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July 4, 2025 - Bannon's War Room

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Episode 4607: WarRoom July 4th Special

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steve bannon

24:28

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joe meacham

02:01

patrick k odonnel

01:45

paul giamatti

01:25

roy guo

02:40

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jake tapper

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paul giamatti ▲ ● ▼		We must expect a great expense of blood to obtain.
unidentified		Thank you.
paul giamatti ▲ ● ▼		But we must always remember that the free constitution of civil government cannot be purchased at too dear a rate, as there is nothing on this side of Jerusalem of greater importance to mankind.
		My worthy colleague from Pennsylvania has spoken with great ingenuity and eloquence.
		He has given you a grim prognostication of a national future.
unidentified		But where he foresees apocalypse, I see hope.
paul giamatti ▲ ● ▼		I see a new nation ready to take its place in the world.
		Not an empire, but a republic, and a republic of laws, not men.
		Ladies and gentlemen, we are in the very midst of revolution, the most complete, unexpected, and remarkable of any in the history of the world.
		How few of the human race have ever had an opportunity of choosing a system of government for themselves and their children.
unidentified		I am not without apprehensions, gentlemen.
unidentified		But the end we have in sight is more than worth all the money.
paul giamatti ▲ ● ▼		believe says that the hour has come.
		My judgment approves this measure, and my whole heart is in it.
		All that I have, all that I am, and all that I hope in this life, I am now ready to stake upon it.
		While I live, let me have a country, a free country.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		Thank you.
paul giamatti ▲ ● ▼		Altogether unexpected.
paul giamatti ▲ ● ▼		not only a declaration of our independence but of the rights of all men now this is this is this is well said sir This is very, very well said.
unidentified		The Christian hatred of Great Britain has waged cruel war against human nature itself in the persons of a distant people who never offended it, captivating and carrying them into slavery in another hint.
		You lay the evils of slavery at the feet of the king, but you say nothing of slavery itself, sir.
		Surely, if the trade is outlawed, but ownership is not, then those unfortunate negroes still in servitude will become a more lucrative commodity.
		Well, that's not what I intended, Dr. Franklin.
		Slavery is an abomination and must be loudly proclaimed as such, but I own that neither I nor any man has any immediate solution to the problem.
		But it doesn't matter.
		The issue before us is independence and not emancipation.
		Dr. Franklin, this document is, I think, something our friends in the Congress will debate, but I would be very surprised if they will countenance an attack on slavery.
		No.
		We hold these truths to be sacred and undeniable, that all men are created equal, etc.
		Sacred and undeniable.
		Smacks of the pulpit.
		Does it?
		These truths are self-evident, are they not?
		Perhaps.
		Self-evident, then.
		Self-evident?
		Self-evident.
paul giamatti ▲ ● ▼		Self-evident.
unidentified		Do not mistake me, sir.
		I. I share your sentiment.
		Every single word was precisely chosen.
		I assure you of that, Dr. Franklin.
		Yes, but yours will not be the only hand in this document.
		It cannot be.
		They will try to mangle it, and they may succeed.
		There may be expressions which I would not have inserted if I had drawn it up, but I will defend every word of it.
		Well, it's what I believe.
		This is a marvelous invention, Mr. Jefferson.
		Yes, I went through a number of variations.
		This is by far the most successful.
		Simplest is always the best.
		It's two seats, and the top one swivels on rollers made from the window sash pulleys.
		Oh, most ingenious.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
		Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on these people.
		Here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people.
		The people have had a belly full of it.
		I know you don't like hearing that.
		I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
		It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
		MAGA Media.
		I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's Friday, 4 July, the 4th of July in the year of our Lord 2025.
		It's Independence Day.
		And of course, here always on Independence Day and our other great civic holidays, we try to get the music and the tempo right.
		We're live today and honored to be doing this and thanking Real America's Voice and the complete staff of Real America's Voice for making this happen.
		We always open these days with footage or film or music that tries to bring back and so you can commemorate actually what happened.
		Today, throughout the morning commemoration, we'll be playing clips from, I think, two masterpieces, HBO's series John Adams, that was starring Paul Giamatti as John Adams, the late and great Tom Wilkerson, a great British actor as Dr. Benjamin Franklin, and of course, Stephen Delaney as Thomas Jefferson, who I think absolutely steals it.
		And I don't say that as a Virginian, just an unbelievable performance, all of them.
		That's a masterpiece.
		If you have not watched John Adams, I strongly recommend that you do it and do it with the family.
		Also, we'll be taking clips from the Broadway classic and film, I think from 1972, 1776.
		We'll play that throughout the morning also.
		Patrick K. O'Donnell will join me for the simple reason is that I think is what's lost in thinking about Independence Day and thinking about the 4th of July.
		And John Adams brought it up there.
		That was his response at the beginning to John Dickinson of Pennsylvania.
		Dickinson was a Quaker.
		He was also what we call a loyalist.
		He's the one in the deliberations that tried to make the case that they were Englishmen and they should try to work out some accommodation with the king and that when negotiation and compromise were best.
		Of course, they got it thrown back in their face by the crown consistently.
		And that's John Adams saying, hey, we absolutely have to make a break.
		And that led to the committee that drafted the Declaration of Independence.
		Really, the lead writer was Thomas Jefferson.
		And there you've seen the beginning of the editing process of which Dr. Franklin and John Adams helped him, they felt, clean it up a bit before put before the entire body.
		Of course, there were many more edits after that, but the core of it is Thomas Jefferson.
		It's one thing to remember, it was a declaration of war.
		It's a declaration of independence, but when you're part of an empire and you're saying, hey, upon further review, we're independent, you're going to war.
		And Adams knew this, all of them knew it.
		What is often lost in the teaching of the Declaration of Independence in our birthday on 4th of July, 1776, is that that was a tremendous debate in a document that's lived through the ages and inspired people of all nations.
		As Dr. Benjamin Franklin says right there, it's for all man.
		And John Adams also says this is for all mankind, just not for the English colonists in North America at the time.
		But the largest expeditionary force in history to date was actually landing in New York City at that time.
		I believe they had already landed at Staten Island.
		The beginning of it had already landed at Staten Island on the 2nd of July.
		This would turn out to be over, I think, a couple of hundred warships and transport ships from the Royal Navy, which was an institution that England really rose to power around, its Navy.
		The British Army also was landing.
		And in fact, just a couple of weeks after the signing Of the Declaration, basically by early to mid-August, they were ready to get it on and essentially destroy the Continental Army and really take America back and beat down and crush the revolution in the first 90 days after the signing of the Declaration.
		My point: the founders and the founders of the revolutionary generation understood that this was going to have to resort to a fight, and this fight would cause a river of blood.
		And they were bound and determined to lead their countrymen in that fight.
		And it wasn't just going to come from a bunch of smart lawyers and people that knew rhetoric writing a flowery document to inspire people.
		They understood that this would have to stand the test of a long and brutal war.
		That war did not end till 1783.
		And there were days, as I tell you in our struggle, there were days that you could not see the sunlit uplands in the Revolution.
		In fact, in the first, from the time the British landed in Long Island and swept through through the American Thermopylae that took place in Brooklyn, all the way to the American Dunkirk that took place at Brooklyn Heights, pushing us off Manhattan, then to New Jersey, and all the way back till we crossed the Delaware River, back into Pennsylvania.
		Those first 60, 90 days of battle look very grim.
		Patrick K. O'Donnell, the greatest combat historian of his generation, will join us at the bottom of the hour.
		It's Independence Day in the war room.
		Stick around.
		We're going to have music, film, clips, history, all of it, to commemorate the birth of this nation.
unidentified		Our fleet shall speak in thunder to England, France, and Spain.
		Nations o'er the ocean spread shall tremble.
		There to celebrate our country's 249th birthday.
		We are getting new insight into what Americans think about where the country stands.
		A new NPR PBS News Mayor's poll found three-quarters of Americans feel that democracy is under serious threat and see politically motivated violence as a major problem.
joe meacham ▲ ● ▼		You know, monarchy's easy.
		Democracy's hard.
		A monarchy is, okay, let's have daddy or mama take care of this and I don't have to think so much about it.
		Democracy is incredibly difficult because it's about all of us.
		You're a better person than I am, which is not hard, so don't get too cocky about it.
		But think about it.
		If we do the right thing 51% of the time, that's a pretty good day in terms of human nature.
		And so why would a democracy be any different since it's the fullest expression of all of us?
		Without meeting this test of citizenship, we will sacrifice so much to the rule of the strong.
		And that's what democracy was supposed to protect us from doing, is falling prey to the whims and appetites of somebody who just happens to be stronger than we are in that particular moment.
		And so when the founders, however flawed they were, when they gathered tomorrow in 1776, they knew they were signing their death warrant, that they were committing treason, that they could end up in the tower and worse.
		And yet they affixed their names because they believed in that sentence that Jefferson had written.
		Again, did not apply to everybody, and we continue to work on, to fulfill that promise that all of us are created equal.
		And I believe we can judge every era of American life by the degree to which we have lived into the Declaration or the degree to which we have fallen from it.
		And I worry that we're moving away from it in this hour as opposed to toward it.
		The good news is we can change course.
		It just requires enough of us to decide to do the right thing.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, this is after we're a constitutional republic.
		And you have to bifurcate because the left has a tendency to jam it and merge it altogether.
		The Declaration of Independence, the war itself, and then the post-war, how what happened, and then bringing the country, doing the drafting the Constitution and having a structure that's become the permanent structure of the United States.
		That took place over a broad swath of time in the lead up to the Revolution.
		You know, post-the French and Indian War, everything that led up to it that told Americans that we're not really represented by commons, we have a corrupt crown, that the crown, that the monarchy had corrupted commons, much like people are saying, hey, corporations, big donors have corrupted what is the replica of the House of Commons, which is the House of Representatives, and of course the House of Lords being the United States Senate.
		That many of us say that the grip of money of Wall Street and big tech has taken too big a grip into the Imperial Capitol.
		In fact, I don't call it the Imperial Capitol to be funny.
		We have created an empire, something that the revolutionary generation and the founders, right, if you take that broad swath of those, what, 10 or 20 years, warned us about and basically said we broke off from that.
		We didn't want to be a part of that.
		And we don't think this country is laying out a constitutional republic more structured after the Roman Republic than the direct democracy of the Athenians.
		Although the inspiration came from both.
		But we're a constitutional republic.
		Those that keep saying democracy, democracy, democracy.
		If you go back and look at the Bolshevik Revolution, you actually even look at elements of the French Revolution.
		This is what the revolutionaries always toss out: democracy, democracy, democracy.
		Of course, at the end of the day, they're not going to have democracy for anybody.
		The Bolsheviks were all very big in democracy at the beginning until they took control.
		A small minority, by the way, that took control and then led Russia into decades and decades and decades of just horror until they fell in 1989.
		We have the same fight today, but Meacham and these guys, they're never going to admit that the tools of democracy are very powerful in the MAGA movement.
		In fact, it's the way we came back from having an election stolen.
		We came from behind, just to make sure that the history is at front of mind.
		We came from behind out of nowhere to beat the Clinton mafia and the globalist in 2016.
		And they couldn't cotton to that.
		They immediately started what I call the nullification project.
		And now we know from CIA leaks and from things coming out, and I hope the Justice Department and the FBI are all over this, that the whole Russian hoax was completely manufactured, totally manufactured, as we knew it was, and actually spent millions of dollars individually,
		many of us being a drag through not just the Moeller Commission, but also the House Intelligence with Swifty Swift and Swalwell, Senate intelligence, all of it, on something that was a total hoax because they were trying to nullify MAGA's first win.
		Then in 2020, the big steal.
		Absolutely stolen.
		Not a question about it.
		Now, it turns out, just like our win in 2016 was providential, the big steal in 2020 was also God's will.
		Why?
		Because we then had to prove our resilience, our belief in this, our belief in Trump and Trumpism, in the MAGA movement, and as importantly, President Trump's belief in himself, in this movement, and the basic foundation of America to come back.
		Because he understood better than anyone, anyone, in January and February, in March and April of 2021, when Rupert Murdoch sent out the email and said, we're going to make him a non-person, when Fox News, including Tel Aviv Levin and Hannity and all his buddies over at Fox,
		basically kicked him to the curb to raise up Ron DeSantis or Nikki Haley or whoever they thought were going to be the next second coming of the neoliberal neocon, of which they're still going to do.
		That's still with us.
		You can see this in this fiasco of the fight in the Senate and the House over the last couple of days.
		That hasn't left.
		That, in fact, I would argue, is actually our biggest obstacle, the mega movement's obstacle.
		But then the greatest comeback in American political history.
		I even say the greatest comeback in all political history as far as democracy goes.
		And if Mitcham, if you look at the Pew study that just came out and broke it all down, basically every demographic except for, wait for it, college-educated women, right, are shifting to the MAGA movement, including African-American men, Hispanics, citizens, are coming to the cause of Trump and coming to the MAGA movement.
		That's democracy, and that's a constitutional republic, but you can't you're not going to live with it because you're trying to destroy it.
		Let's just go to what's happened the last couple weeks.
		Are the MAGA movement 1,000% ecstatic and skipping around about the big, beautiful bill?
		No.
		There's many flaws to that bill, but the power to unlock American capitalism, and you give it a shot.
		And Scott Besson said it, best, on this show back in early 2024, we have one last chance to have a supply-side tax cut to see if we can unlock the animal spirits of American capitalism.
		And the Big Beautiful bill had to take on a lot of deal baggage to get there.
		But now we've got it, and we have to drive it.
		We have to execute on that.
		All of it, from the trade policies and the tariffs to the ceiling of the border, the deportation of illegal alien invaders to stop the competition of wages of folks in the low-skilled wages.
		Also, I think, you know, stopping all immigration for a while, including these HB1 visas and all these scams.
		All of it.
		We just went through democracy.
		That is democracy.
		You saw the sausage being made.
		The reason we played so much of it, we wanted to make sure the MAGA movement saw it in all of its kind of ugliness.
		But that's democracy.
		Democracy kind of down in the dirt, and you're doing your horse trading.
		And some of the horse trades, you're not going to win every trade.
		We didn't win every trade.
		We didn't.
		You know that.
		But he got it done, even if it took the vote of the vice president, and we couldn't even get a majority.
	But he got the of his own party, but he got the vice president through the Constitution, through the geniuses of the foundation of the country post-revolution that had gone through the revolution, had gone through the war, had seen how weak the Continental Congress was, to see how weak the assembly we had post-the war, how we needed something else.
	And so we won in the Senate, and then the Senate bill not being perfect, guess what?
	A lot of representatives hated on the bill and wanted to make changes, wanted to get it back to the House version.
	They actually compromised at the end because there were other things put forward that are going to happen, executive orders, rescissions, impoundments, everything that plays into the Constitutional will be challenged by the courts, but we'll win.
	And so that they were not happy, but they were good enough to go ahead and say, let's go ahead and get this done.
	Not one sentence, not one comma in the Senate bill was changed.
	That's how it could get done yesterday.
	And guess what?
	Hakeem Jeffries.
	The Democrats are a little bit getting their footing.
	Hakeem Jeffries took, what, eight and a half or nine hours, set a record, laying out their case in the magic minute.
	Fine.
	That's part of the process.
	But Meacham and these guys, oh, this is Imperial, this is a king, we have no kings.
	Keep arguing that.
	I want you to continue that line of attack because it's going to lead nowhere.
	It's going to lead to a bigger one in 26.
	It's going to lead to a bigger one in 28.
	What Medium and company should be focused on is what's happening to you, Medium, and your other elites in a place called New York City of something that you have created.
	The Red-Green Alliance in all its glory.
	Islamic neo-Marxism.
	Right there up in your grill.
	And for the New York Post when people say, oh, you can't talk about the Islamic power.
	We just talk about socialism.
	This is a Red-Green Alliance.
	And it's quite dangerous.
	However, do not dismiss it.
	And don't say, oh, we hope it wins because we'll run against it.
	As I said in the Financial Times today, there are more tears shed for answered prayers than unanswered them.
unidentified		In the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them.
		A decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
		We hold these truths to be self-evident and that all men are created equal and that they are endowed by their Creator with certain universal unalienable with certain unalienable rights that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
		That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is in the right of the people to alter or abolish it and to institute new governments.
		The history of the present king of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states.
		In every stage of these oppressions, we have petitioned for redress in the most humble terms.
		Our repeated petitions have been answered only by repeated injury.
		A prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
		We, therefore, the representatives of the United States of America, solemnly publish and declare that these united colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent states.
		That they are absolved from all allegiance to the British crown.
		And for the support of this declaration with a firm reliance on the protection of divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.
		Bless you.
		God save our American state!
		I'll save our American Saints!
		The Secretary will now read the report of the Declaration Committee, Mr. Thompson.
		A declaration by the representatives of the United States of America and General Congress Assembled.
		When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitled them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
		We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.
		They're endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights.
		That among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
		Let to secure these rights.
		Jefferson!
		We're back.
		And we've got Maryland.
		That is, we will.
		As soon as Chase gets through telling the Maryland Assembly what we saw in New Brunswick, huh?
		He's in Annapolis right now, describing a ragtag collection of provincial militiamen who couldn't drill together, train together, or march together.
		But when a flock of ducks flew over and they saw their first meal in three, four days, sweet Jesus, could they shoot together?
		It was a slaughter.
		A slaughter.
		They're reading the Declaration.
		Good God.
		How far have they gotten?
		To render the military independent of and superior to the civil power.
		Independent of and superior to the...
		Nothing to fear.
		It's a masterpiece.
		I'm to be congratulated.
		You.
		For making him write it.
		Of course.
		It's a masterpiece, I say.
		They will cheer every word, every letter.
		I wish I felt that way.
		I believe I can put it better.
		Now then attend, as friend to friend, our declaration committee.
		For us, I see immortality.
		In Philadelphia City.
		A farmer, a lawyer, and a sage.
		A bit gouty in the leg.
		You know, it's quite bizarre to think that here we are playing midwives to an egg.
		Egg?
		What egg?
		America, the birth of a new nation.
		If only we could be sure of what kind of a bird it's going to be.
		Thomas appoint.
		What sort of bird shall we choose as the symbol of our new America?
		The eagle.
		The dove.
		The turkey.
		The eagle.
		The dove.
		The eagle.
		The eagle.
	The turkey.
	The eagle is a majestic bird.
	The eagle is a scavenger, a thief, and a coward.
	A symbol of all the ten centuries of European mischief.
	The turkey.
	The turkey is a truly noble bird.
	Native American, source of sustenance from our original settlers.
	An incredibly brave fellow who will not flinch in attacking a regiment of Englishmen single-handedly.
	Therefore, the National Bird of America is going to be the eagle.
	The eagle.
	We're waiting for the chirp, chirp, chirp of an eaglet being born.
	Waiting for the chirp, chirp, chirp on this humid Monday morning in this Congressional Inca.
	God knows the temperature's hot enough to hatch a stone, let alone an egg.
	We're waiting for the scratch, scratch, scratch of that tiny little fellow.
	Waiting for the egg to hatch on this humid Monday morning in this congressional state.
	God knows the temperature's hard enough to hatch a stone.
	But will it hatch an egg?
	The declaration will be a triumph, I tell you, a triumph.
	If I was ever shooting of anything, I'm sure of that.
	A triumph.
	And if it isn't, we've still got four days left to think of something else.
	The eagle's going to crack the shell of the egg that England laid.
	Yes, we can tell, tell, tell.
	On this humid Monday morning, this Congressional English debate.
	And just as Tom here has risen, so the shell may belong to represent, the eagles inside belongs to us.
	Just as Tom here has written, we say to hell with Great Britain, the eagle inside belongs to us.
	Thank you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The great William Daniels there, who just, I think, recently passed away, I believe at 90 years old as John Adams, Howard de Silva as Dr. Benjamin Franklin, and of course Ken Howard as Jefferson.
		Interesting, Howard de Silva was, I think, blackballed or banned in the entire 1950s because of his alleged association with the Communist Party.
		So very interesting.
		That is from the classic 1776.
		For those of you that are thinking ahead tonight at, I believe, 10.30 on Turner Classic Movies, they always wrap up the 4th of July with a showing with no commercial interruptions of 1776.
		If you have not seen it, tonight may be a chance.
		Absolute classic.
		Patrick K. O'Donnell joins me.
		Patrick, as you know, the reason you and I do these 4th of July specials is one, to talk about the document and everything that went into the lead up to the Continental Congress and to the Congress to actually draft the Declaration of Independence.
		But the British had already landed an expeditionary force from the most powerful institution probably in the Christian West, and that would be the Royal Navy and the British Army.
		So the signers of the Declaration, I think 56 of them, knew that they were signing potentially their death warrant.
		Were they not, sir?
patrick k odonnel ▲ ● ▼		They were, Steve.
		I wrote the Indispensables a few years ago, which still has a five-star rating on Amazon with nearly 2,000 reviews.
		But in there, one of the main people that the signers was Elbrich Gary, who's a Marblehead Mariner.
		And he jokes to several of his fellow signers that he's going to swing for a long time at the gallows because he's so light in body and weight, whereas others would probably just die immediately.
		But they realize that this is a death sentence because they signed it and they're parting ways with the greatest imperial power on earth.
		And they had, prior to that, destroyed all insurrections within the British Empire and they put them down quite forcefully.
		For instance, in an insurrection that took place in Ireland, nearly at the same time, they've drawn and ordered individuals, you know, just completely, you know, violently put down insurrections and always won.
		So this is an unprecedented move on the part of Americans to go against the greatest power on earth at the time.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		They also knew that the crown, Dickinson's proposal is let's go to the crown one more time.
		That's where he convinced the Congress of, let's go one more time and let's try to get a negotiated deal here.
		Whether we get our own parliament, whether we get seats in parliament, some type of representation, let's figure it out.
		And the king came back.
		The crown came back and said, not only no, but anybody even has these thoughts or even agrees with this letter is guilty of high treason.
		He told them that.
		That's what led to the whole committee coming together to draft the declaration because most of the colonies at the beginning were not for this.
		Also, the smarter members or the ones that had more wisdom understood that this was not going to be a 90-day conflict, that the British crown was just not going to roll over to a bunch of colonists that wrote a magnificent document on a piece of paper.
		They were just not going to sit there and turn it over.
		In fact, the expeditionary force that arrived in New York Harbor and at Staten Island was the greatest expeditionary force ever put together at that time, I think, in mankind.
		They were sending a signal.
		This North America Is ours, right?
		Not yours.
		We're the crown, and it's not yours.
		Your thoughts?
		We've got about a minute, Patrick, before we go to a commercial break.
		What do you got?
patrick k odonnel ▲ ● ▼		That's right, Steve.
		I mean, they assemble two-thirds of the British Navy and most of the army, along with over 10,000 Hessian mercenaries.
		These are German soldiers that are assembled, and there's many more that will follow them.
		And they landed Staten Island around the same time, and they are there.
		This is a statement, a statement of force that they will crush all opposition.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We're starting the music.
		It's going to take us up.
		Patrick K. O'Donnell, our finest combat historian, has written two amazing books on the revolution, The Indispensables.
		This is the men of Marblehead, and Washington's Immortals, this amazing regiment from Maryland.
		It's just incredible.
		If you read both of them, you get a real flavor of the combat and the ferocity of the combat.
		In fact, Ken Burns is coming out, I think, with a new 12-part series, or he's going to issue a new, just like the Civil War on the Revolution.
		In the interviews with Ken Burns, the one thing he says that shocked me is we went back and started doing archival research, as you did, Patrick, is the violence of the American Revolution that's really never been talked about.
		What a violent, violent fight and war it was, and how the Americans just would not give up.
		They just would not quit.
		One of our mottos here in the war room for the MAGA movement.
		If you don't quit, you're going to win.
		It applies today to the Trump movement, to the MAGA movement, to what we're doing right now, every day to save our beloved republic.
		And trust me, folks, it's a fight.
		If you don't think so, you're in the wrong game.
		Short break.
		Back with Patrick K. O'Donnell on Independence Day, 2025.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		A little 15-second spot there from Getter.
		I'm up on Getter all the time.
		As folks on Getter know, putting up articles, sharing my thoughts, talking about it, and putting up a lot.
		I put up a lot of articles, just like cold opens, to make people's blood boil, but think about what you always need to know what the opposition is saying.
		Roy, you join us now.
		You're running Getter.
		All the different applications, everything you happen.
		Tell us what you guys are doing to make Getter even better.
		We're trying to expand the audience over there, getting up pertinent information all the time.
		The people up there that I follow, I've got in my news feed.
		I get incredible news, memes, artwork, all of it, clips, incredible.
		What do you got going on over there, Roy?
roy guo ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, first of all, happy Independence Day, sir.
		And this is the fourth anniversary of Getter platform.
		I want to really say thank you to Steve and Warren Posse, Real America Voice, and also the new Federal State of China folks to build this such a strong community.
		We see high engagements, likes, reposts.
		And also, like, I want to mention about the history of Getter.
		We launched in the darkest time of United States, we believe in 2021, when people got canceled and when they say something, they got canceled, they got persecuted.
		Born in communist China myself, I really understand how important is free speech.
		And 1.4 billion people in China, they still, they're dreaming of the life we live right here, like as Americans, right?
		So and we understand how destructive it is, like the communism and socialism is.
		So that's why I think this platform is so important and feature-wise.
		As you mentioned, we have new features, Express Sign Up.
		People can just sign up with one click without asking for emails and phone number and even your birthday and everything.
		No personal information.
		It's totally safe.
		And then you just one click and get an account.
		And also we have breaking column breaking news and getter news.
		Select your sister.
		You have your post.
		You post 20 times a day and people can go on and see and also daily news, see those breaking news and exclusive intelligence.
		And also live stream feature, of course.
		Last year on election night, we have 3 million concurrent viewers of the R RAF show and people can go there.
		You don't even need an account and there's no ads.
		You can just enjoy live stream, especially Warren Live Stream.
		And most importantly, we will launch this monetization program where creators and even users can monetize on their content.
		And I believe Warren Positive and Steve's users are going to enjoy that first.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the live stream feature, let me go back to that because Grace and Mo put up so much on my account and the Warrum account.
		If we see congressional hearings or interesting news or President Trump's rallies, all of it, it's extraordinary.
		On that part of it, it's actually much more advanced than Twitter, I believe, and much easier to use.
		And so the live stream is extraordinary.
		Some of the technology on Getter, and particularly for me, I mean, I'm a tech simpleton, so it's got to be very, very easy for me to use.
		And I can use all the features and posts, although I do still need some assistance every now and again from Grace and Mo and Elizabeth.
		But it's just extraordinary.
		That's why I want everybody, particularly the War Imposse, to sign up.
		It's interesting.
		People get on there.
		They start posting a few things.
		Next thing you know, they got a couple thousand followers.
		But then you've got people that are really interested in what you have to say and really interested in the clips you're putting up.
		So you can build a pretty big following pretty quickly because of so many like-minded people.
		And people say, well, you're just talking to the echo chamber.
		Hey, you want to build some confidence?
		You want to build a base for narrative warfare?
		You've got to start by actually getting, you know, building the narrative inside a like-minded group.
		And a getter, you get a like-minded group.
		Although, besides some bots, you've got some people in there coming and criticized every now and again, which is positive.
		That's always healthy.
		But I can't recommend it more.
		How do people, you got two ways to do it?
		One, you go download the app.
		The other, I still think you can go just up on your computer.
		How do people get access to this, Roy?
roy guo ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, people can just go to getter.com.
		That's G-E-T-T-R.com on any browser.
		And also, you can search that on Android or iOS store.
		And also, you put up this beautiful 15-second spot.
		You can just scan the QR code.
		It will automatically jump to the App Store and download that.
		And it's totally free.
		And thank you for this.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		No, it's fourth anniversary.
		Jason Miller was our original CEO.
		And as you know, he's a senior advisor to President Trump today.
		And Jason's very involved in helping us think through issues.
		So I want to thank everybody associated with Getter that's helping us take this to the next level and make sure it's a platform built for the MAGA movement, built for the war imposse.
		It's easy to use.
		I'm always up there.
		Go check it out today.
		Roy, what's your handle on Getter so people can click to you and make sure they follow you?
roy guo ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, my handle is R-O-Y-G-U-O-Roy at getter.com.
		And don't forget to follow Steve Bannon.
		This is the only platform Steve Bennon is using.
		And also the new Federative Channel, NFSC Speaks.
		We put up really beautiful shorts and also a real micro voice.
		And thank you so much.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		And that daily news thing you have is absolutely incredible.
		I'm always reposting that.
		Thanks, Roy.
		Have a great 4th of July.
		Independence Day.
		We're going to continue.
		Patrick Ok O'Donnell is going to stick with us today.
		Patrick's also going to stick with us tomorrow.
		Tomorrow also, we're going to have Philip Patrick come in from Brazil.
		He's at the Bricks Nation.
		The Global South is meeting, and their focus is on a de-dollarization effort to make sure they can get off the U.S. dollar.
		They may not launch a new currency.
		They may not launch a new gold back currency, but hey, they are bound and determined to break the U.S. dollar.
		So we're going to have Philip Patrick live from Rio.
		Patrick K. O'Donnell will join me because we'll talk more in depth as we will the next hour of the fight.
		The Declaration of Independence and the Revolutionary War are inextricably linked.
		Why is that?
		Two-thirds of the documents, I'll ask Patrick when I get back, two-thirds of the actual Declaration of Independence was basically a bill of indictment against the Crown to say, yo, we're going to throw down, but we're going to list out, we're going to take the moral high ground and list out everything you've done to suppress liberty.
		And we're going to fight.
		We're going to fight to get our independence, and we're never going to give it up.
		And the question you have to ask yourself today, are we on the cusp of giving up our independence, even with as great a president as President Donald J. Trump?
		We're going to talk about the connection between General Washington from the Revolution, the founding of the nation, Abraham Lincoln at the rebirth of the nation, and now President Trump at the rejuvenation of the American nation.

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