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June 2, 2025 - Bannon's War Room

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Episode 4529: Rise Of Threat Of World War 3

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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Pray for our enemies.
unidentified		Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
		The people have had a belly full of it.
		I know you don't like hearing that.
		I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
		It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified		MAGA Media.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified		Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified		War Room.
		Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
		music
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Monday to June, year of our Lord, 2025.
		Mike Lindell's trial of the century starts in Colorado this morning.
		I think even as we speak, couldn't get Mike up this morning before he went in.
		I'm sure they're quite busy with all this in federal court.
		Also, other events out in Colorado we're going to deal with.
		Germany's here on Thursday after TASS said that they are targeting...
		I don't know what message that sends to Bibi.
		I don't know.
		Hey, we didn't know about it.
		Nobody gave us a heads up.
		Nobody gave us a heads up.
		I think the National Security Council has got to step in here.
		I don't know why Ratcliffe's saying we're not getting ready to any CIA guys.
		Something's very, very, very wrong here.
		Either, number one, if the White House didn't have a heads up, that to me should be you should condemn this attack today.
		You should say we're pulling all support today.
		You should tell Lindsey Graham, get on the plane here, dude, and get back and stop stirring the pot.
		You should put a notice to the guys in the Senate.
		We're already trading the big, beautiful bill.
		You're talking a lot of smack over the Senate.
		We're going to cut.
		Do not add any money because this is what Lindsey Graham is saying.
		The House and the Senate are going to add big dollars for Ukraine.
		Not happening.
		If we did not know about it, let's take that as his face.
		If they didn't give us a heads up on it.
		That's dragging us in it.
		They did a strike 3,000 miles into Russia.
		As we said last week, when Mertz said, oh, we got the ability to hit deep, we got sign of America supports that.
		There was no verification of that, I don't believe.
		I never saw any official verification of that.
		And there are no coincidences.
		So he says that last week, and then they hit 3,000 miles in.
		I realize everybody was thinking about it as the missiles.
		They did it in a paramilitary attack.
		Quite audacious, quite brilliant.
		Hat tip to them, but that's not about the hat tip on the tactics of doing this.
		This is hurtling up the escalatory ladder when President Trump is spending all his time trying to do the exact opposite.
		Starting to say, yo, guns down, let's figure this thing out.
		Let's get to a ceasefire, then a peace deal.
		Let's have prosperity.
		Let's have jobs and creativity and rebuilding and all that.
		As you know, in this show, we were not excited by the economic deal they did, but said, hey, if this is part of President Trump's, is this what he's doing, that prosperity is going to lead us to peace?
		Okay.
		It's a better idea than anybody else has come up with.
		This is going to drag us to, and tonight...
		Hopefully the Korean people and with the team that's been over there, that's gone over, although there was no CPAC-like kind of push, and I want to give Matt Schlapp and Posobiec and Kevin and everybody just a big hat tip on this.
		In fact, let's go to Kevin Posobiec in Warsaw.
		Kevin talks about the energy you guys provided at CPAC.
		I mean, it's like, it like Jack said, so brainly, the, the, the leaders, Talk to me about the energy, enthusiasm, and where we stand today with all that energy coming with a come from behind.
		This is like 2016 come from behind victory, sir.
unidentified		It sure is.
		It sure is, Steve.
		And I was with a lot of the people from the campaign last night, and they were parted in so much so we got kicked out by the neighbors for moving the chairs around too much.
		But listen, yeah, we were at CPAC in Jejav and then CPAC in Budapest as well.
		And the Posos have quite a bit of a reputation now over here.
		And, you know, listen, the skies are clearing over my shoulder here, over the Vistula River.
		And the globalist storm has ended.
		I'm here to report that.
		And also, you know, it's almost time to break out the accordion and the polka tap dancing shoes over here.
		You know, the energy is still building, I've got to say.
		Earlier, they were kind of pensive about, you know, especially what happened with Romania, how they stole the election there.
		So it's game on.
		It's game on.
		And, yeah, thanks to Jack and especially, yeah, CPAC and really just the connection we have to America, being able to, you know, through social media, connect to each other almost in real time now to broadcast a message of nationalism, patriotism, you know, and all that.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		They love MAGA and they love President Trump.
		Where do people get your social media, Kevin?
		Great job over there.
		Where do people find you on social media?
unidentified		You can find me on Twitter and Instagram, at Kevin Posobiec, and also at Human Events Daily.
		Yeah, so at Kevin Posobiec.
		And stay tuned.
		I'll be here for at least another day or so, rallying with the Polish Patriots.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, brother.
		We know how the Posobics can rally.
		Kevin, great job.
		Matt Schlapp, great job.
		And by the way, thank folks for letting us use the studio there.
		Fantastic shot.
		Matt Schlapp, the entire team, Mo Bannon, all of them.
		Great job.
		That's the urgency.
		I wish we had had the opportunity to do that in South Korea because that's exactly the kind of pop the South Koreans needed.
		Going to be very, very, very bad tonight if it goes the way it looks like it's going to go.
		The South Koreans hopefully will step up to the plate.
		The conservatives there.
		Because it's all on the line.
		This is going to be political warfare at its most brilliant.
		The CCP has taken a long time to work this strategy through.
		They actually have the control of a political party that looks like it's on the cusp of winning at the ballot box.
		And when I say ballot box, there's already massive discussion about election fraud already as we talked about as we've had our Korean team on for the last couple of days.
		Boone Cutler.
		You and General Flynn came out with that great book about 5G warfare, the next generation of actually the warfare that's going on, fifth generation warfare.
		How does everything you see unfolding right now fit into you and General Flynn's theory of the case, sir?
unidentified		I think you're seeing it all over the place.
		I think you're seeing it with the AI.
		I mean, just like you said earlier, this, you know, That is the currency.
		That is the fuel.
		That is the powering apparatus of today's world is going to be those AI chips.
		Right now, Taiwan, they've got like $500 billion worth of chips there now, not to mention another $500 billion in infrastructure that the CCP can grab at any given time and deny us that access.
		That's a big point with this fifth generation warfare.
		The political warfare you've spoken about in South Korea right now, huge aspect.
		The United States is not doing enough political warfare against our adversaries.
		We're simply falling asleep at the wheel.
		We need to get into the game against the political warfare via, specifically, the Department of Defense in mainland China.
		We need to start going after the CCP that way.
		We need to activate the people inside mainland China that are willing to stand up against the government.
		We need to go to these depths that we've gone in the past when we were fighting major adversaries.
		And we didn't hold back.
		And you brought up earlier that I think was a very, very good point about the deep state interference within our own government that's preventing us from taking action.
		And I think the best way to get really down to brass tacks and to solve that issue is to bring General Flynn back as National Security Advisor, because this president needs a wartime consigliere, and there is nobody better than General Mike Flynn.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask you, there is a wing of the MAGA movement, right, that would say, yo, Boone, your whole thing about regime change and getting into the – look, we're the biggest believers you've got of regime change in China because the CCP is not legitimate, and it was propped up by the American government that turned it over to them in 1949.
		And again, Bush 41 and Scowcroft and this crowd had their back in Tiananmen Square.
		And by the way, we're going to do our traditional – A Tiananmen activity starting Tuesday night at 6 p.m.
		And we'll be live.
		We'll have a live shot at dawn as it breaks over Beijing.
		And then we'll continue on the 4th with our commemoration of Tiananmen.
		But there are people, Boone, that say, hey, look, all this activity around Persia that you guys are all trying to run around, Flynn's always trying to run around and get these dissonants to overthrow the government, the China.
		This is exactly why.
		We're wrapped around the axle.
		It's one of the reasons we got a trillion dollar defense budget because you guys are neocon light.
		You don't want to go on guns blazing, but you're still getting us involved in situations we shouldn't be involved in.
		Your response, Boone Cutler.
unidentified		My response is this.
		If you're in the middle of a fight, does it matter if you win or does it matter how you got there?
		I think it matters more that you win, but not necessarily how you got there.
		And when you're talking about geopolitics, you're talking about prison rules.
		It can't just be everything done with a feather.
		Sometimes you have to have a hammer, and sometimes that hammer needs to be non-attributable.
		So when I talk about going into different countries and regime change, and I know General Flynn is probably on the same sheet of music.
		These aren't countries that we're trying to go in and do regime change in because we simply don't like that regime, because we don't like how they treat their people, and because we're going to stick our nose in it.
		No, these are countries that are viable threats to the United States and to our way of life, and the way the wars are waged is in this way.
		They do it to us.
		You've seen it in our own country where they've had uprisings that have been foreign influenced.
		We do it to them.
		Everybody does it to everybody.
		This is the way the game is played.
		So I would say to those folks, God bless you.
		You're good people.
		And I understand why you believe the way you believe.
		But when we're talking about war and when we're talking about protecting our country, if someone is a threat, you eliminate the threat.
		That's how you keep food on your table.
		That's how you keep gas in your car.
		That's how you make sure your kids get through college and start off with a very nice life.
		This is the way things are done.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Boone, talk to me about, are you concerned about flashpoints here in the United States of what you're seeing here recently?
unidentified		Biggest thing I'm worried about is China's presence in the United States, and not just politically, because China does have a presence in the United States politically, but also their physical presence.
		I mean, everything that just happened in Russia with these drones, people have got to start looking very hard about this land that's owned by the CCP around our military installations.
		They could launch that same type of attack right here, not to mention all those all those counterfeits.
		Every one of those container ships could be launching the same type of thing.
		Now, I like the idea of the Golden Dome, but these things that I'm talking about would be working underneath the Golden Dome because they quite possibly might already be here.
		And if we're having these intelligence failures with things that are happening there, And that's why I'm advocating that General Flynn needs to get in there.
		If there's one guy that's not going to be taken by the deep state, if there's one guy who absolutely knows how to get down to brass tacks and start cleaning things out, it's not just General Mike Flynn, but it's also General Charlie Flynn.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		As a matter of fact, I want to just talk about Charlie Flynn's, General Flynn's, the other General Flynn's testimony.
		Last week, because we're going to talk about the third island chain tonight as we go to Korea.
		We're going to start with Cleo Pascal in the 6 o 'clock hour.
		Booney, can you hang around for a second?
		We also got Ben Harnwell in Rome.
		Rudy's going to join us.
		We got so much to break down.
		The big, beautiful bill.
		I'll be doing that.
		Also, Mike Davis.
		Big article in the New York Times.
		How President Trump's tariffs were undone in the federal court system.
		Wait for it.
		By an amicus brief filed by conservative lawyers, the Federalist Society rears its ugly head in coming after populist nationalist economic policy as driven by a guy named President Donald John Trump.
		He can't make this stuff up.
		Unbelievable.
		We're going to get to all that in the 5 o 'clock hour and break down some economics.
		Rudy's going to join us here in a moment.
		Commemoration about the great Bernie Carrick.
		Also, I'm going to get Rudy's opinion on what's happening.
		Nobody knows geopolitics better than Rudy.
		Short commercial break.
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unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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		Ben Harnwell, you're telling me there's a news break coming out of Turkey?
		What is it, sir?
		I thought we were making peace today.
		I thought they were going to sit there.
		I thought Erdogan put this together to cut a deal, sir.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Morning, Steve.
		You know, perhaps that's what the mainstream media would have liked to have believed.
		So basically today in Istanbul, Constantinople, there was the second round of these peace talks hosted by the Turkish government.
		The first round was a couple of weeks ago and it produced the largest exchange of prisoners of war from the two sides, the Russians and the Ukrainians.
		And the mainstream media was hyping this meeting that started today, all of last week.
		I didn't have high hopes for it, really because you really need the Russians to be present there with at least someone of the level of Sergei Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister.
		He wasn't there.
		President Putin sent an aide, I think Vladimir Medensky, just a presidential aide.
		It was hosted by the Turkish foreign minister.
		The Umarov, the Ukrainian foreign minister, was there.
		But without the Russians, it was just performative.
		See, my point on this is very simple.
		Okay, my synthesis of this.
		By all accounts, the talks were wrapped up with an exchange of memoranda from the two sides, which could have been done by email.
		There was no need for physical presence.
		The meeting itself, I gather, lasted about 45 minutes, and there was without conclusions.
		My point, Steve, is this, right?
		Yesterday, as you've been discussing in the first half of the show, Zelensky launched this very successful and brilliant drone attack on the Russian strategic warplanes.
		He's been planning on this for 18 months.
		Why did he launch this the day before he was supposed to sit down for these peace talks?
		This is something already the media is starting to call the Russian Pearl Harbor because, Steve, the guy is not interested in peace.
		That's my takeaway on the timing of this.
		Vladimir Zelensky is not interested in peace.
		He can't come out and say it because the Western media would lacerate him.
		He has to pretend to be totally interested in peace and push the narrative that it's Putin.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		He said it on the eve of peace talks or ceasefire talks.
		He takes the Japanese role in the Pearl Harbor, the sneak attack.
		And listen, I'm not saying it's audacious, brilliant.
		Courageous.
		You can say all those things.
		It was all those.
		But, President Trump, we're trying to have guys lay down their weapons and say, let's figure out how we get prosperity.
		We signed an economic deal that we hate, right, and ties yourself somewhat with these guys.
		President Trump did that because that's his theory of the case.
		We're going to create prosperity, and through prosperity, all boats rise, and we can put our guns down.
		He just told the world he's not interested in peace.
		He doesn't need a synagogue.
		I'm not interested in peace.
		You know what he does?
		Sends a couple hundred drones to take out their strategic bombers, Ben Hornwell.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Look, I'm going to dissent ever so slightly from the analysis that you were chewing over with Possa earlier on in the show.
		And the reason is I never overestimate the competence of any government branch, at least alone the intelligence agencies.
		So it is quite possible for me...
		My takeaway on that is that is even more terrifying.
		But it just goes to show the point, Steve, here.
		The point here.
		You were talking about how they're cooperating together in Wiesbaden, in Germany.
		They're seeing one another.
		The US and the Ukrainians are sitting down every day.
		They're in the same mess hall.
		They're dining.
		They're gossiping.
		They're talking.
		They're planning.
		They're doing the strategy and the Ukrainians didn't even have the courtesy to give the Americans and you guys are financing financing all of this.
		They didn't even have the courtesy to give you guys a head up.
		Steve, this just illustrates the point that is so essential here that we said again and again, you just hinted at it that POTUS.
		Pacific as they are, are not going to succeed.
		All it will succeed in is getting the US drawn in to a formal kinetic element of this Third World War.
		Let me close on this point.
		Let me close on this point.
		President Trump, even if he were to negotiate peace between these two sides, there's no thank you in it for him.
		he won this election campaigning on getting the united states out within the 20 the first 24 hours you guys are still in right and if you are dragged further in right if you guys are dragged further in i'm gonna say you're going to have a storm in the midterms uh next year that is where your attention that is where america's attention needs to be on the midterms of of next year I disagree with you on that.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I disagree with you on that.
		I think you've got to take care of the here and now, and then later on we'll take care of it.
		Right now, if you're in Tel Aviv, if you're a BB in that crowd there, and you don't see, and the word is out that we didn't know anything about it, and it's not condemned, and all support is pulled immediately until Lindsey Graham get on a plane and keep your mouth shut, unfollowing and sore, you're going to get over here, you're not going to stir the pot anymore.
		If I'm BB, I'm going out and saying, hey, let's rev the planes up, let's roll, baby.
		What's good for Zelensky is good for what's good for Kiev is good for Tel Aviv.
		Let's roll.
		Let's hit it.
		We don't need to give the Americans a heads up.
		We don't need to give them a fare thee well.
		Rudy Giuliani.
		Ben, stick around.
		Rudy, you know Ukraine better than anybody.
		They mocked and ridiculed you and dragged you through courts and all this, tried to put you in bankruptcy because you're expose of Ukraine.
		How big a deal is this?
		And when President Trump's trying to get peace, You have a deep state faction, but more importantly, you have the Ukrainians.
		They're saying, screw you.
		Here's what we think of your peace proposal.
		We're going to give the Russians a taste of Pearl Harbor, sir.
unidentified		Well, you know, this was an audacious attack.
		I imagine this has to be the biggest one they've accomplished, certainly the deepest into Russia, because up until now, up until the end of Biden, he wouldn't let them.
		Go any more than about 10 miles into Russia.
		And of course, the statement is we didn't know about it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is the biggest hit into Russia since the Wehrmacht was rolling in 41 and 42, 43. That's really true.
		The United States, we never hit these guys.
		The Chinese and these guys all fought out in Siberia when they held past the Ural Mountains.
		This was 3,000 miles in to the strategic bombers.
		Curtis LeMay.
		In his wildest fantasies, never thought of doing anything like this, sir.
unidentified		The point that it wasn't known by the administration, I don't believe is correct.
		I believe we have plausible deniability because we haven't heard...
		You're hearing no noise.
		You're just hearing, oh, we didn't know about it.
		We didn't know about it.
		It's like, how often have we denied that Israel has nuclear weapons?
		I mean, for a long time, we were denying that.
		The reality is, this happened with some kind of undercover approval.
		It was too big an attack.
		And as you say, it's the biggest attack into Russia.
		Since the war, Russia's attack in the Ukraine is the biggest attack since the war.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Hang on, hang on.
		Yo, Rudy, hang on.
		If we gave tacit approval, I guess we're not that serious about a Russian rapprochement.
		This is not sending a drone in to hit some Wagner group, guys.
		This is not sending a drone in even to hit around Kursk.
		This is not sending a couple of drones in because the Russians are hitting them.
		They hit the biggest assault, I think, on the Saturday night or Friday night.
		The Russians are hitting them with drone attacks.
		But for us to have a rapprochement, if we had tacit approval, does that help our position?
		Do the Russians sit there and go, okay, we should work something out with the Americans away from the Chinese?
		Or does it show, hey, the Americans now, more than ever, are using their proxy in Ukraine to attack our strategic bombing forces, something Curtis LeMay never did, brother?
unidentified		Well, you know, President Trump gave him plenty of time to show that he was going to be reasonable.
		I think the president laid a tremendous groundwork for this.
		You're not going to see too many people complaining about this, if any.
		Look at all the time he gave him, all the opportunities.
		Putin put out demands that were ridiculous.
		He wanted more in the peace negotiation than he actually gained in war.
		He wanted all the territory that he has.
		Plus, the territory he hasn't gotten, more of it, to fill out those provinces.
		Because in each one of the provinces, well, three of the four, he only has about two-thirds of them.
		The other one-third, Ukraine holds on to.
		And the president was going into this thinking we were going to negotiate for some territory back from them.
		And I imagine he's thinking about the territory where the Russians have some of the precious minerals that we want.
		About two-thirds of the minerals are in Ukraine land.
		About one-third are in the land controlled by Russia.
		You know the president wants to get his hands on some of that.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Rudy, can you hang on for a second?
		I'm going to hold you through the break.
		Boone Cutler, Ben Harnwell.
		Rudy joins us.
		We're going to talk about the great Bernie Carrick here in a moment.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		So, Rudy, talk to me if you can.
		I don't know if you're allowed to, given your tangles with these guys.
		How important is this trial out in Colorado?
		Mike Lindell decided not to settle.
		He's kind of bet the company in doing this.
		What are your thoughts?
unidentified		Well, he's got a very, very good defense.
		There's always a question in...
		The statements were statements of opinion, not direct facts, which takes it out of the realm of defamation right away.
		Somehow that doesn't get applied if a case involves someone that's close to Trump.
		Should have been dismissed originally.
		So now we have to see how a jury is going to treat them, right?
		I mean, unfortunately, I've learned to analyze cases differently than I did, you know, when I was, well, even five years ago.
		You can't just look at the merits of the case.
		You have to look at the judge has been extremely unfair in this case.
		And we're in a democratic stronghold, but not like D.C. or New York.
		So I think Mike's got a good chance here.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Unbelievable.
		Rudy, hang on for a second.
		We've got more to talk to you about geopolitics.
		And of course, we want to talk about the great Bernie Carrick who left us late last week.
		Boone Kotler, Boone, I just want to reiterate something you said that the war room, engine room, and I know the posses all worked up about and want to hear more from you.
		This whole situation about the CCP, that if Ukraine can do that 3,000 miles into Russia, The CCP can do the exact same thing here in the United States of America.
		Why do you say that?
		You talk about cargo ships.
		You talk about farmland.
		Just put a little meat on that bone for a second, sir.
unidentified		Well, you put a little meat on that bone, you see there's a lot of containers that are coming from those cargo ships all around the United States.
		You're looking at area that is occupied by the CCP in the United States around military installations.
		I don't think that's an accident.
		And I think that's on purpose.
		And if I was going to, you know, neutralize the nuclear threat in the United States, I would do it in that sort of way, which would give them clear clarity.
		So I think these things are very, very viable.
		I know unrestricted warfare is being utilized by the CCP.
		This would be in that playbook.
		The other thing in that playbook, the easy stuff.
		I mean, look what they've got going on in our country in agriculture.
		Look what they've got going on in our country.
		I mean, my goodness, we buy our medication from the CCP.
		We need to decouple from the CCP and we need to get them out of our country immediately because we are making ourselves targets and we're doing it willingly.
		That needs to stop.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		For money.
		Boone, where do people go to get the book you and General Flynn wrote, your social media, podcast, all of it?
		Where do folks go?
unidentified		You can find the Citizen's Guide to Fit Generation Warfare series anywhere books are sold online or at generalflynn.com.
		You can find me at x at Boone Cutler, and I'm happy to talk to anybody.
		Thanks for having me on today.
		That's the wrong page right there, by the way.
		That's got the underscore.
		You'll see me standing, my feet are on a, you'll see my Crocs if you find the right one.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Crocs.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We're looking forward to that.
		Thank you, brother.
		Appreciate you.
		We won't miss those.
		Thank you, brother.
		Ben Harnwell, any thoughts, observations before we let you punch out, sir, on this ongoing now?
		Ukrainians are going up the escalatory ladder.
		It's the exact moment when President Trump wants to come down the escalatory ladder and cut a deal.
		It's either with the help of the deep state.
		And or they're hiding that information from the president, although Rudy says that very smartly they're not making a big deal about it because they want plausible deniability.
		Ben Harnwell, your thoughts on this metastasizing situation between Ukraine and Russia, sir?
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Steve, you said earlier that the White House should come out and make a statement on this, and I think it should.
		I should make a very clear statement.
		I also think, referring to this story from last week about the new German Chancellor, Friedrich Mertz, saying that America had lifted its range-limiting inhibitions on those long-range ATAKMS missiles that the US had provided to Ukraine, I think a statement on that should still...
		I don't understand how we haven't had a clarifying statement on that.
		And if you and Jack Posobiec and Rudy Giuliani are correct, and the US intelligence services were informed, I think people need to...
		Because they don't want to see America being dragged in.
		And that is exactly what's happening.
		There's no way you can look at this event over the weekend, which, as I say, the media are already starting to call the Russian Pearl Harbor, and not fear for the safety and security of the United States moving forward.
		There's no possible interpretation of these events that will...
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Basically challenging President Trump.
		He's saying, hey, the House and the Senate are going to have their own thing.
		We're going to have a package.
		Lindsey Graham is 100% against President Trump's foreign policy.
		Lindsey Graham is the biggest neoliberal neocon in the Senate.
		He's worse than McConnell.
		He's the one stirring up the pot in Israel.
		He's the one stirring up the pot in Kiev.
		He wants bombers.
		He wants bombers heading in right now.
		And he just shows it right there.
		That's 180% out from the president.
		Ben, thanks for joining us.
		Social media, where do people go to get all your blinding insights?
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		On getter, Steve.
		Just simply tap in my surname at Harnwell.
		Let me close with this point about Senator Graham, please.
		I differ from you on just one point.
		On one point, I wouldn't summon him back to the United States.
		I would pick the phone to Christy Noem and say, cancel his passport.
		Don't let him back into the United States.
		If he loves it so much over there, let him stay there.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I agree with you, sir.
		Better.
		Always better.
		You always make things better, Ben.
		One more time, social media.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		On Getter at Harnwell.
		Thanks, Steve.
		God bless.
		Catch up with you later.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
		By the way, New York Post is going to be having a big story this afternoon.
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		Rudy, I want to get to Bernie quickly, but just give me your advice this morning in the Oval Office to President Trump would be what, sir?
unidentified		Pardon me, Stu?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		What advice would you give President Trump in the Oval Office if you were talking this morning about this situation with Russia?
unidentified		Well, I would say, if I'm right, it's been played just absolutely right.
		We're not doing a lot of complaining this morning.
		You also note that this was a one-year operation.
		It can't be that we missed a one-year operation planning something as sophisticated as this.
		So I think this is a way of hitting Putin really hard.
		He knows, of course, that Zelensky's not going to do this without Trump's approval.
		And it still maintains the ability for Putin and Trump to communicate with each other.
		If this doesn't work, I think Putin is going to look at a lot worse than this.
		And also they're calling it the Russian Pearl Harbor.
		Hardly the Russian Pearl Harbor.
		We weren't attacking Japan for two and a half years before they hit us.
		We didn't attack Japan at all.
		I mean, they've been hitting Ukrainian cities and killing Ukrainian babies.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		But hold it.
		It is the Russian Pearl Harbor.
		Because what happened to Pearl Harbor?
		What did Yamato say on the deck and the bridge of the carrier?
		He said, hang on, hang on.
		He said, we've awakened a sleeping giant.
		What happened at that?
		It ended with the firebombing of Tokyo, ended with the firebombing of every major city.
		It burned them to the ground and then dropped a couple of nukes on them so that we didn't have to invade and broke them.
		Yeah, so let's say it is the Pearl Harbor.
		How did that end for the attacking forces?
		Not well.
		Okay, not well.
		Rudy, talk to me about Bernie Carrick.
		He was America's cop.
		You were America's mayor.
		We just lost one of the great ones, one of the great MAGA patriots.
		Tell me about Bernie.
unidentified		This was a really exceptional American, an exceptional patriot, a guy that was there just at the right time.
		I probably know that better than anyone because he was instrumental in saving my life and 40 other people that were trapped in a building.
		For 30 minutes, right after the first building came down, I was in a building.
		He had set up the communication so we could get to the White House.
		I had actually gotten through, gotten a little information from one of the staff members, and I was waiting for a call back from Vice President Cheney when all of a sudden our building got rocked like it was an earthquake.
		Everybody went under the table.
		We were stuck in the building for 30 minutes, had to really do a lot of moving around through rubble and to find a way out into another building.
		And Bernie's inability to be frightened about anything sure helped to keep everyone under control because we had some pretty nervous people.
		And then we went right out into...
		And he was leading the pack.
		Now, I have to say, all throughout, he was at my side.
		Cool head, understood what to do.
		Natural instinct for law enforcement.
		And before that, he reduced violence in Rikers Island by 90%.
		Documented by 60 minutes, if anybody wants to ever question it.
		And he reduced violence in New York City by as much or more than my two previous police commissioners who were considered to have done things that were impossible.
		We eventually reduced crime altogether more than any city in the history of America.
		So this was a...
		And I talked to him on the phone.
		And I would hear gunshots in the background.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Rudy, hang on for one second.
		Just hang on for one second.
		We'll hold to a break.
		America's mayor, Rudy Giuliani, the greatest mayor in the history of New York, talking about his wingman, the police commissioner, Bernie Kerrigan.
		Back in a moment.
unidentified		With each agency bringing unique authorities and expertise.
unidentified		HSI special agents will continue a whole-of-government approach to take the fight to transnational criminal actors and organizations who poison our communities, who exploit and victimize our children.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Homan and Kristi Noem are taking the fight to the enemy, particularly these places that are sanctuary states, sanctuary cities.
		They're saying that day's over.
		They're going to be rolling people up.
		Rudy, give me your thoughts on how you think DHS is doing now in working.
		You see right there, they've got U.S. attorneys, they've got the local people.
		We've just had the situation in Texas trying to get the sheriffs involved.
		How do you think Homeland Security doing on the deportations?
unidentified		I think they're doing miracles, even with all the judicial interference, which is almost historic in nature.
		I mean, 80 or 90 judges have gotten involved, acting like they're judges for the entire United States, as opposed to just their district.
		But with that, we're deporting a large number of people every day.
		And most importantly, nobody's coming in.
		And that's not just our security at the border.
		That's the deterrent effect that we've sent all over the world.
		It's not a happy thing coming into the United States now.
		Before, you were being escorted by our people.
		Unfortunately, our Border Patrol became an escort service for drug dealers, rapists, murderers.
		Now, we keep them out, and when we get them, they may go to El Salvador.
		So, never discount the turn effect.
		Where the criminal war is involved.
		It's really at the basis of why we have so much crime in all these democratic cities.
		Nobody's afraid.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's been a tremendous deterrent.
		This is why the borders closed.
		Before you bounce, you and Bernie, during the attack on New York City, really gave the country a level of comfort that people were actually in charge of getting things done and sort this mess out.
		But over the last 10 years or so, as you particularly become involved with President Trump, and Bernie did too, became one of the stalwarts of the MAGA movement, walk me through how Bernie had your back in this entire time.
		Because, you know, Bernie and Eric Prince were the two guys that escorted me up to the prison, actually to the entry hall of the prison in Danbury.
		And the prison people were like sitting there and got America's biggest mercenary and Eric Prince and America's biggest hammer.
		How did Bernie have your back over the last couple of turbulent years for Rudy Giuliani?
unidentified		It meant the world to me.
		I mean, even on September 11, I described it as I was standing on the shoulders of giants.
		And I meant him, my fire commissioner, and my head of emergency services.
		They weren't afraid of anything.
		And here I've been going through, you know what, what you've been going through.
		And Bernie's been right there every minute trying to figure everything out.
		When I had to go report in Fulton County into the worst jail in the country, Bernie figured it all out, told me how to handle it, what to do, what was going to happen.
		I mean, they put us through like a little bit of a...
		We went past about five lines of inmates.
		And the funniest thing is they applauded for us.
		They weren't expecting that.
		They were hoping that we would get things thrown at us.
		Bernie had us ready for the whole thing.
		And in case bail was denied, what we would have to do.
		And having him there, you know what it's like.
		You know Bernie.
		Having him there.
		Just makes you more confident, makes you braver.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This week, the funeral is going to be, it's going to be, I think, I don't know if it's been announced yet, but official commissioner's type.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		And I take it you're going to give one of the eulogies since at the most important inflection point, he was there with you as your wingman?
unidentified		It'll be at St. Patrick's, 10 o 'clock on Friday.
		And that is going to be a traditional, what we call a commissioner's funeral, which the highest level funeral New York City can give.
		It'll be the same a mayor would have.
		And Mayor Adams has been more than generous and kind in the way in which he's taking care of the family.
		They are in shock.
		And when the police commissioner personally gets involved to help them, it means life.
		You should know that Bernie and Mayor Adams were friends way back when they were cops together.
		And it remained through all of the different political machinations.
		And when I became, one of the reasons I picked him was because we had gone through two or three demonstrations about police shootings.
		And Bernie was able to really solve a lot of the problems in terms of the disconnect between the black community and the police department.
		And in the last couple of years of my administration, although we had had some bad times at the beginning, we had some very good relations.
		And a lot of that had to do with his close personal relationship with Adams, who endorsed me for mayor way back then.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is the middle of a tough fight.
		We're also going to cover this, the funeral wall-to-wall coverage, as only the boardroom can.
		Rudy, podcast, your show on Lindell TV, all your social media, where do people go, America's Mayor?
unidentified		Well, we're on at 7 tonight on Lindell TV, and we'll be covering some of Mike's trial.
		And then I'm on at 8 on X, which is America's Mayor Live that's been on now for three or four years.
		It's really done very, very well.
		And thanks to our people who are so loyal.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		No, you've got a great audience.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Social media, where do people go on X or Getter to get you, sir?
unidentified		Yep, it's on Rumble.
		It's on Getter.
		It's on Wendell.
		It's on YouTube.
		I don't know how, but it's on YouTube.
		But you know.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, brother.
		Appreciate you.
		Rudy Giuliani, the mayor, knows more about Ukrainian geopolitics than anybody alive.
		I'm not sure.
		I think General Flynn and I may disagree slightly with Rudy's take on the White House, but we'll get Rudy on back during the week.
		A lot more unfolding here.
		President Trump, the kinetic part of the Third World War, only got more dangerous over the weekend as America, every second, is inexorably sucked in to a broader conflict.
		On the Eurasian landmass.
		And tonight we'll be live in Korea to talk about the political warfare that will turn one of our greatest allies over to the Chinese Communist Party in political warfare.
		Charlie Kirk is next.
		Poso after that.
		We're back here 5 p.m. tonight live on Real America's Voice.
		The War Room.

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