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June 27, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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WarRoom Battleground EP 798: Intel Committee Meets For Details On Bombing Of Nuclear Facility
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kenny cody
05:38
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steve bannon
29:47
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tej gill
06:11
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andrew weissman
01:10
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lisa rubin
01:05
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paul rieckhoff
01:06
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chris murphy
00:55
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jake tapper
00:10
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unidentified
Based on intelligence, um the White House says it's now going to limit how much intel that it shares with Congress after it says a classifying assessment about the strikes on Iran was leaked.
Just minutes ago, President Trump posted to Truth Social, here's the quote, the Democrats are the ones who leaked the information on the perfect flight to the nuclear sites in Iran.
They should be prosecuted.
What do you make of all that, Andrew?
andrew weissman
Well, look, first, with respect to leaks, there's no question if somebody has leaked something that is national security or classified, then I would agree that that needs to be investigated.
But we have not seen that evidence yet.
And also, this idea that you don't have a responsibility to brief Congress, to me, it is of a piece of what we're seeing in the courts, which is this administration has told judges repeatedly that they have no role whatsoever in reviewing the actions of the executive.
You're seeing now the same thing happen with respect to Congress, where they're saying Congress doesn't have a role.
The idea, though, that an administration would say that you don't have to brief after the fact, at least the gang of eight about the intelligence.
I mean, that is the critical information that Congress is entitled to.
And so, you know, and just to be clear, that is something that presidents in both parties have traditionally done.
This is not a partisan issue.
This is really a Trump issue in not being responsible and responsive to other branches of government.
lisa rubin
I'm going to throw some cold water on that and say this is not an instance where you can count on the courts to come to the rescue for a couple of reasons.
First of all, when Congress has an issue where they feel like their rights have been disrespected, it's not enough if Paul and I were, for example, members of Congress to sue on our own behalf.
We would not have standing, which is how the courts conceive of an injury, just as individual members of Congress.
It's the body as a whole.
And we already know that Speaker Johnson doesn't have the appetite to even have a political fight with President Trump, much less a legal one.
The second reason, though, is that this is a court that has a very broad understanding of the president's powers.
Courts in the past have been reluctant to get involved with questions about whether the president's actions are appropriately within his constitutional powers in situations of strikes.
That will be even more true in a court like this one that continues to expand, expand, expand the president's Article II powers, despite the fact that the Constitution envisions a system of checks and balances.
unidentified
What would you want to hear from lawmakers on why Congress doesn't seek a bipartisan limit to the president's war powers?
paul rieckhoff
What I want to see from Congress is a spine, because they've been abdicating their responsibility since World War II, which is the last time we had a formal declaration of war.
Trump has blown through every guardrail around our democracy and our military.
And this is the biggest one.
He's saying, you will not stop me, even if I want to go to war.
The only step further than this is nukes.
So we have to ask ourselves, who is going to stand up and slow him down?
Speaker Johnson is abdicating his responsibility.
He's wrong.
He's failing America.
He's failing the troops.
John Fetterman, who apparently is okay with this, he's wrong.
He's failing the troops.
This was designed to contain all presidents.
And we've never need a president who needed to be contained more than this guy.
And now we've got Pete Heckseth who says he wants to come after leakers.
Well, that's pretty ironic after SignalGate, and he put out classified information to the world, right?
So it's upside down world.
And what he continues to do is blow through every guardrail in America.
And the question I keep asking Democrats, Republicans, and now ultimately the American people is, how are we going to stop him?
Because he can continue to go further.
And even if the courts say no, even if Congress says no, he throws up the middle finger and just keeps going.
And now it's war.
Now it's American sons and daughters in harm's way.
And it can go further if he isn't stopped.
steve bannon
This is the final scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
You're not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
The people had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you're trying to do everything you will to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
Mega media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
Waru, here's your host, Stephen K. Max.
steve bannon
It's Thursday, 26th June in the year of our Lord 2025.
Now, up on Capitol Hill, around the Capitol Hill today is going to be the briefing.
And this briefing is, and it's twofold.
Number one, it is the bomb damage assessment and what happening.
I think that President Trump has made a compelling argument.
I think we've had our second over two briefings today.
I would have brought an Intel person just to kind of calm the media down.
But remember, the media in the room, they're very pro going forward.
And the reason is that all their publications are all driven.
If you pick up these publications, they're all driven by ad dollars by the defense industry, the arms makers.
Not just the arms makers, I mean the service providers of health care, of everything for the military.
And is that the clip up now?
Okay, fine.
And so they're incentivized.
They keep it going.
They do keep it going.
You saw the questions coming out today.
I thought Pete and General Raisin Kane did a great job.
I didn't like the shot.
I know it was tongue-in-cheek that the Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman.
General Raisin Kane took at the Navy and Navy aviators and said, hey, there's no volleyball courts and no touch football being played at the Air Force Weapons School where a lot of these great pilots were trained.
And you've got to remember there's all this inter-service rivalry and camaraderie and competition between the various services, particularly in aviation.
It's big.
So where are the other part today and why Tulsi Gabbard is not there?
Is John Ratcliffe is going to make a presentation?
The question's got to be answered because there's all kinds of things going around.
Hey, the bomb damage assessment, which President Trump said, hey, total obliteration, total annihilation.
President Trump's closed the books on this.
It's a 12-day war.
Boom.
I ended it.
I got a ceasefire.
And we're moving on, right?
He's got massive problems here in the United States he's got to solve, including right now.
It looks like the big, beautiful bill may be a little off track.
I think tonight and tomorrow will get a better feel from the Senate of some of these things that the parliamentarian, a parliamentarian that is from the days of Harry Reid, I mean, it's almost inconceivable how that happened.
But she's pulled these things out, and she's made some questionable calls in the past.
So Ratcliffe's up there, not the person who represents all the security agencies, but Ratcliffe, the CA, and I think that's fine.
What I think has to be ascertained, and it's very important for our country to ascertain this, what has to be ascertained is what was the big hurry?
What drove us to that point on what, June 12th or 13th?
What drove us to that point that the urgency of the moment required an Israeli attack, an all-out Israeli attack they had clearly planned for a while because they had Mossad killing people, assassinating people, and that's all fine.
But what drove that attack when, I mean, what information, this breakout, when it's very evident, I mean, admitted, they didn't have the ability to finish the job.
In other words, they didn't have the ability, not just Fedora, but they didn't have the ability at the other facility.
They needed the bunker buses, and they hadn't touched the above-ground facility where Navy had to launch 30 Tomahawk missiles.
So something that's absolutely essential for you to, in fact, it's the reason you're doing it is to take out the nuclear power, that nuclear bomb possibility, that's untouched.
And you're knowing going in that the United States has to do it.
That to me is just outrageous.
And we're not going to get off that topic.
We're just not.
Because the United States of America has to make these decisions.
President Trump made a decision I think was very brave, very bold.
He dropped a massive assault on all three and finished the deal, total obliteration.
But all he got from Fox the entire time, you have to do this, you have to do this, you have to do this.
And never made the case of why it's in the vital national security industry.
United States, President Trump has said now for 15 years they cannot allow to have a nuclear program.
I agree with that.
But it wasn't shown or hasn't been shown yet what the breakout of that was.
In fact, as I keep repeating, he went on Brett Baer on Sunday night, and Brett Baer asked the basic question, why did this have to go the other day?
And all you got was gobbledygook from Netanyahu.
Some kind of hand waving and, oh, you know, it was an important breakout.
And, you know, and they're going to be out doing 12 or 13 months.
Well, 12 or 13 months is a long time.
That's 12 or 13 months.
And then pivot to, oh, we're not going to let another Holocaust.
And once they mention that, you can't even question it.
Well, that's not the way the war room works.
We're going to question all of it because, quite frankly, we're big enough and powerful enough that we don't need to count out to the Murdochs, never taking a penny from them.
Don't like them.
I think they've been very destructive.
I think Fox has been very destructive.
Pete Hegseth called them out today and said they were the worst, that Jennifer Graham, who is their league Pentagon correspondent, has been the most destructive at all about President.
They'd just been cheerleaders for a foreign entity.
It's quite obvious that's the case.
And let's be blunt.
As we said here on that show on the opening morning, on that Friday morning, we were blunt.
They said this was a decapitation.
In fact, they killed the, at least at that time, it was reported, they killed the negotiating team that Steve Wickoff had a meeting was scheduled for that Sunday in Muscat, Oman.
Now, maybe they were getting tapped along.
Maybe President Trump had lost his patience.
Maybe that meeting wasn't going to take place, but it had not been announced it wasn't going to take place.
President Trump wasn't happy with the outcome.
That's quite evident.
But they killed, why would you kill the negotiating team?
Is that negotiating team inextricably linked to the production of nuclear weapons?
No, they're not.
You kill the negotiating team because you want to stop the negotiations.
Washington Post put out a brutal story yesterday that talked about Netanyahu.
Here's why they did it and the sense of urgency.
And you have to be an adult and you have to talk to adults like adults, right?
Number one, the Israelis have done a magnificent job of taking out the air defenses of the Iranians, I don't know, 60 days ago, 90 days ago.
They were in the process of being rebuilt and they might have been part of it rebuilt by the end of June or sometime in July, but sometime in the near future, part of those are going to be up and going to make it much more difficult for pilots in the Israeli Air Force to get in there.
And it could be some high casualties, maybe even not accomplish their missions.
In addition, General Corella, who has been a big advocate of this, and CENCOM, like I said, is the dark star, right?
Just absolutely amazing.
This is where all the wars have been run out of.
And every person in the U.S. Army has gone through there and punched their ticket multiple times.
It is a massive organization, and it's a very well-run organization.
Like I said, the gravitational pull of CENCOM is very, very powerful, not just in the Pentagon, but throughout the national security apparatus.
Carrilla is retiring.
I think he's retiring on July 1st or sometime here shortly.
And sometime shortly.
And he was retiring, and they wanted to do it before both of those entities happened.
That's why I went on that Thursday.
Now, we're very open to seeing intelligence counter to that.
But I don't think it's going to happen because the Mossad, and I got to thank Citizen Kane, really linked to, I thought a fascinating, and I hear it's one of the first time he's ever given an interview.
The head of the Mossad gave a very detailed interview about how deeply embedded into the Iranian government these guys actually were.
And it was deep.
They did assassinations.
They killed nuclear scientists.
I mean, it was quite magnificent of what they'd done.
I think they had drones in there.
Very complicated.
It took years in the making.
The Mossad agents were extraordinary.
But the interview is kind of a cell phone because there's no mention of a smoking gun.
If you add that and the Washington Post articles together, you kind of understand why this thing had to happen.
They had their own...
Go do it.
That's not for us to ensure.
But when you need American power, and particularly need American power immediately because you need us on defense, we have to provide air defenses.
We had to ship destroyers and frigates over there.
But then that's different.
And I don't care if Tel Aviv, Mark Levin, is going to rant and rave and scream and all that and spend all shows doing it.
We could care less.
We could care less.
We're going to get this mess sorted out.
There's going to be a reset.
You can feel it already.
I'm pretty good about knowing where the puck's going to go.
The puck's going to go here.
There's going to be a major reset.
And nobody cares what Mark Levin thinks about it or what he says about it.
It's going to happen because the American people are demanding it now.
Israel is not an ally.
They're a protectorate.
They haven't been involved in really anything on alliance.
When Solomoni was taken out, they did not participate, right?
They did not participate.
There's going to be, I think, some stories coming out here today or tomorrow.
My understanding of certain behaviors that were not judged appropriate by the White House.
We'll let all that play out and see the sourcing of that and how that happens and what the White House pushes back on.
But there's a lot to say here.
And it just magically, magically, on the very day that President Trump reaffirms with the second briefing, hey, total annihilation, total obliteration, we're done.
Steve Wickoff's talking about letting the Mulas sell all to the Chinese Communist Party, which, as you know, in the war room, we say that's verboten because we ain't fans of the Moolah.
We think they're bad guys.
And the way to do this is to get the Persians to overthrow them.
And the way to do that is choke them down on economics.
But hey, President Trump's, this is his deal.
This is his deal.
He's putting it together and he's definitely playing five-dimension chess.
So good on you.
Whatever you're going to do, President Trump, is going to be fine.
But there's going to be a reset of that.
You can see.
And a flashing warning for the Tom Cottons of the world and these guys, Lindsey Graham, you better look at New York City.
A big part of that was a referendum on Netanyahu and his government.
And don't think you're going to get away from that toxicity because that's going to roll through into 26 and it's going to roll through to 28.
So it has to be sorted now.
I don't think the way to sort that is with a visit to the White House.
But like I said, I don't call the shots.
President United States calls the shots.
And he's doing a pretty damn good job as commander-in-chief.
You saw that yesterday in NATO.
5% of GDP.
If we had talked about that in the first term, it was impossible.
They wouldn't pay 2%.
And they mocked us.
They treat us like supplicants.
Well, they're not treating Trump like a supplicant anymore.
Yesterday, it was very moving what happened in NATO.
I want to talk to Taj Gil.
Taj, you see the upsell they're trying to do.
Jennifer Griffin, hey, there's some material and some material hasn't gotten, and we need some boots on the ground to go find the materials.
And maybe the IDF sends some commandos in, maybe Mossad sends some agents in.
But hey, we're going to need Dev Group.
We're going to need SEAL Team 6 and the EOD guys to jump in here.
You're beginning to see the upsell.
And they're going to bang that drum very loud.
That'll lead to regime change.
But first, they're going to do the thing.
Hey, we don't know where it is or the trucks all is.
Sir, you're being a former Navy SEAL with, I don't know, a dozen plus, I think it's 16 or 18 deployments to bad neighborhoods in the Middle East.
Your thoughts on that, sir?
tej gill
Yeah, I think they're just trying to smear Trump as usual.
They don't want to give him credit where credit is due.
I've seen those reports, you know, saying that trucks pulled in and loaded something up and pulled out.
It might be true.
It might not be true.
But the bottom line is he dropped a dozen 30,000-pound bombs on Iran's biggest nuclear facility, plus 30 Tomahawk missiles.
So there's a major, major, major destruction.
And I think even bigger than that is the message that it sent.
The message that it sent is Trump means business.
Like when he says you have 60 days, you have 60 days.
You better hop to.
You better jump, right?
So that's the biggest thing is the message and 12, 30,000 pound bombs that you don't drop those things and not get annihilation, not get destruction.
So that's where I'm at on this whole thing.
I think it's smashed.
It's destroyed.
And that's that.
And then Trump going to NATO and telling them they have to pay their 5%.
It's amazing.
It's like dad's back and he's putting discipline on the kids.
And he's doing that everywhere.
He's doing that in Los Angeles.
He sent the National Guard, Europe.
He's telling them they got to pay their 5%.
He called Netanyahu and he was like, turn your jets around now.
And Netanyahu did it.
It's literally like the adults showed up and dad showed up and he's putting order and discipline back into the world.
It's not just America.
Like he shut down the border.
He's bringing discipline to the cities.
And now he's bringing discipline to the Middle East.
He's bringing discipline to Europe.
He is literally putting the world back into order because we've had these corrupt politicians who don't care.
They're just like, everybody do what you want, kill who you want, invade wherever you want.
As long as our pockets are full, we don't care.
And Trump is now bringing, it's the same thing with our Senate in the House of Representatives.
He's bringing order back to the Senate and House of Representatives.
They're going to pass this big, beautiful bill one way or another.
They're going to all get in line and follow Trump's orders.
That's what's going on here.
unidentified
It's worldwide.
steve bannon
But talk about pivoting back here, particularly because it's going to be a long, hot summer.
President Trump reiterated today at home in there that we got 10 million.
You got the bad ombres.
And of course, the judges are getting orders from the Supreme Court.
They got to send them.
President Trump can send them where he wants to.
And they're defying, the judges are defying the Supreme Court.
So don't talk to me about Trump defying the Supreme Court.
The judges, federal judges are doing this.
This is going to be another throwdown.
But with Homan and people, nobody's excited right now that enough raids are taking place.
That's going to pick up.
President Trump is committed to that.
When you talk to your buddies or talk to people as you build this coffee business, what is the sense of the pivot back here?
Because I'm telling you, everybody I know was loving a couple of weekends ago when President Trump was shutting down the burning of L.A., federalizing the National Guard, sending some Marines in and saying, hey, we're going to take care of business here.
We're going to clean out these sanctuary cities.
Or to folks you know and your feel for the country, how big a priority is this and when should it recommence, sir?
tej gill
It should have never slowed down.
It needs to recommence right now.
Even the farms, the hotels, the restaurants, you know, you got to get rid of these illegal aliens.
I mean, who knows?
We think 20 million plus, right?
I heard you say 30 million.
Who knows how many there are?
They need to be deporting 5,000 to 10,000 a day, every day.
I mean, the war is at home.
The homeland needs to be secured, ASAP.
And then, you know, the talk of the sleeper cells.
We don't know how many actual terrorists came across the border.
And under Obama, you know, there's a talk of al-Qaeda coming across.
So we just have no idea who is here and what they're capable of.
We need to restore law and order in the homeland.
And then the fentanyl thing is huge.
We've shut down the southern border effectively, but the northern border is not.
I think it's slowed down a lot, but they need to completely shut down the northern border.
And I think we need to take out the ships that are carrying the precursors to the fentanyl from China to Mexico because these chemicals don't come in from China.
They get made in laboratories in Mexico.
Then they come across the border.
And we have hundreds of thousands of Americans dying.
As far as I'm concerned, it's chemical warfare on the United States of America by China.
And nobody cared until Trump took office, which is crazy.
What happened to our Senate?
What happened to the House of Representatives?
We have over 100,000.
Some people say up to 200,000 dead from fentanyl.
And so it's got to, we need to deport everyone right now.
Like I'm saying 10,000 a day.
Just get after it right now.
Deport, deport, deport.
The war is here in the homeland, Steve.
You know that.
I've heard you say that a million times.
That's what needs to be done.
We need to restore order.
We need to restore law and get America back into shape.
steve bannon
Talk to me.
I want people one more time to hear about your coffee.
And by the way, I'm not a fan of decaf, but I am a fan of providing that because I know so many people can only get maybe one cup of coffee with caffeine at the end of the day and the rest is decaf.
Or some people don't take any or a lot of people, hey, after a certain time of day, and particularly over dinner.
And this is the perfect coffee to do it because it is the champagne of coffee.
So you can linger over a pot of it at a dinner after hours and not get all jacked up on the caffeine.
So when are you going to drop the decaffeinator?
Although I can't believe two Navy guys are talking about decaffeinate coffee.
I think you'd be thrown off the ship or you've been thrown out of your sealed team.
You're talking about decaf, right?
tej gill
Exactly.
Yeah.
I know we've had people asking for the decaf for a while now, for actually a couple years plus.
And at first I was like, no way, we're not doing decaf.
I'm not going to sell decaf, but they've been asking for it.
So we're going to do it.
So finally, we're dropping decaf next week.
The website is warpath.coffee, promo code warroom.
And decaf is going to be out before 4th of July.
And right now we're doing 20% off for the warroom posse.
The website is warpath.coffee and use promo code warroom.
And, you know, Steve, you coined the phrase champagne and coffee, which is pretty amazing.
And then one of our customers sent a review last week and it said king of the beans.
So I just put that up on the website.
That's, I mean, that's pretty awesome.
So we've got over 11,000 five-star reviews on the website.
And usually websites do not have the many reviews.
And we only have 13% of our customers that leave reviews.
So all you got to do is look at the reviews because that's how everybody shops now.
Because of Amazon, they look at all the reviews.
So you don't have to believe my marketing or anything else.
Just look at the reviews.
They're all real reviews.
We don't pay people to do it.
We just send out a couple emails asking people if they'll leave a review.
13% do it.
And we have over 11,000 five-star reviews.
People love this coffee.
It is amazing.
The espresso is, I love the espresso.
My wife actually started mixing the summer blend and the espresso together.
And we brew it.
We do the French press and it's incredible.
But all the coffees are amazing.
It's the best.
Warpath.coffee, promo code Warroom.
steve bannon
Warroom, get your discount.
Next time I have you come on here, we're going to read some of the reviews from the 11,000.
It's amazing.
No company's got that in that short period of time.
It shows you that people just love it.
They absolutely love it.
Taj Gil, social media, Warpath, where do folks go?
tej gill
Yeah, it's TageFrog, T-E-J, F-R-O-G.
On X, it's Tage Frog 5.
And then on the other stuff, it says Tage Frog, T-E-J-F-R-O-G.
And then Warpath Coffee is Warpath Coffee.
unidentified
And the website is warpath.coffee.
steve bannon
Brother, thank you so much.
Appreciate it.
tej gill
Thank you, sir.
steve bannon
Still waiting.
I'm kind of flying blind here about this intel.
Don't know if it's out yet or not.
We'll double check that.
That means it's going for a while.
Maybe a couple of three pointy questions.
Ought to be.
Got to drill down on this.
Particularly the sense of urgency.
What drove this?
What drove this?
President Trump, on the information he had, made the right decision, and he led to total obliteration and total annihilation of their program, whatever that was.
Total obliteration.
And he closed the books on it.
12-day war, boom, done.
We're moving on to the next thing, which is saving the United States of America.
And on that, he's doing one hell of a job.
Not too shabby either as commander-in-chief.
This situation in Europe, because Europe is no longer a protectorate.
Europe's actually going to be an ally for those people to pay 5% of their GDP and go from where they were two years ago, because they're going to have some tough calls and tough decisions.
5% of GDP, a lot of money.
Particularly folks that haven't been pulling their weight.
Now they got to pull it and then some.
But they got to sell that to their people because they're going to take some hits on pensions and healthcare and all of it.
unidentified
We'll be right back.
steve bannon
Okay, there is, I guess, they've broken up somewhat.
They're out right now, and we're going to start getting some comments.
This is one from, I'm going to ask the reporter, I'm going to send the reporter's question.
There's no clip of this yet.
Do you have some sense of where the enriched uranium is at this point?
Has the intelligence community figured that out at this point?
You see what they're driving to?
They want boots on the ground.
Senator Cotton, I don't have a comment on that.
I will say it was not part of the mission to destroy all their enriched uranium, very smart, or to seize it or anything else.
Again, this is not a mission impossible movie.
There's not a single thing out there that can be done or not done to allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon.
It's the entire chain of events and people and places that you have to put together to get a nuclear weapon.
The scientists, the centrifuges, the repair parts, centrifuge manufacturing, the cascades of centrifuges, gas to metal conversion facilities.
But I'm confident the mission was extraordinary success.
I think that sums it up.
Remember, the science here is kind of proven.
You still have to have scientific process and technology and process, but it's really the manufacturing of it, the manufacturing of the weaponization that I think is the industrial part is quite concerned.
And Senator Cotton, I think, answered that appropriately.
There is a big push to get boots on the ground there.
And of course, the more we see this, I think Murphy also had a do we have a clip from Senator Murphy?
Can we go and play that?
Let's go ahead and play.
We had Senator Murphy.
Let's go ahead and go ahead.
And by the way, they're running commentary on both what they said, Pete and the guy in General Raisin Kane said today and what happened is the classified briefing.
Let's go ahead and have Murphy.
chris murphy
Immediately after these strikes, there's a real question as to why the director of national intelligence is not allowed to be in these briefings.
That's a question that we should get answered.
Listen, to me, it still appears that we have only set back the Iranian nuclear program by a handful of months.
There's no doubt there was damage done to the program, but the allegations that we have obliterated their program just don't seem to stand up to reason.
So I obviously can't share any of the details from this briefing, but I just do not think the president was telling the truth when he said this program was obliterated.
There was certainly damaged under the program, but there is significant, there's still significant remaining capability.
steve bannon
Okay, Senator Kramer of North Dakota, Republican North Dakota, said the descriptions of the damage to the program were fitting, quote, everybody's got their own words, setback, obliterated, destroyed, greatly diminished.
It's all of those things.
I would say I think all of those are accurate depending on how you use any one of those terms, Kramer said.
That's a quote.
But pressed to select his own term, Kramer paused.
I would say that is severely set back and not just because the bunker buses were so effective at Ford L and the other sites that got hit by the missiles.
And just to build a building like that would take probably a year.
And just to get some scientists up and running, it would take a long time to reestablish from scratch.
Navy cruise missiles, 30 of them.
Very powerful.
We've got more quotes coming out.
Like I said, they're all talking about the battle damage.
President Trump, I think, is going to be very comfortable.
Hey, it was totally obliterated, totally annihilated.
This thing would.
And we had Captain Finnell on today.
Captain Finnell is about as safe a pair of hands as you can get.
This is why I brought him on.
Remember, he gave up his career to warn the Obama administration or the American people what the Obama administration was not doing.
And that was talking about the rise of the People's Liberation Navy in the Pacific and how they really were challenging the 7th Fleet for basically the dominance of the seas in the Western Pacific.
And he was not heated.
And that's why the Chinese built such a massive navy.
But this was his kind of area of expertise for many decades.
And he said he's very confident this thing was obliterated, annihilated.
And it would be, he said, he thought, decades before they did, even if they had the will to do it.
And it looks like with President Trump meeting with Iran and there's some sort of meeting I think they're trying to get on the books in the next couple of weeks.
We'll have to see.
Kenny Cody, you come strongly recommended by Jack Basovic.
You're over at Human Events.
Give your sense of what the young people in this country, kind of a shocking win, I would say, for most people.
We tracked this pretty closely behind the scenes.
I thought it was a very sophisticated, incredibly sophisticated campaign run up in New York.
But when we talk about conservatives, what's their sense right now of the direction of the country and where do they want to see more of their focus on these kind of international commitments, particularly more wars in the Middle East or more focus here at home, sir?
kenny cody
Well, I think there's a tiring by Gen Z of these foreign entanglements, these foreign wars, these forever wars.
And you saw that up in New York.
You know, regardless of Mamdani's radical Islamic sort of ideology that he has, he's a socialist, he's a communist, but he used the populist nationalist sentiment in the right way, even if it wasn't for our own nation.
He still used populist sentiment in the right way.
He was going out and he was calling things out like rent control.
He wanted to use grocery stores and price control on government-ran grocery stores to provide products to the public.
He wanted to decrease Indian street dishes from $10 to $8.
He was going out to New York and seeing what the issues that were most central to New Yorkers were and campaigning on those issues.
Now he's using that far-leftist mindset, but he was using populism in order to talk to Generation Z. And I think that's what the Ramaga movement needs to continue to do.
I think over the last 10 years, we've saw an increase of that and an increase of nationalism and an increase of populism.
But MAGA doesn't need to be deterred by these neocons who are still trying to continue forever wars, these country-cut Republicans that want to continue to leak disinformation and say we need to do more, even though these strikes have completely annihilated Iran nuclear capabilities.
Trump has made a decisive decision.
And Gen Z wants to see us move on.
We want to concentrate on domestic issues such as mass deportation, illegal immigration being decreased, and legal immigration and mass migration to be decreased as well.
These are the things that Gen Z voted Trump in to do and the things while he won the presidency in November.
And using those populist sentiments to get through those issues to the American people is exactly what needs to continue to happen and for Generation Z to continue to be involved in the conservative movement.
steve bannon
Kenny, this guy very much early on, the team around him and he focused on this concept of affordability.
So when you go out and talk to Gen Z on the MAGA side, the Republican side, the Charlie Kirks things, how big a deal is affordability to folks on our side?
kenny cody
Well, it's humongous.
I mean, with the increase in housing prices, this generation of college students, this generation of 20 to 30-year-olds, do want to go home and form a family.
You know, the nuclear family has been, you know, kind of dissuaded over the last 10 years by the Democratic Party, by the leftists, and even by some of the American right.
But now, I think these people that are currently in college, people that are a little bit younger than me and maybe a little bit older than me, want to be able to feed their families.
They want their children to be able to have American prosperity with their jobs, live in safe communities, live in prosperous communities.
And affordability is a saving grace for Generation Z, regardless of who is selling that point to them.
It's why people like J.D. Vance, Josh Hawley, and others were successful in the Republican Party is because they look at these wages, they look at workers, they look at unions, and they want to at least hear what they have to say.
And that's why Generation Z is attached to them.
It could be something, like I said, like Ma'am Donnie in New York, as simple as lowering the prices of an Indian dish for a street cart.
That's something that resonated for some reason in New York.
And I think that the MAGA needs to continue to listen to those voices because Generation Z wants to be able to afford their homes.
They want to be able to afford to feed their children.
They want to have multiple children homes.
They want to ensure that they have a prosperous family going forward.
And I think Generation Z wants to hear that from politicians.
For a long time, the left are the ones that have been doing that.
The Democrats' Party have been the party of the working man.
But Republicans are continuing to do that.
And we don't need to be dissuaded by foreign entanglements, by inhumane rhetoric when it comes to mass migration to go back to the Bush-Air Republicanism.
Generation Z wants to hear from the nationalist populist sentiments that are going to concentrate on working families continuing to succeed in the future.
steve bannon
What is your sense of employment right now?
We talked about an artificial intelligence apocalypse.
I just mentioned this morning, I think it was I was reading a report at Harvard University.
This is at the I'm pretty sure it's at the college, not at the graduate schools, but at the college.
25% of Harvard students are unemployed right now, which is pretty extraordinary because when you get there, they very much get you into the system that you're going to have a good job when you get out because the place is extraordinarily expensive, obviously very, very elite and hard to get into.
What is your sense of this generation when it comes out now, a college and its economic prospects, its employment prospects?
kenny cody
I think it's pretty low.
With the infiltration of AI into the workforce, that is going to put a lot of young people out of jobs.
It's going to put a lot of careers that were currently in the scope, maybe even years ago.
Let's just say somebody started a major four years ago and they go into supply chain management.
They go into, even if they go to a working class, an applied technology school to go into their trade and the trade is being replaced by AI, the trade is being replaced by technology, people are scared for their jobs.
And I think that's a bad thing and a good thing in a way that when people go into college, they're not going to major in some of these liberal arts majors, going and majoring in gender studies and things like that.
They probably want to get a job that they can actually land a job within or get a major, they can actually land a job within.
But AI has changed the conversation.
AI is doing everything in every single job field.
And I think that when people are going to college, when they're going to trade schools, and trade schools has become such a vital part of this, the last five to ten years of Generation Z, more people are going to trade school, especially in southern states and in southern America than pretty much ever before.
And I think that's because they have seen what colleges and universities have done to the next generation and have done to this generation in depleting jobs and not guaranteeing jobs with the majors they've chosen.
So I think AI has changed that conversation.
I think Generation Z wants to be able to land a job after they graduate college or after they graduate high school.
And I think that the Republican Party and the conservative movement continue to need to hear those concerns because they are very important.
Generation Z, again, going back to trying to have some sort of prosperity for their families and for themselves in the future.
steve bannon
Kenny, where do people go to get your writings?
Where do they go to get your social media?
kenny cody
I'm at Katie Cody TN on Twitter and True Social, and you can find all of my articles archived at humanevents.com on our editorial page.
steve bannon
Do you, I noticed that Jack had you know the other day, are you co-hosting with him?
Are you spending a lot of time on Human Events Daily?
kenny cody
I go on there about weekly.
We kind of co-hosted a little bit today.
I'm actually in Washington, D.C. for this week.
Today's my last day here.
But I co-hosted today and I go on with him about weekly for about a bi-weekly segment.
steve bannon
Fantastic.
One more time.
Where's your social media?
kenny cody
At KD Cody, TN on Twitter and TrueSocial.
steve bannon
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate you.
kenny cody
Thank you so much, Mr. Biden.
steve bannon
These are this younger generation coming out, this is why it's trending conservative and trending MAGA.
Very practical, right?
Not so much pie in the sky, very practical.
And I think going to be terrific.
But we have to get, I think, enormously focused on this country.
This is why the big, beautiful bill is important to make sure you keep the tax cuts that you've got, add additional populist tax cuts.
As you know, I'm a big believer.
I think the math works, and I haven't been shy about sharing this with anybody, that in raising the taxes for the upper bracket or do the snapback or set up a new bracket at a million bucks above and make it a 40% of income.
Also take things away like carried interest, which is still outrageous and the private equity firms still fight for it and they still have it.
It hasn't been put out there.
It hasn't been stopped.
I think that's another outrage.
It just shows you the power of the hedge funds over the people.
And if you're going to have a populist movement, you have to have a populist movement.
Now, no tax on overtime, no tax on tips.
Extraordinary.
But we didn't get the no taxes on Social Security.
You got something.
You're going to have some sort of write-off or shelter that'll cover part of it, but not all of it.
And that's what we were looking for, and that's what we needed.
We're coming up.
We're going to get more information tonight.
I'll get more information on this.
Do we have any of the clips of people coming out on the Intel?
The Senator is actually being, they're giving quotes to the media, but they're not really going on camera about this.
And like I said, we haven't seen, I think, the most important question of all.
What did Ratcliffe say about the breakout?
What did Ratcliffe say about the whole thing, the initiating event, as we say in the movie business?
I think an argument can be made.
And I think you've had the Mossad and the battle damage assessment.
And President Trump, like I said, it has been obliterated.
It's been annihilated.
I don't think anything coming out here except for some Democrats that are trying to make a, like Murphy and some of these guys that are all thinking to running for president, it had pretty good, you know, I think general received, particularly by the Republicans.
And I don't even see Mark Warren or anybody questioning it.
I think, I strongly believe that even this move to try to get some commandos in or people attractive material, I'm not so sure that's going to get much traction.
I just don't think that's going to be the case.
So hopefully President Trump sticks it out here, meets with the Iranians, closes this thing down, and get back to the pivot back to the United States.
Like I said, I think there's growing and realize they're running out of money, so this is one of the reasons ICE and DHS, everybody needs some cash in here to make sure you do it.
But everything I see in MA, all the polling I see in MAGA, people want more deportations.
They want more of these businesses hit.
They think Americans will take those jobs.
And I think that's something that's got to be really looked at quite seriously.
This weekend, we got the 4th of July, not this weekend.
Obviously, it's coming up.
We're going to end June here.
Today's the 26th.
So the 1st will be next Tuesday.
Is that right, Tuesday or Wednesday?
But we're into the 4th of July next the weekend, which is considered the midpoint of summer, although technically it's not, but it's considered the midpoint of summer, already upon us.
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The big, beautiful bill, big, beautiful bill, quite complicated.
Remember at the start of this, people said, hey, should we do two and particularly have one that's got the ICE money and the shut down the border money and maybe some defense money and you get that passed and then you come back and do the taxes.
People thought, well, hey, if they do the first, they're going to lose steam and never get the taxes.
Then people came up a couple weeks ago and said, hey, this thing's so complicated.
Why don't we just strip the tax cuts out?
Because that's got to happen.
The clock's ticking on that.
Remember, that is the end of December.
It's got to happen this year.
If it doesn't happen, then next year it's gone.
You have a snapback, and you can't possibly have that.
That's a 68%, I think, tax increase as President Trump's laid out.
So that has to happen.
Don't know what the parliamentarian is saying right now.
Of course, Jon Thuna, those guys are going to be working through the night.
I would say, particularly some of the things she took out, like stopping the Medicaid payments for illegal aliens, which has to come.
I mean, you could argue in certain areas of Medicaid, and I realize people are very sensitive about MAGA, but certain areas of Medicaid maybe haven't cut enough.
It's certainly the work requirements and the no Medicaid payments at all for illegal aliens are absolutely base.
You have to do that.
If you don't do that, you're not going to have a country because you're not going to be able to pay for any of this.
I understand they've come of a solution, Senator Hawley and guys, for the rural hospitals, although I think there's a big spread between the bid and the asking.
I think it's $15 billion.
And I understand people are saying, well, no, it's going to be closer to $100 billion.
These are real numbers.
And that's why every decision we have is a tough decision.
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Okay, a lot going on.
We're going to break down everything on Intel, everything else.
I may actually be on the road doing the show for a couple of days.
We've got a couple of three surprises for you.
So we're going to figure all that out as soon as I get off here and jump into a couple of meetings and figure out what we're going to do.
We will be back here at 10 a.m.
Eastern Daylight Time tomorrow morning.
I commit to you, I guarantee you that we will be on fire because, like I said, you have the convergence of many crises.
We're going to leave you with the right stuff and we'll see you back here at 10 a.m.
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