June 12, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| Everything was peaceful in the city of Los Angeles and in all of the representatives behind me in their cities as well. | ||
| Things began to be difficult on Friday when raids took place and it's important that I begin there because that is the cause of the problems that have happened in the city of Los Angeles and other cities. | ||
| This was provoked. | ||
| By the White House? | ||
| The reason why? | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| The basic maneuver element of that is a Marine rifle squad. | ||
| The mission of a Marine rifle squad is to locate, close with, and destroy the enemy by fire and maneuver. | ||
| Or to repel the enemy's assault by fire and close combat. | ||
| Every infantry Marine has that committed to memory. | ||
| Because the missions that you're generally sent on when they send in the Marines are Fallujah. | ||
| Where I served. | ||
| Or Afghanistan, Helmand Province. | ||
| Or you think of all the times over the years, and I'll give you a great example, Bellowood. | ||
| The Marines were sent in during World War II to protect Paris from the advancing Germans. | ||
| They successfully did that. | ||
| They were given the title by the German officers, Tufelhundens, because the German officers thought the gates of hell opened up and the hounds of hell, the Tufelhunden, Charged at them. | ||
| You are putting the Marine Corps in an impossible situation. | ||
| Now, I have all the confidence in the world in Marine Corps officers, staff non-commissioned officers, NCOs, and down to the entry-level Marine, because their professionalism is without question. | ||
| I just don't want them in a situation that's going to be impossible for them to come out of this okay. | ||
| And we're approaching also the 250th anniversary of the Marine Corps in November 10th, which grew out of this rebellion against British troops in Philadelphia. | ||
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This was provoked by the White House. | |
| The reason why? | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| I posit that maybe we are part of a national experiment to determine how far the federal government can go in reaching in and taking over power from a governor, power from a local jurisdiction, And frankly, leaving our city and our citizens, our residents, in fear. | ||
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These are people that are trained to use lethal force, right? | |
| They're the ones that are sent in to the worst of the worst. | ||
| Do you worry at all that there could be a trigger, something that happens where a misperception on some Marines' part that there was a threat and an overreaction as a result? | ||
| Not to compare U.S. Marines to British occupying troops in colonial times, but the Boston Massacre happened because an ice ball was thrown at one of the British troops guarding this location down. | ||
| And it turned into somebody firing and then a volley of fire. | ||
| So it was this massing crowd, which was angry and violent, and it turned into five British, excuse me, Boston residents being killed, and really what triggered the movement to lead to the Americans. | ||
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The birth of a nation. | |
| Right? | ||
| Putting U.S. Marines there, problematic. | ||
| Even if this completely de-escalates, my concern is this administration's now had a staffing exercise on how to do this. | ||
| Even if the National Guard troops don't do anything more than they've done the last couple days, if the U.S. Marines don't do anything, it's become normalized. | ||
| It's almost worse if this kind of just goes away and dissipates over the next couple of days. | ||
| It's also something in the military called policy by CONOP. | ||
| If there's not an established policy and you just do the same type of mission over and over again, you lull people into complacency and that just becomes policy. | ||
| So now if you activate National Guard, you know, using federal authorities, if you start sending in U.S. Marines or others, 82nd Airborne, it could become normalized and is completely against our founding principles. | ||
| Cole, this is the latest location that the Trump administration has deployed ice agents in a form and in a fashion that heretofore we haven't seen, as you mentioned, during this administration. | ||
| This is Ventura County. | ||
| In Ventura County, one of the hearts of California's agricultural economy, which, by the way, is part of the economic engine of the United States of America. | ||
| This is a multi-billion dollar industry in the fourth largest economy in the world, the state of California is. | ||
| Ventura has thousands of farms just like this one and tens of thousands of workers. | ||
| who work on these farms and uh... | ||
| yesterday And the idea that this would be some kind of national security threat or this would be some kind of clear and present danger to the people of California, take a look for yourself. | ||
| If you know what's happening out here right now, Nicole, there are strawberries sitting behind me that are going unpicked. | ||
| Things are dying literally on the vine. | ||
| Maybe JB can give you a look. | ||
| Take a look. | ||
| I can smell the strawberries from where I'm standing right now. | ||
| There are a couple of workers out in this field, but really all you see is fruit that is going unpicked. | ||
| And so what ultimately will end up happening, Nicole, is in a couple of months, if not weeks, you're going to start to feel the impact on the economy, not just of California, but across the country. | ||
| The food supply of this state and of people across the nation will start to be impacted. | ||
| Accordingly, Nicole, the workers who are at the beating heart of California's economy are not going to be showing up to work, and obviously the consequences of that are very clear to everybody. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | ||
| It's Wednesday, 11 June, Year of the Lord 2025. | ||
| A lot happening across the planet in the Third World War. | ||
| We're going to go to, and also we've got Brian Glenn at the Kennedy Center. | ||
| President Trump's going there tonight to see. | ||
| Les Mis. | ||
| We'll get to that in a moment. | ||
| Big developments in the Middle East. | ||
| I think there may be a deal, but it looks like the embassies or some other bases, embassies, etc., may be drawing down personnel. | ||
| We're going to get to all of that. | ||
| Also, the head of CENCOM was supposed to testify tomorrow on Capitol Hill. | ||
| He's canceled that. | ||
| Tweet just went on that. | ||
| Kurt Mills is going to join us. | ||
| I believe he's actually near the NATO headquarters in Brussels, or he was. | ||
| He's going to join us in a little while, but we've got a lot to get through. | ||
| Mark Mitchell, first off, you see the total meltdown of the Democratic Party. | ||
| Right there, you had a guy comparing the Marines and what the Marines are doing in L.A. and maybe throughout the rest of the country to Fallujah, Bella Wood, and the Boston Massacre, and the British troops of the Boston Massacre. | ||
| They are so over the top. | ||
| And of course, but the mayor of Los Angeles says the quiet part out loud. | ||
| This did start when President Trump and Stephen Miller and others in Homan started to crank up the mass deportations. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And they're in meltdown. | ||
| Right there you saw the MSNBC guy. | ||
| Oh my gosh, they're not picking the strawberries. | ||
| The strawberries are rotting in the field. | ||
| Because this is what they want. | ||
| They need to hire some Americans quick. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Mark Mitchell taught me about the, Do the American people have President Trump's back on this issue? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's got sticky supporters, and through all of the stuff in this fall, people have not abandoned him, whatever. | ||
| and they're just trying to get more and more histrionic about the things that they say are going wrong, and they've lost their ability to affect public opinion. | ||
| Donald Trump was about a net plus one a couple of days ago in approval, and ever since this stuff, He's at plus five today. | ||
| I think he's going to have a 53% print tomorrow. | ||
| That's where he was back in January 20th. | ||
| And so, again, he didn't come in with some massive fake honeymoon because he made all these campaign lies. | ||
| He came in, focused on a very specific agenda, and people have his back. | ||
| Higher right direction polling than we've ever had in 20 years. | ||
| We're at 47% right direction today, 48% wrong track. | ||
| That's got to be in the top five or six readings. | ||
| And so yeah, I think they are lying to people and people have gotten a very good lesson over the last four years. | ||
| About how to see through the fake media stuff. | ||
| And they don't get the optics they want. | ||
| I think everybody's out there on social media sharing clips of these Marines, like rolling up these ANFA people and knocking them to the ground. | ||
| I think it's awesome. | ||
| This is not the same country that responded negatively to the Elian Gonzalez picture. | ||
| It's just not. | ||
| It's been through too much. | ||
| It's been through the Biden administration. | ||
| And what really blows my mind, and what maybe you can help me understand more, I understand the mind of American voters. | ||
| I don't understand necessarily the mind of a committed Marxist or whatever is going on in Gavin Newsom's head. | ||
| But this has got to be one of the most stark examples of somebody getting up on their soapbox, leaning into it, filling the leadership vacuum, standing out on the front lines for like a 10% issue. | ||
| Like, this is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen. | ||
| I don't know why that this is their hill to die on. | ||
| The only thing I can surmise is it really has been about flooding the country with illegals for electoral math, or maybe there are hostile adversaries involved. | ||
| How important is it to deport criminal illegal aliens? | ||
| 80%. | ||
| Only 17% say not important. | ||
| Only 5% say not at all important. | ||
| It's like 70% of Democrats. | ||
| The numbers are off the charts. | ||
| And we've been on your show so many times. | ||
| We've asked literally every way you can ask whether people support mass deportations or not. | ||
| They do more now than they ever have. | ||
| That's not going away. | ||
| And what's crazy is off the charts. | ||
| Hispanic voters want this. | ||
| On every single thing. | ||
| And they're following the news. | ||
| They wanted this judge impeached. | ||
| They want the Venezuelan gang members shipped back 72%. | ||
| So the numbers are off the chart. | ||
| And Gavin Newsom, he does not pull well. | ||
| He actually trailed in head-to-head. | ||
| He trailed Biden by six points against Trump. | ||
| And that was a year ago. | ||
| There's been a massive fire in LA since then. | ||
| The country moved even farther right. | ||
| Now he's out there championing 10%, 20%, 30% positions nationally, filling a vacuum, getting ratioed all over Twitter. | ||
| I just don't know what the goal is other than to fan the flames of secessionism because that's what this really kind of looks like to me. | ||
| And I think that this is super organized as I think we've seen a lot of evidence that it is on Twitter. | ||
| But my gut tells it. | ||
| To me as well, because I've been following Reddit all spring, starting all the way back in January. | ||
| And they've been trying to get these protests off the ground. | ||
| They had the hands-off thing. | ||
| They had the protests at all of these Tesla dealerships. | ||
| And they were able to get a couple of boomers out there. | ||
| But what finally gets all the Antifa looter types out, all of a sudden they just randomly show up in June. | ||
| And you're right. | ||
| It's like after. | ||
| How long ago was it? | ||
| A week, week and a half? | ||
| Stephen Miller was out there saying we've got to pump those numbers up. | ||
| We've got to get up to 3,000 a day. | ||
| And then this happens. | ||
| The optics over the weekend, the visuals that you saw from Los Angeles and the nonstop coverage where people could see it. | ||
| How did Newsom, and I want to hold you through the break, how did Newsom think that he could sell the American people? | ||
| The founding fathers were on his side and that Trump was an autocratic dictator. | ||
| How do you think he could sell that given the visuals we saw all weekend? | ||
| Hubris maybe? | ||
| I got nothing. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Insane hubris. | ||
| Mark Mitchell Rasmussen is going to stick with us. | ||
| We've got Natalie Winters on about who's financing this, particularly in the state of California and maybe even California taxpayer money. | ||
| Brian Glenn's at Kennedy Center. | ||
| The president is going up there shortly to see Les Mis, and there's an all-star crew going with him. | ||
| I think Caroline and a bunch of people we know are going to go also tonight. | ||
| It's going to be a fantastic night. | ||
| Ambassador Rick Grinnell, what a fantastic job he's doing at the Kennedy Center. | ||
| Kurt Mills, folks. | ||
| Something going on in the Middle East right now, even as we speak. | ||
| We're going to be all over. | ||
| Kurt Mills is going to join us. | ||
| We're going to break it all down. | ||
| And Julie Kelly is going to come, and she's got a major piece on Substack that backs up what Mark Mitchell just said about the judge that people want to impeach. | ||
| She's got a theory of the case and walks through how Boesburg is responsible for what's happening on this revolt on the streets of Los Angeles. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | |
| Mark Mitchell, we're going to try to work out. | ||
| Mark's going to join us tomorrow morning to talk about polling around the big, beautiful bill. | ||
| Maybe some issues, maybe a couple of hiccups we've got to address on that. | ||
| Mark, any other closing observations on President Trump taking it to the streets with federalizing the National Guard and having ICE double and triple down on these raids, sir? | ||
| People want a return to law and order. | ||
| The justice system was cheapened and weaponized during the Biden years. | ||
| Violent crime was one of the number one issues that popped up during the Biden administration, along with the economic stuff, along with prices and jobs. | ||
| And then you have illegal immigration, which is very much about the economy, but also about law and order. | ||
| And so this border thing is the key issue here. | ||
| Americans overwhelmingly support mass deportations, and all the gaslighting cries and tears from MSNBC is not going to affect people anymore. | ||
| They are not paying attention. | ||
| Look at all the, Marines, they do humanitarian work. | ||
| They do security work. | ||
| They did it in Afghanistan. | ||
| They did it in Iraq. | ||
| And who are we talking about here? | ||
| We're talking about people stationed in California an hour and a half away from L.A., coming from 29 Palms. | ||
| They probably got called off of a beach in Malibu to come and restore law and order because Gavin Newsom refuses to do it. | ||
| And now they're going to do this whole thing on the weekend. | ||
| Now you have your global homo. | ||
| You know, wealthy billionaire philanthropists getting involved and it seems like they're trying to, I guess, relive 1970. | ||
| The one by me in Asbury Park, New Jersey is in the very same intersection that burned down in May of 1970. | ||
| The very same intersection. | ||
| So I guess they're LARPing like communist revolutionaries from the 1970s and I think they're being accelerationist and they're going to, I think, like you said, they're going to test the political will. | ||
| Gavin Newsom's out there. | ||
| Acting like a secessionist. | ||
| This is about states' rights and about human representation in Congress. | ||
| How is it any different? | ||
| And he's doing it wholeheartedly. | ||
| Coming from Richard Virginia, he sounds like a neo-Confederate, and you're right. | ||
| The guy comparing the Marines going up to L.A. to Fallujah, Bella Wood, one of the hardest battles they ever fought in Fallujah, another hard battle, and the British troops in the Boston Massacre over the top. | ||
| Social media, where they go to get you on YouTube, podcast, social media, Mark. | ||
| We stream three nights a week, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 9 p.m. usually. | ||
| Rasmussen underscore poll on Twitter, and I'm at HonestPolster. | ||
| Hope to see everybody there. | ||
| See you tomorrow morning. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Mark Mitchell, Rasmussen. | ||
| Let's go to Kennedy Center. | ||
| Our own Brian Glenn, the President of the United States, will be there this evening. | ||
| Set the stage for us, Brother Glenn. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Good afternoon, Steve. | ||
| We are live here in the Kennedy Center. | ||
| Well, a little bit later tonight, about 6.30 here local time, we'll have President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump make their way down the red carpet behind me. | ||
| And check out a preview performance of Les Mis, now the official opening. | ||
| There was a lot of buzz and John Solomon has a great article on this Steve about some of the controversy Behind this I've often said that whatever the left touches it typically destroys You look at the education sports and the arts and of course The left has made their way into the art scene, which basically has politicized everything | ||
| Rick Grinnell put out a statement a little bit earlier and said, look, if any one of these individuals are not professional enough to perform in front of an audience, that might have a different political outcome. | ||
| look than they do, then they're truly not a professional of their trade. | ||
| And so we'll find out tonight, Steve, if there's any shenanigans as the president and the first lady make their way into the Kennedy Center. | ||
| I'm hearing now from Rick, from Ambassador Grinnell, the producer, I think it should be fine, but I think they've got some drag people going to show up. | ||
| They'll try to do something. | ||
| But it's a command performance for the president in a very special group of friends, colleagues, supporters, etc. | ||
| You're going to be available throughout the evening. | ||
| Brian, what is your schedule? | ||
| Well, we're here until about 7:15. | ||
| I think at that point here on Media Row, the red carpet, President Trump and First Lady were expected to step out. | ||
| We'll hopefully get a few minutes with them. | ||
| But at 7:15, I think we've been told we've got to exit the building. | ||
| But until then, we'll have everything that develops right here on the red carpet, Steve. | ||
| We'll have it pushed out on social media. | ||
| Obviously on Real America's Voice, you can follow me as well at BrianGlennTV on Twitter, Instagram at Brian on Truth Social, and we'll put up any things that we can't find on the camera, we'll do on the socials, and we'll get it out to you. | ||
| Yeah, Brian, I'm going to come back to you before the end of the show. | ||
| We'll do that, so stick around. | ||
| Brian Glenn, Kennedy Center, President Trump, a command performance tonight of Les Mis, one of his favorites. | ||
| Natalie Winters is not there because Natalie Winters is working, going through documents. | ||
| Our resident nerd. | ||
| Natalie, you're a California girl. | ||
| What in the hell's happening in your beloved state, ma 'am? | ||
| Well, this is actually quite full circle for me. | ||
| I was in my Los Angeles area high school's version of Les Mis, which they co-opted and turned into like a transgender version of Les Mis to be ahead of the curve. | ||
| Although I guess that's probably not the biggest problem that LA has going on. | ||
| Now, what is going on with these riots? | ||
| I think that's probably still too euphemistic a term. | ||
| I think really dovetails with two key themes we've been hammering on War Room since before President Trump. | ||
| What do I mean by that? | ||
| First and foremost, that this is something called It's planned spontaneity, right? | ||
| They want you to think it's all contrived, but these are the NGOs, the groups that we've been revealing, whether it was they've been funded by Mark Zuckerberg or in a lot of the cases of these riots, funded, listed on the directory of ActBlue, or in some cases receiving overwhelming amounts of government funding. | ||
| I think the buried lead there, not just the sheer magnitude, and we'll get these specific figures. | ||
| But that it's basically 80% of these NGOs, these activist-type organizations' budgets that are being comprised by federal funding. | ||
| In other words, there's no organic support. | ||
| I think the other vertical through which it's an interesting paradigm to look at this is sort of what Mark Mitchell was saying. | ||
| The second you see the numbers of deportations skyrocket is when you see these people really get into formation. | ||
| But I also think that this stresses the point as to why the mass deportations must be comprehensive, not just on the front of deporting and obviously increasing those numbers, but going after the people who orchestrated the invasion. | ||
| People have gotten away with murder, quite literally in some cases, and now they think that they're entitled to the same playbook. | ||
| So instead of creating chaos actually at the southern border and jamming through tens of millions of people into this country, now they're doing it domestically, dare I call it, a sleeper cell. | ||
| And there's one group in particular that I think really is emblematic of this sort of weird public-private partnership, sort of marching troops for not President Trump, but for the deep state. | ||
| And that's the Coalition for Humane Immigration Rights. | ||
| Now, like I said, this is a group that is partnered with ActBlue, so compound not just the fact that they are listed essentially as a proxy of the Democratic Party, but the fact that ActBlue has been facing, what, investigations and mass resignations because they've been money laundering from foreign countries, but also essentially smurfing donations. | ||
| That's another vertical I think the DOJ needs to be looking into. | ||
| But their audit in 2023 showed that they were We're funded to the tune of $34 million, essentially 96% of it coming from the state of California, but from government funding with the total number of funds that they had received to operate being $45 million. | ||
| So in other words, this entity is essentially propped up by federal funding. | ||
| And what's really interesting about this group is that it is hardwired into the apparatus of the Democratic Party. | ||
| What do I mean by that? | ||
| Well, just last year, I guess not even, Adam Schiff was busy campaigning and speaking at the headquarters of the Churla Action Fund, so you can only imagine how much they've given to his campaign. | ||
| But this goes all the way to the top. | ||
| Back when Kamala Harris was senator-elect, and we have the clip if we want to bring in the next block with it, she actually gave her first ever public appearance at Churla HQ. | ||
| And she says, she praises the organization, she actually cites that. | ||
| It's sort of evoking the main reasons why she even wanted to get involved in public office. | ||
| But the bright side of this story and why we're glad that President Trump is back in office, there was a grant, which we have the picture if we want to toss up on screen, coming from DHS to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars going specifically to this one entity, CHIRLA, to help with what they describe as, quote, citizenship instruction and naturalization services. | ||
| We could probably do a 20-hour Just unpacking every word in that euphemism because that means coordinating the invasion. | ||
| But like I said, this about $600,000 grant, I posted it up on my Twitter and you can see there's a follow-up. | ||
| The DHS Secretary Noem, Tricia McLaughlin, the team over there, who has been doing wonderful work, I think, on the defunding of the NGOs, stepped in and they revealed, I guess sort of exclusively for the warm audience, we can put the picture up on the screen, that they have pulled that grant for that organization. | ||
| So they are no longer eligible to receive, at least in this one case, funding for whatever the heck citizenship services may be. | ||
| Let's play the clip. | ||
| I want to play Kamala Harris before we go to break. | ||
| Let's play it. | ||
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| And it is with great purpose and intention that it is right here at Chirla. | ||
| Because the work and the fight that has always been a part of Chirla's mission is one of the main reasons that I ran to become The United States Senator from California. | ||
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So let's just get right into it. | |
| So they just got $34 million and they're essentially underwriting this revolt we see in the streets from ICE trying to get and make sure we're deporting illegal alien invaders. | ||
| Is that correct? | ||
| And I also raise you that their president was invited to a roundtable discussion in 2021 where Kamala Harris was present and she campaigned there even before she won her election. | ||
| So never, I guess, radical enough for Joe Biden. | ||
| Hang around for a second. | ||
| Natalie Winters, Julie Kelly's going to join us by Judge Boesberg. | ||
| She's got a great piece up on Substack we're going to push out. | ||
| And Kurt Mills, something ain't right in the Middle East this afternoon, this evening, folks. | ||
| A lot of odd movements going on. | ||
| A lot of people canceling testimony to be at CENTCOM. | ||
| Embassies, we'll get all to it. | ||
| Kurt Mills. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | |
| As we said... | ||
| We're going to talk about the Middle East part in a minute with Kurt Mills, who happens to be in Brussels. | ||
| We'll go to him momentarily, but the streets of Los Angeles is where the epicenter is right now in the United States. | ||
| It may be the most important part because guess what? | ||
| We had 10 million illegal alien invaders. | ||
| We've got a lot more to go through on this story, Natalie, and we're going to do more of it tomorrow and Friday. | ||
| The question I have to you, you're an L.A. kid just like Stephen Miller. | ||
| Stephen has said, hey, the future of the country is going to be determined on the streets of L.A., and particularly how we do these mass deportations. | ||
| Do you agree with that, ma 'am? | ||
| Well, I mean, I think it's barely a sovereign state, right? | ||
| We thought Pride Month was bad. | ||
| You have people waving flags of other countries. | ||
| You've put MSNBC into a tailspin by which the same people who are championing Ukraine and sending our troops to every corner of this earth, now all of a sudden you have to proceed with caution. | ||
| I think the strawberry and agriculture rhetoric is quite tired and played out. | ||
| It shows you they have really nothing to their arguments. | ||
| It's always just emotional. | ||
| But this is why L.A. hits. | ||
| Because it is an amalgamation, I think, of every modern type and style of warfare, short of kinetic information, psychological, cultural, frankly, lawfare, environmental regulations, just the cultural depravity that you see there. | ||
| But why I think Stephen Miller is correct is because what you're seeing, like you've always said, is that tip over into it becoming essentially kinetic. | ||
| I mean, what you're seeing going on, military-age males acting as if they're sleeper cells on behalf of a foreign country with other foreign leaders getting involved, saying we're going to defend our own country, whether it's our economic interests, our personnel interests, and you have sleeper cell-type NGOs stepping up, not taking, despite taking federal funds from the United States government, taking the sides of illegal invaders. | ||
| It's absolutely backwards. | ||
| And then you sit there and you're going to be brainwashed and gaslit by Gavin Newsom. | ||
| That's California for you. | ||
| Natalie, social media before we get you back on tomorrow. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Natalie G. Winters on all platforms. | ||
| Thank you for having me. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| See you tomorrow. | ||
| War Room's Natalie Winters. | ||
| The best. | ||
| One of the toughest out there. | ||
| Julie Kelly, pretty tough yourself. | ||
| Julie, Mark Mitchell teed you up. | ||
| He said he was going through different aspects of the polling. | ||
| He said, hey, don't impeach Boesburg. | ||
| And the other judge, the numbers are off the charts. | ||
| Nothing's happened in the House. | ||
| You've got an incredible piece on Substack. | ||
| You're blaming what's happening on the streets in Los Angeles today on Boesburg. | ||
| How do you connect that dot, ma 'am? | ||
| Well, because, Steve, I mean, you and I have talked about this for nearly three months. | ||
| This started in Jeb Bosberg's courtroom on March 15th when he expedited that Saturday the first lawsuit filed by the ACLU to halt the president's Alien Enemies Act proclamation that ordered the immediate removal of illegal Venezuelans who are tied to Trenderagua. | ||
| Which has been designated a foreign terror organization by Secretary of State Marco Rubio and the President. | ||
| And I've covered this extensively. | ||
| And what Jeff Bosberg did that day, not only put all of the illegal Venezuelans into one bucket and protected them, banned them, the Trump administration, from deporting them. | ||
| He also ordered planes that were already in the air that were about to land. | ||
| In Central America, he ordered that night those planes to be returned. | ||
| Planes carrying hundreds of illegal immigrants, specifically Venezuelans who are suspected tied to this multinational crime racket, TDA. | ||
| And this is where it all started, Steve. | ||
| And other judges followed his lead. | ||
| We now see judges who have ICE agents stuck in the Horn of Africa with criminal illegals because a judge in Boston said that the Trump administration did not follow deportation orders. | ||
| We have another judge in Colorado following Jeb Bosberg's lead, refusing to deport the family of an Egyptian man who tried to kill people at a pro-Israel demonstration. | ||
| In Boulder last month. | ||
| So his dirty fingerprints are all over this judicial activism that we have seen sabotaging the president's deportation policies, not just the Alien Enemies Act, but others unrelated. | ||
| And of course, my favorite case, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the MS-13 gang member who was deported to El Salvador, his home country, by the way. | ||
| And Judge Paula Zinnis. | ||
| In Maryland, becoming his biggest defender, ordering Abrego Garcia to come back to the States. | ||
| And his welcome mat by the Attorney General Pam Bondi last week was a federal criminal indictment charging him with human, firearm, and drug smuggling over a nearly decade-long period. | ||
| So what else were these immigrants' illegals going to take from judges swooping in? | ||
| Disrupting their entire day, their entire docket, to defend them. | ||
| To defend illegals but accuse the president of committing crimes, of breaking the law. | ||
| Of course this was the natural trajectory here. | ||
| This is the judicial insurrection. | ||
| Where do people go to Substack to get this article? | ||
| You laid out very concisely. | ||
| Where do they go, ma 'am? | ||
| They go to Declassified with Julie Kelly at Substack and then on X, Julie underscore Kelly too. | ||
| Amazing work. | ||
| Last question quickly. | ||
| Mitchell says the polling is people want this guy impeached. | ||
| Why is that not happening in the House, ma 'am? | ||
| Do you have any idea? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It really should be. | ||
| And it's not just his in-court antics and the statements that he made. | ||
| We know yesterday, Steve, the D.C. Appellate Court vacated yet another one of his far-flung orders. | ||
| So he has been vacated by the Supreme Court. | ||
| He's now been vacated again by the D.C. Appellate Court. | ||
| None of these orders are sticking. | ||
| It's not stopping him from trying. | ||
| And this time, Steve, he told the Trump administration they have to figure out how to confer due process rights to these illegal Venezuelans now incarcerated in El Salvador. | ||
| Outside of U.S. custody, outside of certainly his jurisdiction, and the D.C. appellate court smartly yesterday, again, putting a halt to another one of his, what the DOJ calls, fantastical injunctions, where he is just making up the law and making up rights as he goes along. | ||
| Julie Kelly, you're great. | ||
| Everybody's going to go to Substack. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| The content's amazing. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Look forward to having you back on the next couple of days. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| Throwdown in Los Angeles spreads throughout the country. | ||
| Hey, one side's going to win, one side's going to lose. | ||
| No compromise. | ||
| Ramp up the ICE raids like today. | ||
| Double it down again. | ||
| Kurt Mills, we talk about the Third World War a lot here. | ||
| There is something quite suspicious that's been happening in the last 12, 14 hours. | ||
| Just walk us through the data points here from, I think it when... | ||
| The Iranian, the Persian foreign minister said they think we're pretty close to a deal? | ||
| Yeah, so just to level set for the audience. | ||
| Number one, Iran negotiations in the macro have been going very well, the fact that there are negotiations at all. | ||
| But number two, in the minimal, in the micro, they haven't been going well the last week or so. | ||
| Then, suddenly, today, the Iranian foreign minister, after days and days and days and days of poo-pooing the negotiations, signaled that we were close to a deal. | ||
| Seemingly as a duex machina, there has been a massive evacuation of the Iraqi U.S. Embassy, the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, among other potential U.S. facilities in the region, and there's a lack of clarity on what could be happening. | ||
| This is notably the same sort of time of night in the Middle East that the strike on Qasem Soleimani occurred in January 2020, and so there is considerable disquiet in Europe, in the Middle East. | ||
| And then finally, I would flag that there had been considerable anxiety about the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Kirilla. | ||
| His term is set to expire in July, and he is considered a hawkish outlier within the administration, potentially crosswise with the president or the president's agenda at the very least. | ||
| And there had been a view that he potentially could push. | ||
| For a kinetic strike or something out of the ordinary that could potentially sabotage the negotiations. | ||
| And that's all going on right now. | ||
| It's very fast emerging. | ||
| Okay, there's one event that happened, though, in one article. | ||
| The event was all day, and we had thought here at the War Room was going to be the entire war plan. | ||
| It turns out it was just focused on Persia and Israel in the nuclear situation. | ||
| We understand that DNI didn't attend. | ||
| I kind of thought that might be because they weren't that focused on bombing runs. | ||
| I've heard maybe otherwise. | ||
| So you had that, and then the next day CNN reported that President Trump once again had told Bibi point blank, I want the Gaza thing, you know, I want it done and done quickly, whatever you're going to do, and there's not going to be any military engagement with the Persians. | ||
| We're going to figure this out. | ||
| Diplomatically. | ||
| Now, look, I've been calling for more economic warfare. | ||
| I don't think we're anywhere where we were in the first term of President Trump and certainly nowhere where I think we could be to break these guys. | ||
| But how do you factor that in, given everything that's happened in the last 12 hours? | ||
| Well, I think the Gaza file and the Iran file are just increasingly twinned. | ||
| I mean, they're handled by the same diplomat, Mr. Steve Wyckoff. | ||
| And Netanyahu, the prime minister of Israel, is obviously the prime actor that could shake up the status quo on both files. | ||
| So there has been considerable reporting that Trump is pressuring Netanyahu to dial it back in Gaza, that Trump has been signaling, don't mess up. | ||
| the negotiations, which are ongoing. | ||
| Again, they're slated to happen, I believe, the sixth round this weekend in Oman and Muscat. | ||
| But meanwhile, you see increasing administration rhetoric. | ||
| The vice president, J.D. Vance, on a podcast this week said that, you know, you basically don't have a sole leader I mean, the language is quite pronounced from the White House, and no one really knows what Netanyahu is going to do. | ||
| The anxiety has been that the Israelis potentially could act alone, that the Israelis could try to bomb Iranian nuclear sites, the Israelis could act as spoiler for the negotiations and try to gamble, one, that the Americans will de facto have to get involved, or two, that the Iranians will assume, even if it's not true, that the Americans knew and just pulled from the negotiations, which would satisfy, frankly, the Netanyahu government just fine. | ||
| This deal that's on the table, are they even talking about? | ||
| This is, though, not a dismantling. | ||
| This is at best a verification deal. | ||
| It's something like JCPOA Part 2. I mean, how would you describe it? | ||
| I think it's more expansive. | ||
| I mean, I think you have a possibility. | ||
| I mean, the Iranians haven't ruled it out. | ||
| You have a possibility that Trump is going to be able to meet his zero enrichment threshold, that he's going to be able to get a deal that could have a civil nuclear corridor in the Middle East. | ||
| I mean, Contra 10 years ago, Saudi UAE are on side with Iran negotiations. | ||
| That is just a totally different environment that Trump had in his first term and that Obama had in his first term. | ||
| Additionally, you have to trump backing for this deal. | ||
| In a way that, you know, Trump would never have backed the JCPOA, even if he had stayed in. | ||
| So I sort of reject the contention that this is a continuation of JCPOA. | ||
| Yes, it's a deal with Iran, but this is a more conservative government, a more hard-line government. | ||
| And in that way, it could be a very more enduring deal if Trump inks it. | ||
| And additionally, you know, even the opening enrichment number, 3% from the Iranians, was an olive branch that was far, far Yeah. | ||
| More ameliorating than the initial offers from the Rouhani government way back in the 2010s. | ||
| So, yeah, it's a deal with Iran, but it doesn't mean it's a continuation of the Obama deal. | ||
| I think that's hawk neocon rhetoric meant to sabotage and, frankly, dissuade from the White House from doing this deal. | ||
| And the reality is it's very close to a binary. | ||
| Either we get a Trump-Iran deal or we are on the path to at minimum strikes. | ||
| But the reality is strikes aren't going to take out these nuclear capabilities. | ||
| It's going to have to be full-on kinetic action, which means war. | ||
| Hang on for a second, Kurt. | ||
| I've got some other questions here, particularly the activity that's occurred over the last few hours, which is quite disturbing. | ||
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| Okay, just across the wire a few minutes ago from the Washington Post, U.S. shrinks presence in the Middle East amid fears of Israeli strike on Iran. | ||
| The United States is on high alert in anticipation of a potential Israeli strike on Iran with the State Department authorizing evacuation of some personnel in Iraq. | ||
| And the Pentagon greenlining the departure of military families across Iran. | ||
| In addition, the U.S. has ordered all embassies in striking distance of Iran across the Middle East to convene emergency action committees, send cables confirming that back to the United States. | ||
| Kurt, this is one of my concerns, is that the theory is, whether it's nuclear weapons facilities or making of nuclear material and or ballistic missiles, if the Israelis decide to go it alone without the United States, the counter-strike by Iran We'll hit American bases. | ||
| There's not a tremendous amount of personnel there, but we do have them spread out in Kuwait, in the Gulf Emirates, and in Iraq, in the embassy. | ||
| And this would be the counter. | ||
| So if you would think something was up, this is what, of an imminent strike, and the Washington Post is saying that a strike may be imminent. | ||
| Laura Loomer, the great Laura Loomer, is saying there's a massive cyber attack right now by the Iranians in Kuwait. | ||
| In Jordan on military facilities. | ||
| Your thoughts, sir? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, again, I haven't seen any corroboration, that it's not true, of the Luma report. | ||
| I think as of now, I referenced the Soleimani strike five years ago. | ||
| In contrast, we don't have a clear causes belly here. | ||
| There was reports of an imminent attack by Soleimani that precipitated the assassination five years ago. | ||
| We were not aware of any Iranian action. | ||
| Again, the Iranians themselves, the foreign ministry today, signaled that we were close to a deal. | ||
| So if anything, This is being driven, the available evidence anyways, by an external actor. | ||
| As towards the evacuations, it's very possible it is just a perfunctory evacuation. | ||
| There aren't that many U.S. service personnel in the Baghdad embassy as it is. | ||
| I mean, Iraq is a level four. | ||
| Do not travel State Department country. | ||
| So this is not an embassy in, say, London or Paris or Berlin, etc., etc. | ||
| So it could be just a precaution. | ||
| Additionally, if the Israelis were to do – and there is some evidence that they feel they have a green light. | ||
| Whether or not that's true is unclear. | ||
| If the Israelis were to act unilaterally, the savvy – Frankly, interpretation by the Iranians would be the interpretation that the Houthis have, which is that this is not an American vertical, that they could respond individually and not attack Americans. | ||
| The dumbest thing the Iranians possibly could do at this moment is to go anywhere near American service personnel, etc. | ||
| But before I let you go, and you're coming in from Brussels tonight, I know you're over there doing stuff to thwart. | ||
| The European Commission and the European Union. | ||
| Good on you. | ||
| You're the editor of American Conservative. | ||
| President Trump, correct me if I'm wrong. | ||
| Any interaction I've had publicly, he said time and again, and the Washington Post, CNN's reported, he actually told Netanyahu, you've got to finish this Gaza thing quickly and no strike on Iran. | ||
| Have you heard any? | ||
| Do you have any feedback at all or any of your sources that have said that President Trump has eased up on no military strike on Iran as he tries to negotiate this deal, sir? | ||
| No. | ||
| The driving forces on a strike on Iran are Netanyahu. | ||
| Anyone remaining in the government really wants to do it. | ||
| It is the Joint Chiefs Chairman, Mr. Carilla, whose term is expiring. | ||
| Carilla was very much in coordination with the former National Security Advisor, Mike Waltz. | ||
| They wanted to do strikes months ago. | ||
| Those were scuttled. | ||
| There had been some talks at the Yemen strikes that themselves were controversial and got Waltz in trouble with Signalgate or a compromise. | ||
| This is the driving force. | ||
| The idea that Trump wants to do strikes, that is not on radar at all. | ||
| So if there are strikes on the front burner right now, my suspicion is that they are Israel or Pentagon. | ||
| And by Pentagon, I mean permanent bureaucracy driven. | ||
| Let me ask you, you know, John Reckler is a good man. | ||
| And Ellis is a good man. | ||
| But we got two guys at the CIA. | ||
| Are we on top of the CIA? | ||
| Because they're always a driving force in something like this, the burning guys. | ||
| Do you feel? | ||
| I'm not sure anyone's ever really on top of the CIA. | ||
| I think Ratcliffe is an interesting figure. | ||
| He cuts a lower profile than most figures in the administration, say a Vance or a Rubio or a Gabbard. | ||
| He's not a creature of the Foreign Service or the intelligence community like his predecessor, Bill Burns. | ||
| I'm not particularly aware of what he could be driving at. | ||
| That being said, my general impression of Ratcliffe is not a fire eater, not somebody who's going to go independent of the president. | ||
| And again, a clear presidential mandate here, what Trump has been driving at consistently is he wants a deal, a Trump-Iran nuclear deal. | ||
| He wants a deal. | ||
| does not want military action. | ||
| But my concern is... | ||
| We are farther from Russian rapprochement than at any time in President Trump's second term. | ||
| I'm just telling you because of this Ukraine. | ||
| My counter, though, is I think the Iranians, though, want a deal more than the Russians, and I think that's significant. | ||
| Kurt Mills, you're among the brightest we got. | ||
| Social media, where they go, American conservative, all of it, brother. | ||
| At C-U-R-T-M-I-L-L-S on X and the website founded in 2002 against the Iraq War by Pat Buchanan, www.theamericanconservative.com. | ||
| Thanks for your time. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Do we still have, is Brian Glenn still up? | ||
| Can I get a quick Brian Glenn? | ||
| I got about a minute. | ||
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| I tell you what, I'm sure he's getting ready for the president to come up. | ||
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