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June 3, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4533: Elon's Out; Kicking And Screaming
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steve bannon
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liz yore
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morse h tan
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eric bolling
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jake tapper
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mike johnson
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unidentified
Almost 250 times.
I spent a lot of time on the O 'Reilly factor sitting in for him.
And I think he's spot on a lot of things.
I think he is missing the boat on this one.
He did just return from an Asian trip.
He spent some time in China.
And I think he—I agree with you, Steve.
I think there's a big risk when the Communist Party takes over in a country like South Korea.
You've got to hope that the strength of the economy overwhelms.
Any sort of communist ambitions that they have.
eric bolling ▲ ● ▼
But with that, you know, jump across the parallel and pure unadulterated communism is right there.
unidentified
It can get a little scary.
It's your show.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
So, Eric, no, hang on.
So unrestricted warfare, which has been their manual for 20 to 30 years, talks about political warfare.
What they've done in Korea is a model of how you do it.
They have taken a long time to get control of that party.
Just like in Taiwan.
The Kuomintang, which was the nationalist party under Chiang Kai-shek, is 100% a CCP party today.
That's why 20% to 25% in Taiwan is like a fifth column.
You're not going to have 100% support when we step in to defend the Taiwanese.
And Korea fell last night.
We're going to get a live report from Ambassador Tan and Colonel Newsham and Mills.
But this is a major strategic loss, particularly in the middle of this, and this puts Taiwan in jeopardy.
This is one of the reasons that Pete Hexits went to Singapore and he said, hey, I think the invasion of Taiwan is imminent.
This was on Saturday.
They caused such an explosion.
So at the senior levels of government, they're very worried about this, and we're going to go in.
I just don't think you can take a trip over there for a couple of days because the economy, there are certain elements of the Korean economy that are doing quite well.
What you have is disaffected.
Young people, because of the education system, are a lot like some of the young people here in the country you see on college campuses.
This is how the CCP operates, and they're very smart at political warfare.
In Korea, they didn't need bullets.
They got it by ballots.
And this is a wake-up call for everybody, Eric.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
I just wanted to get you to weigh in on it.
I appreciate your time, Steve Bannon.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Hold it, hold it.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
You wanted to drop...
He wanted to drop, oh, you know, I did, you know, O 'Reilly was the number one radio show, and I was host 250 times.
unidentified
That didn't cross my mind until you pointed out that I did.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Hey, we want to make sure Rob Sieg's got his number two pencil on.
Write down Eric Bolling's star 250 times.
unidentified
Yeah, you know why it's a number two pencil?
Because you can race very well.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Bolling.
I saw that live because that was after my Cuomo thing.
And of course I said, we've got to play it this morning.
unidentified
My producer said, nah, we've got other stuff we've got to focus on.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
So thank you and Mad Dog for putting it up.
unidentified
You're more than welcome.
Appreciate your time, Steve.
I always learn something with you, brother.
Good to talk to you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Thank you, man.
Appreciate you.
Eric Bolling.
Okay, so much is going on this afternoon.
We are going to get into Korea, but we've got a very special guest, a major breaking story.
We're going to play it right now in a cold open.
I'm going to come back.
Mark Caputo from Axios, a blockbuster story about Elon Musk and President Trump.
Let's play the cold open.
We're going to return in a moment.
unidentified
Public backlash to President Trump's so-called Big Beautiful Bill.
Not only is it facing opposition from key Republican senators, but former Doge leader Elon Musk blasting the bill, calling it today, quote, a disgusting abomination.
Yeah, I mean, Boris, this actually crossed while Caroline Levitt, the press secretary, was delivering her press briefing to reporters.
And I do want to pull up the tweet one more time just to show really how explosive it is.
Because Elon Musk has said he was disappointed in the bill, but this is him taking it a whole step further.
He said, I'm sorry, but I just can't stand it anymore.
This massive, outrageous, pork-filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination.
Then he goes on to tell people, shame on those who voted for it.
You know you did wrong.
You know it.
I mean, this isn't just saying I'm disappointed with the bill.
This is a full-out attack on this bill.
And so, because this came out during the briefing, Carolyn Levitt was asked about it, and here's what she said.
Look, the president already knows where Elon Musk stood on this bill.
It doesn't change the president's opinion.
This is one big, beautiful bill, and he's sticking to it.
So he's sticking to it.
But one thing that might anger the administration more than just the tweet itself has been the response to the tweet itself, particularly by Republican holdouts who have said that they also believe this bill is too big.
Moments after Musk sent this out, Senator Rand Paul, who has vocally opposed this bill, who Donald Trump spent the morning attacking, also piled on to Musk's tweet saying that he agreed with the bill.
That itself.
Adding to that kind of pushback from Republicans is likely to anger the administration more than must tweet alone.
Yeah, and Democrats actually started their weekly press conference in the United States Senate with Chuck Schumer coming forward holding the tweet from Elon Musk blown up for reporters to see as he read it aloud, arguing this is one of those rare moments where he actually agrees with Elon Musk.
But Republican leaders are really pushing back rapidly.
We heard from the House Speaker a couple of minutes ago who said he has a disagreement with Elon Musk about this, that he actually had a phone conversation with him yesterday and believes that Elon Musk isn't necessarily as opposed as he was tweeting.
Meanwhile, John Thune said this just moments ago at his weekly.
Well, look, we obviously respect everything that Elon did with Doge on this particular issue.
We have a difference of opinion.
And I think it's rooted in the fact that he's accepting the CBO assumptions.
So we have a difference of opinion.
He's entitled to that opinion.
We're going to proceed full speed again.
My hope is that as he has an opportunity to further assess what this bill actually does, that he'll come to a different conclusion.
It's a really precarious time for Senate Republicans, in part because John Thune has a Herculean task ahead of him.
He has to unite some of those hardliners who are opposed to this bill because they don't believe it goes far enough in cutting federal spending.
With some of those Republicans in his conference who have concerns that some of those spending cuts in the House bill have already been too drastic and too dramatic.
So this is really a difficult moment.
And the next couple of weeks are going to be one in which Thune is going to be really hurting.
He can only afford to lose three Republican votes on this bill.
And certainly Elon Musk's tweet does not make this any easier for him.
What do you say to Elon Musk who just called your bill a disgusting nomination?
Yeah, let me say this.
It's very disappointing, okay?
I've come to consider Elon a good friend.
He's obviously a very intelligent person, and he's done a lot of great work.
We've applauded all the work they've done with Doge in identifying fraud, waste, and abuse in the government.
It's a very important service that's been performed, and we're so excited about it, we're now in the process of codifying that.
As you all know, the administration has qualified and quantified the fraud, waste, and abuse that they found in Doge.
They're sending it to us to codify, and that's what we'll be doing with the rescissions package and the appropriations process.
And so that's something we're very excited about.
But with all due respect, my friend Elon is terribly wrong about the one big beautiful bill.
We had a long conversation yesterday.
He and I spoke for, I think, more than 20 minutes on the telephone, and I extolled all the virtues of the bill.
And he seemed to understand that.
We had a very friendly conversation about it, and I told him that we're achieving not only all of our priorities, all the promises we made on the campaign trail, all the America First agenda wrapped into this legislation, we're also achieving, the top line on this We are making a massive reduction in spending.
$1.6 trillion is the calculation.
I've said this many times.
I'll be saying it until we get this thing over the line.
This is the most amount of money that any government has ever saved on planet Earth in a piece of legislation.
Ever.
It's a very important first start.
Elon is missing it, okay?
And it's not personal.
mike johnson ▲ ● ▼
I know that the EB mandate, very important to him, that is going away because the government should not be subsidizing these things.
unidentified
It's part of the Green New Deal.
I know that has an effect on his business, and I lament that.
We talked about the ramp-down period on that and how that should be duly considered by Congress, but for him to come out and pan the whole bill is, to me, just very disappointing, very surprising, in light of the conversation I had with him yesterday.
Do you think that's Tesla's what's driving this, as I'm just suggesting?
I'm going to let others draw their own conclusions about that, but this is not personal between any of us.
I just deeply regret that he's made this mistake.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
Yeah.
Thank you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
It's Tuesday, 3 June, the year of our Lord, 2025.
To show you that, once again, Polly Pockets, 10% never get the word.
No, you would be wrong, Polly Pockets.
It is personal.
And it's up on Axios as a massive scoop from the one and only Mark Caputo.
Mark, this article is so explosive that you just wrote, I'm going to turn it over to you, but you've actually got the inside baseball.
For why Elon Musk is attacking the President of the United States, he had a couple of big asks that were turned down, and he's not happy about it.
You want to walk through the substance of your article, sir?
unidentified
Well, two people that I spoke to who have talked to Mr. Musk for a long period of time had said that over time he had a number of asks and he didn't get them, and they were big asks.
One of them was specifically in this bill, and it was the electric vehicle tax credit, and that was worth billions.
I have looked at the CBO figures.
I've looked at the various analyses.
I can't tell how many billions it saved, but it's many billions, and Tesla really wanted it.
It spent a lot of money lobbying for it, and I'm told that, contrary to what some have suggested, Elon Musk spent a good amount of time in political capital in the White House.
Trying to persuade the president and the bill writers to put this language in the legislation to save that tax credit for electric vehicle purchases.
That didn't happen.
So that was his one sort of big ask out of the one big beautiful bill that he didn't get.
Then he had the special government employee status.
He wanted it extended, I'm told.
It is set to expire, or it did expire, around May 30th.
And he was essentially told, look, there's really nothing we can do to truly extend it.
And that was one of the things that he sort of wanted to stick around.
And don't get me wrong, he also needed to take care of Tesla for a variety of reasons.
But nevertheless, that was the second thing.
A third thing, Starlink at FAA.
FAA has to revamp its air traffic control system.
And he wanted to be in line to have Starlink take it over, satellite technology, and was told, look, we need fiber optics.
And the satellite-based system is not really for air traffic control.
We can't just have it limited to that.
And also there were conflict of interest appearance problems.
And at the last minute on Saturday night, Donald Trump canceled him and said, look, I'm not going forward with this.
I'm going to pick someone new.
There's been a lot of behind-the-scenes White House intrigue over that.
Some people say it was specifically done as sort of an FU to Elon Musk.
Others denied that that's the case.
But nevertheless, it happened, and that was Musk's guy.
And so after that, people have pointed out, Musk really soured on the legislation.
Prior to that, he had sort of common criticisms that people have with the bill, which is it spends too much.
It spends too much in the tax code.
The deficits are too big.
You've played those debates.
But what really changed between now and the last time Musk issued his mild criticisms of this legislation was the NASA administrator or the suggested NASA administrator, Mr. Isaacson, or Isaac Minton, pardon me.
I got a man.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Particularly anybody who can be in a position to maybe greenlight a contract.
This is quite controversial.
Mark, if you could stick around through the break.
Sure.
We've kind of changed our programming here in the 5 o'clock because of the details of this.
I know from personal experience in the first administration how much he As you know, President Trump is not a fan of the electric vehicles and not a fan of what he considers a hoax of climate change in his full-spectrum energy-dominant policies in both the first term and the second.
I think I reinforce that.
We have Mark Caputo from Axios.
A very explosive story today on the day that Elon Musk came really viciously after the big, beautiful bill, and particularly in some of the controversial areas where the president announced, Politico announced, I think the Senate Finance Committee is going to go up or going to go over to the White House.
The president personally whipping this like he did for this historic visit to Capitol Hill to see the House, what, two weeks ago?
Short commercial break.
You're in the war room.
Mark Caputo from Axios on this massive scoop next.
unidentified
I want to pop a bubble here.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Some people are still in the chat room.
There are no doge cuts.
Let me repeat this.
And this is not USAID.
Those are programmatic things.
I'm talking about waste fraud.
Where's the fraud in Medicaid?
Where is it?
I haven't showed up with any.
Has anybody been turned over to DOJ for fraud?
The problem with Musk, and I said this from the beginning, he gave false hope to this political class who doesn't want to cut anything.
The reason, if the Big Beautiful Bill's got all these problems and it has some issues, he drove it because he promised a trillion dollars, ladies and gentlemen, one trillion dollars that got him off the hook.
It's time for everybody to grow up, run around, oh, show me where it is.
The rescission next week is $9 billion, and $2 billion, folks, is PBS and NPR.
Give me a break.
Didn't need Doge for that.
Been fighting for that one forever.
There's $7 billion in there supposedly of, I don't know, fraud.
On a $7 trillion, he committed to the president of the United States $1 trillion.
That's where the Wall Street Journal article the other day said, the president said, hey, is this all BS?
Show me the money.
He wants to talk money?
Show me what you did, bro.
This is a brutal article.
And you know why it's a brutal article, ladies and gentlemen?
Because people in the administration, not War Room, not Real America's Voice, not Breitbart, this came from sources to Mark Caputo from the administration and the White House, the West Wing.
And they're brutal.
Number one, he wanted the massive EV, which is a scam.
It's a scam to prop up the Chinese Communist Party-owned Tesla, or the joint venture in Shanghai's own, to prop it up.
That's why he needs EV.
Listen, if you want to talk like an adult, let's talk.
The FAA on Starlinks, no, they need a fiber optic.
They can't depend upon the satellite.
You need fiber optics.
Sorry, not sorry.
He wants another big government contract.
unidentified
Fanboys.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
The NASA guy, why is the NASA guy out?
Because they don't want anybody near him that's going to be doling out big contracts.
But the most brutal of all, of all these revelations, Caputo, is your second.
That he wanted to stick around.
And the White House, which doesn't do anything that President Trump doesn't approve, said, nah, we think your time is up.
Polly Pockets Johnson's wrong.
Your article is quite personal.
And it is dished by pretty senior people in the White House.
Is it not, sir?
unidentified
I think it's best to say that this is This is given to me by people who spoke to Elon Musk and have spoken to him throughout the process.
So I wouldn't necessarily describe it the way you did.
These are people who relayed rather convincingly.
What he said, when he said it, and how often he said it, and what he wanted.
And to your point about this being personal, one of the phrases I developed over the years, you always used to hear, oh, all politics is local.
All politics is personal.
And there wasn't just sort of this friction over this bill and Elon Musk not getting what he wanted out of the legislation.
But early on, he clashed with Marco Rubio and the FAA, or better said the DOT administrator, Sean Duffin.
And then he had this big blow-up, which we first reported at Axios, with Scott Besant in the White House, outside of the Oval Office, a screaming match.
One of the things I didn't report in there, which I guess we can just use as a bonus to the War Room faithful, is that during that shouting match between Elon Musk and Scott Besant, well, I think in April, Scott Besant told him, you're a fraud.
You promised $2 billion, $2 trillion in cuts.
Then it was a trillion dollars.
Then it was $500 billion.
Now it's only $150 million.
You're a fraud.
And then Elon Musk apparently shot back at him, saying that he had run, Besson had run a failed hedge fund, and on and on and on.
But that was a really personal encounter, and Besson had more allies on his side and in the cabinet, and ultimately with Donald Trump, than Elon Musk did.
Now, don't get me wrong.
Donald Trump likes Elon Musk.
They're friends.
He appreciates Elon Musk.
He admires Elon Musk, understandably so.
But, to your point, Elon Musk wore out his welcome.
That SGE, the special government employee category, lasts for, what, 130 days?
There's an advantage to that.
That's kind of like having a guest in your house for a period of time where you just know it's time for them to leave.
I don't know if you're as old as I am, maybe a little older, that old Saturday Night Live.
One of the first seasons, the thing who wouldn't leave, the guy at the party who just stays around, you want to go to sleep.
Well, that was sort of Elon Musk.
And they told him, no, you got to go.
Like, you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.
It's closing time.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Just last thing, because these are a brutal set of tweets that came out really on the eve of President Trump with the Finance Committee of the Senate.
And President Trump really working hard on this bill, big time.
unidentified
And to be clear, like CNN said it.
Yeah, pretty right.
This was, and I put in my story, this was timed to happen when Caroline Levitt, the White House press secretary, was at the podium.
This was done by Elon Musk.
Don't sell him short.
This was done to cause maximum damage and impact.
It was personal from Elon Musk.
His feelings were hurt.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
But that's my, okay, that's my point.
He did it to maximize the damage and to embarrass Caroline, the president, the White House, all of it, and make it harder.
Listen, we have problems with this bill also, but there's a way to do things.
Did he ever, in any of your reporting, have you heard that he sat down with the president or anybody and expressed it as brutally as he expressed it today about the big, beautiful bill, sir?
unidentified
I asked that question, and I was told no.
Now, obviously, he did express reservations and concerns about it.
He did want things in it that he didn't get.
And I was told that when shown the post on X from Musk, the president didn't quite roll his eyes, but sort of figuratively rolled his eyes, like, well, Elon didn't get what he wanted and, you know, sort of sour grapes.
Or, in the words of this one person who spoke to him, Elon was butthurt over it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
That's actually in the article.
This piece, Grace and Mo, if you can put it up, it's a blockbuster.
It's already going viral.
Last thing, the buried lead.
In the Wall Street Journal piece on Saturday, talked about Elon Musk actually calling and calling CEOs to go against the tariff plan.
And this is when he started calling Peter Navarro an idiot or a moron.
Have you gotten any feedback at all about that?
Because my understanding is that that made heads in the White House blow up.
President Trump's signature piece of economics, which is besides the permanent nature of the tax cuts, is to redo the commercial relationships in the world.
He's fighting for his tariffs and to know that Elon Musk actually called CEOs to kind of whip votes against it.
Any observations you've got on that or any additional information?
unidentified
I've got to give Josh Dawsey, Annie Linsky, and I can't remember the third byline on that story credit for unearthing that.
I hadn't heard that.
But you know Donald Trump better than I do.
I know him well enough.
That is the sort of thing that Trump does not like.
And that is one of the reasons, to circle back to the top of this segment, that after the 130-day SGE period had expired, they had had enough of Elon Musk and it was time to go his merry way.
Now that said, as you know, Characters are never fully written out of the script.
They can always come back.
So even if they had a terrible blowing up, which they didn't do, don't count out Elon Musk.
He's probably going to make a return.
But for now, he's sort of written out of this portion of the script.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
A plot twist.
Caputo, your reporting is unbelievable.
Your sources are unbelievable.
Keep it up.
Your Twitter, sir, and where do they go to Axios to get this story?
unidentified
Axios.com.
I think I have an author page.
It's Mark Caputo.
It's Mark with a C. There it is.
Mark A. Caputo, at Mark A. Caputo on X. And in the background there is a picture of the old Miami Herald building just before they tore it down.
I still am a Miami resident and still love my old newspaper.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
And we appreciate the fact you don't have the fan blowing your hair out like you're out sailing today.
unidentified
Well, I was working in a hot room doing construction work.
I didn't want to sweat on camera, so that was the best I could do.
Thank you, man.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Caputo, thank you so much.
Great article.
Thank you for coming on today to kick the show off.
unidentified
I appreciate you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I want everybody to read this.
Very well reported.
And on the eve of President Trump really getting down on the big, beautiful bill that's going to make it even tougher, which we'll get into some later in the show and then tomorrow.
I want to go to, do we have Ambassador Tan?
Let's go to Ambassador Tan and the two colonels.
Can you give us the latest report in Korea, sir?
Has Korea fallen officially?
unidentified
Yes.
morse h tan ▲ ● ▼
We see massive indications of election fraud.
Our view on that has not changed.
And if anything, it's only been augmented and amplified by what citizens have found.
legitimate ballots are supposed to be folded.
And when you have huge piles of pre-printed fraudulent ballots, When you have indications of shredded ballots for Kim Min-soo, that also is cause for concern.
When you have precincts that indicate that more than all the registered voters have supposedly voted, that is mathematically impossible.
Elementary school mathematics, arithmetic.
Would tell one that that is not even possible.
And so we still see massive indications of election fraud here.
This was the biggest election fraud operation in the history of South Korea.
And we do not change our view.
If anything, we see more and more indications that this was indeed a massively fraudulent election.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, hang on for one second.
Nothing could be more important than that.
And we've got to figure out, like we did in 2021, after the stolen wish in 2020, what are you going to do about it?
You know what this audience did.
You drove the guidon into a hill and said, we're going to rally around this point.
And we're never going to give up against the illegitimate Biden regime.
And eventually your countrymen started to agree with you.
Short commercial break.
We're going back to South Korea in just a moment.
unidentified
We're going back to South Korea in just a moment.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
So, Colonel Newsom, Colonel Mills, unfortunately, with our theory of the case, that's the greatest election fraud in the history of South Korea, and this election was stolen with the Chinese Communist Party and a progressive left political party in South Korea.
Didn't the conservative already concede, and did he bring up anything at all about he was going to contest this election, guys?
unidentified
Well, it appears that he did.
He did concede under election law here.
That does not preclude necessarily citizen activists from rising up and challenging massive evidence of fraud.
There was essentially a blue spike at night with dumps of ballots that were pristine.
For Lee, this was just an absolute Fulton County on steroids.
They were just pulling them out of suitcases, baskets, everywhere.
The guide on the hill is, at this time, has to be the U.S. government.
They have to make starts.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, Colonel, that's not going to happen.
So if that's what you're saying, then you guys ought to back up and come home on the next flight.
There is zero chance that happens.
Zero chance.
Just not going to happen.
If the candidate himself is not making a huge deal about it, people are not in the streets and not sitting there documenting things.
The United States government, who didn't lift a finger beforehand, is certainly not going to lift a finger now, sir.
Why would the US people do that?
unidentified
Well, Lee is still, I mean, he's in a precarious situation with two of his subordinates who have already been found guilty of giving $8 million to North Korea, which violates UN and U.S. sanctions.
They've been sanctioned subordinates.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
That may be, but that's a totally different topic.
The U.S. government is not going to, I don't think, opine on anything about this election unless – And then maybe, I mean, it shouldn't be lost anybody.
The United States government, everybody there associated was quiet on the run-up to this, were they not?
Particularly in the early voting when these discrepancies were shown, was there any movement at all for anybody to even say anything?
unidentified
Oh, the ambassador, any complaint?
Citizen activists were all over the place.
Massive reporting on this.
The citizens were just incredible.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I said with all that going on, I'm aware of that.
You guys came on the show.
You guys saw the information.
It was great.
But did the U.S. government say any official of the U.S. government at any level, either the professional diplomatic service and or any political appointees, did anybody at the time opine to that at all or say anything about it?
unidentified
Well, no, they haven't.
And I haven't heard anybody on the U.S. government side say anything since 2020, despite the evidence.
And this is simply the U.S. board policy elite and its leadership.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, I got that.
It's awful.
But Ambassador Tan, somebody's got to tell the Korean people, there's no cavalry that's going to come and save you.
You've got to save yourselves.
Are the tough people of Korea, the conservative party that I thought the entire time didn't have a lot of urgency, but like I said, I'm not there.
Are they going to have the grit to do what we did, what the MAGA movement did when President Trump had the 2020 election stolen from him and he was ushered out of the White House and went back to Mar-a-Lago and we began a long four-year journey of grinding it out every single day?
In fact, President Trump...
Are there people in Korea that have that kind of grit?
Because no one, it's pretty obvious.
The war room's there, and we're there, and we'll bring people in, Colonel Newsham and Colonel Mills.
But at the end of the day, the Korean people, some subset of the Korean people have to determine we can only save ourselves.
Do you see that happening?
morse h tan ▲ ● ▼
We have actually been inspired to see such people, as you're describing.
Steve, it's of great concern to us that it's quite possible that these very leaders may be targeted by an Lee Jae-myung administration.
I think the U.S. should take protective measures for such people in terms of opening them up.
to come to the United States if necessary to try to protect them from being targeted by an Lee Jae-myung administration.
But we've seen those who are willing to give it all to make it happen.
We've seen those who have that kind of grit and passion and determination that you're describing, Steve.
We've been blessed and privileged to meet many people like that.
And so we don't think that the Korean people, that many of them that we've encountered, are lacking in that regard.
And so know that we have personally met quite a number of people who fit the description of what you're describing.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Are you prepared to step in and help?
By the way, the Korean people have had long odds before.
In the war against Japan and then afterwards in the Korean War with North Korea and China, the great invasion there, and everything that they faced, the tension they faced, the Korean War is still not over.
So the Korean people have faced long odds before, and what they've built is quite frankly stunning when you go to the country and you see the productivity and the modern technology and what they've built in a peaceful society.
Would you be involved in helping pull that together so that some smaller group?
Would actually fight this and stick around and fight through and take their country back at the ballot box?
unidentified
Well, actually, you've got really a lot of South Koreans who have been fighting tooth and nail for the last four or five years.
And these are very respected people, lawyers, politicians, you know, who've really tried.
And most recently, after Yoon got impeached, you had a lot of young people finally waking up to And they generally are trying.
If you see it, it's impressive.
So what they need, of course, and we've noted this, they need some help.
Because otherwise you are dealing with a ruthless regime that's got really control of every lever of power.
But in terms of the South Koreans themselves, they've done this and they've faced a lot of pressure.
And they're going to continue.
So there is actually a pretty tough situation And they, you know, like beleaguered people, do need some help from outside.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
I'm just not sure it's going to come from the U.S. government, but fully understand there are outside people, ourselves and others, that want to help.
Just real quickly, tell people the reason we had this snap election is because of election fraud.
This whole thing started with President Nguyen, who had been elected.
Although with a razor-thin margin.
How did this thing kick off with his issues about election fraud that led to martial law?
Because, what, it was eight, ten weeks ago, it seems, that this entire tragedy kicked off, but it was about the topic of election fraud, was it not?
unidentified
That's what it was, and it was because in the 2020 and 2024 elections, the leftists who cheated were able to get overwhelming control of the He has no budget.
He's being impeached once a week.
And you just can't operate.
So they were using that tool, that weapon, the way the Chinese front people in Taiwan have used it recently.
And Yun felt he had no chance.
He used the expression he was in a legislative dictatorship.
And the idea was that by declaring martial law, he could wake people up and hopefully get into the NEC and look at their servers.
You didn't have enough time, I think, to get that done.
But that's what drove all this was the use of election fraud in the election.
So this is not something that just happened a few months ago, but it's been in the works by the other side for a long time.
But it was his declaration of martial law which did wake up a lot of people.
And you look at the size of those protests in support of him.
And they were immense.
And this is the thing that woke up a lot of young people as well.
One of the principal groups that's pushing this is actually led by a couple of college students who you'd think they'd probably rather be doing something else, but you'd see them in action.
And you've got to be impressed.
But this all tracks back, ultimately, I think, to election fraud and the failure of the United States government's successive administrations to understand the nature of Hardcore leftists in South Korea and what they intend to do.
We've just assumed that's just hard-nosed politics.
Nothing you can do about it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
The CCP is using political warfare.
I think they're just waking up to that.
I agree with you and you and Colonel Mills with the State Department and the professional diplomats.
Last thing, Ambassador Tan, given that they've got super majorities now in the legislature and now they have the executive branch, what is your message?
Particularly those young people, the people that went in the streets, the people that protested the throwing out, the impeachment of Yoon, that the martial law woke up, that fought and didn't succeed under massive voter fraud of what you're saying, which just reinforced what happened in 2024.
What is your message to them about how they rally to take their country back?
morse h tan ▲ ● ▼
We think that these youth who have risen up provide a glimpse of a brighter future for South Korea.
When you see their determination, their passion, the intelligence with which they are approaching this, these are all things that should give all of us optimism for a brighter future for Korea.
Give up in their struggle.
This is not the end of all things.
There are things that can be done moving forward.
And so I would only want to encourage them.
I would only want to applaud them and praise them for what they have done.
And this is not as bleak as various things look.
It is not impossible for there to be a recovery.
It is not impossible for there to be a turnaround.
And those of us who happen to believe in the sovereignty of Almighty God, we believe that there are many examples in history, which is his story, where he has done what has seemed improbable or impossible to human beings.
And if you've heard the fervency of the prayers that have been lifted up here in South Korea, I believe that God is hearing those prayers and that there should not be a plummeting into despair, but that there should be a hope in the One who is Almighty.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Magnificent.
And you've got a lot of allies here.
Guys, I want to hold you through the break.
I've got leisure, so I've got a lot to do.
But for Newsom, Colonel Newsom and Colonel Mills, Newsom, you first, and we've got about a minute.
I tell you what, I want you to answer, both of you to answer this when we get back.
The Secretary of Defense on Saturday in Singapore said with what they're looking at, these exercises have turned into rehearsals in the arrogance of the Chinese Communist Party that – Is what happened in Korea, and really a political party that's turned themselves over to be a vehicle for the Chinese Communist Party's political warfare, is this going to bring that closer to reality and sooner in time?
We're going to take a short break.
We're going to be back with Colonel Grant Newsham, author of When China Attacks.
Also, Colonel John Mills has been with us for a long time, covered Taiwan for us, and of course, Ambassador Tan.
And they've just done such a magnificent job of covering this very difficult situation in Korea.
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Short break.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, Colonel Neuchamp, the answer is, sir.
unidentified
Xi Jinping must be delighted with the outcome of this election.
Covers his left flank.
If he moves on Taiwan, the Americans are going to be distracted.
By having to pay attention to the peninsula, they're probably not going to get the Koreans to help out with the Taiwan response.
Lee has actually said, well, I'm going to let the Chinese do what they want.
I'd take him at his word there.
And then you throw in something that Mr. Putin is going to do.
You know he's going to do it.
And it's going to be a doozy, I should imagine.
You get the cover that provides the distraction.
And it looks like the time to...
And if Admiral Paparo says he's worried and the Chinese aren't doing rehearsals, I would take him at his word.
He's the guy who would have all the information, and he's pretty good.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
He's the Bull Halsey in this crowd.
John Mills, are they going to request that Americans start drawing down the combat troops?
I think 25,000 or 30,000 we've got in South Korea.
Is that going to happen?
unidentified
I think that's very possible, Steve.
The whole issue is, is it going to be a fast asphyxiation by Lee or a slow asphyxiation by Lee?
I think it's going to trend toward the faster.
He's going to move on removing U.S. forces.
And let's just face it, the U.S. force structure here is a shadow of what it used to be.
It is a pittance of what it used to be.
It's easy for them to just kind of finish it off and request essentially a termination.
treaty obligations and asks us to leave.
There may actually even be a spoiling attack by the North to further bog down the South and again secure the Chinese left flank, our right flank.
The top end of Taiwan is the better defended shoulder and this throws everything into disarray with South Korea.
So he could actually just move on asking us, directing us to leave immediately.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Colonel, you're putting up great stuff on your accounts.
Where do people go for social media, sir?
unidentified
ColonelRetJohn2, ColonelRetJohn2 on X, ColonelRetJohn on Substack, ColonelRetJohn on Substack, also Gator and Truth.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Colonel Newsham, where do people go?
unidentified
Sure, that's on X. It's at NewshamGrant and www.
GrantNewsham.com and also at Center for Security Policy.
You can find all my stuff.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Thank you.
Ambassador, where do people go for your nascent social media?
morse h tan ▲ ● ▼
MorseHtan on both X as well as Truth Social MorseTan on Facebook and LinkedIn.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Ambassador, you've got a long rocky road ahead of you.
We've got a lot of people that back you guys up and love the Korean people.
So we're always there for you.
Just tell us what we've got to do.
We've got a big audience here that fully supports the Korean people and their freedom.
So thank you, guys.
Great work.
unidentified
Thank you, brother.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Appreciate you.
We have gotten some good news today.
Liz, yours here.
Catholic News Herald.
Bishops grant requests to pause restrictions on Latin Mass until Vatican's October deadline.
How did this come about, Liz Yor?
liz yore ▲ ● ▼
Well, Steve, I don't know if it was the MAGA megaphone.
I've heard from priests and Catholics from all over the country.
They have never seen a firestorm of protest generated largely out of a war room.
But interestingly enough, what we did learn this afternoon, the bishop issued this announcement that he's going to wait till October 2nd.
But what we have just found out, and this is kind of some Vatican intrigue, I think the mega megaphone was heard in the Vatican that there were reports from Rome this morning that the Pope met with the Cardinal Roach, Arthur Roach, who is in charge of divine worship.
Cardinal Roach is the one who has been largely responsible for crushing the Latin Mass.
He personally met with Pope Leo, although we don't know what they talked about.
We get this announcement from Bishop Michael Martin this afternoon temporarily walking back his suppression of the Latin Mass.
And it could very well be that the American Pope heard from the hollering crowd from MAGA.
I wonder if Bishop Martin got a call from area code 379 in Vatican City asking him to turn down the heat on the new pope, which no doubt heard about the firestorm in I'm sure the Pope doesn't appreciate Bishop Martin ruining his papal honeymoon.
But my phone is the people in Charlotte are in an uproar.
And Steve, you know, interestingly, you know, the bishops have criticized Trump about his migration policy.
The people from the Latin Mass in Charlotte, Many of them are Hispanics with big families who are homeschooling their children, driving their children, some of whom are altar boys in the Latin Mass, an hour to attend Latin Mass.
They are just in such a fury about this.
And, you know, this is the Catholic bishops supposedly caring about the migrants, and this is how they're treated.
So I think we're going to see a huge pushback.
And I've talked to Catholics in the last 24 hours.
They're going to be mounting protests.
And I think it's time for the bishops to start looking inward with respect to the Latin Mass.
You know, the exorcists tell us, Steve, that the devil is afraid of Latin.
The devil hates Latin.
And during an exorcist, And, you know, the MAGA mothers want to educate their children in the traditional Catholic faith because they want to arm them with the tools to fight evil, to fight the devil.
And they find that in the reverent traditional Latin mass.
And these immigrants are being punished by this bishop and, frankly, punished by the Vatican, who has been hellbent on destroying the Latin mass.
We've got to continue to stay focused on this.
We've got to continue to organize.
This is one day of bragging rights, but it's certainly not a victory lap.
This is a strategic, intentional, globalist project to destroy and de-Christianize the Catholic Mass.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We've got to back off at least until October.
We've got to continue to press.
We have to press here.
Do not relent.
The folks in Charlotte, you're incredible.
Liz, where do people go for your content?
You're kind of the nexus of all this right now.
liz yore ▲ ● ▼
I'll be posting on my website, yourchildren.com, all information about who to contact in Charlotte to organize, as well as the email and phone number of the Diocese of Charlotte.
Keep it respectful.
But we have just begun to fight.
And this is, as I said last night, Steve, is the hill we're going to die on, Catholics around the world, including the underground church in China.
unidentified
Liz, we've got to bounce.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Thank you very much.
Stick around.
We're going to Tiananmen Square in Beijing.
Yes, it's that day, the 4th of June in Beijing.
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