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July 22, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4650: Putting Out An American First Foreign Policy
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derek harvey
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steve bannon
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steve bannon
This is the final scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going with the evil on these people.
Here's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
Mega Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
Waru, here's your host, Stephen K. Matt.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome.
Tuesday, 22 July, Yerviller, 2022.
The breaking news here, Tim Burchett over at Oversight put in a motion to subpoena Maxwell at the Oversight Committee for her testimony.
The panel, I think the Oversight Committee has passed that, or at least the panel.
Manu Raju over at CNN is reporting that this actually looked like it could happen.
However, this leadership of the House is saying the House is going to leave tomorrow, Wednesday, and not come back after Labor Day.
Wow.
I guess we're not going to get the second rescissions package.
So they better be ready to do that on the first day back after Labor Day.
Remember, these are 2025 cuts.
Rescissions, pocket rescissions, impoundments.
You've got to get on with it.
We've done $9 billion, but you're going to have a deficit close to $2 trillion, maybe even more.
Although the June number looked pretty good because of the tariffs, the tariff money.
Anyway, we'll get into all this.
I want to go to the coup d'etat.
Noor bin Laden standing by.
We're going to have a shot there in a moment of the reception of the president of the Philippines coming into the West Wing, supposed to be around 11.15, I think.
Can we go ahead and get that shot?
There we go right there.
There's some movement.
Looks fantastic.
I can see it, but the audience can't.
Eventually.
Guys, I'll direct this if you want me to.
I can do it.
I'm multi-talented.
Okay, just putting the full screen.
There we go.
unidentified
One, two, three.
steve bannon
Can't do it.
There we go.
Congratulations.
Thank you, Denver.
Thank you.
Wow.
Let's get some Warp Path coffee.
Can we get some Warp Path coffee out to the Denver crew?
Quicker on the trigger, guys.
There you have it right there.
This is a very important meeting.
The Philippines is literally at the tip of the spear on the third, on the three island chains.
That's the first island chain, for exactly what's going on with the Chinese Communist Party.
And they are bearing the brunt in the South China Sea right now, particularly on these atolls and reefs, et cetera, where the CCP saying, remember, if you go, if you talk to the Chinese Communist Party, they make the case, as Colonel Harvey knows, that they have a big circle around the South China Sea, and they say that's an inland sea to the Chinese Communist Party.
There we go right there.
Look at that.
What a magnificent shot at the Color Guard.
Doesn't that make you proud right there?
Very squared away.
Coming over to the West Wing, that's the executive office building, the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, the old State Department built late in the 19th century.
Colonel Harvey, you know this better than any living human being because you were in the White House with President Trump in our first term.
You were also with Devin Nunez a couple of times over at the House Intelligence Committee.
Give us, put in perspective the importance of what's been released because Brennan and these guys, we've played tons of clip of them.
They're downplaying it.
But Brennan looks incredibly nervous anytime he's on TV.
Just smears Tulsi Garbett, never really talks about facts.
How big a deal is now the exposure and more is coming today, folks.
I understand Grassley's committee is going to release, I think, addendums to a lot of the investigation on Clinton and her emails.
I think you're seeing, my understanding, Colonel, is that the phone lines at DNI are blowing up on whistleblowers coming forward, the new information, but didn't feel comfortable at the time they would have any air cover.
So can you put in perspective exactly what we're seeing here and why it's so important for us to pursue through legal channels, criminal channels, accountability and responsibility for this coup against President Trump in his first term?
derek harvey
Well, I think John Brennan, Mr. Clapper, and others are very nervous because they see the unraveling beginning.
And I would say John Radcliffe released about 10 days ago the CIA note on tradecraft, which really laid out John Brennan's role in ramming through this fake intelligence community assessment that assessed that Putin wanted Trump to win and had interfered in the election.
And then the next shoe to drop was Tulsi Gabbard dropping 100 documents, and it exposed things like the decision to stop a PDB that was rather benign about Russian influence and to call a short-fused PC principal committee meeting in the National Security Council for the very next day,
chaired by Susan Rice, where the decision was made to draft a intelligence community assessment.
Now, what's interesting about that is it was a short-fused.
They put it out by the 20th of December, getting the draft done.
And then that's what triggered the meeting in early January.
All of the players that have been involved in this is a who's who of people have been following this.
I found it interesting on the 9th of December, people like Mahar Batar was there, a UN liaison person.
Why was he at this meeting about the intelligence community assessment dealing with Russia and those issues?
Because he later led the effort for Adam Schiff on the House Intelligence Committee.
But I'll just jump forward.
There's going to be more things coming out, and it's going to be coming out over the next couple of months, I think.
It should be timed.
House Intelligence Committee, Rick Crawford, is hopefully going to be releasing the intelligence community assessment report drafted under Devin Nunes' watch by a crew of intelligence professionals that went back and dissected the intelligence community assessment written under Brennan's watch.
And it came to entirely different conclusions.
And I can talk about that later.
The Durham report, classified annex, about the intelligence plan to link Trump to Putin is going to be released.
And I think the president has said he's going to get that out.
There are other things like that from the Horowitz DOJ Inspector General report about Crossfire Hurricane that should be released.
So there's going to be a lot more.
And plus, the investigators are actually investigating now over at FBI.
So this should have people like Clapper and Ben Rhodes and Susan Rice extremely nervous.
steve bannon
I want to go to that meeting and give me another cut of that because you talked about this a little bit yesterday.
You had Lisa Monaco.
You had people.
It's kind of shocking that Obama would have them in there, but you had a broader group.
And I guess they wanted this thing.
They wanted people to, they had limited time because this was in our transition.
They had to execute.
But when you saw what Tulsi put out there, were you a little surprised given the way that President Trump or normal presidents run these things, and particularly if you're dealing with something that sensitive, you don't want a bunch of people in there?
Do you think he had all these disparate people like Lisa Monaco and Ben Rhodes and other, I almost call them Gundoons, but not the most senior people on talking about something this controversial was because they were burning daylight and they had to execute immediately, sir?
derek harvey
Well, absolutely.
But I would also contrast that with the way Brennan took ownership of drafting the intelligence community assessment.
He put his thumbprint on it from the beginning.
He overruled analysts from the Russia House.
He overruled analysts from CESA.
He pulled people, took people off the problem set who had been working on it up until December 8th.
So he was really putting the weight on the scale.
And if you look at what happened on December 9th, the Washington Post and New York Times on that very day reported that there was an intelligence community assessment and there was consensus in the intelligence community that with high confidence that Putin had supported Trump.
On that very same day, those two newspapers reported the conclusion of an ICA that had not even begun to be drafted yet.
steve bannon
No, it was a, that part of it was a bald-faced lie, given what the intelligence community actually knew, right?
This was the manufactured.
They were reporting on, correct me if I'm wrong, they were reporting on a manufactured ICA that was in the process of being manufactured, correct?
So this is why we call the Washington Post and David Ignation's, we call it, say he's the comms director over at Langley, and we call it the, you know, Ben Harnwell calls it the Langley Bugle.
That to me is kind of a smoking gun.
The original ICA said they didn't have anything to do with it.
They said we can't do that.
We got to manufacture one.
They decided in this meeting to manufacture, to go all in on Trump as a Russian asset and really the nullification project too.
Either Trump would be removed from office or because of the Russian asset or they would smear Trump enough and damage him enough, which they ended up trying to do with the Mola Commission to wait for their second shot, which was guess what?
The perfect phone call with Selinsky when they finally got their shot to try removing from office in 2019 with the impeachment.
I mean, you can see it all laid out there.
But that's why the Washington Post and these guys, and they're going to get brought in.
I mean, they really are the Langley Bugle.
Because correct me if I'm wrong, the new ICA was being manufactured at the time they were reporting it was done and they're reporting what they were going to manufacture, what they were going to put into the manufacturing process, correct?
unidentified
That's right.
derek harvey
They had not even put together the team on December 9th, the handpicked team by Mr. Brennan.
And CIA took ownership of it.
They violated all the normal coordination and analytical partnering rules.
But importantly, what I'd like to say is there was a tremendous amount of credible, long-term sourced reporting from reliable sources who provided excellent insights into the thinking in Moscow.
And clearly, Moscow did not support Trump.
But that information that was available to the drafters of the ICA did not make it into the ICA because it did not meet the narrative.
And then they enhanced the quality of the reporting, changed reporting thresholds in order to give more credibility to just short-term, unvetted, rument reports that had come into the system in order to enhance this.
And I'll just add also one other thing.
Some of the information about Russia having knowledge or information about the Clinton campaign plan got bled into this and was changed to reflect just the opposite.
It wasn't Russia doing it.
It was Russia reporting on what Clinton was trying to do in connecting Trump to Putin.
So they really made a mismatch of it and they got the narrative that they wanted.
And it drove, as you said, the Mueller report.
It undermined the president.
It drove Mike Flynn out because all of this demonization of Russia led into a lot of other things to include, you know, I think, you know, what happened in, you know, starting the war with Russia and Ukraine down the road.
It's not direct causality probably, but, you know, the linkage and the demonization of Russia did contribute, I think, to some of the things that we've seen develop since.
steve bannon
This is, I think, important to reiterate.
In the initial, the real ICA, the Putin and the KGB guys actually, it was kind of a jump ball, but they came down the side.
It was probably better for them.
It was better for them to have Clinton because she was more manageable.
They'd already done Uranium One.
I know that's something we have not gotten into yet, but Uranium One, as we did the investigation years ago with Peter Schweitzer in the team, Uranium One.
They looked at Trump because they didn't really know him, but a couple of things.
Number one, he was a nationalist, and no one had put out a nationalist America-first foreign policy, and they didn't quite frankly know what that meant.
But you finally had somebody who was not a globalist, not part of the system.
He was a nationalist.
The other, which that makes total sense.
The other, which also makes sense, he was unpredictable.
He had been totally unpredictable as a politician.
He would do things that other politicians wouldn't do.
He would talk about things.
And of course, they wanted to manage a process.
And they came to the conclusion, yeah, we don't know about this guy, right?
He's got these wild followers.
He's a nationalist.
He's very unpredictable.
Clinton's a known entity.
And with Bill Clinton, you know, you can manage Bill Clinton.
And Clinton, the foundation, had already shown their corruption by taking money from everybody.
Plus, and I know the engine room gets on me all the time that you've got to continue to bring up uranium water, which we will do.
We were the guys that worked with, I was the chairman of government accountability with Peter Schweitzer in the early years when, hey, the whole thing with the Clintons and Uranium One and all that is the reason, quite frankly, I was brought in to run the campaign with 100 days ago because we had spent years being experts and taking shots of the Clinton and knowing where the bodies were buried with the Clintons.
And so this makes total sense that the Russians didn't work to get Trump elected.
In fact, the exact opposite.
He was kind of an unknown quality to them because of his unpredictability.
And he ran on an American first agenda, which was American nationalism.
And of course, everybody fears American nationalism where the United States puts its own interests first.
Derek Harvey, your thoughts.
derek harvey
Well, that's absolutely right.
And the words that the Russians used about Hillary Clinton during this time period was amenable, constructive, manageable, someone that we can really work with.
Okay.
For Trump, unknown, possibly unpredictable, volatile.
Okay.
And they weren't sure where his policy was going to go.
So from that, they got high confidence that Putin supported Trump.
And that's what came out of that ICA.
And the drafters of the ICA, and this was such a top-down driven document that it scared off a lot of the career analysts.
And they froze out the National Intelligence Council from the process because they had not come to the same conclusion as what Brennan, Clapper, Susan Rice, and others wanted.
And here's the other thing.
All of these people driving this outcome knew of the Hillary Clinton intelligence plan.
Brennan knew about it back in July for sure, and so did others.
And they also knew about the purchasing and the doctoring of the steel dossier that was force-fed into this ICA to give it some extra credibility for some reason.
And the leadership knew that that was, by that point in time, they knew that that was fake.
So, you know, you could go on and on in some of these details, but the leadership drove this for political purposes in order to damage the incoming administration.
And in the backdrop of all of this, we had humant as well as SIGINT targeting of the campaign of President Trump, as well as the transition team.
We had the targeting of Mike Flynn.
You know, you can go on and on about the FISA corruption.
All of this was going on by those people that were basically in the room on December 9th.
In the room where it happens.
steve bannon
I think you've heard that crazy before.
In the room where it happens.
And a couple of things here, audience, just to put in your back pocket.
Whistleblowers are coming out with more information right now.
What Derek's talking about between Grassley, House Intel with Nunez, there's other real-time assessments that have not been brought forward yet.
You're going to see that.
There's overwhelming evidence here.
What we need is the stones.
People have to have the same set of balls that Tulsi Gabbard's had.
And this is why Tulsi Gabbard's been getting trash in the media, right?
Understand.
She was adamant about the intelligence didn't back up at the time the sense of urgency for the commencement of the 12-day war, right?
She was adamant about that.
She got trashed because as you can see from this episode, they control the Washington Post.
They control the David Ignatius of the world.
These guys are all mouthpieces for the CIA.
The CIA runs the deal, right?
Give me a minute on that.
The CIA may theoretically report up to DNI for all 18 and Tulsi continues to say 18.
I look at it as mainly 17, right?
The CIA, and through the interagency process, the interagency process is where they control the basically paperwork flow and the policy at National Security Council that coordinates all the activity of the Pentagon, the CIA, the intelligence apparatus, DHS, all of its State Department into a cohesive policy coming from the White House, from these different agencies.
The interagency process, which I say is kind of a fetish because they put everything onto that, right?
Not just having things driven from the White House.
The CIA controls that.
And so Tulsi Gabbard's been a hero, but there's going to be overwhelming evidence.
This is going to get down to the Justice Department and the FBI being serious about this and getting on top of it.
And I mean, getting on top of it quick.
There should not be years of investigation here.
You don't.
There's so many facts, so much information that this should be to me double-marched quick time.
Derek Harvey, thoughts on that?
derek harvey
Well, I agree with that.
And keep in mind, there's going to be the Praetorian Guard protecting CIA and the IC, the intelligence community.
You got Senator Warner and the Select Intelligence Committee at the Senate that is basically owned by the CIA and the IC institutionally.
And they've already come out attacking Tulsi Gabbard and others.
The media, of course, you've already mentioned.
But I think it's going to be different because we have strong people.
We have Cash Patel over at FBI.
We got Bongino there.
We've got good leadership at DNI.
And just keep in mind what happened to Cash Patel and others that worked for HIPSI when we started investigating these issues.
They opened investigations on us in order to shut us up, to stop our investigations of this corruption and this criminality in the intelligence community and the abuses of the FISA processes and other things like that.
They did not like us asking questions about Peter Strzok, Lisa Cage.
steve bannon
Hold it.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
It gets worse.
I'm going to give some insight baseball.
We'll develop this over the next couple of weeks.
When this whole thing first started and the MOLA Commission started and House Intelligence was going to get involved and Senate intelligence, remember, we controlled the House of Representatives.
A guy named Paul Ryan was speaker.
And what did he do immediately?
He made Devin Nunez kind of step aside, recuse himself for this bogus reason, and let Trey Gowdy, who is a complete moron, kind of his boy, take over.
And he let Shift, this is where Shifty Shift and Swalwell ran the deal.
How do I know that?
Well, I don't know.
I spent about 20 hours or 22 hours down there being grilled by these guys in the skiff, right?
And the star chamber was run by Shifty Shift and Swalwell, who are the minority members.
The Republicans basically took a pass because they froze out you and Cash and everybody.
I mean, this corruption goes to the heart of the establishment hating Trump.
Paul Ryan is a big player here, is he not, sir?
And crippling what should have been a real, if the House is going to investigate, you guys could have done a real investigation and got some real information out.
And instead, Paul Ryan ran for the Hills and dragged Devin Nunez with him, did he not?
derek harvey
He did.
He did.
And we did not get any cooperation from our colleagues on the Senate Intelligence Committee.
We would send legitimate requests to DOJ.
We'd have meetings with our attorney general there and his deputies requesting assistance and access to FBI agents or attorneys there that had been involved in some of these things.
And we were stonewalled even by President Trump's appointees.
steve bannon
No, it was unbelievable.
Derek, I know you get a bounce.
We're going to have you on a lot more of the Philippines.
Just give the people 60 seconds.
How important is the Philippines in our overall geostrategic focus on the Chinese Communist Party and what's happening in East Asia and the three island chains that protect the United States of America, sir?
derek harvey
China depends upon international trade primarily through the sea lanes.
The South China Sea and the Philippines are critical to containing China's expansionism, but also its lifeline to oil from the Middle East and its trading routes out of China, where most of their trade goes through the major shipping lanes.
Likewise for Formosa, I mean, for Taiwan and the outer island chain.
So, you know, it's incredibly important.
Philippines, it's good to have them back in the fold as a partner, and hopefully we can solidify that relationship.
steve bannon
Derek, where do people go for your social media?
Where do they get you?
derek harvey
DerekHarvey.org for my webpage.
And then Colonel D. Harvey on Twitter or X, I should say.
I still say Twitter.
And then just Derek Harvey, D-E-R-E-K-H-A-R-V-E-Y on Truth Social.
steve bannon
Derek Harvey, thank you.
Thank you very much, Colonel Harvey.
Appreciate you.
Right there.
Okay, so we have the Guard of Honor is in place.
Things are running a little bit late.
I think it's going to be 11.15.
That's fine.
We're going to take this next break.
We're going to chance it if we have to.
We'll come out of the break if anything big happens.
The president should greet the president of the Philippines at the door like he normally does.
There's going to be a bylap today.
Also, I think there's going to be a press available.
Our own Brian Glenn is on the scene.
There we go right there.
Beautiful shot.
All the shots.
Beautiful this morning.
You don't need my smiling visage anymore, but maybe you need Nor Bin Laden.
Let her share that beautiful thing.
Nor Jordan's is from Geneva.
Nor, how big a deal?
We have fought this on the right.
We have fought for many decades to drop out of UNESCO.
Today, the president informed people that's going to happen.
How big a development is this, ma'am?
noor bin laden
Listen, Steve, this is a great development.
And, you know, we have to take the wins where we can considering all the chaos and confusion with all the different news stories coming out right now.
But this is absolutely, definitely a big win, the United States of America leaving UNESCO.
And the reason being that UNESCO, the educational, scientific, and cultural organization, is essentially the United Nations specialized arm when it comes to propaganda, brainwashing, and social engineering.
Looking back at its entire history ever since its inception in 1945, essentially it's been a glorified vehicle of the United Nations to capture all of our education systems across the world, to standardize them, and to steer the world in a direction that would fulfill the United Nations Charter.
This has been its primary goal and the reason why it's been created In the first place.
steve bannon
How big a shock is this to people in Geneva?
I mean, this has been discussed.
It's never really been threatened.
I mean, the Conservatives have talked about this for years, but this is the equivalent.
Actually, I would say it's bigger than taking down the Department of Education here.
This is something that's been threatened for many decades, but finally effectuated.
How's it being received by the actual apparatus in Geneva?
noor bin laden
Well, the history of the United States of America, of the relationship of the U.S. with UNESCO, is actually very interesting because President Reagan first exited UNESCO back in 1983, and it took until President George Bush Jr. to have the U.S. return to UNESCO.
Then a few years later, President Trump during his first term also exited UNESCO, only for Biden to reverse that decision.
So this is the second time that the Trump administration is leaving UNESCO.
I believe that the budget up until the first exit of President Trump was 20%.
The United States was funding 20% of UNESCO's budget.
So as per Audre Azoulet, who is the head of UNESCO, this morning in a statement, she said that President Trump's decision came as no surprise.
I mean, the writing was on the wall with this executive order that I mentioned on the show a few times before, dated back to February 4th of this year, entitled, Withdrawing the U.S. from and Ending Funding to Certain United Nations Organizations and Reviewing U.S. support to all international organizations.
That's quite a mouthful, but it stipulated in that executive order that the Trump administration was directing the State Department to review many different membership of the United States in different international organizations with a special focus on three agencies, including UNESCO.
So this was quite predictable, I would say.
steve bannon
I want to thank Real America's voice.
Lucy, we're going to skip some breaks here as we wait.
It should have been 11.15, but it may be close to 11.30.
We're going to show all of this as the president of the Philippines arrives.
You know, for years, this is very controversial for President Trump to do personally with Nancy Reagan because many of the social circles he came from in Hollywood.
Oh, there we are right there.
Here we have an arrival right here.
Hang on for a second, Nor.
We're going to get the arrival of the President of the Philippines coming up to the West Wing.
Always helps when I put my glasses on.
I can see this.
There we go right there.
Traditionally, President Trump will step out and greet.
Then they will go in.
There is the President of the United States right there looking great.
Wow.
Everybody talking about the medical.
There's showing in the traditional Filipino.
That's that shirt that they wear in the Philippines all the time.
If you've never been to the Philippines, very tropic.
It takes like a...
The president's actually.
Can we pick it up?
unidentified
No audio.
steve bannon
No audio.
unidentified
Okay, we'll try to pick that up for something later.
steve bannon
President's in a great mood.
You can tell.
President Philip's.
Now they go in.
There's a little reception room there.
The Roosevelt room's right next to that.
They'll go right to the Oval Office.
Look at that right there.
Keep it on that shot.
Is that magnificent?
Look at that.
Very squared away.
Here on a Tuesday morning, there comes some of the security backing things up and some of the press corps.
There's going to be a bylat.
It might be on War Room if we can catch it.
If not, it will be on Charlie Kirk.
I assume the President's going to do a press available.
I think we don't have contact with our own Brian Glenn, and the reason is I think he's awaiting to actually go into the oval, at least the last we heard.
So the President, I'm sure, is going to say a couple of three things that'll make the news as he normally does.
Why is this an important meeting?
This is an important meeting.
Because if you look at the hemispheric defense of the United States, you go back, you have the three island chains in the Western Pacific.
Remember, in Manifest Destiny and the great leaders, look at that.
Let's just hold that shot.
That shot's so beautiful.
In Manifest Destiny, we saw ourselves as a Pacific nation.
Remember that.
Even in the Civil War, President Lincoln, who was a nationalist, right, they were thinking of the Transcontinental Railroad, the Homestead Act, the land-grant universities.
But the Transcontinental Railroad was connected to the Pacific, the West Coast, to the heartland of the country into the East Coast, to the population centers, East Coast.
Why?
They saw themselves as a Pacific nation.
If you look at geopolitical theory, it always goes around the world island, which is the mass of the Eurasian landmass.
And the pivot of that, Central Asia, is what people have fought over for decade after decade after decade.
It's one of the reasons Hitler had such a massive operation in Operation Barbarossa, the attack.
There comes the color guard right there.
Putting the flags up.
Love the coverage Real America's Voice does right there.
Magnificent.
It's about the pivot of the world island.
This theory from McKinder, the Scottish geographer, he who controls the heartland controls the world island, and he who controls the world island controls the world.
That's why they fought over the Eurasian landmass for, I don't know, the last couple of hundred years.
He picked that out of history.
There's another theory with Mahana about having the choke points, but you look at the Vast Pacific.
The Central Pacific, the Pacific Ocean is bigger than the Eurasian landmass.
And that is the protective barrier with those three island chains that protects the United States with hemispheric defense, Greenland to the Panama Canal.
There is a compelling internal logic to what President Trump has thought through strategically, from the new great game up in the Arctic all the way down to clearing out the Caribbean from being a Chinese Communist Party navy lake to clean that mess up to also taking care of making sure we support allies in Latin America and get rid of the Marxists and communists, the CCP's partners in Brazil.
Of course, Argentina is on a tear right now.
Certain nations in Central America.
It's also the way you stop an invasion on the southern border.
She helped these nations become great again.
But the centerpiece of this is the Central Pacific.
That's why the Philippines is on the far western side of that.
They control really the South China Sea.
As I said, the Chinese Communist Party, when you look at them, they have a seven dotted.
They consider the South China Sea to be an internal sea, an internal sea to China, to mainland China.
That Taiwan is actually a province of that.
And that's why they say it's an internal sea.
Nothing could be farther from the case.
Derek Harvey's correct.
I think outside, coming through the Straits of Hermuz out of the Persian Gulf, across the Indian Ocean to the Straits of Malacca, then up through the South China Sea to the big ports, Hong Kong, Canton, and Shanghai, the big ports of China.
You know, 90% of their oil comes from that, all of it.
And so that's why this is such an important meeting today.
And as soon as we break into the Oval Office, we will go there directly.
Audrey Hepburn, many Hollywood celebrities.
UNESCO, they're great marketers.
And for years, they tried to put the nicest face on it.
They would get Audrey Hepburn if people had seen her in My Fair Lady and all these beloved musicals.
They had other Hollywood celebrities.
It's one of the reasons Reagan was very courageous in saying, I've had enough of this.
But they've always tried to market it that they're there to help people throughout the world become educated and culture, to save culture, all of it.
But it's really a very nefarious part of the agenda of the globalist to actually get global control.
Is it not Noor bin Laden?
noor bin laden
Absolutely, Steve.
And I'd say that it was, or it is, one of the dual organizations or specialized agencies of the United Nations.
And coming back on the decision today, I just wanted to read a statement by White House Deputy Spokesperson Anna Kelly.
She said, President Trump has decided to withdraw the United States from UNESCO, which supports woke, divisive, cultural, and social causes that are totally out of step with the common sense policies that Americans voted for in November.
They further stated as reasons to exit UNESCO anti-Israel and pro-China stances.
But the point that I wanted to make is that there are so many reasons why you should leave, our countries should leave UNESCO and this organization should be completely defunded and furthermore dismantled is because at its core, UNESCO is actually just plain and simple anti-human.
And you just need to go to the founding roots of UNESCO.
You know, the first director general, the first head of UNESCO was Julian Huxley, brother of Aldous Huxley.
Both brothers were grandchildren of Thomas H. Huxley, who was known to be Darwin's bulldog.
And we can trace the philosophy of UNESCO back to the 19 century.
And actually, it has an inherent eugenics component to it.
You read Julian Huxley's founding document once he became head of UNESCO entitled UNESCO, Its Purpose and Its Philosophy.
And it's imbued with a eugenics principle.
And so this is totally about human control, human organization, human engineering, social engineering.
And it is, in fact, Steve, as you mentioned, just a very nefarious entity.
steve bannon
This is, folks, so for those of you keeping score at home, this is what you voted for.
But this is historic.
I think you did a great job.
You were on with Natalie on the Saturday show talking about the huge development on Friday with Secretary of State Marco Rubio, right?
And Health and Human Services Bobby Kennedy about the pandemic treaty and WHO.
And now you have UNESCO.
Just put in context the two driving forces in Geneva.
And remember, folks, when you talk about the United Nations, the Security Council, everything you see in New York is kind of more theater and drama.
That's why it's in New York.
It's a lot of drama there.
And people always associate that with the UN.
The engine room of the United Nations, really, the Chinese Communist Party take control and all the globalists in Geneva, and it's in Geneva for a reason, is in Geneva.
That's where the UN really gets the work done.
And that's where the vast bulk of their money, your taxpayer money, goes.
So how historic is it, ma'am?
Within, I don't know what, five days, four days, we've had two monumental decisions by the American government on World Health Organization and UNESCO.
Noora bin Laden, your thoughts?
noor bin laden
I don't want to be, you know, a party pooper, Steve.
These are in fact wins, and we can celebrate and breathe a sigh of relief.
But that being said, they are small steps towards a much, much larger effort that needs to be done in order to dismantle an entire infrastructure that has been built over the past 200 years.
So these are excellent steps.
steve bannon
Okay, Hangar needs to go further.
Do we have sound?
Okay, hang on.
I want to get back to the bigger steps.
donald j trump
Let's go to the Fergus Marcos Jr. of the Philippines, a great family, great family legacy, and highly respected in this country.
I know that because I have many friends in the Philippines, and there's great respect, or I couldn't say it, so congratulations.
We're going to be talking about trade.
We're going to be talking about war and peace.
They're a very important nation militarily.
And we've had some great drills lately.
We're back with them.
I think I can say that the last administration was not getting along with them too well.
They didn't get along with anybody.
They didn't know.
Honestly, they didn't know what they were doing.
But we have some fantastic military relationships with the Philippines, and that's been reinstituted.
And Pete, I would say that you couldn't be happier with the relationship.
So I just want to say it's an honor to have you.
We're going to talk about trade today, and we're very close to finishing a trade deal, big trade deal, actually.
And we do a lot of business with you.
It's a lot of income coming in for both groups.
But I was surprised to see the kind of numbers.
They're very big, and they're going to get bigger under what we're doing and what we're proposing.
And I just want to thank you for being with us.
It's a great honor.
You and your representatives.
It's really a great, great honor.
We have a big announcement.
AstraZeneca, the big drug company, is going to spend $50 billion, just announced, $50 billion in the United States in order to build various places all over the country, big manufacturing plants, pharmaceutical plants all over the country.
So that's an honor.
And he said they did that because of the election and because of the fact that the tariffs are placed.
So they're building their facilities in New York.
$50 billion.
That's a big investment.
And it's going to be a very good investment.
I have no doubt about it.
So thank you to AstraZeneca.
And with that, I'd like to have you say a few words, please.
bongbong marcos
Thank you very much, Mr. President.
Of course, we're all very happy to be here to once again reaffirm the very strong ties between the Philippines and the United States, ties that go back over 100 years.
And considering the context in which we live these days, especially in my part of the world, this has evolved into as important a relationship as it's possible to have.
We must remember that the United States is our only treaty partner in the Philippines.
And that has stood us in good stead over the years, certainly through the Second World War.
And the cultural memory of all Filipinos down to even the school children is that our strongest, closest, most reliable ally has always been the United States.
And that is something that we value, that we are grateful for, and that we will continue to foster as we go on.
With the leadership of President Trump, I am very confident that we will be able to achieve that.
I think it is worthwhile to remember that it was President Trump who, in his first term, characterized the relationship between the Philippines and the United States as ironclad.
And that has been necessarily the case since that time that you made that statement, sir.
And it is something that the Philippines will always hold close to its heart.
Thank you once again.
And we are honored, and it is our great pleasure to be here and to visit with the President of the United States.
Thank you, sir.
donald j trump
It's my great honor.
Any questions for the president?
unidentified
Mr. President?
donald j trump
Yeah, please go ahead.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Mr. President, do you think that Fed Chair Jerome Powell should be fine?
donald j trump
I think he's doing a bad job, but he's going to be out pretty soon anyway.
unidentified
In eight months, he'll be out.
donald j trump
But I call him too late.
He's too late all the time.
He should have lowered interest rates many times.
Europe lowered their rate 10 times.
We lowered ours none.
And it's causing a problem for people that want to buy a home.
Look, our economy is so strong now we're blowing through everything.
We're setting records.
You know that, you see that.
And whether it's the Philippines or anyone else, we're setting records at levels that nobody's ever seen before.
But you know what?
People aren't able to buy a house because this guy is a numbskull.
He keeps the rates too high and probably doing it for political reasons.
The only time I remember him cutting rates, I mean, he cut the rates just before the election to try and help Kamala or whoever he was trying to help.
He probably didn't know.
And he's building a building.
It's $2.7 billion.
They have a $900 million overrun.
What is that?
And that was given by Biden.
That was another Biden deal.
And this guy's building this building that's severely overrun.
And what does he need the building for?
Why does he need space for more people?
So they did a big study the other day, and they called all of the great intellects and the great economists and all of the great everything.
And it was 71.
And only two got it right.
Me and another gentleman that happens to be very smart.
69 people got it wrong.
And the Fed got it wrong, more wrong than anybody.
And, you know, he has these think tanks, and they build buildings for people that think.
And it's really not thinking.
It's a little bit of combination of thinking, but it's something you sort of have or you don't have.
The job he's done is just terrible.
He ought to raise interest rates.
You know, we should be at 1%.
We should be leading the world.
Instead, we're paying 4%.
And if you look at what that means, that's over a trillion dollars in interest that we have to pay.
That with the striking of a pen, we would be saving more than $1 trillion.
Is that right, Scott?
Do you have anything to say about it?
scott bessent
Yes, sir.
I called yesterday and this morning for the Fed to do a big internal investigation to understand not their monetary policy but everything else.
The Fed has had big mission creep, and that's where a lot of the spending is going.
That's why they're building these new or refurbishing these buildings.
And I think they've got to stay in their lane.
And I think that based on the way they cut rates last fall, they should be cutting rates now.
donald j trump
It's inconceivable.
I know the Fed very well that they can be spending $2.7 billion to build a building.
They don't do anything.
They just, I mean, it's the greatest job.
You show up one day, a half a day, you make a little speech.
The economy is doing well.
The economy is not doing well.
We're going to raise interest.
And he's got it wrong.
That's why I call him too late.
T-O-O, too late.
And it's really too bad.
But it is affecting people that want to buy houses, and that shouldn't happen.
And you know, he should lower them.
Those rates should be three points lower.
That's what they should be.
Three points lower.
Maybe more than that.
unidentified
I would like to ask also for you one question.
Mr. President Marcus, next year, Philip is going to be the rotating chair of ASEAN.
I wonder how do you plan to balance your relationship between the United States and China?
And for President Trump, Kremlin yesterday said, if you are going to Beijing in September, they wouldn't rule out a meeting between you and President Putin.
Is such a meeting possible?
And how soon do you plan to visit China?
donald j trump
Well, we have a lot of meetings possible.
President Xi has invited me to China, and we'll probably be doing that in the not too distant future.
A little bit out, but not too distant.
And I've been invited by a lot of people, and we'll make those decisions pretty soon.
unidentified
Please.
bongbong marcos
Well, as you as you, well, as you say, we are chairing ASEAN for 2026.
There is no need in a sense to balance, as you characterize it, to balance our relationship between the United States and China, simply because our foreign policy is an independent one.
And we are essentially concerned with the defense of our territory and the exercise of our sovereign rights.
Now, whether we do this not alone, we need to do this with our partners.
And again, our strongest partner has always been the United States.
But of course, we are trying to form coalitions and multilateral relations so that we, those like-minded nations who share the same values as we do, who hew to international law, most specifically the UNCLOS, present that position very clearly to anyone who has intentions of unilaterally changing the world order.
And that is how we are guided in that position.
donald j trump
And I don't mind if he gets along with China, because we're getting along with China very well.
We have a very good relationship.
In fact, the magnets, which is a little complex piece of material, but the magnets are coming out very well.
They're sending them in record numbers.
We're getting along with China very well.
And I don't mind if the President dealt with China.
That's meant, because I think he has to do what's right for his country.
I've always said, you know, make the Philippines great again.
Do whatever you need to do.
But your dealing with China wouldn't bother me at all.
bongbong marcos
No, well, now it is something that we have to do in any case, certainly.
unidentified
Mr. President, do you support the Justice Department seeking a new interview with Delaine Maxwell?
Did you urge the Attorney General to seek one?
donald j trump
I don't know anything about it.
They're going to what?
unidentified
Meet her?
donald j trump
Yeah, I don't know about it, but I think it's something that would be, sounds appropriate to do, yeah.
unidentified
Do you have any concern that your Deputy Attorney General is your former attorney would be conducting the interview, given no, I have no concern.
donald j trump
He's a very talented person.
He's very smart.
I didn't know that they were going to do it.
I don't really follow that too much.
It's sort of a witch hunt, just a continuation of the witch hunt.
The witch hunt that you should be talking about is they caught President Obama absolutely cold, Tulsi Gabbard, what they did to this country in 2016, starting in 2016, but going up all the way going up to 2020 of the election.
They tried to rig the election, and they got caught.
And there should be very severe consequences for that.
You know, when we caught Hillary Clinton, I said, you know what?
Let's not go too far here.
It's the ex-wife of a president, and I thought it was sort of terrible.
And I let her off the hook, and I'm very happy I did.
But it's time to start after what they did to me.
And whether it's right or wrong, it's time to go after people.
Obama's been caught directly.
So people say, oh, you know, a group.
It's not a group.
It's Obama.
His orders are on the paper.
The papers are signed.
The papers came right out of their office.
They sent everything to be highly classified.
Well, the highly classified's been released.
And what they did in 2016 and in 2020 is very criminal.
It's criminal at the highest level.
So that's really the things you should be talking about.
I know nothing about the other, but I think it's appropriate that they do go.
May I ask you about that, Mr. President?
unidentified
Tulsi Gabbard has submitted a criminal referral to the Department of Justice.
From your perspective, who should the DOJ target as part of their investigation?
What specific figures in the Obama administration?
donald j trump
Well, based on what I read, and I read pretty much what you read, it would be President Obama.
He started it.
And Biden was there with him.
And Comey was there.
And Clapper, the whole group was there.
Brennan, they were all there in a room.
Right here.
This is the room.
This is much more beautiful than it was then, but that's okay.
I have nice pictures up.
They came out of the vaults.
They were in there for 100 years.
This is much more beautiful.
We have the Declaration of Independence now in the room, which wasn't here.
I guess people didn't feel too good about putting it here, but I do.
But you know what?
If you look at those papers, they have them stone cold, and it was President Obama.
It wasn't lots of people all over the place.
It was them too.
But the leader of the gang was President Obama, Barack Hussein Obama.
heard of him and except for the fact that he gets shielded by the press for his entire life that's the one they It's not a question, you know, I like to say, let's give it time.
It's there.
He's guilty.
This was treason.
This was every word you can think of.
They tried to steal the election.
They tried to obfuscate the election.
They did things that nobody's ever even imagined, even in other countries.
You've seen some pretty rough countries.
This man has seen some pretty rough countries, but you've never seen anything like it.
And we have all of the documents.
And from what Tulsi told me, she's got thousands of additional documents coming.
So President Obama, it was his concept, his idea, but he also got it from crooked Hillary Clinton.
Crooked is a $3 bill.
Hillary Clinton and her group, the Democrats, spent $12 million to Christopher Steele to write up a report that was a total fake report.
Took two years to figure that out, but it came out that it was a total fake report.
It was made-up fiction.
And they used that.
Now, the one thing they weren't able to do was to, and probably the only thing I respect about the press in years is the press refused to write it before the election.
They refused to put it in.
The Steele report was a disaster.
All lies, all fabrication, all admitted, an admitted fraud.
She paid $12 million and the Democrats for that report to a wise guy named Christopher Steele.
He wrote a phony report, and they wanted to get that report in before the election.
And I'll tell you what, I talk about all the time the fake news, how bad it is, but in this case, they wouldn't do it.
They saw it, they read it, and they said, we don't believe it.
And it was only after, substantially, like a month and a half after the election, that it got printed.
And it was a big wisp.
It was just like a bang of nothing because the election had ended.
If that report had gotten published by the New York Times or somebody, and I respect the Times for maybe only this, because they're crooked as you can be.
They're a terrible paper, a crooked, corrupt paper.
But for this one moment, they said, this is bullshit.
We can't put this in.
And neither could any other paper.
Wall Street Journal's a lousy paper, very, very dishonest paper.
As you see, I'm suing them for a lot of money because they do things very badly.
It's a really, it's got a nice name, but it's really, in my opinion, it's a terrible paper.
And it can be corrupt.
But just so you know, they didn't take the Steele report.
It was the dossier.
Remember the famous dossier?
I called it the fake news dossier?
The news wouldn't publish it.
And I'm amazed.
They had two and a half months.
It was finished.
Two and a half months.
That was supposed to be what was going to happen.
And it got published a couple of months after the election.
And frankly, nobody cared too much about it.
But that was a big thing.
No, no.
We caught Hillary Clinton.
We caught Barack Hussein Obama.
They're the ones.
And then you have many, many people under them.
Susan Rice.
They're all there.
The names are all there.
And I guess they figured they're going to put this in classified information and nobody will ever see it again.
But it doesn't work that way.
And it's the most unbelievable thing I think I've ever read.
So you ought to take a look at that and stop talking about nonsense because this is big stuff.
Never has a thing like this happened in the history of our country.
And by the way, it morphed into the 2020 race.
And the 2020 race was rigged.
And it was a rigged election.
And because it was rigged, we have millions of people in our country.
We had inflation.
We solved the inflation problem.
But millions and millions of people came into our country because of that.
And people that shouldn't have been, people from gangs and from jails and from mental institutions, people that we don't want in our country, and people that we're getting out, dangerous people.
11,888 murderers.
Many of them, 50%, more than 50%, murdered more than one person.
I hate to say this with such a distinguished guest, but you know, they asked me a question.
I've got to answer the question.
No, Barack Hussein Obama is the ringleader.
Hillary Clinton was right there with him, and so was Sleepy Joe Biden.
And so were the rest of them.
Comey, Clapper, the whole group.
And they tried to rig an election, and they got caught.
And then they did rig the election in 2020.
And then because I knew I won that election by a lot, I did it a third time, and I won in a landslide.
Every swing state won the popular vote.
But I won that all the same way in 2020.
And look at the damage that was caused.
unidentified
How crucial is it?
How crucial is the ammunitions hub that the U.S. plans to build in Subic and the Lizon corridor, considering that these will be built in areas that hosts strategic ports as well as military air bases?
donald j trump
You think of ammunition?
unidentified
Yes, the U.S. House Congressional Committee on Appropriations approved a budget.
donald j trump
Well, it's very important.
Otherwise, we wouldn't have approved it.
Yeah, it's very important.
Otherwise, we wouldn't.
We need ammunition.
We're going to end up in a few months.
We'll have more ammunition than any country has ever had.
We're going to have more missiles than any country has ever had.
We're going to have all the speedy missiles.
We'll have the speedy ones, the slow ones, the accurate ones, the ones that are slightly less accurate.
We have everything.
But we will have more ammunition than any country has ever had.
It's very important to me.
Go ahead, please.
unidentified
Rit.
Sir, when you say that you're close to making a trade deal, what gaps remain?
And for President Marcos, sir, I was just wondering: do you not think that perhaps the Philippines who think U.S. missile systems could be considered escalatory by China, especially because they hand-strike dealers made by China?
donald j trump
Thank you.
Well, it's an honor to be with this gentleman.
You know, I've known him, and I've known his family, actually, but I've known him.
And he's, I assume you're from the Philippines.
Are you from the Philippines?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
donald j trump
That's good.
You're very lucky.
steve bannon
Okay, totally explosive press avail right here.
President Trump lays out better than the war room can the case against Obama and his clique.
Absolutely stunning.
Natalie Winters will be at five.
I will be here back at six.
We're going to turn it over now.
We're going to extend you this in Real America's Voice Warroom, and Charlie Kirk is going to pick it up for here.
Natalie Winters and Warhammer at five.
Stephen K. Bannon back at six.
See you then.
donald j trump
I just don't think that would have been good for you.
You can deal with China.
You should deal with China.
But when I got elected, everything changed and they came right back to us.
Say it again.
Yeah, Brian, go ahead.
steve bannon
Oh, Mr. President, I just wanted to piggyback off.
unidentified
Can I ask a question to President Marcos?
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