July 8, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| Here's not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | |
| It is Monday, 7 July at Yervalord 2025. | ||
| What a last 72 hours. | ||
| I mean, the amount of news and information and huge things that are happening are just accelerating at an accelerating rate. | ||
| And that's what happens, as you know, in a fourth turning, of which we are in. | ||
| I want to go back to Edward Bolsonaro. | ||
| So look, the President of the United States came out as hard as I've ever seen him, and he basically put Morales on notice. | ||
| I got my eye on you, right? | ||
| I don't like what you're doing. | ||
| And, you know, you're not going to do it to this guy. | ||
| You're not going to throw him in prison when this is all about you. | ||
| This is all about electoral politics. | ||
| One more time, Ed Warder, your thoughts, and particularly the fact that not only is your father leading in the polls, and this is why Lula, the Marxist and the CCP puppet, one of the reasons that she didn't come, what was the reason she said he didn't need to go to Brazil? | ||
| He said, I've had Lula here twice in the last couple of months. | ||
| I don't need to see him anymore. | ||
| I've given him his orders. | ||
| He knows what he's got to do. | ||
| Not only does your father lead Eduardo, but you also now lead Lula. | ||
| Your thoughts, sir? | ||
| Yes, it shows a lot that the idea is alive. | ||
| It doesn't matter what they are going to do with Jerry Bolsonaro. | ||
| Like people really want someone from Bolsonaro family or really a right-wing one to lead the country again because now they are realizing that Lula is not for real. | ||
| Lula, he had a good background in the mind of the poor people because when he was president at his first and second term, he had so lucky that China was buying everything from Brazil, all the soft commodities, the prices were going up. | ||
| So he had the money enough to do quite some assistantialist programs. | ||
| But nowadays that we do not have that money and again, people is realizing that he's not delivering what he promised during the campaign. | ||
| Like he said clearly that he was going to bring back again to the people's life the barbecue of the weekend. | ||
| But nowadays the meat is really expensive. | ||
| That's why I also believe that Ludo da Silva is not going to be successful trying to build a narrative saying that, oh, Brazilians, let's go everybody stick together against a foreign enemy. | ||
| You know, go home, Yankees. | ||
| He cannot do that because the real life of the people is really bad. | ||
| And it's so bad that even Bolsonaro or his son, me, we are leading the pools. | ||
| And for sure, on the next pools, the numbers will be even better to us. | ||
| So this is a dead government and there is no way that they keep in power next year. | ||
| The only way that they have to do not let someone from the right wing, from the Bolsonaro family to get elected is going through the courts. | ||
| Without the courts, they are going to be swept from the political scenario of Brazil. | ||
| Eduardo, you're here because they would essentially arrest you and try to do the same thing to you if you went back to Brazil. | ||
| This is how much they fear the Bolsonaro family and the movement that you've inspired in Brazil, like President Trump has inspired the America First and the MAGA movement here in the United States. | ||
| You're a hero. | ||
| If people knew the effort that this man did for his father and his country every day, they would just be overwhelmed with what a patriot you are for your country and for your citizens. | ||
| It's been very inspiring to me. | ||
| Where do people go to keep up with your story on social media? | ||
| Thank you very much, Steve. | ||
| On social media and most of the social media is I am Bolsonaro SP in the end, and I really appreciate your words. | ||
| I'm living exile now in Texas because if I go back to Brazil, they are going to put me around 12 years in jail. | ||
| Now I'm under investigation in Brazil. | ||
| They just opened a new investigation, say, accusing me of the crime of the violent abolition of the rule of law, only because Secretary Rubio said that probably they were going to sanction Alicia Jimoraes, this crazy justice from our Supreme Court. | ||
| Eduardo, fight on. | ||
| Thank you so much for joining. | ||
| And President Trump, I think, came in and threw down as hard as he could possibly throw. | ||
| So it's a great day for Brazil, great day for the Bolsonaro movement, and a great day for freedom everywhere. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
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Steve, I appreciate you. | |
| Paulo, you've been, once again, we've been colleagues. | ||
| You've been a fighter on this, I don't know, for the 10 years, 12 years I've known you, eight years I've known you. | ||
| Put in perspective, given all the work that you guys have done, others working with Eduardo, why is this so important, what President Trump did today, sir? | ||
| Well, Steve, thanks for having me. | ||
| Well, we finally have President Trump on board regarding Brazil. | ||
| This is actually the first time he talks about Brazil since he returned to the presidency. | ||
| Remember, he invited President Bolsonaro, one of the very few leaders that he invited to his inauguration. | ||
| Bolsonaro couldn't come because Justice Moraes seized his passport and banned him from travel abroad. | ||
| And now you have finally President Trump. | ||
| I think He has been very busy recently, as you have been talking about, especially with this nonsense going on in Iran. | ||
| But I think he's in a more quiet week. | ||
| The big, beautiful bill passed the House and the Senate, and now he can focus on the rest of the world. | ||
| And I'd say the first country he turned his attention to was Brazil, and he hit Brazil pretty hard. | ||
| And there's a reason for that. | ||
| Brazil is the most important country of the southern hemisphere. | ||
| From a geopolitical perspective, Brazil has everything you need to have in a war. | ||
| It has a lot of people, 220 million people, have second largest ore producer in the world, one of the top three food producers in the world. | ||
| Who controls Brazil, controls the South Atlantic Sea. | ||
| And China has been taking over the country in a speed that you cannot believe. | ||
| It's so fast. | ||
| And also you have this BRICS nonsense going on, trying to undermine the dollar. | ||
| You have the support that Brazil gives to Hamas and to Iran specifically. | ||
| Iran just thanked Brazil for what's going on. | ||
| And on the free speech turf, Brazil, which is the second largest market for most social media platforms, Brazil just last week approved the most restrictive social media regulation in the Western world, even worse than what's going on in Europe with their digital law. | ||
| So for all these reasons, President Trump looked at Brazil, saw his close ally, the Trump of the tropics, President Bolsonaro, and not only him, but his whole national populist movement being crushed, not by the population, because Bolsonaro is more popular now than ever, but by the courts, more specifically, the Supreme Court of Brazil, and more specifically, this crazy Justice Moraes. | ||
| So Donald Trump posted this true social post, and it was hard, man. | ||
| It was very hard. | ||
| And it looks like it's anticipating something heavier coming in the next, I'd say, weeks, most likely, which are OFAC sanctions against Moraes. | ||
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And these sanctions are different from Visa sanctions. | |
| The OFAC sanctions are something very powerful that the United States has on its arsenal. | ||
| Financial sanctions. | ||
| Prohibits anyone from doing business with any U.S. entity or U.S. persons. | ||
| Meaning, your money gets frozen anywhere in the world because most banks do business with the United States. | ||
| They have access to the SWIFT system, which is a U.S. dollar-based system. | ||
| You cannot get a hotel at Marriott, for example, or Intercontinental or whatever. | ||
| You cannot fly most airlines. | ||
| You cannot have a Facebook account. | ||
| You can have a Google account because all these are U.S. entities or U.S.-based entities. | ||
| And even Brazilian banks have their counterpart here in the United States who can have access to the dollar. | ||
| So what Moraes really need, and it's the only way to stop him, is to get him sanctions. | ||
| And it looks like President Trump is heading this way. | ||
| I really hope he is. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And that's going to change completely the political scenario in Brazil because we'll give leverage movement. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's so many people in Capitol Hill, so many people in the populist nationalist movement that are saying we have to do this. | ||
| One of the reasons, and this is why we have a team in Rio right now, the Birch Gold team, Lula, who came with all this, because he'd been in prison for corruption, he came with all this, what people remembered him as, he's a caricature of himself. | ||
| I would actually say the Bricks could have made actually more moves, but he's just, he's too old, too disengaged. | ||
| Marius is like a Batman villain. | ||
| I mean, this guy is as bad as they get, and he's got to be dealt with. | ||
| This is why the OFAC sanctions, I believe, strongly are going to come. | ||
| Just take a minute or two, though, and describe for audience, maybe some of them just coming into the story right now of who this guy is and why he's actually much more dangerous to freedom around the world than someone like Lula, who's clearly past his prime. | ||
| Well, Lula is a puppet. | ||
| You got to remember that Lula was put back there by Moraes. | ||
| Moraes was a chief, not a chief justice, but it's a justice of the Brazilian Supreme Court who started and conducts all the investigations against Bolsonaro and his supporters. | ||
| I am being sought by Moraes. | ||
| He wants to send me to prison. | ||
| The only reason I'm not in prison is because I'm here in the United States. | ||
| But not only me as a journalist, several other journalists, U.S. people have been targeted. | ||
| American citizens have been targeted by Moraes. | ||
| You have been targeted by Moraes. | ||
| You are under investigation by him. | ||
| Elon Musk is under investigation by him. | ||
| Jason Miller, Donald Trump's former spokesman, is also being investigation. | ||
| He has been detained by Moraes in the country. | ||
| He shut down Rumble in Brazil. | ||
| Rumble, this show is not being transmitted on Rumble in Brazil because Moraes shut down Rumble. | ||
| He shut down X for a few months in Brazil. | ||
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So he's the de facto dictatorship of Brazil. | |
| And he's the one behind all this craziness social media regulation that was approved in the country. | ||
| So he's the main censor of the country. | ||
| And he's also the one that's persecuting all the national populist movement, Bolsonaro's movement in Brazil. | ||
| And he is the rapporteur. | ||
| He's conducting the trial that's going to send Bolsonaro to prison the next 50 days if nothing happens. | ||
| So he's calling the shots. | ||
| He's a very important figure and very much aligned with the global elite. | ||
| Paolo, why is it such a bombshell that Eduardo, the people of Brazil are speaking, even if we, and by the way, the effort is make sure that Yair Bolsonaro can run. | ||
| But even if he couldn't, the second poll shows Eduardo is ahead of Lula. | ||
| What does that information tell us? | ||
| Well, first of all, Eduardo is becoming more and more popular because people are seeing the work he has been doing in the United States. | ||
| To be honest, anyone that Bolsonaro endorses, including Eduardo, will win the election in Brazil if we have an election. | ||
| That's the case. | ||
| Because as you pointed out very well when you were talking to Eduardo, they stole the election in 2022 through the electronic machines. | ||
| And they might as well just steal again in 2024 and give it to Lula. | ||
| Or they're trying to come up with a solution that's a candidate that's a Bolsonaro ally in name, but has all the policies that they like. | ||
| And it's very cozy to China, which is the governor of Sao Paulo Tassizio. | ||
| So they're trying to come up with this compromise. | ||
| Well, let's not have Bolsonaro and that's not have Lula. | ||
| Let's have this guy, the governor of Sao Paulo. | ||
| He's a friend of Bolsonaro. | ||
| He can pardon Bolsonaro in the future. | ||
| But this guy in all his policies, he's not a bad guy, he's not a bad person, but he is very much aligned with Moraes, with the global elites, and with the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| So that's what's going on in Brazil right now. | ||
| So the only alternative we have is let's sanction Moraes. | ||
| Let's isolate him. | ||
| Let's threaten the other justice and the rest of the political establishment with sanctions for them as well if they keep playing this game. | ||
| And let's reestablish Bolsonaro as a candidate, which is fair because it's what the people want. | ||
| Paulo, thank you so much for the effort for helping the quarterback this with Eduardo. | ||
| So it's been such a long, if people knew what these guys did, the work they put in, the meetings they had, the relentlessness and stick-to-iveness, that's why we reached this day. | ||
| And from this day forward, it's going to accelerate at an accelerating pace, sir, I might say. | ||
| Paulo, where do people go to get all your content in this great fight? | ||
| Well, I'm at Rio P. Figuerido. | ||
| I know my last name is hard to pronounce, but there's Rio P. Figuerido 08 as well, because Mariah's just been seven of my previous accounts in Brazil. | ||
| So I have this account just for Brazil. | ||
| That's the number eight. | ||
| That's why you see. | ||
| But at Rio P. Figuerido, that's my main social media handle. | ||
| Paul, I love you, brother. | ||
| You're a good one to be in a trench with, I'll tell you. | ||
| Tough fighter. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Thank you for doing this. | ||
| And say the same seed. | ||
| Thank you for all the support. | ||
| Brazilian people. | ||
| OFAC Sanctions next. | ||
| No, you guys are the best. | ||
| OFAC Sanctions next. | ||
| President Trump, what a proud moment of people that work with him and for him. | ||
| It's just incredible. | ||
| Poso's here. | ||
| Poso, I want to get your thoughts on Brazil, particularly President Trump's throwdown. | ||
| I've got Noor. | ||
| We're going to get back up in a second, a little technical problem, and Joe, both from Geneva. | ||
| Pozo, your thoughts today, we've got a lot to talk about. | ||
| Let's start with the Bolsonaro's before I bring Nora and Joe back in. | ||
| Let's start with the Bolsonaro's before I bring Nora and Joe back in. | ||
| And let's also remember that President Trump also focused on another node of BRICS, and that's what this is all about. | ||
| It's all about BRICS, the S in BRICS, which is South Africa. | ||
| And he's been focusing on the South Africans. | ||
| We certainly saw what he did when he brought Rama Foza, the South African president, to the Oval Office recently. | ||
| And so he knows that these are ways to put pressure and leverage on Iran through China, but then also in terms of a deal with Russia, because people need to be very clear about what's going on. | ||
| And President Trump, I think, understands the situation a little bit more than possibly than definitely all the mainstream media, because these BRICS systems, a lot of them are being designed in conjunction, as the guest was saying, with Russia and China directly. | ||
| So China's got the bank, but Russia is designing a lot of these systems. | ||
| Look, you got BRICS Pay, BRICS Bridge, BRICS Clear. | ||
| There's even BRICS Re. | ||
| So BRICS RE, BRICS is introducing, Steve, you'll appreciate this, an entire reinsurance system so that they can get around all of the U.S. systems out there. | ||
| They've actually thought this through and they've been building it for decades. | ||
| People need to get very serious about BRICS. | ||
| By the way, that's what the Vietnam deal was all about. | ||
| Vietnam's going into BRICS now. | ||
| But if China's been trying to use them as a backdoor to get around the sanctions, that's why he did the deal first in Scott Besson, the Secretary of the Treasury, on Vietnam. | ||
| Brilliant. | ||
| Hang on for one second. | ||
| I've got something else I want you to make comments and observations on. | ||
| Noor bin Laden, let's go back to Geneva. | ||
| Noor, you've been our expert in Geneva to say, hey, look, everything in New York and the UN is all for show. | ||
| The real work of the UN in the demonic nature of the UN is in Geneva. | ||
| That's where world health is, the education, the UNESCO, the Chinese Communist Party are up to their eyeballs and running the deal. | ||
| So once again, every time they had these conferences, they had these nice, happy, like Pixie Dust names. | ||
| What are they trying to sell us on artificial intelligence? | ||
| This sounds like another World Economic Forum meeting, but it's just taking place in July, ma'am. | ||
| Yes, to your point, Steve, every time they have these conferences, you know, which I cover, whether it's the World Economic Forum in Davos, the World Health Organization, the United Nations, and now the United Nations, specifically with the International Telecommunications Union organizing this conference on AI specifically, | ||
| there is one very specific reason why they do these gatherings, why they get together, and that is for a PR operation. | ||
| They want to let the public know what they are actually doing, what they are planning to roll out. | ||
| And this is the entire infrastructure that we keep talking about, the globalist infrastructure. | ||
| And now specifically, we're talking about artificial intelligence and everything, all the changes, the societal changes that are going to happen with the implementation of this technology. | ||
| And this is precisely what the fourth industrial revolution is about, what Klaus Schroab has been talking about for years, what all these technocrats have been setting in motion for years, you know, going back to Henry Kissinger, going back to the Club of Rome and, you know, their seminal work, The Limits to Growth. | ||
| All of this has been leading to this very moment where they are so close to implementing all of this technology. | ||
| And I would like to quote, you know, Joe Allen from his own book, you know, Dark Eon. | ||
| A very simple and short quote. | ||
| He said, we are being primed for submission and threatened with obsolescence. | ||
| This is the key thing here. | ||
| This is our obsolescence that we're talking about. | ||
| And when they bring out, you know, Harari, when they bring out Schwab, when they bring out these so-called AI godfathers who are now sounding the alarm after decades and decades of developing all of this technology, saying that we have to be extremely careful, that they are so scared because there is going to be so much loss of jobs. | ||
| This was precisely the goal, our own obsolescence. | ||
| And they are trying to freak us out, rightly so, because the prospects are absolutely terrifying, but in order to then justify the implementation of all this governance, which is necessary absolutely when it comes to AI, but obviously they're going to implement it in a way that serves the ruling elite and that further encroaches upon our own rights. | ||
| Joe Allen, by the way, I got a post-war one. | ||
| I'm going to go back to unhumans in a second. | ||
| It sounds like, Joe, Jack, your book, which is a year ago today, really called this when you hear Nora talking about that. | ||
| Joe Allen, you're back there also. | ||
| This conference is important enough when the UN doing it that we wanted Joe to be there with Nora. | ||
| We're going to have wall-to-wall coverage on this thing, whatever we can't put up on the shows. | ||
| We're going to have interviews, all of it. | ||
| What is your take, given that you spent the last three or four or five months going around to different conferences, talking to all the top people in the U.S.? | ||
| What are your thoughts of this AI for Good conference kicks off in Geneva? | ||
| Well, like I said earlier, Steve, and to echo what Noor just said, the goal ultimately will be to try to hammer out and come to some kind of agreement on how to regulate AI from a global perspective. | ||
| I'm sure there'll be people speaking from a nationalist perspective, but it's the UN, it's Geneva. | ||
| The main goal will be global governance. | ||
| With guys like Hinton, guys like Roman Yampolsky, and guys like Yashua Benjio, it's really intriguing that these people are absolutely convinced that there is a very, very high likelihood that the full fruition of artificial intelligence, | ||
| something that's in a sense baked into its teleology, the full fruition will lead to either mass job displacement or mass enslavement or mass extinction, the complete destruction of humanity. | ||
| I'll be very interested to see how they're able to hold those two ideas at the same time. | ||
| AI for good or summoning the digital demon. | ||
| I guess we'll have to find out. | ||
| Me and Noor, I cannot wait to see the look on Hinton's face if Noor encounters him and starts hitting him with some of her hard questions. | ||
| But hang on, let me, Norm, I'll come back to you, but Joe, in the time we got, we got about four minutes. | ||
| It's there to talk about global governance, but as you see in all these aspects, and maybe I'm wrong about this one, it's the accelerationists that want to push their agenda forward. | ||
| It's the four horsemen of the apocalypse that have the most to gain from this. | ||
| I'm not slowing the whole thing down. | ||
| Is Nora, is that your take? | ||
| Is that we're still that for the decelerationists, so just the people say, let's stop and catch our breath, whether it's global regulation or just something that says, how do we proceed forward collectively on this versus the accelerationists? | ||
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I mean, what's your take on things? | |
| Well, first of all, I'd like to say that I think we all should breathe a sigh of relief last week with the fact that the AI moratorium was excluded from the Big Beautiful Bill. | ||
| That was a great sigh of relief. | ||
| Also, we are still waiting to see what's going to happen with the AI.gov website. | ||
| It was supposed to go live on the 4th of July, but as of this morning, it still wasn't up. | ||
| So I'm really looking at the U.S. to see where they are headed, where the Trump administration is headed with everything that relates to AI. | ||
| But in terms of what's going on with all of these international organizations, they are very much the vehicles of the elite for them to do whatever it takes to further centralize control and create this one world government. | ||
| And AI is very much a part of that because it will help them accelerate their plans without us, essentially, which is, I think, very much baked into their plans. | ||
| And if I wanted to leave you guys with an image that I was thinking about is that I would see that the world is like, or it's turning into one giant escape game as this infrastructure and this technology is being rolled out across all sectors of society, except unlike escape games, if these people have their way, there will be no escape from this digital infrastructure that they're creating. | ||
| Nor, where do people go and get you on social media, ma'am, and your site to follow you over the next couple of days, other than the times you're here in Warburn? | ||
| My substack, norbinladen.substack.com, and my Twitter is at NorbanLaden. | ||
| Nor, thank you so much. | ||
| Honor to have you on here. | ||
| Joe Allen, closing observations and thoughts. | ||
| He's still frozen. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| We'll just get back to Joe. | ||
| We lost him. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| We'll get back to Joe tomorrow. | ||
| It's late there tonight. | ||
| Joe's been traveling all day. | ||
| Nor Bin Laden and Joe are covering non-stop, wall-to-wall, just like we did in Brazil for the BRICS, this UN conference in Geneva on artificial intelligence. | ||
| So you know it's going to turn out great. | ||
| Pozo, we covered Brazil and we covered BRICS. | ||
| The first anniversary of unhumans couldn't be a better kickoff for that. | ||
| And thinking about the one-year anniversary than artificial intelligence, Geneva, and the United Nations, sir. | ||
| Well, Steve, that's absolutely right. | ||
| And when we talked About unhumans in the book, people want to say, Well, this is a book about history. | ||
| You're talking about China, you're talking about the Bolsheviks, you're talking about Russia and Mao and Lenin and all the rest, and even going back to the Spanish Civil War and even going into France and the French Revolution. | ||
| He said, No, this is current events. | ||
| And what were they trying to do? | ||
| And we actually reprinted some of the words of Pol Pot himself at his speech where he revealed the existence of the Khmer Rouge, the Communist Party of Cambodia. | ||
| And what did they say they were trying to do, Steve? | ||
| They were trying to create the new men. | ||
| The new men. | ||
| What is the new man? | ||
| Well, this is a perfected human, a person who is beyond the limitations of humanity, beyond the limitations of this crude, ethereal stuff that we have. | ||
| And of course, what they were talking about back then had to do with ideology. | ||
| But what you also hear, of course, with what they're talking about with this AI and the infusion of AI cybernetics and the human life form, the human spirit, of course, what are they trying to do? | ||
| They are once again trying to create a new humans and a new humanity. | ||
| Jack, hang on. | ||
| in a moment. | ||
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I got American... | |
| I got American... | ||
| Fascinating. | ||
| It appears that the CIA has lied for 62 years about this gentleman who ran an operation that came in contact with Oswald. | ||
| And also, the CIA lied about standing up a student group involved in anti-Castro activities. | ||
| Tell us about it. | ||
| His name was George Joan Edis, and he's one of the more interesting characters to emerge later in the narrative of what we understand about the JFK assassination and the way in which the government hid documents and evidence and information about it. | ||
| For years, he was unknown. | ||
| Then in 1992, the movie Oliver Stone film JFK came out, created such an uproar that Congress, in a rare act of unanimity, passed the JFK Records Act requiring disclosure of all records from all agencies related to the JFK assassination by 2017. | ||
| That got delayed by various reasons by two presidents, President Trump and President Biden, albeit information was slowly released, but not all the information. | ||
| We're still waiting on all the information. | ||
| And in 1998, this little piece of paper caught a researcher's eye, Jefferson Morley is his name, and he noticed that there was a person named Howard who appeared in these documents heading this student group called the Cuban Student Group or known by its initials, its Spanish language initials, the DRE, based in Miami. | ||
| However, they had operations in New Orleans. | ||
| It was a bunch of Cuban exiles who were anti-Castro. | ||
| And about 105 days before the assassination in Dallas in 1962, these Cuban students wound up in a confrontation in New Orleans with Lee Harvey Oswald. | ||
| And then they wound up debating Lee Harvey Oswald on local television. | ||
| Oswald then went to Mexico, then later on was accused of shooting President Kennedy. | ||
| But after the assassination, immediately after, partly because of the work of the student group and the media attention, everyone knew Lee Harvey Oswald as a communist. | ||
| And the question was, well, do the CIA have anything to do with this student group? | ||
| And the CIA the entire time said, oh, no, we had nothing to do with this. | ||
| We didn't know anything about it. | ||
| Turns out they did. | ||
| George Joe Anites, the Miami-based operative or officer who was the branch chief or assistant branch chief specializing in psychological warfare, I'm not making this up, was the guy who ran this group and went by the code name Howard. | ||
| When then asked for years who Howard was, George Joe Anides had been appointed by the CIA to be a liaison with the House Investigative Committee 15 years after the assassination. | ||
| And Joe Anites told all the investigators from the House committee, I have no idea who Howard is. | ||
| We have no record on him. | ||
| Well, that's because Joe Annides himself was Howard. | ||
| He was then given an award for helping obfuscate with Congress and lying to Congress about his involvement. | ||
| The CIA also lied about that as well. | ||
| And in 1991, he passed away. | ||
| But as a result of that dogged work by Jefferson Morley trying to unearth those files, we now know as a result of Thursday's release that Joey Needes was indeed Howard, and he did lead that group, and that's what the records show. | ||
| Okay, this is a bombshell. | ||
| This is a bombshell. | ||
| And Bar Caputo joins us. | ||
| Jefferson Morley wrote, this guy's a major player, and he found this memo in 98 or 99 in a file just going through and grinding through it. | ||
| He's the author of, I think, the best book on Angleton and All Roads Lead Back to Angleton. | ||
| Caputo, it's not that they lied to committees. | ||
| They went out of their way to lie to everybody. | ||
| The Warren Commission, the House, the Senate, the Church Commission, time and again, decade after decade after decade. | ||
| They didn't know anything about Oswald. | ||
| The guy just for the New York Times wrote the great book, Cruel and Shocking Act, I think, about the history of the Warren Commission. | ||
| His big get was about how they lied about whoever went to Mexico City a month before the assassination and tried to get a passport to like Cuba to set Oswald up. | ||
| I mean, because the picture, they showed the picture, wasn't it? | ||
| How big a deal is this? | ||
| Because it shows you, and we got posts on, they're having a meeting right now with Netanyahu. | ||
| And what's the central issue is continuing this regime change in Persia on these nuclear weapons. | ||
| And it's all about Ratcliffe and the CIA and the Mossad. | ||
| And is the intelligence good? | ||
| And the president acted in the national security interest of the United States? | ||
| Because of what? | ||
| The Central Intelligence Agency. | ||
| And here we have the most important thing they've been questioned on in 62 years is the murder of John F. Kennedy in broad daylight in Dallas, Texas, Dealey Plaza at 1 p.m. Central Daylight Time or 1230 when they shot him, and 1 o'clock when he's given last rates and died. | ||
| And they went out of the way organizationally to lie. | ||
| And Jonides is the deputy head of Miami, where they ran the whole deal to take back Cuba. | ||
| Remember, Godfather is sitting there, the casinos, the whole thing's about Havana and Cuba and the money of the corporations and the mob. | ||
| And also, by the way, he's got a side gig, head of psychological warfare. | ||
| Caputo, this is a massive revelation, sir. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you're going to have a conspiracy, this is how you do it. | ||
| Because what's really interesting when you peel back the story of the DRE, the Cuban student group that Joe Anites was running, it's this. | ||
| 105 days before the assassination of JFK, Lee Harvey Oswald is on Canal Street, I believe it is, in New Orleans. | ||
| He's passing out flyers from a pro Castro group, a Fair Play for Cuba committee. | ||
| And these four Cuban, I don't know if they're Cuban nationals or Cuban Americans, but they're definitely from Cuba, who are propped up, financed, and working with George Joe Anites in Miami. | ||
| They confront Oswald on the street in New Orleans, and they have a confrontation. | ||
| The Cubans take his pamphlets, they throw it out of the way. | ||
| Apparently, they're pushing and shoving. | ||
| There are some reports that say that this confrontation, in the eyes of at least one cop, seemed to be staged. | ||
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There are others who just believe it was real, not sure which. | |
| But what we do know is this, is that as a result of that confrontation, everybody gets arrested, four Cubans and Oswald. | ||
| And then at first appearance in court, there just happened to be news cameras there for this confrontation. | ||
| Now, it was newsworthy. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| It's certainly in hindsight. | ||
| It's very newsworthy. | ||
| And then after the court session happens, after the cameras catch them in the argument and in their legal proceedings, Oswald then has a debate on local television with these Cubans about, in Oswald's words, basically why communist Cuba wasn't that bad and why Castro was good and why U.S. policy was misguided. | ||
| And then after that, Oswald floats away, goes to Mexico, and then comes back to the United States, and the shooting happens in Dealey Plaza. | ||
| And it just so happens right after the shooting, Oswald is quickly caught. | ||
| And all of a sudden, the American media has a lot of information about this guy Oswald as a commie. | ||
| And it's Joe and Edi's own group, the DRE, in its newsletter that is one of the first ones to publish the idea that, oh, this guy who shot Kennedy, Lee Harvey Oswald, is a pro-Castro communist. | ||
| It's just an amazing set of circumstances and coincidences that had laid the foundation for this guy being an unhinged pro-Castro communist before the shooting. | ||
| And all of this was available at the tips of the hands of the American media and of law enforcement incredibly quickly. | ||
| Again, I can't say exactly what happened, but if. | ||
| But hang on. | ||
| But hang on. | ||
| Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| And I understand your axios. | ||
| You got to be both hands. | ||
| You're NBC trained. | ||
| But in Miami Herald, I think, dude, they were, okay, I got that. | ||
| They were asked this under penalty of perjury by the Warren Commission, by the House, by the Senate, by the Church Commission, on and on, decade after decade after decade. | ||
| And they lied about it. | ||
| They denied it. | ||
| Why didn't they just submit? | ||
| Yeah, we had him on the payroll. | ||
| They set the thing up and then denied it. | ||
| The head of psychological warfare and the deputy head of Miami. | ||
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Yeah, they set the thing up. | |
| They communicated with, they contacted, for loss of a better term, they monitored Lee Harvey Oswald. | ||
| And then after the shooting, the CIA had caused to be published a pamphlet that laid out a case under the guise of this independent student group that Oswald was this killer. | ||
| And the entire time, not only are they lying about the CIA involvement with DRE, not only are they lying about the CIA's communication or, again, contact with Oswald, but that 15 years later, the House Select Committee on Assassinations meets and the Congress says to the CIA, hey, look, we're going to need to look at these documents. | ||
| Can you do us a favor? | ||
| Can you send us a guy from CIA who had nothing to do with this whole Oswald situation, nothing to do with JFK, just sort of an independent guy in your agency, CIA, who can help us understand what's going on, get us the documents we need. | ||
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And the CIA says, oh, we've got just the guy for you, a guy who had no involvement in this. | |
| His name is George Joe Anites. | ||
| He just happened to be in Miami at the time. | ||
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He had nothing to do with this stuff because, you know, Oswald wasn't in Miami. | |
| And then Joe Adidas gets there. | ||
| And this, according to Robert Blakey, pardon me, who was the general counsel for the House Committee. | ||
| He says, I point blank asked Joe Anites at one point, hey, who's this Howard guy? | ||
| And Joe Anites is like, no clue. | ||
| We have no idea. | ||
| On this Thursday, that's when we find for the first time ever, there's a CIA document, a memo to Joe Anites that says, hey, you're going to have an alias. | ||
| And that alias first name is Howard. | ||
| It's Howard Mark Glabel or Brick. | ||
| I can't remember the exact last name. | ||
| It starts with the G, probably Gebler, pardon me. | ||
| Howard Mark Gebler. | ||
| So that is the first time where finally the CIA's cover story or allegation that Howard had nothing to do with Joe Needy's or any of this stuff, where they finally admitted, okay, look, we lied about that. | ||
| This is the G at the dinner with Gary Gary Hart at the Metropolitan Club, I think it was, with Angleton, he asked him point blank, he was the deputy head of the co-chairman of the church commission to look into it, look into everything that the CIA had been done. | ||
| The House intelligence hadn't been set up at that time to oversee this. | ||
| And he asked him point blank, did the CIA have anything to do with the assassination of John F. Kennedy? | ||
| And Angleton goes, his only answer was, in my father's house, there are many mansions. | ||
| And Hart went back to Mike Mansfield. | ||
| Mike Mansfield said, okay, we're not going to go there. | ||
| We're going to focus on sub-Saharan Africa and what they did there. | ||
| Mark Caputo, absolutely stunning. | ||
| Where do people go to get you at Axios and where do they get you on social media, sir? | ||
| Mark with a C, Mark A. Caputo on Twitter, X, or whatever you want to call it, and other platforms. | ||
| I do interact mostly on X, though. | ||
| And then on Axios, same thing. | ||
| I have an author page. | ||
| You can find me there at axios.com. | ||
| Caputo, great work. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Thanks, man. | ||
| Poso, two quotes that I remember from that day. | ||
| John Connolly, when he was there, when he started getting hit and the bullets were raining down, turned and said, they are going to kill us all. | ||
| They are going to kill us all. | ||
| And later that night, walking through a packed hallway with a puffed up left eye, Lee Harvey Oswald said, I've been here for 12 hours. | ||
| I haven't had an attorney. | ||
| And they asked you, did you kill the President of the United States? | ||
| They've only talked to him and charged him with killing Officer Tippett in the street, in that little side street. | ||
| And he said, I'm a Patsy. | ||
| You know, you're a naval intelligence officer. | ||
| In fact, that was one of the parts that was tied up in New Orleans. | ||
| They had a major naval intelligence because New Orleans was actually the trading area for the entire Caribbean from the United States. | ||
| It was actually, at the time, probably as important as Miami. | ||
| That's not today, but back then. | ||
| Your thoughts of this revelation, and tonight, they're having a meeting in the White House about continuing the war in Persia. | ||
| And it's based upon the very controversial John Ratcliffe and the very controversial intelligence that I don't know is the CIA or the Mossads. | ||
| I have no earthy idea because they have not disclosed that to anyone, sir. | ||
| Well, Steve, I think we do need to absolutely get to the bottom of anyone or anyone in our United States government, whether intelligence or otherwise, who has information about the killing of President Kennedy. | ||
| There's no question about that. | ||
| And, you know, I was at the Kennedy Center just this weekend for the 4th of July. | ||
| And Ambassador Grinnell had us there to the festivities. | ||
| And we're there with the kids. | ||
| And, you know, I'd like to be able to tell my children that story one day is what exactly happened to President Kennedy. | ||
| By the way, Steve, as we're looking at all this coming in, I think Bibi NetNyai, who has arrived at the White House, I'm not able to find any video of it yet. | ||
| There are some videos that have now been released by the Prime Minister's office. | ||
| He had Secretary of State Marco Rubio, as well as Envoy Witkoff over at Blair House earlier in the evening. | ||
| So they're releasing a few videos there where they had some perfunctory remarks. | ||
| They had to sit down before he went in with the president, crossed over from Blair House to the White House. | ||
| I don't think he stayed the night there. | ||
| He may be staying tonight, but he was certainly using it before he went over. | ||
| And we're hearing that, we're told that he is now at the White House. | ||
| Yet I'm just looking at Twitter. | ||
| I can't find any videos of it myself. | ||
| I do see videos of they've got a protest out there. | ||
| This is the third time that Netanyahu has visited the White House in President Trump's third, in President Trump's second term. | ||
| This is the third time that Netanyahu has visited President Trump. | ||
| We know he's been there pressing for these attacks really from the start for a strike on Iran and these nuclear facilities, this uranium enrichment facility. | ||
| And yes, now we're seeing, of course, these images of the Free Palestine protest. | ||
| I think that's the only thing. | ||
| The president of Palestine is not available. | ||
| Okay, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. | ||
| The president of the United States oversaw the most complicated military evolution since Normandy. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Or maybe the firebombing of Tokyo. | ||
| Right? | ||
| The president, this is not, they're not celebrating. | ||
| This is not a moment. | ||
| This is, they're not proud of what went on here. | ||
| Tel Aviv, Levin, and this whole crowd of Israel first. | ||
| There's something very wrong. | ||
| This is why they stopped. | ||
| And I'm not saying the Ayatollah should go. | ||
| The Ayatollahs, you want the Ayatollahs to go? | ||
| Take them out. | ||
| There's something deeply wrong here. | ||
| And it's predicated upon that Thursday, the sense of urgency in the upsell. | ||
| The urgency in the upsell. | ||
| And we have an agency and an institution in this country that says that the official from the Warren Commission, lone shooter and murderer and assassin of the President of the United States in broad daylight, was on their payroll. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| And then they lied about it for six decades. | ||
| Jack Pasovic. | ||
| One, Steve, I do just want to throw out there's a breaking report from Israel, actually, about the IDF and a big ambush tonight that took place in northern Gaza and Beit Hanoun, where five or six soldiers were killed all at once. | ||
| Again, early reports. | ||
| I'm just reading what I'm seeing out there. | ||
| As many as 10 more injured. | ||
| Huge ambush of Hamas up there in northern Gaza as a couple of these guys were coming down through. | ||
| So Netanyahu, of course, I'm sure has just been briefed on that that's going on. | ||
| And so these real questions, Steve, that are going to come down regarding this ceasefire. | ||
| Real questions are going to come in regarding, I think, all of this. | ||
| And ultimately, Yes, the question will become: where was the intelligence? | ||
| What came out? | ||
| What was acted upon? | ||
| What was the decision-making process? | ||
| What was the kill chain? | ||
| What was the kill chain that President Trump ultimately, and in his remit, and it is within his remit to make that choice? | ||
| But what was the kill chain all the way back? | ||
| And of course, when it comes to the CIA, by the way, on a day when everyone is rightfully upset at the intelligence community for covering up the Jeffrey Epstein files. | ||
| Look, I'm a guy who's got to walk around now. | ||
| People say, Jack, why didn't you release Epstein? | ||
| I went to the White House. | ||
| I met with the Attorney General. | ||
| She said she was going to release him. | ||
| She said she gave me something that was going to be a preliminary report. | ||
| And then guess what? | ||
| It was already stuff that had come out before. | ||
| And she said there was going to be more and there was no more. | ||
| She went on Fox News. | ||
| She had the list. | ||
| There was no list. | ||
| And now they say there's nothing. | ||
| So don't sit there and tell me, oh, we know everything, because time and time and time again, we get double talk. | ||
| The snakes that were around the Dulleses and the snakes that were around Kennedy and circling around him that murdered him in Dallas, Texas, those snakes still exist. | ||
| And they're around the White House and they're around the Oval Office today, this moment, as we speak. | ||
| And if you love President Trump and you back President Trump, we got to get to the bottom of this. | ||
| We got to turf these people out. | ||
| This republic is in the balance. | ||
| Jack Pasovic, social media, where do people get you tonight? | ||
| Because it's going to be, I think, a wild one, potentially. | ||
| I'm going to be at Jack Pasovic. | ||
| Of course, the book Unhumans, one year ago today, unhumansbook.com, forward by the great Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| You might read it while you're on a flight coming out of Dulles International Airport, but I don't know, Steve. | ||
| I think we got to rename that airport. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| We got to find a Ben Roosevelt, Teddy Roosevelt, something. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We need a new name over there. | ||
| Andrew Jackson, maybe? | ||
| I have to tell you, my beloved kid's sister. | ||
| That's the number one thing on her list, man. | ||
| She's on me every day about that. | ||
| Why Dulles' name's still on there? | ||
| Jack Basobic, thank you. | ||
| Eric Tietzel, we didn't get to Eric tonight. | ||
| We'll get to him tomorrow. | ||
| The great guys over at CRA, Center for Renewing America, all over the markup on Wednesday in the Senate of the National Defense Authorization Act. | ||
| There's still plenty of woke in there. | ||
| We're going to get Eric back up tomorrow. | ||
| Go through this entire thing. | ||
| Get ready to go to the ramparts. | ||
| I guess you're in the fight club, right? | ||
| You're here because you like fighting. |
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