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June 6, 2025 - Bannon's War Room

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Episode 4540: The Funeral For Bernie Kerik

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david zere

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unidentified		Thank you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We're going to continue to cover this.
		There's not live streaming inside.
		There remains a Bernie Kerrick about to arrive.
		The family, many of the war room participants, you've got Eric Prince, Boris Epstein, Mo Bannon, and many, many others, Rudy Giuliani, Dr. Ryan, all there.
		We're going to continue coverage of the funeral of our dear friend and colleague, Bernie Kerrick.
		This is Fifth Avenue.
		Here comes Here we go.
		We're gonna cut back.
unidentified		Let's get the ambient noise.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's very symbolic because Bernie Kerrick, as commissioner, police commissioner of New York City during 9 /11, I don't know, must have done hundreds and hundreds of these funerals for New York's bravest, he and Mayor Giuliani.
		Mayor Giuliani will give the eulogy today.
		We've been told by St. Patrick's.
		I don't know if the family's requests are at St. Patrick's, but we will not be able to livestream, which we anticipated the actual Requiem Mass.
		Today, but we will be here for both the outside ceremony, the Guard of Honor by the NYPD and other first responders and city officials.
		And we'll be here for the ceremony and movement when Bernie is taken out of St. Patrick's and hits, I think, an hour, hour and a half out of town where his final resting place, the family has requested.
		That no media be at the actual burial itself.
		Bernie Carrick, police commissioner chosen by Rudy Giuliani.
		Before 9 /11, he had been the head of corrections and a man that was famous for cleaning up Rikers Island.
		And then was Rudy's right-hand man.
		We call him America's cop during 9 /11.
unidentified		See the family right there.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Getting everything ready inside of St. Patrick's.
		This is called a commissioner's funeral.
		This is one of the most official commissioner's funeral, the mayor's funeral.
		These are what would be equivalent to state events in New York City.
		And of course, Bernie Kerr probably with maybe Commissioner Kelly and a couple of others, two or three, one of the most renowned police commissioners in the history of
		Like I said, Mayor Giuliani will give one of the eulogies today, given that Mayor Giuliani and Bernie were the team that really got the country through the 9 /11 attacks by a radical Islamist in Lower Manhattan at the World Trade Center.
		You're outside of St. Patrick's Cathedral.
		The reason this is very ironic is that Bernie, as you remember the time, those of you old enough remember days and weeks and weeks every day that Bernie and Mayor Giuliani would officiate at funerals for the firemen and police officers and other first responders killed in that obviously horrible tragedy.
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		Hello, everyone.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I think Carrick's been received.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Right there you see the flag-grip coffee burning.
unidentified		It was in the military police.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		And you see the priest who will officiate will meet the body, meet the remains, and then go into St. Patrick's and the family.
		And obviously many of our colleagues.
		Rudy Giuliani is there.
		Boris Epstein is there.
		Eric Prince is there.
		Captain Marie Bannon is there.
		Dr. Maria Ryan is there.
		Many, many others of the war room.
		Our own David Zier is on the riser right across the street.
		We intended to do the entire morning with the funeral and be able to live stream inside of St. Patrick's Cathedral in Midtown Manhattan, but a decision was made.
		And these things happened.
		It was decided that we're not going to be able to live stream, so David Zier is going to stay.
		Another ceremony with the solemnity of this where you saw the Honor Guard of the New York Police Department and of course the traditional bagpipes.
		You see the church also inside was already fairly crowded with participants that got in there early.
		Can we go to, and let's keep the shot, can we go to David Zier?
		David Zier is on the riser across the street with our continual coverage of this.
		There's some of the officials, the mayor I believe is going to be there.
		Is David Zier there?
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Okay.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		As soon as we get David's ear up, we'll get a report from David's ear.
unidentified		Amen.
		The grace of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, the love of God the Father, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.
		And with you as a spirit, the waters of the sacrament of baptism heard it, died with Christ and rose with him to be life.
		May he now share with him everlasting life.
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		They ask him to call into the phone number.
		Please join and see your entrance.
		It's going to be found in your hymnals on page 430.
		Amazing Grace.
		He can't hear in the IFB.
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		What else?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Just heard the prayers of Colonel Dolan as the bodies received at St. Patrick's Cathedral at the entrance, traditional Catholic service.
		Prayers are said over the remains, surrounded by family and other close friends and colleagues.
		Of course, Bernie Carrick had a tremendous list of friends.
		Last night, they had a Christian wake at St. John's Basilica in Patterson, New Jersey.
		Amazing graces.
		To him to receive the body.
unidentified		Let's listen.
		I have already come.
		T'is grace that brought me safe thus far, and grace will lead me home.
		When we've been there ten thousand years, bright shining as the
		sun, we've no less days to sing God's praise than when we first become.
		CHOIR SINGS We're going to keep the shot.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Let's bring in David Zier, who is our on-the-scene reporter.
		David, obviously you know so much about this time in 9-11, all the funerals, all of it.
		As we see some of the police officers, New York's finest, now filing the St. Patrick's, will be an overflow capacity.
		You've got Cardinal Dolan received the body.
		Let's go ahead and hear a couple more.
		Choruses of Amazing Grace.
		we'll go to David Seger.
unidentified		David Seger.
unidentified		And grace will lead me home When we've been there Ten thousand years Christ shining out
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		David Zier, can you put in perspective what we've seen this morning?
		The funeral of Bernie Carrick as New York's finest continue to follow in.
		It'll be an overflow capacity crowd at St. Patrick's Cathedral.
		We'll say Cardinal Dolan's going to officiate.
		Rudy Giuliani, America's Mayor, will speak.
		David Zier, you've been out there from this morning.
		Of course, David, you've gone through many of these evolutions with New York's finest in the fire department.
		Around 9-11, sir.
david zere ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Steve, a very moving scene here as there's a remembrance of 30 years of Bernie Kerrick's service to the police department, Department of Corrections, and serving as the 40th police commissioner here.
		The police lined the street this morning.
		Crowds have gathered up and down Fifth Avenue outside the historic and awe-inspiring St. Patrick's Cathedral here.
		They filed inside after Bernie's casket was removed from the hearse and brought inside.
		Big procession, probably about a quarter mile long with the vehicles and attendees.
		Notables gathered outside here, Mayor Giuliani, Andrew, Mayor Adams, Kash Patel were all gathering in front of the cathedral before the procession pulled up here.
		But I found something really interesting.
		There's not a lot of media here, and I bet you there's more media down at the P. Diddy trial right now than there are up here.
		And New Yorkers are missing Bernie Carrick, Steve, whether they know it or not, and the amount of lives he saved, lowering violent felonies, over 50% between Bill Bratton and Howard Safer and him as third in line as the police commissioner under Rudy Giuliani.
		They really cleaned up the streets.
		They need him again here.
		As rapes are at 28% up this year, felony assaults, 20-year highs again.
		So they brag about the murder rates going down and everything.
		But, you know, we need somebody as tough as nails like Bernie.
		And I spoke to a guy named Kevin M., who didn't want to be named with his last name, served with Bernie, under Bernie, at the Department of Corrections in 1995.
		And when he showed up, everyone thought it was Jean-Claude Van Damme, because he was tough as nails.
		But he cleaned up Rikers Island, Steve.
		And even 60 Minutes acknowledged that.
		Getting dangerous weapons away from inmates.
		And he had respect.
		And they loved his management style, Kevin M told me.
		And I have family who worked under him and expressed the same.
		So he was likable.
		He was caring.
		And he deeply cared about the people of New York.
		And how many lives did he save here?
		And his leadership being on site after 9-11, in the first 20 minutes, side by side with Rudy Giuliani, something that Rudy never forgot.
		So a very, very deep-moving Procession and events today here in Midtown Manhattan.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		No, David Zier is going to stick and we're going to cover it.
		We were going to live stream the entire event.
		As we said, they've made a decision, families, not to live stream the funeral itself.
		The Requiem Mass inside of St. Patrick's right now.
		We will be here for when the remains of Bernie Kerrick come out with the Honor Guard, and then he'll head to his final resting place, which I think is in New Jersey, about an hour
		David Zier, the reason this is so symbolic is that Bernie Kerrick, as police commissioner, and Mayor Rudy Giuliani at the time presided over so many funerals of Of the fire department and the police department that took place in St. Patrick's Cathedral.
		Take me back to that time.
		The raw nature of this.
		A city really in agony.
		The country too, but I mean New York City, it ripped to the heart of it.
		And particularly day after day after day.
		I remember there was a very famous photo from the New York Times that had it like an overhead crane shot and it was a, It was a mother and a couple of small, I think her daughter, and these children couldn't have been three, four years old, very properly dressed for their funeral going in and back of the flag-draped casket of the children's father and her husband.
		Take us back to that time because Bernie Kerik laid to rest in really a commissioner's ceremony, which is quite...
		But take us back to that time when Bernie and Rudy were presiding every day, it seemed like for weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks over the honored dead of NYPD and the fire department.
david zere ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and you have to remember also all of the police who died in the line of duty during Giuliani's administration and under Carrick's tenure as well as police commissioner.
		But 9-11, we have 7,000 dead so far, including the first responders who came through the pile.
		70,000 are sick with mesothelioma and COPD showing up 25 years later.
		More to come.
		It was an endless stream.
		I'm from Long Island, just outside the city.
		We lost about 475 people.
		343 firefighters lost their job.
		I believe about 40 Port Authority.
		And then on top of that, the police officers who died here.
		It was an endless stream.
		And I had family members, you know, buried in processions in New York City under Rudy Giuliani and Bernie Kerik.
		It was an incredible time and it was leadership that made You know, it was more than six degrees, or it was less than six degrees of separation for New Yorkers on that time.
		And I couldn't think of anybody better than to have Bernie Kerik.
		At the helm with Rudy during 9 /11, you know, imagine it was someone else, you know, who wasn't as effective as those two in power here.
		And the crime rate here in New York City, property crimes tumbled 65% in the 90s in New York.
		Felonies, violent crime tumbled 56% in the 90s.
		And they deeply cared about the funerals, you know, as opposed to say, not to get too political, but de Blasio, who was late to everything.
		He was late to funerals.
		You know, other mayors didn't go to police funerals.
		And Rudy Giuliani and Bernie Kerik are historic figures for all of New Yorkers.
		And when I saw the procession coming up Fifth Avenue today, it reminded me, again, of that time here when there was pride.
		In New York, there was pride in the NYPD.
		Bernie Kerik overseeing 40, 41,000 officers.
		Now you're under 30,000 guys leaving the force before they're even vested.
		It's a different scenario.
		They're trying hard here, but it's not good enough.
		And Bernie also cared about the mentally ill, and he cared about the homeless.
		And he also cared about, you know, getting when prisoners left the jail to get them assimilated back into their private lives in the community.
		So this is a memorable event.
		I wish there was more media here.
		But, you know, a lot of people are walking to Starbucks and don't really know what's going on also in Manhattan.
		So it's a little bit of a shame.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Hey, David.
		Dave Bratt here with you.
		Good to hear your voice, and thanks for the coverage here.
		Hey, Dave.
		Great to see you.
		Hey, I just had a question.
		You know, the demise of Christianity is being spread, but when you see the looks on the face of these police coming in and that congregation worshiping, you know, New Yorkers are perceived as tough and whatever, don't like wearing faith on the sleeve, maybe.
		But what's your sense when the faithful get together in that church?
		Do you see hope and promise and you see that faith still burrow deep in the American spirit?
david zere ▲ ● ▼		In a way, it's a celebration of the Brotherhood being in the NYPD and all the emergency operations people in New York City, the counterterrorism units here, a 30-, 40-year history of terror in New York, the crime rates of the past going down from 3,000 murders to 2,000 murders a year to under 300 under Giuliani.
		You know, these guys want to know that the people, So getting together for something like this is probably a reminder.
		Hopefully, you know, it reinforces their commitment to the job.
		And, you know, there's not much of that going on in New York City these days.
		So in a way, it's a good thing.
unidentified		Yeah.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, also, David, I mean, right now, what's happening at Columbia University and down at NYU in Washington Square Park, we have these radical jihadists on this Palestine situation, and you have these leftist Marxist, neo-Marxist professors and students coming together.
		You know, the threat, we just had an issue out in Colorado.
		You've got, had an issue down here in, um, uh, assassination down here in Washington, DC.
		Radical Islam is, is, is with us.
		And of course, Bernie Carrick and Rudy Giuliani ran the department and ran their division and particularly the counterintelligence part of the NYPD there was not after 9-11 for years there was not an I think there were 14. And try to take place in the next couple of years.
		And that's what brought that that team of Bernie Kerik and Mayor Giuliani and then Mayor Bloomberg afterwards.
		And of course Mayor Bloomberg brought in his own I think Ray Kelly replaced Bernie as police commissioner eventually.
		That team.
		Of officials really kept New York safe, much safer than it feels like today.
		I mean, if you had that team now, you wouldn't have this crap that's going on up at Columbia and down at NYU and Washington Square Park.
		You would never have that happen, sir.
david zere ▲ ● ▼		Yes, a lot of these students don't know the 40-year radical Islamic history in New York from El-Sayed Nocer murdering Maya Kahana in the Mariette Eastside Hotel to the Al-Faruq Mosque in Brooklyn.
		The Al-Sahadi Spice Market recruiting the Mujahideen to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan.
		And then you have the Empire State shooter and your plans to blow up the Brooklyn Bridge, the Midtown Tunnel, the Holland Tunnel, the St. Regis Hotel, FBI headquarters, the GW Bridge.
		Caught mixing the explosives.
		And thank God for the leadership of Bernie Kerik and Rudy Giuliani and the counterterrorism professionals in New York City.
		And then you had mounted policemen Wayne Rattigan in Times Square, who, when the lone wolf, so-called lone wolf from ISIS, put the fuse in the propane tank in the back of his Pathfinder.
		Thank God he put the fuse in backwards, and it didn't go off.
		But Wayne Radican broke that up, and you could have had hundreds dead in the middle of Times Square.
		And after 9-11, you had the Chelsea pressure cooker bomber attacks.
		You had the guy trying to light himself up on the subway.
		You had a $23 million laundering ring in Jersey City of al-Qaeda-type operatives.
		And it didn't end with, you know, Mahmoud Abba Halima, Mohammed Salome, and the blind sheikh, you know, going to prison.
		This continued.
		It's still alive and well today.
		And if these Columbia students had a heart, and the NYU students, where their parents are paying $100,000 a year, a lot of them going for free on visas, you know, if they had a heart and soul, they would care about the New Yorkers, and they wouldn't be spewing the garbage that they are.
		And it's a very sad...
unidentified		But also mine.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		David Zier, we're going to bounce back to our coverage in the studio.
		We're going to come back to you.
		In fact, if we can get a clip of the Honor Guard coming up, we'll play that in a little while.
		David, we'll come back to you momentarily at the end of the Requiem Mass when the remains of the honored Bernie Kerrick, the former police commissioner of New York, and I might say a foundational member of the MAGA movement, been with President Trump and supported President Trump.
		For many, many years, just in New York City, but also as an active candidate, Bernie was with us, with Mayor Giuliani, very early on.
		David Zira, thank you.
		We'll come back to St. Patrick's in a few moments.
		Dave Brat, these events, and that's why you've got to cover them and you've got to do it in the right way.
		The funeral of Bernie Kerrick is...
		In the Judeo-Christian West, in that kind of fabric, you see in a busy Manhattan, that day you've probably got 2,000 people in that church.
		The entire city in Midtown Manhattan stops, and like you said, this is one of the things that helps tie the community together and passes on those traditions and customs.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think it's a beautiful day, and we talked yesterday about the truth, the beautiful, the good.
		That's the foundation of the Catholic Church going way back in history, a couple thousand years.
		And so we need to bring that forward for the kids, for the next generation, for all of us.
		These events where the community gets together to honor people, this is iconic, right?
		Bernie Giuliani, New York City, it is the iconic American city.
		And it's got all that ethnic background, the archbishop.
		Of New York, Dolan is a major figure on the world historic scene, probably with the Vatican as well.
		Tucker interviewed him last week, Tucker's Protestant.
		And he's, you know, very civilized, nice interview, going deep in the content.
		And the problem in our culture right now, it's minus a culture, right?
		This is the culture.
		When you look at that shot of St. Patrick's, that's high culture.
		And you see that Irish Highlands pipe and drum band come in.
		I mean, if that doesn't send chills up your spine, you don't know music yet.
		And then you throw in the beautiful voice and the choirs and the organ and the mystery of it all.
		It's just a beautiful thing to see.
		And the major thing I want to emphasize to everybody is we need this in our public schools, right?
		Everybody needs to work to get this culture back in the schools for 13 years, from kindergarten all the way through to high school and then in the university.
		It's sadly missing.
		It's an abomination that we don't focus on the truth, the beautiful.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's Friday, 6 June, in the year of our Lord, 2025.
		We had had scheduled today an entire wall-to-wall coverage of the funeral of Bernie Carrick, given that he was a colleague and a friend, but also a major part of the MAGA movement and a major part of the history of just not New York City, but the entire country, given the 9-11 attack.
		A decision was made sometime that the actual live streaming from St. Patrick's would not happen, and so we're covering it.
		If we get the footage...
		The honor guard coming in down Fifth Avenue was a quarter of a mile long with the motorcycle police and then the honor guard itself with all the flags and all that.
		So as soon as we get that… Beautiful.
		As soon as we get that right.
		Let's go ahead and see.
		Can we replay?
		Yeah, here we go right here.
		We also put the actual noise of what happened.
		Here we go.
		No, no, no, this is much later.
		Let's go ahead and recut that.
		Yeah, let's go ahead and take that down and we'll recut it.
		Thank you very much.
		I'm going to direct today too, besides produce.
		Let's take our time again.
		It was very moving.
		a quarter of a mile guard of honor for Bernie Carrick today.
		The motorcycle police come out and then of course, And this is what's called a commissioner's funeral, so it's very, very special.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Who do we owe thanks to for arranging this huge event?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's Mayor Adams' office, but it is, Maria Ryan was the one with Rudy that actually made sure that the family knew that, hey, as a police commissioner, this is called a commissioner's funeral.
		If you're a commissioner of the police department in New York, you rate this level.
		It would be like a state funeral.
		At the federal level, right?
		Yeah, where someone's body gets laid to rest or gets laid up at the Capitol so you can go by and see it.
		And then it has all the special customs and traditions associated with it.
		So Bernie's getting the full honors of the New York Police Department.
		He's also a veteran.
		of many years and just a great guy.
		People knew Bernie on the show for many, many years.
		Then he got a contributorship over at Newsmax.
		Spent time at Newsmax.
		I think Newsmax is also picking up some of the coverage today.
		And look, the reality of the media business today, you know what it is.
		they're gonna be down at the PDD trial and not covering this.
		And also, you know, Bernie was such a major part of the MAGA movement with Rudy Giuliani, and Bernie was there the entire time for particularly I mean, and Bernie was one of the organizers of actually trying to get to the bottom of the steal.
		So behind the scenes, his work, I'd known Bernie for a long time, but every day as the people that watched the show at that time understood we were probably the leading platform.
		Getting to the bottom of the steel, and I was spending, you know, hours and hours between the show with Bernie Kerik actually in this city, in Washington, D.C. We had a war room.
		At the time, set up at the Willard Hotel.
		They had another one at the Mandarin Oriental.
		And in fact, it's where all those guys got COVID.
		Actually, I caught COVID too during that time.
		But it was 24-7.
		And then in the interim, President Trump went to Mar-a-Lago.
		Bernie Carrick was instrumental in Georgia, instrumental in Arizona, instrumental in that big fight we had in 2021 to actually prove that President Trump had actually won the election and Biden was an illegitimate regime.
		Things that should be under investigation today, I'm hearing different aspects of that.
		but Bernie Carrick, not just at 9/11, but here in the MAGA movement, was an absolute stalwart.
		And Bernie's the guy that you would call Remember, he had gone to Iraq.
		He knew so much about Afghanistan.
		He knew so much about radical jihad and just police work.
		People should know.
		It hasn't been publicly said, but I can say it now.
		We were trying to, Jared and Peter Navarro, myself and others, kind of working on this committee to make sure there's prison reform and Bureau of Prisons.
		Bernie's someone we wanted for a very high-level position at the Bureau of Prisons, but he was pretty upfront about his health.
		And didn't think, you know, he would be an advisor or consultant, but didn't think that he had the, really the, wasn't feeling good, right?
		Obviously later that came into really a collapse, which I think shocked his friends, myself included, and Eric Prince and other people who know him very well, how quickly.
		This situation occurred where he kind of deteriorated over four or five weeks leading to his death.
		But Bernie was in the hunt to actually be at one of the senior levels of Bureau Prison.
		And the reason it made sense, Bernie made his bones as the head of corrections for New York City.
		When Rikers Islands and the New York City jails were out of control, the murders, the deaths, the drug dealing, and Bernie Carrick, like David Zier said in somebody's interview today, the guy over the corrections, Bernie Carrick came in and they thought it was Jean-Claude Van Damme.
		I mean, this guy is a guy that looks like he could take on anybody.
		And he went over in a very tough situation and said, hey, we're going to clean this place up.
		And he cleaned it up.
		And that's why he would have been perfect for the type of reforms.
		President Trump is the greatest prison reform with the first step back.
		And, you know, Jared's very involved.
		Peter's very involved.
		I'm very involved.
		And we wanted Bernie very involved, too.
		Yeah.
		He's only 69 years old, and for those who knew Bernie, he was a barrel-chested—I mean, this was a man's man.
		This guy is a warrior, right?
		He's the kind of guy that you walked into, and he had a presence, just a commanding physical presence that you would know that— That the good guys had arrived.
		And of course, he escorted Rudy and all the different fiascos.
		Rudy said the other day, when Rudy was booked and everything like that, it was all, you know, Bernie Carrick did it.
		Bernie Carrick and Eric Prince, and Eric's up there today as we answer the coverage here.
		Those are the two guys.
		I had that press conference.
		I remember that press avail.
		Before going into Danbury, and those two guys were right with me, and we got into the SUV, and we went to the prison.
		And I checked in the prison.
		I walk in with Bernie Kerrick and Eric Pernish, the world's top mercenary, and Bernie Kerrick, the world's biggest hammer.
		And, you know, the prison officials were not thrilled.
		I got a little stink eye on that one.
	And Bernie Carrick was a...
	But in prepping me to go to prison...
	He walked me through all the details, exactly how you've got to structure your day.
	Everything he told me were things I could apply as soon as I went in there.
	He says, here's what you've got to do.
	Also, the presence you have to have.
	These are dangerous places, and there's a lot of dangerous people there.
	So he was a real mentor.
	He's a mentor to so many of us, and a wingman to Rudy Giuliani.
	Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
	It's also June 6th, and people know every June 6th, We talk about D-Day.
	Obviously, there's a couple of three things in the news also that we're going to get to.
	A big firestorm.
	Some false reporting, I think, overnight from Politico said President Trump was going to take some phone call from Elon Musk.
	I think President Trump talking to Jonathan Karl at ABC News and then Dana Bash at CNN, I think.
	He said, look, these people are trying to get me to talk.
	I don't feel like talking right now.
	I'm not sure there's anything to talk about.
	We're going to discuss a lot of that Caroline Wren.
	We're going to get her.
	Jack Posovic.
	Overnight, as we warned everybody, the Russians hit back in Kiev with a massive bombardment.
	It's been talked about being the biggest bombardment they've had in a while.
	Short commercial break.
	We're going to be back in the warm day.
	Brad's riding shotgun with me today.
	See you in a moment.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Van.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I want to thank Real Nervous Voice, of course, Robin, Parker, Sig, and Harry, and David, everybody.
		We'll go back to our coverage as soon as the Requiem Mass is over.
		We'll return to St. Patrick's Cathedral for the exit ceremony in commemoration of Bernie Carrick.
		We've been informed that we're going to try to have cameras at the actual burial itself.
		It's going to be a private burial just with family, which is great.
		Bernie is very close to his family.
		He had a huge family.
		They had a Christian wake last night at St. John's Basilica in Patterson, New Jersey.
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		Not just politically, but a little choppy on the...
		Trump and Xi dialed down the rhetoric and agreed to a new round of trade talks.
		Right there's a lead story in the Financial Times of London.
		A lot going on.
		Massive bombing overnight in Kiev.
		Jack Posobiec had joined Dave Bratton and myself at the top of the hour to go through that.
		As Dave Bratt was telling me during the break, he's always on top of information flowing and says, hey, the capital in Kiev is on fire right now.
		I think five dead, at least they're saying five dead, probably many more, but a ballistic missile attack, a missile attack, a cruise missile attack and a drone attack simultaneously.
		And I think that's just part of the punchback that Putin's talking about.
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		We're going to go to Caroline Rennes.
		Can you get some ideas?
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I just wanted to close out after we're leaving that beautiful ceremony at St. Patrick's.
		You know, not everyone is the giant, epic figure in history, right?
		Not everyone's the big, barrel-chested Bernie Carrick.
		Not everyone's Steve Bannon.
		I'm certainly not.
		What we can do to express our agency are the little things to get started.
		It's almost like spiritual exercises.
		We mentioned the news is all over P. Diddy.
		Train in your family.
		Don't command them, but show the virtue of not clicking on that junk.
		Click onto good stuff.
		On your investment funds, there's plenty of Christian investment vehicles out there.
		Get out of the junk.
		Get out of China.
		Get out of people who are harming us.
		Use your agency.
		Just on the small steps.
		You know, take a visit to the cathedral or your church on a Sunday morning for an hour.
		Just get back into some of these disciplines that will build up this country in the right way.
		If we all start doing that stuff again, we will restore America to its greatness.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Amen.
		Great.
		We have Caroline Wren is with us.
		She's been waiting.
		Caroline Wren, we've had an ongoing dispute between Elon Musk and the president.
		We've been a strong advocate here that it's time now to review his security clearance and many other things.
		So he went over the line.
		But this speaks to bigger issues about the Berligarchs versus the MAGA base.
		Your thoughts, ma 'am?
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm just so pleased to see that, I've been saying this for many years, that Trump is just the least pay-to-play president of all time.
		And this movement was fueled by grassroots donors and the MAGA base.
		It was never fueled by billionaires.
		And so it's great that all these tech bros, you know, came out of nowhere, decided to donate millions to Trump's inauguration.
		But Trump didn't care.
		He doesn't answer to the tech oligarchs.
		He answers to We the People.
		I mean, look at Elon Musk.
		He gave $288 million to Trump, hoping to get his EV tax credits, his H-1B foreign workers, and his preferred NASA numbers.
		Trump didn't give- didn't cave an inch on it.
		And these tech bros that spent the last eight years- Trashing Trump, crawling, you know, to him after he won in November, donating billions to the inauguration.
		I mean, look, he really has not caved in for anything.
		Look at Mark Zuckerberg, Tim Cook.
		Yeah, they got front seats at the inauguration, but they really haven't gotten much more.
		I mean, they pushed for the H-1B visas and got shut down.
		They pushed for their own antitrust nominees at the FTC and DOJ.
		They all got shut down.
		They pushed, you know, to end these lawsuits, monopoly lawsuits at the DOJ with both Apple and with Meta.
		Those are going forward.
		I love her, but Miriam Madison gave $100 million only to see Trump tell Netanyahu to go pound sand.
		That is because President Trump, his decisions are not made by the donor class.
		They are made by the base and where he believes that he should lead this country to.
		I'm really proud, actually, of President Trump, how he stood so firm and tall, while Elon just looks like, frankly, a child in this.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I want to go to this also, this NASA thing.
		You know, Mark Caputo, and if Grace, you can get that out there already, Mark Caputo's got a great story over Axios about the NASA guy being removed.
		And there's all this thing about, oh, well, he was so great and was going to get us to the moon and stop trying to get into the moon.
		Look, there's a lot of great people out there, but Sergio Gore, I think, is identified as the guy that President Trump requested this because this As you remember, Caroline, it was a little bit chaotic in Mar-a-Lago there for a while.
		They didn't really have Sergio and other people there to vet the people.
		This guy's donations, all the way up until after Trump won, were all to the most left-wing Democrats you could get.
		I mean, years of it.
		He's a left-wing Democrat, right?
		And people that argued, oh, he should be there.
		Well, hey, look, there's a lot of good people, a lot of quality people.
		President Trump's going to find one.
		But he said, look, I'm not going to be rewarding.
		People that have been giving money to the very people that have been trying to put me in prison, the very people that have been shutting down MAGA.
		And I think I've got a list of what these donations are.
		I'll make sure I get it to Grace.
		But I think Sergio comes out looking great.
		Sergio actually did the research.
		The president requested it because he felt, Caroline, that some of these people early on, before we had more formalized systems in place, had slipped in there.
		And as he said, and he told Elon, I'm just not going to tolerate people that are these left-wing Democrats.
		That had a, oh, an epiphany, you know, after Trump won and stroked some sort of check for the inauguration, and they think that Trump's going to answer them.
		President Trump is not.
		He is the least responsive to donors in history.
		People have asked for his, you know, support of sort of like military operations in Persia for the nuclear issue.
		He's not going to do that.
		They've asked for all types of benefits.
		Elon got turned down for the EV.
		As we turn him down in 17, that was kind of my duty back then.
		On all the mandates and tax breaks and tax credits he wanted then, that's when we first started getting into it.
		I said, look, you just got to get more money from your venture capitalist.
		Your returns are going to be lower, and you're going to own less of the company.
		But some guy, some guy or gal making $32,000 a year is not going to underwrite something you're going to make billions off of, and they don't have any participation in it.
		And we're going to get into it.
		We're also going to go to, Jack Pistobo is going to join us as the Third World War heats up.

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