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June 26, 2025 - Bannon's War Room

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Episode 4589: Big Beautiful Bill And Hard Choices; Defunding VOA

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jim fanell

05:15

kari lake

09:26

steve bannon

22:13

terry schilling

05:48

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lisa rubin

01:19

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darrell issa

00:32

mike lindell

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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		My country, this country will be saved.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
unidentified		It's Thursday, 26th June in the year of our Lord 2025.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		After I'm given that big, you know, oh, it's over.
		We're getting out of the Middle East, you know, no more, because CENCOM, the centrifugal, the three most powerful institutions in this city, and I'm even including justice in Supreme Court because they're very powerful, but they're not quite at the top.
		The three most powerful are the CIA, the Federal Reserve, and CENCOM.
		CENCOM has a gravitational pull that even Obama couldn't pivot away.
		Even President Trump, who did an amazing job in the first term, very tough.
		And right now they got it.
		Even as we were speaking, and I'm saying, hey, it's over.
		President Trump, it's total obliteration, done.
		He's even going to let the MULAs get some cash.
		He's moving on.
		He's sending out true social support.
		Even as it just comes across breaking news.
		U.S. intelligence believes Pakistan is developing a nuclear-armed ICBM capable of reaching the United States.
		This is Pakistan that President Trump just had this chief of staff of the army and nominated President Trump for the Nobel Prize, right?
		Officially nominating for the Nobel Prize.
		Here's my point.
		Pakistan has had, I don't know, 181 nuclear weapons.
		He had Dr. Khan, who actually spread it, I think, to North Korea.
		And these guys people said this is how people in the Middle East have gotten nuclear weapons, et cetera.
		That's not the point of this.
		The point of this, this is another MacGuffin.
		I'm not saying they can't develop ICBMs.
		Why does it come?
		Why is it released on the very day Trump said, hey, the war is over and we're not going to fight a war in Iran.
		We're done.
		We're done.
		This is the deep state.
		This is the arms manufacturers.
		This is the madness that drives this town.
		And if we don't break it and we don't break it now, we don't break it now, it's never going to stop.
		And it shouldn't be lost on you.
		Netanyahu has always said, and we'll pull up the clips this afternoon, after Iran, you know, Pakistan is going to be a problem.
		Pakistan is going to be a problem.
		It's insanity.
		And they will not stop until we force it to stop.
		And forcing it to stop is one, is we have to have in complete and total clarity about what is in the vital, vital national security interests of the United States.
		Of course, there's many things that may touch the national security of the United States, but the vital national security interests of the United States, like the southern border and repelling this invasion.
		This is why we argue for years.
		Fox and remember Kiev Levin.
		He was Kiev Levin at that time.
		Zelensky's Churchill.
		Zelensky's Churchill.
		Remember how Fox, Zelensky's Churchill had all their little Ukrainian flags and they pushed that?
		Remember, same crowd pushing the Iran war, pushing Zelensky.
		He was a Churchill.
		He's Churchill.
		I couldn't think of a guy farther from Churchill than Zelensky.
		They're pushing that nonstop.
		Why?
		They want another forever war.
		They want another forever war.
		They're dead wrong on that.
		And we kept saying, the eastern Russian-speaking border of two Slavic entities is not about the vital national security interest of the United States.
		The southern border of the United States, which now has millions of illegal alien invaders coming through, that's the vital national security interest.
		But then they all promote it Langford.
		Oh, well, we've got to have like a bill that's going to take 20 years to do it, and you get 2 million illegal aliens a year before anything kicks in.
		That's neoliberal neocon, okay?
		And what has President Trump done?
		The hemispheric defense from Greenland to the Panama Canal, in the Central Pacific, in the three island chain, okay, from the Arctic to the Panama Canal, including the Monroe Doctrine, because Latin America or South America falls in there with our allies, Argentina, and our soon-to-be ally again once Lula's turfed out of Brazil, of which we'll get him turfed out of Brazil eventually.
		So Captain Finnell, talk about the brilliance of the giants whose shoulders we stand on.
		These guys, it's not like even President Trump is now reclaimed.
		This is part of his, you know, you got Washington at the birth of the nation, General Washington, Lincoln at the rebirth of the nation, and Trump of the reclamation, the reclaiming of our greatness.
		And he talks about McKinley and tariffs all the time.
	It's McKinley, it's the giants of the 19th century post-Civil War that manifest, that saw the global, they saw the continental power of the United States to be a force for good.
	And you know where they looked?
	They didn't look to the Middle East.
	They did not look to Europe.
	They did not look to sub-Saharan Africa.
unidentified		They looked West, to the vast Pacific.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The vast Pacific is McKinder's, what Eurasia is to McKinder, the heartland, and whoever controls that will control Eurasia.
		The Central Pacific is bigger than that.
		When you look at the Pacific, it takes up half the globe.
		It's the reason that Jack Pasovic and Captain Finnell and Lieutenant Stephen K. Bennon were 7th Fleet sailors because the core thrust of the Navy has always been in the Pacific.
		Captain Finnell, the floor is yours.
		Why is hemispheric defense so brilliant?
		Why does that put us right in front of the Chinese Communist Party?
		And they understand that.
		The Chinese Communist Party are brilliant strategically.
		They get it.
		That's why they're in the Caribbean.
		That's why they own the Panama Canal that we're taking back.
		That's why they have carriers going east of the second island chain, sir.
jim fanell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Steve, I think what you've described in terms of our focus as a nation on the Central Command AOR is something that, you know, it's a fact.
		And we have been pouring precious resources into a lopsided Defense Department.
		Yes, the Navy has ships.
		Yes, the Navy still has carriers.
		I know somebody was on last week that said we put all our eggs in the carrier basket.
		But the fact of the matter is, as a nation, we have decimated the size of our Navy from 600 ships in 1986 until under 300 today, while we've continued to grow and build the Army and the Marines, but mainly the Army and this obsessive focus on ground war, whether it's in the Middle East or Ukraine.
		Now, who knows what they're going to do with this Pakistan report?
		Let us not forget that India is a nation of over a billion people and is very concerned about Pakistan.
		So I think we can have our friends in Delhi and the Indian military look after Pakistan's programs.
		We don't have to lurch over there.
		But it seems like there is this obsessive pattern of trying to continually get us bogged down into this land warfare business and forgetting our responsibilities for maritime issues.
		And as you said, the Pacific Ocean is massive.
		The Pacific Ocean is 20 times the size of continental United States.
		I say that again, 20 times the size.
		Okay?
		It's huge.
		It's massive.
		And China has been expanding into it for the last quarter of a century while we have been sitting by and doing nothing.
		You have Cleo Pascal on frequently to tell us how the Chinese are making inroads into Oceania, the South Pacific Islands, the Central Pacific Island chains, where they're advancing their diplomatic and economic interests there and pushing us out.
		They're building the military, they're building the economic strength.
		And you talked about the greats of the 20th century.
		Well, we had before World War II, we had great men from both parties and women, but mostly men that said, look, Japan's growing, we need to do something.
		And they said that in the late 30s.
		And by 1940, we passed the Two Ocean Navy Ship Act, which essentially built the Navy that defeated the Imperial Japanese Navy.
		It took three years for that Navy to come online from the first time that those resources were passed by Congress until they showed up in the Pacific for Admiral Nimitz to use.
		Three years when we had an industrial base that could deal with that money and produce those ships.
		We don't have that industrial base today.
		So we are in a very dire situation when it comes to the maritime domain, and we need to get off and we need to stop this idea that each service gets a co-equal share, because if we continue down that line, we will never be able to restore the power of the U.S. Navy and our maritime domain.
		You saw the president in Europe say to the Finns, hey, you guys make great icebreakers.
		We're going to buy some from you.
		Can you imagine a president of the United States having to say that 50, 80, 100 years ago that we're going to buy ships, icebreakers from Finland?
		Well, today we have to because it's a reality of where we're at.
		And I know President Trump's going to do everything in his power to restore that.
		But one of the key things that he has to do is he has to take and he needs to get this National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal year 2026, the one that's being worked on right now that's going to go into the big beautiful bill.
		And somebody needs to grab that, the Secretary of the Navy, and they need to have a knife fight to say, why are we spending all this money on ground warfare equipment?
		Right now, the U.S. military has over 50 Army brigade combat teams.
		Each one of those teams is 4,000 to 5,000 people.
		And when you take into the construction cost and the duration or the length of service of one of those teams, it costs 4 or 5 times as much as it does for a U.S. Navy destroyer, which only has 300 people.
		And U.S. Navy destroyers are multi-mission platforms.
		They can shoot down incoming missiles.
		They can shoot land attack cruise missiles.
		They can do many things.
		Whereas an Army Brigade combat team is designed for one thing, to put boots on the ground in the Middle East or wherever else we're going to go in Ukraine.
		So we've got to ask ourselves, we have to have a strategic pause right now in the Defense Department to say, where do we think our strategic vulnerabilities are vis-a-vis the People's Republic of China, which is the existential threat.
		They have declared war on us and they've been gobbling up and taking territory both physically and economically and diplomatically and they've killed hundreds of thousands of people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We talk about Iran, we talk about the Persians, and they talk about 1,000.
		They got to go back to 1983, the horrific bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut to get to 1,000.
		The Chinese Communist Party are killing, murdering 50,000 Americans every year just with fentanyl.
		They have a chemical warfare.
		It's a chemical warfare attack on the United States.
		They already did a biological weapons attack on the pandemic.
		These people are not, they're playing for keeps.
		Okay?
		They're playing for keeps.
		They want to become a global hegemon.
		And we need to awaken to that, of where the real center of gravity of this.
		Now, I just want to make sure when I was a junior officer and came off C duty and worked for the CNO, when he says knife fights, this is the type of thing in the Pentagon that gets so brutal.
		The inter, not agency, but the inter service robbery, and particularly for budget and resource allocation, is more brutal than we take to the enemy.
		So I want to make sure, particularly, I don't want Captain Maureen Banning kicked off the board at West Point as she starts.
		We're going to have the Army on here to make their counter-argument, which they're going to do a great job.
		But we're going to begin on this show a strategic Dialogue in a level of sophistication you're not going to get anywhere else.
		Why?
		This audience demands it.
		Captain, for now, we got to punch.
		Your latest article about the strategic brilliance of Midway, but how it informs us today of the decisions we have to make.
		Where do people go to get that?
jim fanell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's entitled The Battle of Midway: The Big, Beautiful Bill and Hard Choices.
		It's on American Greatness.
		You've got it up, and I'd ask people to look at it.
		It's not that I'm anti-arming.
		We need an army.
		We desperately need an army, but we don't have the Navy that we need to face the threat that is at the knife at our throats right now.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Amen.
		Captain Jim Finnell, fantastic.
		Two professionals, Pasovic and Captain Finnell.
		Really appreciate you, sir.
		President Trump, let me just reiterate this, and he just put out one true social note about the brilliance of the briefing this morning.
unidentified		The 12-day war is over.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		President Trump had total obliteration with one of the most sophisticated and successful military operations, by the way, the most sophisticated and brilliant since the Second World War.
		And I would say maybe the bombing of Japan and the bombing of Germany and D-Day would be at the, and maybe submarine warfare, unrestricted submarine warfare, that level of complexity of what he accomplished as commander-in-chief.
		It's over.
		The Tel Aviv Levin crowd and all the people that are chanting and being pom-poms up for a foreign government, you understand.
		It's over.
		You lost.
		Okay?
unidentified		You lost.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		And without any name-calling or throwing your toys out of the pram, understand one thing.
		America comes first.
		And American citizens come first.
unidentified		We're pivoting out of the Middle East as we should.
unidentified		And pivoting now to where we should be focused.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The hemispheric defense of the United States of America.
jim fanell ▲ ● ▼		Shortly.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Back.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		I know the audience is waiting for this.
		We're pivoting away from, just like President Trump, we're pivoting away from the Middle East.
		Once again, President Trump said no war.
		We got other stuff to do, and there's huge stuff going on.
		Number one, and I'm trying to get some, make sure we get some experts.
		So we got three, we're going to have Kerry Lake up in a minute, brilliant yesterday over in the House.
		We've got a huge news coming out of the Supreme Court, and of course, Terry's going to join us, shilling.
		Maybe the biggest news of the day for what's going on.
		You should understand there's tons of fights going on behind the scenes in the Senate about exactly how to get this bill and somehow get it that you can have a vote that's close enough to what the House did that you don't have to go back to the House and have another vote and then go to conference.
		Their belief is because they didn't take the path early to go to two separate bills, their belief is they do that.
		And remember, they all want to get out of here in August.
		And for the first time, I can actually, when Washington's 100 degrees every day and 94% humidity, you can actually imagine maybe they should take August off.
		But with so much to do, we would actually recommend being here and maybe having meetings every day with the FBI about what's going on over there.
		But I digress.
		The big, beautiful bill, because it's a reconciliation bill.
		Now remember, they're doing an appropriations process for 26 at the same time.
		And I think we got the veterans appropriation finally voted.
		But the reconciliation bill, when they talk about these numbers, it's kind of a gimmick to begin with.
		It's something that comes out of the Senate that you don't need to break the filibuster.
		So you don't need 60 votes.
		You can actually do this in a majority.
		And as we have a majority, a couple seat majority in the House, which we passed the bill last time, and you have, what, 53, 47 in the Senate, they're going to use as many of these reconciliations as they can.
		So now we have this situation with the big, beautiful bill.
		And the term big, beautiful bill, they've been polling this.
		Doesn't poll well because people, they don't really understand it.
		And it sounds like you're going to spend a lot of money.
		And people are saying, well, hey, you should be cutting money.
		So there's all types of things in the reconciliation that I think don't directly go to actually budget-related things into money.
		And that's a problem.
		And so right now, the parliamentarian and the parliamentarian is a person that is not elected, right?
		She actually deems, it's kind of like in the British system, they deem what can actually go to these bills, and it's even more brutal than the Rules Committee.
		My understanding is she has deemed overnight and this morning, there are certain aspects that the Senate has been counting on, particularly this complexity of Medicaid.
		And you've heard here recently over the last couple of days about the rural hospitals.
		And they've actually said, you know, you've had Senator Hawley on here and other people.
		They're saying, hey, the rural hospitals will get eviscerated in this.
		You'll be shutting down all the rural hospitals.
		And not just for the good of the country, but just thinking practically, politically, it's where a huge bulk of the MAGA base lives.
		And you'll actually be taking the people that voted for you.
		You'll actually be taking away any shot at healthcare.
		Okay, we have a very special guest.
		We're going to play a cold open.
		Is she by phone or Zoom?
unidentified		Wow.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Let me get Carrie Lake.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Let's get you in here.
unidentified		Carrie, first off, tell us, what are we about to see?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We're going to play something that's so extraordinary.
		It's Carrie Lake at her best.
		What are we about to show here, ma'am?
kari lake ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm not sure exactly which clip from yesterday's hearing in the House Foreign Affairs Committee, but I went in and laid out all of the absolutely abhorrent, shocking, and frankly espionage going on over at Voice of America and U.S. Agency for Global Media and all of its outlets.
		I mean, I laid out the fact that we've got massive security failures where 1,500 people were improperly screened.
		And, you know, the intelligence agencies were telling, it took away the ability for the agency to even screen people.
		And mind you, they're bringing in an exorbitant number of foreign nationals from hostile nations to work at this agency To go out and tell America's story abroad.
		I talked about hiring of spies, including Russian spies.
		I talked about how there's no editorial control management.
		U.S. Agency for Global Media has no editorial control over what goes out over the airwaves about America abroad.
		But yet, some of the folks working there regularly go to the Chinese agency and get messaging tips from CCP officials there about how they should cover China.
		The list goes on and on and on.
		There's also the shocking waste of money going on, including things like spending money on music festivals and spending money on sponsoring a Afghan cricket team to the tune of 100,000.
		It's just the agency is complete rot.
		I understand why President Trump wants us to boil this down to the statutory minimum, and then he's called for the elimination of the agency by next year.
		And so I'm working really hard to effectuate the president's executive order.
		And I think I laid out a pretty good case of why the president's right here and why we must continue to move forward in boiling this agency down to its statutory minimum and then eliminating it come next year.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I'm going to hit rewind for a second.
		If you can stay through the break, I want to play the clip on the other side because it's Carrie Lake at her best.
		And also, Carrie Lake is the best for taking incoming, right, and then giving it back to you.
		But I want to hit this point.
		This is how the deep state in the administrative state worked.
		This started as kind of a good idea at the end of World War II, right?
		But it metastasized to a massive agency.
		And Kerry, I want you to just go back.
		Not only was it putting out information and propaganda that was counter, not just to America First and Donald Trump, but counter to everything our country stands for.
		It was infested with agents of influence and spies from all things.
		And until Donald Trump empowered Kerry Lake and deputized Kerry Lake to be the new sheriff in town, over and over and over again, Michael Pack, one of my filmmaking partners, was out for three years getting crushed before McConnell actually let him come and get confirmed.
		They eviscerated this guy's reputation because they didn't want him to get in there.
		McConnell, right, and McConnell's wife.
		He got in there and tried to do some changes.
		And of course, they had a revolt right away.
		And the Republicans took up the head.
		When I talk about the corruptness of the Republican Party, they allowed the Democrats to do this for decade after decade after decade after decade to basically have an anti-American propaganda arm paid by taxpayers that they actively recruited agents of influence and spies to work against America.
		And it wasn't until he picked one of the toughest broads I've ever met, and that's Kerry Lake, to go in there and say, I don't care what you do.
		I'm taking this thing down to the bolts, right?
		To the very basic statutory requirements.
		And I'm getting all the spies out of here.
		I'm getting all the agents of influence out of here.
		And we're stopping taxpayer money going in to pay for anti-American propaganda.
		Kerry Lake, the floor is yours, ma'am.
kari lake ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, and just last week it was announced that we issued another reduction in force.
		I have cut the workforce by 85% at this agency.
		1,400 people have been terminated or been given notice of termination.
		And we're going to make it lean and mean.
		We're down to 250 people.
		We have the ability to ramp things up if big news were to break.
		I think our coverage over the weekend of the bombings in Iran, I think we did an exceptional job with a small, lean staff.
		Actually, we were able to move more nimbly because it was a smaller staff.
		And we're operating in just the languages that the statute requires.
		It had gotten so out of control.
		We were basically providing local news to all places around the globe.
		And the question was, why?
		Why are we doing local news in Botswana?
		Why are we reaching places that we don't really have to focus in on?
		And the worst thing is we were doing news, like you said, that went against what we believe as a country.
		It was going against our national security interests.
		And it was askew to what we were doing on a world stage.
		It was actually the antithesis of what we're trying to accomplish in diplomacy on a world stage.
		So this agency is a giant rot, and I'm working hard.
		And you mentioned Michael Pack.
		He was in the hearing room yesterday.
		He got the ball rolling with doing some investigations.
		He never got the credit he deserved.
		He worked very hard.
		They tried to tear him apart.
		And it should tell you how corrupt this agency is.
		Michael Pack was given that role by President Trump early in his first administration.
		They dragged their feet.
		It took three and a half years for them to confirm him because they didn't want him to get in and look under the hood at this corrupt agency.
		It's one of the deep state's most favorite agencies.
		They call it pound for pound the most corrupt agency in all of Washington, D.C. And I've been there now for a few months.
		I've been working really hard, and I can affirm, I believe it is the most corrupt agency in Washington, D.C. Kerry, I can't tell you, and behind the scenes, people are saying, it's just such an amazing job you've done.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		PAC was selected, I think, in February, March of 2017, and they held him out to drive for three and a half years, but he would not.
		It's the longest from a nomination to a confirmation in the history of the Republic.
		And it was Mitch McConnell and the deep staters in the Republican Party that did not do that.
		Kerry, hang on for a second, because I got to play just a small clip when we get back of you taking incoming and giving as good as you get.
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		Short commercial break.
		Carrie Lake on the other side.
unidentified		Ready to admit you lost the 2022 Arizona election.
kari lake ▲ ● ▼		It saddens me that you are from Arizona and you're okay with me that you are from Arizona.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I think that's the answer is no.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Reclaiming my time.
darrell issa ▲ ● ▼		The gentleman, the gentleman will suspend.
		We'll stop the clock.
		For all present, members are reminded to avoid engaging in personality toward the president and other members.
		Okay.
		And this is a member of the administration, so I would caution all to stay on the subjects and stay off of personalities.
		Please.
		Gentlemen may continue.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And in this case, these are adjudicated lies.
unidentified		Courts of law have determined that these are lies.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		These are not me saying it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		You didn't just lie to the press.
kari lake ▲ ● ▼		Those are really awesome.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		You took those lies to court.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Let me one final question.
darrell issa ▲ ● ▼		The gentlelady will suspend, please.
darrell issa ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		You lost for governor in 2022 to Katie Hobbs.
		You lost even worse to Ruben Gallego for Senate in 2024.
		Well, Arizona has another election for governor next year.
		Will you do us all a favor and run it back and run for governor again?
		I yield.
darrell issa ▲ ● ▼		The gentleman more questions are going to be a good question.
kari lake ▲ ● ▼		Can I respond to some of that?
		Because that was complete insanity.
		I wish I could yield back the last five minutes of my life, actually.
		And I want to apologize to the people of Arizona that we have somebody who's representing the folks in one of our great parts of the valley that doesn't care about the integrity of our elections, what the editorial content is.
		And I would hope that you would not be okay with that.
		They could literally put out a lie about anybody here.
		And I know you've been the victim of that.
		I know you've been the victim.
		remember the stories about you where they said you had a gay lover and those were going Can I?
unidentified		I hope you honor what you just gave as a caution to everyone.
darrell issa ▲ ● ▼		And I moved those words behind you.
kari lake ▲ ● ▼		To tell you that those kind of lies, and you said those were lies, those kind of lies could be broadcast today on VOA, and you couldn't pick up the phone, Representative Stanton, and call them and say, hey, you're putting out lies about me.
		You would not be able to do that because they would sue you for breaking the firewall.
		Number of languages.
		But most of all, what we reviewed was an executive order March 14th by the man who's in charge.
		Do you have an executive?
unidentified		I want to know.
kari lake ▲ ● ▼		His name is Donald Trump.
unidentified		Do you have a record that you can produce?
		The chairman said you had a bunch of things with you.
		Do you have a record of what you reviewed and who you reviewed to?
kari lake ▲ ● ▼		We reviewed the statute.
unidentified		Do you have a record?
unidentified		Yes or no?
kari lake ▲ ● ▼		We have the statute and the statute.
kari lake ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we can pull that statute.
unidentified		Not the statute, the record of individuals that you reviewed, interviewed, or talked to before you committed your actions of dismantling.
kari lake ▲ ● ▼		I worked with, I talked to a lot of people at the agency.
unidentified		Do you have a record of that?
kari lake ▲ ● ▼		You could go back and look at emails.
unidentified		Do you have a record?
kari lake ▲ ● ▼		Do you want me to pull emails?
unidentified		I want you to show the record of what you did, Ms. Lake.
kari lake ▲ ● ▼		Well, you can look at it.
unidentified		I'm going to do something that's not verified.
		Tell me, show me the record because that's what I hear oftentimes in the business.
		You have to have a record.
		Show me the record that you did, what you did.
		That's all.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
		I love this so much.
		Carrie Lake just pulls the grenade and rolls it into the tent.
unidentified		Carrie Lake, what was that all about, ma'am?
kari lake ▲ ● ▼		Well, on the Greg Stanton, the Representative Stanton, I urge everybody right now watching to go look at my tweet.
		I just posted a photo of him, and I really wish he cared more about election integrity than his extracurricular activities.
		I mean, this election integrity is a very important issue.
		It's coming to the forefront.
		We're starting to see some action and movement on getting to the bottom of what's been wrong with our elections for so long.
		But the fact that he sat there and not only exposed himself about elections and how he doesn't care, but exposed himself on not caring about our national security, on being okay with an agency that spends nearly a billion dollars bringing in folks from nations that are hostile to America rather than hiring American citizens.
		You know, this is one of the deep states' favorite little agencies.
		They're bringing in people, as I said, they weren't vetted.
		Many of them have turned out to be problems spies, national security risks, and they're putting out anti-American information around the globe in many different languages.
		And so I'm really proud of the fact that I am leading the charge to boil this thing down to what is absolutely mandated by law and nothing more.
		And that's exactly what we're doing.
		And I hope Greg Stanton takes a good look in the mirror and asks himself why he's even representing the people of Arizona if he doesn't give a damn about elections and if he doesn't give a damn about national security.
		I just posted a photo of him that I think your listeners and viewers will be interested in.
		It's on my Twitter.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We'll pull it out right now.
		Kerry, magnificent job.
		Everybody in town's talking about how you're at the forefront of, and really, this is how they've recruited agents of influence and spies for years at VOA.
		And finally, we found somebody, the Joan of Arc of the MAGA movement, Kerry Lake, with this.
		You've got to steal spies.
		People don't realize how tough you are.
		I mean, they have attacked you nonstop every day to get you to stop this.
		And Kerry Lake goes, no, the president deputized me to do it.
		And I'm going to do it, ma'am.
		That's why I think they've called you Trump in heels for so long, Kerry.
kari lake ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've got the full power and authority given to me by the president to run this agency, and I'm here representing the president and the taxpayer, the American taxpayer, who nobody in this town seems to care about, except when it comes to taking their money.
		And so we're going to be responsible to the American taxpayer.
		I could go on for hours.
		We could do a special.
		I mean, they brought in somebody, they were abusing the J-1 visa system, which is how you bring in people who are all pairs and camp counselors and students, to bring in these people to work at the agency rather than hiring American.
		They're bringing in foreign nationals to tell America's story.
		If you aren't from here, you don't understand our history, you don't speak our language, and you don't understand our culture, how the hell are you going to tell America's story abroad?
		And so there's a million problems.
		I remember meeting somebody who came in on one of these, abusing one of these visas, to be the correspondent at the White House, one of the most secure places in the whole country and in the whole world, frankly.
		And he was there to be the Spanish-speaking correspondent.
		And they brought him in on a J-1 visa.
		He was Italian.
		Are you trying to tell me we can't find Americans to work for this outlet who speaks Spanish?
		We have to bring somebody in and a shady visa from Italy to work in the White House to be a Spanish-speaking correspondent.
		None of it makes sense because it's very shady.
		And we're going to work hard.
		They're going to rue the day that they ran elections the way and robbed the people of Arizona from having me as their governor because we are going to do the people's work now in Washington, D.C. And they're going to see what kind of work I do for the American taxpayer.
		And I'm honored to be working for President Trump in this administration.
		And we will not stop, they will not stop us from doing our work.
unidentified		Amazing.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Carrie Lake, where's your social media?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Where do people follow this story on a daily basis, ma'am?
kari lake ▲ ● ▼		You can follow me on X, and you can follow me on Getter, and you can follow me on Rumble and Facebook.
		I'm on all of them.
		It's just at Carrie Lake, K-A-R-I-L-A-K-E.
		You know, I've taken a lot of hits.
		I know you have as well.
		And once you've been through the fire, it's a lot easier.
		You know, once you've kind of conquered your fear, that's when you really start living and working.
		And that's what I'm doing here in Washington, D.C. Wow.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		You have no fear.
		You're fearless.
		The Joan of Arc of the MAGA movement, Carrie Lake.
		Honored to have you on here, man.
kari lake ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		She has a spine of steel.
		What she's done to this Voice of America and the whole global, that media asset, is historic.
		Historic.
		Do we have a clip on the Planned Parenthood?
		Let's play the clip on Planned Parenthood, and we'll bring in Terry.
		Let's go ahead and play it.
unidentified		And now let's turn to some breaking news from Washington, where we're just getting decisions in from the Supreme Court today.
lisa rubin ▲ ● ▼		We got a case now involving Planned Parenthood.
unidentified		Lisa, tell us about this decision.
lisa rubin ▲ ● ▼		Ana, this decision is really about two things.
		It's about the right of Planned Parenthood to serve people who are recipients in the Medicaid program, but it's also more broadly, and Leah can talk about this as well, about the rights of private people, individuals, to sue when states fall short of their obligations with respect to rights that are conferred by federal law.
		Those are called 1983 actions.
		And over the last couple of decades, and this court in particular has really eroded the ability of people to bring cases and what are called private rights of action to enforce their federal civil rights.
		Here, a Medicaid recipient wanted to enforce a federal law that says individuals can obtain Medicaid-related services from any qualified provider.
		And when the state of South Carolina tried to exempt all Planned Parenthoods from the Medicaid program, she and Planned Parenthood sued the state of South Carolina together.
		Today, the court by a 6-3 decision saying she doesn't have the right to use a federal statute to bring her own lawsuit against the state of Carolina to try and enforce her rights under the Medicaid program.
		They're finding that this is more analogous to a spending statute than it is one that confers.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Let me take it.
		A little technical there.
		So cut to the chase, Terry.
		Why are people jumping up and down about this in Planned Parenthood, sir?
terry schilling ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's because this is the first time that the states are being allowed to defund Planned Parenthood.
		It's a big victory, Steve.
		And we haven't seen this, and we wouldn't have this victory, obviously, without President Trump winning in 2016 and winning again.
		So what's happening here is they're freaking out because now Planned Parenthood's taxpayer mountain of funding, which is almost a billion dollars annually, is under a threat, not just from the feds and from the national government.
		We see that Planned Parenthood is defunded in the big beautiful bill, but now they're at threat of having their money defunded at the state level.
		We're putting a lot of pressure on Planned Parenthood.
		And see, we just have to be clear.
		They have nothing to do with Planning Parenthood.
		They actually have everything to do with preventing parenthood.
		What Planned Parenthood does is they confuse young children about sexuality.
		They teach them really weird stuff.
		They even have an AI generated chat robot, sex chat robot, for children as young as 13 without any age verification.
		But they do that.
		So they confuse kids about sex and pervert them.
		They sterilize people through these gender transition procedures that they're now giving.
		They've expanded.
		They don't just do abortions.
		They don't just kill babies now.
		They also sterilize young children against their parents' wishes and even knowledge.
		This is a bad organization.
		They kill babies, they sexualize children, and they sterilize people.
		They shouldn't get a dime of taxpayer funding ever.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		So, by the way, the big beautiful bill kills it at the federal level.
		Are now the state's going to kill Planned Parenthood from taxpayers?
		If they want to run private donations, that's their own deal.
		But do you think this will lead to all the states, at least all the red states, shutting it down?
terry schilling ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, the one big beautiful bill is incredible because it puts a 10-year defund on all Medicaid funding for Planned Parenthood.
		We'll see if this survives the parliamentarian, which the parliamentarian's been wreaking absolute havoc on a lot of key provisions here in this big, beautiful bill.
		But we've got to fight back here.
		But if we defund this at the national level, there won't be a lot for the states to do on defunding Medicaid because it'll already be illegal to fund them with tax dollars through Medicaid at the federal level.
		But it's just a great opportunity, Steve.
		It's another big pro-life win that wouldn't have been possible without President Trump.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I have two other things to do.
		There's a big First Amendment case coming up about porn verification, I think, age verification.
		Give me a minute on that before we go to break, and then I got to ask you about all the victories in transgender, your big focus.
		Hit me on first on this age verification.
		Why is this even a controversy?
terry schilling ▲ ● ▼		Well, Steve, just in the past four years, we've managed to reach up to, or I think we're up to 23 states now that have passed some sort of age verification requirement for porn sites.
		This is not controversial.
		It has 80, 85% support across the board, depending on which state you're polling it in.
		But what happened is Texas passed an amazing law just last year, and the porn industry formed this organization called the Free Speech Coalition.
		And they sued Attorney General Ken Paxton.
		And they're basically saying that requiring porn sites to verify the age of users is unconstitutional, puts an undue burden on the porn consumers out there.
		Steve, the nicotine guys, they do age verification.
		The alcohol guys do age verification.
		The gambling guys do it.
		The weed guys do it.
		I mean, every adult-based industry online does age verification, except for porn sites.
		I think we're going to win this battle.
		We'll know tomorrow.
		It's going to be announced.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, hang on for one second.
unidentified		I've got to talk to you about the transgender ideology next.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Battle.
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		Terry Schilling, I haven't had time.
		This afternoon, we're going to spend more, but man, the parliamentarian, just explain to people for 30 seconds.
		The parliamentarian came out last night and this morning and crushed us, right?
		Over in the big, beautiful bill.
		You took a shot below the waterline.
		Tell us what the parliamentarian is.
		What is she doing?
		Why can she do this?
		And what was the hitch you guys took today?
terry schilling ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		So basically, because this is a reconciliation bill, you only need 50 plus one votes in order to pass.
		This is a bill that's outside of the Senate filibuster rules.
		You don't have to get 60 votes.
		And the parliamentarian has to rule whether or not each one of these amendments and writers in the big beautiful bill passes what's known as the bird bath.
		Now the bird bath says that everything in this bill has to be germane to the funding mechanism.
		So it can't be a policy decision.
		It has to be just purely funding.
		Well, what she ruled this morning, she struck down a lot of things.
		In fact, she says that we can't even defund health care for funding, taxpayer funding of health care for illegal immigrants, which is totally crazy.
		But she struck down this morning provisions that would defund all gender transition or sex change procedures through the federal government, through Medicaid.
		It's a total disaster.
		There's going to need to be something done about her and these provisions.
		I don't know exactly what the answer is yet, Steve, to be totally frank, but we just found out about this this morning, but we're planning to get it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The original concept of this, I think, was Senator Byrd, the guy who was around forever.
		And it kind of had a good thing.
		If you're not going to break the filibuster, what they didn't want in this particular, they didn't want to slide in major policy decisions that were in kind of a bill on a budget bill.
		So the concept is not wacky.
		Now, what's happened is that some of the things, some of the biggest things like illegal aliens of Medicaid, she's eviscerated so much in the bill today.
		I think it's a huge setback unless guys get workarounds.
		For you guys, you've had so many wins at the state level.
		How is this going to put back destroying this transgender ideology on the taxpayer's dime, sir?
terry schilling ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, we're now up to 27 states.
		So over half of the country has now protected at least children from these gender procedures by either, well, that's 27 states that have banned these procedures and prohibited it.
		So we're winning there.
		But we've got to defund this.
		Steve, this stuff did not explode.
		You didn't start reading about it until it was taxpayer funded, right?
		Before the taxpayer dollars were opened up to it, both through mandates through health and human services, through Obamacare, but also direct funding through Medicaid.
		No one even knew what transgender was.
		And this is back in 2008, 2009, but Obama changed the rules.
		So this would do a lot by defunding gender transitions nationally through Medicaid, it would do so much to clean up this mess and protect children even in California, right?
		We need to, this is not healthcare.
		This is not helpful.
		Every long-term, like logistical and reliable study that's been out there shows us there's no benefits, especially long-term benefits to gender transitions, even for adults.
		So we've got to put up as many hurdles as possible and making the financial burden, taking that away from taxpayers and people that don't want their dollar.
		By the way, see, this is an 80-20 issue.
		Again, no one wants their tax dollars funding this stuff.
		So we've got to defund it and protect everyone.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, where do people go?
		I know you're going to put more information up about this today.
		Where do people go, Terry?
		Social media and website.
terry schilling ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so it's just shilling 1776 across all social media platforms or AmericanPrinciplesProject.org.
		Check us out.
		We're going to be keeping everyone updated in real time, and we'll also be keeping you guys updated on the Free Speech Coalition versus Paxton for age verification at the Supreme Court tomorrow.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Probably get that tomorrow.
		Remember, the last couple days of June, you get all the results.
		Thank you, Terry.
		Appreciate you.
		Keep fighting.
unidentified		Thanks, Steve.
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