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June 7, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4544: Populists Rally In Ireland; Rosanne LIVE In The WarRoom
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roseanne barr
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steve bannon
14:53
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ben harnwell
03:45
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jim fanell
02:38
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joe allen
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joel gilbert
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malachy steenson
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tej gill
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jake tapper
00:08
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kevin posobiec
00:06
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
You've just not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
Mega Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banff.
steve bannon
Saturday, 7 June, Year of the Lord 2025.
Let's go back to Kevin Posobiec.
It's beginning to happen.
It begins in Ireland.
Finally, the Irish are waking up.
Kevin Posobiec, you've got actually a politician there.
Make sure, let's get some answers from him, sir.
kevin posobiec
Okay, yeah, we're back down in front of City Council, Cork here, and I'm here with Malachi Steenson.
malachy steenson
Hi, Steve.
Great to talk to you again.
steve bannon
Hey, good to see you, sir.
Talk to me, what is this uprising in Ireland?
It's not the Easter 1916 uprising, but is this the beginning of Ireland taking its sovereignty back?
malachy steenson
Well, it's the same issue that we had in 1916.
Just this time, we don't have an armed force to take back control.
We're doing this in two peaceful ways.
unidentified
I mean, the main issue in 1916 was the sovereignty of our people.
malachy steenson
And to take that sovereignty away from Britain and give it to the Irish people.
Now we have to take that sovereignty away from the European Union and put it back in the hands of the Irish people.
There's almost 94% of the laws that are passed in this country emanate in Brussels.
And that's not something that's acceptable.
The whole immigration pact that we're now forced to abide by will destroy this country.
And that has been brought in from Europe.
All of the things that were continually sold to this country about are international negotiations.
Any government's obligations are to its own people before any other country.
And we want, in this country, a government or an establishment who will put its own people first and who will look after the people here.
What we want is an island where people can get a house, where they can buy one or get one on social bills, where they can get health care when they need it, where their children can get an education without being indoctrinated with liberalism.
unidentified
Without having to look for a school place.
steve bannon
We understand the problems, and the Irish people understand them.
The difference in 1916, you were ruled by an Anglo-Irish aristocracy that were kind of put in, I guess Cromwell's people were put in.
Here, correct me if I'm wrong, you're sold out by Irishmen who are basically closer to people in Brussels, closer to people in Brussels than they are to the Irish people, sir.
malachy steenson
Well, we have never had to rely on partners to sell us out.
We have enough people in this country who are prepared to do it and take the king's shilling years ago or now take the European shilling.
And they have no hesitation about it.
I mean, the Prime Minister of this country, the Taoiseach, me and Al-Martin, not so long ago, described the Irish race as mongrels.
I mean, I'm not a mongrel, I'm a thoroughbred.
And when you have a political class who believes that its own people are inferior, I mean, there are thousands of people who come into this country seeking asylum, 30,000 directly this year.
A huge bulk of them are coming from the UK.
And a huge bulk of them have no identifying documents when they get off a plane.
coupled with that we have over 100,000 people in our warden, and many of them are coming in, and, you know, to staff our hospitals and staff our...
unidentified
Taxis and Ubers, too.
malachy steenson
Yeah, all of those things.
And, you know, it's one thing that I fail to understand is how the left, who claim to be there to protect workers and workers' rights and workers' standards of living, are intent on repopulating the country with people on the lowest levels of employment.
Working for the minimum wage.
That seems to me to be totally contradictory to what they say their position is.
But as we know, the left in this country, as in America, is just controlled by the liberals.
unidentified
They want to break the Irish people.
steve bannon
I love the phrase, you're not a mongrel, you're a thoroughbred.
Where can people...
I love that.
Where can people...
How can people keep up with what's going on in Ireland?
Because we're seeing a great awakening.
malachy steenson
Yeah, if you go on to Malky Stings on X or any of those channels and follow it on, you get all the links in those.
We will send you all the links to stick up there.
Because this is a grown movement.
And, you know, we're very thankful to the international media, particularly who follow us.
We get more coverage from international media, in fact, than we do from the Irish media.
And the coverage we get from the Irish media...
You've got another one in two weeks then, right?
Yeah, we had a big rally in Dublin on the 26th of April, 50,000 people there.
And what was striking about that was the good nature of the rally, as opposed to the shouting and the vitriol from the opposition, was the fact that it was a sea of frightful.
Here today, it was a sea of tricolour.
unidentified
That it was.
malachy steenson
In two weeks' time, on the 22nd of June, Sunday, the 22nd of June, we have another major valley in Dublin where we expect to double the numbers we had on the last occasion.
And again, it will be a sea of tricolours.
What we're taking back is our flag from this state.
We're taking back our nation, but we're taking back our sovereignty.
steve bannon
Amen.
Well, we will make a commitment now to send Posobiec back over there and cover wall-to-wall on the 22nd of June.
Sir, you're a patriot and a hero.
Keep the fight up.
We got your back, and we will actually provide even more coverage than we've already done.
So thank you so much for joining us today.
malachy steenson
That's great, Steve.
Thanks very much for giving us time.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
I love that.
I'm not a monger.
I'm a thoroughbred.
He looks like an Irishman, doesn't he?
Grace and Mo, if you can push that out, it would be great.
And we'll go back to Kevin Basovic.
We're kind of jammed right now.
I had some thoughts about artificial intelligence last night in my closing remarks.
Let's go ahead and play it, and I'm going to bring in Joe Allen.
Then we've got Tage Gill, Captain Fennell, Ben Harnwell, the global Third World War.
We're going to cover it all, and we've still got a special guest.
Let's go ahead and play the cold open for Joe Allen.
I'll bring Joe in.
God has chosen you to live in a time.
When the singularity is going to happen, think about that.
The most important thing that's happened to Homo sapiens and done not by people that believe in the tenets of the Judeo-Christian West, right?
It's going to happen and it could happen in the next 18 months.
It could happen in the next two years.
It could happen in the next three years.
It's part of this bill.
MTG, I'll talk to you tomorrow about just one small part of it.
And you're going to get criticized.
You're a decelerationist.
You're a redneck.
You don't understand.
This is the worst of MAGA.
No, they're going to call us everything.
This is the worst of MAGA, right?
They're uneducated.
They want to take down the Ivy League.
They want to kill science and engineering.
Nothing could be farther from the truth.
But we're not prepared to allow a bunch of nine-year-olds to work with this advanced technology, unregulated or untouched, and let them to develop what's going to be developed.
Not going to happen.
We have no earthly idea what's going on.
Not just in artificial intelligence.
You have no earthly idea what's going on in CRISPR, in biotechnology, or advanced robotics, or advanced quantum mechanics, quantum computing.
The five things that converged that the Chinese Communist Party 15 years ago said made in China 2025.
The top five that they were going to dominate are what leads to the singularity.
These people aren't stupid.
unidentified
So you have a lot on your shoulders, right?
That's exactly why God chose you to be here.
You're going to get weighed and measured.
steve bannon
And if you stand up, if you commit tonight, if you think about this and you commit, and I mean all in, like you have, through the dark days ahead, and put sometimes our differences aside.
And say, we've got to unify in back of this guy.
He's the one shot we have.
Right?
We're going to be victorious.
Okay, last night, and that goes for this audience, too.
Why you've been chosen for a time like this.
Let's go to Joe Allen.
Joe, you've got some real thoughts about this.
Walk me through it, sir.
joe allen
I think it is fantastic news.
There couldn't have been anything worse than this fusion ideologically and politically between MAGA and the so-called tech right or just the entirety of the tech sector pushing forward artificial intelligence, pushing forward robotics, and ultimately pushing forward.
So this split tells us two things.
One, it shows us that transhumanists are all too human.
You see Musk melting down.
The guy can't even transcend basic pettiness, basic human spite and temper tantrums.
So what we've got, you know, people...
And myself, I mean, it bothered me too.
what happens if our one real bulwark of resistance politically against the kind of transhumanist and post-humanist tech oligarchs basically allies with them, and then we're just in a monolith.
But I think what this shows us with Trump and Musk is, And alliances can always shift.
And this is not an unbreachable fortress.
And I think we're going to make it.
I think enough of us will make it.
steve bannon
What then is to be done?
You've got this issue now with the 10-year – you've got the issue with the 10-year – There's many more of these funding programs that people have not looked at.
They're essentially funding artificial intelligence that we don't really understand what's going on.
Look, artificial intelligence definitely has huge upside.
Nobody's arguing that.
But the downside, you know, it's got also potentially unlimited downside.
Are there enough eyeballs on this right now, Joe Allen, particularly now that the other part of that bill, besides the 10 years, it incorporates everything in the EEOs.
It codifies it into law about the U.S. government is going to essentially turn the entire government over to artificial intelligence.
joe allen
On that note, the – So there's been an argument in the Senate as to whether or not it passes the Byrd Rule, which basically stipulates that non-budgetary items can't be included in the reconciliation bill.
And so the Commerce Committee, Republicans, Ted Cruz.
crews basically are trying to add a provision that would tie the ban on states regulating AI to the broadband expansion program that's been going since 2021.
And so if a state then were to regulate The kinds of things like the data centers being built by Project Stargate in Abilene, the massive Colossus data center in Memphis.
And so they're tying it to money.
They're holding the money over their heads.
And Josh Hawley, always, to his credit, is leading a charge.
And cooperating with Democrats in order to do so to get this struck from the bill.
steve bannon
Well, it's going to be a big area of debate.
We need a debate on this.
We need a public debate.
Joe, where do you go?
Because you're organizing kind of all the information so people can get it in a one-stop shop, hopefully.
Where do folks go?
joe allen
Go, dude.
JoeBot.xyz at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z on social media.
Heading across country right now.
Updates incoming.
Thank you very much, Steve.
steve bannon
Okay, brother.
Look, we don't want to lay another burden on you given all the fights we've got, but this is why Divine Providence chose you, you, to be in this time and place.
To be part of this movement.
This is a gut check.
This is about your agency and about you.
If you decide and make the commitment you're all in, it's impossible for us to lose.
It's that simple.
The resilience of this movement is the resilience that's been shown to the American people at its finest down through the ages from Lexington and Concord.
And I want you to think about it.
Next Sunday, It's the 10th anniversary of President Trump coming down the golden escalator.
I want you to think about your life and what you were doing 10 years ago and your awakening.
unidentified
It's one of the most powerful things in the history of the earth.
steve bannon
The awakening of the American people to reality.
Short break.
Talking about the Third World War next.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon
Okay, one of the burdens President Trump has, he's trying to, as I said last night, in Georgia, he's trying to stop the kinetic part of the Third World War.
And folks, when this thing spins out of control, you're going to remember the warnings people had, and President Trump's trying to do it.
I want to go to the kinetic part first.
in this historic, what happened this week historically.
Tej Gill, walk me through the combat side of what's happening in this slugfest between Ukraine and Russia, sir.
unidentified
first I was out of town last weekend.
tej gill
I wanted to chime in on this Ukraine attack on the Russian airfields, on the strategic bombers.
This was an intelligence operation.
It wasn't a military special operation.
that was an intelligence special operation.
We used to train...
when I was in the Shield Team, we used to train with the CIA a lot, and this has them written all over it, either British MI6, the American CIA, and we've talked about before, the Ukrainian SBU, their intelligence service has basically become a proxy intelligence service for the CIA and MI6.
The shipping containers that house the drones, they had a That's what we call that, is a false ceiling in there.
So when you open the shipping containers and look inside, it looks like an actual ceiling of the shipping container.
And then in the top, it would be called a false compartment up top, a hidden compartment.
That's where the drones were housed.
They did this with plausible deniability.
They said this mission has been on the books for 18 months or two years.
I do believe that.
I do believe that Trump was not informed about this mission.
The MI6 and CIA, I believe, were behind this operation.
This was planned a long time ago.
There's tons of missions like this.
They plan these missions.
And they just go on to the back burner, and then they can use them when possible.
You know, they wouldn't have to inform Trump or ask permission for something like this.
This is all Polanski.
steve bannon
on.
tej gill
So the SBU actually...
steve bannon
You're saying out of Wiesbaden, Germany, this thing came out of.
Do you have any direct evidence?
I understand you've done it before.
It has every indication of it.
You're 100% correct.
No, they needed satellite help for the actual drones.
tej gill
They needed a downlink and uplink to fly those drones, and I've seen reports saying that A bunch of drones missed their targets because they had a crappy uplink and downlink for the satellites.
They usually use Starlink, and I don't think they use Starlink on this operation, so they either use cellular or a satellite transmission for these drones.
This has the Department of Science and Technology from the CIA written all over it.
They do these very crafty things.
These operations.
If you watch James Bond movies, you'll see Q. They give James Bond all these crazy instruments.
That's the same department that, I believe, created these shipping containers with the hidden drones.
It's got it written all over it.
steve bannon
Hang on for a second.
Hang on for a second.
Mertz came.
The Chancellor came on Thursday.
He was overwhelmed by the Elon situation.
Give me the political update.
Is the peace talks, ceasefire, that's all off the table?
This is now back to a slugfest?
ben harnwell
Well, it depends which angle you want to look at it, Steve, and good morning to you.
On the one hand, talking about these peace talks, they've never really been off the table, at least in terms of the theatre of it.
These talks have been ongoing.
There was a possibility when Ukraine launched its largest drone attack on the nuclear triad to date.
The day before the talks, the second round of talks were in fact held in Istanbul, there was talk.
Russia didn't pull out.
And one of the reasons for this, Steve, is because Russia really isn't at this stage in the war interested in having peace talks.
It has some territorial gains.
It continues to want to solidify.
So the talks are still ongoing on that point.
With regard to the new...
German Chancellor, the Reichscanzler Friedrich Mertz in the White House on Thursday.
Look, some people thought that In fact, that really wasn't the case.
I think the Germans, the Europeans, widely thought that the meeting was a success.
That's probably because the day before you had this huge falling out between President Trump and Elon Musk.
That was very much, it was even in some of the questions in the Oval Office in front of Trump.
But one thing, Steve, one thing that I will draw up from that meeting is that Mertz was very, very cunning in a certain sense, intelligent, cunning, play it how you will.
He said to Trump, he reassured Trump that the Europeans and NATO were going to be pulling more weight in terms of defense and that he said that they were going to rise their expectations.
steve bannon
Did he give any indication?
Because they fought us for the 2% in the first term.
Did he give any indication they're going to 5% of GDP?
ben harnwell
Yeah, I think they did actually, yes.
They did say that.
And one of the reasons that Mertz had the liberty to say that was, I think, before he was actually sworn in, formally, the German parliament had passed a law abolishing the debt cap, the historic debt cap that had existed in Germany from the Second World War.
They used to have a balanced budget.
I'll close on this point, Steve.
The importance of what the German manoeuvre is, is that they said that they're going to be continuing to rely on the United States.
You can read that in two ways.
You can either read that in terms of American taxpayer dollars and blood to guarantee Europe's security, or you can Okay.
steve bannon
Hang over a second.
Captain Fennell.
Of course...
This is the last day of fighting.
You're saying, hey, we're losing the plot here a little bit because the ultimate focus has got to be the Chinese Communist Party in the Western Pacific.
Your thoughts, sir?
jim fanell
Yeah, well, thanks for having me on, Steve.
And yes, today is the...
And I like to use this quote from James Schlesinger from 22 years ago.
He said, Midway was far more than a decisive naval victory.
It was far more than the turning of the tide in the Pacific War.
In a strategic sense, Midway represents one of the great turning points of world history.
And in that role, the battle remains unappreciated.
And I'm here to tell you 22 years later, it remains unappreciated.
When he said that, there were no threats from China like we see today.
So in the last 30 years, China's doubled, more than doubled the size of their navy, while ours was cut in half.
There's a graphic from actual Commander Eddie Layton, who was the Pacific Fleet Intelligence Director back for Admiral Nimitz.
And this is his recap that he gave to Admiral Nimitz.
A copy of it's in Pearl Harbor and Makalapa today.
But that's an exact copy of what he reported on.
And you can see the expanse of the Pacific.
You can't even see the West Coast.
You know, the Pacific is 28% of the Earth's surface, almost 30%.
And it is 15 times the size of the United States.
So people don't really understand the vast expanse of the Pacific.
And what China has been doing for 30 years is building a military that is designed to And they're slowly and slowly been building it up.
And they are now the dominant naval force in the Western Pacific.
And they're expanding out their operations.
And we have neglected our Navy.
While the Chinese Navy doubled, ours was cut in half.
And I know we were talking about AI and how that can be useful in some of these things, just like...
And so we need to get back to the idea of building the Navy and getting the Navy in the Pacific to deter what could be a catastrophic, devastating blow to the United States.
steve bannon
Okay, look, both of us are Pacific Fleet sailors, so folks will say, hey, these guys are biased.
Because they were raised and formed in the 7th Fleet and the Pacific Fleet.
So they've got this natural East Asia, Asian, Mahanian bias.
We've got a trillion dollar defense budget right now.
Correct me if I'm wrong, Captain Fennell.
I don't see a lot of naval shipbuilding in that.
What do you cut?
What do you not do in order to get a significant fleet like Reagan did?
We went from, I think I got in, it was 250 ships, to build a 600-ship navy.
Give me 30 seconds of that before we go to break, and I'll bring you back after break.
What do you cut?
jim fanell
We've got to draw down our ground forces and our marine forces.
They were exploded after 9-11, and I don't wish them any harm, but they don't need, we're not fighting a land war in Asia.
We're not going to fight a land war in Europe.
So let's refocus our resources.
We have resources in the Atlantic that can move, and we have ships that have been decommissioned.
Maybe we need to restore some of those.
And we can use some of our allies and partners in Asia to homeport some of our ships.
unidentified
We need to move the fleet forward like they did in 1940.
steve bannon
Hang over a second.
And you go with Trump's hemispheric defense from Greenland and the Arctic down, block the Soviet submarines to the Panama Canal to stop the PLA Navy from joining up with the Russians.
It makes sense.
Short commercial break.
We're back in a moment on the Third World War.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
Okay, Tej, um...
steve bannon
Sell me some product here, brother.
And I'm going to make you commit.
You're going to come back next week and put some meat on the bone on this situation about Intel.
And I understand.
You're Special Forces and you work 16 tours with the CIA and all that, but I want to have some specificity next week.
You'll commit to that, brother?
tej gill
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Yep.
tej gill
I'll be back next week.
steve bannon
Okay.
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tej gill
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steve bannon
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tej gill
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steve bannon
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steve bannon
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unidentified
Yep.
tej gill
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unidentified
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tej gill
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steve bannon
Yep.
Okay.
We've got to bounce.
You're coming back, though, Monday or Tuesday.
You're going to put some meat on the bone on this.
I'm going to hold you to this on the CIA MI6 involvement in Ukraine.
The bombing, okay?
Captain Fennell, we're going to call wall-to-wall coverage next Saturday on the 250th anniversary of the United States Army, sir.
All day with President Trump, the parade, the fireworks, all of it.
You're dumping on the Army.
You're telling me, hey, we've got to downsize the Army and our beloved Marine Corps to build up more Navy ships.
I'm holding you to it.
I need a column out of you, an analysis with numbers, not happy talk, because you don't give happy talk, to back up that we've got to take this trillion dollar budget and repurpose it for hemispheric defense and particularly for building up the United States Navy.
Is that a commitment, Captain Fennell?
jim fanell
Yes, sir.
I can do that.
steve bannon
Okay, maybe over the weekend I'll talk to you about this.
I want to break down the strategic importance of the Battle of Midway, what Schlesinger said 22 years ago and still is effective today about the vast Pacific being the strategic pivot of the United States of America.
Captain Fennell, you'll be up on American Greatness, sir?
jim fanell
Yep, I'll put together something and I have that for that column.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
jim fanell
There's a lot of us out there that understand this and we'll work together on it.
steve bannon
I agree with you, but we've got to make our case.
And they're going to say you're biased.
Bannon and Fennell, a bunch of Pacific Fleet, Seventh Fleet sailors, they've got the bias.
We've got to get beyond the bias.
We're just not pro-Navy, right?
We're not anti-Army.
Mo went to West Point.
We love the Army.
Particularly on its 250th anniversary, the birthday of it, this Saturday, President Trump, one of the biggest military parades in the history, I think since the Grand Army Review after the Civil War, this Saturday.
We're going to have wall-to-wall coverage, 12 hours.
Thank you, Captain Fennell.
Ben Harnwell, social media.
You're going to have everything up about the Russian-Ukraine war, the slugfest, sir?
ben harnwell
I will, Steve.
And tomorrow I'll be publishing on my Getter account, which is folks at Harnwell, simply my surname, at Harnwell.
I'll be pushing out an article, an interview I had with La Stampa, which is a major Italian newspaper today.
I'll close with this observation, Steve.
When Mert sat down with Trump in the Oval Office, Trump came out with this expression that basically Ukraine and Russia are two kids fighting in the park.
Let them fight at it.
I will add to that, as I give back to you, as I give way to you, I will add to that point.
One of these kids is the largest military-industrial complex the world has ever known.
The other is the most nuclear-armed country that the world has ever known.
America needs to disengage from this war right now.
Thanks, Steve.
God bless.
steve bannon
Amen, brother.
Appreciate you.
And we're going to push your content all weekend.
Thank you.
From Rome.
From Switzerland.
We did it from Ireland.
We still got Kevin Basovic.
May go back there.
One of my favorite people is in the war room.
This is a big day for us.
roseanne barr
Thank you.
steve bannon
Roseanne Barr.
unidentified
How did you wander into the war room today?
roseanne barr
Well, he brought me.
steve bannon
Joe Giller, my favorite filmmaker, by the way, has made some explosive films.
He's made a film about you?
roseanne barr
Yes, he made a film about me, and I really love it.
It's just a wonderful film, and it was a great experience.
And I finally got...
steve bannon
We got a trailer.
We want people to go online and get to film and watch the entire thing.
But you're kind of an American icon.
So what happened to you?
roseanne barr
I guess I am.
steve bannon
No, you're definitely an American icon.
Because you're a truth teller.
You're kind of that grit and tenacity that makes America so great.
No give up.
You're a fighter.
So what happened to you?
roseanne barr
I was born a fighter, for sure.
My mom says that when I was born...
I wasn't never getting enough to eat, which carried on in life, and they had to put me in a little tiny baby straitjacket to keep me from trying to eat my fists.
steve bannon
To keep your hands around.
roseanne barr
Yeah, like my mom says, I was like this, and I was just screaming.
Bloody murder.
steve bannon
Now, they did that in the old days, but they say today that would give, like, psychological problems.
roseanne barr
Well, it probably did.
It made me even more mad.
And, you know, she said.
She said I was always like that.
And my first word was no.
And my first sentence was, shut up, shithead.
Because I had a 15-year-old uncle who taught me all the dirty words.
steve bannon
Talk about your family, your mom.
Where are you from?
roseanne barr
Well, I'm from Salt Lake City, Utah.
And as I open the film, I say, because God has a sense of humor, he's the funniest.
I was born in an Orthodox Jewish family in Salt Lake City, Utah, of course.
And it was a weird upbringing.
My grandparents owned a tenement.
apartment house where I was raised.
steve bannon
How did they get to Utah?
Where did they come from?
roseanne barr
My grandmother came from Lithuania and she and two sisters made it to the United States.
One sister went to Israel during World War II and they they came here as my grandmother was a music student and she came to study music.
Their family sent them away during the war and they found out later that Their entire village had been murdered by Nazis.
And so that's how she got here.
Went to Kansas City and then to Salt Lake where there was a music academy.
And my grandfather was born in the United States and Kansas City also.
And came and opened a kosher butcher shop in Utah.
And so they served, you know, all the intermountain states with kosher.
And my grandmother was the first woman butcher west of the, whatever it was, Mississippi.
And so that's where I grew up.
And they also sponsored a lot of Jewish people, refugees from the camps.
And I grew up in the apartment house with people who had numbers on their arms.
and they told me that was their phone numbers.
But I...
My grandmother had a window seat in her house, and that was where I performed my impressions of Shirley Temple.
And my family assured me that I was more talented and beautiful than Shirley Temple, and of course I believed them.
And it was devastating to me at age about nine when I got out in the world.
No one believed, besides myself, that I was better and more talented than Shirley Temple.
steve bannon
But that belief took you somewhere.
roseanne barr
Well, it was devastating that nobody believed it but my family.
and it made me very angry at my family that they had lied to me like that.
And so I thought I'm going to have to restructure my entire life in order to become And then I realized my singing and dancing wasn't that great, but I could be funny.
My family was very funny.
So I thought, well, I'll reach the heights of stardom with comedy rather than singing and dancing.
steve bannon
Trevor Burrus: And so that arc led you to be one of the biggest stars of television, right?
roseanne barr
Jennifer L. Well, my family was really funny and my dad – If I had behaved myself, I could watch Ed Sullivan comics with my dad, and he would explain comedy, and he made me a comic, really.
And I just took it for granted that I could be funny, but I wanted to be a serious writer.
My mom wanted to be a journalist, too, and so I would always write things.
They would turn out ridiculous and funny, and I would be kind of ashamed that I wasn't a real intellectual and always end up stupid and funny.
And I was ashamed of it till I was later in my 20s and I went.
I would always be making smart remarks and I was a cocktail waitress.
And the people there, they would say, you should, one guy, he said, you should go down to the comedy place they just opened downtown.
And then it was like, bong, bong, hit in the head.
Oh my God.
I'm going to be a stand-up comic.
I was 28. And I did.
And the first time I went on stage there, I worked for a year to write five minutes of comedy.
Wow.
And then the day I pre- I just killed, and I knew I had, the thought I had was, I'm getting the Eddie Murphy money.
I'm going to get out of poverty and all that good stuff.
And then so I went back the second time with a lot of confidence and died a dog's death.
And got banned from the club.
And then I had to...
So I had to do all these other things to make it back to the stage.
I had to work in Unitarian lesbian coffee houses and biker clubs and jazz bars and universities.
And, you know, I just did whatever because I had the bug.
You know, I had the bacteria.
All of my grandchildren now have it.
I have ten grandchildren and they all want to be comics.
And I can see they got the bacteria too.
steve bannon
Joel, why is the film called Roseanne Barr is America?
Why is it?
Why is she?
Because you're one of the most controversial filmmakers in the country.
You and I have worked together for years.
You've made some of the most controversial films about Obama, Michelle Obama, all of Hillary Clinton.
Name it.
Joel Gilbert's there.
Why do you now pick a topic?
joel gilbert
Look, when I met Roseanne, I realized that no one had really put together her entire story, and that includes her upbringing.
No one really knows a whole lot about it, growing up with Holocaust survivors in Utah, in Mormontown, and how she kind of rose to stardom.
And then you might recall that they rebooted her show in 2018, and after one year, she had created a character who was a Trump supporter on the show.
And she was a Trump supporter in real life.
So the real story of how the media and the Democrats – That's right.
Well, what happened is they had a narrative that they wanted to show that Trump's supporters were racist.
That was the narrative they were pushing.
And Roseanne put out a very funny political tweet about how she thought, since Valerie Jarrett was born in Iran, that the Muslim Brotherhood and the...
It's a pretty funny tweet.
And of course they said, well, and Roseanne talks about this in the film, they said, well, no, we know what you meant.
Did you know that Valerie Jarrah was 10% black?
She said, no.
Well, we think you meant that that was because there was a racist tweet.
Other comedians like Whoopi Goldberg, Samantha Bee, made vile anti-Semitic and racist comments.
And because they were on the left, they were quickly forgiven.
Well, you didn't mean that.
They could apologize, no problem.
With Roseanne, they targeted her and said, oh, well, we know what you meant.
You meant because Valerie Jarrett, she's actually black, even though she said she looks white and she's from Iran.
So they canceled her, and she was kind of the first and biggest victim of cancel culture, which is a tool.
steve bannon
Well, she's the biggest star ever to be canceled.
joel gilbert
Well, cancel culture is kind of a tool of the left, so you learn about that in the film.
I think for the first time, Roseanne puts together the entire story, and you realize what a great patriot and iconic figure she is and where she came from.
And that's why I said the best title is Roseanne Barr is America.
steve bannon
Let's take a short commercial break.
When we return, we get a trailer from the film Roseanne Barr is America.
We're honored to have Roseanne Barr and Joe Gilbert in the war room on a Saturday morning.
Short commercial break.
unidentified
Back in a moment.
Roseanne Barr.
roseanne barr
Because I'm a housewife.
I want to be called domestic goddess.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
roseanne barr
Since God has an incredible sense of humor, I was born as an Orthodox Jewish girl in Salt Lake City, Utah, of course.
By the dawn's early light When I was three, I saw this vision.
He said, you will one day have your own show on TV, and it will be the Roseanne Show.
At the twilight's last gleam I learned in television that the worst thing you can do on a comedy show is write a funny joke.
They hate them.
unidentified
For the ramparts we watched.
roseanne barr
Wizard of Oz.
unidentified
And the Rockets were gone.
You're going to get killed.
And the Rockets were gone.
roseanne barr
For me, comedy is awesome.
I've always been political.
So I thought, man, I can give a hell of a speech.
And I thought, that's all there is to being president, really.
I will walk right up to Nancy Pelosi and slap her right across the face.
steve bannon
Roseanne Barr is America.
We're going to have a world premiere at the National Press Club.
Pretty hoity-toity.
roseanne barr
Pretty hoity-toity.
steve bannon
Not bad for a Jewish girl from Salt Lake City.
unidentified
Not bad at all.
Hell no.
steve bannon
In the nation's capital.
roseanne barr
So great.
steve bannon
And Joel Gilbert, those two, good God.
unidentified
I'm surprised that girl called the National Guard.
roseanne barr
I have to say that my dear friend Mel Kay, she's the one that put me and Joel together.
steve bannon
She's a hammer.
roseanne barr
She said, "You've got to get the story out.
Right now, it's so hot." Yeah, I love her.
steve bannon
So, 12:30, world premiere, short introduction, 90-minute film.
Then a live press conference with Roseanne Barr at the National Press Club.
War Room's going to stream the whole thing, and we're going to be there for the...
unidentified
Thank you so much.
steve bannon
What are you talking about?
This iconic moment.
And then when can people get the film?
joel gilbert
It's going to be immediately available on DVD.
It's on 86 million homes on video on demand.
Every dish that works.
unidentified
VOD.
steve bannon
Every dish.
joel gilbert
Dish Network.
steve bannon
Starting at the end of the world premiere.
Correct.
Monday afternoon.
joel gilbert
It's Tuesday.
It's actually going to be on there.
And then live stream iTunes, video on demand, Amazon, you name it.
steve bannon
I want him back on on Tuesday morning.
We'll make another big push before it goes live.
roseanne barr
That's so cool.
unidentified
So exciting.
steve bannon
But I want to get back to you.
What shocked me about your show when you came back is that the character was kind of so positive or so, you know, you were drawn into this character.
I was stunned.
That a network or TV executives actually, because it wasn't a goof.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
I was shocked that you were even on more than one or two episodes before it was shut down.
How did that come about?
roseanne barr
Well, we did the whole season before it was shut down.
steve bannon
How did they even come to you and talk about that positive character?
roseanne barr
Well, Bob Iger came to me and begged me to come back.
steve bannon
Ahead of Disney.
roseanne barr
Yeah, to save his shit network for the second time.
And, you know, I told them what I was going to do, that, you know, I wanted to show a Trump hater and a Hillary hater in the same family.
And, you know, we deal with our differences with love.
Because I came back, they always ask me, but I came back because I was horrified at the way they were trying to divide Americans along race and class, which that was always what I talked about.
because we have to love our differences.
We have to love...
That's what America is.
unidentified
And it starts in the family and then with friends?
steve bannon
Is that the consensus?
roseanne barr
Yeah, and then neighborhoods and then communities and then, you know, small government.
And then, you know, that's what MAGA is, right?
steve bannon
But you come from Hollywood.
You understand it's so twisted.
You can't love it out.
You know that.
roseanne barr
No, I know, but I always was talking to the audience.
I'm talking to the audience.
Never was I talking to Hollywood because I just thought, oh, these are just the devils you have to go through to talk to the people.
steve bannon
To get out there to America.
roseanne barr
Because I knew they wanted to hear Uplift.
They didn't want to be degraded.
They didn't want to be talked to with that classist elitist sneer that everybody has in Hollywood.
They wanted eye to eye.
They knew.
And so that's what I told him I was going to do, and he was all for it.
And I gave him 28 million viewers.
steve bannon
In today's time.
roseanne barr
And then Trump called to congratulate me on my numbers and ABC wouldn't cover it.
So I had to go on CBS to talk about the President of the United States calling to congratulate me on my numbers on ABC.
So it started immediately and my son said, "Mom, I'm afraid that's the kiss of death for you.
They're gonna try to get rid of you because Trump called." And they hate Trump.
And so I think that my fate was sealed with that phone call from Trump.
steve bannon
Can you verify that behind the scenes?
It is a hatred of Trump.
It's not a rational hatred.
Just this emotional hatred of him.
roseanne barr
The first time when we went to the upfronts and, you know, it was.
steve bannon
This is where the shows are actually made.
People get excited.
roseanne barr
Well, this was where the press asked you questions.
And, of course, we all expected.
They go, what's it like to be back together, you know, as this cast after 20 years?
The first five questions, and ABC approved all these things.
The first five questions was black journalists, you know, BLM types, which filled the network as well.
And their questions were, how can you, after a lifetime as a civil rights activist, have traded it all to, you know, back a racist like Trump?
And it was five in a row.
Sarah Gilbert were sitting there.
Don't say anything.
Don't say anything.
And so I said, I said, I finally, after the fourth one, I go, bitch, they're not asking you nothing.
I'll answer.
You shut up.
And so I said, they go, you don't vote for Hillary.
How can you, you know, this and that.
So, I just had had enough because, you know, I'm that little baby.
So, I go.
And then it all went, you know, silent.
And then ABC finally goes, that's enough about politics.
Let's go into the, you know, what?
steve bannon
By the way, Clinton Cash goes all into that.
Where do people go on Tuesday?
Where do they go to get this great film?
joel gilbert
Yeah, well, if you hit RoseanneIsAmerica.com, you can see the trailer, and that'll link you up to get the DVD.
It's on every single cable network and live stream.
steve bannon
84 million homes on Tuesday.
We're going to have you back.
roseanne barr
But I just have to say, I'm so happy because finally I get to tell what really happened, and enough time has passed that people will see.
We won!
steve bannon
We won, and we're going to win more.
We've got the President's back.
An American icon, Roseanne Barr, live at the National Press Conference on National Press Club.
That's Big League, baby.
Right across from the Treasury Department, right across from the White House.
On Monday, 1230, the film will play, and then you're going to take Q&A.
Holy mackerel.
Take the Q&A.
War Room's going to be there.
I'm going to be there personally.
Roseanne Barr, honored to have you in here.
unidentified
Joe, always one of the most controversial filmmakers in America.
steve bannon
We're going to be up all week on social media.
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