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steve bannon
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Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
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I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
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MAGA Media.
jake tapper
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
you Welcome to the War Room.
natalie winters
It's Friday, June 6th in the year of our Lord, 2025.
Natalie Winters hosting, filling in for Stephen K. Bannon, but don't go anywhere.
You guys probably know by now, there's nothing controversial going on in the news.
Don't worry, we're going to get to all of that, but we're going to focus on the actual, dare we say, kinetic threats, of course, the Chinese.
Communist Party, you know, war room has always proudly been the home of signal, not noise.
And that's what we're going to keep giving you.
I think for me, the sort of top-line signal assessments of what has come out of this Elon-Trump debacle, placing the blame squarely on the former.
Is that first and foremost, we will not be distracted from our end game and end goal of dismantling, defanging, deconstructing the administrative state.
Doge had a good purpose.
It had a good intention.
But I think we can all agree that it did not actually seal the deal on the $2 trillion in cuts.
And it's not President Trump's job or our job as this audience to cover for where Doge did not complete the mission that they were tasked with, not even that they were tasked with, that they came up with organically.
That being said, we, of course, love the mission of Doge.
I think to its core, it represents bananism, right?
getting rid of the administrative state.
But I also think that this audience, what have we always And we're not going to be distracted from turning out votes, knocking on doors, doing what we do best by petty sideshow distractions on social media platforms that this country would probably be better off without.
And to that point, I think it's also worth noting that I think there was one word that particularly stood out to me that Elon Musk used that I think I take offense to and that I think this audience should take offense to, and certainly President Trump, and it's the idea of ingratitude.
Obviously grateful for what Elon did in terms of putting, you know, 200 and what is it, some odd million dollars into the state of Pennsylvania.
But at the end of the day, it was this audience.
It was the people who knocked doors, who got their hands dirty, who persevered, who put up with the FBI details and the FBI raids and the monitoring and the prosecutions, the persecutions, the jail times, the jail sentences, who really put the legwork in.
And if we were to just sell this movement out to the highest bidder or the donor class, I think we would frankly end up Back in square one, which is where we all started, the advent of the Trump revolution, which was the idea that we could decouple, not just from the Chinese Communist Party, but from the donor class to begin with.
And just because the people who write the big checks say that we have to care.
About, you know, insert whatever issue it is that doesn't actually matter for working class Americans.
We don't have to take that as our own.
The other, I would say, flag I would plant very firmly right now is that obviously the tech bros, love them, hate them, I think you know where this show stands on that.
We cannot allow Elon.
I'm sure Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos and all of those types have been calling the White House nonstop to try to become the new little buddy or not so little buddy.
And I think that this audience should draw the line in the sand right now that President Trump is best when we let Trump be Trump.
And we don't need any sidekicks by the name of Mark Zuckerberg hanging around the Oval Office or anywhere near it.
I think he should sell the house he just bought in D.C. and kick him out if it were up to me.
But I digress.
I want to get, though, to the serious stuff.
And that is, of course, the PRC, particularly what they're doing.
In Peru, there was a great new piece, if you want to toss it up on screen, in real clear defense.
All minerals are local.
China's man in Lima, of course, we've been talking about not just China's monopoly and really stranglehold over these rare earths, the sourcing of them, but particularly the processing.
What is it dominating?
I think 90%.
of the world's sort of ability to do that, to export the magnets, the batteries, the semiconductors, take your pick.
But this article really points out a term that I like, how Peru is becoming the next strategic outpost in China's global infrastructure web.
Of course, it's sort of the BRI style infrastructure buying over, but particularly their grooming, and I use that word and it's a full definition, future presidential candidates.
So I want to bring the author of that piece, Nate Pekarsik, whose last name I hope I'm pronouncing correctly, on the show to sort of walk us through the piece.
And Nate, I'm curious why you think Peru is a country, not just that the PRC is very interested in right now, but why our audience needs to be up to date on what they're trying to do there.
unidentified
So thank you.
Really appreciate it.
Peru's important because it's in our backyard in Latin America.
China's prioritized it, and we're letting them run roughshod over us there as they have elsewhere.
So it's high time that the American people start monitoring the risks there and that the U.S. government get there and behave strategically.
We're reactive on the defensive.
It's time we put China on the defensive, put them on their back foot.
And if we don't, we're going to have these looming threats and their ownership of strategic infrastructures surrounding us.
natalie winters
It seems like a lot of times when we're talking about the Chinese taking over infrastructure countries, whether, you know, directly through the sort of strategic investment or even just the blackmail of political elites, we often talk about.
It already happened.
It's been taken over.
But I think Peru is a particularly interesting case because it's sort of happening in real time, right?
There's sort of the open source evidence that a lot of these people who are running for office down there have been bought off or linked pretty directly and heavily to the PRC.
but there's also some backdoor deals.
If you want to walk us through who exactly is, No, it's spot on, and that's what makes it scary.
unidentified
So in the mayor of Lima, Rafael Lopez-Aliaga, we have an individual who's been successful in business, has positioned himself as a populist with a strong economic message.
But when you peel back the layers here, you see that that economic message is built on Chinese ties.
He founded, and it was entrepreneurial in founding, a very impressive rail company.
That rail company has blossomed, has grown its revenues, but those revenues are tied pretty directly to tens of millions of dollars of freight that are moving out of a Chinese state-owned mine in Peru.
So we have an individual here who has been successful.
That's all politically.
It has a compelling message.
Deserves some scrutiny because when you peel back, you see that it all traces back to Beijing.
And this is not an uncommon playbook, as you suggested.
This is the same subnational playbook they use to capitalize on ties with elites in America and all over the world.
So we see it happening right now at this subnational level where it's a mayor in Peru who has control of a political party and is positioned to potentially run for president of the country.
So he's looking to move.
And that carries with it tremendous risk, as we're seeing with the strategic infrastructure investments they're placing.
But if you were to take what they've achieved in Lima and escalate it to the national level, that increases the risk for what we have going on in Latin America and for the success that the Chinese communists will take and learn from as they update the use of this playbook all the way into the United States.
natalie winters
And Secretary Hegseth, I think, had a very large win.
I'm not surprised that Western media didn't really report on it.
But when they were down in Panama, they actually got Panama to essentially renege on their Belt and Road commitments.
I think they're the first country ever to leave China's Belt and Road.
Of course, they're planned for sort of global hegemony through these, you know, very shady, very subversive infrastructure deals.
I think probably people are most familiar with what they're doing.
In Africa, but I'm curious if you think that this is sort of reactionary to that compounded with what the State Department has done, talking about how they sort of want to re-engage in the Western Hemisphere throughout Latin America to counter Chinese influence, saying that, hey, you know, Xi, you guys got to stay out.
This is more our domain, certainly, than it is yours, or what you sort of think is the impetus behind their desire to go after co-opting Peru.
unidentified
Yeah, I think you nailed it.
I think they see that we're starting to push back.
I think the administration has had some success and progress.
But we're also seeing that I think the Chinese are a couple steps ahead of us, and we're realizing that in real time.
So when we make progress at Panama, we see that, oh, wow, they're opening a new port in Peru that is a megaport itself and could be a way to further offset any efforts that we make.
So they're underscoring that they are steps ahead of us.
Xi Jinping travels to the region.
He engages economically.
They also engage in a very robust way, socially and culturally.
And they find willing and able audiences and they capture elites like the mayor of Lima.
So we know the playbook.
We've had some progress pushing back, but I think to the end And the problem is that they're doing this all over.
So it's spreading us thin, and they're on the offensive.
We need to get to the point where we're putting them on their back foot.
And I think places like Peru, where the problem has not gotten entirely out of hand, they're at a subnational level where we should and can compete, we need to get in the game and start pushing back.
natalie winters
If I'm not mistaken, it was Peru where there's also some weird, like, shady visa cutout that allow a lot of Chinese nationals to end up in the United States.
I might be mistaken, but I'm probably not.
Last question before I let you go, bringing this sort of back home to the United States, do you see a similarity in a lot of these tactics?
And how broadly do you think you can sort of replicate what they're doing in Peru across, really, all countries?
unidentified
Yeah, they're looking to capture elites.
They start with money and direct investment.
They layer on and bundle additional services, strategic cultural engagement.
But they're very shrewd.
They have a moneyball approach to know the things that they really want and to throw resources on them.
They're doing it early and often in places like Peru.
They're capturing a mayor who's positioned to run for president.
That's not a minor accomplishment for the Chinese playbook.
But as you suggested, we can see it here in the United States the same way.
You can go to Pataskala, Ohio, and you see it happening in renewable energy investments.
You can go down the street from me in Aliquippa, Pennsylvania, and you can find it in a steel mill.
They're investing.
They're bringing their dollars, but they're also then capturing the elites to guarantee that they can lock in that influence.
natalie winters
Nate, if people want to get the article, stay up to date with your, I think, wonderful reporting because it's not past tense, right?
It's something we can still fix.
This is a clear individual, a guy, a mayor who should not become president, someone that hopefully our audience will get engaged with.
Where can they go to follow you?
Stay up to date with everything you're working on.
unidentified
Yeah, really pleased to have this piece published by the folks at Real Clear Defense, so you can read about it there.
And then I'm affiliated with the Foundation for Defense of Democracies that captures a lot of my analysis.
And hopeful to continue to stay ahead of where the Chinese communists are and to help the Americans win.
natalie winters
Thank you, sir, for joining us.
unidentified
Thanks so much, Natalie.
natalie winters
We're going to be joined by Colonel John Mills after the break, but you guys know we are all about PRC infiltration.
I think that's where I got my start on this show, the first hit I ever did.
For those of you who are saying, oh, perhaps some of us are changing our tune on Elon, I don't think I ever had the pom-poms out.
He was always kind enough to share my work, though he unfollowed and stopped sharing my work when I started criticizing the Chinese Communist Party again.
And for what it's worth, I think my first article that I ever did on Elon Musk Was probably all the way back in 2022, where I was raising the red flags about his ties, and I guess red flags with a yellow hammer and sickle, to the Chinese Communist Party in terms of not just market capture, audience capture.
He won't dare to criticize Xi.
I think he once described the United States and America as conjoined twins, but also has been around a bunch of Chinese state-run conferences and events and flattered the PR.
PRC and is in business with a lot of state-owned enterprises.
And as we know, PRC influence is, I think, can aptly be described as radioactive and toxic.
Once you go CCP, you don't go back.
And I guess if Peru chooses to go down the road to the CCP, they will not come back either.
So hopefully we get all over that.
Colonel John Mills, speaking of other countries where the PRC is expanding influence, the latest in South Korea and, of course, the United States.
The weird, I guess, agricultural terrorism is now a thing, at least if the PRC has its way.
We'll be right back after this short break.
unidentified
I got American faith.
Here's your host.
Stephen K. Vance.
natalie winters
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We are joined now by the one and only Colonel John.
That's okay.
You know I love my charts.
Next time, next time.
If you have any thoughts on the segment I just did, feel free to let that rip.
But I think we would love an update on what has been transpiring in South Korea post-election.
unidentified
Well, thank you, Natalie.
I do have some pictures.
I don't, but I'm sorry.
I will make up for, I will personalize some charts for you next time.
We just came back, our election monitoring team.
We went over there.
We wanted to give hope.
We wanted to help rally the South Koreans.
We wanted to observe the election, and we wanted to deter foreign influence.
In the end, it was an absolute bum rush of a massive Chinese operation to stuff the ballot box, especially Thursday, Friday of the preceding week.
The actual day of election was the third.
But it was absolute chaos at the early voting.
You could go to any voting center.
Didn't really have to have ID.
So they stole it.
But let's look.
Yeah, here are the pictures here.
Look at this.
They had the inauguration today.
They're another 13 hours ahead of East Coast time.
Look at this massive crowd in front of the National Assembly.
Look at that, really.
Now let's zoom back a little bit to put proper, This was the inauguration today.
Lee who essentially, Lee Jae-myung, who essentially campaigned like Biden.
Oh, look at that crowd.
Look at that really big crowd.
You only get that crowded look when Getty rushes up right to the platform.
So, literally, that was the size of the crowd for the inauguration of Lee.
And this guy won the election, Mr. 81 million vote, Lee.
No, I'm just taking that from the 2020 scam.
This whole thing was an absolute bum rush.
There's three distinct groups here.
China.
A globalist who actually flew in a lot of personnel to conduct the election.
This was just crazy.
A globalist who have put this Association of World Election Bodies in South Korea, kind of an adjunct of the UN.
But this is part of the international election cartel.
And then U.S. Dems.
Well, who was there three weeks before the election?
Clinton.
All you saw were him, a few shots of him and his lecherous grin as he was wandering around South Korea for some reason, unexplained reason.
But these three groups really led by China and the Chinese Communist Party through this election.
Yeah, this is the Association of World Economic Bodies, which was shut down by President Yoon during the very brief martial law.
Now, it's shut down, but this is their front door.
This is their executive office.
It kind of looks like, if you look inside, it kind of looks like the shipping clerk's office on the loading dock at Dunder Mifflin.
very unimpressive, but this body is, this is a, Oh, by the way, they received a lot of USAID money as well as the National Election Commission, which gives great entree to investigation, federal law enforcement, federal intelligence, and congressional inquiries.
What were they doing with the USAID money they received?
So it is a very serious matter now that Lee has been inaugurated.
He is using the term insurrectionist.
He is borrowing this straight from the Democrat playbook.
So the Democrats in America are absolutely counseling and coaching the Democrats in South Korea.
There is a challenge.
I mean, there's literally thousands of people.
There's a list he has created that he is looking to start rounding up.
One of the places that we visited after we visited was received a visit from the federal police in South Korea.
So they have already started the intimidation.
This is a very serious matter.
So, Natalie, we have got to get a U.S. ambassador.
Right now it's an acting ambassador.
The acting U.S. ambassador is clearly enabling the South Korean Democrats who really stole this election.
We're coming out with a full report next week and also a long list of those groups and individuals who need to be protected.
This is a very serious matter.
The insurrection, the penalty for death is death in South Korea.
And Lee is a hardcore communist who wants America out.
So we need to really get a U.S. ambassador and action-oriented staff in there as fast as possible.
Very concerning here, Natalie.
natalie winters
It sounds like what you're describing is eerily similar to, I think, what we experienced here in the United States.
So I guess I'm curious.
Sort of just from a meta perspective, chronologically, we say no conspiracies but no coincidences.
Here in the war room, is this something where it is a textbook, a pattern of behavior that you think is being repeated country by country, especially those where they have a lot of vested strategic interests?
Or is this the PRC escalating their influence campaigns, almost becoming more sort of in a way indirectly kinetic?
Is it more election warfare, ballot warfare?
How do you see this in sort of their evolving frame under the concept of unrestricted warfare?
unidentified
Oh, absolutely.
And they've been working on this.
The Chinese have been working on this for 30 years.
People will say, well, we have 28,000 troops in South Korea.
This is impossible.
Just because we have troops and an intelligence footprint and a diplomatic footprint doesn't mean we know what's going on.
The South Korean Dems have very successfully compartmentalized our footprint over there.
Out of the picture.
So we actually need to re-engage in a much better, stronger way.
While we were focusing on Taiwan, they just collapsed our right flank, their left flank, of the first island chain.
You've got to look at South Korea Peninsula as the right flank of our first island chain.
And this has been 30 years in planning, and we missed it.
Top people were asleep during their tours in South Korea.
So again, we need to get that acting ambassador.
We need to fire him.
You can fire foreign service officers.
I'm surprised we haven't fired more foreign service officers.
They're not like straight civil servants.
You could fire them on just like that.
And so we need to get rid of that guy who's over there and put an action-oriented machine I was there with Ambassador Morse Tan.
He would be a great choice.
Or Gordon Chang.
Need to get him over there.
And then an action-oriented staff.
Yeah, this is absolutely.
But it's been enabled by these globalists who, using this election body, it's funny, once they kind of got taken down, there was a populist win in Ghana, populist win in Poland.
They were able to pull it off just because there were so many citizen reports of Chinese operating the polling, the early voting stations.
It was ridiculous.
Brazen.
They weren't even trying to hide it.
natalie winters
Colonel Mills, we always love the insight you bring to the war room.
In the meantime, before we have you back, if people want to stay up to date with everything you're working on, all things South Korea, China, you name it, where can they go to do that?
unidentified
Thank you so much, Natalie.
So, Colonel Rhett John, Colonel R-E-T John on X, Colonel, or excuse me, Colonel Rhett John 2 on X, Colonel Rhett John 2 on X, Colonel Rhett John on Substack, Colonel Rhett John Substack, Getter and Truth.
And then on the 23rd of June, I'm going to be giving an hour-long presentation at the Institute for World Politics of the World on Fire.
Just many people don't realize it.
natalie winters
Many forms of war.
Unrestricted people's non-kinetic information, biological, psychological information, legal.
Take your pick.
The CCP certainly has.
Colonel Mills, thank you so much for joining us.
unidentified
Thank you, Natalie.
natalie winters
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Caroline Wren, the one and only, joins us now.
Caroline, we've got about two minutes before break.
I just wanted to bring you on.
I hear you have an epic rant, so we'll save that.
Audience, don't go anywhere.
But just give us a short sort of update on where we stand in the feud.
Though I think we know the clear winner that you were lighting up about this morning.
caroline wren
Yeah, so two days ago now, Mark Caputo came out with a story that kind of laid out the different things that had set Elon Musk off that led to this kind of meltdown that we've seen yesterday.
And one of those things that stood out to me was this guy, Jared Isaacman.
And I never really heard much about him.
It was someone that Trump had nominated to be the NASA administrator.
But it was sort of the first time I'd ever seen any reporting about this individual.
And that this was really, I heard from others, that this was the real reason why Elon Musk had melted down.
And so I think there's a lot of really interesting information coming out about this guy, and there's a lot of factions in different camps, but this guy was definitely being pushed by all the different tech bros.
Elon Musk stood to gain a lot, let's just say, from this nomination.
And so when we come back and do my epic rant, I'm going to lay out for you exactly why I think that I've uncovered Elon Musk had the level of meltdown that he did when this nomination was rightfully pulled by Donald Trump.
natalie winters
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Times are certainly turbulent.
I endorse everything Steve has been saying about what Caroline was just getting into.
But as I believe I was quoted in the Washington Post, all the journalists descended on MAGA World last night.
Looking for quotes.
Desperate.
I said, you know what?
I'll let the men take this one.
I'll let them duke it out.
We'll be right back after this show break.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
natalie winters
You're back in the war room where we, of course, know, especially from Trump One, that personnel is policy.
see and because this movement has become so powerful all the tech bros want to be you and be with you Instead of subverting the Trump administration like his, I would say, detractors and saboteurs did in the first term, by sort of explicitly, I think, going behind his back, trying to upend a lot of the administration's goals, particularly on the border.
Now they're sort of pretending playing footsie with us like they are one of us.
But unfortunately, we have what we call the receipts.
And if you're donating to Democrat candidates up until, you know, the clock strikes at midnight and President Trump is president, You're not exactly, I would say, America first.
I'd probably put you in the America last and grifter category, but that's just me.
Though I think Caroline Wren probably concurs with that sentiment.
Caroline, hit us with the latest.
Your scoop, shall we say, piecing together all things, what you think may be set off this feud.
unidentified
Yeah.
caroline wren
So I just, I didn't really buy it.
I'm like, is this all really all for Elon about the EV credits?
No.
What I really think this was about was this guy, Jared Isaacman.
So who is Jared Isaacman?
The man that caused Elon to truly have an epic meltdown and turn on President Trump this week.
Well, in December, Jared Isaacman was nominated by President Trump to serve as the administrator of NASA despite having zero qualifications to lead a federal agency and zero knowledge of public policy.
So why was Isaacman picked for this?
He was picked because Elon Musk wanted him at NASA so he could be a money printer and puppet for SpaceX despite having multiple glaring conflicts of interest.
You see, Jared is a fellow billionaire and founder of a payment processing firm called Shift4 Payments.
In a letter to his company announcing that his nomination, his nomination as a NASA administrator, Jared said that he did not plan to divest from Shift4 once confirmed.
Well, why would this be a conflict of interest?
Because in 2020, Isaacman took Shift4 public and began processing payments for none other than SpaceX's Starlink.
But Isaacman is not just a customer of SpaceX.
His company has millions and millions of dollars in SpaceX stock, which he bought in Yes, this is the same company he said he would not divest from once confirmed as the head of NASA.
And Isaacman has said openly and on numerous occasions that NASA should cancel all non-SpaceX contracts.
Huh, I wonder why that would be.
This nomination, frankly, reeked of corruption from the beginning.
And Jared is no stranger to corruption, by the way.
In 2010, he was arrested on fraud charges and faced multiple lawsuits in multiple states for writing over $2 million in bad checks to casinos.
And no, this is not the script of Catch Me If You Can.
Like, Jared Isaacman is basically a modern-day Frank Abagnale.
And thank God, really, his nomination was pulled.
And if this all was not bad enough, we have not even gotten into his political donations.
So Jared and his wife, Monica, are massive Democrat donors.
They've given hundreds of thousands of dollars over the past 10 years, almost exclusively to Democrats, including Chuck Schumer, Bob Casey, John Tester, Alyssa Slotkin and Mark Kelly.
And before you come at me and say, oh, well, Donald Trump gave the Democrats, guys, this is not the same.
Jared and Monica maxed out to almost every Senate Democrat campaign in 2024.
Meanwhile, you have this guy Jared out there donating to every Senate Democrat candidate that Elon Musk claims that he beat down.
So, you know, these tech bros, it is just, they're crying.
Oh, well, Jared actually gave to Republicans and Democrats because he gave $2 million to Trump's inauguration after the election.
I'm sorry, but that is nothing more than trying to purchase your job at NASA post the election.
It does not wipe away your decades of exclusive Democrat donations.
So please give me a break.
I mean, can you imagine, can you actually point to anyone in the Biden administration that donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to Republican senators like Mitch McConnell, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Tommy Tuberville, Josh Hawley?
No, that's not a thing that would exist.
So thank God this information was brought to President Trump's attention.
Thank God Jared Isaacson's nomination was pulled.
Thank God for the PPO and presidential personnel for finding out this information.
And I really hope right now that we take a hard look at every single name that Elon Musk put up for nomination into this administration.
natalie winters
Well, and I also think it's beyond donations, too, right?
that's sort of a myopic frame for them to be pushing back the idea that oh well maybe we did once donate to republicans i mean this And I think anybody who watches this show, when you describe someone as MAGA, it's not that you're Republican.
It's that you understand what is going on at the border.
You think the, you know, great replacement is real.
You think that what they're doing to destroy this country is intentional, right?
There's layers to this.
And the fact that they think that, oh, well, one time I donated to some establishment Republican, that that somehow absolves them.
I don't know about you.
I think that I'm sure the audience shares my rage in this because the only logical conclusion to stuff like this is that they think this movement, they think this audience, they think this show, they think that we're dumb.
And they think that they can pull a fast one over us.
And I think stuff like this is very insulting to the intelligence of arguably one of the most intelligent and well-informed political movements in the history of this country and perhaps the world.
So I'm just curious, your thoughts, someone who's sort of been on the donor fundraising side of things, you've been around a lot of these people, what is the mindset that you think that is propelling a lot of these people to even get engaged in politics, to try to do all this in the first place?
Why aren't they just having their 14 surrogate children and peacing out and having fun with their billions of dollars?
caroline wren
Well, you know, I've been a fundraiser all of my career, and so I've watched and studied how and why donors give the money that they do.
What was most interesting to me about Jared's donations is he lives in Pennsylvania.
I just rattled off a ton of senators that don't live in Pennsylvania.
I'll give people a pass.
A lot of people just—they are not really—they're not Republican or Democrat.
They may like their representation, or they give for business reasons.
That is what I see here, glaring in front of me.
This guy gave to every single Senate Democrat.
Why?
Because he thought that Democrats— I don't think this guy cared one bit if Donald Trump or Kamala Harris or Joe Biden or any of these people were in.
He wanted to go in there to make Money for his company and his stockholders and for Elon Musk.
And I think it's abhorrent that he would even get to this place.
And so when you just follow the money and look at this, I didn't even include that he gave I think $20,000 to Josh Shapiro, the governor there in Pennsylvania for him.
We were facing an existential crisis in this nation just six months ago.
If Donald Trump had not won, I shudder to even think about what our country would be facing right now.
That was where my mindset was.
That's where the war room posse's head was.
Natalie, I know that's where your head was.
Well, this guy's head was at Alyssa Slotkin and Chuck Schumer's fundraisers.
So, and I know some people are coming at me saying, oh, Caroline, he was definitely qualified for this, though.
I'm sorry, but I...
So I don't buy it for one second.
He hedged his bet.
He hedged his bet incorrectly.
He bought his way into the Trump administration with a $2 million bribe to the inaugural fund.
And thank God this guy is gone.
natalie winters
Well, I mean, I'm sure you hear it all the time, too.
It's something that I've been hearing a lot more in D.C. as I am out, you know, amidst the tech bro crowd, they're running around here.
But I'm always told, you know, off the record, I'm not going to dox anyone.
You know, oh, well, the CEO of this company, oh, well, this guy who, yeah, publicly is, you know, woke and donates to Democrats and believes this set of values.
In private, their values are actually really conservative.
They support the deportations.
You know, we're all on the same page.
We're super MAGA.
And even if that's true, which I know I might be 24, I'm not that dumb.
You know, we're not a cheap date here in MAGA world.
You gotta, you know, give us the goods.
But the idea that if you actually believe that and you saw the precipice that this country was on and is still in with everything that Joe Biden did and that you think that you could still sit idly by as a CEO of a company that could transform the direction of this country and you think that it's okay to still sit with your hands under your butt and not do anything, or I guess in this case it's not even just continue the status quo, it's actively aid and abet the Democratic Party.
That's not true.
You're not MAGA, right?
Those are two mutually exclusive worldviews.
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Right.
natalie winters
And we've only got a few minutes, but where I started all of this, the idea that by allowing these people to co-opt the MAGA movement – We're essentially ending up at square one again, except we've maybe replaced the Cokes and the Jeb Bushes of the world, not necessarily with the ketamine, but with, you know, the tech bro crowd, with the more transhumanist tech oligarch group.
Am I not wrong?
caroline wren
You are, but I will give the audience of you some hope here.
And the hope is that I was very upset.
I talked about this this morning on the show when Zuckerberg and Tim Cook and these others gave a million dollars to Trump's inauguration and got front row seats.
And I'm thinking, oh man, here we go again.
We're just letting all these people come in.
They're buying their way in and we're going to have another Trump admin 1.0 where these turncoats get into the administration.
I'm not seeing that this time.
Yes, some of them have been making their way through and getting positions and some of these tech bros, but President Trump has been holding so firm and so strong.
I mean, look no further than what just happened with Elon.
Elon gave $288 million, and he wanted a few different things.
He wanted a NASA administrator.
He wanted EV credits for Tesla.
And Donald Trump said, no, I'm not going to give it to you.
Tim Cook gave a million dollars.
He's been coming around, funding different projects for Donald Trump.
Guess what?
The DOJ is still going after them for antitrust laws.
Both Mark Zuckerberg and Tim Cook and these different tech companies all put up pretty, I would say, anti-competition folks for the FTC for different DOJ rules.
They were all batted down.
So this is the beauty of Donald Trump.
This is why I love and trust him and I'm so excited about this administration is he is untethered and untied to the money.
Yes, he certainly appreciates the donations and the passionate support, but it is the grassroots donors that fueled this movement starting from the moment he came down the elevator and it is the grassroots that are going to be with him until the very last day of this administration.
Hopefully this administration goes on through 2028 and beyond.
I'm so thrilled that Donald Trump has not caved whatsoever to these folks yet.
Yes, they're around, but it takes reporters like you, Natalie, and others to be catching this stuff and calling it out.
Donald Trump is only one man.
He literally has the What the heck?
Why am I putting up this guy?
He literally funded every single candidate.
That tried to impeach me.
That tried to put me in jail.
That is holding up every one of my nominees.
And so I'm not nominating this guy.
He's out.
Then Elon Musk had his pathetic, pathetic meltdown.
And here we are.
natalie winters
Tell you what, tech bros, if you guys want to prove you're so pro-Trump, why don't you donate right now to Trump 2028?
Then maybe, maybe we'll believe you.
Probably not.
Caroline Wren, if people want to follow you, stay up to date with everything you've got going on.
The rants, all of it, where can they go to do it?
caroline wren
It is at Caroline Wren on Twitter, Getter, and Truth Social.
natalie winters
Thank you, ma 'am, for joining us.
We will certainly have you back on soon.
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Well, then donate.
Put $100 million behind Trump 2028.
Not that we want your money necessarily anymore.
We'll see you on the other side of the break.
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natalie winters
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But I think Caroline Wren makes a fantastic point if you look at a lot of the selections from the Trump administration.
I think one vector vertical, we've seen a lot of good stuff coming.
From is of course FCC chairman Brendan Carr, everything we've got.
Going on over there, and I'm sure let's juxtapose that with what the Biden regime did.
I think there was a lot of reporting on what they did in some of their final days when it came to sort of the feeding frenzy, right, of your tax dollars being given to far-left NGOs, those that were involved with what was going on on the southern border, the lawfare against President Trump.
But I really think that's probably the four-year legacy of what the Biden regime did when it came to who they were selectively giving out contracts.
Thanks, too.
And I think that this issue, we can put the article up on screen, FCC Chief Brendan Carr is investigating.
Now, of course, they've been doing a lot of wonderful stuff on censorship, but how a lot of these failed 5G build-out promises, particularly in rural America, where I think the war room posse probably proudly, heavily resides, never really materialized.
The Biden regime sort of gave them a sweetheart deal, allowed them to overlook their repeated failure.
Well, I guess because of the fact that the guy, Charles Ergen, who was behind Echo Star, was a massive Democratic donor, I think probably on par with who we were just talking about, you know, several million dollars to Democrats.
Hillary Clinton, all the people hired Democrat lobbyists with deep ties to Obama.
But they were given this sort of special treatment.
And now we see the FCC working retroactively to really go in there, get in there, and turn it over.
I think this is one of the key provisions in the big, beautiful bill, since they're going to be putting up more spectrum for auction, the stuff that this company essentially failed on.
Again, the Trump administration, I think, is a proven track record of being able to reverse wrongs under Joe Biden, and I think this is sort of another perfect example.
Of them doing just that, because cronyism, giving contracts to Democrat donors just because they're Democrat, is certainly not the right thing to be doing in any capacity.
Will definitely be, I think, look, I'm going to go long, take the long odds on the Trump-Elon feud.
I think there will be a lot more developments probably over this weekend.
But, just like I was talking about, like we focused on really throughout this entire show, 5G, 6G, all that stuff being, of course, a domain that the PRC is seeking to really dominate.
We need to have our best people forward and we need to not be distracted, frankly, by people who are, you know, probably controlled opposition by the Chinese Communist Party, but agree to disagree.
I think most people in the Trump administration, I certainly know the people my age who are working at the lower levels, the people you don't hear their names are wonderful, committed MAGA patriots.
So I think Caroline Renz leaves us on a wonderful note to go into the weekend.
I know we have no days off in the war room.
Dave Brat will be hosting the 6th, so make sure you stick around for that.
He has a wonderful show planned.
I think they're going to get to China and something tells me Judeo-Christian values because it wouldn't be a Dave Brat show without that.
Thank you guys for hanging with me.
I hope you guys have a wonderful day.
weekend.
We have a special tribute to Bernie Carrick.
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Former NYPD police commissioner Bernie Carrick is dead.
He passed away Thursday at New York's Presbyterian Hospital, surrounded by family and friends.
He's dead.
A new era begins for the New York City Police Department as Mayor Giuliani passes on the golden badge to a new top cop.
Today, Mayor Giuliani said he was simply overqualified for the job, citing the fact that he is a former police detective and a proven administrator.
He brings a quality of leadership that I believe can give us the opportunity to build on a record that is a very, very difficult one to match.
Congratulations.
This is something I never dreamed of.
I never thought it would happen.
It's so important for Bernie Kerik, but it's also about the aspect of remembrance, the Christian faith, Catholicism, what ties us together as Christians, what ties us together in the Judeo-Christian West.
*music*
The remains of Bernie Kerik, our dear friend, have arrived.
With the Honor Guard.
david zere
Rudy Giuliani and Bernie Kerik are historic figures for all of New Yorkers.
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These events where the community gets together to honor people, this is iconic.
He was a colleague and a friend, but also a major part of the MAGA movement and a major part of the history of just not New York City, but the entire country given the 9 /11 attack.
Carrick was known as America's cop following the 9 /11 terror attacks.
Bernie Carrick is one of the most accomplished and effective leaders of law enforcement in America.
As police commissioner on September the 11th, 2001.
Bernie Carrick arrived at the World Trade Center minutes after the first plane hit.
A passenger flight ran into the north side of the World Trade Center.
He was there when the Twin Towers collapsed.
He knew the faces of the rescuers who rushed toward danger.
He attended the funeral of the officers who didn't come back.
Bernie Kerrick understands the duties that came to America on September the 11th.
The resolve he felt that morning will guide him every day.
There isn't a day that has passed since the morning of September 11th that I haven't thought of the sacrifices of those heroes and the losses we all suffered.
I promise you, Mr. President, that both the memory of those courageous souls and the horrors I saw inflicted upon our proud nation We'll serve as permanent reminders of the awesome responsibility you place in my charge.
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