June 24, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the final scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going to medieval on these people. | ||
| Everyone's not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop it, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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Waru, here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | |
| It's Tuesday, 24 June, in the year of our Lord. | ||
| In the year of our Lord, 2025. | ||
| Just double-checking it. | ||
| Don't get hurt with my producer who's trying to hurt himself over there. | ||
| Senator Hawley, you're one of the few, if not the only, real populist in the Senate. | ||
| I know you're close to President Trump. | ||
| You talk to him a lot. | ||
| There's a lot of people in our audience that are big fans of yours that say, hey, look, I don't really understand. | ||
| Is Josh Hawley trying to push to keep Obamacare? | ||
| I don't really understand the Medicaid part of it. | ||
| Because, as you know, the big battle we've had over this for the last decade. | ||
| Can you just take a second and explain your position on this? | ||
| Because I know you're just as concerned about the debt and deficit as Ron Johnson. | ||
| Put it in kind of whole cloth. | ||
| What position are you taking, and why does it make sense? | ||
| And why is it prudent? | ||
| Here's my overall position. | ||
| I'll just take my state as an example, state of Missouri. | ||
| We've got 1.3 million people, Steve, who are on Medicaid, including hundreds of thousands of kids. | ||
| And here's the important thing to know. | ||
| Most of these people are not folks who are deadbeat, staying at home, not working. | ||
| These are working people who are on Medicaid because they don't have a job that gives them insurance on the job. | ||
| Thank you, Democrats and globalists who have destroyed our economy, our working class economy. | ||
| So now working people can't get those kind of jobs anymore. | ||
| Number one, so they don't get it on the job anymore, the health insurance. | ||
| And number two, they can't afford it on the exchange. | ||
| Thank you, Obamacare, because insurance is so incredibly expensive. | ||
| They can't afford to buy it. | ||
| So they're on Medicaid. | ||
| These are Trump people. | ||
| These are our people. | ||
| These are the people who voted for Donald Trump in the state of Missouri by 18 percentage points. | ||
| And Steve, these are the same people, particularly in the rural parts of my state, and we are a rural state. | ||
| They just, Medicaid is all they got. | ||
| And that's not because they're lazy. | ||
| It's not because they're bums. | ||
| These are good working people, Trump voters. | ||
| But in today's economy, because of what the globalists have done to our economy and our industrial sector, this is all that they've got. | ||
| And my position is, the same as the president, for those hardworking people, we shouldn't take away Medicaid, the only thing they've got. | ||
| Now, if they're not working, should they be working? | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| They need to go work. | ||
| If you can work, you need to go work. | ||
| You shouldn't be getting a handout. | ||
| But if you're paying in with your tax dollars and you can't otherwise afford something, then we ought to keep your Medicaid. | ||
| And here's the other piece of it, Steve. | ||
| Rural hospitals. | ||
| Again, half the hospitals in the state of Missouri are rural. | ||
| I'm from a little town in Missouri. | ||
| I'm a small town boy. | ||
| I grew up in a town of 4,000 people. | ||
| Small. | ||
| And it wasn't a suburb either. | ||
| I was out in rural Missouri, not near any city. | ||
| We had a little hospital there. | ||
| I always joke, I was a frequent guest with all my sports injuries growing up as a kid. | ||
| And we cannot close down half the hospitals in Missouri. | ||
| None of our people are going to be able to get any health care. | ||
| So here's the task. | ||
| How do we protect rural hospitals while cutting out the Obama-Biden garbage out of this budget beginning with the Green News scam? | ||
| That's what we ought to do. | ||
| We ought to cut out all the Biden spending, $4 trillion. | ||
| We ought to get rid of all the subsidies to China, all the subsidies to Wall Street, all the garbage for the hedge funds. | ||
| But our people, we got to protect them beginning with those rural hospitals. | ||
| That's my view. | ||
| And, you know, that's the president said. | ||
| That's what the president said. | ||
| You know, save Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid. | ||
| That's what he said. | ||
| I think he's right. | ||
| And we got to get something to his desk that does that. | ||
| I think the House did a pretty good job on this, Steve, to be honest with you. | ||
| And at this point, I think, hey, let's take what the House did. | ||
| If we need to make a few tweaks, cut out a little more stuff, a little more garbage, let's do it. | ||
| But let's get this thing to the president's desk. | ||
| That's my position, my priority. | ||
| I know you talked to the president. | ||
| He agrees with you. | ||
| But when you've got still the Biden spending, and he came out over the weekend and adamant, it's all got to go. | ||
| And you've got the Green New scam, which he hates, that's all got to go. | ||
| The difference between the bid and the ask and the Senate, just as we're sitting here on Tuesday with the 4th of July coming upon us, I think you guys are going to vote tomorrow. | ||
| This vote's starting here shortly. | ||
| Those two priorities for the president of where he wants cuts are not happening right now. | ||
| Am I correct? | ||
| I mean, it's got your voice and a few other voices, but do you think those cuts will happen? | ||
| I hope so. | ||
| I mean, the president could not be more clear. | ||
| Cut out the green new scam. | ||
| Why are we subsidizing? | ||
| I'll give you just one example here. | ||
| Our subsidies right now for electric vehicles and electric vehicle manufacturers, they don't just go to manufacturers in the United States using all these Chinese components, by the way. | ||
| Actually, Chinese manufacturers, straight up Chinese manufacturers, can get these subsidies. | ||
| It's our tax money. | ||
| Why we would ever want to give China, our biggest global economic competitor, our own tax money so that they can build cars we don't want, hike up the price, and sell them back to us at a huge profit. | ||
| It's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. | ||
| All of that ought to go. | ||
| It's costing us trillions of dollars. | ||
| All of it ought to go. | ||
| That's what the president said over the weekend. | ||
| He's 100% correct. | ||
| We need to do that. | ||
| We need to get rid of that spending. | ||
| We need to root out the climate change, Green New Deal garbage that Biden spent $4 trillion on. | ||
| We need to make permanent all of the Doge cuts, all of that, the waste, fraud, and abuse, get rid of all of it. | ||
| And we can do that, protect rural hospitals, like the president said. | ||
| You know, I come back to the fact the House bill, which the president negotiated, pretty much got there. | ||
| So my view is like, let's quit screwing around with it. | ||
| Let's get this thing to the president's desk. | ||
| I want to go about talking about slipping things in. | ||
| MTG brought this up, but you got this thing, and we're believers in federalism, right? | ||
| We're not neo-Confederates like Newsom and the crowd in L.A. that are sanctuary cities and going up against federal law and the deportation of these illegal aliens. | ||
| But they're making an argument in Silicon Valley for this 10-year about the 10-year ban on any states having any say-so in artificial intelligence. | ||
| They're saying, hey, Hawley's a good guy. | ||
| He went to an OK school, so he's okay. | ||
| But the rest of the Rubes in Missouri, there's no way we want them having any say-so whatsoever that we do in the great artificial intelligence war with China because we've had a Sputnik moment, and the people in Missouri are nice people, but they're rural people. | ||
| They don't really understand technology. | ||
| They particularly don't understand, they're decelerationists, not accelerationists. | ||
| And so therefore, they cannot have any say-so over the next decade. | ||
| Your response, Senator Hawley. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| This AI thing is insane. | ||
| And here's what it would do, Steve. | ||
| We need to be real clear on this. | ||
| These AI companies are coming for your rights. | ||
| They're coming for your job. | ||
| These AI companies, they're already, if you have anything you put on the internet, you write a little poem, you put a picture of your kids out there, you post something. | ||
| It doesn't matter what it is. | ||
| They take it. | ||
| Are they paying you for it? | ||
| No. | ||
| Are they asking you permission? | ||
| No. | ||
| Are they getting your consent in any way? | ||
| No. | ||
| And they want to keep on doing it. | ||
| They want to keep on taking your name, your image, your likeness, your property rights. | ||
| They want to take all of it so that they can train their systems on it and make billions of dollars. | ||
| What are you going to get out of that? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| And it's going to get worse because they're going to use that technology to start training up robots. | ||
| They're going to drive the trucks. | ||
| They're going to run the factories. | ||
| They're going to take our jobs. | ||
| I mean, and they're boasting about it. | ||
| Don't take my word for it. | ||
| Just go listen to the AI guys. | ||
| They celebrate it. | ||
| I'll never forget the CEO of Microsoft testifying in front of the Senate, Steve, and he was talking about, well, we don't really need non-creative jobs in America. | ||
| AI will just get rid of all of them. | ||
| And I was like, what are we talking about here? | ||
| Oh, we're talking about guys who work the assembly line. | ||
| We're talking about guys who are in the factory floor. | ||
| I'm like, wait a minute, you're just going to eliminate all their jobs? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| That's what these AI companies want. | ||
| And now they've gotten a sweetheart deal in the Senate version of this bill that says they can't be touched, regulated, you can't protect people's rights against them. | ||
| And it gives it to them for 10 long years. | ||
| Steve, it's ridiculous. | ||
| We've got to find a way to get this out of the bill. | ||
| This is a disaster for working people. | ||
| We need to be going the opposite direction. | ||
| We ought to be giving working people more control over their name image likeness. | ||
| We ought to be protecting working jobs, not giving these corporate titans control over everybody's lives. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| But, Senator, you're going to have in the world's most deliberative body, you're going to have a huge debate about that. | ||
| This is just not slipped in the middle of a bill to be passed, of a 9,000-page bill. | ||
| Certainly, the defenders of this are going to get out on the floor and take you and others that are fighting against this on in a massive debate that'll take days and days and days. | ||
| Is that what we expect? | ||
| are they just slipping it in the middle of the night? | ||
| Oh, no, what they're trying to do is slip it in in the middle of the night. | ||
| Steve, right now, this is in this bill. | ||
| It's in the Senate version of the bill. | ||
| This is what I was talking about a minute ago. | ||
| The longer this bill sits over here in the Senate, you know, the more it changes from what the President and the House negotiated. | ||
| And this is one of these changes where they've taken a provision and made it much worse. | ||
| So now that we've got this AI thing that they've slipped in, and Steve, their goal is to pass this in this bill in a way where nobody can touch it, where there's no debate, there's no public scrutiny, and presto, it's done. | ||
| And I'm just here to say, I'm not going to let that happen. | ||
| We'll try to strip it out of this bill. | ||
| If we can't get it stripped out of this bill, we'll come back with another bill on the floor that will strip it out. | ||
| But there is no way I'm just going to sit back and say to the working people of my state and this country, yeah, we're just going to let AI come for you. | ||
| I mean, no way. | ||
| That's what we did with the free trade and the globalists 30 years ago. | ||
| They made all the same arguments. | ||
| Oh, we've got to have free trade to beat China. | ||
| We've got to have free trade so that we can democratize China. | ||
| Now they're saying that about AI. | ||
| My message is you leave our jobs alone. | ||
| You leave our rights alone. | ||
| You leave our people alone. | ||
| We're going to stand up for working people. | ||
| Senator Hawley, how do people find out more about you? | ||
| Where do they go for all the information around you and your mission? | ||
| You can follow me at HollyMo. | ||
| That's on X and all the social media handles. | ||
| And certainly look me up on the web. | ||
| We'd love to have you. | ||
| Thank you for spending time with us, sir. | ||
| I understand your business. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| Matt Schlapp, thank you for joining us. | ||
| I don't have you here for CPAC thing, although I want we've got one of the Hungarian members of the CPAC going to join us on Wednesday. | ||
| I'd love to get your back or talk about it. | ||
| But you're here for something I think is very important. | ||
| And Ambassador Grinnell, I went over to, I was able to go over to Kennedy Center and see the change in the staff and the mentality and the spirit, the sprit de corps, seeing a magnificent presentation by the National Symphony Orchestra, I think the Cathedral choir, in the National Cathedral Choir on a playing of Amadeus, the film about Mozart. | ||
| It was just incredible. | ||
| And the staff has just got so much sprit de corps now. | ||
| What's happening? | ||
| There's another musical. | ||
| The president was about to see Le Miz, and there were going to be some big controversy. | ||
| Nothing happened. | ||
| They had a great thing. | ||
| But what's happening on Hamilton? | ||
| Is something happening on Hamilton? | ||
| Yeah, so Le Miz, Mercy and I and all of our kids were able to go. | ||
| It was a great performance. | ||
| And it was great to have the president back at the Kennedy Center. | ||
| I mean, there's a lot of us who believe that the arts should just do the arts and raise us up and maybe give us a political timeout, which we don't get much of as we go and consume modern stuff. | ||
| But the more traditional stuff like Les Miz, keep the politics out of it. | ||
| And I think that's the goal of the Kennedy Center, whether you have a Democrat president or Republican president. | ||
| But, Steve, this will shock you. | ||
| But the cast and crew of Hamilton is boycotting the Kennedy Center because they hate Donald Trump. | ||
| They won't listen to the results of the election. | ||
| And they're going to browbeat. | ||
| It's kind of ironic. | ||
| All the socialists and commies that live around Washington, D.C. won't be able to see Hamilton at the beautiful Kennedy Center because all these people are boycotting it. | ||
| And, you know, I was thinking last night as we were talking about this as a family and saying, you know, all of us around Red America go buy these tickets, or a lot of us do, to go see these plays, go to these movies, et cetera. | ||
| And while they're actually boycotting Donald Trump here in Washington, D.C., I think everybody around the country needs to be aware that Hamilton is basically put its vote in with the commies and the socialists, and they're part of the resistance, and they're trying to fight Donald Trump. | ||
| They're fighting Rick Rennell. | ||
| They're fighting the Kennedy Center. | ||
| They're fighting the resurgence of the Kennedy Center, which is now very well funded and doing a great job, as you said, with a great esprit de corps. | ||
| I don't think we should buy their tickets. | ||
| Let's go do something else with our money until these guys get their act together. | ||
| My understanding is that Hamilton has been purchased by the Disney company. | ||
| And I think the Disney company should tell the cast and crew of Hamilton to knock it off. | ||
| I bet Disney probably has a few ass in this tax bill and other pieces of legislation that are going on. | ||
| And we're tired of the politicization of all these companies and all of these once great creative products like Hamilton. | ||
| And so I think it's time for us to stand up and vote with our wallet. | ||
| You're saying step one is cancel any ticket you've got for the roadshow because that's what this idea is cancel right now. | ||
| Do not support these guys, right? | ||
| Yeah, let's get them to change their boycott of Donald Trump and Rick Rinnell at the Kennedy Center. | ||
| Let's get this thing ended. | ||
| Let's get it ended now. | ||
| The only way that'll happen is with your voices and with your pocketbook. | ||
| Matt, what's your social media? | ||
| I'm going to get you back on here and talk about CPACs around the world in the next couple of days. | ||
| Where do people get you in the interim? | ||
| At M Schlap on all the major platforms. | ||
| Matt, thank you so much. | ||
| Say hi to Mercy. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| Your better half. | ||
| You married up, as I always say. | ||
| Hamilton, in the grill of the commander-in-chief, given everything he's trying to do to actually implement many of the policies of Alexander Hamilton, particularly around tariffs and trade. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Back in the warm in a moment. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | |
| Senator Rand Paul joins us, Senator, as one of the leading, I would say, non-interventionists in the United States Senate. | ||
| Can you give us your thoughts of what's happened over the last couple of days, and particularly President Trump getting to a ceasefire that it seems like Bibi Netanyahu was hell-bent for leather for not following his directions, sir? | ||
| You know, I'm hopeful that the ceasefire will hold. | ||
| I think if you look back at foreign intervention over the last couple of decades in the Middle East, the United States enters, you know, with the noblest of intentions, but the unintended consequences of war in Libya, war in Iraq, war in Afghanistan have been trillions of dollars of our treasure, thousands of our soldiers lost. | ||
| And I hope Iran doesn't end up that way. | ||
| I think, you know, the president, I know him pretty well. | ||
| I think his instincts are not to get us involved. | ||
| I think that from the Constitution point of view, he should have asked us. | ||
| Had I been president, I would have come to a joint session of Congress and asked for a declaration of war before dropping the bombs. | ||
| And the reason is, is that while the president may ultimately exercise a judicious restraint and not go further than this, all presidents need to be restrained. | ||
| And that's why the Constitution, Madison put it this way. | ||
| He said that the executive branch is the branch most prone to war. | ||
| Therefore, with studied care, the Constitution vested this power in the legislature. | ||
| I mean, this was a big debate during our founding fathers' time because they were, you know, they wanted to get away from the chronic wars of Europe. | ||
| And they came here and they really wanted a country that wasn't always at war. | ||
| And so they really wanted to make it difficult to go to war. | ||
| Do you believe that it took that level of actually a declaration of war? | ||
| I mean, he was responding, and this is why I think it's incumbent upon the Senate today. | ||
| I think you're having the behind doors on this intelligence, that this last-minute intelligence we got that said it was a clear and present danger immediately and that Israelis had to go try to take it out, which obviously we found out after President Trump's raid that they never lifted a finger to do anything about that, or at least they had us even send tomahawks to the above ground. | ||
| So it's kind of confusing what they were really doing and why they needed our help. | ||
| But do you think that in that emergency, given his, we actually had to go get a declaration of war? | ||
| I don't think there was any imminent change in Iran's position. | ||
| Tulsi Gabbard put out the intelligence report about three months ago, and this is the same intelligence report that we've had for years. | ||
| Netanyahu, I think, first said in 2012 that Iran was weeks away from getting a nuclear weapon. | ||
| Now, they've always been weeks away from having enough enriched uranium, but that's not enough really to have a weapon. | ||
| It takes more technology beyond just having the enriched uranium. | ||
| But they've never gone to the point where they've had the enriched uranium. | ||
| I think they've always had the capability and have always been within a couple weeks. | ||
| And I don't know that anything had changed really. | ||
| I think the main thing had changed is that Netanyahu judged that they were weak and he could attack them. | ||
| And, you know, nobody wants them to have a nuclear weapon, but I think it's still unknown what the result of this will be. | ||
| Will Iran capitulate and say, never again, we're going to behave. | ||
| We want to be part of the community of nations. | ||
| Or will Iran respond with a sprint to creating a nuclear weapon? | ||
| There are news reports out today saying that 400 kilograms of enriched uranium at 60% was spirited out before the attacks. | ||
| I don't know the truth of this, but it's been in the news. | ||
| There is also the question of whether some centrifuges were removed as well or whether there are other sites. | ||
| I'm not sure you can bomb away the ability to make a nuclear weapon. | ||
| It takes about 40 kilograms, and if they took 400 kilograms, they got enough for about 10 weapons. | ||
| That can be hidden almost anywhere. | ||
| So we'll see what happens. | ||
| I hope that they won't develop a nuclear weapon. | ||
| I hope that the war will not continue. | ||
| But I guess I rest my judgment on the previous incursions of so many presidents from Obama to Bush overseas that really didn't go as planned, and I think lost a lot of treasure and a lot of life needlessly. | ||
| Are you, I mean, that's a pretty big charge. | ||
| Are there any senators going to actually demand to know from the Netanyahu government side, what information was given, why the emergency, why, you know, because it looked like the bombing, you know, remember, nuclear weapons are not about the science, which is pretty well known, it's about the industrial process to actually make a bomb and deliver it. | ||
| Are you or any other senators agree with you that are going to call for some sort of deeper look into what the Netanyahu government's been doing? | ||
| You know, I will be at the classified hearing at 4 o'clock this afternoon. | ||
| The problem is, is what is discussed won't be available to be discussed publicly. | ||
| But I think there should be some public discussion. | ||
| And the closest we have to that discussion is that our intelligence community releases something publicly, and they judge whether or not anything has changed and whether they've made a decisive commitment to creating a nuclear weapon. | ||
| And the assessment of our intelligence community, and this isn't just one person, this is the entire intelligence estimate. | ||
| Many people, all the different intelligence agencies feed into this, and then there's a report written. | ||
| But I don't think there's a great amount of dissension upon that. | ||
| Now, I know there was a little bit of dissension or discussion back and forth between Tulsi Gabbard and the president, but I think they were saying actually the same thing. | ||
| Tulsi Gabbard never said that isn't uranium enriched enough that they could create a weapon in the next few weeks, but the judgment of not just her, but the entire intelligence community was that they had seen no signs to indicate that they were immediately or imminently developing a nuclear weapon. | ||
| Well, I hope you can, because I think it's pretty open now that I hope you can ask a couple of pointy questions of John Ratcliffe and the CIA, because I think the CIA, and they've been pretty open, and other intelligence services, came to a different conclusion over those couple of days and said that there was some emergency that had to go, Israel had to go on that Thursday night, Friday morning. | ||
| In fact, and Beebe came on Fox on Sunday night with Brent Baer and said, yeah, they're making a surge, but they're 12 to 13 months away, which is a mantra he's had since 1996. | ||
| So I hope that you ask, I think the intelligence community did with the exception of John Ratcliffe and the CIA. | ||
| And I hope that you ask some pointed questions and make sure we get, we have to get to the bottom of this. | ||
| This is why I think the American people get so skeptical. | ||
| The president and the military takedown of what the apparatus they had was magnificent. | ||
| But you're putting people in harm's way. | ||
| And I think the American people who backed President Trump want to make sure they get all the information. | ||
| I mean, aren't they even in a non-classified form? | ||
| Because you don't want to give up sources and methods, but somehow we have to get to this thing of how the intelligence community had one view, and then all of a sudden we hear that the CIA and others had another view, sir. | ||
| Yeah, I agree completely, and I will ask those questions in the hearing if it gets to me. | ||
| The hearings are difficult because there could be as many as 80 or 90 senators, and they'll go around the room for an hour or two, and then they'll say, time's up. | ||
| So, you don't always get a question, but I will try to ask that question. | ||
| And what you've just said is accurate and true, is that most of this discussion doesn't have to be classified. | ||
| In fact, when I go to these classified hearings, most of the things that are said are really not classified. | ||
| They never mention names of sources or where we have people. | ||
| And frankly, I've always said I would prefer not to hear original sources. | ||
| I don't want to endanger these people by ever letting something slip that might endanger our people. | ||
| But the discussion over whether or not we had evidence, where it's gathered, is immaterial, whether or not we had evidence that something had materially changed. | ||
| I don't believe so. | ||
| I think Israel struck out of this idea that they had the least resistance it had in a long time. | ||
| Hezbollah had been decimated. | ||
| Yemen is somewhat in check. | ||
| The Houdis are somewhat in check. | ||
| And I think that they believed Iran to be weak enough. | ||
| And, you know, the assessment looks pretty keen that they were weak enough, that both Israel and the United States were able to get in and out unscathed. | ||
| But it really isn't the end of the question. | ||
| It's the beginning of the questions now. | ||
| Did something change in that intelligence? | ||
| But also the question will be, does this stop them? | ||
| And I think it's an open question. | ||
| Does this stop them from getting a nuclear weapon or does it spur them to get a nuclear weapon? | ||
| And I think that's an open question. | ||
| We'll find out over time. | ||
| We played, we're the only broadcaster, only streaming service that played in its entirety, Lindsey Graham yesterday, I think 40 minutes on the Senate floor, making an impassioned case for regime change. | ||
| We only got you for another couple of minutes, but are most of your colleagues taking the assault from Fox News nonstop? | ||
| Are most of your colleagues in the Senate with the President of the United States and we will not engage in regime change here, sir? | ||
| I would say Lindsey Graham is on the extreme war side or neoconservative side of things, and he always has been. | ||
| I don't think the President has ever been there, and in my conversations with both of them present in a small group, the President has always sort of chided Graham for being too far out there on the limb of trying to intervene everywhere all the time and be involved in every war. | ||
| And I don't think that's the President's natural inclination. | ||
| I do appreciate that President Trump is now saying to Israel in fairly forceful words that they need to adhere to the ceasefire. | ||
| I hope that will stick. | ||
| And I hope the President will stick that this is all we're doing and no more. | ||
| I still have a constitutional question with the way it was done, but I hope for the best. | ||
| I mean, I don't want our country to be involved in another mire down in another Middle East war. | ||
| And I think Iran would put both Iraq and Afghanistan to shame in being such a large country. | ||
| And there's no way U.S. troops could occupy it. | ||
| There's no way Israel could occupy it in any reasonable fashion for any reasonable time. | ||
| Militarily, we're incredibly superior. | ||
| And really, the last week has shown that. | ||
| Unmatched is our military, and Iran has nothing to stand up to it. | ||
| But it's still an open question how they respond. | ||
| Do they respond in a chastened way where they stop nuclear development, or do they respond in a headlong push towards the bomb? | ||
| And I think that really is an unknown. | ||
| Senator, we only got 30 seconds. | ||
| We'd love to get your back on the big, beautiful bill. | ||
| Do you think, we asked Senator Hawley this, do you think it'll be on the President's desk to sign on July 4th as you sit here today, sir? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Probably, actually. | ||
| I think some of it, some of it's good. | ||
| I'm all for the tax cuts. | ||
| I voted for them in 2017. | ||
| It needs more spending cuts, and we really should divorce the debt ceiling. | ||
| Raising the debt ceiling $5 trillion, not conservative, and that's really my main opposition to the bill and keeping me off of it. | ||
| But I think there is a way that I could get back on it if they would separate out the debt ceiling, let the Democrats vote for that. | ||
| Don't have conservative Republicans owning the debt. | ||
| We'd love to get you back on that very topic. | ||
| It's one that we focus on a lot. | ||
| Senator Rand Paul, social media. | ||
| Where do people get you, sir? | ||
| Randpaul.com or on Twitter or Facebook. | ||
| Wherever you want to look, we're there. | ||
| Senator Rand Paul, thank you so much. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
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| The streets of New York City, where geopolitics is playing out this very day in a Democratic primary. | ||
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| Alex Swarrier. | ||
| We've got Jackie Torbos from the streets of New York. | ||
| She's going to talk to us about this very important Democratic primary today on geopolitics. | ||
| Alex Swarrier, we worked together many years ago. | ||
| In fact, we're streaming Matt Boyle's conference on our other channel. | ||
| He's with the Secretary of Energy. | ||
| In fact, that might have wrapped up. | ||
| Alex, we worked at Breitbart together years ago. | ||
| You're now out and about. | ||
| You've become a big-time journalist. | ||
| Lawless Lawfair. | ||
| I know you're a lawyer. | ||
| Why did you write this book? | ||
| What drove it? | ||
| What's in it? | ||
| And why should this audience buy it? | ||
| I wrote it as both a legal affairs reporter and a lawyer, having covered the 2024 election and just seeing all the charges coming down against President Trump, his allies like you, even just everyday Americans. | ||
| I highlight in the book a couple out in Texas that did a counter protest to a Biden bus. | ||
| And somehow, of course, Democrats in big law came after them under the Ku Klux Klan Act, claimed They were interfering with the right to vote. | ||
| They ended up winning this case as it went to trial, but that cost them, this average couple, just $300,000. | ||
| And so there's stories like that all throughout the book. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Is this the one-stop shop? | ||
| If we want to know everything about the law fair that was targeted at President Trump, because you covered it as a report and you're also a lawyer, is this the one-stop shop? | ||
| We go, if you want to see all of it, it's here in this book. | ||
| There's books that talk about the weaponization of government, but this book details the law affair. | ||
| So I talked to Laura Trump and Don Jr. | ||
| I got their perspectives as part of the family about how it affected them. | ||
| Both of them had told me they were confident that if Trump did not win, Democrats would put him behind bars. | ||
| That was the ultimate goal. | ||
| And Laura Trump gave me an interesting quote. | ||
| Actually, she said, you know, it was pretty raw, that they didn't really want to go into all the details about what they've experienced through this, but that even getting a mortgage was something that the family was impacted by. | ||
| And you think with the Trump last name, how could that be possible? | ||
| She walked me through the phone call when the president was on his way to get that mug shot in Fulton County. | ||
| She predicted, I think rightfully so, that it would be Elvis Presley level. | ||
| I think that, you know, that mug shot and of course the image of the assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania became just so iconic for the 2024 election. | ||
| There's a few other pieces of information that I just think your viewers should know. | ||
| When I was looking at these gag orders that were handed down against the president from criminal courts, and as a criminal defendant, you should be able to have all liberty to speak out and defend yourself. | ||
| But not President Trump. | ||
| He was under these gag orders and he did about 90 campaign rallies while under these gag orders from criminal courts, which if you care about the First Amendment, if you care about political speech, the fact that that precedent was even set should really trouble you. | ||
| And the media just played along. | ||
| Media Research Center actually had some really good data I was able to use in this book. | ||
| April 2024 report showed that when they covered, it was ABC and NBC, they did like 99 stories on the Fulton County litigation in Georgia. | ||
| When they talked about Fonnie Willis, they never identified her as a Democrat. | ||
| Why is that important? | ||
| She was running for re-election at the time. | ||
| So you would think a reporter would say, you know, the district attorney going after the leading Republican presidential candidate, Fonnie Willis, is herself running for re-election as a Democrat. | ||
| And it's important context for viewers to know, and it just gives even more notion to viewers about how political these charges are. | ||
| I don't want to bury the lead. | ||
| I want to make sure people understand the stakes here. | ||
| Go back. | ||
| Who told you that the purpose and focus here was to put President Trump in prison? | ||
| Who told you that? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So Don Jr., Laura Trump, they both were very confident that it became aware to them as the family was going through the campaign that had he not won, they fully believe he would have been locked up. | ||
| And I've heard from a number of people, including you yourself, that the Democrats, their goal with this law affair, it's really to silence their opposition and to bankrupt them. | ||
| And that's just obviously anti-American. | ||
| The justice system is supposed to be blind. | ||
| What we've seen the left do, it really threatens the separation of powers. | ||
| And it was something that they have done in the past, but it mushroomed under Trump. | ||
| It mushroomed during the 2024 election. | ||
| And now we see it in the form of trying to oppose his agenda now that he's in office. | ||
| I've got about a minute left. | ||
| I've got to ask you point blank in the reason people should buy this book. | ||
| If they steal this in 28, do you anticipate the way they control the deep state that we're not through the lawless law fare, ma'am? | ||
| No, I think that you just hit a nail on the head. | ||
| I actually point out that the federal lawsuits against President Trump were dismissed, but they were not dismissed without prejudice. | ||
| So if you get a really biased prosecutor in there in 2028 that wants to try to resurrect Some of these federal charges. | ||
| Some of them, the statute of limitations, is eight years. | ||
| They could do that. | ||
| Is it likely? | ||
| I'm not sure, but they could try. | ||
| And unless President Trump has some sort of committee that he puts together to do something about this, to put the lawfare cork back in the bottle, I think that this could be the new norm. | ||
| And it's a huge threat. | ||
| Swara, you're one of the smartest people and hardworking people I know. | ||
| What's your social media? | ||
| Where do they get all your writings and your great reporting? | ||
| And where do they get this book? | ||
| Because you should get this book. | ||
| It's a one-stop shop to understand not just what happened and what President Trump and all of us overcame as a movement, but what lies ahead. | ||
| That's the important thing. | ||
| What lies ahead. | ||
| Where do they go, Swarier? | ||
| And Mike Davis wrote the foreword. | ||
| He was very good about laying out, you know, what lays ahead with the judiciary. | ||
| They can find the book at Amazon and also online at Barnes Noble. | ||
| They can find me on X at Ace Warrior. | ||
| That's S-W-O-Y-E-R. | ||
| And some of my work is also at the Washington Times. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| Yeah, The Washington Times is great. | ||
| And they can also read a little bit of those, there's a little bit of those Don Jr. snippets and Laura Trump snippets at the National Pulse. | ||
| They can take a look there, too. | ||
| Raheem. | ||
| Okay, we'll post those. | ||
| Grace and Moa post those today. | ||
| Alex, good luck with the books. | ||
| Can't wait to push this thing out. | ||
| I hope Mike Davis is not getting, I hope you're not giving him a taste of this for the Article 3 project. | ||
| Ma'am, thank you. | ||
| We love Article 3. We've got enough volunteers to go do it. | ||
| So thank you so much, ma'am. | ||
| Appreciate your channel. | ||
| Thank you so much, Bannon. | ||
| Lawless Lawfare. | ||
| Swarrier's a tough nice. | ||
| She's a tough ombre like Davis. | ||
| Make sure you read it. | ||
| I'll tell you another tough ombre. | ||
| Torboroff. | ||
| What in the hell is happening? | ||
| You women up there, you moms, are fighting like crazy in Manhattan. | ||
| I thought we might be winning. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I thought we might be winning. | ||
| Now I'm like, what in the hell is going on? | ||
| Can you explain to the people? | ||
| Because nobody's paid attention to this. | ||
| What in the hell is happening today, ma'am? | ||
| Yeah, what's happening is we have an Islamist who is 33. He basically became a U.S. citizen around five years ago. | ||
| He has a degree in African studies. | ||
| He trained with Empower Change, which is to create and train Mini Linda Sarsours. | ||
| It is funded by George Soros, and someone thought he would be excellent to run for New York City office. | ||
| And if we end up electing this person, it really could be the end of New York City. | ||
| And really, New York City is the center of gravity. | ||
| He's not running for New York City office. | ||
| He's running for the mayor of the most important city in the world, is he not, ma'am? | ||
| Yeah, he's running for New York City mayor. | ||
| He is really doing great with the young voters. | ||
| And it's really, it's a crazy situation because this is what he is supporting. | ||
| He wants to raise minimum wage to $30 in 2030. | ||
| He wants to raise the, he wants to, pardon, he wants to increase by $10 billion the corporate taxes. | ||
| He wants to raise corporate tax rate to 11.5% and 2% income on all residents making $1 million annually. | ||
| He wants the city to run grocery stores. | ||
| John Catsumatidis of Gristides has threatened to close all of his New York City supermarkets and relocate his headquarters. | ||
| I mean, just think about this. | ||
| Literally, breadlines are a coming and he wants to have a rent freeze. | ||
| He wants to make affordable, high quality housing for everyone. | ||
| He wants free, universal pre-kindergarten for everyone. | ||
| He wants free bus fare for everyone. | ||
| This is a guy who really just, not only is he a Democrat socialist, he's an Islamist. | ||
| So you have these two horrific ideologies that are very much intertwined and completely the antithesis of New York City. | ||
| And I will say one other thing. | ||
| How do you know he's an Islamist? | ||
| I see his policies are kind of Democrat, working people, the Working People Party and the Democratic Socialists. | ||
| That's kind of their agenda. | ||
| And some of those are nice aspirations, but you can't afford it, right? | ||
| But why do you say he's an Islamist? | ||
| Well, first, the Working Family Party, they're against work and they're against families. | ||
| So the Working Family Party and DSA, which is the Democratic Socialists of America, they are absorbing the Democrat Party. | ||
| Why do I say he's an Islamist? | ||
| He founded SJP, which is Students for Justice in Palestine. | ||
| He founded that chapter at his college. | ||
| Again, he worked at M Power Change, which is to create mini Linda Sarsours funded by George Soros. | ||
| He fought harder for Mahmoud Khalil than pretty much any citizen. | ||
| I mean, any voting citizen in New York City. | ||
| He pretty much defends the anti-Fatah. | ||
| He likened it to, you know, something that happened in the Warsaw ghettos. | ||
| And as anyone with eyes can see, New York City is besieged by these Islamist protests that are really pro-Hamas protests almost daily. | ||
| Jackie, where do they go for your, by the way, for ranked choice voting, does he have a chance to actually win? | ||
| Or is it you're afraid he's going to come in second and become a power player in New York? | ||
| So ranked choice voting is designed to help people with similar ideologies like this win because they all pull together. | ||
| I actually do not think Zoran is going to win. | ||
| I think Cuomo is going to win. | ||
| I have the numbers. | ||
| It's 57 to 43 right now, Cuomo to Zoran. | ||
| And this is per YouGov and Yale polling. | ||
| Again, it's 57 to 43. Today is going to be huge. | ||
| I think everyone needs to come out. | ||
| As you like to say, there are no easy choices left. | ||
| Cuomo is not a great choice, but there is no doubt he is a better choice than a democratic socialist and an Islamist who really will just be the death knell of New York City. | ||
| You have business leaders, Fortune 500 leaders, entrepreneurs. | ||
| They are all threatening to leave. | ||
| That is the tax base. | ||
| They are threatening to leave. | ||
| And there are no more federal handouts for this. | ||
| So once the tax base flees, we're stuck with this guy. | ||
| We have no ability to bail yet. | ||
| We got to bounce social media so people can follow you during the day. | ||
| We'll get you back up this afternoon. | ||
| Where do people go? | ||
| Yes, please come to my Instagram, Jaclyn4NYC. | ||
| That's J-A-C-Q-U-E-L-I-N-E-F-O-R-N-Y-C. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| One of the fire breathers. | ||
| Thank you, ma'am. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
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| Just announced, and I can't make head nor tails, what Senator Paul is talking about, the intel committee, I think the Iran discussion, or maybe it's something Iran's been postponed, Jake Sherman saying House till next week, Senate till Thursday. | ||
| I hope that's not the Intel brief that they're going to get today. | ||
| We've got to get to the bottom of this thing. | ||
| And I believe, given the whole explanation of what Netanyahu's government did, information they gave us, why the urgency, why the upsells all the time, why did they start something that not only couldn't they finish, they couldn't even protect their own citizens? | ||
| Yesterday was horrific for Israel. | ||
| And I think if you're going to continue on and continue to give the money and support and put people in harm's way, particularly this thing right now is, you know, it's every minute that President Trump's got to do something. | ||
| We need to take a hard look, and I mean a very hard look, of exactly if they're supposed to be allies. | ||
| We don't really have an alliance or a special relationship. | ||
| The relationship does not feel very special, particularly for the non-interventionist, and particularly for non-interventionists who support Israel as we do. | ||
| It doesn't look right. | ||
| It doesn't feel right. | ||
| And the reason is it ain't right. | ||
| There's a lot of ugly stuff that happened, and we got to get the answers. | ||
| You have to get the answers. | ||
| And people said, well, see, you shouldn't ask those questions. | ||
| It's not going to happen. | ||
| America first means these decisions are made by citizens of this country. | ||
| President Trump, the weight on his shoulders, that's why it's so short. | ||
| Don't take it from me. | ||
| Look at Donald Trump when he's walking out of the White House today after everything he did. | ||
| And quite frankly, a lot of that's driven by the brutal assaults on the Israeli people yesterday. | ||
| And knowing they're running out of ammo. | ||
| How did you possibly conceive to start this thing when you had no ability to finish it even on the nuclear weapons side, but you knew that you couldn't protect your own people? | ||
| Who does that? | ||
| Tell me, who does that? | ||
| And all that bluster and then upsell us to a regime change, which you clearly tried to make the pitch that opening weekend, it's outrageous. | ||
| And it cannot be left to stand. | ||
| So people that love Israel and people that support Israel should understand we've got to get to the bottom of this because now you're in it. | ||
| President Trump says the 12-day war is over. | ||
| That's his words, not ours. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| And so for Fox News and all the propaganda department over there, President Trump said the 12-day war is over. | ||
| Please support the president in trying to make that stick. | ||
| And if the Persian people want to throw out those bums and hold them accountable, that's up to the Persian people. | ||
| Our recommendation is they do it, but that's up to them. | ||
| That's up to them. | ||
| But what happens with the Netanyahu government, I don't know how anybody can trust them going forward. | ||
| President, look what happened last night when President Trump said, I want it stopped. | ||
| You signed a deal. | ||
| We agreed this is going to stop. | ||
| This man is going to get a couple hours of sleep with all the pressure on him, get a couple hours of sleep before heading off and dealing with this Ukraine situation. | ||
| And he tells you point blank, I want it stopped. | ||
| And he wakes up, and it's worse than he can imagine. | ||
| You see how mad he was today? | ||
| And he deserves to be mad. | ||
| Charlie Kirk's going to follow us. | ||
| Jack Pisobic after that. | ||
| I know the interventionists, all the people who want to spill American blood and treasure all over the world ain't happy about this five hours. | ||
| We got Gruber, Bowling, then back to the war room. | ||
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| I don't know. | ||
| Shouldn't waste any more time on that. | ||
| Maybe, just maybe. | ||
| Charlie Kirk. |
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