May 22, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| You know what, Maria? | ||
| Cash is not kidding. | ||
| We've been personally briefed extensively on every single detail, nugget, tendril of this case. | ||
| One is actively in court right now, so out of respect for the case, it's probably more appropriate that I stay quiet on that. | ||
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However... | |
| I'm not going to tell people what they want to hear. | ||
| I'm going to tell you the truth. | ||
| And whether you like it or not is up to you. | ||
| If there was a big explosive there, there, right? | ||
| Given my history as a Secret Service agent and my personal friendship as a director does with the president, give me one logical, sensible reason we would not have... | ||
| If you can think of one, there isn't. | ||
| There isn't... | ||
| In some of these cases, the there you're looking for is not there. | ||
| And I know people... | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| It's not there. | ||
| If it was there, we would have told you. | ||
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You said Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide. | |
| People don't believe it. | ||
| Well, I mean, listen, they have a right to their opinion, but as someone who has worked as a public defender, as a prosecutor, who's been in that prison system, who's been in the Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing, you know a suicide when you see one, and that's what that was. | ||
| He killed himself. | ||
| Again, you want me to... | ||
| I've seen the whole file. | ||
| He killed himself. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | ||
| Thursday, 21 May, year of order, 2025. | ||
| By the way, we're going to work through the bill. | ||
| We're going to get organized. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| Look, one of the things that jumps out at me, there's no tax on Social Security. | ||
| Didn't see that. | ||
| I missed that. | ||
| They've got a little relief, and I think it works out to $500. | ||
| We'll figure it all out. | ||
| But this thing's got to go through it. | ||
| We're going to get organized. | ||
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So just keep digging. | |
| But this thing's a long way from over. | ||
| Alex Jones joins me. | ||
| We've got a lot to go through today, Alex, and I want your thoughts on kind of where we stand. | ||
| But if you look at President Trump's trying to end the kinetic part of the Third World War... | ||
| Right? | ||
| You know, from Russian rapprochement to the situation in Ukraine, which is part of that, to Israel wants to bomb the Persians like tomorrow night. | ||
| President Trump's trying to lay hands on all that. | ||
| You've got the big, beautiful bill has the $170 billion in it, I think, for $150 billion to deport the 13 million illegal aliens here that the courts are forcing us into a constitutional crisis of which we're hurtling towards. | ||
| And then if you look in the middle, if you look at the, you know, redoing all the commercial relationships in the world and how the budget is and how it's going to be financed, all of it. | ||
| Of course, the bond market's not exactly high-fiving us right now, but people were going to work through all this. | ||
| The one aspect that's continued to concern me, and now you've got this whole Biden situation, is that whole other thing of taking down the administrative state, which Doge started, right? | ||
| Although the Congress has still not codified the cuts and the ways for our abuse. | ||
| But even more importantly, it's taking on the deep state. | ||
| Now, two close friends of yours and mine and colleagues and people that we respect and pushed hard for this job, Dan Bongino and Kash Patel, two of the best of the best. | ||
| You know, I couldn't understand when I saw that until I read your text and said, it looked like a hostage video. | ||
| And I go... | ||
| Alex Jones nailed it again. | ||
| That's exactly what it is. | ||
| In fact, I went back to make sure that Dan and Cash were not blinking their eyes and I missed the Morse code. | ||
| What's going on, brother? | ||
| You've been working this beat for a long time. | ||
| What is your assessment right now of how... | ||
| Because I tell you, when they steal it in 28 and they're going to try to steal it in 28, everybody's going to prison unless this deep state's taken apart because these people are vicious. | ||
| Where do you think we stand right now on coming up on Memorial Day weekend four or five months into the second term here, sir? | ||
| On the broad strokes of policy, winning the trade war, ending our long surrender to the globalist system, effectively getting us out of the World Trade Organization, taking our power back, really starting to wind down these planetary... | ||
| Wars that threaten our very existence, on securing the border, on getting trillions of dollars of investment to come in, on relaunching love of our country, on stopping the globalist demoralization of the population. | ||
| When it comes to yesterday with this South African racist president who claims he doesn't know anything about targeting white farmers or killing or protecting their land, and then just showing it all in his face. | ||
| I mean, this is a master class. | ||
| But when it comes to the infrastructure and the bureaucracy and the permanent state, I would give Trump a C-, but that's because of how dug in it is and how hard these people are fighting back and how arrogant they are, but also because it's an existential threat for them if we continue to win. | ||
| So we're winning, but in the first 123 days or so, 24 days, You see that massive momentum starting to slow in some areas, and that's very, very concerning. | ||
| And we see Moody's trying to lower the U.S. credit rating and then trying to lower U.S. bank credit rating because the globalists are so desperate to stop Trump's incredible so-far victories and getting most of the planet to realign with us. | ||
| It's just not about trade, obviously. | ||
| It's about alliances ending the neoliberal. | ||
| Globalist order. | ||
| That'll never get back into power again. | ||
| But in pockets around the world, like here in the U.S., if they're able to at least get control of the executive branch again, they are going to not just come for Steve Bannon and Donald Trump and his family and Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson. | ||
| They're going to come for the entire country as they've said they would do. | ||
| And as they were going to do, they were able to put Kamala in. | ||
| So this is really an existential threat, as you said. | ||
| And I really like Dan Bongino. | ||
| I really like Kosh Patel. | ||
| But recent statements that, oh, Jeffrey Epstein killed himself when it would take an hour to go over the evidence. | ||
| Obviously, he didn't. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Neck broken three times. | ||
| That's the coroner. | ||
| And all the rest of it, cameras turned off on and on and on. | ||
| And then to add insult to injury, oh, and we've seen all the evidence from Butler and Crooks, and it's open and shut. | ||
| Nothing else happened here. | ||
| Bare minimum, Secret Service stand down. | ||
| The FBI trying to cover up the investigation until caution and... | ||
| Bongino got in, and then there's so many facets to it. | ||
| I've interviewed the private investigators that have been on the ground, very respected, I've known for decades, like Hagman, where they got threatened on the ground by FBI to get out of here when they were there for months. | ||
| So we know the whole background of Crooks and his house being basically completely clean, no utensils, nothing. | ||
| His phone being at this law enforcement training center with the geolocation being around the FBI building. | ||
| I mean, he's on top of the building. | ||
| Taking the shot for 10 minutes with people saying, shooter, shooter, shooter, shooter. | ||
| Nothing being done. | ||
| You got Mangino for months and months and months in July rightfully saying this is a cover-up. | ||
| And then 180. | ||
| And then the body language. | ||
| Which almost makes it enduring when they're being deceptive, and we all know they are, for whatever reason. | ||
| They look like, in fact, I was gonna say that, like in the Korean War or in the Vietnam War conflicts, when they would shoot down our fighter pilots or fighter bombers, and then the famous cases of them doing Morse code when they'd been tortured and forced to say horrible things about America and their mission. | ||
| They were Morse coding torture, torture, torture. | ||
| Younger generations won't know what Steve was talking about, but I'm old enough to remember that. | ||
| And so that's where we are. | ||
| And so I don't want to cry foul on these guys. | ||
| I'm a big booster of the administration. | ||
| I'm giving them time. | ||
| You know, you can always get clicks if you sit there and criticize things. | ||
| A lot of folks do that. | ||
| We've seen in the Biden situation, you've seen the Praetorian Guard where they had this information in 2019 on the laptop from hell. | ||
| We had Rudy on here. | ||
| I was on the laptop from hell team that pushed it out. | ||
| They had it. | ||
| Ray and Barr had it in November of 19. They wanted Biden. | ||
| That's what they're protecting. | ||
| You've done more than anybody to describe the elements of DOD, CIA, DNI, Department of Justice, FBI, elements of DHS. | ||
| And HHS have formed a cabal of a Praetorian Guard of a deep state. | ||
| It exists. | ||
| It's categorical. | ||
| To the degree, it's C-. | ||
| President Trump can't do everything, right? | ||
| Do we need a special prosecutor? | ||
| What is Alex Jones' recommendation to take down the deep state? | ||
| We have only a couple of years to do it, and they're dug in because they run the most powerful apparatus in mankind's history, sir. | ||
| Well, remember the FBI head in New York that they made resign when he hid the Epstein files when Kosh did raid him a day after they refused to release him. | ||
| He said, we're dug in. | ||
| We're in a war. | ||
| We're Marines fighting Trump. | ||
| I mean, they need to indict that guy. | ||
| I mean, that is serious. | ||
| And I know they got the report coming out on Afghanistan and that would draw. | ||
| We need to get that commission and court marshals going of a million others. | ||
| It's all cut and dry. | ||
| We need prosecutions now. | ||
| And you're the expert on that. | ||
| We need those mechanisms now. | ||
| And we have to start going after these people. | ||
| Now we're starting to see corrupt congresspeople arrested. | ||
| We're starting to see corrupt judges that hide illegal alien gangbangers being arrested. | ||
| And we're seeing Tom Homan scale up and accelerate the amount of deportation. | ||
| So overall, I give Trump an A+. | ||
| You're absolutely right. | ||
| He was elected the captain of the ship, as Elon Musk said, as you've said. | ||
| But he has about half the crew. | ||
| That is mutinous. | ||
| I mean, half of them wouldn't even respond to the Doe's email saying, what's five things you did last week and who is your boss? | ||
| And so Trump has to crack the whip with all of these people. | ||
| You know, Trump wants to know what happened in Butler. | ||
| Trump wants to know what happened in Mar-a-Lago with the shooter. | ||
| But notice the FBI was covering that up, according to the state police in Florida. | ||
| Now it seems to be going on. | ||
| And I've talked to some high-level prosecutors over the weekend and asked them what they thought about all this. | ||
| And they said, listen. | ||
| We've got to pick our battles. | ||
| And certain issues that were run by professional crooks like Comey are so hard to penetrate and would take everything we've got. | ||
| We're moving to hit the low-level and mid-level to make them turn state's evidence very, very soon. | ||
| I know you talk to a lot of high-level sources and the president all the time. | ||
| I talk to some of the top prosecutors, and they said that's going on. | ||
| They also reached out to me to say, we know about what happened to you. | ||
| So not to write myself into the... | ||
| Story, you've been persecuted more, but three days after Trump got in, I was sent by the FBI, a part of my file, where Obama, right when Comey got in in 2013, declared me a top national security threat. | ||
| I put these documents out months ago. | ||
| I got them like three weeks after Trump was in. | ||
| I got a call, hey, look in your P.O. box. | ||
| It came from the FBI, and it was the Boston field office, so back to Mueller as well, put him under national security threat. | ||
| Which is an ongoing, not just criminal investigation, but a full-on secret sanction operation of debanking, harassment, demonization, human intelligence, attempted infiltrators, lawsuits, deplatforming. | ||
| And so I was the beta test along with General Flynn and you. | ||
| And they bragged about this on MSNBC. | ||
| They've had their top lawyers that have engineered it all brag how once we get Jones, Bannon, and others, we're going to get Tucker Carlson, then we're going to get Trump. | ||
| And so now more of this has come out. | ||
| Now, you know, Comey's got his new book out, which they even admit the bad guy that must be put in prison, the talk show host, by the FBI is based on the evil Alex Jones. | ||
| So they are obsessed with you and I particularly because we see right through them. | ||
| And we just have to be as intense as possible with not just Trump and his crew, but with the general public. | ||
| This is not a normal election, not a normal knee. | ||
| And there is no election cycle. | ||
| This is full-on information war. | ||
| Here on out, people better be marching, demonstrating, spreading information online, donating, supporting the sponsors of all the most hardcore on-point shows. | ||
| And when a broadcast and news organization, like the War Room, or like what I do at Infowars, is under attack, it is an absolute must. | ||
| To push everything we do like it's a war, because it is. | ||
| And I'm not trying to say, hey, promote us, that's the answer, but it is. | ||
| Boost everything Trump's doing. | ||
| Boost everything you're doing. | ||
| Because, look, listen, we're weeks into the media going, corporate media, oh, look, we're selling books, and oh, the Democrats covered up he was sick, Biden, and he was a near vegetable. | ||
| We already knew that. | ||
| We don't need them to tell us that. | ||
| We knew that five, six years ago. | ||
| But when he was first running, we said Biden's got serious problems. | ||
| They've diverted from the auto pin, the committee run by Obama that was really ruling the country illegally. | ||
| They stole the 2020, but you can debate that all day. | ||
| The evidence is there. | ||
| But you can't debate that Biden didn't know he signed a ban on liquid natural gas and all the rest of it. | ||
| And so everything he did was illegitimate. | ||
| And Trump is hammering that and saying, I want indictments of the treasonous thugs, close quote, that ran a coup. | ||
| And that's what it is. | ||
| So Trump gets it. | ||
| His instincts are on target. | ||
| You're on target. | ||
| I'm on target. | ||
| A few others are on target. | ||
| And that's why we're under attack. | ||
| Whatever's under attack, whatever's getting the flack, is over the damn target. | ||
| And we need to get damn serious about this. | ||
| And Trump needs to come out with televised national addresses and say, we must arrest the criminals that did all of this. | ||
| Or they're going to stage false flags. | ||
| They're getting ready for mass riots this summer. | ||
| They've been gearing up for it. | ||
| It is on. | ||
| Alex, hang on one second. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| Jones is speaking truth to power this morning in the war room. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| Government gangsters are the group of individuals, career bureaucrats, who have been installed by what we call the deep state into every agency and department in the United States government. | ||
| What do you think of the way that the intelligence community handled the so-called Russia dossier? | ||
| And overall, how do you think of the way they've handled Donald Trump? | ||
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The end of the day. | |
| Okay, Gummer Gangster is produced by War Room Film, Stephen K. Bannon, directed by Matthew Taylor. | ||
| We spent a lot of time with Cash in the book. | ||
| The book was a best-selling hit. | ||
| The movie did incredibly well. | ||
| We'll put it back out. | ||
| And, you know, Cash understands what's going on. | ||
| So, Alex, they barely have a grip on the FBI because they've got two guys over there. | ||
| They barely have a grip on the Justice Department, even though they've seconded some guys like Ed Martin and people like that over there. | ||
| They don't have a grip. | ||
| Ratcliffe's already told us the thousand CIA guys are all just going to be, you know, as they retire, they're not going to fill the billet. | ||
| And he's already said, Politico has reported, he's not going to make any changes. | ||
| He said he's not going to make any political changes over there. | ||
| You just go through department after department after department. | ||
| We're burning daylight on this. | ||
| The departments themselves can't do it. | ||
| The folks President Trump have are doing a solid job as a kid, but they barely have grips on this massive administrative state bureaucracy in the combination of those departments I talked about. | ||
| Certain elite elements forms a deep state. | ||
| This has to happen from the outside, and it has to report directly to President Trump because you can tell he's getting more frustrated. | ||
| What is your recommendation, sir? | ||
| Well, that's right. | ||
| You know, we know that they were going to put Ed Martin in as the U.S. attorney in D.C. He was acting as that. | ||
| And then the Republicans, some of them, tell us blocked it. | ||
| Trump could have rammed it through. | ||
| But instead, they are making him the head of this new anti-government weaponization task force with the power to go all over the country. | ||
| But he's not working on even trying to get it staffed and obviously, you know, going through all of that. | ||
| But I think you're right. | ||
| A special counsel. | ||
| That the president brings in that reports right to him a anti-deep state czar. | ||
| Ed Martin would be a great person. | ||
| And, you know, not give him a billion dollars like they're talking about with his new task force. | ||
| How about $10 billion? | ||
| I mean, $20 billion. | ||
| I mean, this would be the best money we ever spent. | ||
| And in a doge-like way, just go in, look at the files of all these globalists, all these deceivers, and just purge them. | ||
| That's what must be done. | ||
| And what happens is you leave them there. | ||
| They start threatening. | ||
| They start intimidating. | ||
| They start going after people's families covertly. | ||
| They start applying all sorts of pressure. | ||
| And then most of the people Trump's put in that he thinks are even on his side aren't for the globalists. | ||
| But at the end of the day, they're intimidated. | ||
| Trump needs hardcore, serious warriors like him. | ||
| And that's what he has to have. | ||
| He needs to have a thousand Steve Bannons, a thousand... | ||
| General Flynn's, a thousand Ed Martins to put in all the key positions that don't play games. | ||
| We are in a counter-revolution against the globalists. | ||
| We were on the edge of the republic being gone, but the people rallied and woke up to a certain extent, and now we've expanded our beachhead of eight years ago to a larger take-back of the republic. | ||
| We are far from victorious at this point. | ||
| If we go through, Alex, if we go through these four years and we've changed the trade deals, we've killed the global, we got out of the World Trade Organization, we've secured our borders, we've done all this, but have not laid a glove on the deep state, would this term be a success or a failure in your mind? | ||
| People will see the incredible success and then MAGA, make America great again and make the world great again in this global peace initiative, the golden age of the world, as Trump said. | ||
| I mean, that's really the mission. | ||
| American soft power, bringing back what made us the apple of the world's eye and the destination. | ||
| Yes, overall, they'll never get their full globalist plan, but they will still, for decades, be able to destabilize. | ||
| And persecute people, and they will try to reinstitute their carbon taxes, their Paris Accords, the transgender stuff that we still haven't fully defeated. | ||
| And so long-term, they still lose, but it'll be much, much, much more painful. | ||
| We've got to aggressively get this done now. | ||
| It must be done. | ||
| It is an absolute... | ||
| Death battle, beyond existential, are all of our futures hanging in the balance. | ||
| As Trump has said a thousand times, they're not trying to get him. | ||
| He's standing in the way of them getting to us. | ||
| And the public has to understand this is the number one issue. | ||
| This is everything. | ||
| And as the world begins to wake up to the globalist tyranny, and you will eat the bugs, that's happening. | ||
| And you see the EU arresting their political opposition, arresting, canceling elections. | ||
| So people are really getting it, but we're seeing the response of the globalists to not reform or course correct, but to double down, not just here but around the world. | ||
| We have to double down with everything we've got, and it's got to be Trump's leadership. | ||
| He's got to call in Kosh and all of them and tell them, listen, because he's not stupid. | ||
| He knows that was a stand-down on what happened at Butler. | ||
| He knows that was a setup with Ukraine money coming back through to try to kill him. | ||
| In Mar-a-Lago, he knows damn well. | ||
| And if they don't bring all this out, then it is just inviting them to continue to engage in all the criminal activity they've engaged in. | ||
| No, they know they won't. | ||
| You've said, okay, you've talked to senior people. | ||
| You've said, hey, look, to go after the top guys now is too hard. | ||
| We're going to go in and start rolling up and have guys flip. | ||
| Do you believe, given the time we have, do you think that's a smart strategy, sir? | ||
| I mean, I'm not a federal prosecutor. | ||
| I'm not a U.S. attorney. | ||
| And I definitely studied it enough to be dangerous. | ||
| But all I know is, as you keep saying, this was a globalist revolution in the country. | ||
| Cloud and pivot on steroids. | ||
| We're not in the same place we were. | ||
| This is a real war. | ||
| It's an emergency. | ||
| They brought us in to bureaucratic globalist martial law. | ||
| Endless emergency. | ||
| So it's going to take serious medicine to get us out of that. | ||
| Trump's not a tyrant. | ||
| He's a peacemaker. | ||
| He wants stability. | ||
| But we have to be ready, no, to put him in in 28. We need to 48-47, not 86-47. | ||
| We have to be bold, aggressive, unapologetic. | ||
| We're the good guys. | ||
| We're fighting the tyrants. | ||
| We control the narrative. | ||
| And we just have to be... | ||
| Not arrogant, but laser-focused and bullish and just blitzkrieg over them with the truth and not play patty cake. | ||
| I watch Fox News constantly congratulating themselves. | ||
| Oh, was it ineptitude they didn't know that Trump— was it ineptitude that they didn't know that Biden was a near vegetable, or did they do it on purpose? | ||
| That's a false debate within a false debate. | ||
| It's not about them lying. | ||
| We knew they were lying. | ||
| It's about the coup of the last four years. | ||
| We have to hammer the illegitimacy of that. | ||
| We have to get election integrity, enforce those executive orders, pull the federal funds from states that don't have voter ID. | ||
| We have to reinstitute the Judiciary Act Of 1802, 1803, Thomas Jefferson. | ||
| Congress should not just talk about it. | ||
| They should fire either selectively or all of these Article III judges. | ||
| This is war. | ||
| We've got to take action now. | ||
| Alex Jones, man. | ||
| Hey, I'm signing up for this. | ||
| Now you know why Alex Jones is target number one. | ||
| And we ought to get those documents out there. | ||
| You were target number one. | ||
| Alex, where do people go to get all your content, social media? | ||
| You're the tip of the spear on this, and you're right. | ||
| It's an information war, but we've got to go on offense. | ||
| We're not on offense right now, folks. | ||
| We're on offense on a lot of stuff President Trump's doing. | ||
| On setting the economy, trying to stop the kinetic part of the Third World War, stop the invasion. | ||
| But on the thing that we have to do, which is take apart the deep state and salt the earth around it, a Carthaginian peace is the only thing that we're going to call for. | ||
| We're not there yet, and we've got to get there, and we've got to get there rapidly. | ||
| Alex, where do they go to get all your content and social media, sir? | ||
| It's been a long battle. | ||
| There's a hearing on June 6th where they're still trying to shut us down. | ||
| I'm suing them. | ||
| Paul Weiss Law Firm, we're really winning. | ||
| There's a criminal investigation. | ||
| I can just leave it at that, what they've done. | ||
| And I'll be up in D.C. soon for some meetings on that. | ||
| Bottom line, I'm at realalexjonesonx. | ||
| For now, infowars.com forward slash show. | ||
| And we are just fighting, and we are pushing the truth out, and we are rallying the troops. | ||
| So I want to thank all of your viewers and listeners for their great work. | ||
| And I was at target number one. | ||
| We were all in the first target group. | ||
| But yes, we were in the first wave that they attacked because we are the shock troops. | ||
| And I'm just blessed to be right beside you, Steve. | ||
| Alex, just before you go, we've got about a minute. | ||
| Because we've pulled you live from the day they were trying to shut you down. | ||
| The guys are in your control room ripping out cords. | ||
| In that fight back to stay alive as a broadcaster, you're saying your investigators, you have found criminal activity against you, sir? | ||
| Yes, we filed that in court. | ||
| That's the hearing on the 6th. | ||
| And I can tell you the Justice Department is looking at it. | ||
| And they've asked me to come up soon with all the data. | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
| We found out the Justice Department secretly funded the fake lawsuits, coordinated the Democrat operative judges defaulting me, and they had literal show trials produced by HBO. | ||
| They had a fake auction back in November and wouldn't let anybody else bid, but said it was a real auction. | ||
| The judge found it was a fraud, the federal judge. | ||
| But then he still just says, well, if Paul Weiss law firm running this whole thing against me, You know, does it want somebody to buy InfoWars? | ||
| It'll just be shut down. | ||
| And the Democrats have said, we don't want him on air. | ||
| We don't want money. | ||
| We want him shut down. | ||
| Of course, we built a backup network at AJ and Live on X, and that's things built. | ||
| But it's smaller. | ||
| This is the hill we're dying on. | ||
| We're not giving up to the end. | ||
| But that's what's going on. | ||
| I mean, it has been wild. | ||
| It has been crazy. | ||
| And you can read the filing from about a month ago in federal court that got this hearing on the 6th coming up. | ||
| We're filing more lawsuits. | ||
| And we say in there, we show the bankruptcy fraud. | ||
| We show the criminality. | ||
| We show it. | ||
| Boom, boom, boom. | ||
| It's cut and dry. | ||
| They've been so arrogant. | ||
| And the Justice Department's very interested because they were so arrogant with me. | ||
| It's very cut and dry. | ||
| And it goes right up to the Justice Department, right up to the FBI. | ||
| The FBI testified in the Connecticut Show trial that they initiated the lawsuits against me. | ||
| So it's all been run by Comey. | ||
| We're going to get all over it. | ||
| That's why President Trump targeted Paul Weiss first. | ||
| Alex, thank you so much. | ||
| We got your back. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| What a warrior. | ||
| What a patriot. | ||
| What an American hero. | ||
| The Alex Jones. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| Russ, vote on the other side. | ||
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Over your war. | |
| War Room. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | ||
| Okay, we're going to go to the White House. | ||
| Our own Russ Vogt, the Director, Office of Management and Budget. | ||
| Russ, can you kind of summarize where we are? | ||
| The big, beautiful bill passed. | ||
| Your structure of trying to bend the arc of mandatory spending in the out years is now approved. | ||
| Head to the Senate. | ||
| Where do we stand, sir? | ||
| Obviously, we had a big vote this morning to get the bill out of the House, a massive bill. | ||
| Any one of these provisions in this bill would normally, in a different era, been the subject of months of the debate, but we were able to do it in one bill and send it to the Senate. | ||
| The thing that I want to unpack, a couple things. | ||
| Number one, it is an enormous bill. | ||
| It is much of our agenda, but it is only one aspect of what a comprehensive budget picture is. | ||
| This was a procedural device to get as much as your agenda through the Senate and avoid a Senate filibuster. | ||
| Doesn't include the tariffs, doesn't include the discretionary fight that we're going to do on rescissions and cutting all the non-defense spending that we sent up in our budget resolution. | ||
| There's a lot of things that are part of a comprehensive fiscal... | ||
| Picture that gets you to balance. | ||
| But what this bill does is it ends, I believe, 30 years of futility with not being able to do anything substantial on mandatory savings. | ||
| The last time we had any real victory was 1997 with passage of the balanced budget agreement, which of course had welfare reform as part of it. | ||
| This bill has nearly $2 trillion. | ||
| As the scores get updated based on the changes that House conservatives were able to work with us on, this bill will have... | ||
| We have nearly $2 trillion in mandatory savings, more than double what was achieved in 1997. | ||
| And it will mean, as a result of reasonable economic growth assumptions over 10, and the mandatory savings that are part of this bill, that this bill will reduce the deficit and will help us with our debt. | ||
| And I believe the most important thing we need is actually victories on our side of the football field. | ||
| That's what this bill does, and that's what we have not had for... | ||
| For 30 years, it also then sets us up for an enormous fight on non-defense appropriations, the woke, the weaponized bureaucracy. | ||
| That is still going to happen this year. | ||
| This bill makes it easier because we are taking for all of our homeland security increases and our defense increases that are normally the kinds of things that cause Republicans or Democrats to be divided. | ||
| It keeps us from having a rock down. | ||
| We'll fight on non-defense discretionary later this year. | ||
| This bill, in fact, sets that up. | ||
| So I'm extremely excited about it. | ||
| Obviously, President Trump closed it out yesterday, and now we go to the Senate to try to get as much of this and hopefully more as we possibly can. | ||
| No, here's a closer. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| In selling it to the bond market, the growth rate, which I think can be justified, the House used 2.6. | ||
| Hassett's talking about 3% or more. | ||
| But I think the things on the supply site, that can be sold. | ||
| Your additional cuts and rescissions, I don't think, is in here. | ||
| That can be sold. | ||
| The tariffs. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The tariffs are going to be at least a couple hundred billion dollars, maybe three. | ||
| I hear as much as half a trillion dollars. | ||
| That can't be scored by CBO. | ||
| We got that. | ||
| But in a big, beautiful package, it can be sold to the bond market. | ||
| I've got Scott Besson. | ||
| I've got Russ Vogt. | ||
| I've got Hassett. | ||
| Maybe even Morant and Navarro. | ||
| I've got three, four, five. | ||
| Throw in Lutnik. | ||
| Are people that understand these and can explain it to capital markets? | ||
| What is the plan for that? | ||
| I got a big, beautiful bill, but it's not comprehensive because certain things can't be in it because of the nature of the reconciliation. | ||
| When are we going to go? | ||
| Because I think that's when people understand, well, hey, maybe I want more 10-year treasuries and I'm not going to charge you, you know, what, 4.6% or, you know, over 5% on the 30s. | ||
| When are we going to have a comprehensive... | ||
| If anybody can sell something, it's Donald Trump, right? | ||
| Because he's a deal guy. | ||
| He knows capital markets. | ||
| When are we going to get on offense and push what you just said, which is a winning message and happens to be reality? | ||
| No, it's something we've been trying to do over the last week, particularly because we got the news from Moody's. | ||
| And look, with Moody's, I think there's some Liz Truss attacks going on with regard to the timing of this. | ||
| They were basically trying to get themselves updated for being irrelevant for the last 15 years. | ||
| In terms of the substance of what the credit ratings have said over years is, look, there's been no success towards moving the structural debt and deficits from mandatory savings. | ||
| We think we accomplished that. | ||
| Your point, your question. | ||
| We believe that the tariffs are a part of this. | ||
| The tariffs are happening right now. | ||
| Everyone thinks the president is negotiating these bills. | ||
| We are on a current glide path right now. | ||
| For $3 trillion over 10 years, notwithstanding how the reciprocal agreements end up. | ||
| That's based on the things that are in place right now that we are seeing record levels of tariffs, and they are coming in to the extent over 10 years of $3 trillion. | ||
| We are going to send up rescissions bills. | ||
| There's this meme out there that we're not sending rescissions bills up. | ||
| We have a $9 billion package of doge cuts to foreign aid and Corporation for Public Broadcasting and NPR. | ||
| It is almost ready to go up. | ||
| Why is the delay? | ||
| The delay is because the House actually wants to pass it, and we have been working with House appropriators, Tom Cole, Mario Diaz-Ballart. | ||
| For the first time in history, I've had conversations with the House appropriators. | ||
| They want to pass it in the House and put pressure on the Senate. | ||
| I don't want to send rescissions bills up there that go nowhere. | ||
| And then, of course, we remain committed in keeping impoundment on the table. | ||
| So if they don't move these cuts, we are still going to have our executive tools to, in fiscal year 25... | ||
| In fiscal year 25 to bend and cut and reduce woke and weaponized bureaucracy and make doge cuts permanent. | ||
| So this is a comprehensive picture. | ||
| Those three things, because CBO, because of the nature of it, can't score certain things. | ||
| In reconciliation, you can't discuss things because of the way. | ||
| But I count from Hassett on growth rates of which they say they can back up, and I think they can. | ||
| $4 trillion of additional tax revenues coming in on the reduced tax structure we've got. | ||
| Number one, you just said $3 trillion over 10 on tariffs, minimum. | ||
| That's $300. | ||
| You add the $400 billion of additional growth, tax growth, and you add the $300 billion. | ||
| I'm at $700 billion. | ||
| All of a sudden, you throw in some rescissions. | ||
| I'm getting close to the trillion dollars that we talked about, cutting. | ||
| This gets you on the six and a half. | ||
| The glide slope to three and a half. | ||
| Zero hedge and everybody reporting, hey, the six and a half goes to seven. | ||
| The reason is we're not on a full offense relentless about you're not looking at the math right and here's the math. | ||
| And if you do that, the bond market's going to react because right now we're playing with one hand tied behind our back because of the constraints of the reconciliation process, sir. | ||
| Couldn't say it better. | ||
| We have to zoom out. | ||
| We've got to show the full picture of what this administration is accomplishing across the board. | ||
| And once we tell that story, people will be as excited as I am, as OMB has been in helping shepherd this to the completion and getting the president to be able to get it across the finish line. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because it ends fiscal futility. | ||
| We haven't had any victories on this side of the football field in nearly 30 years, and now we're talking about $2 trillion in mandatory savings. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| One thing. | ||
| Okay, Russ. | ||
| So the reason for that has not really been the House. | ||
| It's been the Senate. | ||
| And you've got 19 collaborators up there that worked with Biden and Mitch McConnell to agree to all this madness and spending that drove inflation that got us into this situation with the debt. | ||
| When is Russ Vogt go sit down with the Senate and say, guys, you can't make this any—we need to make this even better. | ||
| You can't make it worse because that is the heart—for the audience out there, the heavy lift, as heavy as it was in the House, a heavier lift is the Senate, is it not, sir? | ||
| We think that we're going to have a great set of progress in getting this through the Senate. | ||
| Look, here's the dynamic. | ||
| We're up there all the time. | ||
| I'll be up there all the time. | ||
| We've got a lot of members. | ||
| The Republican Conference wants to do something historic. | ||
| They want to do something that's big and beautiful. | ||
| They want to get it done. | ||
| We believe that a three-seat majority in the House just proved that you could do the magnitude and the scale of what we're now talking about. | ||
| I think it puts pressure on this. | ||
| We want the Senate to do it, and I think we have members in the Senate as well that are going to-- because the fiscal hawks in the Senate are going to demand that we hit the House number and be able to build upon it. | ||
| And so I think this is something that, you know, we're hoping to get it done as soon as we possibly can and get it to the president's desk before July 4th. | ||
| A thousand conversations between now and then need to occur, but I'm not expecting a ton of resistance. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Russ Vogt, where do we go? | ||
| Thanks for taking time today to visit with us. | ||
| Where do we go to follow you on social media, sir? | ||
| At Russ Vogt and now at OMB Press. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| By the way, Russ, all those profiles I read about you, you're not that bad a guy, are you? | ||
| The media, these things, it's like you're Darth Vader. | ||
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You're actually a pretty nice guy. | |
| Just your boring neighborhood budget guy, Steve. | ||
| Russ, you're a warrior. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Thank you for helping the president. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Russ, vote. | ||
| Patriot and warrior right there. | ||
| They're coming after Russ. | ||
| Big league. | ||
| They understand he's the glue that holds it together. | ||
| You heard it right there. | ||
| I think we've got to get a full package, and you've got to press. | ||
| This thing's got to be sold. | ||
| The Moody's thing is not a coincidence. | ||
| They did it on the eve of the vote. | ||
| For a reason. | ||
| They had decades to do this. | ||
| And what did they do? | ||
| They didn't do it during Biden's thing. | ||
| Give me a break. | ||
| Give me a frickin' break. | ||
| Do we have the Luigi? | ||
| Can I do the forks on the road? | ||
| Is that teed up? | ||
| Can we go ahead and call for that? | ||
| Yeah, let's go ahead and play. | ||
| I want to play this. | ||
| I want to talk about they had an assassination. | ||
| That's what it was last night. | ||
| An assassination. | ||
| Two assassinations. | ||
| Okay, we ready? | ||
| Anytime. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Let's hit it. | ||
| And here's the thing. | ||
| The alternative the populist nationalists offer is an alternative that you can see the sunlit up once. | ||
| Tons of change has to happen. | ||
| But the other alternative, I'm telling you, is this Luigi. | ||
| The look is treated like a hero. | ||
| He's treated like Robin Hood. | ||
| That should scare you. | ||
| To the marrow of your bones. | ||
| Because that's the alternative. | ||
| If the system keeps going like it is, that alternative is your alternative. | ||
| We offer, the populist nationals offer, something you're not going to love, but you'll be able to live with. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Particularly when it comes to spending money. | ||
| Your money. | ||
| So, I said yesterday in front of this world, the system we have is not sustainable. | ||
| Our alternative makes it sustainable, but if you continue on the path, you're going to get Luigi. | ||
| And Luigi is going to be gunning for those people in that audience, which I think the audience understood what I was saying. | ||
| They took it to heart, let's say. | ||
| We've talked for years about the red-green merger. | ||
| This is this radical Marxism, neo-Marxism, combining with radical jihad. | ||
| You saw it last night in Washington, D.C. Gunned down a couple of young people outside, I think, of a Jewish, some sort of Jewish get-together. | ||
| The young guy who happened to be a Christian, I think engaged to a Jewish girl. | ||
| Gunned him down in cold blood, just like Luigi. | ||
| And he's put out a manifesto. | ||
| We'll make sure we'll go through the manifesto. | ||
| Maybe I'll make sure we'll do that at 5 o 'clock. | ||
| But this is what I was warning about. | ||
| This merger of the BLM and the radical neo-Marxist. | ||
| With the jihadists, because the guy was yelling, free Palestine. | ||
| This is going to be a thing. | ||
| What's this guy's name, Rodriguez or Gonzalez? | ||
| He clearly doesn't appear to be a Muslim. | ||
| The free Palestine is now part of this neo-Marxist. | ||
| It's the red-green merger. | ||
| And this is going to get a lot more violent. | ||
| I keep telling people this. | ||
| They're going to get a lot more violent. | ||
| These people are out of control. | ||
| They are violent. | ||
| These people are being goaded on by people that want to have violence. | ||
| And that guy was right there and was, I don't know if he ran away or didn't run away, but he was captured by the authorities or at least security immediately. | ||
| He's taken two young lives and his life's over. | ||
| He'll spend, you know, they'll put him in a supermax for the rest of his life. | ||
| These people are being goaded on by very sophisticated and very bad people that want to destroy this republic. | ||
| This red-green merger, you've seen it in Europe. | ||
| You've seen it in London. | ||
| This is the radical neo-Marxist left with the Sharia supremacists of the jihadist movement. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| back in a moment. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Okay, now more than ever, you need to talk to folks at Birch Gold, capital markets banging around. | ||
| By the way, people are saying, hey, with Steve, I have not changed my mind one bit on this bill. | ||
| This bill could be a lot better. | ||
| I'm very concerned about the deficits in the short term. | ||
| But given the totality of President Trump's program, it's the best you're going to get for right now. | ||
| And I'm very upset. | ||
| I think defense spending is too much. | ||
| I think that... | ||
| The Social Security taxes are not acceptable, but it's going to go to the Senate, then it's a conference, and we've got more time to work on this. | ||
| I do believe, and I stand by this, you've got to increase the taxes or not give the tax cut to the wealthy. | ||
| Not for right now. | ||
| Just can't happen. | ||
| And I understand some of these things are not popular, and they're not popular in the White House, but that's just the reasonable people can disagree. | ||
| However, I'm the biggest proponent of pushing out the totality of the package. | ||
| Including the tariff revenue, including what the growth rate is that can be backed up because President Trump's proved in the past that his tax cuts drive growth. | ||
| We've got to get that entire package. | ||
| And we have to go on offense to be able to sell this. | ||
| Not to the media and not even politically right now. | ||
| To the global capital markets because they don't understand it. | ||
| It's quite evident they don't understand it. | ||
| And they get a vote. | ||
| And you should understand that when Moody's had every possibility to do this, and they did it last Friday, that was done for a reason. | ||
| That was done to chop-lock us because they should have done this during Biden's. | ||
| That's when the heart of it, when you saw Cortez's numbers. | ||
| Look, a year ago, when this thing was on fire and they were totally out of control on spending, what did Moody's do? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| When Trump's coming in trying to do something about it, all of a sudden they do that. | ||
| They do that to chop-locking. | ||
| So people can use that as an excuse. | ||
| So this has to be sold. | ||
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| I'm not buying your fiat currency and your argument. | ||
| Find out what's in back of that. | ||
| It ain't the price. | ||
| It's the process. | ||
| And the price is bouncing around. | ||
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| The trend... | ||
| It's been just extraordinary, particularly given the S&P 500, which is, over the last 25 years, it's outperformed. | ||
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| That's not supposed to happen. | ||
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