May 16, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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The Trump administration deporting hundreds of men without a trial. | |
| A massive purge at the FBI. | ||
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to make people afraid of speaking out against him. | |
| We'll be right back. | ||
| I'm leaving to the University of Toronto because I want to do my work without the fear that I will be punished for my words. | ||
| The lesson of 1933 is you get out sooner rather than later. | ||
| I've spent a lot of time in the last decade trying to prepare people if Trump were elected once. | ||
| Let alone twice. | ||
| Look what happened. | ||
| Is this crazy? | ||
| I did not flee Trump. | ||
| But if people are going to leave the United States or leave American universities, there are reasons for that. | ||
| One thing you can definitely learn from Russians is that it's essential to set up centers of resistance in places of relative safety. | ||
| We want to make sure that if there is a political crisis in the U.S., that Americans are organized. | ||
| We've just gotten started. | ||
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You haven't even seen anything yet. | |
| It's all just kicking in. | ||
| My colleagues and friends, they were walking around and saying, we have checks and balances, so let's inhale, checks and balances, exhale, checks and balances. | ||
| And I thought, my God, we're like people on the Titanic, saying our ship can't sink. | ||
| We've got the best ship. | ||
| We've got the strongest ship. | ||
| We've got the biggest ship. | ||
| Our ship can't sink. | ||
| And what you know as a historian is that there is no such thing as a ship that can't sink. | ||
| The golden age of America has only just begun. | ||
| America has long had an exceptionalist narrative. | ||
| Fascism can happen elsewhere, but not here. | ||
| But talking about American exceptionalism is basically a way to get people to fall into line. | ||
| If you think that there's this thing out there called America, and it's exceptional. | ||
| That means that you don't have to do anything. | ||
| Whatever is happening, it must be freedom. | ||
| And so then what your definition of freedom is just gets narrowed and narrowed and narrowed and narrowed, and soon you're using the word freedom, but what you're talking about is authoritarianism. | ||
| Tony Morrison warned us. | ||
| The descent into a final solution is not a jump. | ||
| It's one step. | ||
| And then another. | ||
| And then another. | ||
| We are seeing those steps accelerated right now. | ||
| There are some words, in Russian in particular, that I feel help us to understand what's happening in the United States because we now have those phenomena. | ||
| It's the idea that the powers that be can do anything they want to you, and you have no recourse. | ||
| This not knowing who is next... | ||
| Creates a state of paralysis in society. | ||
| The Tufts student, whose visa was removed because she co-authored an article in the Tufts student newspaper. | ||
| I thought, what would I do if guys in masks tried to grab my student? | ||
| Would I scream? | ||
| Would I run away? | ||
| Would I try to pull the mask off? | ||
| Would I try to videotape the scene? | ||
| Would I try to pull the guys off of her? | ||
| Maybe I would get scared. | ||
| It's a deliberate act of terror. | ||
| It's not necessary. | ||
| It's just being done to create a spirit of us and them. | ||
| It's a word in Russian for corruption, but it's larger than corruption. | ||
| It refers to a kind of existential state in which not only everything but everyone can be bought or sold. | ||
| Critics are calling this a quid pro quo deal between Adams and President Trump. | ||
| I'm committed to buying and owning gossip. | ||
| He made $2.5 billion today and he made $900 million. | ||
| There's an expression in Polish, I found myself at the very bottom. | ||
| And then I heard knocking from below. | ||
| In Russian, that gets abbreviated to there is no bottom. | ||
| We cannot allow a handful of communist radical-left judges to obstruct the enforcement of our laws. | ||
| What starts to matter is not what is concealed, but what has been normalized. | ||
| There's no limit to the depravity. | ||
| President Trump did not rule out the possibility of a third term. | ||
| And the sadism. | ||
| The White House released this video titled ASMR, illegal alien deportation flight. | ||
| And the cruelty that we are watching now play out in real time. | ||
| This facility is one of the tools in our toolkit that we will use. | ||
| You have to continually ask yourself the question, is this okay? | ||
| Is there a line I wouldn't cross? | ||
| Is there something I would not do? | ||
| People say, oh, the Democrats should be doing more. | ||
| They should be fixing things. | ||
| But if you want the Democrats to do things, you have to create the platform for them. | ||
| You have to create the spectacle, the pageantry, the positive energy, the physical place where they can come to you. | ||
| Poland recently went through a shift towards authoritarianism. | ||
| Unlike in Russia, unlike in Hungary. | ||
| The media remained a place in Poland where you could criticize the regime. | ||
| And as a result, democracy returned. | ||
| The moral of Poland is that our democratic institutions, the media, the university, and the courts are essential. | ||
| You know you're living In a fascist society, when you're constantly going over in your head the reasons why you're safe, what we want is a country where none of us have to feel that way. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
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The people have had a belly full of it. | |
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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Mega Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
| War Room. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | |
| You're in the War Room. | ||
| It's Thursday, May 15th in the year of our Lord, 2025. | ||
| It's Natalie Winters holding down the War Room today. | ||
| Again, another historic day. | ||
| Sorry to have probably triggered you with that extremely cringe opening, but we had to play that in full. | ||
| Just absolutely wonderful. | ||
| What a bunch of feckless cowards who've made their decades-long careers off of telling people how to fight autocrats and whatever they want to smear President Trump as. | ||
| Apparently they can never let the Russian thing go. | ||
| They have to talk about... | ||
| The Russian dictionary says that this is what MAGA's do. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Clowns. | ||
| Say what you want about the MAGA movement, even when times got really tough. | ||
| We never fled this country. | ||
| And I think there's quite a tacit admission in the fact that they're willing to flee the United States of America for buried lead Canada. | ||
| So we're not really going that far, but I digress. | ||
| And maybe if we annex Canada, then that'll all be for nothing. | ||
| But we never left this country, even when things got really tough, when people like Stephen K. Bannon were sent to prison. | ||
| But that's because those people don't care about this country. | ||
| They think it's theirs to astroturf and manipulate. | ||
| and now they're in retreat. | ||
| Like, the cowards that they are. | ||
| But jokes aside, the theatrics and weird theater kid antics aside of that horrible video we just watched, I think the buried lead of that is quite... | ||
| And I think it confirms, vindicates a lot of the reporting we've done here in the war room, the idea that there is no meaningful distinction between foreign policy and domestic policy. | ||
| In other words, the color revolutions that they've orchestrated abroad, people like Norm Eisen, probably the CIA, all that type of lovely people, that that's now essentially what they're doing here to oppose President Trump. | ||
| the buried lead of that video is when they say, well, actually, the way that Poland was able to prevail, right, it wasn't Hungary, which remember, we always have called out Hungary as sort of this example that they want to depict the United States as being similar to because think about the way that they've tried to wage lawfare and repress But when they say that Poland was able to, you know, crawl back from the depths of a MAGA-style autocracy, what did they say? | ||
| It was through the media and the courts and the protests in the streets. | ||
| And is that not exactly what we're seeing here and exactly what we've been warning about, you guys, for I don't even know how long? | ||
| And I'd also add, what was it, I think nine out of ten media outlets in Ukraine were actually funded by USAID, so your tax dollars. | ||
| I'd love to get the numbers on Polish media. | ||
| You know, when they say media, they're not talking about, you know, independent Polish journalists. | ||
| They're talking about... | ||
| Basically, the pro-democracy, the pro-rule of law, the pro-human rights organizations, whatever the heck that means. | ||
| Propaganda, hardcore lawfare. | ||
| We see that going on here with the judges and the NGOs, which, by the way, and we're going to get to John Mills in a sec, but just to tie a nice big bow on all of this, as I was walking here, I stopped outside of the Supreme Court. | ||
| And it was a perfect amalgamation of, I think, that video we just played. | ||
| I actually saw people from Casa, Maryland. | ||
| You may recall that's the group that... | ||
| Not just that they take money from Mark Zuckerberg. | ||
| I digress on that point for a second. | ||
| But they're the ones alerting people ahead of time for ICE raids, letting you know, hey, the criminal illegal that's your neighbor who should probably be deported. | ||
| And by probably, I mean definitely giving them advance notice so they end up ultimately not being deported. | ||
| So I saw a bunch of them around that protest, obviously having to do with the birthright citizenship stuff. | ||
| A lot of protesters, they were just speaking in Spanish, so I don't know what they were saying. | ||
| Probably nothing. | ||
| America First. | ||
| Call me crazy. | ||
| But I was able to scoop, I guess maybe that's an L for me, because I guess I look like one of the protesters, but a sign. | ||
| American-born children are American children, if you can read that. | ||
| I would humbly say hell no to that. | ||
| If you are an anchor baby, you're not American, even if you're an H-1B or whatever, panoply a visa recipient you may be. | ||
| That does not make you American. | ||
| America is a country, not merely an idea. | ||
| And to have a country, you must have strong, sovereign borders, not just on the southern and northern from a physical perspective, but also the idea that people cannot just fly into this country, give birth to an anchor baby, and then use chain migration to bring their entire family and, I guess, all their friends from backwards, third world, hellholes, and call yourself an American. | ||
| That is the ultimate status symbol that everyone wants to be, just like what's been going on in the Middle East, just because you're born here. | ||
| That does not make you an American. | ||
| I know the Claremont Institute, people like John Eastman have been really ahead of the curve on all of that scholarship for a very long time. | ||
| But this issue was quite a, I guess you would say, reification of everything we talk about from the NGOs to the law fair taking place outside of the Supreme Court. | ||
| So I guess I would like to dedicate this then directly to Norm Eisen. | ||
| Because American children... | ||
| You're not just one of those because you're born in this wonderful, great country. | ||
| And on that note, maybe we'll have to frame this or I can go back to the protest after this with the ripped sign. | ||
| I might not return. | ||
| But Colonel Mills, I think you join us now. | ||
| I'm sure you probably share my feelings towards wanting to rip signs like that. | ||
| There's a lot that I want to get into with you, a bombshell story about the Chinese cartels laundering money through American banks. | ||
| But before we get there, if you could just give us kind of a synopsis from your perspective, what you think we've been seeing unfold in the Middle East. | ||
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Well, thank you, Natalie. | |
| An honor to be on the show with you. | ||
| So many things to break down from this historic visit of President Trump to the Middle East. | ||
| But just look at the magnificent... | ||
| And the authenticity of the love. | ||
| The Saudis, UAE, Jordan, Egypt, were treated horribly by the Obama-Biden team. | ||
| Horribly. | ||
| And it's like they've been actually very good friends and allies. | ||
| A lot of people don't realize how helpful they've been in so many ways. | ||
| And the Biden-Obama team just despised them. | ||
| And then when they started going toward China, you know, they were saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on a second here. | ||
| Seeing this authenticity of love and support, I mean, it was like unbelievable. | ||
| They were treating him as just a... | ||
| I hate to say it, a conquering hero. | ||
| They appreciated him, and he goes to Qatar, and he gets this phalanx of cyber trucks, and then also met with hundreds of tribal members on camels. | ||
| I mean, that was just epic. | ||
| Epic. | ||
| They never would have done that for Biden, Obama, or any of that ilk. | ||
| So great support. | ||
| We'll see what happens with Syria. | ||
| Interesting posit on Syria. | ||
| Still a very messed up place, very factionalized. | ||
| But hey, nothing ventured, nothing gained. | ||
| Try to bring them into the world of potential strategic partners. | ||
| A lot of this is a poke – not just a poke, a punch at Iran. | ||
| And again, even with Iran, what we're trying to do is peel Iran away from China. | ||
| Will it work? | ||
| I mean Iran wouldn't exist right now if it wasn't for illegal purchases of gas and oil by China. | ||
| But nothing ventured, nothing gained. | ||
| They have to try to shut down their nuke program and peel them away from China. | ||
| So just epic, historic events going on in the Middle East with the president's trip. | ||
| And speaking of the broader reorientation, I think there was some outrage over what the Chinese Communist Party was doing, I believe, with Venezuela. | ||
| Russia was maybe sort of loosely linked or just sort of changing where sanctioned oil was coming from, saying that it was Brazilian as opposed to Venezuelan. | ||
| Can you kind of walk us through what may be the PRC's counter to this kind of reshuffling or not even reshuffling, but maybe reassertion of American global hegemony, at least just being respected, I guess, feared and loved. | ||
| Take that up, Ma. | ||
| But your assessment of what China... | ||
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Well, they've created a second world economy. | |
| I don't think the Chinese even realize that because they want to get out from the almighty U.S. dollar as the reserve currency. | ||
| So they're playing all kinds of games. | ||
| Now, the Obama-Biden-Harvard Belfer Center crowd, they just set sanctions and walk away from them. | ||
| You can't set and forget sanctions. | ||
| You must constantly assess them, red-team them. | ||
| China is getting gas and oil illegally from Russia, from Iran, from Venezuela. | ||
| Now, one of the primary reasons we can't do a whole lot about it until the Trump buildup hits the U.S. Navy is our feeble U.S. Navy that is just a shadow of what it was. | ||
| if we had a stronger U.S. Navy and even Coast Guard, let's say that, a Coast Guard that has a much more expanded role, we could actually interdict This worldwide ghost fleet that is running circles around the Obama-Biden sanctions. | ||
| That's what's going on. | ||
| China's getting all this gas and oil illegally. | ||
| And until we have a way to do something about it, not a whole lot we can do about it. | ||
| Speaking of evading sanctions, I think people always like to talk about what the PRC is doing in terms of expanding trade access. | ||
| I'm like, that's way too euphemistic. | ||
| This is full blown economic warfare. | ||
| I don't think they actually want to, I don't know, trade with the Africans or trade with the Venezuelans. | ||
| They want to seize all of their ports and infrastructure. | ||
| I guess it's more than economic warfare. | ||
| You could even make the case in some ways that it's... | ||
| Marginally kinetic. | ||
| But there's been a new bombshell story breaking in the Wall Street Journal talking about how Chinese cartels are essentially, or rather the Chinese Communist Party, I guess Freudian slip there, are taking money from the Sinaloa cartel for Mexican drug cartels and then laundering it through American banks to pay off individuals. | ||
| Can you, I mean, even for me, that's wild. | ||
| Can you walk us through what's going on there? | ||
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Well, Natalie, great minds think alike. | |
| I saw that story first thing this morning, and immediately I said, this is a big deal. | ||
| The Wall Street Journal, which has kind of become the paper of opposition, of record, record for the opposition in some ways, this is a great article. | ||
| And it really walks through the money laundering that is going on in cash. | ||
| I mean, boiled down simply. | ||
| Chinese nationals inside of America, Chinese nationals might be an American citizen of Chinese origin, but more often it's really Chinese here on a visa status, are using yuan, the Chinese currency. | ||
| To buy cash, buy cash from the Sinaloa cartel, which is high cash. | ||
| All that cash is coming from fentanyl primarily, using to kill 80,000 to 100,000 Americans a year. | ||
| So this is a way for the Chinese to get around international sanctions and get access to the almighty dollar because they need dollars to conduct large transactions. | ||
| Kind of implied that this was – the Chinese were doing this without the knowledge of the Chinese government. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| This is absolutely – this is absolutely willful because it says these Chinese are violating Chinese law by – the Chinese government is – the PCCP is part of this, believe me. | ||
| But it's a – this is why high-cash operations are always dangerous. | ||
| Now, again, we don't want Big Brother. | ||
| We're concerned about Big Brother. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But high cash operations, whether it be, well, drug sales, legal cannabis, a scourge, gambling, abortion clinics. | ||
| This is huge opportunity for malfeasance. | ||
| So this is a humongous Chinese money laundering access, money laundering program to get access to the dollar generated in this scenario. | ||
| But it's more than just that. | ||
| All of the fentanyl sales from the cartels in Mexico. | ||
| I think they call that what? | ||
| Unrestricted warfare. | ||
| I guess it's a heavy prop show, though I like this one much better than the sign I was holding up last time. | ||
| Colonel Mills, I always love having you on because you get it always. | ||
| All roads always lead back to the PRC, economic warfare, information warfare, I guess maybe almost kinetic or otherwise or all of the above. | ||
| In the meantime, before we have you back on, if people want to follow you, stay up to date with everything you're working on. | ||
| Where can they go to do that? | ||
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Well, thank you, Natalie. | |
| On Substack, it's Colonel Rhett John, Colonel R-E-T John on Substack, Colonel R-E-T John 2, Colonel Rhett John 2 on X. And thank you very much, Natalie. | ||
| Pleasure is all mine. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Warren Posse, you know, we've been drilling down on the copyright office stuff lately. | ||
| Also, the AI semiconductor chip deals that I think have gone through with essentially being just one step away from giving the Chinese Communist Party, obviously known for their military civil fusion, the advanced tech chip semiconductors, whatever that they may need to propel their advancement, whether it's made in China 2025 or otherwise, but particularly in the field of, you know, high grade weapons. | ||
| But I think we sort of hammered down something, which is the idea that there's almost this element of consensual intellectual property theft, right? | ||
| We know what we're getting into when you turn over certain technologies, not maybe directly to the Chinese Communist Party, but at least to their intermediaries. | ||
| And I think when you look at what our policy on immigration has been, not just talking illegal, but particularly from the legal framework, obviously the H-1B issue, which Warren has always been proud to be ahead of the curve. | ||
| It's this weird sort of, I think, consensual demise. | ||
| Really writing our own eulogy of the United States of America, particularly for American workers and American wages. | ||
| And I would say I'm disheartened. | ||
| We're going to have someone on to explain it, Kevin Lin, who's an expert really in all things H-1B and just, you know, tech worker policy. | ||
| But I'm very disheartened that we're seeing the new numbers come out. | ||
| And I think it's upwards of 120,000 or so new H-1B visas being administered for fiscal year 2026, if I'm correct on all of that. | ||
| That is not MAGA at all. | ||
| And I think that that's really going to be a defining issue as you see the two sort of, you know, tech bro and MAGA, kind of more war roomy camp, continue to have the arranged shotgun marriage that we've sort of had. | ||
| There's no room for compromise on the H-1B issue. | ||
| It's something I'm extremely passionate about because all of the science, science and white papers and, you know, media fear porn that you've seen about how there's a shortage of workers and the people that we're importing are actually the best and the brightest. | ||
| It's completely fake, completely astroturfing. | ||
| AstroTurf makes the COVID-19 vaccine science look good, and that says a lot. | ||
| Kevin, Lynn, I'd love to bring you on. | ||
| We've got a few minutes, and I'm going to have a nice cold open for you after we return from break. | ||
| But if you can just sort of give us the top-line assessment of these new numbers for 2025 or 2026, and just why they're not necessary. | ||
| But like I said, we'll definitely get into it more after the break. | ||
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You're absolutely right. | |
| Fiscal year 2026 has been approved. | ||
| It's 120,000. | ||
| Fiscal year 2025 was 135,000. | ||
| Now, between 2022 and 2025, we brought in 583,000 H-1B visa workers. | ||
| And get this, we have had over 404,000 layoffs from the tech sector. | ||
| Between 2022 and 2025. | ||
| That's the bottom line. | ||
| These workers are not needed. | ||
| AI, and I really would like to dive into, AI is not the issue. | ||
| Microsoft just laid off 6,000 people. | ||
| They're fat in terms of H-1Bs and their appetite for more. | ||
| And most of the people they laid off were AI-oriented. | ||
| AI is not what's killing jobs. | ||
| What's killing jobs is the H-1B visa program and other programs like STEM OPT. | ||
| And a lot of these numbers, from what I understand, what's publicly available is sort of just the tip of the iceberg because it doesn't often count visa overstayers or even, like, it's very murky, right, to get these numbers. | ||
| So would you posit that it's probably even more? | ||
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I don't know why my Siri just came up. | |
| I have no idea why. | ||
| Siri, stop. | ||
| Sorry about that. | ||
| Siri turned on. | ||
| Can you hear me? | ||
| It's big tech sabotaging you. | ||
| Yes, you're all good. | ||
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Yeah, I think so. | |
| Absolutely. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because what we don't see are the L-1 visa. | ||
| What's not typically reported are the L-1 visas, the inter-company transfers that come over each year. | ||
| For instance, the person that kicked off the great H-1B visa kerfuffle over the holidays, Sri Ram Krishnan, he originally came on an L-1 visa from Microsoft. | ||
| That's how he got to the U.S. We're not looking at STEM, science, technology, engineering, math, optional practical training, an employment authorization doc that gives any foreigner who graduates with a STEM degree a three-year work permit here in the U.S. And they're preferred because, well... | ||
| The employer doesn't have to pay FICA or Social Security on them, and they can pay them, unlike the H-1B, where at least there's a prevailing wage, albeit low. | ||
| They don't have to pay a STEM OPT worker anything if they don't want to, because it's practical training. | ||
| Kevin, if you can hang with us through the break, it's the great replacement. | ||
| I mean, it's in your face. | ||
| It's the great reduction of American wages. | ||
| And I just take so much offense, I think, to the lack of, I think, faith that the tech bro right or Democrats, establishment Republicans have and the brilliance and the genius of American workers. | ||
| We don't need to import people who don't speak English and got fake diplomas from third world country diploma mills. | ||
| It's just, sorry to Media Matters to call it out how it is, but that's the truth. | ||
| Americans, we're capable. | ||
| We built this great country. | ||
| We don't need to import other people to keep doing that and keep up that legacy, let alone making us train our replacements. | ||
| Warren Posse, if you can hang with us through the break, and in the meantime, make sure you're checking out MyPatriotSupply.com. | ||
| You can use... | ||
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| We'll be right back after this short break. | ||
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Court hears arguments this morning on a major national question, the question of whether a single judge can make a decision that applies to the entire country. | |
| The details of the case involve President Trump's executive order to restrict which children born in the U.S. can be U.S. citizens, also known as birthright citizenship. | ||
| Jan Crawford is at the Supreme Court for us watching it all. | ||
| Jan, good morning. | ||
| What's at stake here? | ||
| Well, good morning. | ||
| So the Trump administration is saying that one federal judge can't dictate national policy for everyone, while opponents say the alternative would be legal chaos. | ||
| Now, we talked to an undocumented pregnant woman. | ||
| She's seeking asylum. | ||
| She asked us not to show her face. | ||
| This expecting mother says she dreams of her baby girl being born an American citizen. | ||
| She worries without birthright citizenship, her baby could be deported back to Guatemala with her if she's forced to leave, where they both would be unsafe. | ||
| But judges across the country are rejecting President Trump's efforts to end automatic birthright citizenship, three of those judges applying their rulings nationwide. | ||
| President Trump has blasted those decisions, calling on the Supreme Court to act. | ||
| Juan Perano, head of the nation's largest Hispanic civil rights organization, disagrees. | ||
| What is your concern if the court says no nationwide injunctions? | ||
| Well, then you're going to have lawsuits effectively filed in every single state. | ||
| It's going to tie up the court, and individuals may lose their protections under the Constitution if that happens. | ||
| The Obama and Biden administrations opposed national injunctions, arguing judges in conservative states like Texas, where opponents chose to file lawsuits, were dictating national policy. | ||
| Now the shoe is on the other foot. | ||
| A CBS News analysis of more than 300 lawsuits filed against the Trump administration found that outside of Washington, D.C., the most are in liberal Massachusetts, followed by Maryland, California, and New York. | ||
| West Virginia Attorney General J.B. McCuskey says that shows why it's a problem when these rulings apply nationwide. | ||
| People begin to look at circuit judges as an extension of the political process. | ||
| And that is fundamentally... | ||
| Disastrous for the way that the public views the impartiality and the power of our courts. | ||
| Disastrous. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because the court is nothing if it doesn't have its integrity. | ||
| Now, the use of these sweeping injunctions has been growing significantly in recent years. | ||
| There have been 39 of them so far blocking President Trump's policies in his second term. | ||
| Welcome back to The War Room. | ||
| We're still joined by Kevin Lin, someone who has been pushing back against just the outrageous flood of lies that presuppose that we need to import a bunch of people who don't really even oftentimes speak English all that well to replace you at your job. | ||
| I find it extremely insulting and just, I don't know, I would take long odds on the American people. | ||
| Call me an American supremacist. | ||
| I think that's a great thing. | ||
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Never bet against America. | |
| Right? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Although the tech bros, I think they need to get on board with that. | ||
| I have always said that I think to supplement the tariffs, that restrictions on these H-1B visas would have been a great policy, too, because I think it comes from a similar vein of protectionism of American workers and wages. | ||
| But walk through the sort of fake idea that it's AI and automation that's stealing all these jobs. | ||
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Oh, absolutely. | |
| You know, right now, just the last couple of days, the oxygen is being sucked out of the room over 50 white refugees from Africa. | ||
| And yet no one is talking about the 120,000 H-1B visas that were approved for 2026. | ||
| I mean, here in 2025, we had 135,000 already that came into the country. | ||
| And this is at a time when... | ||
| Between 2022 and 2025, we have had over 404,000 job cuts or layoffs from tech companies here in the U.S. And at the same time, between 2022 and 2025, we brought in a total of 583,000 H-1B workers alone. | ||
| And this doesn't include programs like STEM OPT and the L-1 visa. | ||
| For instance, and the AI is an important angle because that's the propaganda, Natalie, that's being used to say, oh, wow, we're shedding tech jobs because of AI. | ||
| Rubbish. | ||
| Absolute rubbish. | ||
| Microsoft just laid off 6,000 works, mostly AI engineers. | ||
| And again, now we're bringing in 120,000 H-1Bs, and you can bet they're highly subscribed to the H-1B visa program. | ||
| And the thing is this, there's absolutely no proof that AI is causing these layoffs, but we know what it is. | ||
| We know it is the H-1B visa program that has been used since 1990 to displace American white-collar Professional tech workers. | ||
| And now it's not even limited to tech workers. | ||
| We have accountants, all back office operations, being outsourced using H-1B visa-dependent consulting firms, which is step one after you do the knowledge transfer between the American and the H-1B visa worker. | ||
| Those jobs are being offshore to India, where 75% of our H-1B visa workers come from. | ||
| It's disgusting. | ||
| I find it quite analogous to the idea that we can't reshore manufacturing jobs because, you know, Americans won't do those jobs. | ||
| Kevin, before we let you go, how fixed are these numbers? | ||
| Is there any room for phone calls to be made to members of Congress? | ||
| Is this a White House thing? | ||
| Is there anything to be done? | ||
| Or can we only start making changes in 2027? | ||
| Or what is there to do? | ||
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We saw over COVID, when we had the restrictions put on immigration, we cut off the stream of H-1Bs and all of a sudden the layoffs of Americans ended. | |
| The president is well within his authority. | ||
| If there is not a need for these workers and there is not a legitimate need other than to increase the supply of workers who are more than willing and eager to displace Americans, that can be done. | ||
| I've mentioned STEM optional practical training. | ||
| This is a three-year work authorization document that's given to any foreign student who graduates with a STEM degree. | ||
| Understand why this is so popular among employers, because employers don't have to pay the employment taxes like Social Security and FICA. | ||
| And moreover, unlike the H-1B, where there's a prevailing wage, albeit lower than it should be, and it's set low because it's used to displace Americans because they can bring in cheaper workers, on a STEM OPT, the employer decides what they're going to pay them, because it's Practical training. | ||
| Now, STEM OPT and also program H4EAD, which is used to employ spouses of H1B workers. | ||
| These are classic cases for deference. | ||
| This is Chevron. | ||
| STEM OPT was a backroom deal between Bill Gates and Michael Chertoff. | ||
| This was not legislated into being. | ||
| This work authorization that actually is more subscribed to than the H-1B visa program, if you could imagine that, this could be simply overturned. | ||
| And it should be overturned as well as H-4EA. | ||
| H-4, the spouse employment authorization document, that can be overturned by the Trump administration. | ||
| Because again, when we went on Chevron, we demonstrated that these agencies should not be allowed to actually legislate. | ||
| And that's what they were doing. | ||
| They interfered with immigration law. | ||
| They created whole new categories of workers to bring into this country to be used to displace Americans. | ||
| So STEMOPT, H4EAD, should be gone tomorrow. | ||
| And as far as $120,000, because remember, the fiscal year is beginning in October. | ||
| These 120,000 that you had started the conversation off with, they have yet to arrive. | ||
| They can be halted midstream. | ||
| The president has within his capacity to do that. | ||
| We're going to have to be all over that. | ||
| I really think there's no issue that the American people have been more gaslit on or lied to than particularly the H-1B legal immigration issue. | ||
| It's quite insulting, right? | ||
| Apparently we're going to beat China in the tech race by giving out, I guess, the second largest country of H-1B recipients is China by giving out visas to people who are potentially beholden to the interests of the PRC. | ||
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Natalie, ask China how many H-1Bs they needed to leapfrog us into AI. | |
| The answer is zero. | ||
| They didn't need foreign workers. | ||
| In fact, the majority of the people working at Speak were... | ||
| Chinese nationals who did not study abroad. | ||
| So this whole thing about, oh, we need these foreign workers. | ||
| Number one, and this is really important if your audience doesn't know this already, people are selected for the H-1B visa not on merit, not on quality, but it's a lottery. | ||
| It's purely random. | ||
| Someone with a... | ||
| A BTEC degree from a community-type college has just as much chance of getting an H-1B visa as someone who has a PhD in computer science from Indian Institute of Technology. | ||
| These are not the best and brightest, and they are being used for one purpose. | ||
| And that is to displace Americans. | ||
| I have a good friend. | ||
| He's a retired scientist who worked at Lawrence Livermore. | ||
| And a few years ago, when we were talking about this, he looked at me and said, Kevin, Kevin, even back in the 60s, they thought we were expensive. | ||
| So it's something they've always been able to do. | ||
| The H-1B was instituted with the Immigration Act in 1990, and it was created for the sole purpose of displacing Americans. | ||
| And that can be legislated out of existence, but certainly the president can involve himself in the 120,000 that are coming in, and he could, if he desired, end STEM-OPT and H-4EAD overnight. | ||
| Even if you steel man it, it's still a horrible program. | ||
| Kevin Lynn, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| If people want to get in contact with you, follow everything that you guys are doing, learn how we can push back against this, where can they go to do that? | ||
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Best place to find us is on x at ustechworkers.com. | |
| Go to our website, sign at instituteforsoundpublicpolicy.org. | ||
| You can sign up for our bimonthly newsletter. | ||
| And more importantly, donate. | ||
| The more resources we have to fight this fight, the more effective we can be. | ||
| And Natalie, I just want to say to you and everyone in the war room, Real America's Voice, thank you. | ||
| Thank you for your enthusiasm on this, because it is you sounding the alarms, you keeping this in the, you know, we love passing the, we'll pass the data and the information to you, and we'll get out and get our activists rolling. | ||
| But you guys have just done seminal work in keeping the country fixated on this important issue. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Well, thank you, sir. | ||
| And the feeling is very mutual. | ||
| I'll have you back on soon. | ||
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Great. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Fun fact, the night I believe that the H-1B visa debate popped off and when Steve and I did that wonderful, I think two hour long deep dive into it, I became so radicalized on the whole H-1B thing. | ||
| I simultaneously stayed up all night listening to a wonderful book. | ||
| It was Michelle Malkin's book on the issue. | ||
| At two times speed, while simultaneously reading congressional hearings about all the lies that the American people had been told about the H-1B program, I became so radicalized on it, probably equal to the CCP. | ||
| So it's an issue that I'm extremely passionate about, if you can't tell, because I hate having my intelligence insulted by people who, frankly, you guys are smarter than. | ||
| And yes, this idea that these policies are so popular, yet they have to concoct them in backroom deals and never get them certified through the proper measures or let you take a vote on them is just absolutely... | ||
| insane. | ||
| It's an asinine. | ||
| Someone, though, who is always fighting the good fight, and I'm honored to have him on, it's been a very long time, is the one and only, and though I say that a lot, I truly mean this, the one and only, Congressman Tim Burchett, who joins us now. | ||
| Now, Congressman, you have been calling out your colleagues for not codifying a bunch of President Trump's EOs. | ||
| I think you guys have sent, what, like the least amount of legislation to his desk. | ||
| In 70 years, you've been calling them out in meetings and outside of meetings. | ||
| I wanted to bring you on because I'm curious. | ||
| What kind of reception that you're getting when you're calling these people out to their face for not following through on the coattails that they followed to victory that is the MAGA movement and President Trump? | ||
| Well, the war room folks love it. | ||
| Congress hates it. | ||
| And the reason they do is when I write my book, it's going to be called Compromise because everybody, you wonder why people fight good legislation. | ||
| It's because they're compromised. | ||
| Financial interest or someone owns their soul and has a financial interest and they exercise that right over their soul. | ||
| And that's what they do. | ||
| And that's why Washington's got us. | ||
| That's why we're $36 trillion in debt. | ||
| That's why the Chinese run commissaries in our military installations and gather information of our troop movements that way. | ||
| That's why the Chinese own farmland. | ||
| Control a commodity. | ||
| That's why they own property near our military installations. | ||
| They can keep an eye on them from there. | ||
| That's why a balloon of 1950s or '60s technology was allowed to float over the country, transverse it, turn around and go back and then come back again with 1960s technology. | ||
| They didn't. | ||
| They got people on the ground in every one of these areas. | ||
| They probably didn't need it. | ||
| They just wanted to see what our reaction would be. | ||
| And we failed. | ||
| And that's what we continue to do. | ||
| And whether it be drones or anything else flies over our country by our enemies, we just tend to look the other way. | ||
| And America is getting sick and tired of it. | ||
| And we've got to start reacting. | ||
| We just continuously Here in Congress, we thumb our nose. | ||
| The Republican conference or whatever put out a tweet yesterday, "America needs to get off the sidelines." And I just said, "That is embarrassing." And it was stupid. | ||
| America is not on the sidelines. | ||
| America is in the fight. | ||
| Congress is on the sidelines. | ||
| We've got to start codifying this stuff and quit saying, "Well, it's in the big, beautiful bill. | ||
| We've got to do this. | ||
| We've got to do that." Is American Pottery Makers Week, you know, we'll have bills on American pottery or something, and I'm making that up. | ||
| But that's about what happens. | ||
| And then you have, I don't really think that you've got so many of the chairmen that are necessarily corrupt, but I believe you have staff members that make big decisions in these committees. | ||
| I've had chairmen say, and our friend Matt Gates, and I talked about it one time. | ||
| Our chairman said, I can't do that. | ||
| My staff wouldn't let me. | ||
| You know, who elected the dadgum staff? | ||
| Nobody did. | ||
| And then I bring this up time and time and time again. | ||
| Case in point, I have a bill to defund the Taliban. | ||
| We send them about $40 million a week. | ||
| $40 million a week. | ||
| I have a State Department document. | ||
| It's five pages long. | ||
| It's not something written on a cocktail napkin. | ||
| It's legit. | ||
| And it says that we've given them around $5 billion with a B so far. | ||
| This is the Taliban. | ||
| This is the organization that's running Afghanistan right now, our enemies. | ||
| They throw gay people off of buildings. | ||
| They treat women like cattle. | ||
| They rape kids. | ||
| They're just horrible human beings. | ||
| And yet we're giving them $40 million a dadgum week. | ||
| And I can't. | ||
| Get the bill out. | ||
| I've got it. | ||
| Now the State Department's poked their big fat ass in the middle of it. | ||
| Excuse my language, but I'm kind of ticked off, as you can tell. | ||
| And we're working through all the concerns that all these different groups have. | ||
| And then the Democrats opposed it in committee. | ||
| It was voted out on a voice vote because they didn't want to go on the record. | ||
| But the ranking member said, "We want to take the NGOs out of it." Now, why would they take the NGOs out of it, non-government organizations? | ||
| I'll tell you why. | ||
| Because there's right at 1,000 NGOs right now working out of Afghanistan on your and my dime. | ||
| And that money, I think, that paper trail, as Elon Musk told me, goes right back to Washington. | ||
| I don't think it's going to campaigns. | ||
| I think it's going in elected officials' pockets. | ||
| There are family members that work over there. | ||
| Their wives and their girlfriends work for these so-called NGOs. | ||
| And it just goes on and on. | ||
| So we have got to quit electing these wishy-washy so-called conservatives. | ||
| It's a sad state of affairs when the Taliban has better lobbyists in Washington, D.C. than the American people do, although luckily we do have you, Congressman. | ||
| Congressman, I wish I could keep you longer, but we're coming up against the end of the show, so I've got to let you go. | ||
| If people want to follow you, if there's anything they can do, calls that they can make to help you get this bill out of committee or get a substantive vote on it, let us know where we can go to do either both or all the above. | ||
| We're so proud of you, Natalie. | ||
| Thank you for everything you're doing. | ||
| And the First Amendment's a beautiful thing. | ||
| And I'm glad that you're saying it. | ||
| So thank you, girl. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| We'll have you back on soon. | ||
| I think we are joined. | ||
| Before we go to our next guest, real quick, you've got to make sure you're checking out birchgold.com. | ||
| And you think all those fools that Congressman Birch was just talking about, you think they have your best financial interest at heart? | ||
| Definitely not. | ||
| I don't even think they know how to balance a budget if they had to, if a gun was to their head, metaphorically. | ||
| I don't think they could do it. | ||
| Trevor Comstock, you got about a minute and a half. | ||
| Hit us with the latest deals you got going on for the War Room Posse. | ||
| Yeah, great to see you, Natalie. | ||
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I'm collagen's number one fan, all the types. | |
| If only we should get maybe some of our elected Republicans up here so they'd be a little bit stronger. | ||
| I don't think they'd be flexible on compromising with the Democrats, but they could certainly use a backbone, maybe too. | ||
| Trevor, thank you for joining us. | ||
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| I will see you back here tomorrow at 6 p.m. |
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