimous consent.
You wouldn't do a roll call vote.
These Democrats are intentionally trying to sabotage the will of the American people and our duly elected presidents.
Josh Hawley is the tip of the spear.
He's great.
He's a former clerk of mine, co-clerk of mine from the 10th Circuit back in 2006 and 2007.
He's a great guy.
He's a warrior.
And what needs to happen is we need to lean in on this.
This is unacceptable.
We need to force the Senate Republicans, the Senate Democrats to work through August.
If they're going to filibuster, filibuster in August.
steve bannon
Mike, hang on for one second.
Mike Davis is going to stick with us.
mike davis
Short break.
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steve bannon
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And that was most prosperous, I think.
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So Mike Davis, this whole thing, is Alina Bob.
Okay, so here's what's going to happen.
She's going to, her 120 days runs out.
They're going to put the deputy up or the assistant's first assistant.
Pam's going to fire the first assistant immediately.
She's going to appoint Alina as the first assistant.
So she'll be the acting U.S. attorney in New Jersey.
We'll be at the exact same place.
You've got 17 of these judges.
They're going to go crazy.
How quickly, brother, are they going to go to federal court and sue the president on this to try to once again and make it 201 suits we got and this time on an appointment, sir?
mike davis
I hope they do it immediately because they'll get their asses kicked again at the Supreme Court again.
Pam is on a big winning streak with her challenges at the Supreme Court.
I think she's won like 15 of 17 cases with Todd Blanche and John Sauer, the Solicitor General.
We have an all-star team at the Justice Department.
They're not going to let these radical Democrat judges in New Jersey play their political games.
That's why I filed a House Ethics complaint against Hakeem Jefferies, the House Democrat leader who put pressure on these judges to do what they did.
And I'm also going to file a judicial misconduct complaint against these judges because they violated canons two, three, and five of the Code of Conduct for United States judges, their ethics, when they made this political decision.
These judges don't get to play politics.
If you're going to get rid of a U.S. attorney like this, you need to have an explanation.
There was no explanation, and it was arbitrary and capricious under our law.
And the only takeaway we can have about this, it was political.
They had their arms twisted by Hakeem Jeffries and these 17 New Jersey federal judges.
They played politics.
steve bannon
But Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, because all this stuff's industry-link, we wouldn't have had this problem or it wouldn't be this bad if the Touhou Judiciary Committee on your recommendation 100 days ago, when this thing first started to kick up, they were going to use these radical judges to thwart President Trump's program.
If we had had Boesberg or one of these radicals in D.C. in front of the House on national television being grilled, these other judges, because they hide behind the cloak anonymity, and this is why they do it.
Why have we not done that?
Why have we not put a judge and make him infamous on national television?
And then the rest of the judges will be running for cover, sir.
mike davis
That's a good question, Steve.
Maybe if Alina Haba wore a Google or a meta hoodie, then Jim Jordan would actually do something to help her.
But unless that happens, I just don't see that Jim Jordan's doing much to hold these judges Accountable for their politicized and weaponized lawfare against the president of the United States, against the duly elected president of the United States.
This is really a sabotage of we, the people, our sovereign power to control our destiny as a country, to elect a president, for the president to have a team.
This is a judicial sabotage of our sovereignty as the American people.
This is unacceptable.
steve bannon
Davis is all over this.
We're going to get your article through real quickly.
I know you've been at the forefront for years on this artificial intelligence and making sure the people don't get screwed.
The action plan just came out.
We're reviewing it.
But we're doing the tech bros behind closed doors.
President Trump, we're going to cover it live.
He's going to go speak this afternoon at about five o'clock in the five to seven hour.
We'll cover that.
Joe Allen will be with me for commentary and observations.
Maybe we get Mike Davis back.
Your thoughts right now, Mike.
Give me a minute or two on where we stand with this and how important it is for us to have our voices heard in this AI debate.
mike davis
So the tech bros tried to have the Justice Department file a brief saying that these tech companies, Google, Amazon, Facebook, Apple, these tech bros, these AI oligarchs can steal every copyright in the world.
And that's somehow fair use under our copyright laws to train their AI models is what they say, meaning they just want to rip off every copyright in the world and not compensate creators.
They lost there when Todd Blanche shut that down.
Then the tech bros tried to fire the librarian of Congress and the registrar of copyrights to give them backdoor access to every copyright in the world.
We shut that down, and Todd Blanch is now the acting librarian of Congress, and he's not playing their games.
And Paul Perkins is the registrar of copyrights.
They tried to put AI amnesty in the big beautiful bill.
They almost had it won.
And then Steve Bannon's war room and crazy Mike Davis got that defeated 99 to 1, including the Senate's lead sponsor, Ted Cruz, voting against his own bill.
After getting beat 99 to 1, they're trying to put it in the National Defense Authorization Act.
We're going to shut that down.
And now they're putting out this report from the tech bros who are basically smoking pot in the White House basements and saying that they're just going to keep doing this and we're going to stop them at every turn, right?
If we want to win this AI fight, we're going to do it in a pro-America way.
We're not going to steal like China to compete against China.
We're not going to have slave labor like China to compete against China.
We're going to do it the old-fashioned way.
We're going to do it the American way and we're going to win.
We're going to dominate the American way, not the China way.
steve bannon
Fixed bayonets on this one, baby.
Where do they go for Article 2?
Thank you for sticking around for the whole hour.
Where do they go for Article 3?
Where do they go to get you?
mike davis
Article3Project.org.
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