June 18, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| Not Harvey Weinstein, but somebody else. | ||
| Harvey's seen a better day. | ||
| So it won't be Harvey, but it will be somebody. | ||
| And he'll say, that guy is perfect for a movie. | ||
| And you're going to become a star, and your friends are going to call you, and you won't even return their phone call anymore, you know? | ||
| Because you say, what do you do for a living? | ||
| I put up flag calls. | ||
| I'm not even going to talk to you. | ||
| I'm a big movie star. | ||
| So some way you have that. | ||
| Anyway, let's have a good, they call it a lifting. | ||
| They also use another word, but I'm not going to use that word. | ||
| Do you know what that is? | ||
| It starts with an E. Do you know what the word is? | ||
| If I ever used it, I'd be run out of town by you people. | ||
| All right, so enjoy it. | ||
| Doug, you're going to get some goodies. | ||
| He's going to win another Nobel Prize, I think, for this picture. | ||
| So maybe the flag will be even more exciting. | ||
| But this is pretty exciting. | ||
| That's some equipment, I'll tell you what. | ||
| Look at that crane. | ||
| That's some beautiful equipment. | ||
| There's nothing like a Have a good time, everybody. | ||
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Have you been to answer questions about whether you are moving closer, or you believe the U.S. is moving closer to striking Iranian nuclear facilities? | |
| Where's your mindset on that? | ||
| I can't say that, right? | ||
| You don't seriously think I'm gonna answer that question. | ||
| Will you strike the Iranian nuclear component? | ||
| And what time exactly, sir? | ||
| Sir, would you strike it? | ||
| Would you please inform us so we can be there and watch? | ||
| I mean, you don't know that I'm going to even do it. | ||
| You don't know. | ||
| I may do it. | ||
| I may not do it. | ||
| I mean, nobody knows what I'm going to do. | ||
| I can tell you this, that Iran's got a lot of trouble, and they want to negotiate. | ||
| And I said, why didn't you negotiate with me before all this death and destruction? | ||
| Why didn't you negotiate? | ||
| I said to the people, why didn't you negotiate with me two weeks ago? | ||
| You could have done fine. | ||
| You would have had a country. | ||
| It's very sad to watch this. | ||
| I've never seen anything like it. | ||
| Everyone thought it was going to be the reverse. | ||
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I didn't. | |
| I didn't think so. | ||
| And I was telling them, you got to do something. | ||
| You got to negotiate. | ||
| And at the end, last minute, they said, no, we're not going to do that. | ||
| And they got hit. | ||
| Remember 60 days? | ||
| And then came the 60. 61 is going to become a very famous number. | ||
| That was one hell of a hit, that first hit. | ||
| That was one hell of a hit. | ||
| Not sustainable. | ||
| To be honest. | ||
| That's where it ended. | ||
| It ended on the first night. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Is it too late, though? | |
| Do you think it's too late to now? | ||
| Nothing's too late. | ||
| The only thing too late is Powell. | ||
| Powell's too late. | ||
| Too late Powell. | ||
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Have the Iranians reached out to you, Mr. President? | |
| What? | ||
| Have the Iranians reached out to you? | ||
| Yes. | ||
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And what did he say? | |
| I said it's very late. | ||
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You know? | |
| I said it's very late to be talking. | ||
| We may meet. | ||
| It's a... | ||
| There's a big difference between now and a week ago, right? | ||
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Big difference. | |
| It's about anybody. | ||
| They even suggested they come to the White House. | ||
| It's a big difference. | ||
| But they've suggested that they come to the White House. | ||
| That's, you know, courageous, but, you know, it's like not easy for them to do. | ||
| But they suggest because I can't go now because of what's going on. | ||
| I had to come back early from the G7, which was terrific, by the way, in Canada. | ||
| Really terrific. | ||
| Good people. | ||
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Is there a possibility of next week or sooner that you're Well, I don't know how much longer it's going to go on. | |
| They're totally defenseless. | ||
| They have no air defense whatsoever. | ||
| We've totally captured. | ||
| You know, we've totally captured the air, Brian. | ||
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Mr. President, you've been fairly compassionate towards the Iranian people's suggestions. | |
| I know a lot of people from Iran, from New York, from Washington, mostly from New York. | ||
| They're incredible people. | ||
| They're smart. | ||
| They're energetic. | ||
| They can be difficult, but so can you. | ||
| You know, no, they're great people. | ||
| Smart people. | ||
| And those people are getting the hell beat out of them now. | ||
| And it's really a shame. | ||
| It's so stupid. | ||
| It's so stupid. | ||
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It's another one. | |
| You know, Russia, Ukraine is so stupid. | ||
| Would have never happened if I was president. | ||
| You guys agree with that, right? | ||
| Would have never happened if I was president. | ||
| Putin would have never done it. | ||
| And I spoke to him yesterday, and I said, you know, he actually offered to help mediate. | ||
| I said, do me a favor. | ||
| Mediate your own. | ||
| Let's mediate Russia first, okay? | ||
| I said, Vladimir, let's mediate Russia first. | ||
| You can worry about this later. | ||
| But I think that's going to work out, too. | ||
| But so many people have been killed. | ||
| The big thing with that one is far more people are dead than have been reported in the Ukraine, Russia. | ||
| Many, many more people. | ||
| A building falls down. | ||
| They say nobody was hurt. | ||
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You know, it's ridiculous. | |
| What does the unconditional surrender mean? | ||
| Unconditional surrender. | ||
| Two very simple words. | ||
| Very simple. | ||
| Unconditional surrender. | ||
| That means I've had it. | ||
| Okay, I've had it. | ||
| I give up. | ||
| No more. | ||
| Then we go blow up all the nuclear stuff that's all over the place there. | ||
| No, they had bad intentions. | ||
| You know, for 40 years they've been saying death to America, death to Israel, death to anybody else that they didn't like. | ||
| They were bullies. | ||
| They were schoolyard bullies. | ||
| And now they're not bullies anymore, but we'll see what happens. | ||
| Look, nothing's finished until it's finished. | ||
| A lot of bad things can happen. | ||
| A lot of turns are made. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| I wouldn't say that we won anything yet. | ||
| I would say that we sure as hell made a lot of progress. | ||
| And we'll see. | ||
| The next week is going to be very big. | ||
| Maybe less than a week. | ||
| Maybe less. | ||
| But is there anybody here that said it would be okay to have a hostile... | ||
| very, you know, zealots really, but to have a hostile country, have a nuclear weapon that could destroy 20,000 people You know, that dust blows to other nations and they get decimated. | ||
| This is just not a threat you can have. | ||
| And we've been threatened by Iran for many years. | ||
| And if you go back and look at my history, if you go back 15 years, I was saying we cannot let I've been saying it for a long time, and I mean it more now than I've ever meant it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Mr. President, a question on deportations, Mr. President. | ||
| You said last week that changes would be coming for farmers who have seen a lot of the workers they rely on taking away. | ||
| But then DHS said this week that worksite enforcement would remain in place, that it's a cornerstone. | ||
| So what's your message to farmers? | ||
| We've got to get the bad people out of here first, and we're doing that. | ||
| We're taking them out by the thousands. | ||
| Murderers, drug dealers. | ||
| People that are mentally insane from insane asylums what they gave to us fellas they gave No, I don't think. | ||
| You've known all these people for a long time. | ||
| Any illegal immigrants in there? | ||
| If they were, they'll find out. | ||
| They'll be checking you. | ||
| You won't believe it. | ||
| Your whole life will be destroyed because of this press conference. | ||
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Watch. | |
| They'll destroy these people. | ||
| I didn't want to tell them that before this dead happened. | ||
| They'll end up being off. | ||
| This one is from you know where. | ||
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Don't worry. | |
| I think you're going to be okay. | ||
| I'll be right behind you. | ||
| Far behind you. | ||
| I'll be right behind you. | ||
| Now, look, we have to take care of our farmers. | ||
| We have to take care of people that run leisure, hotels. | ||
| I mean, we have to take care of them. | ||
| But most importantly, we have to get the criminals out of our country. | ||
| And Biden let in thousands and 11,888 murderers. | ||
| Many of them murdered more than one person. | ||
| Can you believe it? | ||
| Many, almost 50% of them murdered more than one person. | ||
| He let them into our country. | ||
| They emptied out the jails of countries from all over the world, from the Congo, from Venezuela, from all over the place. | ||
| They emptied out the jails, many of them. | ||
| I would. | ||
| If I were running one of the countries, I would have emptied out my prison population into the U.S., and many countries did. | ||
| And we're getting them out, okay? | ||
| We're getting them out. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Let's watch this. | ||
| Brian, go ahead. | ||
| Are you okay? | ||
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Can you comment on the impact of the Trump card? | |
| Yeah, we have a thing called the Trump card. | ||
| This has not been done before, I thought of. | ||
| And for $5 million, this is usually people that would either be working for companies like Apple, I think, is going to buy a lot of them, because they can't get people into the country. | ||
| You know, if you come in through the southern border, you have no problem. | ||
| You can be a criminal, you can be a drug dealer, and you have no problem. | ||
| If you go and graduate number one in your class from a great school, you can't get a job because there's no access to getting it. | ||
| You can't get a green card. | ||
| So we're going to sell that to people, in some cases wealthy, in some cases not wealthy. | ||
| They'll be paid for by universities. | ||
| Look at Harvard. | ||
| They got 53 billion dollars. | ||
| That whole thing is... | ||
| What a disgrace. | ||
| They have $53 billion. | ||
| We gave them five, six, and some people say it's as much as $9 billion over a short period of time. | ||
| So that's very much coming today. | ||
| They want to make a deal more than, I would say, Harvard wants to make a deal more than Iran wants to make a deal, and Iran wants to make a deal. | ||
| But, I mean, a lot of things, look, a lot of things are happening on a lot of fronts, Brian. | ||
| A lot of good things are happening. | ||
| And frankly, you know, it's a little bit of a, as we used to say, liberal. | ||
| Now they say progressive. | ||
| I use the word liberal. | ||
| Progressive is too nice to word because they're destroying the country. | ||
| They're really destroying these. | ||
| These liberal politicians are destroying our country. | ||
| Look what they've done during Biden's four years. | ||
| I mean, we're working on, I mean, so much of our effort goes to getting people out of the country that should have never been here in the first place. | ||
| What he's done to this country is not him. | ||
| He had no idea what was going on. | ||
| Everybody knows that. | ||
| It's other people. | ||
| It's Lisa and this one and all these people, all this scum that was around the Oval, you know, the Oval Office or around the beautiful Resolute Desk telling this guy, here, do this, do that, and not even telling him. | ||
| They'd just go over to the auto pen and sign whatever the hell they wanted to sign. | ||
| Because say what you want about Biden. | ||
| He wasn't for open borders. | ||
| He wasn't for transgender for everybody. | ||
| He wasn't for men playing in women's sports. | ||
| But he has no idea what the hell. | ||
| He has no idea. | ||
| And they were very upset. | ||
| They wanted Bernie Sanders. | ||
| And after about a week of this guy, they said, wait a minute, we just hit gold. | ||
| This guy has no clue. | ||
| He'll do anything we tell him. | ||
| And then they realized they don't even have to get permission. | ||
| They just go up to the auto pen. | ||
| That's a subversion. | ||
| That's a takeover of our government. | ||
| And you people ought to start looking at it. | ||
| That's a takeover. | ||
| Not only did they cheat. | ||
| I guess you saw yesterday came out with China and the license plates. | ||
| Tens of thousands of cards. | ||
| They used those cards to vote on the second election. | ||
| My second. | ||
| The one 2020. | ||
| Because as everybody here knows, I won that election by a lot. | ||
| But the only good thing I can say is this is a much more historic term than I think I And now we're going to put up a beautiful flagpole, and we're going to put up a flag. | ||
| And I hope you enjoy it. | ||
| And let's see how real people work. | ||
| These are real people. | ||
| You're not real people. | ||
| Your job is too easy. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
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President, how tall is the flagpole? | |
| Close to 100 feet. | ||
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You have an evening today with the Pakistani Army Chief of Staff. | |
| What are you looking forward to achieving diplomatically? | ||
| Well, I stopped the war between Pakistan. | ||
| I love Pakistan. | ||
| I think Modi is a fantastic man. | ||
| I spoke to him last night. | ||
| We're going to make a trade deal with Modi of India. | ||
| But I stopped the war between Pakistan and India. | ||
| This man was extremely influential in stopping it from the Pakistan side, Modi from the India side, and others. | ||
| And they were going at it. | ||
| And they're both nuclear countries. | ||
| I got it stopped. | ||
| I don't think I had one story. | ||
| Did I have one story written about it? | ||
| I stopped a war between two major nations, major nuclear nations. | ||
| I don't think I had a story written about it, but that's okay. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| The people know. | ||
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The people know. | |
| Did anybody write that story about the war? | ||
| Did anybody? | ||
| Did you write it? | ||
| Oh, did you write it? | ||
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Of course. | |
| You wrote it. | ||
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He's willing to ask you, he's willing to ask you to get more of it. | |
| No, no, we put it so that Marine One is very far away. | ||
| We did it in conjunction with the Air Force, with everybody, and everybody signed off on it. | ||
| We, uh, now we have to have it far away. | ||
| It's very far from Marine One's out there. | ||
| It's out in the field. | ||
| So you have to have a certain distance. | ||
| We're about three times that distance. | ||
| Thank you very much, everybody. | ||
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Can you share what you told Prime Minister Netanyahu about getting involved? | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Nothing would be more welcome in these countries, let alone in Israel, than to see the end of Iranian imperialism. | ||
| This is a bad regime and it's been bad for Arabs every bit as much as Jews. | ||
| So, Tom, let's get your take on a topic of conversation we had a short time ago. | ||
| Let's say the U.S. does go through this. | ||
| President Trump gives the go-ahead, and these bunker-buster bombs are used, and this devastation that follows for Iran. | ||
| What comes the day after? | ||
| What comes the day after in Iran, particularly for the United States, and the Colin Powell maxim of if you break it, you buy it? | ||
| What does it look like next? | ||
| Just for the record, I wrote a column February 12, 2003, called You Break It, You Own It, The Pottery Store World. | ||
| That started with me before the Iraq War. | ||
| You get credit then. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| Look, I think we can't predict, but I do believe that, first of all, what worries me is that How much information can he be getting? | ||
| He's sitting in a bunker somewhere hiding. | ||
| His entire top military and military intelligence leadership has been wiped out. | ||
| And so who knows how much he even understands about what's going on. | ||
| But that said, somebody there does. | ||
| And I do believe that if we made one last attempt at And again, I would be demanding the end of their nuclear program. | ||
| Who knows what they would answer? | ||
| Now, I think on one hand, you have to say, Kareem Sajjapur, the Iran expert at Carnegie, likes to say the Iranians are homicidal, but not suicidal. | ||
| And so I think if we did go to war with them, or take out this nuclear facility, But that's on day one, or that's the morning after. | ||
| What I'm always looking at in the Middle East, Jonathan, is the morning after the morning after. | ||
| That's when things get really interesting. | ||
| And interesting, not always in a pleasant way, does Iran begin, the regime begin to crumble? | ||
| We're talking about a country of 95 million people. | ||
| What kind of disorder flows from there? | ||
| Do you get a crazy general there who decides to sink some tankers in the Straits of Hormuz? | ||
| It's just totally unpredictable, and I wouldn't even attempt to try to say what could happen. | ||
| Right now I'm focused. | ||
| On this idea, we've developed the coercion very effectively. | ||
| Let's give one more shot at diplomacy. | ||
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Here's what we're learning. | |
| It happened just moments ago. | ||
| Iran's supreme leader addressed his nation, saying Iran will not surrender. | ||
| He also directly responded to President Trump. | ||
| Ayatollah Ali Khamenei made this threat. | ||
| Let the Americans know that the Iranian nation is not one to surrender, and any military invention on their part will undoubtedly result in irreparable damage. | ||
| His remarks coming this day after President Trump called on Tehran to surrender unconditionally. | ||
| We are totally ready to give appropriate response to any development. | ||
| We will follow the developments. | ||
| We will follow the actions of the United States. | ||
| And at any time, at any point, if we come to the conclusion that United States is directly involved in attacks against Iran, I don't know the population. | ||
| At all? | ||
| No, I don't know the population. | ||
| You don't know the population in the country you seek to topple? | ||
| How many people live in Iran? | ||
| 92 million. | ||
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Okay. | |
| How could you not know that? | ||
| I don't sit around memorizing population tables. | ||
| Well, it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the overthrow of the government. | ||
| Why is it relevant whether it's 90 million or 80 million or 100 million? | ||
| Why is that relevant? | ||
| Because if you don't know anything about the country, Okay, what's the ethnic mix of Iran? | ||
| They are Persians and predominantly Shia. | ||
| Okay, this is cute. | ||
| You don't know anything about Iran. | ||
| Okay, I am not the Tucker Carlson expert on Iran. | ||
| You're a senator who's calling for the overthrow of the government and you don't know anything about the country. | ||
| No, you don't know anything about the country. | ||
| You're the one who claims they're not trying to murder Donald Trump. | ||
| No, I'm not saying that. | ||
| You're the one who can't figure out if it was a good idea to kill General Soleimani and you said it was bad. | ||
| You don't believe they're trying to murder Trump. | ||
| Yes, I do. | ||
| Because you're not calling for military strikes against them in retaliation. | ||
| Okay, we're carrying out military strikes today. | ||
| You said Israel was. | ||
| Right. | ||
| With our help. | ||
| I said we. | ||
| Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them. | ||
| Well, you're breaking news here because the U.S. government last night denied, the National Security Council spokesman Alex Pfeiffer denied on behalf of Trump that we were acting on Israel's behalf in any offensive capacity at all. | ||
| We're not bombing them. | ||
| Israel's bombing them. | ||
| You just said we were. | ||
| We are supporting Israel. | ||
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This is high stakes. | |
| You're a senator. | ||
| If you're saying the United States government is not worth a run right now, people are listening. | ||
| This opportunity to change out this regime that has been the epicenter of global terrorism since 1979. | ||
| The president goes with it. | ||
| Talk about what the world looks like, though, with the threat of a nuclear Iran removed. | ||
| Yeah, I think, Joe, I'm among that group that believes that, you know, this is a, it's not an exact analogy, but it's a Berlin Wall kind of moment, in that this is this Iranian regime. | ||
| Is a really bad actor, not just regionally, most of all, of course, for its own people. | ||
| We're talking about a country that is an incredible civilization, you know, going back thousands of years. | ||
| The potential of the Persian nation, you know, to contribute to the region and to the world is enormous. | ||
| And that has been completely stifled. | ||
| By this regime. | ||
| I mean, and it's a tragedy for these people. | ||
| But this regime has also stifled the opportunities of Lebanon, of Syria, of Iraq. | ||
| You know, it is no accident, Joe, that people have pointed out the president of Syria today. | ||
| Syria's like one country that hasn't even given the titular, oh, you shouldn't do this, America. | ||
| Like, there are just a lot of Arabs really rooting for this bad regime to leave. | ||
| That's on the upside. | ||
| On the downside, it's a vast country. | ||
| And instability from there can really spill all over, and the transition will not be overnight. | ||
| We're not going to go from this regime to a wonderful leader. | ||
| And therefore, I say what I say in Iraq and today, if you're going to do this, this is a long road. | ||
| You want maximum legitimacy to do this. | ||
| And the maximum legitimacy is produced by going about this in a very systematic way. | ||
| Israel has generated enormous coercive power on the Iranians. | ||
| Whatever they're saying, they are really hurtful. | ||
| Let's leverage that so the whole world sees, for one last time, we're going to go to this regime and say, you need to end this program in a verifiable way right now. | ||
| And if you don't, that coercion is going to go to its final conclusion. | ||
| Let the whole world see that we are avoiding war every way we possibly can, but the world will not be a stable place if this regime is allowed to pursue this nuclear program, which is clearly not about generating electricity. | ||
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So where are they? | |
| They're nowhere. | ||
| How about China? | ||
| Nowhere. | ||
| How about Russia? | ||
| Nowhere. | ||
| What happened to World War III? | ||
| There is no World War III. | ||
| They all sound like a bunch of Marxist Islamists. | ||
| They don't sound like patriotic Americans. | ||
| Let me be clear. | ||
| This is good versus evil. | ||
| You're either a patriotic American who's going to get behind the President of the United States, the Commander-in-Chief, or you're not. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| Mega media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
| War Room. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance. | |
| War Room. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance. | ||
| Good morning, everyone. | ||
| Welcome to the War Room. | ||
| Dave Bratt sitting in for the great Stephen K. Bannon today. | ||
| He's out doing work for our great country, as only he can do. | ||
| I'm going to try to do my best to cover what Steve's been setting up. | ||
| But first off, I just usually give a reaction. | ||
| When I see Joe Scarborough, right, he's Baptist Joe Scarborough. | ||
| And believe me, religion ties into what we're going through these days. | ||
| When he's going hardcore pro-war now, he's always talking about, well, the virtues of Jesus in my Sunday school class was turning the other cheek. | ||
| So we're in a very new world. | ||
| And the day when I kind of agree with some of what Tom Friedman from the New York Times says is equally shocking. | ||
| We got very strange bedfellows going on right now. | ||
| I just want to make a few points I have not heard out there. | ||
| I, of course, am at Liberty University, but all the points I make are my own on this show. | ||
| When it comes to the Christian religion and our relationship with Israel, of course, we love Israel. | ||
| I do. | ||
| But the question is, how do you bless Israel, right, as the book of Genesis says? | ||
| bless Israel. | ||
| And when you see your friend going off course, I think we're going off course, right? | ||
| That right there is not good. | ||
| It's changed fundamentally in a week. | ||
| I think President Trump a week ago on Monday made some comments. | ||
| And the fundamental change in trajectory went from Israel taking out nuclear weapons to regime change. | ||
| And so now you have Russia weighing in last night. | ||
| Pakistan weighed in a couple days ago. | ||
| Everybody's got their eyes on the aircraft carriers coming from Taiwan. | ||
| What's China going to do? | ||
| This is no little simple operation where we're taking out, you know, nuclear weapons. | ||
| And, you know, one of our friends in the war room said, They can do the bunker buster piece, right? | ||
| The U.S. can make it easier, but he said we can do that. | ||
| And fundamentally, the religious piece here needs some consideration. | ||
| The Hebrew scripture is very clear. | ||
| Always, every time when the prophets speak for God and say you go to war in the conditions that he laid down. | ||
| And when you don't listen to that, when you don't listen to God's word, things go bad for Israel. | ||
| Similarly, if there is no word from God, which I have not heard yet, I have not heard anyone invoke the word of God here. | ||
| And so I'm waiting to hear that from our leaders, from Bibi Netanyahu. | ||
| From the religious leaders in the United States of America. | ||
| These are life and death consequences. | ||
| Last night, Iran threatened to take out our soldiers, right? | ||
| Our bases. | ||
| So the America first thing is America first. | ||
| I think we're going to pivot to President Trump for a minute here and see what he's announcing on the flagpole issue he set up earlier before the show. | ||
| He's really enjoying it. | ||
| Barron's enjoying it. | ||
| All my kids are enjoying it, actually. | ||
| It's pretty hot out here, isn't it? | ||
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What's muggier, the D.C. or West Palm Beach in the summer? | |
| I think this is muggier. | ||
| This is amazing. | ||
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Mr. President, could I ask you about the Paramount deal and the murder of China? | |
| I hope so. | ||
| Ellison's great. | ||
| They'll do a great job with it. | ||
| So what they did is they interviewed 60 Minutes. | ||
| They interviewed Kamala. | ||
| Her answer was horrendous. | ||
| I would say election-threatening. | ||
| This is the day before the election. | ||
| Her answer was election-threatening or so incompetent. | ||
| So they took the entire answer out, and they took another answer to another question. | ||
| And they did that, I understand, a number of times. | ||
| But you don't have to do it a number of times. | ||
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The main question they asked, and we caught them. | |
| And they're very embarrassed by it. | ||
| And they're working on a settlement now. | ||
| But think of it. | ||
| Did you ever hear of that one before? | ||
| They took the entire, every word, threw it out, put another answer. | ||
| Do you think they do that for me? | ||
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I think it happens daily. | |
| Well, I've never seen it. | ||
| I thought I've seen everything. | ||
| That I've never seen. | ||
| It's very embarrassing. | ||
| The head of 16 Minutes got fired. | ||
| The head of CBS got fired. | ||
| They're all getting fired. | ||
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But do you think the deal will... | |
| Only if you're in construction is exciting. | ||
| See, they have to get it perfectly straight. | ||
| And once it's perfect, then they pour in the sand, and it's there for 100 years. | ||
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Mr. President, as the Senate works on the big, beautiful bill, it seems like salt is going to be a really big issue between Senate Republicans and House Republicans. | |
| So what are you telling senators? | ||
| Because the New York Republicans on the House side are making clear that that's a red line for them. | ||
| Well, if it were a red line, then get ready for a 68% tax increase in 1929, because we're taking care of that issue, too. | ||
| You know what that is. | ||
| That's debt ceiling. | ||
| The debt ceiling, we have to move the debt. | ||
| And we don't move the debt. | ||
| You violate governance. | ||
| It's a terrible thing. | ||
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Actually, Pocahontas even agreed with me on that. | |
| She's been wanting to get rid of the debt ceiling because she said it's too violent. | ||
| It is violent. | ||
| So, I mean, anybody that votes against it, they voted to give a 58% tax increase and many other benefits. | ||
| There would be no money for the border. | ||
| Billions of dollars allocated to immigration to border, keeping criminals out, getting criminals out too. | ||
| If that doesn't pass, you'll get a 68% tax increase. | ||
| And I would say this, any senator that votes against it, I think they'll be finished in politics. | ||
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On SALT specifically, do you think Senate Republicans or House Republicans will have to bend more in order to get the bill at large? | |
| I don't know. | ||
| We're going to see how it works out. | ||
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It's a very difficult issue, to be honest with you. | |
| It's very difficult. | ||
| And I understand both sides. | ||
| But we'll just have to see. | ||
| Hopefully a compromise or something is going to be made. | ||
| But it's a very difficult issue. | ||
| But remember that, you know, people say, what do you think? | ||
| 68% tax, so all those numbers I told you, how well the economy's doing, it all gets wiped out. | ||
| You'd have the largest tax increase in history by far, by three times, if they don't get the big, beautiful deal. | ||
| I always say the great, big, beautiful deal. | ||
| I put the word "great" in there. | ||
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It's going to be great. | |
| If we get that passed, it'll be one of the greatest pieces. | ||
| And that's just the beginning of a lot of things that are going to happen. | ||
| Because we're going to get numbers down. | ||
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We're going to get them way down. | |
| But that's the beginning. | ||
| That's our big first step. | ||
| But that's the most important piece of legislation. | ||
| In terms of dollar value and everything else, there's nothing as big as that. | ||
| You know, they thought that might be seven or eight bills. | ||
| It's all in one. | ||
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Speaking of taxes, starting on July 1st, California is upping their tax on gasoline again per gallon. | |
| Congress just passed a bill ending it. | ||
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That was terrible. | |
| They were saying everybody by 2030 has to have an electric car. | ||
| I'm all for electric cars, but you have to want one. | ||
| Right now it's about 7%. | ||
| But they were forcing everybody to have it. | ||
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I ended that. | |
| And now they're coming out with more. | ||
| No, in California, you know, we've got some gas stations where just two weeks ago it was $1.98, $1.99. | ||
| We've got the gas down below. | ||
| Then we have this little situation which will drive it up a little bit, but very little. | ||
| And it's going to come down again. | ||
| It's going to give people a lot of extra money. | ||
| Groceries are down. | ||
| Eggs are down. | ||
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You know, the eggs. | |
| They hit me the first week about eggs. | ||
| But, no, I think that, look, you know what I do whenever I talk about Gavin Newsom? | ||
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I say, look at the railroad. | |
| Look at the railroad. | ||
| It's not even possible. | ||
| Do you think he comes out and sees the construction workers? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
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I don't think he put an American flag in front of the Capitol. | |
| Fake news. | ||
| Fortunately, nobody watches. | ||
| Is anybody watching CNN nowadays? | ||
| I haven't seen it in a long time. | ||
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Some of your supporters are wary of the U.S. getting involved in another foreign law. | |
| Do you ever ask a positive question at CNN? | ||
| My supporters are more in love with me today, and I'm in love with them more than they were even at election time, where we had a total landslide. | ||
| We had, you know, we won all seven swing states. | ||
| Did CNN report that? | ||
| We won all seven. | ||
| Seven out of seven, which everyone said would be almost impossible. | ||
| We won by millions of votes. | ||
| We won 2,750 districts versus 505 districts. | ||
| Think of that, 2,750 versus 505. | ||
| And CNN... | ||
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I think what she might be alluding to is the base is gonna stay with you regardless. | |
| Regardless. | ||
| But some of the people in the base don't want a long-term war. | ||
| They're afraid that we're going to get into a long-term war. | ||
| We're not looking for a long-term war. | ||
| I only want one thing. | ||
| Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| I'm not looking long-term, short-term. | ||
| And I've been saying that for 20 years. | ||
| I've been saying it as a civilian who got a lot of publicity. | ||
| People would cover it. | ||
| Very simply, Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. | ||
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That's it. | |
| It's not a question of anything else. | ||
| And if you did, you wouldn't have much of a country, because they would use it on us, and they'd use it on other people, and they'd be a terror all over the world. | ||
| So I may have some people that are a little bit unhappy now, but I have some people that are very happy, and I have people outside of the base that can't believe that this is happening. | ||
| They're so happy. | ||
| And there was a poll that just came out today that my approval rating is the highest it's ever been. | ||
| All I'm doing is saying you can't have a nuclear weapon. | ||
| And I tried to do it nicely. | ||
| And then on day 61, I said, let's go, because we can't let that happen. | ||
| And I've been saying it for 20 years. | ||
| Okay, I'm going to leave. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
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I appreciate your time. | |
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| All right, great. | ||
| President Trump adding some clarification there, much-needed clarification. | ||
| I think that is a very promising sign. | ||
| The only thing is Iran and the Ayatollahs cannot have a nuclear weapon. | ||
| We're going to go from the realm of religion, right? | ||
| No one has invoked the name of God yet. | ||
| Pay attention to that. | ||
| That matters on the theological level. | ||
| Now we go down to the strategic level. | ||
| No one better. | ||
| Then our great friend Sam Faddis, he has been breaking news over the last week. | ||
| I've been following him on our intelligence. | ||
| I won't say failures, but I'll just tee up Sam. | ||
| Sam, bring us up to speed. | ||
| What do we know? | ||
| Because major decisions concerning American lives depend on the information you're about ready to share. | ||
| Well, great to be on with you. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Look, end of March, Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence, delivered an assessment to Congress. | ||
| And the short version of that assessment was Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapons program. | ||
| And in effect, Iran hasn't had a nuclear weapons program for close to 25 years. | ||
| OK, now, again, as I said to Steve the other day, I'm not knocking Tulsi Gabbard. | ||
| That assessment is a required written product prepared by all the intelligence agencies. | ||
| It's her job as DCI to read the thing to Congress. | ||
| She's not the one out collecting that intelligence on the ground. | ||
| But the point is CIA, DIA, NSA, everybody else in the entire intelligence community, their joint product, their formal written assessment 10 weeks ago was there is not an Iranian nuclear weapons program. | ||
| Not its... | ||
| There is none, and there hasn't been since at least 2003. | ||
| Okay, so now we all of a sudden have the Israelis telling us that not only is there a nuclear weapons program, but the Iranians are on the precipice. | ||
| Potentially, it depends on which time the Israelis spoke. | ||
| So, that's about as far apart as you can get in terms of assessment that you could possibly imagine. | ||
| The Israelis are telling us they have a program, they've had a program for decades, and they're just about to the point where they actually have the weapons. | ||
| And we're saying there is no program at all. | ||
| Now, somebody's wrong, obviously. | ||
| And given the actions of the United States supporting Israel, I think it's pretty clear that we have decided that we agree with the Israelis. | ||
| In other words, we didn't respond by saying, I don't know what you guys are thinking, but you're 100% wrong. | ||
| There is no program. | ||
| knock it off. | ||
| We are Now, there's a whole issue of what exactly that means and how far we're going to get dragged down that rabbit hole. | ||
| But clearly, we have the Israelis back on this and I'm sure are providing support of various kinds to them. | ||
| So that's a pretty big issue. | ||
| If our entire, given the priority of the Iranian nuclear weapons program and the fact that it's been our policy for a really long time, That they can't have nuclear weapons. | ||
| The idea that our entire intelligence community has missed that program for decades is kind of catastrophic, right? | ||
| I mean, you need to focus on that and somebody needs to answer some questions and then not just answer some questions, but we need in a big hurry to make whatever changes. | ||
| We need to make because what it means is we're blind. | ||
| And one of the many implications of that, obviously if we're blind on this, God knows what else we're blind on. | ||
| But one of the big implications of that is if we're totally blind and the Israelis are providing this information, and I say this as a friend of Israel, then it effectively means that the Israelis are leading us around. | ||
| If we're 100% dependent on their intelligence. | ||
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| And they're driving the train. | ||
| And I'm a friend of Israel, but I'm more of a friend of the United States of America. | ||
| And we can't be in the position of having a foreign country tell us what has to be done. | ||
| Yeah, thanks for your work on this. | ||
| I intuitively share your And then, you know, everything hangs on the rabbit hole. | ||
| We're going down. | ||
| You know, in our CIA, this is nothing novel, right? | ||
| This started way back, I mean, at World War I. But CIA in 53, we knock out Mossadegh. | ||
| He's a secular, constitutional kind of guy who had it wrong on oil prices or something, as far as the U.S. is concerned. | ||
| So we knock him out, and 30 years later, we got an Islamic revolution on our hands. | ||
| And then Netanyahu's on the record saying before the Iraq war, I guarantee you, if you knock out Iraq, it's going to go just great for the USA. | ||
| And it did not go great for the USA, right? | ||
| And so the major issue is, and everybody's waiting to hit. | ||
| We all want to support Israel. | ||
| We don't want Iran to have nukes. | ||
| That's all widely agreed upon. | ||
| President Trump shares that logic. | ||
| Yoram came on the other day and said they can assure that happens. | ||
| But now the whole world looks like, and we're sending aircraft carriers, it looks like the cause's belly, the cause of war is just like it was before Iraq. | ||
| Brand new intelligence out of thin air. | ||
| They got weapons of mass destruction. | ||
| The mainstream media and all the CIA cutouts moving to position. | ||
| There's a whole new narrative. | ||
| The War Room Posse knows more than it's ever known, thanks to people like you and Bannon. | ||
| And we're all just going not so fast. | ||
| We're just not buying this. | ||
| And so surely, if you're right... | ||
| But then Israel can take it out on its own. | ||
| And so why we're shifting into language of taking out their political leaders in addition to decapitating the military leaders. | ||
| And so guide us forward, Sam. | ||
| Well, I think you have brought us to the critical question, right? | ||
| All of a sudden, and unfortunately we have seen this before in Washington, all of a sudden we've gone from talking about taking out the nuclear program. | ||
| Which in and of itself, taking it out and preventing them from reconstituting it, in other words, taking it out and really ending the issue, is a lot more complicated than most people want to understand. | ||
| But now all of a sudden we hear this verbiage, finish the job, finish the job, which apparently is code for topple the Ayatollahs. | ||
| And the way I feel about this is the way I feel about people talking about going to war in general. | ||
| It's like, okay, this is not a playground fight, man. | ||
| And hope is not a plan. | ||
| So why? | ||
| How will it be better? | ||
| I mean, do I hate the Ayatollahs? | ||
| Sure, I worked against them for decades. | ||
| I worked with a lot of very good men who were no longer with us, who died horribly, trying to get rid of this regime. | ||
| It's an abomination. | ||
| Wishing they were gone. | ||
| Doesn't constitute a plan. | ||
| How exactly do you intend to get rid of them? | ||
| And how do you know that what you're going to replace it with will be better and won't just be thugs of a different kind or different faces, but the same madness? | ||
| And we're already seeing so many things, not just that we saw in Iraq. | ||
| But we've seen many other places. | ||
| We get all these guys that pop up on the news in the United States who've been living here for 25 years in exile who assure us that they're going to return to Iran and it'll be kinder and gentler and a liberal democratic government. | ||
| Okay, and that's great. | ||
| That's a wonderful fantasy. | ||
| Do these guys actually have any following in Iran? | ||
| I mean, they're living here in comfort and they haven't been home for decades. | ||
| Does anybody in Iran actually follow them? | ||
| The other day I was reading an article about somebody explaining to me, explaining to us that we were going to lash up with the Kurdish groups inside Iran and they were going to topple the government. | ||
| OK, well, I've spent a lot of time with the Kurds fighting alongside them. | ||
| But, you know, 90 plus million Iranians. | ||
| Maybe 10% of that population is the Kurds. | ||
| So 10% of the population that lives really in one region will topple the entire government. | ||
| By the way, some of those groups are communist organizations. | ||
| Is that the plan now? | ||
| I mean, in general, what's missing here is any... | ||
| You're getting ready to take on a task that potentially leads to massive bloodshed and war, and all we're getting is a bunch of catchphrases and slogans. | ||
| That's not how this works. | ||
| On that one, Sam, I think you just put your finger on it. | ||
| And I think we do have massive intelligence on what the logic of this looks like worked out by Rand Corporation and other theorists. | ||
| And no one's mentioning Pakistan, Russia, Turkey, China, Taiwan. | ||
| There's a natural sequence of events. | ||
| And when we say we love Israel, I do love Israel. | ||
| And I do not want them to bear the brunt of the world coming up after this, whatever we do, right? | ||
| So we take out one bad guy. | ||
| Another bad guy could come in. | ||
| We have 20 million illegal aliens in this country. | ||
| Surely some of them are not friendly to President Trump. | ||
| If we go after their political leader, I do not want to think about what could happen to our president, much less his agenda. | ||
| All the secretaries under him will shift their duties immediately. | ||
| If we get into a full-spread war, every secretary. | ||
| We'll shift all resources immediately at this war. | ||
| And so can you speak a little bit about the world of RAND? | ||
| And there are many analyses out there that do not end up good, and I think that's the dominant theory. | ||
| That's why I'm bringing this up. | ||
| I think we do have analysis, and it's not pretty. | ||
| And just so folks know, like when I went out to analyze the cost of war, right, the post 9-11 war scenario has cost us over $8 trillion, according to Brown University. | ||
| They don't have any analysis of the Ukraine war. | ||
| This is all political. | ||
| And then when you go to look up at the deaths in Ukraine, the Russian deaths are 1.2 million, et cetera. | ||
| And the deaths in Ukraine are like in the tens of thousands. | ||
| That's by The Economist magazine. | ||
| So you're seeing propaganda warfare. | ||
| The only thing you're seeing is a very biting, | ||
| And so can you kind of give us a little shock and awe with what these RAND-type analyses predict if the genie gets out of the bottle big time and the U.S. ends up with troops on the ground because Israel does not have enough troops to go and fight in Iran? | ||
| Yeah, well, look, in my estimation, the idea that the United States is going to end up with ground troops on the ground inside Iran fighting to liberate that country, that's insanity. | ||
| That's madness. | ||
| People that posit that kind of thing have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. | ||
| You're talking about casualty rates that the average American can't. | ||
| We're not talking about a news report. | ||
| A couple of guys got blown up yesterday, which is horrifying enough. | ||
| You're talking about hundreds, thousands of people potentially dying every day and wound. | ||
| You're talking about casualty rates that make anything we saw in Iraq and Afghanistan look like absolutely nothing. | ||
| But, you know, I keep coming back to this, is when you're talking about war, Well, you know, it needs to be a really sober calculus. | ||
| It's not an emotion thing. | ||
| You don't throw a couple of punches, get a fat lip, and then it's all over. | ||
| You don't go down that road without being calm and cold and calculating. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Sam Fattis, thank you very much for joining us on The War Room. | ||
| These are the most serious of days, folks. | ||
| We need to all study, share the War Room platform with all your friends of all stripes so they understand what's going on in this world. | ||
| Stunningly, most Americans do not know that we are at war currently. | ||
| Stay with the War Room. | ||
| Right back with Congressman Marlon Stutzman. | ||
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| Here's your host, Stephen K. Baff. | ||
| All right, folks, back in the war room, Dave Bratt sitting in with the great Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
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| All right, I want to turn to my good friend, Congressman Marlon Stutzman. | ||
| He lives in what's called flyover country. | ||
| And he'll share that with you. | ||
| But Marlon, if you want to just comment on what you heard Sam Faddis on the war, any comments there? | ||
| And then I would love to hear your updates on what's happening with the budget, what's happening with the economy in your own hometown area. | ||
| What are you hearing? | ||
| What would a war do to that? | ||
| And thanks for being with us, Marlon. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hey, great to be with you, Dave. | ||
| Great to see you. | ||
| I was excited to be on. | ||
| The show was Steve Bannon, and then they said Dave Brasso, and I'm like, that's a second best. | ||
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| That's generous. | ||
| You too, man. | ||
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| Yeah, but no, great to be with you, and you're exactly right. | ||
| I was just actually with a group of folks here in northeast Indiana, the Fort Wayne area, where manufacturing, heart of the heartland, and agriculture are strong areas. | ||
| Of industry for us, transportation. | ||
| So coming from the heartland this morning and hearing from constituents what they're concerned about. | ||
| And obviously, a lot of the, you know, we talked a lot of economics, but also talked a lot about the unrest in the Middle East. | ||
| And there's a lot of concern. | ||
| But I tell you what, I am so grateful that President Trump is the president. | ||
| He's the strongest negotiator, the strongest diplomat that America has had since President Ronald Reagan. | ||
| And I'm thankful that he's at the wheel here dealing with the circumstances that we're facing right now. | ||
| And I trust that he's going to make the right decisions. | ||
| He's been in the business world his whole life. | ||
| He's a strong negotiator. | ||
| And I agree with the fact that we don't want to see Iran with any sort of nuclear program. | ||
| I mean, not for utilities, because we know they would use it for a bomb. | ||
| And I also support Israel doing what they believe they need to do to defend themselves. | ||
| I was in Israel a couple weeks ago and saw the concern regarding a nuclear Iran, but also saw where Hamas attacked them on the southern border while we were there. | ||
| Houthis were sending rockets in from Yemen. | ||
| And so it's a very dangerous part of the world. | ||
| And what I really believe, Dave, is we were talking about We need the Saudis. | ||
| We need the Turks. | ||
| We need other countries in that region. | ||
| Because if Iran had a nuclear weapon, it would be like them having a gun, and they could just point it at anybody they wanted and leveraging them. | ||
| And so it shouldn't be just Israel and the United States that deal with this problem. | ||
| It should also be other countries in the region and greater parts of the civilized world. | ||
| Yeah, well, I'm happy, too. | ||
| President Trump is the master negotiator. | ||
| Unfortunately, in the West, we all, and I think probably Trump does, even on business deals, assumes rationality. | ||
| And we'll see whether the religious leaders over in Iran respond. | ||
| But your point is right. | ||
| You know, we want this whole community. | ||
| Trump's got pressure to bear on tariffs and whatever. | ||
| But boy, right now, it's going to be a hard sell. | ||
| We're going in hardcore right now on Iran. | ||
| And you just heard Sam Faddis with all the cautionary notes he provided. | ||
| What are you hearing on the economy? | ||
| You know, it's kind of mixed. | ||
| President Trump's putting in all the supply side pieces. | ||
| You know, there's a lag on that to take effect. | ||
| We're still living kind of under the Biden economy. | ||
| Fiscal policy's got about a year lag on it. | ||
| And we're still two trillion deficit spending a year. | ||
| The Federal Reserve is still out of control. | ||
| They haven't pulled back their trillions on the balance sheet. | ||
| What are you hearing on the economy? | ||
| Are your folks starting to see a turn or is it still pretty flat? | ||
| There's nervousness. | ||
| There's optimism because they believe that Trump's doing the right thing by resetting the economic stage. | ||
| And of course, with us in the Midwest, we have seen a decline over the past several decades with manufacturing leaving the Midwest and going to other parts of the world, whether it's Mexico or whether it's China. | ||
| And just for a quick example, you know, agriculture, of course, is the largest industry in Indiana, but manufacturing is a close second. | ||
| I mean, we've got steel companies, automobile companies, orthopedic companies. | ||
| I mean, we can build and manufacture just about anything here. | ||
| But, you know, over time, over the last several decades, we've seen a slow decline in population because of our trade policy. | ||
| So there is an understanding and a support for President Trump. | ||
| Because there's not a good time to do this, especially coming off the heels of a Biden administration. | ||
| It was a horrible time to do it. | ||
| But when else do you do it? | ||
| And Trump's doing it. | ||
| And so you throw on top of this war. | ||
| And I guess what bothers me is that, you know, we have some people in Washington that say, you know, when this whole thing started with Israel and Iran, like, hey, game on. | ||
| Well, this is not a game. | ||
| This is something that has to be handled very delicately. | ||
| We want to make sure Israel's secure. | ||
| We want to make sure America's secure. | ||
| So Trump's got a big task in front of him, but I trust that he's the guy to do it. | ||
| Yeah, well, Marlon, you put your finger on the most important thing in the Trump agenda is bringing jobs back for Americans. | ||
| America first. | ||
| Indiana. | ||
| I grew up in Michigan and Minnesota a little bit up there in your country. | ||
| I love the people of your great state. | ||
| You're a great leader. | ||
| How do people get to you, Marlon, if they want to follow you and your agenda? | ||
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