May 9, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
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The people have had a belly full of it. | |
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
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I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | |
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| All right, folks, we're about ready to discuss Globo. | ||
| Global geopolitics with one of our good friends, the war room, Brian Costello. | ||
| But before we go there, before we get to the discussion of instability, I just want to call out our good friends at Birch Gold. | ||
| Steve Bannon has done yeoman's work on all the BRICS country, the attack on the dollar, the attack on the American institutions. | ||
| Creating global insecurity right now, right? | ||
| The Trump agenda, the make America great again, mega. | ||
| That is the good news, folks. | ||
| Buckle up. | ||
| But it's going to be unstable for a few months as all the 100 countries lined up work out their agreements with the U.S. But they are coming. | ||
| I was with several countries the other night. | ||
| They're all eager, in line. | ||
| Everybody knows what fairness looks like. | ||
| And if we get fairness straight, we're going to grow. | ||
| And it's not just zero tariffs. | ||
| It's way more than that. | ||
| And Brian will probably mention that. | ||
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| All right. | ||
| Let's turn over to China. | ||
| And Brian Costello is with us. | ||
| He's been on the War Room many times. | ||
| He's a favorite when he comes on. | ||
| He's all substance, no frills. | ||
| And so, Brian, bring us up to date. | ||
| Any news that's noticeable in the last month moves away from China firms getting their supply chain straight? | ||
| The investments in the U.S., do we have good news to report or is it still kind of status quo? | ||
| You know, I think, Dave, they put a spotlight. | ||
| I mean, one thing Trump did again that was brilliant, right, is he put a spotlight on this. | ||
| So we now know in terms of the tariffs what our weaknesses are, right? | ||
| We have a huge weakness in critical minerals. | ||
| We knew about the medical supply chain back from COVID. | ||
| So what we've been able to do is kind of figure out, like, okay, in the economic war, China's been waging on us. | ||
| Where are our lever points back? | ||
| And where are we dependent? | ||
| And how do we gear up the country to end the dependency? | ||
| So there's a lot of effort to figure out. | ||
| You know, we signed a deal with Ukraine on the rare earth, critical minerals. | ||
| The real problem with that is refinement. | ||
| So China has some leverage in the underlying substrates that are a lot of the technology infrastructure we have. | ||
| You know, but at the same time, we have a lot of leverage in the consumption in our market and how dependent China is in terms of exporting into that consumption. | ||
| So it's interesting to see it play out. | ||
| There's a big weekend here, right? | ||
| You got Secretary Besant is meeting with the Chinese for the first time. | ||
| Trump and his classic, you know, Part of the deal threw out 80%, I think, on TrueSocial. | ||
| So trying to set the bar high as Bessink goes into a negotiation. | ||
| So we'll see what happens here. | ||
| I'd buckle in, though. | ||
| This is going to be a long process. | ||
| Yeah, what's your commentary? | ||
| I don't mean to throw you in the weeds here, but, you know, the mainstream media was all got hyper over Trump's chart on tariffs, you know, and the one-half deal, and it was basically correlated with the size of the trade deficit. | ||
| But then I put up charts on the War Room Bank of America and the World Bank and PwC, PricewaterCoopers, big, you know. | ||
| Also have charts showing all, all the G20 countries have two to three hundred percent the tariffs we have on them, right? | ||
| Two times to three times, all of them, all the rich countries. | ||
| China's way more. | ||
| And so what do you see as the end game here? | ||
| You know, a lot of people on our side of the football are saying it's not about zero tariffs. | ||
| Even if you do a zero-tariff thing with, like, UK, the deal that just came in, we're going to have higher tariffs on them than they have on us because of all the unfair practices and taxes they level on us. | ||
| And so what do you see as a reasonable endgame that we can explain to the mainstream media because they simply don't understand what it means to put America first? | ||
| I think there's a bunch of things. | ||
| The first thing we need to do is we need to make sure that we keep our markets stable, our treasury and our equity markets, so that we don't break capital formation in the US as part of this Uber negotiation thing. | ||
| I think that's extremely important. | ||
| I think they've done some good steps. | ||
| Part of that is actually some of the negotiations. | ||
| Japan buys a lot of our treasuries. | ||
| They're in a negotiation and holding that up. | ||
| I think we need to keep things stable. | ||
| We need to level the playing field. | ||
| And then we need to get the partners on our side against China, who not just on tariffs, but manipulating currency, state enterprises, backing industries, closed capital accounts, really effectively closing its market out to the number two economy in the world. | ||
| We need to get everybody on our side on that. | ||
| So I think hopefully you'll start to see folks. | ||
| Fall in line. | ||
| I think Secretary Besson's mentioned there's 18 or 19 countries that are really important. | ||
| You know, they announced one the other day, which is the United Kingdom. | ||
| I think Japan, Mexico, Canada was just with Trump. | ||
| And I think, you know, for the next six months or for the year, because then you start talking about the midterms, you really see a maniacal focus on this. | ||
| Some might pull a China and wait until, you know, they notice there's some pressure from elections to resolve things. | ||
| So I expect this to play out for a while. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Give us a little commentary also on the capital flows, right? | ||
| So, you know, if we cut down on our imports on Chinese goods, then the capital flows, right? | ||
| We get the goods. | ||
| We give them a piece of paper. | ||
| They get the capital. | ||
| And then they buy stuff, treasuries or land in the U.S. or Pebble Beach. | ||
| And so, you know, the free trade folks. | ||
| You know, make the argument, hey, that's just the flip side of the current account is the capital account and it's all fine and dandy. | ||
| But the America First doesn't agree with that. | ||
| So how do we land that plane taking into account their argument and how do we win that argument? | ||
| You know, one of the things they need to focus on, I don't know that they're, you know, we're obviously we're not inside the trade deals, but they need to focus on the closed capital accounts in China. | ||
| We have a lot of companies. | ||
| Right, that have cash on their balance sheet that they can't get out of China. | ||
| We have a lot of investment that's gone into China on the equity side that they can't get. | ||
| This is what China does for leverage, right, Dave? | ||
| They let all these elite invest in sweetheart deals aligned with the Chinese government into China. | ||
| And then they can't get their money out. | ||
| The only way they might get their money out is through an IPO in the US. | ||
| So therefore, they negotiate to open the IPO door for Chinese companies again, who then commit fraud. | ||
| And it all gets dumped, you know, in line with the populist movement, it all gets dumped on the American people. | ||
| So I think there's a lot of, we need to really be focused on China's closed capital account and not letting any of our companies take money out of China, too. | ||
| That's a huge, huge advantage to them. | ||
| They're able to shepherd all these dollars and these investments in China, and it's a big problem. | ||
| You know, I'll throw something out there. | ||
| You were talking about taxes a little bit. | ||
| Maybe we could find mutual ground. | ||
| Make mutual ground in Washington and tax the investments into China, you know, make sure the carried interest, which is when you make an investment into China, you know, and you're an endowment and you get an endowment gets no taxes on it, right? | ||
| Maybe we shouldn't have an American universities invest into China through their endowments and not paying any taxes on the return on capital. | ||
| Yeah, no, that's great, man. | ||
| I wish I should have. | ||
| Booked you for a half-hour block. | ||
| Once you get going on this, the logic just spins. | ||
| Last question for the America First folks. | ||
| You just spoke about these sweetheart deals, and that's true. | ||
| The big folks on Wall Street and the capital markets get deals not available to the American people. | ||
| Besant has made very powerful remarks. | ||
| Hey, it's not your turn anymore, Wall Street. | ||
| It's the turn of Main Street. | ||
| And I think that is the dominant shift. | ||
| And so do you see that turning around under Trump, these sweetheart deals that only the bigs get? | ||
| Is there a way of democratizing the capital so the American people get some of these returns? | ||
| Not with China. | ||
| But with the rest of the world instead of China. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| I'll get into a macro. | ||
| My favorite subject that I like to fight with Steve a little bit on Twitter is we've got something really interesting we've got to keep our eye on. | ||
| I'm going to answer this question a little bit different. | ||
| And I'm doing something in the space, Dave. | ||
| But we've got right now one of the things we need to make sure of. | ||
| We've got a lot of the big, most powerful... | ||
| And because there's so much focus on the tariff and the trade side, we've got a lot of the biggest, most powerful companies in the world that are doing stuff on the AI, autonomy, robotics side that's going to replace labor. | ||
| And a lot of it's hidden. | ||
| So it's, you know, Google has Waymo at self-driving cars and they're announcing, you know, so you're literally going to see Uber and Lyft go away. | ||
| Uber and Lyft drivers lose their job to self-driving cars. | ||
| And we need to be very careful with the artificial intelligence and concentrating that power in the top companies in the world who've showed that, you know, that they will not look out for the interest of the American people and shareholders first. | ||
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Right. | |
| So I think that's something big. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, no, you're spot on. | ||
| I mean, I taught economics for 20 years, and it's, you know, monopolies and oligopolies do not deliver the best goods at the lowest prices with variety, not to mention the political power they accrue. | ||
| And so we could go on and on forever. | ||
| Brian, thanks for being with us on The War Room. | ||
| We'll get you back on again for some more. | ||
| Once the dialogue opens, I could go all day, and this really matters. | ||
| So thanks for your work, Brian. | ||
| Thanks for being with us. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And congratulations to your students, Steve, at Liberty. | ||
| So good work there. | ||
| Yeah, you bet. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| You too. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We've got Catherine O 'Neill with us. | ||
| Catherine, the floor is yours. | ||
| Anything you want to react to policy-wise that you've heard and then make your pitch to the Warren, which is not a hard pitch to make. | ||
| We're all a bunch of your fans. | ||
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Hi, Dr. Brad. | |
| It's so great to see you. | ||
| Thanks for having me on. | ||
| Yes, so I'm the founder and CEO of Meriwether Farms, which is an all-natural beef company out here in Wyoming. | ||
| And as many of you know, we control the majority of the process, so you know where your beef is coming from 100% of the time. | ||
| A deal we're doing, you'll see right on the screen, is our burger blowout. | ||
| You guys ask for it all the time. | ||
| It's 30 pounds of our premium ground beef. | ||
| You can truly taste the difference from the beef in the grocery stores. | ||
| No hormones, no antibiotics, no nonsense. | ||
| So go to meriwetherfarms.com right now and you'll see it right on the homepage. | ||
| No promo code needed. | ||
| Get it while it's in stock because this stuff flies off our shelves. | ||
| Yeah, that's great, Catherine. | ||
| Give us a little more. | ||
| We don't mention Maha, Make America Healthy Again. | ||
| Several family members in the health professions, and we see kids in the hospitals like I never heard of. | ||
| I mean, there's just atrocious stuff happening. | ||
| Give us a little word of how you're connected with that movement and why you're an improvement to American health. | ||
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Yeah, absolutely. | |
| I think it was an integral part of Trump's campaign in 2024, the Maha component of Trump's campaign. | ||
| This is how we're going to keep our future generations healthy and productive if we start with food. | ||
| You see a lot of really weird substances in our food supply. | ||
| Tyson Foods last week just announced that they're removing some synthetic dyes from their food, which they should have never put in the first place. | ||
| But what happens is that these big companies throw money around Washington. | ||
| I mean, you saw it when you were a member of Congress. | ||
| And they lobby these congressmen to do shady things. | ||
| And so good on Secretary Kennedy for pressing these big companies to make their food healthier and better for the American people. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| We all love you, what you do, and your product. | ||
| And so please support Meriwether Farms, folks. | ||
| Go out there. | ||
| She's doing the right thing for your health, for the country, for MAGA, for America First. | ||
| I have not been ball-hugging. | ||
| We had technical difficulties with Ben Harnwell. | ||
| He's going to come back after the break and host the rest of the show. | ||
| We had a little technical difficulties. | ||
| But we had the great Ryan Castello on, and very happy we had him on. | ||
| I'm going to keep that conversation going in the weeks to come, God willing. | ||
| And so thanks for letting me be with you all. | ||
| It's always an honor and a pleasure to be with the War Room, with the posse. | ||
| I get great comments from all of you. | ||
| God bless, and I'll see you soon. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | |
| Welcome back to the show. | ||
| Welcome back to the show. | ||
| Harnwell here at the helm, filling in for Stephen K. Bannon, who's off on assignment. | ||
| My thanks to Dave Bratt, who was very admirably holding the show right there. | ||
| We're here in the shadow of the Vatican, and we're going to be breaking down in just one moment. | ||
| The momentous news of the new Pope, the new anti-Pope, perhaps. | ||
| We'll talk about that in just a few minutes. | ||
| But first, let's go to Glenn's story from Patriot Mobile. | ||
| Glenn, thanks for coming on. | ||
| Just tell me first, if you wouldn't mind, just before giving us the pitch, tell us, do you have any take on Pope Leo XIV? | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| I've heard mixed reviews. | ||
| I don't know a great deal about it. | ||
| I'm not Catholic, but I have been following the story. | ||
| And, you know, I've heard he's a registered Republican. | ||
| I've heard that he does votes Republican. | ||
| But I've also heard he's kind of DEI and woke. | ||
| And, you know, I'm concerned a little bit. | ||
| But, look, God put him in place, and hopefully he leans, you know, let's just say on the belief of God and follows God's word. | ||
| Glenn, you actually, by the way, we'll talk about Patriot Mobile in just a moment, but you actually said something there that's been playing on my head, on my mind, since I first started to hear reports that former Cardinal Prevost, now Pope Leo XIV, is a registered Republican. | ||
| That can mean a multiplicity of things, right? | ||
| It could mean he was sort of a big supporter. | ||
| I mean, he's in support of John McCain, just looking at some of the principal rhinos in the GOP. | ||
| It doesn't necessarily mean that the guy is MAGA. | ||
| It doesn't necessarily mean that the guy was out there supporting Donald J. Trump and his agenda and his administration. | ||
| And that's obviously to say everything that the Warren Posse knows very well. | ||
| there is a civil war going on inside the GOP at the moment. | ||
| I guess we'll find out what type of Republican the new Pope is. | ||
| But it is interesting that you mention that, because this is being the first American Pope. | ||
| This is the first time that the Catholic Church has had someone at the top of the apex. | ||
| The successor to St. Peter himself, who is a registered Republican, I think the way it's going to work out is that it broadly means he will be... | ||
| Relatively secure on the pro-life issues, on those issues, probably though he's going to tack closer on the economic things to the rhino agenda that we're obviously so committed to opposing. | ||
| That's right, dude. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| No, go ahead, please. | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| That's really what it boils down to. | ||
| Look at it. | ||
| Life. | ||
| You know the scripture. | ||
| He knew us before we were in the womb. | ||
| He knitted us together. | ||
| Life is the single most important issue we look at today. | ||
| Let's just say if your pope doesn't believe in life, then that's a big issue. | ||
| None of the other stuff really matters. | ||
| You know, we know there's rhinos out there. | ||
| They've been out there forever. | ||
| And, you know, a rhino or the Trump Republicans are not the same. | ||
| So, you know, we just hope that the pope leads the church in biblical ways, right? | ||
| The Bible is Jesus. | ||
| It's his word. | ||
| It's about him. | ||
| And we just hope that, you know, we follow the scripture. | ||
| Glenn, tell us a bit then about the office today for Patriot Mobile. | ||
| Well, you know, it's pretty simple. | ||
| I think the War Room Posse is pretty familiar with who we are. | ||
| We're a God-first, Christian-based company. | ||
| You know, he's at the helm of our business, and we're his stewards. | ||
| And what's really interesting about Patriot is we just try to serve our customers in a way that they want to be served. | ||
| Carve out a portion of every dollar and donate back to what I would consider biblical principles as the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, right to life and military and first responders. | ||
| And there's a group of folks who just love what we stand for. | ||
| When you call us, you're going to speak to a redneck like me here in Texas, or you're going to speak to a Californian. | ||
| And then the other side of it, you get the donation piece. | ||
| You know, it's a great business. | ||
| And you know, the War Room Posse has been incredibly supportive of us. | ||
| Just Glenn, tell me, just to wheel back a little bit when you were talking about how important your faith in Jesus Christ is behind the whole of the Patriot Mobile philosophy, and the way you were talking about the importance, even as a non-Catholic perspective that you have, of the leadership, the moral Christian leadership that the Pope can give. | ||
| I want to pick up on something that you were saying, in fact. | ||
| We'll come back to this point about Cardinal Prevost, now Pope, Leo XIV, being a registered public, because I think it's capable of leading some people astray. | ||
| I think, and we'll see this as it breaks down, but I think the way this is going to break down is that we're going to see more of a Mitt Romney, when the guy says he's a registered Republican, I think that means that we're going to see more of a Mitt Romney thing. | ||
| And when you think about it... | ||
| A Mitt Romney dynamic. | ||
| But when you think about it, and this is really the heart of what the war room's about, that's the real agenda to Donald Trump, to the MAGA agenda. | ||
| It doesn't even come from the Democrats. | ||
| It's really coming from this faction of the Republican Party, of the GOP. | ||
| Has lost its hold on power and desperately wants to try to take it back. | ||
| So looking at that, and as I say, we're within 24 hours at the moment here. | ||
| We'll be watching how these events... | ||
| And roll themselves over what will seem to be our coming years. | ||
| But I actually think the fact that the guy is a registered Republican looking at his social media over the last few years, some of the criticisms he's put out there against Donald Trump, I actually think that this is going to be a point of opposition. | ||
| But that was a great thing that you mentioned. | ||
| I think it's important to flag that up for the Warren Posse. | ||
| Just before you go, then, once again, would you just remind the folks where they can go to learn more about Patriot Mobile, possibly look at the products that you're offering? | ||
| Yeah, well, the fastest way is patriotmobile.com forward slash Bannon. | ||
| You can learn all about us. | ||
| But I do want to just bring up one thing that's really cool. | ||
| We're sponsoring... | ||
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| Excuse me. | ||
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| And we're going to be at every one. | ||
| We've got some sweepstakes prizes that everybody that enrolls will get. | ||
| Not enrolls. | ||
| You don't have to buy anything to register. | ||
| But anybody that participates. | ||
| Actually gets a chance to go to a VIP function down in Florida, one of his last shows, and at every show we're giving away a signed guitar by Jason, and they're going to be running commercials because, look, I think the War Room Posse and Jason Aldean's crowd are very similar in nature. | ||
| You know, they love their country, they love God, and they really want to see our country grow and become more prosperous. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Glenn, sorry, many thanks indeed for coming on today. | ||
| And just close there with some great news, I think, for all of the country music devotees to the war. | ||
| And we'll catch up again with you soon. | ||
| And thanks for your insights as well about Pope Leo XIV. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| Have a blessed day, brother. | ||
| Let's go to Jenny Holland now. | ||
| Before we go to our break in a couple of minutes, Jenny came on the show, folks, you might remember this, when I was sort of doing some filling in for Steve when he was at Danbury Spa, and the feedback just absolutely exploded, Jenny. | ||
| You'll remember this, because you mentioned that as someone formerly of an agnostic stroke, atheistic background, you'd actually started to take up praying the rosary, and you were talking about it on a daily basis, and you were talking about the spiritual. | ||
| Reward that you're already starting to see in your life. | ||
| And I have to say, of all the pieces I did on the show in that period, that was probably the one I think that had the most dramatic impact. | ||
| I'm very grateful that you've come on to the show today. | ||
| Tell me, basically, from that background, from someone who had an atheistic, agnostic background, and someone who started just picking up one of the principal Catholic devotionals that had fallen into disuse right across the West, tell me what your first reaction is to the election of this new American pope. | ||
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I want to preface everything I'm going to say with a huge dollop of humility, because far be it from me to position myself as an expert on the Vatican or the Pope or anything like that. | |
| I mean, I've been following the criticisms of the Vatican under Francis very closely, actually. | ||
| And I was aware that there was certain cardinals who were considered more traditional and that now Pope Leo is not necessarily one of those. | ||
| I take all of those concerns very seriously because I don't think there's a future, again, with the utmost humility, not being a fully-fledged member. | ||
| I don't think there's a future for the Catholic Church if it does not return to the more traditional aspects of it. | ||
| It's neither fish nor fowl nor good red herring if it stays in the sort of Francis no-man's land. | ||
| So I take all of those worries seriously. | ||
| However, I have been somewhat heartened. | ||
| Today, to see a host of clips of the new Pope taking very kind of common sense, perhaps centrist, but at least common sense positions on things like gender and borders. | ||
| You'd think that these are the most basic building blocks of society, and also, perhaps, I am falling into a trap of being overly optimistic or Pollyanna-ish, but Given the state of division that I think the West is in right now, maybe there's an argument to be made that he can help bridge some of that. | ||
| Jenny, we're going to dig down on that point just after this ad break coming up. | ||
| Jenny Holland writes for both Substack and Spiked. | ||
| We're back with her insights in just 10 seconds' time. | ||
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Don't go away Oh Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | |
| Welcome back. | ||
| So earlier on in the show, we were talking about the possibly financial calculations that the conclave were considering in the choice of the new Pope, because the Holy See is in massive financial difficulty right now, and a lot of the... | ||
| Substantial American benefactors had been withdrawing their support under the Bergoglio Antique Pontificate because the guy had made it clear constantly over 12 years that he was against American free market capitalism. | ||
| But what Jenny Holland was saying there just before the break is really what the Catholic Church is about, because it's not an NGO, it's not a financial organisation, it's not a human traffic organisation, even if those are the things that it's spent the last decade on pushing down on. | ||
| It's fundamentally a supernatural institution created by Jesus Christ for the salvation of souls. | ||
| Jenny, let me come back to you about that point you were making, that sort of, that expression you used of neither fish nor fowl. | ||
| Tell me how important it is from all of the same generation. | ||
| How important do you think it is for people of our generation, many people who are searching for some meaning in their lives, some framework around which to draw meaning in a world without a great deal of visible faith. | ||
| How important do you think it is that the Catholic Church has Absolutely. | ||
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I think its importance is everything. | |
| It's all important. | ||
| I think for people like me who are former atheists, very secular, left-wing, indie kids, all grown up and facing middle age, if we wanted sort of happy, clappy, modern, guitar-playing Christianity, we can get that literally anywhere and everywhere. | ||
| Every institution is set up to provide that. | ||
| The fact that we don't want it is the tell, and that should be the signal to the church to correct its course and go back to the things that made it unique in the first place. | ||
| I think that clearly our modern contemporary lifestyle has engendered a spiritual crisis that is certainly unseen in my lifetime. | ||
| I mean, probably... | ||
| Well, definitely in my lifetime, let's say. | ||
| And the fact that people like me are yearning for the older ways. | ||
| It's something that needs to be listened to. | ||
| I think that the modern, more liberal, more progressive churches in the United States are not flourishing. | ||
| It is the conservative churches and the traditional churches, the Latin mass being a very good example of this, churches that are most in demand. | ||
| And that has to be picked up on. | ||
| I want to bring in Liz Yorite now. | ||
| Liz, you're obviously very well known to the warrior and posse, someone who's constantly... | ||
| Pushing, promoting the rights of children, the rights of the family. | ||
| And you've often been pushing against the lack of leadership that was provided by the late unlamented Pope. | ||
| But let me ask you this question following on what Jenny Holland was just saying there about this spiritual aspect. | ||
| Is that very much your reaction too? | ||
| That there's been a spiritual crisis in the Catholic Church rather than just simply the... | ||
| Yeah, Jenny's put her finger on it, precisely. | ||
| It's all been about process. | ||
| Synodal, synodal, synodal. | ||
| And what we know is the new synodal... | ||
| Church is the death knell for Catholicism. | ||
| This church was not built on process, listening, accompanying. | ||
| It was built on the truth of Jesus Christ. | ||
| And that is what has been lost, certainly in the last 12 years. | ||
| And when I recently, last night, I watched the new Pope's Q&A at his old church in the south side of Chicago. | ||
| And he was... | ||
| It was 2024. | ||
| He was a cardinal. | ||
| He had been at the Vatican as head of the dicastery. | ||
| And all he talked about was the synodal way and talked about process and about listening and being, you know, the kind and soft and gentle church. | ||
| It sounded like, frankly, you know, a 60s hippie. | ||
| And what concerns me, and I told you this morning, Ben, I think we've been played again. | ||
| Prevost was a dark horse, not mentioned in the media and even in the Catholic media, thank you, until Steve Bannon said, wait a minute, I'm hearing Prevost. | ||
| And the reason, my argument is, the reason we were not, we didn't hear about him and he was kept under wraps, is because there was no ability to vet him to find out what his history is in Peru. | ||
| Now, of course, it's coming up. | ||
| That there were cases of cover-up. | ||
| We're going to find out more. | ||
| And, you know, so this is what I feel like we've been played all along. | ||
| That there was a psy-op that was going on. | ||
| They were pushing other candidates. | ||
| We'll continue to find out how this rolled out. | ||
| Obviously, the gravity of the office of Pope will bring special graces to this man. | ||
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Hopefully, he will respond. | |
| Liz, let me come back to that point. | ||
| By the way, you're absolutely right that Steve Bannon had spent the last ten days flagging up Cardinal Prevost and the danger that he posed. | ||
| Let me ask you this question, then, from what you were just saying about this new pope and the fact that you said that conservatives had been played in that conclave. | ||
| Could you just say a little bit more about that, what you mean by that? | ||
| Well, what I'm concerned about is that Cardinal Cupich, the American delegation, had eyed him as prevost as a possible replacement for Francis a long time ago, and he had placed him in the Vatican in a prominent position. | ||
| They did certainly keep the wraps on him. | ||
| They understood precisely where his... | ||
| Theology was. | ||
| He was climate change, big on the COVID shutdown, certainly a huge proponent of migration, which is the centerpiece of destroying not only America, but Western civilization and Europe, as we now see. | ||
| So my concern is that he was the ideal candidate to keep... | ||
| You know, in their back pocket and to pull him out once the conclave started voting. | ||
| I mean, think about this. | ||
| A man we'd never heard about in four short votes becomes the Pope? | ||
| I mean, it's, you know, he's a cardinal only a short period of time. | ||
| I mean, look, I come from Chicago. | ||
| I'm now watching all the news, you know, with the Bears jerseys and he's a White Sox fan and, oh, this is so cool. | ||
| I mean, when the church is in crisis, These kinds of commentary are just silly. | ||
| It's time to focus on a church in crisis. | ||
| My real concern is, and possibly Jenny will agree with me, my concern is what is going to happen to the church in America. | ||
| Although he's an American, he holds dual passports, dual citizenship. | ||
| So my real concern is that it's all about synodal. | ||
| You heard that in his opening statement from the loggia. | ||
| He is a synodal pope through and through. | ||
| And that is a recipe for disaster. | ||
| And we're going to see it in our local parishes. | ||
| We're going to see it in our bulletins, and it's going to be implemented. | ||
| And what Synodal is, is a political ideology that is pushing migration and climate change. | ||
| It's not pushing or promoting the teaching of Jesus Christ. | ||
| Liz, let me just pass over and give the last two minutes to Jenny Holland on that one. | ||
| Migration and climate change. | ||
| You're the only person I know, Jenny, who's a non-Catholic who prays. | ||
| Tell me, when you see the exponents of the Catholic hierarchy pushing these issues, does it make it easier for you to continue with these Catholic devotionals, or is it putting an obstacle in your path? | ||
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Well, it doesn't put an obstacle in the path of my daily rosary practice, which I'm still doing, and I'm on currently over a hundred-day street. | |
| But it does... | ||
| Make me leery of the institution. | ||
| So what happens in your home is one thing. | ||
| Joining the institution is another. | ||
| And I take your point, Ben, about the Mitt Romney comparison. | ||
| And I certainly take Liz's points about this inodality and all of that stuff that you know much more than I do. | ||
| But what I can say for certain is that whatever has been awakened among the people, a sense of spiritual awakening, that cannot be undone, even by a Mitt Romney-esque pope, which again, I have no idea if he is or not. | ||
| I hope he isn't. | ||
| But what's happening on the ground and what's happening person to person... | ||
| Isn't going to be shut down by even a woke pope, in my opinion. | ||
| Jenny, very, very grateful for you coming on the show. | ||
| Where do people go to keep up with your writings on Substack, which I very strongly recommend. | ||
| You've written sort of movingly about the spiritual journey that you want on Substack, but also on Spiked. | ||
| Where can they go on social media to keep up with you? | ||
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I'm SemperFemina21 on X, and the substack is JennyEHolland.substack, or Saving Culture From Itself, which is the title. | |
| Jenny, thanks for coming back on the show. | ||
| We'll catch up, no doubt, again with you soon as this pontificate rolls on. | ||
| Liz, where do people go to keep up with your writings on social media, your analysis, your observations, your warnings? | ||
| I'm everywhere on social media under Elizabeth Yor, and also my website is yourchildren.com. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you both very much for coming on the show. | ||
| Quickly, in the final two minutes of this before we go to the ad, Mike Davis, good morning to you. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
| Mike. | ||
| Tell me first up, then, as an Irish-American, proud Catholic, I hope, what was your first reactions when you see a fellow American coming out on the balcony, on the lodger? | ||
| Look, I want to give the new pope time to make his way. | ||
| I'm concerned he's a—I'm concerned this is a leftist pope. | ||
| Following our last leftist pope, but I want to give Pope Leo the chance to show the world how he wants to lead the Catholic Church. | ||
| I saw interviews with the pope's American brothers. | ||
| I thought they humanized him quite a bit. | ||
| Pope Leo seems like a very good man who has done a lot of good things in Peru. | ||
| As a missionary or whatever the hell he's doing down in South America, let's just hope that he keeps the church focused on Catholic faith and works instead of woke ideology like the last pope. | ||
| Warren Posse, I'm sure you will have got your notepad and paper out writing very concerned notes to yourselves that Mike Davies doesn't seem to be entirely on message with the wall line. | ||
| We're going to obviously need to put the thumbscrews on him there. | ||
| Just tell me just in 30 seconds before we go to the break, Mike, did you see anything on American cable news that gave you cause for concern over the last 12, 24 hours? | ||
| I'm the new pope. | ||
| I heard his brothers say that he's going to be not much different from the last Marxist pope, so that causes concern. | ||
| Look, I'm a Catholic, probably not as good as I should be, but I went to 13 years of Catholic school. | ||
| Let's hope this isn't a Marxist pope, because he needs to bring back the flock and not repel them. | ||
| The Vatican's 100 yards away. | ||
| We're going to take Mike Davies down to the dungeons there, put on the thumbscrews. | ||
| Back with Mike Davies and Mike Lee. | ||
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Welcome back. | |
| Well, many people in the war room who've been following the culture wars for a number of years will know the name of Ed Martin. | ||
| He was... | ||
| The legendary Phyllis Schlafly's disciple, basically, and took over from her winning the Eagle Forum, also a U.S. attorney representing Donald Trump. | ||
| Mike, tell me there's been some... | ||
| It didn't quite go forward, though, right, with Ed Martin on the Hill. | ||
| Tell us a bit about what has happened to him, because this was a great guy. | ||
| Did the Republicans not come out to support him? | ||
| What happened? | ||
| That's exactly right, because Republicans are weak and feckless, and they proved that they're weak and feckless again. | ||
| Ed Martin is a very good man. | ||
| He's a good friend of mine. | ||
| Trump made him the interim D.C. U.S. attorney. | ||
| That's a 120-day appointment. | ||
| And then Trump nominated him for the permanent job for four years. | ||
| And the Senate Republicans... | ||
| Who confirmed, you know, Rachel Rollins got confirmed by Biden, the U.S. attorney in Boston, who was extremely controversial. | ||
| A lot of these Republicans voted to confirm Merrick Garland and so many other Biden controversial picks. | ||
| But they just couldn't stomach Ed Martin's politics because Ed Martin is too conservative and too controversial for these country club Republicans in the Senate. | ||
| They torpedoed Ed Martin's nomination for the D.C. U.S. attorney, but they're going to get someone who's even more bold, fearless, and tougher with Judge Jeanine Pirro, which is just phenomenal that Judge Jeanine has agreed to do this. | ||
| She's making a huge personal sacrifice to go do this 120-day D.C. U.S. attorney appointment. | ||
| She gave up, you know, she has a huge box contract. | ||
| Lives a good life in New York, and she's going to move to the swamp, D.C. And I would say the biggest winners of this are the poor black families in D.C. trapped in these crime-ridden D.C. neighborhoods. | ||
| And the biggest losers are going to be these oligarchs who are grifting off of Ukraine and these violent... | ||
| Criminals in D.C. Judge Dineen's not going to put up with it. | ||
| And oh, Ed Martin, by the way, they left him for dead on the side of the road. | ||
| Ed Martin's now going to go to the Deputy Attorney General's office where Ed Martin's going to be working on presidential pardon for President Trump. | ||
| So not only has Ed not gone away, they've only emboldened him. | ||
| So good work, Senate Republicans. | ||
| You once again proved how weak and feckless you are. | ||
| Mike Davis, you're the number one person that I know between the ambit of the Supreme Court and the Senate GOP, holding their feet to the fire. | ||
| Just before you jump, just tell me, do you think that Ed Martin had enough fire cover, air cover, with the Ed Martin nomination? | ||
| Do you think the administration did all it could to steer that through? | ||
| Putting the thumbscrews onto the feckless... | ||
| GOP senators? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| President Trump personally lobbied Senate Republicans for this. | ||
| The Article III Projects did a huge phone-to-action campaign at article3project.org. | ||
| Jack did a lot. | ||
| Cernovich did a lot. | ||
| Will Chamberlain and Josh Hammer at Article III Projects. | ||
| We did a lot to help. | ||
| Ed Martin, through the politics of this, he should have been confirmed, but our weak sisters in the Senate Republican caucus couldn't stomach the fact that Ed Martin thought that the election was rigged and stolen in 2020 because it was, and he supported January 6th defendants because they were persecuted, according to the Supreme Court's Fisher ruling. | ||
| So just let that news filter in. | ||
| President Trump himself hit the phones and was personally lobbying US senators, and they turned their back on him. | ||
| Warren Posse, they didn't turn their back simply on POTUS. | ||
| They turned their back on you, the War Room audience. | ||
| Mike Davies, where do people go to keep up with your unique analysis in this sphere of just the betrayal taking place at an institutional level? | ||
| I would say to these weak Republican sisters in the Senate, revenge is best served cold and revenge is coming. | ||
| So prepare for it from the Article III Project. | ||
| You can go to article3project.org, article3project.org. | ||
| You can follow us on social media. | ||
| You can donate, but only what you can afford, please. | ||
| The most important thing you do is take action. | ||
| We came very close on Ed Martin, and revenge is coming to these Senate Republicans who stabbed him in the back. | ||
| Mike Davies, thanks very much. | ||
| Catch up again with you soon. | ||
| God bless for now. | ||
| Mike Lindell, if there was a man that we needed at some point over the last 12 years to put a pillow on the face of the Bergoglian anti-papacy, it was you. | ||
| What have you got for us today? | ||
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| Mike Lindell, many thanks indeed. | ||
| We'll catch up again with you on the show soon. | ||
| This has been Ben Harnwell filling in for Stephen K. Bannon today. | ||
| My special thanks to Russ, Spacey, and the entire team at Turning Point USA for Jack Posobiec, who's very kindly lent us his studio facilities here in the shadow of the Vatican, where we've been broadcasting today. | ||
| We keep our prayers for Pope Leo XIV as he embarks on this new pontificate, but we'll also keep a sharp eye out for any signs of betrayal. | ||
| Catch you later. |
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