June 17, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Most of us. | |
| Great people. | ||
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Great people. | |
| Has anyone changed any agreement since you spoke on the phone from the Oval Office? | ||
| How much? | ||
| No. | ||
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This is important. | |
| The escalation in Israel and Iran, but you are the key to unlocking that. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And here I am. | ||
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And here you are. | |
| So can I ask you, sir? | ||
| Have you spoken to Prime Minister Netanyahu? | ||
| When might you speak to him? | ||
| I spoke to everybody. | ||
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What will you say? | |
| Israel is doing very well, as you probably noticed. | ||
| And I gave Iran 60 days, and they said no. | ||
| And the 61st, you saw what happened. | ||
| Day 61. So I'm in constant touch. | ||
| And as I've been saying, I think a deal will be signed or something will happen, but a deal will be signed. | ||
| And I think Iran is foolish not to sign one. | ||
| Look, Iran should have signed the deal. | ||
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If it would help bring Iran to the negotiating table, would you guarantee that the U.S. would not get involved militarily? | |
| Well, I think this. | ||
| I think Iran basically is at the negotiating table. | ||
| They want to make a deal. | ||
| And as soon as I leave here, we're going to be doing something. | ||
| But I have to leave here. | ||
| I have this commitment. | ||
| I have a lot of commitments. | ||
| I have a commitment to a lot of countries, including the U.K., where we just signed our deal. | ||
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Are you settling on steel terms with respect to the ongoing zero? | |
| We're going to let you have that information in a little while. | ||
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On Russia, you can talk, sir, on U.S. Russia talks. | |
| When will they restart? | ||
| They're starting already. | ||
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The Press: Mr. President, do you want to apply more sanctions on Russia? | |
| Do you have to support that? | ||
| Well, Europe is saying that, but they haven't done it yet. | ||
| Let's see them do it first. | ||
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You told me earlier that you could sanction Russia. | |
| Why wait? | ||
| Why wait to sanction them? | ||
| Because I'm waiting to see whether or not a deal is signed. | ||
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And don't forget, you know, sanctions cost us a lot of money. | |
| When I sanction a country, that costs the U.S. a lot of money, a tremendous amount of money. | ||
| It's not just, let's sign a document. | ||
| You're talking about billions and billions of dollars. | ||
| Sanctions are not that easy. | ||
| It's just a one-way street. | ||
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And just a quick wait, do you think that Israel can Is that still proceeding? | |
| Do you think it's sort of working on that? | ||
| Yeah, we're proceeding with that. | ||
| It's a really important deal to both of us. | ||
| I think the president is doing a review. | ||
| We did a review when we came into government, so that makes good sense to me, but it's really important. | ||
| We're very long-time partners and allies and friends, and we've become friends in a short period of time. | ||
| He's slightly more liberal than I am, to put his mind in it. | ||
| Or we stand slightly on the left. | ||
| But for some reason we get along, we make it work. | ||
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Mr. President, did you just say you complain giving away the barbing of Israel? | |
| There's quite a few British voters who worry that he sides more with the Russians over the Ukraine war. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| You know what I said? | ||
| Saving lives. | ||
| I only care about saving lives. | ||
| We have nothing to do with it except that Biden stupidly let us get into that mess and gave him $350 billion. | ||
| $350 billion. | ||
| And yet, despite that, you saw how we did in the Middle East. | ||
| We took it $5.1 trillion. | ||
| We have $15 trillion almost, looking around that number, going to be invested in the U.S. So the money is not the thing in this case. | ||
| It's 5,000 young people are being killed every week in Russia, Ukraine. | ||
| And if I can stop that, I'll be very happy. | ||
| They're Ukrainian and they're Russian. | ||
| So you could say, what am I doing? | ||
| but I'd like to see if I could stop. | ||
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Do you think that Israel can The United States military. | |
| Who said that? | ||
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No, I'm asking if you believe they can. | |
| It's irrelevant. | ||
| Something's going to happen. | ||
| Yeah, but I think we're doing pretty well. | ||
| We're talking. | ||
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We have a thing called a telephone, so we're talking. | |
| It's always better to talk in person. | ||
| I want to see no nuclear weapon in Iran, and we're well on our way to making sure that happens. | ||
| We've had a discussion about that this morning. | ||
| There's a G7 absolute clarity in relation to the nuclear program. | ||
| We do not want to see it. | ||
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Mr. President, can you guarantee the UK will be protected from any future tariffs? | |
| The UK is very well protected. | ||
| Do you know why? | ||
| Because I like them. | ||
| That's why. | ||
| That's their ultimate protection. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| The prime minister's done a great job. | ||
| I want to just tell that to the people of the United Kingdom. | ||
| He's done a very, very good job. | ||
| You know, he's done what other people, they've been talking about this deal for six years, right? | ||
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Six years. | |
| And he's done what they haven't been able to do. | ||
| So he's done really a very good job. | ||
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What was the response to Tucker Carlson criticizing you, saying that you were complicit in the war? | |
| I don't know what Tucker Carlson is saying. | ||
| Let him go get a television network and say it so that people listen. | ||
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And quickly, have you spoken to Zelensky before your violence? | |
| Yeah, a lot of them. | ||
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Japan? | |
| A lot of them. | ||
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Could happen. | |
| How'd it go with the Japanese, sir? | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| Mega media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance. | ||
| It's Monday, 16 June, in the year of our Lord, 2025. | ||
| President of the United States showing a document right there. | ||
| They've signed the deal. | ||
| This is not an agreement to agree. | ||
| This is actually a deal with the United Kingdom, a trade deal. | ||
| President Trump and Sir Keir Starmer. | ||
| Talking it up, we'll get the details about everything. | ||
| President Trump, quite excited about that. | ||
| Took a couple of shots at our good friend Tucker Carlson we had on a day in the war, and we'll get to all that. | ||
| We're going to go to Jerusalem in a moment, Yoram Hazani, to talk about all the developments there, including a really fiery interview with Jonathan Karl of ABC News. | ||
| But I want to start in Minneapolis, the one and only Liz Collin of Alpha News. | ||
| Ma 'am, the whole world is actually focused on Minneapolis today. | ||
| Walk us through. | ||
| You found the assassin. | ||
| I guess they still call him the alleged assassin, but the assassin. | ||
| Walk us through what is going on, ma 'am. | ||
| Yeah, a lot of developments here, Steve, certainly within the last couple of days. | ||
| I know we spoke this weekend about this manhunt. | ||
| Well, that manhunt has since come to an end since we were able to speak after the horrific deaths of the highest-ranking DFL member of the House, Melissa Hortman, and her husband, Mark. | ||
| They were killed, assassinated. | ||
| By Vance Bolter, who is now charged for their deaths and also the horrific attacks that took place at Senator Hoffman's home. | ||
| He was shot multiple times along with his wife. | ||
| So this man, Bolter, went ahead and he was impersonating a law enforcement officer when he went to these homes very early on Saturday morning. | ||
| So they unveiled at this press conference that took place just a couple of hours ago here. | ||
| In downtown Minneapolis, they showed pictures of what they recovered from his vehicles that morning, including five different firearms, cash. | ||
| They first described this as a manifesto, but you're right, Steve, it was really more of a hit list. | ||
| Sixty members, past, present. | ||
| Some actually had been deceased. | ||
| Democrats were on that list. | ||
| Also a Planned Parenthood location and some other locations there as well. | ||
| We obtained this list through law enforcement sources and went ahead and released it after Bolter's capture. | ||
| Just late last night, it was about 9.30 central time that he was spotted, well, finally— was arrested in a cornfield, basically very close to his residence in Green Isle, Minnesota. | ||
| There was a large manhunt, and they took him into custody. | ||
| He ended up raising his hands in the air, walking toward a bearcat, a SWAT vehicle, and surrendering. | ||
| And he identified himself right away as Vance Bolter, putting an end to this nearly 48-hour manhunt, the largest manhunt in Minnesota state history, Steve. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Do we have any idea, since there's not a manifesto, we understand he spied on people or these things were pretty planned. | ||
| Do we have any idea of why he decided to go assassinate some elected officials, ma 'am, and stalked or at least looked like he had plans to assassinate others? | ||
| Yeah, Acting U.S. Attorney Joe Thompson took quite a few questions from reporters at this press conference, but specifically he said, you know, responding to reports of this manifesto written by Bolter, Thompson said he'd not seen anything like a Unabomber-style manifesto in his writings. | ||
| It sounds like they recovered some writings not only from his vehicle, but from his residence in Green Isle as well, so they're sifting through all of that. | ||
| Nothing that seems to make any sense. | ||
| The specific list that we've obtained at Alpha News does have this list of about 60 Democrats on it and then some Planned Parenthood locations. | ||
| It does seem that the paperwork suggests that he was in some sort of financial straits when all of this had been going on. | ||
| He was renting a room in Minneapolis where he would stay for the last two or three years just a couple of times a week. | ||
| And some neighbors I spoke with there said it was very odd. | ||
| He seemed to be dressing as a detective a lot. | ||
| And today we kind of connected some of those dots. | ||
| They were saying that he was surveilling a lot of these people. | ||
| He had a lot of ramblings and writings in regards to certain lawmakers. | ||
| And I expect that we'll probably get more on all of that connected to this court case. | ||
| But they're not even ruling out the death penalty at this point. | ||
| He today... | ||
| So still a lot more questions than answers in Minnesota here, I think. | ||
| Steve? | ||
| Last thing that we had a controversy on Saturday when we were on the show that they had swept all the social media that turns out there's some news items out there that Waltz had some social media posts they've been taken down. | ||
| She just gives up to speed on the social media and the relationship with Governor. | ||
| He sat on this workforce board. | ||
| He was appointed first by Governor Mark Dayton to sit on this board and then was reappointed by Governor Walz. | ||
| Many people sit on them. | ||
| Governor Walz has since come out and it sounds like told the Minnesota Star Tribune that he wasn't aware of who he was. | ||
| We were actually seeing his social media, Vance Bolter's social media, sort of disappear in real time on Saturday morning. | ||
| And this is actually after they were releasing his picture, because somehow after these horrific acts, he was able to get to a bank on Saturday morning at about 9 a.m. | ||
| And this is where you see the picture of him in his cowboy hat. | ||
| They released that to the media, but his Facebook was taken down, some other social media. | ||
| He was affiliated with a security company. | ||
| That website was removed. | ||
| So, yeah, as far as that connection, that's what we know at this point. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| You're the axe in this space leading this story more than any other news source in the world. | ||
| So where do people go? | ||
| AlphaNews.org is the website. | ||
| You'll find us AlphaNewsMN on X and I'm at Liz Collin on X. Sadly, I wish we just didn't have so much happening here in Minnesota, Steve, but appreciate you having me on. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| Great reporting, Liz. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| If you haven't downloaded Alpha News, make sure you do it. | ||
| Any news coming out of Minnesota, Liz, who's a veteran of local Minnesota news for decades, is always ahead of the curve. | ||
| I've got a cold open compiled of an interview that Prime Minister Net now who gave to Jonathan Karl and then a couple of clips of Tucker Carlson and then my dear friend and colleague Yoram Hazani will join us. | ||
| Let's go ahead and do the cold open. | ||
| It's Tel Aviv. | ||
| Tomorrow it's New York. | ||
| Look, I understand America first. | ||
| I don't understand America dead. | ||
| That's what these people want. | ||
| They chant death to America. | ||
| So we're doing something that is in the service of mankind, of humanity. | ||
| And it's a battle of good against evil. | ||
| America does, should and does stand with the good. | ||
| That's what President Trump is doing. | ||
| And I deeply appreciate his support. | ||
| John Carl joins me now. | ||
| So, John. | ||
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What else did he say about President Trump and how he wants the U.S. to play a role here? | |
| Or did he? | ||
| Well, look, he praised President Trump over and over again in this interview. | ||
| He knows that he needs the United States support, at least in terms of doing what the U.S. is doing now, which is helping Israel defend itself from those retaliatory attacks from Iran. | ||
| So it was all couched in a thank you, President Trump. | ||
| Israel's best friend, but he made it clear that he would like to see more. | ||
| He didn't come out and directly say it in those ways, but what you heard, what you played right there, I understand America first. | ||
| I don't understand America dead. | ||
| He is really... | ||
| really speaking to those in the Trump movement, those in the MAGA movement who are adamantly opposed to the United States getting involved in another Middle East conflict. | ||
| And as you know, Kira, there are some prominent voices, supporters, outside advisors of Donald Trump who are saying, The United States can't be involved. | ||
| You campaigned against forever wars. | ||
| People like Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, Charlie Kirk, those are close supporters of Donald Trump who are saying that they don't think the United States should be involved in this. | ||
| And Netanyahu, it seemed to me, by using their language, I understand America first, I don't understand America dead, was speaking directly to Donald Trump. | ||
| And to his supporters who are critical of what Israel is doing. | ||
| I actually really love Trump. | ||
| I think he's a deeply humane, kind person. | ||
| And I am saying this because I'm really afraid that my country's gonna be Other nations would like to see that, and this is a perfect way to scuttle the USS America on the shoals of Iran. | ||
| But it's also going to end, I believe, Trump's presidency and effectively end it. | ||
| And so that's why I'm saying this. | ||
| What do you mean by that? | ||
| That's coming from you. | ||
| Look, I knew Bush. | ||
| I knew George W. Bush. | ||
| We had family connections to Bush. | ||
| I knew Bush. | ||
| Personally, I still see Bush sometimes. | ||
| You know, of course, he hates me, and he does because I criticized him on Iraq, and that war is the sum total from historical perspective of his administration. | ||
| But I knew him, and he had all kinds of plans for the things that he wanted to do. | ||
| Domestically. | ||
| domestically to improve the country. | ||
| And you may agree or disagree, but like in his mind, he wasn't just a bad guy. | ||
| Oh, no, no. | ||
| He was going to redo Social Security. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| He was going to take care of the entitlements issue. | ||
| And he really thought it was going to work. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And you could laugh at that or whatever, but the point is, the second you get enmeshed in a real war, not a fake, let's go bomb the villagers and declare success, we don't even have a good track record. | ||
| Like, why are the Houthis still there? | ||
| I mean, there's a whole other question, which is how prepared is the U.S. military for a real conflict? | ||
| And the answer is totally unprepared. | ||
| Scary, unprepared. | ||
| I don't think people understand that. | ||
| But anyway, the only reason I'm saying any of this is because I really, really care. | ||
| Yoram Hazani joins us now from Jerusalem. | ||
| Yoram, thank you. | ||
| Particularly, it's the middle of the night there. | ||
| You're one of the leading experts in the world on nationalism, wrote the definitive one of the great books on it. | ||
| Walk me through. | ||
| Where do we stand right now? | ||
| What is this all about? | ||
| And before we get to the... | ||
| to the BB interview and to Tucker. | ||
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He's not there? | |
| He's muted on his end. | ||
| Yarm, you got to unmute yourself. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Hear me? | ||
| Yes, we hear you now, sir. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, we are reaching the climax of a campaign that began on October 7th, 2023. | ||
| Everybody remembers the days after the surprise attack from Gaza. | ||
| Prime Minister Netanyahu, his chief of staff, his defense minister, stood before the Israeli people night after night and before the world. | ||
| And they promised That this was going to be a long war. | ||
| They promised that the war was not going to end in Gaza or in Lebanon or in Yemen, but that it was going to once and for all reach Iran. | ||
| Now, you have to understand that many people in the United States, younger people, are waking up just the last couple of months or the last few years, waking up to realize That there's been this long-standing warfare between Israel and Iran. | ||
| Many people don't realize how long this has been going or how deeply felt it is. | ||
| in the State of Israel across the political spectrum, left and right. | ||
| For the last 20 years, Iran has been considered to be the number one threat to the State of Israel and to the Jewish people. | ||
| The reason for this is, This is something that they say on a daily basis. | ||
| They chant it in their parliament. | ||
| And the goal of putting nuclear weapons and missile systems, ballistic missile systems, capable of delivering those weapons together, So this is a very old story. | ||
| The first time that an American administration prevented Netanyahu and his cabinet from attacking the Iranian nuclear program was in 2010. | ||
| And there have been repeated incidents of this kind since then. | ||
| The state of Israel cannot live with a nuclear-armed Iran, and that's a wall-to-wall consensus. | ||
| So this is finally coming to a head. | ||
| And I have to say, just about President Trump, there have been a series of American presidents who have not allowed Israel to pursue this course. | ||
| And they've kicked the can down the road. | ||
| They've assumed that... | ||
| President Trump is the first U.S. president who has allowed the state of Israel to pursue its necessary actions for its own defense by seeking the Once and for all, the elimination of the Iranian nuclear program. | ||
| But his goal was to do it by negotiations, right? | ||
| And, you know, Bibi comes on Fox News on Sunday and basically lets the cat out of the bag. | ||
| Last week we were told it had to happen in 24 hours. | ||
| It had to happen on Thursday and Friday. | ||
| It had to happen. | ||
| That was the date because things are going to happen. | ||
| They've got bombs. | ||
| They've got ballistic missiles. | ||
| They got nuclear bombs. | ||
| BB then says on Sunday night And no U.S. government official has ever countered that. | ||
| Bibi says, well, they've done some things, we've got some intelligence, and it would be, you know, they would have a bomb in 12 to 13 months, which is a mantra we've heard before. | ||
| So why was it? | ||
| And about President Trump pursuing the course, the course he wanted was in negotiated deals. | ||
| He just said right there, I'm talking to these guys, I'm on the phone, I want to negotiate a deal. | ||
| Why all of a sudden we have to go with where we have 12 to 13 months? | ||
| Steve, you and I both remember President Trump in his first speeches laying out this policy. | ||
| He was already saying it last December and January and February when he came into the administration. | ||
| President Trump, as far as I'm aware, has not budged an inch. | ||
| Not an inch. | ||
| His policy, he must have said this a hundred times, his policy was Iran cannot get a nuclear bomb. | ||
| If we can get it by negotiation, that's what we're going to do. | ||
| And if we can't get it by negotiation, then we're going to have to do it some other way. | ||
| We've all heard him say this over and over again. | ||
| And I don't know that there is some kind of a difficulty. | ||
| I think you feel this as much as I do, that the last few months have been kind of crazy on the MAGA right, like in terms of the things people are accusing one another of and saying. | ||
| But I think that any kind of a cold look at this would understand President Trump. | ||
| Let me be blunt. | ||
| Let me be blunt. | ||
| I totally disagree. | ||
| Don't spin this into MAGA. | ||
| What's been a problem is the really... | ||
| We back Israel more than anybody. | ||
| And the question still is, why did it have to go Thursday and Friday night? | ||
| And now we know it's regime change. | ||
| The problem the MAGA right has with this, it looks like a crass political move by Bibi Netanyahu, who is vastly unpopular in Israel. | ||
| I think his popularity is 30%. | ||
| He has a problem with his coalition together, and this was a blatant political move to try to save himself politically. | ||
| If he has to throw the region into a shooting war and needs the United States to come in, then he'll do it, sir. | ||
| Look, Steve, part of what's difficult, you've known me for a while. | ||
| NatCon is my movement. | ||
| MAGA is my movement. | ||
| I'm a nationalist conservative. | ||
| I'm not one of these people who is out there pounding the pavement for America to be involved in this war or in any war. | ||
| But I do think that over the last few months, there's been a change in the sources of information that people are using on the right in order to discuss the Middle East. | ||
| I don't fully understand it, but I do know that at least... | ||
| And reading Haaretz is literally reading the Israeli communists. | ||
| And the distortions that you get from information, if that's the sources of information, are problematic. | ||
| So let's take this example that Tucker brought up the supposed 30% popularity rating of Bibi Netanyahu. | ||
| So I heard that this evening, and I went and I checked it. | ||
| And the most recent polls put Bibi Netanyahu at 54%. | ||
| And he's 30 points ahead of Naftali Bennett, who is the number two contender for the prime ministership. | ||
| 30 points spread. | ||
| And by the way, if you go back a month or two and take a look at the same poll before the war, you'll see that it was almost exactly the same. | ||
| Nobody, anywhere near Bibi Netanyahu in terms of popularity as far as appropriateness to be the Prime Minister of the State of Israel for years. | ||
| And so, look, we have to get back to the point where all of us NatCon, nationalists, We have different views on different things. | ||
| But we've got to get back to the point where we're having a reasonable conversation where the information that we're using is information that's based on facts. | ||
| That's unfortunately not what's happening the last couple of months. | ||
| What is the facts? | ||
| This was put forward that it had to happen last Thursday and Friday, right? | ||
| There's something come up that it had to go. | ||
| This is why... | ||
| This intelligence was shared. | ||
| And did he not say on Bret Baier that this would come to fruition, a potential bomb with a ballistic missile, 12 to 13 months from now? | ||
| There's just this huge disconnect. | ||
| There's a huge disconnect between what's being said one time and then kind of a reverse course. | ||
| I didn't hear the Brett Barrett interview. | ||
| And I also don't think that it's... | ||
| I don't know what happened in the particular meeting that we're talking about, and I don't know how the decision was made. | ||
| But I do know something that I think, to my mind, is much more important. | ||
| Which is that 75% of Israelis support this war. | ||
| That's as of last night. | ||
| The reason that 75% of Israelis support this war is because for 20 years we've been living with the threat of the development of nuclear weapons by the Iranian regime. | ||
| For the Israeli public, the Israeli public doesn't know. | ||
| And frankly, doesn't care whether the breakout was supposed to be in four or five days or in four or five weeks or in four or five months. | ||
| What nobody argues about at all is that the Iranians want a nuclear weapon, that they're working on building it as hard as they could for all of these years. | ||
| And for Israelis, that's an existential threat. | ||
| Now, it may be that there are people in the United States who, at this point, are They've been reading Haaretz and they don't remember that just a few months ago it was a matter of consensus between nationalist conservatives, you know, America, Europe, India, Israel. | ||
| Everybody knew that Iran was seeking to become the hegemon, the dominant player in the Middle East. | ||
| That it was supplying proxy terrorist organizations and that it was seeking a nuclear weapon. | ||
| There wasn't any kind of secret about this. | ||
| This has been discussed for 15 years openly. | ||
| So if Netanyahu made a decision that it was now or never, because Trump had said, Trump said that the Iranians had 60 days to come to a deal. | ||
| After 61, something terrible was going to happen. | ||
| If you get to day 61, it's entirely possible that Netanyahu says, and his cabinet, they say, look, it's now or never. | ||
| We don't have another opportunity. | ||
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So as far as I'm concerned, Hang on. | |
| We're just going to hold you to a commercial break. | ||
| Yuram Hazani joins us from Jerusalem. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Back in. | ||
| So Yoram, tell me, is it Haaretz? | ||
| Haaretz? | ||
| Why is that a suboptimal news source? | ||
| Haaretz? | ||
| Haaretz represents the leftmost 5% of the Jewish population in the state of Israel. | ||
| It's a newspaper with a very small circulation. | ||
| It has a great deal of prestige because it's read by our lefty elite classes. | ||
| But look into it. | ||
| Not only is historically Haaretz a newspaper that opposed the establishment of the State of Israel, the Shokin family that founded it. | ||
| Anti-Zionists, they were against the establishment of the State of Israel. | ||
| It is a newspaper that has, over the years, fought tooth and nail for what we in Israel call post-Zionism, for the elimination of the Jewish character of the state, for the elimination of the right of return to Jews to the State of Israel, and on political issues, like I say. | ||
| Something on the order of up to half of their writers and editors are members of the Israel Communist Party. | ||
| you're reading party line when you're reading Haaretz. | ||
| It makes no sense that any conservative of any kind, nationalist, traditionalist, Christian, Jewish, Anybody with any kind of a feeling for the Jewish and Christian inheritance of the West would soak their brain daily in a propaganda sheet of that kind. | ||
| I mean, imagine somebody from another country coming to the United States and saying, yeah, I read the... | ||
| That's not a fair analogy because the New York Times is far to the right of Haaretz. | ||
| But if somebody said to you, I know America because I read the New York Times every day, you'd say, come on, give me a break. | ||
| What's wrong with you? | ||
| Haaretz is far, far to the left and always has been of the New York Times. | ||
| Haaretz teaches the New York Times how to be leftist. | ||
| I know you've got to bounce in the middle of the night and we've got Sam Fettis and a bunch of people. | ||
| The MAGA right, I think a lot of people would say, hey, we have no problem at all. | ||
| Israel's a nation. | ||
| It's got its sovereignty. | ||
| Whatever it's got to do, obviously, and they have this war right now against the Muslim Brotherhood in Gaza. | ||
| If they feel that they're threatened immediately with some sort of breakout and their intelligence tells them that, that they have no problem with Israel doing what a sovereign nation can do, the issue is that that is predicated upon At least air defense by the United States and now tremendous pressure on President Trump to actually go on to air offensive sorties, combat sorties. | ||
| The Nimitz battle group is en route from the South China Sea. | ||
| We're forward deploying a bunch of tanker, you know, refueling assets, air refueling assets. | ||
| What is your response to people say, hey, look, whatever you guys do. | ||
| Go do it. | ||
| Just like in Gaza, we said, hey, if you've got to go through hell, go through as quickly as possible. | ||
| What's your answer to people? | ||
| But we want absolutely no involvement with it, sir. | ||
| My first answer is, like I said before, is gratitude. | ||
| Thank God that we have President Trump instead of a President Biden or Obama who is allowing Israel to take care of very basic security needs that for decades have been put off. | ||
| With regard to American involvement, I'm aware, as you are, that lots of people are saying lots of different things. | ||
| I would like to repeat the official position of the Israeli government. | ||
| I'll quote two people who are old friends, Giron Saar, the foreign minister, and Tzahi Anegbi, the national security advisor, both people I've known for many years, and they're good men. | ||
| And in the last couple of days, they've said clearly and repeatedly, this operation was designed to be blue and white. | ||
| That's how Hanegbi put it. | ||
| It's designed to be an operation that Israel can pull off by itself. | ||
| Anybody who's following this a little bit understands that there are some things that would be easier for the Americans to do than for the Israelis. | ||
| But that doesn't mean that the Americans have to do it. | ||
| It doesn't mean that they have any kind of obligation. | ||
| Israel believes, and before I got on this evening, I called in a military officer friend of mine, just to make sure that I'm updated on what people are thinking. | ||
| What people are thinking is, take that underground nuclear facility in Fardau, which is the subject that everybody's been talking about, that it's a deep underground, and there's no way that Israel can do it, and the Israelis know that the Americans are going to have to do it. | ||
| Look, obviously the B2 can take it out better than Israel can, but that's entirely not the point. | ||
| What's going to happen if Americans say, no, we're not going to do it? | ||
| Israel's going to go after it. | ||
| And I went through a number of scenarios with them. | ||
| I don't think it makes sense to detail them here, but let's just say there are aerial scenarios where Israel has techniques that it believes it can use to get through, to get to the bottom of that mountain and eliminate that nuclear base. | ||
| There are all sorts of scenarios that involve ground forces, and I won't go into this further. | ||
| Israel has the ability To take out every single facility that we need to take out. | ||
| The only question is how risky, how hard is it going to be? | ||
| And as I told you in the break, nobody has ever heard me calling for American troops to be sent not into Iraq and not into Afghanistan, not into Serbia. | ||
| Never. | ||
| I've never called for any of these. | ||
| I'm a tremendous skeptic, just like you are. | ||
| But Israel, as you say, Israel has things that it's got to do. | ||
| And America needs to make its own decisions. | ||
| It's a sovereign country. | ||
| I completely understand my MAGA friends who don't want to get involved in another Middle Eastern war. | ||
| 100% understand it. | ||
| It's going to make it a little bit harder for Israel, but the Israelis are ready to do it. | ||
| It's our war. | ||
| We know what we need to do. | ||
| Everybody agrees on what we need to do. | ||
| And I think that we also have what we need to be able to do, even if it'll be a little bit harder to do it our way. | ||
| Yoram, where do people get your writings? | ||
| Where do they keep up with you on social media? | ||
| You can follow me on Twitter, at Y-H-A-Z-O-N-Y. | ||
| Please take a look at the new second edition of The Virtue of Nationalism, which I think will have a lot to say, will speak to a lot of your viewers. | ||
| By the way, it's a must-read. | ||
| Foundational text in the nationalist movement. | ||
| Yoram, thank you so much for staying up in the middle of the night in Jerusalem. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| Bye. | ||
| Sam Faddis, we always call on. | ||
| Sam, you got a piece on Substack that got my attention. | ||
| And help me out here, brother. | ||
| Tulsi Gabbard is, because this gets down as a very confusing situation. | ||
| You see, even with Yoram, we don't agree on certain basic facts, but that's okay. | ||
| About the intel here. | ||
| Tulsi Gabbard testified, I think, on 25 March that there was no program, they had reinitiated a program, and that was kind of the official intelligence party line of the Trump administration. | ||
| You're saying there's been a breakdown of intelligence in your Substack piece, which is quite brilliant. | ||
| You're saying your money right now is on Israelis. | ||
| Can you walk us through what the breakdown you think is, and why do you think their intelligence may be better than ours? | ||
| Well, yeah, I mean, let's start with this. | ||
| Up front, you know, I'm not trashing Tulsi Gabbard, who I don't know. | ||
| She's the DCI. | ||
| She's the head of the intelligence community. | ||
| But what's she doing? | ||
| She's presenting to Congress an official report that is a joint product of all the intelligence agencies. | ||
| So she's reading a document that was written for her. | ||
| But this is CIA, DIA, NSA, everybody in the world comes together and she delivers this presentation the end of March. | ||
| It's a required product. | ||
| And it says there is no Iranian nuclear weapons program. | ||
| In effect, short version, there hasn't been one since 2003. | ||
| So that's what? | ||
| That's two and a half months ago. | ||
| And now we have the Israelis bomb and everything. | ||
| In Iran, in the Israeli line, is not just is there a nuclear weapons program, but there has been a nuclear weapons program. | ||
| And it's really close to fruition. | ||
| Now, I take your point that their definition of how close it is to fruition seems to have danced around recently. | ||
| But even taking that into account, it'd be pretty hard to imagine two conclusions that are more diametrically opposed. | ||
| I mean, we're saying as an intel community. | ||
| The other is that, and this is where it came out of nowhere. | ||
| Like on Thursday, it may have been rumored and people have been talking. | ||
| I know there's been meetings in the White House and others, but all of a sudden Thursday night we're going for an early Friday morning bombing because something's happening this weekend. | ||
| So how do we have that? | ||
| I mean, how can those both be absorbed by decision-makers at the National Security Council and people that are advising the president on matters of war and peace? | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean, that's the question, right? | ||
| I mean, we were just told they don't have a program. | ||
| Not just they're further away from it than the Israelis claim. | ||
| They don't have a program. | ||
| And in effect, our assessment was they haven't had a program since 2003. | ||
| Now the Israelis are saying, we've got to bomb the hell out of them right now because they're about to pop one off and have an active arsenal. | ||
| Again, pretty hard to imagine two more diametrically opposed assessments. | ||
| Now, based on the totality of what I know and my experience, I unfortunately think the Israelis are closer to the truth, but maybe more to the point. | ||
| It seems pretty clear that even though our intelligence We didn't respond to this by saying, you guys are a bunch of crazy people. | ||
| What the heck are you bombing? | ||
| There is no program. | ||
| And as you noted, you know, there's been all sorts of reports that we're moving aerial refueling assets by the dozens in 2020. | ||
| But all of that suggests that we think the Israelis are a heck of a lot closer to the truth than we are. | ||
| And frankly, it scares the hell out of me. | ||
| Because intelligence is power, right? | ||
| If we're relying upon the Israelis... | ||
| And we don't have a clue. | ||
| And we're effectively held hostage to them. | ||
| And look, I've worked with the Israelis. | ||
| They're allies. | ||
| I support the state of Israel. | ||
| But I support the United States more. | ||
| And we shouldn't be in a position of basically being blind. | ||
| And having to trust that the Israelis are telling us the truth all the time and that we can rely upon them. | ||
| We should also keep in mind, by the way, they are human too. | ||
| They're not 10 feet tall. | ||
| They somehow managed to miss a Hamas offensive that was put together on the other side of a wall right next to their country. | ||
| So it would be a really good idea if we had our own intelligence and we didn't have to just have them tell us what's going on. | ||
| Real quickly, we've got about a minute. | ||
| I know your other thing you do in your spare moment, you're one of the leaders of the MAGA, America First, patriot movement in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. | ||
| When B.B. Netanyahu tells Jonathan Karl at ABC News, this is not about America First, this is about America Dead, give me 30 seconds. | ||
| How does that sit with you, Sam Faddis? | ||
| Yeah, it doesn't sit well, man. | ||
| We don't need a foreign leader telling us. | ||
| When we get to stand up for ourselves, and I live in a part of the country that has given a lot of blood over the last 20 years to foreign wars. | ||
| So we're prepared to fight, but we would really like to know why we're fighting and what are we fighting for. | ||
| Sam Faddis, where do people go get your amazing analysis, sir? | ||
| And Magazine at Substack, so andmagazine.substack.com. | ||
| Sam Faddis, you're a patriot and a hero, sir. | ||
| Thank you for joining us today. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Natalie Winters on the other side. | ||
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| Natalie, the Rumble chat nominated you to come forward. | ||
| You have one or two things you would like to make as observations to my friend and colleague Yoram in Jerusalem. | ||
| Your thoughts, ma 'am? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Well, first and foremost, you and Tucker this morning, that was absolutely wonderful programming. | ||
| I've watched it so many times. | ||
| But I would like to, I think, respectfully push back on what Yoram Hazoni was trying to pitch to our audience. | ||
| I think, frankly, you lose the argument when your first line of attack is sort of in line with the left wing's idea that the sourcing of your information, whether it's misinformation or disinformation or it's just some, you know, far left news outlet, that that's why Americans are so misguided on this sort of Iranian, I think, which has become a flashpoint for what is a broader discussion about where our priorities, whether it's financial or otherwise or other regions when it comes down to Israel and the Middle East. | ||
| Frankly, I think what is going on with Israel, it's not rooted in misinformation or some far left Israeli narrative being spun. | ||
| What you're talking about right now is President Trump having the opportunity and the ability to, I think, really push through the kinetic codification of what he has done in terms of burden sharing. | ||
| And the idea of getting European countries, whether it's to pay their fair share via NATO, to actually pitch into defense with Ukraine, to actually have these countries follow through on... | ||
| like you've been alluding to, Tulsi Gabbard, talking about sort of the weird, struck up out of nowhere idea that now suddenly we've hit the point of no return when it comes to Iranian nuclear capabilities. | ||
| But what is I think so different is that this And Yoram Hazzoni, who's done wonderful work through NatCon, but he is Israeli. | ||
| And I don't say that pejoratively. | ||
| It's a matter of fact. | ||
| And what he thinks America's response should be through the paradigm of what suits Israel is going to be different from what you and I think because we're American. | ||
| The core idea of what it means to be a member of the MAGA movement, right? | ||
| That your citizenship means something. | ||
| It's why we're so opposed to H-1B visas. | ||
| And to link this to the story that I know you want to get into, talking about who's been funding a lot of these left-wing protesters and rioters in L.A., particularly one group, the Immigrant Legal Resource Center. | ||
| we can toss the picture up on screen right this is a group that now when we Hang on one second. | ||
| I think that was tremendous in the rumble chat. | ||
| I appreciate you being the stepping forward. | ||
| What we should be focused on, as I said with Tucker today, and I said when I did Tucker's podcast, which should be up in a while, is that of all these things we're working on, the main battlefront here is our sovereignty, citizenship, sealing the border, and mass deportations of these illegal alien invaders. | ||
| And you're seeing this fight all across. | ||
| The next three people, and I've been saying we need to pivot away from this, because part of this whole thing with Iran, Our pressure is to distract us, is to get us off this. | ||
| And so I've got you, I've got John Lott has an amazing story, and Steve Cortez has some incredible polling that he and his organization have done. | ||
| So as a piece, I want to go through this. | ||
| I want to start, we've got a couple minutes here, I'm going to hold you through the break. | ||
| The finance, we have a war we have to win. | ||
| Stephen Miller says this, in the streets of Los Angeles, and President Trump last night, as you said, as you know, Natalie, Double and triple down. | ||
| Say we're going to increase the ice raids in these big sanctuary city centers. | ||
| We're not going to stop and we're going to be quite public about it. | ||
| There is a counter-narrative of who's actually financing this and funding this. | ||
| Take it away because I think people are going to be shocked about who's actually... | ||
| Who's actually a Guinness, ma 'am? | ||
| Well, I think your use of the word war, that's sort of where I was going. | ||
| We are letting the same people who are funding these left-wing NGOs, the groups that orchestrated the invasion of the southern border, now determine, again, people who don't believe in sovereignty, don't believe in borders, tell us. | ||
| That we should be at war and that Iran is our new enemy and that we need to just blindly support escalation into kinetic conflict in that region. | ||
| And I think in the same way that all of these, whether it's the left-wing sort of NGO groups that have been funding, whether it's groups like the Immigrant Legal Resource Center, all the far-left groups, the Tides Foundation, the Tides Center, the Open Society Foundations. | ||
| Those people don't care about sovereignty, and now all of a sudden they're the same people who are funding the experts that are saying that the United States somehow to defend Israeli sovereignty needs to get dragged into another conflict in the Middle East. | ||
| I mean, I'm old enough to remember when, what was it, the Biden regime over at the Pentagon was busy ramming through Iranian spies, and then once they were outed, they were busy working overtime to ensure that they could keep their clearances. | ||
| So all of these people who are making up the rules of what kinetic conflict looks like, It's not rooted in defending the nation-state. | ||
| It's about profit. | ||
| It's about power. | ||
| Case in point, what Iran has done, read the nuclear program, I'd like to introduce them to the Chinese Communist Party, which they're all in business with. | ||
| They have no problem taking money from them, right? | ||
| It's totally hypocritical. | ||
| And by the way, the PRC is far more advanced in that realm. | ||
| They effectively own Iranian airspace. | ||
| We want to talk about what would happen if we actually got involved in a shooting war there and shot down a Chinese plane? | ||
| These people don't care. | ||
| They should be focusing on the rare earths. | ||
| They should be focusing on the actual economic warfare, infiltration, not invasion. | ||
| But these people don't care. | ||
| The same people who orchestrated the invasion at the southern border now want your children and grandchildren to die in battlefields abroad and battlefields galore in the name of It's reductive, but it's disgusting and it's tired, and I wish these people would stop shilling and pushing these narratives that are just insulting to my intelligence and to our audience's intelligence. | ||
| Natalie, stick around. | ||
| We've got Natalie Winters, John Lott about what deportations are doing to murder rates throughout the country. | ||
| You're going to be quite surprised. | ||
| Steve Cortez with amazing polling. | ||
| Also, we're going to talk to one of the world's top experts on my favorite topic, artificial intelligence. | ||
| Joe Allen will drop by two. | ||
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