July 22, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| Well, here we are again, Nicole. | ||
| It is unsurprising, yet very troubling, and very dangerous, as Pine said, that the person who leads our intelligence community today would put out something like this that just mischaracterizes and misrepresents in a wholesale manner what the intelligence community did during the 2016 run-up to the presidential election. | ||
| Again, the misrepresentations just are ludicrous. | ||
| You know, when I read through the material, it reminded me of a third-rate lawyer who realizes she got nothing to defend her client and is going to put together an absurd brief that's laughable on its face. | ||
| Because anybody who looks at the Intelligence Community Assessment and the work that was done will see that it was very carefully worded, meticulously done, and it stands up to scrutiny in time. | ||
| As you pointed out, there have been numerous reviews about it, and it didn't say any of the things that Tulsa Gabbard alleges it said or didn't say. | ||
| And I really do encourage people to read it because it was very clear in terms of what it said that the Russians were using at President Putin's direction, influence operations, to try to denigrate Hillary Clinton, try to increase the prospects for Donald Trump's election, and also just to undermine the integrity of our election system. | ||
| And again, those were the primary judgments. | ||
| Again, they are ones that certainly I and others who are involved continue to stand behind. | ||
| Well, unfortunately, I think she's been able to pull some people together who are going to put together this brief that, again, is ludicrous in terms of the substance, the content of it. | ||
| And then they make these speechless allegations. | ||
| And again, as I said, like a lawyer's brief. | ||
| What she's doing is pushing this out into the social media environment and trying to, again, gain some attention and to ingratiate herself with Donald Trump, because clearly over the past several weeks, it appears as though she has lost some favor and is trying to now use this as an opportunity to carry favor once again. | ||
| But again, the speeches, specious allegations that both she and Ratcliffe are making based on the things that they're putting out really are quite concerning and quite dangerous. | ||
| This is the final screen of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going to meet the evil on these people. | ||
| You're going to not get a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like doing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything you want to stop it, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| Mega Media. | ||
| I wish, in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Bannon. | ||
| you you you Okay, welcome back for the 6 o'clock hour. | ||
| We're going to continue on with these investigations. | ||
| Sam Fettish joins us. | ||
| And Sam, besides spending a career at the Central Intelligence Agency, most of it in the field, he's also one of the leaders of the Patriot movement in Pennsylvania, the guys that delivered the 2024 election for President Trump. | ||
| President Trump campaigned just like a man on fire in Pennsylvania. | ||
| You guys had a gathering a couple of weeks ago. | ||
| I want to get to that because that gets to the Epstein situation and where we stand. | ||
| Also, Abraham George is going to join us in Texas. | ||
| So we've got a problem down in Texas, a big problem that we got to start sorting out because the special session is only going to last for four weeks. | ||
| So, Sam, you spent a career there. | ||
| Brennan ran the CIA, and I think he was the first analyst to ever run the Central Intelligence Agency. | ||
| He left a controversial, I think terrible legacy behind. | ||
| He's obviously quite nervous with what Tulsi Gabbard's doing. | ||
| You're probably one of the individuals uniquely positioned since you are part of MAGA. | ||
| You're all in on this movement. | ||
| You're a grassroots leader. | ||
| Plus, you've got tremendous expertise. | ||
| Do you note some fear in his voice when he's sitting there just hammering Tulsi Gabbard how unprofessional she is and how ridiculous these allegations are? | ||
| But he doesn't go back and he never cites a fact, sir. | ||
| Yeah, you know, it's interesting you start that way, Steve, because as I was watching that video, I almost started laughing because all I could think was, as a guy who spent a long time getting paid to read people, all I could think was, wow, you're scared. | ||
| You are really worried now, man. | ||
| You are just jabbering away, falling all over yourself. | ||
| What happened to the smug? | ||
| I'm impervious. | ||
| Nobody can touch me exterior. | ||
| This guy is beginning to face reality. | ||
| Like, you committed treason. | ||
| You were part of a conspiracy to overthrow the Republic, to depose a sitting president. | ||
| And now, oh my God, you might actually face the consequences. | ||
| I guess that never occurred to him. | ||
| Tell us about Brennan. | ||
| I mean, you know this guy. | ||
| Talk to us about him. | ||
| Why was he so controversial at the CIA? | ||
| I mean, you wrote a book about the fall of the CIA. | ||
| You've made comments before that it would take a major institutional reorganization, you believe, and a big purge and new personnel and new methodologies and a new mindset to get this thing back on course. | ||
| But Brennan has thrived, not just thrived in that environment, he's helped build that environment. | ||
| Tell the audience, who is John Brennan? | ||
| Well, look, John Brennan was basically a mid-level analyst of no particular note until he got named to be the guy who briefed Bill Clinton on the PDB, the Presidential Daily Brief. | ||
| So that, as it was currently operating, that meant every day, first thing in the morning, he was sitting Down face to face with the president of the United States, getting that FaceTime and getting that access. | ||
| And from there, he went from, I mean, just another guy to all of a sudden this meteoric rise. | ||
| And he was named to be chief of station, in other words, the senior CIA officer in country in Saudi Arabia as an analyst. | ||
| And that was taboo. | ||
| I mean, the job of a chief of station is obviously to run operations and collect intelligence. | ||
| And therefore, the guy or gal who has that job needs to be an expert at that with a lot of years on the street because that's what they're, they're making operational judgments every day that are critical. | ||
| So an analyst by definition, this is not to denigrate the trade because they do important stuff, but an analyst by definition has no such background. | ||
| So that was a purely political appointment. | ||
| And then we went on from there. | ||
| And I think, you know, he's personally responsible for a tremendous amount of destruction in the CIA. | ||
| And of course, one of the lasting impacts is even though he's gone, he dragged along like any powerful guy, a whole bunch of other people up into senior positions. | ||
| And he did that not based on operational success. | ||
| He based that on the fact that they thought like him and acted like him. | ||
| And they still, unfortunately, inhabit CIA in large numbers. | ||
| Sam, and please don't take this the wrong way, but ever since I first met you, you remind me of that commercial, The World's Most Interesting Man. | ||
| You're from that part of the CIA. | ||
| That's kind of the OSS lineage. | ||
| You were not an analyst, right? | ||
| You're a guy in the field. | ||
| You're a guy, an operative, somebody out there making things happen. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I was a case. | ||
| And he calls a case officer or a case officer. | ||
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| A case officer. | ||
| Tell the audience the difference between the case officers and the analysts, because what Brennan did when he actually became head of the CIA, which I think shocked a lot of people, didn't he merge it all together so the analytical people, which are obviously very important, although they've blown a few calls, were actually kind of equal to or in many cases running countries like in Saudi Arabia that heretofore had been with case officers or people that ran the desk from an operations side? | ||
| Yeah, well, look, I'm going to, this is going to sound like I am the arrogant old case officer that I am, right, by definition. | ||
| But look, the reason CIA exists is to run operations. | ||
| And the reason there's a directorate of operations is because of case officers. | ||
| They're the ones that recruit sources run ops. | ||
| Everybody else is a supporting arm. | ||
| That doesn't mean that they're not important. | ||
| If there are no analysts to do something with the intelligence you gather, it's kind of a pointless exercise. | ||
| But ops is what drives the train. | ||
| Of course, Brennan derailed that completely and pulled into positions of power and authority folks who rarely, if ever, left Northern Virginia, didn't run OPS, had never met a source, never recruited a source, never done any of that. | ||
| It was all a political ladder climbing game. | ||
| And then, of course, because of who he had attached himself to, you know, there's the domestic American political element to this, too. | ||
| So now the guys, I mean, folks like Mike Morrell, who people's name probably recognize the name, the guy who orchestrated the 51, the letter with the 51 supposed spies and all about Hunter's laptop. | ||
| Okay, Morell was never a case officer. | ||
| He didn't run operations. | ||
| He spent his whole life in Northern Virginia. | ||
| He was an admin guy. | ||
| So somehow that guy ended up running the Central Intelligence Agency. | ||
| And you just, in addition to the politics, you've completely lost your edge. | ||
| It's like the Marine Corps would be run by a bunch of finance guys or something. | ||
| This has had real world implications. | ||
| I mean, tell the audience why were they so they missed the call that Trump, because they thought Trump was going to lose. | ||
| And they thought they had kind of rigged it that Trump definitely would lose. | ||
| When Trump won, that's when they went into panic mode, that they had to basically nullify this election. | ||
| They could not let Trump, even if they couldn't remove him from office, that he would only be in office and not doing any of the fundamental restructuring of essentially going after the deep state that he had wanted to do and more importantly knew had to be done. | ||
| Walk us through that. | ||
| Where did this hatred of kind of the populist nationalist movement come from? | ||
| Where did this contempt for the American people come from institutionally, not just with individuals, but it seems like institutionally at the CIA, many of the other intelligence, I mean, when you read the memos about these meetings in the Oval Office, it just drips with contempt, the institutional contempt for the American people, sir. | ||
| Yeah, I think that is absolutely correct. | ||
| I don't think it only applies to CIA and the intelligence community. | ||
| I think you see it throughout the federal bureaucracy, but it's particularly strong in the intelligence community. | ||
| It says attitude by people who go to D.C., enter these bureaucracies, stay there for the rest of their lives, don't interact with regular American people, don't ever leave the imperial city. | ||
| And yeah, they're absolutely 100% convinced they are smarter. | ||
| They are destined to rule. | ||
| I mean, if you think about it, they're trying to roll back the whole concept of democracy to like Athens when the pomp when the, you know, thousands of years ago, when the average guy stood up and said, you know what, I don't think we're going to listen to a handful of families that keep telling us they're the elite. | ||
| I think we're going to actually take control and vote and exercise popular power. | ||
| These guys think, I guess, that that was a really misguided experiment and we need to go back to just trusting the so-called experts. | ||
| And they have, over time, obviously decided anything is justified. | ||
| I mean, what are we talking about in totality? | ||
| They tried to interfere in and stop, interfere in an American presidential election and stop Trump from getting elected in 2016. | ||
| And once they failed, as you just said, they tried to stage a coup. | ||
| They tried to stage the first coup in American history, violate the Constitution, commit treason, and overthrow a sitting president. | ||
| And to this day, they think they were doing the right thing. | ||
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That's the mind-boggling part. | |
| As someone as a case officer in operations or the director of operations, you guys know about coups, right? | ||
| The color revolution and coups, coup d'états. | ||
| Do you think that this rises to that level? | ||
| When Sam Fettis uses that word, it's a lot different than when Steve Bannon's thrown it around. | ||
| Do you think that what you've seen and what you've looked at objectively is that when they failed to stop Trump from being elected in 2016, which they were more shocked than anybody. | ||
| Do you think that they actually initiated what you would consider to be a coup? | ||
| Yeah, without question. | ||
| I use that word very deliberately. | ||
| Of course, the real skeleton in my closet is that not just, not that I worked as CIA, but that I'm actually a lawyer as well, right? | ||
| So I tend to use words deliberately. | ||
| And I don't think there's any question. | ||
| This is treason. | ||
| You decided you didn't like the results of an election. | ||
| And now you are undertaking an effort to drive a sitting president duly elected by the people of the United States from office and depose him. | ||
| And along the way, as you know better than most, everybody else's collateral damage, man, it doesn't matter once you've made that decision. | ||
| You'll send people to prison. | ||
| You'll bankrupt them. | ||
| You'll take away their law licenses. | ||
| You'll stomp on anybody. | ||
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Let's play. | |
| Do we have, I want to play, we've got so many clips from Tulsi. | ||
| Let's play one. | ||
| I want to get Sam Fettis' reaction. | ||
| Because I've heard talk of a criminal referral. | ||
| Are you referring this in a criminal matter? | ||
| We are referring all of the documents that we have uncovered to the Department of Justice and the FBI for a criminal referral. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And do you believe that we will see prosecutions? | ||
| I mean, our audience wants to know where this story goes from here. | ||
| Will we ever see anyone held accountable for this incredible lie on the American people? | ||
| I will do all that I can, and we have whistleblowers, actually, Maria, coming forward now after we release these documents because there are people who were around, who were working within the intelligence community at this time who were so disgusted by what happened. | ||
| We're starting to see some of them come out of the woodwork here because they too, like you and I and the American people, want to see justice delivered. | ||
| So we're going to provide everything that we have, everything that we will continue to gather to the Department of Justice for that direct intent and that direct purpose. | ||
| There must be indictments. | ||
| Those responsible, no matter how powerful they are and were at that time, no matter who was involved in creating this treasonous conspiracy against the American people, they all must be held accountable. | ||
| So do you expect, just to be clear, do you expect indictments and prosecutions? | ||
| I'm not a lawyer. | ||
| In my view, we have the evidence to be able to move forward and bring about justice. | ||
| Yes, to prosecute and indict those responsible. | ||
| So Sam Faddish, you're not simply a CIA operative, you're also a lawyer. | ||
| Do you believe, because I'm not saying the patience is wearing thin on the warren posse or the base of the MAGA movement, but they want to see action. | ||
| They want to see accountability. | ||
| They want to see people held responsible for doing this, for this failed coup against President Trump, and then many more things after, which we'll get to in a second. | ||
| Do you believe, at least on the initial, because I understand from people at DNI, more things are coming out. | ||
| Also, they are being overwhelmed with whistleblowers. | ||
| Their phones are lighting up from people that didn't feel comfortable coming forward until they saw that the Trump administration was going to be serious about this. | ||
| Your thoughts about what you just heard from Tulsi, given the fact of what you've read and seen and what she's put out? | ||
| Well, first of all, she's for real, in my opinion. | ||
| She means exactly what she says, and she's not playing. | ||
| And thank God that she's doing it because within many of these agencies, I see no sign that anybody is serious about cleaning house. | ||
| So thank God she's taking this step. | ||
| Do I think there will be indictments? | ||
| I think there's a very good chance. | ||
| I mean, obviously, this is a long process, and you're going to have the most expensive legal minds in the world on the other side, and it ain't going to happen in 15 minutes. | ||
| Do I think there will be indictments? | ||
| Yeah, I think there's a very good chance. | ||
| Convictions, if the muscle is put into it, I mean, if we're serious and this administration is committed to this, I'm not talking about interfering in the judicial process, but dedicates the resources and goes after them. | ||
| I don't see any reason why there can't be those. | ||
| And I'm heartened to hear that there are whistleblowers coming forth because, look, the bottom line is what Brennan and company did here on many occasions, actually, was so egregious. | ||
| It's not like there's two guys at CIA who know what they were doing. | ||
| That's not the way this works. | ||
| There are lots of senior people and other mid-level folks who were there when this happened and saw it happening and know exactly how it went down. | ||
| And, you know, I am disappointed that more of them haven't come forward to date. | ||
| But on the other hand, I understand that they probably didn't trust the process before. | ||
| I mean, I can tell you for sure that the inspector general process has been a joke for a long time. | ||
| You go to the inspector general, you're going to lose your career and nothing's going to happen. | ||
| So let's hope a lot of people come forward. | ||
| You know, I've advocated for a special counsel on this because I think it's so big. | ||
| It's too big for justice to handle. | ||
| They're inundated. | ||
| They've got 200 lawsuits about the president's Article II powers. | ||
| They're fighting off so many different things. | ||
| You need somebody that's focused on this and builds a world-class team. | ||
| I also believe the entire Epstein thing ought to go in there so you can have somebody quickly review the documents and start to get them out. | ||
| You had a gathering of the Patriots, I think 1,000 people a couple of weeks ago. | ||
| What was the sense of people there about the Epstein situation? | ||
| What's their take? | ||
| Because these are the grassroots leaders that helped deliver Pennsylvania. | ||
| And if we lose these people, you can have all the great policies you want, but you're not going to get those door knockers. | ||
| You're not going to get the canvassers. | ||
| You're not going to get the people that go get the low propensity, low information voters, which is the key now in every election. | ||
| What's the temperature of your patriots up in Pennsylvania, sir? | ||
| I was up at the Rally at the Rock, which is an annual event up in Bradford County run by Doug McClinko, who's as MAGA as they get a county commissioner up there. | ||
| And yeah, there's roughly 1,000 people. | ||
| And these are the leaders of the MAGA movement, Patriot movement, whatever you want to call it in Pennsylvania, the guys that just won the White House, won Pennsylvania anyway, for Donald Trump by sweating blood. | ||
| And I was curious as I walked around talking to these folks, many of whom I know very, very well, to ask about the Epstein thing. | ||
| What do you think is going on? | ||
| I expected some variation in opinion. | ||
| There was none. | ||
| I mean, I talked to these individuals separately over the course of hours, and yet it was almost like I was hearing pretty close to word for word the exact same thing. | ||
| They were angry. | ||
| They felt betrayed. | ||
| And there's no way on earth they're getting past this, the issue with Epstein and the files and client lists. | ||
| They absolutely understand they were promised something, full disclosure, a reckoning. | ||
| And now what they're hearing is, in their view, kind of never mind, nothing to see here. | ||
| And I will say that every one of them also said this. | ||
| The impact of this and the base, if we don't fix this, meaning we don't satisfy them with disclosures and coming clean. | ||
| And I don't want that to sound like a political ploy. | ||
| I mean, unless we do the right thing and come clean and show these people everything that there is, the first thing that will happen will be enthusiasm and turnout in the midterms will go through the floor. | ||
| Red precincts all across Pennsylvania, many of them actually came close to 100% turnout. | ||
| Unprecedented this last time. | ||
| And everybody's talking, you know, you're going to go from 95% to 30%. | ||
| And it doesn't take a genius to figure out what that means. | ||
| It means you're going to lose. | ||
| Even in what supposedly safe red districts, you're going to lose. | ||
| And it'll be a disaster. | ||
| So I fully support the president, 100% and his team. | ||
| We can't just drive by this and ignore it. | ||
| It'll be a nightmare. | ||
| Sam Fattis, where do you go to get And Magazine? | ||
| It's a must read. | ||
| You've got another great piece up today on the CIA. | ||
| Where do folks go? | ||
| We're on Substack. | ||
| Andmagazine.substack.com. | ||
| A-N-D Magazine.substack.com. | ||
| Sam Fattis, thank you for joining us today. | ||
| Enlightening. | ||
| All the patriots up in Pennsylvania, and that is a hardcore group that can deliver. | ||
| Let's go to Texas. | ||
| We have Abraham George. | ||
| So Abraham George, we just had, you know, we heard about the special session. | ||
| We know about the five districts. | ||
| These are absolutely critical to 2026. | ||
| Then we had Brian Harrison. | ||
| We saw all kinds of tweets come up today. | ||
| What in the hell is going on down there in this special session, sir? | ||
| I don't think we're getting off on the right foot, brother. | ||
| It really is not a good start, Steve. | ||
| When you have the communist Marxist Gene Wu as one of the members of Redistricting, who is also the chairman of the Democrat caucus in Texas House, who is threatening to basically cut quorum and leave, he is put on as one of the members, along with a bunch of very prominent Democrat members of Texas House, is also in this committee. | ||
| So it really is not a good start at all. | ||
| So, I mean, how can that happen? | ||
| The president has said that this is a priority of the president of the United States, you know, and he is very engaged in Texas. | ||
| The special session, I realize you're going to do some property tax or things that didn't get done. | ||
| There'll be some stuff, I think, about the Flooding Hill Country, all that. | ||
| But one of the principal reasons was to focus on this redistricting. | ||
| How do we get off to such a bad start where you've got the Democrats? | ||
| It looks like they're trying to take over the process, sir. | ||
| Well, it really is. | ||
| And Steve, I'll be just really blunt about it. | ||
| When you have a speaker, a Republican speaker who is elected by a majority of the Democrats, this is what we get. | ||
| This is the reason why we had this huge fight in the beginning of the regular session when we said a speaker must be elected by the Republican caucus, but not Democrat caucus. | ||
| And Speaker Burroughs broke quorum from the Republican caucus and went and talked to the Democrats and got elected as the Speaker of Texas House, which has been a disaster from the day one. | ||
| They put Democrats in committee chairmanships and created subcommittees, all kinds of stuff. | ||
| Property tax was supposed to be happening in the first 60 days because that was an emergency item from the governor. | ||
| It didn't happen. | ||
| Texans are hurting with this property tax craziness from all local areas. | ||
| And now the redistricting, which is as important as property tax for Republicans and for entire United States. | ||
| And this is where we are starting with a bunch of communist socialist people in the committee. | ||
| Abraham, can you hang on for one second? | ||
| We'll take a short commercial break. | ||
| The situation in Texas. | ||
| As Texas goes, so goes the nation. | ||
| Texas is the railhead of the MAGA movement. | ||
| And as I keep saying, there's something so not right down in Texas. | ||
| And now it's been manifested in this redistricting. | ||
| And this audience knows how tough these redistrictings are. | ||
| You've been in these fights in Florida, in Tennessee, Missouri, North Carolina, I think Louisiana, remember last cycle? | ||
| Folks, if we hadn't done the redistricting, not so sure that we'd have taken the House And not so sure that would have been there to get all the bills and legislation and investigations. | ||
| As imperfect as that is, Hakeem Jeffrey, you've seen what's happening in New York. | ||
| I mean, this is a combination, this is a merger of the Red-Green Alliance, the neo-Marxist with the jihadist. | ||
| So this thing in Texas couldn't be bigger. | ||
| And those districts are just sitting there ripe for redistricting. | ||
| They make total, complete sense. | ||
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| So, Abraham George, I just want to make sure before I allusion, this is why I got Harrison up and I got you up, one in the five and one of the six. | ||
| We started the five o'clock show. | ||
| It's not simply the redistricting. | ||
| The redistricting is so important. | ||
| The president of the United States has made this a focus and therefore it will be a focus. | ||
| But what is shocking, and I keep telling people there's something wrong with Texas, these folks that came forward today, I want you to give a little description. | ||
| These are like the AOCs and the mandamis of Texas politics. | ||
| I mean, Texas has got a group of radicals down there. | ||
| They're as radical as anybody you see in Los Angeles, anybody in Chicago, California, New York. | ||
| Texas has got them. | ||
| And the Republican, quote-unquote, establishment continues to empower them when they should have all power stripped from them. | ||
| Abraham George, who are these people and why are we doing this? | ||
| Well, this is what happens when you have a speaker elected by the Democrat Party, basically, even though he is a Republican, he ran as a Republican. | ||
| Steve, you were absolutely right. | ||
| These are the people you were, I mean, some of them are worse than AOC. | ||
| AOC is a socialist. | ||
| This guy, Jean Wu, is a communist. | ||
| It's a huge difference. | ||
| I mean, he's the guy who was out on the microphone screaming racist when we said Chinese government cannot purchase land in Texas. | ||
| This is the guy. | ||
| So we're looking at people like that who is going to be in charge of redistricting in Texas in the next month or so. | ||
| This is the craziest thing. | ||
| We expected to have some Democrats in the committees, but nothing like this. | ||
| So I don't know what is going to be the end result. | ||
| I hope our Senate, as usual, they will hold the line and Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick will hold the line and say, no, I'm not going to take these lines. | ||
| And I'm really hopeful that we're actually going to get an additional five seats in the Texas, I mean, a U.S. House from Texas, because as you said, we're going to need it to govern from 2026 to 2028. | ||
| No, it's amazing. | ||
| We're going to work through the next couple of days and get people up on the ramparts. | ||
| Abraham, where do people go on social media to follow you in this fight down in the Lone Star State? | ||
| Well, TexasGOP.org is the website. | ||
| You can follow us on social media at Texas GOP. | ||
| One thing I want your audience to do is call their Republican representative and tell them to hold the line in Texas House and make sure that we are actually going to get additional five seats. | ||
| This has been a nightmare since this list came out, but the Republicans can still make this happen, and grassroots need to show up for that. | ||
| Abraham, thank you so much. | ||
| I'm sure we're going to have you on here a lot. | ||
| This is a four-week session, and this will be a climactic battle sometime in mid-August, sir. | ||
| I can guarantee you that because we shall get these five seats. | ||
| Come hell or high water. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| I appreciate you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I wanted to give the audience, let the audience know the battle for 26 has already started, and where did it start in 22? | ||
| It started exactly with these redistricting. | ||
| And they're going to play games in California, New York, Illinois, you watch. | ||
| It's coming. | ||
| Just a heads up. | ||
| There's going to be a brutal fight, but you've got to win these five in Texas. | ||
| Behind the scenes, Joe Allen, and we've had a lot of victories. | ||
| You've gone all over the country. | ||
| You've met some of the senior people in AI. | ||
| I would say the good news in AI, there are many people that aren't associated with the politics of the MAGA movement or they don't revere President Trump like we revere President Trump and the MAGA movement and on the war room, although it's not always perfect, right, like anything in life. | ||
| But on artificial intelligence, we've actually built up a kind of a group that we can throw a punch now. | ||
| And the tech bros and the oligarchs know that, although we are in such a dangerous spot, and I will tell you folks, behind the scenes in Washington, D.C., there's not a more brutal fight because people consider who controls artificial intelligence and who controls the direction of it will control the future of this country and the future of the world. | ||
| So it couldn't be more high stakes. | ||
| Joe Allen, can you give us a report from the battlefield, sir? | ||
| Well, Steve, it's been a pretty amazing journey up to this point. | ||
| 55 days into my quest, and I will be home tomorrow. | ||
| I think that the most important thing that I've gained from all of this is a confidence that this is not going to be just a one-shot oligarchs or the tech companies just running roughshod over the public. | ||
| I don't see that at all. | ||
| That is coming from people that I've spoken to everywhere from the middle of the country in Little Rock, Arkansas, out to Phoenix, Arizona, out to the West Coast, up into the mountains of Montana and Wyoming, and all the way over to Geneva, Switzerland. | ||
| Even people who are at the center of creating artificial intelligence, even people who are working on brain-computer interfaces and genetic engineering and things that those of a more Luddite persuasion would find very, very objectionable, | ||
| they do not want to turn the future of the country or the future of the world over to this tiny, tiny set of tech oligarchs and also all of the interests around them. | ||
| They want whatever to happen, whatever may happen, they want that to be controlled and guided by the people, whether that be the freedom to make one's own personal choices or the ability to use state government to regulate this or hopefully on down the line, using the federal government to protect from the worst of the downsides of everything from artificial intelligence to robotics to the bioengineering that we've been covering for so long now. | ||
| What was your, besides your journey, by the way, you're 55 days in your quest, not 55 days to Peking, just to make sure that we're not mixing those two, that great film, the great film of the 1960s. | ||
| Talk to me about Geneva. | ||
| Because in Geneva, what we want to avoid, because we just shot down, and I want to thank Natalie for doing such a great job on the Saturday show, and of course, Noor bin Laden, who's such a rare, such a jewel. | ||
| We did shoot down the pandemic treaty. | ||
| Marco Rubio and Bobby Kennedy stood up at the end and made sure that we weren't involved in that. | ||
| In Geneva, you do have people that are worried about an unregulated AI where a handful of oligarchs have this and you don't know what's going on behind closed doors. | ||
| They're not quite as worried about the safety precautions as just a land grab getting there first, which a lot of this is about. | ||
| However, anything comes out of a Geneva. | ||
| It's got that Davos. | ||
| It's got the control function of the globalist. | ||
| How did you compare and contrast that? | ||
| Some people are generally worried about this versus you've still got, I mean, Geneva's the worst, right? | ||
| It's the engine room of the UN. | ||
| It's where the League of Nations was. | ||
| If you ever talk about the railhead of globalization, they have Davos and a beautiful ski resort so people can enjoy themselves, but it comes out of Geneva, right? | ||
| It's the Geneva mindset. | ||
| What were your thoughts about the AI for Good conference you went to? | ||
| You know, it was very mixed, as we reported at the time. | ||
| You had very much an optimism that ultimately artificial intelligence would be used for good, meaning that it would be used to further the kinds of aims that do come out of the UN, Davos, and the Democratic Party in the U.S. So a lot of concern over the typical issues of AI bias as it relates to minorities or the wealth disparity that would be created. | ||
| And again, always kind of pulling at the heartstrings of the typical bleeding heart liberal. | ||
| But there was a convergence there, too. | ||
| I think there's an argument to be made from a very conservative standpoint that the biases of these systems, especially as they're adopted in schools, in corporations, as they're used in the government, that if you just simply fix the biased against minorities so that it then is used against the majority of Americans, | ||
| the kind of MAGA base and just the majority Americans who are constantly castigated for being a majority, I think you end up with just as bad of a problem. | ||
| So going to Geneva, going to the entire flavor of the AI for Good conference and a number of the conversations I had with AI experts who are extremely concerned about where this is going, I think that one major theme that comes out of it is that none of the Frontier labs were represented at that gathering. | ||
| And I don't think any of the Frontier AI labs are really all that concerned about what the globalist response is going to be to the models that they're trying to fast track and push out as fast as possible. | ||
| Nor, I fear, Steve, are they that worried about what's going to happen here at home? | ||
| At least not yet. | ||
| The Upcoming AI action plan that will be announced and unveiled on Wednesday. | ||
| Unless there's something in there that's going to be very, very surprising, the people who are going to set the safety standards and regulations are most likely going to be those European nations that were gathered in Geneva, or worst case scenario, those standards and safety measures will be put in place by China unless the U.S. gets there first. | ||
| Explain to the audience. | ||
| I want to make sure they get the nomenclature. | ||
| When you say frontier labs, explain what that is. | ||
| And I know that's different than our national labs and what used to be called the weapons labs, which, by the way, the frontier labs have made a play to control. | ||
| But when you say frontier labs, be specific. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| So a frontier lab just simply means the AI is producing models that are at the frontier of capabilities. | ||
| The four that are, I think, unquestionable are Google, OpenAI, XAI, and Anthropic. | ||
| And what's interesting about that list of frontier labs is you can see the history of this race towards creating artificial general intelligence and artificial super intelligence. | ||
| This all began with Google really putting forth a lot of resources and deep mind in order to create the AGI that we hear about so much today. | ||
| This is 2013 or so. | ||
| Then, of course, 2015, Sam Altman, Elon Musk found OpenAI as a competitor in that race to create AGI, artificial, godlike intelligence. | ||
| And then due to a number of disagreements there, Elon Musk spins off and also Dario Amadei spins off from OpenAI to create XAI and Anthropic, respectively. | ||
| So in all of these companies, these are the ones when people talk about the top level AI, when people are willing to pay a ton of money potentially to replace hundreds or even thousands of their workers, they're talking about the models created by these companies and everyone else from the lower level companies like Meta or Baidu or Alibaba or Tencent in China, | ||
| that they are all racing to keep up even with those companies who are way, way beyond. | ||
| And the Frontier models, of course, are the ones that are run, they're being developed at the behest of people who openly speak about how their models will replace maybe most, maybe all human jobs. | ||
| The people who are pushing to create these models oftentimes talk about how there's a 10 to 20% chance that what they create could kill some, most, or every person on Earth. | ||
| So I think it's really important to know that when these companies talk about the benefits and the glowing possibilities of artificial intelligence, it's not a secret. | ||
| Sitting behind that is either a fear or some kind of strange, morbid, maybe even sadistic desire that what they are building is some kind of Frankenstein's monster. | ||
| What they're building will either displace and disempower all people or just simply destroy us. | ||
| And that alone should be enough for the U.S. government and all governments around the world to at least want to keep a handle on it and not pussyfoot around and simply talk about restraining the worst aspects of racism, sexism, or homophobia or on the other side, on our side of the aisle, to worry about something as silly as woke AI. | ||
| By the way, the Anthropic, I think Anthropic is the only CEO to really support the fact that, hey, he's open about it, that you could lose 50% of mid-management jobs in two or three years. | ||
| He thinks it could be. | ||
| And he's saying, hey, something's got to be thought through on that because right now his belief is that they're going for an efficiency model, which is just to blow everybody out and replace it with AI and AI managers. | ||
| Real quickly, Elmo, Elon Musk announced today Grok for children, Grok for infants that will be made available to schools or to children. | ||
| How potentially dangerous is that to have Grok? | ||
| Because one of the things you talk about is apathy. | ||
| You can see with people that are using AI, their reasoning skills, they just punch it in and get the complete answer. | ||
| You don't need to do the research. | ||
| You don't need to do the sweat. | ||
| You don't need to do your own connecting of the dots, which is how your synapses start to fire when you got that feeling, hey, I'm actually learning something. | ||
| How dangerous is this right now of Grok for kids? | ||
| Yeah, this, I suppose, is a response to the outcry about the previous AI companion models that XAI put out. | ||
| The two Grok companions, Ani, the kind of gothic sex bot and some other cartoon character. | ||
| So at the time, one of the main companions that Musk put out there is an obviously sexualized nymphoid that would allow lonely people to have some companionship. | ||
| But the age restriction, I believe, was somewhere around 12 years old. | ||
| And so, of course, there was an outcry about this. | ||
| Well, are you just literally going to give porn bots to young kids? | ||
| And so I suppose that this is some kind of damage control that to create a baby grok for little kids to learn to associate with. | ||
| I mean, you know, there's three different levels to this, really, Steve. | ||
| The first, what you just described there, that human atrophy, the obvious result of people outsourcing their cognition to these machines is that they get dumber. | ||
| And they want to roll this out to as many children on earth as possible as teachers. | ||
| Elon Musk is also saying this. | ||
| He said that every child will have their own personal Einstein. | ||
| And these AI Companions, which are just at the seed phase, really, just in the last few years, these AI companions build emotional bonds, they build trust, and they also build up the idea that this is an authority I can turn to for what is real. | ||
| Musk is just jumping straight into this as reckless as all the others. | ||
| But even darker is that companionship sort of model so that lonely people or even people who have otherwise normal social lives begin to bond with non-human intelligences that are simply lines of code powered by electricity. | ||
| And then, of course, as those bonds form, and we've talked about this a lot, it's just, I'm just going to put that out there because we are going to hear a lot about this. | ||
| As people begin to bond with these machines, they're going to see them as beings that are worthy of rights, that are conscious beings that are looking back at them. | ||
| This is already happening, but I see this as a growing trend. | ||
| One of many reasons for us to keep an eye on this and a handle on this. | ||
| Joe, where do people go get all your great writings on this topic, the book and all the writings? | ||
| Right now, I'm putting up a lot of stuff on my social media at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z and joebot.xyz. | ||
| Looking forward to covering what's coming up on Wednesday the rest of the week. | ||
| Steve, thank you very much. | ||
| Yeah, no, we're going to have you back on tomorrow to give a preview of it when the standards, at least the first cut of them, come out on Wednesday. | ||
| Joe Allen, thank you. | ||
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