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July 5, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4611: The Depravity Of The 'Ruling Class' With Megyn Kelly
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chip roy
06:11
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dalton rice
05:48
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megyn kelly
15:11
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steve bannon
12:41
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ben bergquam
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joe herring-jr
01:27
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mike lindell
01:29
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sheriff larry leitha
04:19
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tej gill
01:18
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jake tapper
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
Here's not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
It's number.
And then at two, we'll update you from where we are now.
And six, same thing.
And speaking this morning, we are going to have Kerk County Sheriff Larry Lieper leading us off.
United States Representative Chip Roy is here with us.
Kerville Mayor Joe Herring Jr. will be speaking briefly.
And Kerville City Manager Dalton Rice.
And when we are done, because we are still in active search and recovery mode, we're going to keep this short.
We'll allow five questions, and I am going to turn it over now to Sheriff Latha.
Thank you.
sheriff larry leitha
As probably a lot of y'all know, Sheriff Larry Letha, Kirk County.
One thing I want to tell you, I appreciate y'all covering this.
One thing I'm really big about is transparency.
Really appreciate y'all getting the message out there.
We will do our best.
Like you said, we'll have two more briefings out there to get you information as we get it.
What I want to start with, I want to make sure you understand.
These numbers I'm going to give you are at 8.55 a.m. this morning.
These are changing rapidly, okay?
So every time we, the next time we meet, I'll update you, but just bear with us, okay?
They will be changing.
They're already changing.
I'm up here and we'll try to do a really good job.
I've got some notes here I'm going to read because I want to be pretty accurate on this.
Then I'll talk a little bit before I turn it over to Chip Roy.
We are now more than 24 hours into this tragic event.
And Kerrville Police Department, Kerrville Fire Department, and Kirk County Sheriff's Office and other first responders from around the Texas are continuing to conduct rescue and recovery operations along the Guadalupe River corridor.
So far, we've evacuated over 850 uninjured people, eight injured people, and have recovered 27 deceased fatalities at this time.
Of these 27, 18 are adults, 9 are children.
Of that, 6 of the adults are unidentified, and 1 of the children are unidentified at this time.
That's of 8.55 this morning.
We're unable to release any further information on the deceased at this time as our thoughts and prayers go out to the loved ones.
We are working hard to locate anyone who is still missing and to ensure they are safe.
There are two ways that you can report the missing people.
This is something I would really like y'all to spend some time getting out.
One of the ways is via phone.
We have a call center set up to accept information and share that information along our relief and incident commanders.
That number is 830-285-1111.
I'll repeat, 830-285-1111.
ben bergquam
It's 258.
sheriff larry leitha
Correction.
258.
Sorry about that.
I'm going to repeat it one more time.
258-258.
Number for the final time is 830-258-1111.
Is everybody good?
Okay.
Second number, second way is via email.
Like the phone number, information received will be shared along our relief teams.
That email is floodrecovery at co.ker, K-E-R-R dot TX dot US.
Repeating one more time, floodrecovery at co.ker.tx.us There is a shelter for the general public who needs assistance at the First United Methodist Church, 321 Thompson Drive in Kerrville.
321 Thompson Drive Kerrville.
At present, we don't need material or volunteer donations at this time.
We are coordinating with a strong state response currently.
Cash donations can be made to the Community Foundation of the Texas Hill Country.
Once again, donations can be made to the Community Foundation of the Texas Hill Country.
Our first responders along have been working tirelessly and will continue to conduct search and rescue operations until all citizens are accounted for.
Tragic incidents like this affect us all.
This community is strong and will continue to pull together during this tragic time.
We have been humbled by the outpouring of support.
We are very appreciative of everyone that's stepped up to help us.
One thing I want to tell you and assure y'all is that we will not stop till every single person is found.
We've got all the resources we need.
We're here for the long haul.
As I said, numbers will be changing rapidly.
But like I said, we will not stop till everybody.
I can't tell you.
I've been asked how long will this take.
I can't tell you how long it's going to take.
It's going to take a while.
Appreciate y'all.
Like I said, getting the word out.
Like I said, after this is we're going to take about five questions.
At this time, I'm going to introduce you to United States Representative Chip Roy.
He's going to say a few words.
chip roy
Thank you, Sheriff.
I'll be brief.
You know, I'm here to show support for the community.
You know, my family comes here to Kerrville for 4th of July virtually every year.
Come here for Robert Old shows, and we were planning to be here for the show with Robert Old and Beckman.
But, you know, these are the events that we're dealing with today.
And trying to explain to a world that's watching this and asking questions what a flash flood looks like where you have a, you know, 26 to 30 foot rise in the water in a matter of an hour from 4 to 6 a.m. on a holiday and the people that are having to respond to that.
I just, I just got everybody like pause, take a breath for the recriminations and the Monday morning quarterbacking because there's so many great people in this community that are responding and moving quickly.
Lives lost, saving people, like camp directors.
And I'm going to let other people name names and stuff.
That's not my job here, but we know the stories of people that have been heroic in trying to make sure that the lives lost was at a minimum and trying to recover individuals.
I got a call and an update this morning.
My kids' school, there was one of their schoolmates was missing and was one of the kids.
She was on a mattress for two or three hours in the middle of the night.
And she's united with her mom.
And that's wonderful.
And those are the kind of blessings that we should be celebrating while we're also mourning the loss of life as we identify those that didn't make it and are now home with their Lord.
So I just want to appreciate the first responders, the coordinated effort from the state, local, and federal partnerships.
Yesterday I was on the phone with the President, with the Secretary.
I expect we'll have some additional visitors today.
I'll let other people talk about that.
But I couldn't even get the conversation out with the Secretary trying to explain to her what we were dealing with.
That doesn't happen often for me.
But it took me a while to collect myself to even be able to tell her what we were looking at.
And they've been fantastic, made available immediately at the request.
I talked to NIM about the need for help with the Army Corps.
Talk to the Secretary and their team and their immediate.
It's been an extraordinary partnership.
I think there's been a thousand or so boots on the ground combined between state, local, and federal.
I'll let them say the numbers, but obviously hundreds of people that have been rescued, 160 plus air rescues.
I think that number is going up.
You know, airlifting and taking in resources, some of these camps that are isolated.
So let's focus on that.
Let's focus on finding those who can be found, and then we can always assess what we need to do later going forward.
But extremely proud of this community.
Let's finish the job here over the next few days, support the local law enforcement and the first responders, and pray for the families, particularly those who have lost loved ones.
With that, I will turn it over to the mayor.
unidentified
Thanks, Joe.
Thank you.
joe herring-jr
I'm Mayor Joe Herring Jr., Mayor of Kirtle, Texas.
I'm glad you're here.
And I have a few comments to make.
People need to know that today will be a hard day.
It will be a hard day.
This is the message I want to share.
The city of Kerrville is thankful.
We have help from our city crews, from county personnel, from state agencies, and federal resources, including the Coast Guard.
I have been asked how people can help.
The sheriff has mentioned that a fund has been set up by the Community Foundation of the Texas Hill Country.
Information about this can be found on the city's Facebook page.
In fact, if you want to know how to help, I know from my phone, from my texts, from my emails, thousands of people across our state and the world want to know how they can help.
The easiest way to get information about that is to follow the City of Kerville Facebook page.
City of Kerrville, City Hall, Facebook page.
They have done an admirable job of making sure all resources and all information is available, not only to the citizens of Kerrville, but to the citizens of the world.
I'm thankful you're here.
unidentified
Today will be a hard day.
Please pray for our community.
joe herring-jr
Thank you.
Next up is City Manager Dalton Rice.
dalton rice
Thank you, Mayor.
Dalton Rice, the City Manager for the City of Kerrville.
Just wanted to give a couple updates on operations.
Operations did continue through the evening.
We use specialized equipment with a lot of helicopters, trying to identify any areas that we could find heat sources or whatever.
So operations did continue throughout the night.
Obviously, the water did recede into this morning.
I do want to encourage folks with road damage, even though a road may be open, please use extreme caution.
If water does get under the road, we are seeing a lot of debris, a lot of asphalt that is washing up, so there could be some other damaged areas.
We did start boots on the ground operations about 8 a.m. this morning and started about southwest of Hunt, so southwest of Camp Mystic.
These folks will be traveling very difficult terrain up through Ingram, and we're going to start getting information.
So again, as the sheriff had alluded to, the information is changing constantly and it's going to be changing by the minute.
Talk about roads.
Don't do your own searches.
We know everybody wants to get help.
As the roads start clearing up, you're going to want to get out there.
We are in constant communication with families.
We are in constant communication with those around.
And so we will continue to effortlessly work through working with our partners.
Again, we've been working with Border Patrol, Texas DPS, game wardens, federal side, U.S. Coast Guard is here.
We want to thank them.
Air assets, again, we have hundreds of state and federal and local resources out here supporting this community.
We do have grief counselors out there, so if there's anybody that needs any support, please don't hesitate to reach out as well.
We still are operating shelters.
Shelters are the same ones that we gave out before.
Good news is a lot of the shelters have gone down in numbers, so there's either been those that have been reunited or kind of moving on.
A couple of locations, we had 18 girls in there that have been reunited with their families.
We're down to about four that we're working on on reunification as well.
So reunification efforts are continuously ongoing from the missing person side.
Here over the next few hours, we're going to be putting more information out there as far as missing persons on how to contact if you have somebody that is missing or a loved one.
Y'all have the camp number right now.
We are continuously working on the other missing person side.
The best way that I could sum this up is: we have the known, which is the 27 potential missing campers that we're looking for now.
The unknown is how many people were here locally, visiting, on vacation, doing other things in the community that we just do not have numbers.
So these numbers are going to change throughout the day.
And with that, we will take five questions.
unidentified
On the missing individuals, the 27, are those all?
ben bergquam
All children.
And then also, do we know the total number of missing that you know of, not the unknowns, obviously, but the knowns of adults and children for the county?
dalton rice
No, the 27 missing is the children from Camp Mystic that we have as far as right now for the number.
As far as unknown, other missing, we do not have an accurate count and we don't even want to begin to estimate at this time.
unidentified
Can you extend on that summary?
A lot of people in the community, business owners, people that are living along the river, have said that they are very concerned the number will go up of the missing.
They want to know more about how you guys are working for them, what the efforts are, maybe even some of the challenges.
Can you teach that?
dalton rice
Yeah, absolutely.
So like I alluded to with the operations piece, we have basically a team of about 34 folks from Texas Task Force One, DPS, Game Wardens, and Border Patrol that are boots on the ground on each side of the river starting in hunt, and they're starting to make their way up.
Across this entire area, it's probably about a 17-kilometer stretch.
They are going to be in very debris terrain, very difficult, challenging contours along the riverbanks.
So it is a very harsh environment.
We are doing what's called a primary search, which is basically a very quick search.
But when I say quick, that is up, down, sideways.
They're turning over as many rocks as they can, culverts, up in trees.
They are looking at every possible location.
And then we'll start going into a layered approach.
Or what we also have from the locals, which has been a really great resource.
In the floods that we have, there are known collection points where debris tends to collect along the riverbank.
We do have intel on what sites and locations those are, so we can also put additional resources into those collection sites and start getting a more focused approach on that.
unidentified
We've seen a lot of traffic flooding.
We've seen a lot of traffic flooding in central Texas over the past few weeks.
There are so many people, I know this is so early, but there are so many people already asking what can be done to stop the loss of life.
We saw 13 in San Antonio.
We have seen an unknown number, but at least 27 here.
They're scared.
dalton rice
Yeah, you know, it's a great question, and I think that's a question that we definitely need to answer at some point in time.
Right now, our focus is on the search and rescue efforts, making sure that we get these families out, get some closure where we can.
And so I think that is a great question that we need to ask ourselves.
But right now, we want to focus on search and rescue operations.
Yes, we have been in continuous search and rescue operations.
Again, this river, even though it started in West Kerr, this goes all the way down through East Kerr County and is continuing on to the southeast.
So yes, search and rescue operations are continuously ongoing, and we'll continue to update on that.
One more question.
unidentified
Where are you finding these folks right now who active rescues this morning?
Are they stuck in an island of land?
Where are they?
dalton rice
Typically rescues, if we do find them, they're going to be in trees or we find them either on high ground.
Again, most of the rescues that we are having at this point in time are other camps.
So we have a lot of camps and they are all accounted for, but they are isolated because of road damage.
So we know where they're at.
We're getting them food, water, resources, and now it's a matter of just getting them safely across low water crossings or other areas to other shelters.
unidentified
There's pictures and there's names and all this stuff.
Are you going to give a list of the names of the kids?
dalton rice
Absolutely not.
We are not going to give a list of the names.
We want to protect those families and their information.
The other thing I want to point out, and thank you for bringing that up, these families are getting bombarded with spam calls and spam information.
So we want to keep the kids' information and these families' names out of any public light to give them the opportunity to grieve and to make sure that we give them the best possible resources that we can and get them reconnected as soon as possible.
So some of them are, and some of those have been a great help as well.
So yes, it is a double-edged sword, but we need to work through it.
So our next one will be at 2 o'clock, and we will give updates then.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
Okay.
Ben Berkwom asked the first question.
It was a great question.
Let me be blunt.
When the town manager comes up and says it's going to be a very tough day today, I think that's a tell.
And I think everybody, including the audience, is back on your knees saying prayers.
But when the governor and lieutenant governor do not show up, I think that's also a big tell.
This is a pretty grim report.
I'm not sure there was a ton of information there, except that search and rescue go on, and they are identifying some of these, or they are finding some of these children.
But you didn't see any names of the living.
I think that was the most important thing.
Is Ben Berquam?
Can we get Ben Berquam up?
As soon as we get Ben up, let's go ahead and do it.
Obviously, a horrible tragedy.
I think what Chip Roy said, just to reiterate, and look, there's going to be, as you saw, two things going on that are, you know, one is just human nature.
There's a lot of recriminations you should know already about the weather forecast, what people knew, where people evacuate.
That's only going to build in size, given a tragedy of this scale.
The other is social media used to harass parents in this case.
You saw where they're getting spam.
They probably get people, you know, we see this stuff already putting out names of children that have been found or not alive.
I mean, what they're doing is horrible.
They're probably trying to get money out of these folks.
So the parents right now, that's where we're going to restrict information.
Give me a thumbs up when we got Ben up, okay?
Ben Berquam, and I really want to give him a atta boy.
He had the first question and still the best question right there.
Ben, we got a couple of minutes here.
That was a pretty grim update.
Number one, when the mayor sits there and tells you today's going to be a tough day, folks should understand that, you know, it's going to be a tough day.
He knows something.
Also, and I'm not faulting the governor or the lieutenant governor, but if there was a lot of good news on children being rescued, I think the governor, lieutenant governor, would want to be there.
You can already see the intensity of the recriminations, I think, in that this morning was the local officials.
Can you give it, you asked the first question, it's a brilliant question.
I'm not sure.
Did he actually answer the question?
Ben, do we actually have just the basic information of the Christian girls' camp at Mystic?
How many nine-year-olds are missing?
How many have been rescued?
And have they recovered any bodies of the rest, sir?
ben bergquam
Yeah, yeah.
So, and I'm standing next to Chip Roy.
We're going to try to grab him here in just a second.
This is, so he did answer part of the question.
The main question was, out of those numbers, how many are those children?
Are they children?
Are they adults?
So the 27 missing from Camp Mystic are the children.
There are additional, obviously, more adults.
The last number I heard was still 30 to 50.
So that number is unknown.
But those are the known missing.
The big question is the unknown missing.
And he didn't answer.
steve bannon
Okay.
ben bergquam
But hang on.
steve bannon
But hang on.
I know, but hang on, which is terrible.
This is the first time I think that question.
Even Chambers and Peter didn't know that from their things.
I just want to make sure he got the answer.
You asked the question about the children at Camp Mystic.
His answer was 27.
So it's not 23, it's 27.
Am I to take that as 27?
ben bergquam
Yeah, the missing.
So they've found nine of the girls deceased from the camp.
They said another 18 adults, but there are still 27 missing from Camp Mystic.
And we do have Congressman Chip Roy, who just joined us, Steve.
steve bannon
Chip, thank you for joining us.
I know a terrible time, but talk to us about your first statement about the biblical nature of this 26 feet in 45 minutes, and I think 40 feet in just over an hour, the rising of this river, sir.
ben bergquam
Yes, Chip, I'm just going to have to relay the question.
So talk to us about the first comments you made about the biblical nature of this.
When you say, you know, people that don't understand what that flash flood, when it rises 20 feet, 30 feet, what that actually looks like.
chip roy
Yeah, I mean, like, this is an area that's unique.
It's beautiful.
That's why there's so many camps here where the river cuts through this part of the hill country.
People don't think Texas, they think, oh, it's flat.
And all of a sudden, this is a very hilly area.
And it's just, well, we had about, I don't know, 13, 14 inches of rain in a very short period of time.
It was like a wheelbarrow was just dumped right into the corridor.
And so you had a 26 to 30 foot rise in the water in about an hour.
That's just, you can't really prepare for that sort of a thing.
It was a unique situation.
It happened at 4 a.m. to 6 a.m., the absolute worst time when people are asleep.
It's still dark out.
And, you know, look, there's a lot of heroic efforts that have been underway.
You know, I was just talking about a woman, a camp director, who lost her life, you know, saving kids.
People, all these first responders who are out here doing the Lord's work.
There's been some miraculous stories.
One of my kids' schoolmates, she was alive after, you know, middle of the night, you know, staying on a mattress, floating for a few hours.
But obviously, we've had some heartache, and there's going to be some more heartache today.
But we remain hopeful as we continue to do the search and rescue operation.
And we've got to just continue to keep these families in our prayer.
It's tragic.
I mean, the camp community here is real rich.
It's been here for decades, right?
And a lot of people send a guy.
I was just on the phone with one of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle.
She herself went to the camps here.
She was actually here for the last huge flood in 1987.
They happen every once in a while.
But this one was, you know, this one was something like we've never seen before.
So, you know, we just got to keep working today to try to do what we can for these families and keep the search operation going.
steve bannon
Ben, ask the Congressman, is he keeping the president personally, is he updating the president personally?
ben bergquam
Are you updating the president personally or is there communication directly?
chip roy
You know, private communications.
But yeah, I mean, I've been having, I talked to the president yesterday, I talked to Secretary Noam yesterday.
I've been keeping the White House up to date and his staff.
And we'll be having constant conversations.
The governor's in constant conversations.
I expect the governor to be back here today.
I think the Secretary might be here today.
It's a coordinated effort, state, local, federal.
We've gotten all the resources we've asked for.
And yesterday we asked for some support in Army Corps, immediately got it.
There's air assets here.
We've had 160 air operations.
But a lot of that credit goes, as it should, to the state and local guys.
Federal comes in to do what they can.
But Governor Abbott and NIMKID, I can't say enough about TDEM, the Texas Department of Emergency Management.
I've worked too much with NIM, frankly, between COVID and this and other things, but he's a good man and he's doing a great job.
steve bannon
Ben, find out where can we get in touch?
How do we follow Chiproy today while he's down there on social media?
ben bergquam
How do we best follow you while you're here, getting any updates for the folks that want to?
chip roy
Yeah, well, first of all, there's going to be a bigger briefing in the early afternoon.
I think we'll have a little bit more information.
You can always follow me on Twitter at Chiproy T-X, C-H-I-P-R-O-I-T-X, or my official account, Rep Chiproy.
We're putting out what we can, but I'm pretty conservative in what I put out.
Other people are throwing stuff out there.
I want to wait.
We need families to get noticed.
We need to take this methodically, do it the right way.
People have lost loved ones.
There's people out here, all the folks on the camps, understandably, these young girls, but there are adults, people here in Kerrville that are being directly impacted.
I saw a story of a couple that was swept away.
They'd come down here and they were in a cabin, and other folks that are locals.
And so, you know, we've got to just keep doing Our work to try to get the facts out there.
But we'll all come together.
We're resilient, we're Texans, and we'll figure out how to move forward from this.
But right now, we just got to finish the job these next few days.
ben bergquam
Thank you, sir.
chip roy
Thanks.
ben bergquam
God bless you.
Yeah, and Steve, the big message for everybody out there is pray.
Pray, pray, pray, pray for this community.
Go ahead, Steve.
steve bannon
Ben, can you hang on?
I'm going to go to an interview I just did with Megan Kelly.
I want you to hold for the end of the show.
We'll get any more wrap-up and any more information, and we'll tee up the 2 p.m. Central Time, 3 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time.
Another press conference with updates.
So, Ben Berquam, just hang on.
I'm going to come right back to you, okay?
Okay.
Not a lot of good news out of Kerzville.
That's what we need.
Prayer.
We're going to go back to Ben Berquam before we sign off at 12 noon Eastern Daylight Time.
I was very fortunate to be able to do an interview with Megan Kelly.
I want to play that in its entirety.
If Denver could go ahead, let's kick into Megan Kelly, and I'll be back right after it.
Megan Kelly.
Megan, on this 4th of July weekend, it kicks off really the year leading up to our 250th commemoration anniversary as a country.
You know, very few republics have made it this long.
There's this theory that a republic will only last about 200 to 250 years, like the Roman Republic and others that come before us.
Given last weekend, I spent in New York called up there to kind of go through some analysis and data, what happened in this election to see if there's anything to be done.
What is your pull back the camera for a minute?
What is making Kelly think about the arc of our country?
Where are we now?
And given your experience, particularly in New York City, when you're at Fox News in Midtown Manhattan, what is happening there now and kind of the arc of the story?
megyn kelly
If you just looked, if you zoomed in on what's happening in a city like New York or San Francisco or LA or Chicago, I think you'd be very pessimistic about the direction of the country, especially if this were 2023 instead of 2025, and we had Joe Biden at the top of the government, the federal government.
And in particular, when it comes to our culture.
I mean, you talk about end times of the Roman Empire and other great empires.
You start to see things like total debauchery spread across the culture, the loss of the nuclear family, the loss of the connection to faith.
And we're seeing that more and more on the left in these big cities.
And the left runs our best and biggest cities.
Unfortunately, they're running them right into the ground.
But you're seeing just sort of the sort of the dehumanization of people, the disconnection from God and from faith of any kind, the running away from family and childbearing as something that's somehow evil or bad for you or awful to do.
You know, transhumanism, you're seeing thruples.
You're seeing the rent-a womb become a thing.
I mean, it's just, it's dark.
It's dark.
The whole trans thing with the men pretending to be women and women telling other women that they're bigots if they don't accept that and if they stand up for themselves is very sick.
It's a sick culture in a lot of ways.
I mean, you look back, not to sound too Pollyanna about it, but you look back at 1950s and the 1960s and you turned on the music on the radio.
And what did you hear about?
You heard about sweet love between puppy love teenagers and families and how the guy really wished he could get the girl and don't know what a slide ruler's for.
You know, it's just sweet and sort of G-rated.
And you turn on the radio today and you literally hear songs about wet ass P-word, celebrated and then written up by the New York Times like some sort of modern day genius.
So it's dark.
The culture's really slid.
And just turn on the television for any Super Bowl, for any music event, any celebratory event of artists of any kind, whether it's music or acting or Broadway.
And you see nudity in your child's face.
You see J-Lo's badge, which you didn't ask to see.
It's like the snapshot would be bleak.
Would have you feeling like it is end times.
But the country is not just blue states and blue cities run by Democrats.
It's still, I think, majority center right.
And as has happened repeatedly in history, I think it's correcting now.
It's recognized that it was lulled into a sense of complacency, being told that you had to accept all of these things or you were bad.
You were a judgmental person, which no one really wants to be.
And the country has realized that too many things have slipped out of control into a very negative, even arguably evil place.
And it's fighting back.
The election of Trump stood for so much more than just let's make the Trump tax cuts permanent and clean up what's happening at the southern border.
It was definitely those things, but it was about so much more.
You know, how many times have you heard people say, we don't have to do that anymore?
We elected Trump.
And it applies across our culture because it's not just Trump.
It's the middle finger that is Trump.
It's the right and the normies standing up against the erosion of decency.
So that's my initial response.
And I just think we've let something that's really important slide for too long.
And I think, you know, we're at risk at overcorrecting like we always do.
You know, you have to watch out.
You can't get Puritan like the left did in its holistic messages about how you're not allowed to speak this way and you're not allowed to think that way.
We on the right have got to watch that and not sort of start judging each other too harshly.
But we're on a good course right now toward correction.
I don't think the downward slide is as rapid as it was just 18 months ago.
steve bannon
Dude, the course of American history has always been predicated upon the people and the people ultimately making decisions about what direction we head.
But we've always had an elite that was culturally very attuned with the underpinnings and the foundational elements of the Judeo-Christian West.
Can we turn this around as a populist movement, right?
Can we turn this around when you have elites and elites educational institutions?
I mean, a lot of our analysis about what's happened in New York is that the breeding ground of this, the recruiting ground for the get out the vote activity is places like Hunter College and Columbia University.
They've used the universities and all the way down the indoctrination of not just public schools, but really even worse, the private schools, the high-end private schools, that we've created now a group of elites that not only do not believe in the underlying tenets of the Judeo-Christian West, but actually are quite anti-American and hate America and hate what America stands for.
Ma'am.
megyn kelly
Yeah, you're totally right.
I mean, I've lived that through my own children and their exposure to that education and my friends who have college age and younger children as well.
I'll just give you one example.
When my kids were in this most prestigious boys' school, really one of them in the country in New York City, they had to write little essays in like the second grade, I think it was, why I'm a feminist.
Why are you having my child say he's a feminist?
We don't embrace that.
Even I don't say I'm a feminist and I'm their mother.
So it starts very, very young.
Then the trans stuff was heaped on them in the third grade, trying to inject some question about what gender they might actually be with a bunch of boys in the boys' school that had absolutely no questions.
And then you fast forward to the college years, I've got a good friend whose child is at NYU and was forced to write an essay about how capitalism is bad.
And she doesn't feel that way, but she needed to write that because that was the assignment.
And if you wrote anything other than that, you weren't going to get a very good grade.
She wants to get into grad school.
And so she needed to get a good grade.
And so she wrote it.
She just did it.
She went along to get along.
And that's how you get ahead at these elite institutions, whether it's at the K through 12 level or above.
So you're right.
There's been complete capture.
And that's why those same kids coming out of NYU and other institutions that are teaching the same thing look at Zoran Mamdami and they think, yeah, he's right.
Capitalism does suck.
We do need socialism.
And then we get the myth that, you know, Sweden is some utopia and it's fully socialist and it's not.
And every time they lean more socialist, they have to correct it and go back to a form closer to capitalism.
And by the way, I was in Sweden literally 12 months ago.
And yeah, there are a lot of things that are, quote, free.
It's free for the freeloaders, but the people who actually earn have taxes that are in the mid-70s, mid-70, where they want to pay 75% tax to your government so that your freeloading neighbor doesn't have to work hard.
It completely kills any urge to innovate.
What has Sweden invented in the past 50 years?
Anything coming to mind?
Do they have an Elon Musk?
I know you don't like him, but I'm just saying he's one of our best inventors.
We have people in America who invent great things.
We've got Bill Gates, you know, we've got Jeff Bezos.
And yes, they're this elitist class, but they make real things.
They come up with new innovative things.
Mark Zuckerberg, what do they have?
Socialism doesn't encourage any sort of invention or innovation, and it leaves you just a flat-lined economy.
So I think these people are being brainwashed, and they don't read history because they're not allowed to.
All they read is Howard Zinn telling them how bad America is.
Another personal example.
When we were looking for schools for our kids as Manhattanites, we went to one, Fieldston, which is very well respected.
It's a very tony school in sort of the lower Bronx.
And they talked about how the entire third grade is spent making the children fall in love with the Native Americans.
The entire third grade, that's all they do in history or social studies in third grade.
And then fourth grade, the entire fourth grade is spent on how we killed them all and how we committed a genocide and how evil the white man is.
Like, what?
It starts young.
So the indoctrination is baked in.
Most parents happily hand their child over this, over to this, because they really want you to get into Harvard.
Well, it used to be a world in which you could learn actual things, but now it's just all that indoctrination times 100, that indoctrination on steroids.
And then we're confused when the bum damis of the world actually score a win.
So on that front, I think we're on a collision course because they're going to do it.
This guy is going to get elected unless something extraordinary happens between now and November.
And we're just going to have to relearn lessons we learned already about what happens when you put far-left socialist Democrats in charge of our major cities.
Nothing good.
steve bannon
How can we turn the country around?
I keep arguing, this is one of the reasons I was so against the potential of getting dragged in to a regime change war in Persia, is that the central front of this Third World War is in the United States and particularly in the big sanctuary cities, Los Angeles, Chicago, now New York.
You have three of the greatest cities in the world and certainly the three greatest cities in the United States of America that are essentially run by, and I come from Richmond, Virginia, neo-Confederates, politicians and people that think they don't have to comply with federal law and not disagreements on the margin of federal law, just think that they can dictate their own laws.
And if they want to make non-citizens essentially citizens, they'll just do it.
And you saw what happened in Los Angeles.
How can we actually take the country back and get on the right path politically, economically, when we have three of the greatest cities on earth that are controlled by people that hate our values and refuse to comply with federal law, ma'am?
megyn kelly
I mean, I have to think it's the same answer you and I have discussed on the lawfare that the Democrats unleashed on Trump, which is we have to let them suffer on the other side in the same way.
In other words, let them elect Brandon Johnson in Chicago and see how that goes.
He has an 11% approval rating.
Let them elect Mom Dami in the world's greatest city, New York City, and see what that does to Manhattan, to the billionaire class whose taxpaying dollars we are dependent on in order to keep the city running.
We're already a shadow of our former selves in New York.
I lived in New York 17 years, 17 of the past 20.
I've been in New York City.
And when I got there under the early Bloomberg years, post-Giuliani, it was, you could eat off the sidewalks.
Sanitation worked.
Public works worked.
The subway was clean and safe.
That's why I chose to have three children while living there and raised toddlers in that city.
Now it's a shadow of its former self.
You can't walk down a block without stepping over garbage, homeless people, human feces.
That's thanks to all these years of Democrat rule.
Mayor Bill de Blasio ruined the city and Eric Adams didn't do a whole hell of a lot to improve it.
And so now they want to go, they want to double down on stupid.
So I kind of think they need to feel the full effects of their decisions.
They need to actually feel the pain.
Why don't we do the mom damn plan where we drive every one of New York's 123 billionaires out?
Let them go to Greenwich.
You know, let them go to some beautiful town in New Jersey.
It's really not hard to find another place to live in the tri-state area for billionaires and see what happens to the tax base.
And not just them, but the 100 billionaires who populate the Upper East Side who voted for Cuomo.
Let's let them feel the pain that comes with the public housing projects.
Mamdami wants to move right into the heart of Manhattan, like right on Central Park, so that everybody going for an afternoon stroll with their kids has to deal with that kind of person who's living in the public housing projects in Manhattan.
It's a nightmare.
And I really feel like only when they feel the full pain of it and see what they voted for, what it got them, are they going to start voting differently?
I think Chicago is going to vote differently.
Don't forget Chessa Boudin, that radical weather underground cyan of Bill Ayers.
He was recalled as the San Francisco DA.
The San Francisco School Board had a revolution.
Like even in San Francisco, they started to see reason.
Bit by bit in Chicago, they're starting to see reason.
New York apparently needs another four years of lessons in this guy.
I'm sorry, but I think they probably have to get it if we want real change to eventually come.
steve bannon
The weekend I was, last weekend I was there doing this analysis and looking at data.
And by the way, 100% agree with you, unless there's some miracle and people drop out, they're going to get Mondambi.
And quite frankly, maybe they deserve him.
And you got to play it out and see how it turns out because it'll burn the city to the ground.
At the same time, you're inundated on social media with the Bezos wedding.
And so when Mondambi goes, I don't know if we need billionaires, you look at the Bezos wedding, and not that you agree with them.
So glad you said that.
Compare and contrast that.
I mean, when these young kids who don't know anything are talking about Scravva's thing, they said we don't need billionaires.
You have the Bezos thing in your face for 72 hours.
Your thoughts, ma'am?
megyn kelly
I'm so glad you raised that.
I've been wrestling with it too.
It's disgusting.
Like the in-your-face display of extreme wealth.
And honestly, like for me, it wasn't even the vogue spread or the fake friends at their wedding.
It just hit the papers today.
I asked myself on the show and asked my audience, what the hell was Sidney Sweeney doing at the Bezos Sanchez wedding?
Everybody knows this young starlet doesn't know these two.
Why is she there?
And I'd speculated that sometimes agents, and she might be represented by Aria Emmanuel.
I didn't check, but sometimes they'll cut a deal, like get my client invited to this thing so she'll be a headliner.
What it actually appears is she starred in some movie that Amazon has a producing role in.
And so her boss, Jeff Bezos, invited her, even though they don't know each other, to his wedding.
He obviously just wanted a headline with her name in it.
That's how vapid these people are.
I mean, I'm sorry, who would extend that invitation and who would go?
Both of these people are just completely vapid.
And so you look at, so anyway, that wasn't the worst.
The worst of it for me was the shot of them on the yacht and their yacht has a yacht, you know, their yacht has its own yacht, the second yacht that travels along with all the yachts' trappings, like the helicopter.
And reportedly, it's where he makes her go when the Kardashians come to visit for their weird parties, because who the hell wants to be seen with a Kardashian?
And on their yacht, they had a foam party in their yacht's pool.
Their yacht has a pool.
You know, some of these big, big boats might have a hot tub.
Theirs has a pool.
And they dumped all this foam in it so they could frolic in the foam.
And you see the foam dripping off of the main yacht into the beautiful Mediterranean in Venice.
And you think, how little respect do you have for anything?
Like I, it's not too far afield from, I went to the Met Gala a couple of years, Steve.
I used to be an Anna Wintour favorite when she thought I was a Trump foil.
And what I saw in there was stomach turning.
I saw this same class of people.
They make tens of millions, in some cases, hundreds of millions.
And yes, indeed, there were billionaires there too.
I talked with a lot of them.
And you go into the bathroom at the Met Gala, and all I saw was wall-to-wall Kardashians, yes, and fake influencer supermodels, smoking cigarettes among our classic works of art, couple dry humping one another.
By the way, Sean Diddy Combs was in there.
Absolutely disrespectful, doing drugs, not the Kardashians.
I'm not going to name who was doing that, but this was witnessed, okay?
In one of our most celebrated places of homes of art that we're lucky enough to have in Manhattan and in the United States.
It's the same thing.
And this is our so-called ruling class.
These are the ones whose endorsement during the presidential election is supposed to matter.
And Jeff Bezos somehow finagles an invitation to the inauguration where he steps behind President Trump.
What did he do to help President Trump get inaugurated?
His Washington Post ripped on Trump every day.
You know, it was absurd to me that he was anywhere within striking distance of Trump, not to mention his now bride, I'm sorry, with her tits hanging out.
Totally disrespectful.
Chrissy Teigen going to the White House correspondence dinner with her badge hanging out, with her skirt so high, literally showing her underwear.
It's disrespectful.
And there is this so-called ruling class that doesn't understand anything about regular Americans.
So that's why there's this huge, vapid hole that's ripe for exploitation by a guy like Mom Dami, who smiles a lot and is kind of cheery and likable just in terms of delivery, saying, geez, New York is too expensive.
I'm going to fix it.
That's literally what he ran on.
It was like those two lines.
It was very simple.
It was very appealing.
And you think, yes, it is too expensive.
Why am I living paycheck to paycheck and have to worry about my grocery store bill when I'm looking at the phone party and these morons who are, you know, going to the Met Gala at their $85,000 a ticket, smoking cigarettes and doing drugs?
And I'm told I'm a bad person if I don't relate to them.
I don't get into these elite colleges.
They judge me for my community college or for not going to college.
Yes, I hate them.
And so it does, that too, the Bezos Sanchez wedding And everything around them feels end times-ish.
It does feel late Roman Empire, and that's yet another reason why I don't think those two are a force for good.
steve bannon
Late Roman Empire.
Well, we know the bayonaire married the stripper.
Megan Kelly, fantastic.
You and I got our work cut out for us in the run-up to America's 250th birthday.
So thank you so much.
Where do people get your podcast and all your writings?
megyn kelly
Well, you can catch me at youtube.com slash MeganKelly or wherever you get your podcast for free.
Steve Bannon, it's an honor to serve alongside you.
steve bannon
Megan Kelly, I like being in the trenches with you.
We've got to fix bayonets this year.
Thank you, ma'am.
Appreciate you.
Have a great rest of the weekend.
megyn kelly
Thank you, you too.
steve bannon
We're going to be back in a moment for a wrap-up for our 4th of July weekend special.
Back in a moment.
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steve bannon
I want to thank Real America's voice, Ben Burkhomb, everybody.
Amazing coverage and more to come throughout the day on this tragedy in Texas.
Ben's going to wrap up the show for us here in a few minutes.
Taj Gil, Taj, today I think we're going to need a lot of coffee, a lot of Warpath coffee.
It's going to be a long day.
The mayor told us it's going to be a tough day.
I want to put the coffee forward because I know people are going to want to stay up.
We got press conferences, I think, at 3 o'clock, another press conference at 7 o'clock, and maybe even one later.
Ben Burkholm's going to be there.
Taj, what do you got for us?
Where do people go?
tej gill
You go to Warpath.coffee, and I just want to say that my family and I will be praying for Texas today.
It's a huge tragedy going on there.
And then later on today or tomorrow, we'll be making a donation from Warpath Coffee to one of these funds for the victims of the floods in Texas.
But we're doing 25% off this weekend.
The website is warpath.coffee.
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So stock up this weekend if you need coffee.
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And our hearts and prayers go out to the families in Texas.
And we will be praying for them and wish them all the luck.
And let's hope that the first responders do an amazing job.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Prayers with them too.
Taj, one more time.
Where do people go?
You got the decaf.
You got today.
I'm not sure is a day for decaf, but where do they go, sir?
tej gill
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Use promo code warroom.
That's for the war room posse.
It's 25% off this weekend until Sunday night.
Stock up.
Like I said, we won't be doing a sale this big again until Black Friday.
So this is the weekend to stock up.
We've already sold out of our espresso.
People have been buying tons of it.
steve bannon
So warpath.coffee promo code war room 25 off the espresso is unbelievable uh incredible thank you tej i'll see you on monday we'll get caught up on this tragedy and make a donation i'll always go make a donation in one of those fun send there thank you mike lindell i know you work with thank you brother mike i know you work with samaritan's purse you're already talking about making a donation on a very tragic uh weekend what do you got for sir yeah i'm in texas right now everybody and uh yes my first call will
mike lindell
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And so everything you get today from MyPillow, we're going to be donating huge donations to these victims and to this tragedy.
So you guys, we're going to run the 4th of July special.
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steve bannon
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p.m uh eastern time eastern daylight time there'll be another press conference and then it looks like seven o'clock at least for the two scheduled today am i correct in that sir yeah that that's correct steve uh two local three eastern and six local seven eastern and you're going to be down throughout the day uh mo and grace we're going to stream it live on our getter and our rumble and all our platforms of course real america's voice going to have it ben will be up everywhere uh ben maybe we can get you if we go live on one of
streams this afternoon, given the information.
I just want to be, before we leave, you still asked the best question.
I just want to make sure there's no doubt about this.
You asked the head of recovery, the director of operations about the little girls at the mystic camp.
And correct me if I'm wrong, because there was some confusion throughout the day.
He said that there's 27 of these nine-year-olds, these little girls from the mystic camp that search and rescue efforts to date have not recovered those 27 children correct that's correct they've recovered nine uh deceased, but there are 27 that are still missing.
ben bergquam
They've recovered many more that were alive, and they've reunited them with their family.
But there are, I specified that those 27 are all children from the Mystic camp, all young girls from the Mystic camp that are still missing.
steve bannon
And if you see the horribleness of social media and what they're doing, the families, that's why they're not putting out names of the children they're doing search and rescue for because they're spamming the families, they're bothering the families, they're trying to get money from the families to do own rescue.
Am I correct in that?
So that's why they said they're not putting the names out?
ben bergquam
Yeah, yeah, that's right, Steve.
And if you don't mind, I felt like this at Uvalde, and I just would love to end this with a prayer for the families and the little girls that are still missing as a dad who didn't get to get home to my girls.
I've got three girls.
I didn't get to get home to them last night, but I get to get home to them.
And Lord, I just lift them up to you right now, especially if there's any girls that are still alive that are afraid they're alone.
I just pray you'd be with them right now.
You'd lift them up.
You'd let them know that you're there.
And the families, Lord, that have lost their children or haven't even found out yet that they've lost their children.
Lord, I pray in this situation that you would be the God of comfort to this community, but you would do miracles from now on.
And we would see miracles happen that girls, kids that thought were gone, that you'd bring back, Lord.
I just pray for your hand on this community and this state and this nation.
In Jesus' name, amen.
steve bannon
Ben, thank you.
Where do people go for your social media?
ben bergquam
At Real America's Voice.
It's at Real AM Voice.
And then my personal is just my name, Ben Berkwam.
steve bannon
Amen, Ben.
Be strong.
We're dependent upon you today for coverage.
Appreciate you.
ben bergquam
Yep.
Amen.
steve bannon
I want to thank Real America's Voice and everybody that made this possible.
Remember, 3 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, there'll be another press conference.
Real America's Voice will cover it.
We'll stream it on Getter.
We'll stream it on our Rumble channel.
I'll be coming in and out throughout the day, particularly if we hear any news.
And 7 p.m., this tremendous tragedy in central Texas.
Real America's Voice coverage is going to continue right now.
I want to thank the Real America's Voice team for this incredible coverage they provided us over the 4th of July weekend.
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