May 5, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | ||
| Monday, 5 May, Year of the Lord, 2025. | ||
| Okay, MTG, because over the weekend she was up about all this, about the Capitol Hill guys not supporting President Trump and the base on what they want to see done. | ||
| We didn't get into the other part, which is the deconstruction of the administrative state, take down the deep state, all these other aspects. | ||
| And the reason is we have the great Tom Fenton, who was kind enough to say, hey, I can come by today and do this in person. | ||
| So, Fenton, here's a question. | ||
| This Article 2, or the unitary executive, he's chief executive officer of the United States government. | ||
| He can cut money. | ||
| He can fire personnel. | ||
| Number two, he's commander-in-chief of the armed forces. | ||
| He can attack, send bad guys out of the country. | ||
| He can call for military action. | ||
| Number three, which is sometimes lost, sometimes lost, he's chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer of the U.S. government. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| Am I correct? | ||
| You are. | ||
| Presidents Washingtons, President Adams, President Jefferson, President Madison, President Roosevelt I and President Roosevelt II, President Lincoln famously, all initiated, stopped, and directly managed federal prosecutions. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Rewind on that. | ||
| They did what? | ||
| Initiated or stopped. | ||
| And directed federal prosecutions. | ||
| In fact, reviewing the material on this over the weekend, Chief Justice Marshall yelled at the Jefferson administration for not moving quickly enough on the Aaron Burr prosecution. | ||
| And he specifically was targeting Jefferson because Jefferson was running the prosecution. | ||
| I mean, to the point of... | ||
| Being involved, best I understand it, in depositions. | ||
| A treason trial, by the way. | ||
| Depositions and such. | ||
| So, you know, so practically speaking. | ||
| For treason, it was not a small case. | ||
| And the president was referred to as the chief executive magistrate. | ||
| So there's no doubt under the Constitution, you know, the powers of the president require the laws be faithfully executed. | ||
| And how is that done? | ||
| Constitution and custom and tradition. | ||
| Well, yes, on top of that. | ||
| Well, the custom and tradition flows from the obvious nature of his job as chief executive. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And so what does that mean in the modern era? | ||
| Well, in theory, it means President Trump could run the trial in any prosecution. | ||
| He'd be in there playing prosecutor if he so chose. | ||
| Chris Hayes, I hope your producer's perfect. | ||
| Ari Melver, give me that again, sir. | ||
| Give me that again for the Ari Melver show. | ||
| The president could conduct the prosecution, quite literally conduct the prosecution. | ||
| Now, there may be some rules related to court rules about lawyers being involved and such, but the point is he can run the prosecution, request an investigation, demand a report back. | ||
| And this is what I think he should do. | ||
| And we talked about this before. | ||
| He should set up a special prosecutor, separate in part from the FBI and the Justice Department. | ||
| Use the Justice Department. | ||
| The reason is, but they're so overwhelmed with what they've got. | ||
| Well, they're overwhelmed and conflicted. | ||
| Institutionally, they're conflicted. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The FBI guys aren't going to take out the FBI. | ||
| There aren't enough DOJ, good people in DOJ to do an investigation. | ||
| No, we don't control those buildings right now. | ||
| Because you can't. | ||
| It's going to take a while. | ||
| So the president can set this up. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| He appoints a special prosecutor, and that special prosecutor does not report to the attorney general, reports to him? | ||
| That's right. | ||
| An independent unit. | ||
| An independent prosecutorial unit, investigative unit, he can... | ||
| Have it staffed with individuals from other law enforcement agencies in the federal government or contract with private experts and private entities to do investigations and any criminal investigation or ultimately prosecution. | ||
| And he can sign off. | ||
| He can be as detail-oriented as he wants in terms of signing off on depositions, subpoenas. | ||
| What leads, what is pursued, what isn't. | ||
| Oh, he can be quite involved. | ||
| And he can, in the end, bless the prosecution one way or the other. | ||
| Now, he may want to take the Attorney General's advice as to the validity, the strength, the weakness of a prosecution. | ||
| But in the end, he makes the decision. | ||
| And even short of that, he can go over – he can call Pam Bomdi over here today to his Oval Office and say, tell me what's going on. | ||
| What prosecution is you considering? | ||
| Have you looked at this? | ||
| Why aren't you looking at this? | ||
| I want you to look at this, and I want you to get back to me. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| Ever since Watergate, that's been verboten, right? | ||
| That was the whole purpose of Watergate, is to hive off the Justice Department so it would not have any association with the executive branch, and particularly the office of the president. | ||
| Well, no one's suggesting a corrupt abuse of office here. | ||
| We're suggesting the vigorous exercise of his constitutional... | ||
| Responsibilities, duties, and powers to ensure that the rule of law is vindicated. | ||
| And does it mean targeting someone specifically just because you don't like them? | ||
| You still have the rule of law. | ||
| You still have judges. | ||
| You still have the constitutional protections. | ||
| All the evidentiary. | ||
| Due process. | ||
| And defendants get all the rights and witnesses or targets. | ||
| No one's suggesting all that be thrown out. | ||
| What I'm suggesting is that the Justice Department and the FBI are hopelessly conflicted. | ||
| Really, I don't even trust they're competent enough to get it done despite the new leadership. | ||
| It's no smear on the leadership. | ||
| We just know they're crackpots. | ||
| Institutionally, these things are still riven with deep staters. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| In terms of the appearance of justice... | ||
| Whether or not they are otherwise, you know, oh, they may have a whole bunch of perfect staff. | ||
| But the American people have lost confidence in both agencies. | ||
| And, you know, I was talking to Marjorie Taylor Greene on the way out. | ||
| You know, she made the point her constituents are upset about this. | ||
| And, you know, our friends in the administration want to blame me or Marjorie or others for highlighting these issues and getting people riled up. | ||
| I was like, are you kidding me? | ||
| People instinctively know what's going on. | ||
| They don't need Tom Fitton or MTG or Steve Bannon to tell him what to think. | ||
| Donald Trump doesn't need any of us to tell him what to think. | ||
| So this is a grassroots concern about the lack of justice and accountability. | ||
| And frankly, our friends in the DOJ and FBI are giving us the equivalent of Q drops every week. | ||
| Oh, don't trust us. | ||
| There's a plan. | ||
| We're going to roll them all up. | ||
| There's a plan. | ||
| There's no plan. | ||
| There may be a prosecution or two. | ||
| There have been significant firings which are necessary but woefully insufficient. | ||
| And the president should tell Cash, treat FBI like USAID. | ||
| Shatter and scatter. | ||
| You believe, because it's May of 2025. | ||
| We're burning daylight. | ||
| I tell people, if the deep state is not shattered on Trump's watch, I mean, I was talking about online the other day. | ||
| You went to jail for contempt of Congress. | ||
| Pete Navarro went to jail for contempt of Congress. | ||
| Garland wasn't prosecuted by the Justice Department. | ||
| Why? | ||
| You know, he hid the audio of the Biden interview because they covered up his mental incapacities by keeping that audio quiet. | ||
| He refused and went into contempt of Congress rather than turn it over. | ||
| I mean, it's right there. | ||
| There's a package right there from the prior administration that can reevaluate and review and decide whether to prosecute or not. | ||
| And as I was saying at the beginning of the show, it's now time, I would suggest respectfully to the president, that if he wants this done... | ||
| He should just do it. | ||
| Order it. | ||
| Get it done. | ||
| Because even if the two departments could do it, which clearly they're overwhelmed, the media and the Democrats are going to make the same firestorm. | ||
| So just go ahead and set it up yourself. | ||
| It's within the Constitution. | ||
| It's within your constitutional rights. | ||
| Let's get on with it. | ||
| No, and there are all sufficient checks in place. | ||
| It's not like he's going – we're not going to have judges pretending to be the president. | ||
| We're not going to have the equivalent of that, which we have now. | ||
| We have now. | ||
| That's the tyranny the founders were worried about. | ||
| Here the president is acting as magistrate and prosecutor. | ||
| And when you look at president... | ||
| And people should go and look this up. | ||
| Look at President Washington's handling of the Whiskey Rebellion. | ||
| I mean, Mike, you wouldn't want to be – you didn't want to be on the wrong end of George Washington on that. | ||
| First of all, people don't know that Hamilton – Washington actually came back and they formed a standing army, made Hamilton a major general, and Washington was going to come back and do the – going to be commander-in-chief again. | ||
| He talked about the vigorous prosecution. | ||
| Adams did. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And Jefferson, as I said, ran the – The Aliens, Eminemies Act that we're using came from that time, the 1798. | ||
| President Jackson Roosevelt used Teddy. | ||
| Conducted antitrust prosecutions or ran them. | ||
| President Reagan shut down a prosecution over national security concerns. | ||
| So this is, you know, and I remember talking to a senior person in the prior White House, the Trump White House, someone who's not seen as a friend of the president anymore, but a very former senior official. | ||
| And he said to me, Tom, after all this is done, we need to bring the Justice Department back into our government. | ||
| And what an insight that was. | ||
| And it's true, and it's still true. | ||
| And let's stop giving the left control of the Justice Department. | ||
| And my working narrative is, our working narrative should be, we need to assert political control of the administrative state. | ||
| Or as the left likes to say, political control of the administration state, or as the left likes to call it, democracy. | ||
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| What is your top—you've sued now the administration—I mean, I can't believe I'm saying this. | ||
| Fenton, who's worked for years on this thing, and was—we called the People's Justice Department during Obama. | ||
| That if it hadn't been for you, I don't know where this country would have been. | ||
| You were the one group that was in Obama's Freedom of Information request, suing Holder, the whole thing, forcing Holder, almost into a contempt charge over the gun-running situation. | ||
| It was all you. | ||
| How many times have you actually sued— The current Trump administration. | ||
| Oh, it's got to be 10 or 12 times. | ||
| How could that possibly... | ||
| I mean, this is what's mind-boggling. | ||
| When Tom Fenton's suing you, what are we doing? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Well, in defense of the Trump administration, you know, fish swim, judicial watch. | ||
| So we don't get a response to our FOIA. | ||
| We don't wait around for some... | ||
| Politicos to say, hey, you know, here are the documents. | ||
| But shouldn't they be instantaneously saying, hey, the people want this information released? | ||
| Because President Trump has said, hey, I want all, you know, declassify the stuff, get all the stuff out here. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, FOIA is a great way to get information out. | ||
| And I think they should focus on that. | ||
| And I would see the lawsuits and FOIAs as opportunities for disclosure rather than legal headaches. | ||
| What is your punch list for the special prosecutor? | ||
| Since they gave pardons to Fauci, they gave pardons to the... | ||
| Those pardons aren't valid. | ||
| Special prosecutors should proceed as if those pardons aren't valid. | ||
| We're making some news here. | ||
| You're saying the pardons are a total joke? | ||
| They're null and void. | ||
| Remember they taught us about the empty set when we were learning that? | ||
| The null set. | ||
| Pardons are the empty set. | ||
| There are no crimes in them. | ||
| How is it you even manage that? | ||
| And now, of course, there's questions about how they were even granted, which is another matter. | ||
| But you can't have a pardon for nothing. | ||
| And, you know, under that theory... | ||
| So the blanket preemptive pardons and Tom Fitton, the special prosecutor, step one, they're gone. | ||
| We're going after the J6. | ||
| We're going to get them... | ||
| You proceed as if they're not there. | ||
| That doesn't mean you target someone who otherwise wouldn't have been... | ||
| No, but you investigate the crimes associated with these individuals, bring them in, question them, and in theory, frankly, you can, even if they are valid, you can prosecute them and convict them, and the pardon kicks in at sentencing. | ||
| In other words, you go all the way through the trial, show that they're guilty, and then it's sentencing. | ||
| If this pardon's still valid, you debate it at that time. | ||
| Now, Steve, admittedly, this is going to be a tough sell to a lot of the Trump administration. | ||
| But this is the approach. | ||
| It won't be a tough sell to Trump. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is pure Trump. | ||
| Maybe some folks, you know, that's in and out of the room, but not to him. | ||
| But this is a sort of a kind of aggressive thinking, I think, is appropriate. | ||
| We're in an emergency situation. | ||
| These agencies and the people that we're talking about here tried to destroy the republic, tried to kill and jail Trump. | ||
| He's called, I think, seven national emergencies. | ||
| You're saying the emergency against the deep state is every bit as a danger to the national security of this republic. | ||
| And it's an emergency. | ||
| And you have to do this. | ||
| Yeah, we almost lost our country, not because of the border invasion, but because of what they were doing to Trump. | ||
| And that's what separates us from Russia and China. | ||
| You know, it doesn't separate us from France because France doesn't allow that type of abuse. | ||
| Hang on for one second. | ||
| Tom Fitt is in the house. | ||
| Mike Lowell. | ||
| We're going to talk about the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, the great Ed Martin, next in the war. | ||
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| Fenton, huge news over the weekend. | ||
| And folks, this is why Tom Fenton is a national treasure. | ||
| You stepped into the breach when nobody else would. | ||
| To make sure we get justice, at least on the civil side, for Ashley Babbitt. | ||
| Huge announcement over the weekend. | ||
| We don't know the details. | ||
| What can you tell us? | ||
| You guys sued them for $30 million, the Justice Department? | ||
| Yeah, we sued the federal government for $30 million. | ||
| Wrongful death. | ||
| We're representing her family, her husband, Aaron, her estate. | ||
| And, you know, long story short, we had this unusual court hearing on Friday in which we... | ||
| The government and judicial watch on behalf of Ashley's family had to disclose that the settlement has been agreed to in principle. | ||
| So the next step is there'll be essentially it has to be finalized and something needs to be signed. | ||
| And so the details as to the amount and other details. | ||
| Yeah, that will come out. | ||
| But we've agreed to it in principle and it's a great victory for the family. | ||
| Great victory against the fake January 6th narrative. | ||
| It blows out of the water, the big lie on January 6th. | ||
| Ashley was the only official homicide victim that day, and they tried their best to cover it up, and we blew it out of the water in terms of exposing the protection of Byrd. | ||
| He was put up in a hotel on Andrews Air Force Base. | ||
| They literally had the Defense Department helping protect this officer. | ||
| He had a record that makes me think he should have been nowhere near the Capitol, let alone not even allowed to have a gun. | ||
| And he popped out and shot this guy. | ||
| And the people around Ashley yelled, you murdered her. | ||
| You murdered her. | ||
| Cold blood. | ||
| You guys stepped up. | ||
| Tremendous victory. | ||
| You're also going after the IRS in defense of J6ers? | ||
| Yeah, I mean we haven't released this yet, but the IRS was targeting – I don't remember the name of a group, a group that was providing support for the January 6th defendants and targets. | ||
| So what does the IRS do? | ||
| They do what left-wing run IRS's always do. | ||
| They target the political opposition. | ||
| We got the proverbial hand to the face. | ||
| Trump appointees or the IRS bureaucrats running the agency think better of it now that we've sued and start releasing information about what looks to be political targeting. | ||
| I've never mentioned this. | ||
| But everything else, I also got an audit during those days. | ||
| Never said it before, but you can bring it out of me. | ||
| It was so corrupt. | ||
| This is why Scott Besson and the new crew over there is fantastic. | ||
| These people are corrupt up to their... | ||
| They tried to break these people. | ||
| Everything that possibly could happen to patriots, they tried to do. | ||
| They're the worst in the world. | ||
| One gentleman that's going to set that right... | ||
| Tom, as you and I've talked about, it's Ed Martin, who's up to be the U.S. Attorney. | ||
| And you know how bad Graves was here in the district. | ||
| Mike Howe now joins us from over at Heritage. | ||
| Mike, walk me through. | ||
| I don't understand why this is even a controversy. | ||
| Mike, what is going on here with Ed Martin as being the new U.S. Attorney for the district? | ||
| So Ed Martin was appointed by President Trump at the start of the administration to be the U.S. attorney. | ||
| He gets to be in that job for 120 days, which ends on May 20th. | ||
| He has done a bang-up job on the central plank of Trump's mandate to clean up Washington, D.C. and restore law and order. | ||
| He has gone after people carrying illegal guns. | ||
| He's gone after people going after the cops. | ||
| He's gone after a whole bunch of folks that his previous, or his predecessor... | ||
| Matthew Graves used that office solely to focus on January 6th, 1,600 cases. | ||
| So Ed's turned it into a law enforcement operation overnight. | ||
| Now here's the issue. | ||
| If the Senate Judiciary Committee does not notice his hearing today for a Thursday hearing, then there is not enough time for him to get confirmed by the Senate by May 20th. | ||
| So the Senate has a choice. | ||
| Either they can reject President Trump's law and order mandate man by letting him time out, which then could lead to a federal... | ||
| We hope that does not happen. | ||
| I do not think the Senate will take out President Trump's favorite U.S. attorney who's doing a bang-up job, but we'll know the answer to that question tonight. | ||
| The Senate Judiciary, which has Cornyn on it, Tillis on it, some other folks like that on it, they have to agree with Grassley just to set a hearing. | ||
| This is not voting in favor right now of Ed Martin. | ||
| Just to notice that a hearing is going to take place because it's not a public hearing. | ||
| I guess the paperwork can go back and forth because on 20th of May, he times out from his interim or temporary appointment. | ||
| Is this the problem we got? | ||
| That's absolutely right. | ||
| The decision on whether to notice the hearing for Thursday is Grassley's alone, but he has to do that three days before Thursday, which is tonight. | ||
| So the question is whether he'll do that over some objections that other Senate Republicans on the Judiciary Committee may have. | ||
| It's important to note that none of them have said publicly they would not vote for Ed Martin. | ||
| And so our hope is that... | ||
| Senator Grassley, the chairman, moves forward, puts this on the books for Thursday, and does not allow a situation where others in the caucus can agree with Schumer, Durbin, and Schiff and all of their lies, slanders, and slurs to let Ed time out in the dark of night. | ||
| USA Martin deserves a vote. | ||
| He is Trump's favorite U.S. attorney. | ||
| He is doing a bang-up job. | ||
| Let's keep him in it. | ||
| Crime is, correct me if I'm wrong, crime is down 25% in the district since Ed Martin took over. | ||
| And I can tell you, because the war room is on Capitol Hill right near the Supreme Court, you can feel it in the neighborhood, that things are much quieter and you feel better just having Ed Martin as U.S. Attorney. | ||
| Is that correct, Mike Howe? | ||
| Oh, it's absolutely correct. | ||
| And it's projected to get even better. | ||
| What he's doing to go after, you know, the juvenile crime, the gun crime, the carjacking, not to mention the Hamas rioters that he's already locked up the graffiti once. | ||
| And we're gearing up for a very hot summer. | ||
| You see what's happening with political violence picking up. | ||
| If we don't have a lawman confirmed in this job in the nation's capital for the summer, we're in big trouble. | ||
| And not to mention the 250th anniversary of the United States of America is coming up pretty soon. | ||
| All eyes will be on Washington, D.C. Trump wants his city cleaned up. | ||
| He wants Ed Martin to do it. | ||
| And he is doing it. | ||
| So hopefully the Senate does not, for an unprecedented manner, take out Trump's U.S. attorney. | ||
| They gave Matthew Graves a voice vote. | ||
| No Republican objections. | ||
| They gave Eric Holder, when he had the job, a voice vote. | ||
| Not to mention Republican senators voted for Merrick Garland, Mayorkas, and other just terrible nominees. | ||
| This is unprecedented if they are not to advance Ed Martin. | ||
| 202-225-3121. | ||
| Senator Tillis needs a special attention. | ||
| He did a good job promoting Kash Patel. | ||
| There are concerns he's not as excited about Ed Martin. | ||
| But let's go. | ||
| The left isn't opposing Ed Martin because he wants less crime in D.C. In fact, they kind of want less crime in D.C. too, because they live here. | ||
| But the rest of you, they don't care about. | ||
| The left opposes Ed Martin because they're afraid he will pursue the lawfare that was abused to target Trump. | ||
| Chuck Schumer has been personally going after Ed Martin with senators, I've heard. | ||
| Remember, Ed Martin asked Schumer tough questions about his threats to Supreme Court justices. | ||
| Adam Schiff has personally got involved in targeting... | ||
| Ed Martin as well. | ||
| That tells you everything you need to know about why they fear Ed Martin. | ||
| Some of the worst of the worst in the Senate. | ||
| I mean, Adam Schiff is the worst member of Congress currently serving in terms of ethics and maliciousness. | ||
| Oh, terrible. | ||
| Mike Howe, your recommendation. | ||
| We've got the Article III project under Mike Davis. | ||
| We've got the Bill Blaster under Grace. | ||
| We've got everybody ready to talk to Senate Judiciary today. | ||
| What is your recommendation, sir? | ||
| Let your senators on the Judiciary Committee particularly know that Ed Martin is the right man to make D.C. safe and deliver Trump's mandate. | ||
| And if we don't advance this by tonight, we effectively turn over the Senate to Schumer, Schiff, and Durbin's hands at a time where reconciliation and everything else is on the table. | ||
| It is not the time to divide. | ||
| It is the time to unite and advance U.S. Attorney Martin and make D.C. safe and beautiful again. | ||
| Hal, where do people get you? | ||
| What's your social media? | ||
| Where do they go? | ||
| @itsyourgov is the Oversight Project's handle, and that's because it is your government, and that's why we fight for you so hard. | ||
| And I'm@mhowltweets. | ||
| We'll be giving out updates and encouraging everyone to stand up and stand behind USA Martin and to push President Trump's mandate man in Washington, D.C. Thank you, brother. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| The plan is amazing. | ||
| Where do people go to find out more about it? | ||
| And we're now officially pushing this, right? | ||
| Oh, I've been talking about it. | ||
| I mean, I talked about it with you a few weeks ago. | ||
| I'm not like a secret guy. | ||
| It's like this is what needs to be done. | ||
| Special prosecutor needs to be announced by President Trump reports directly to the president at the White House. | ||
| Maybe he can appoint himself special prosecutor. | ||
| I say half-jokingly. | ||
| You would actually... | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| Can you hang through the break? | ||
| Holman's doing a gaggle. | ||
| We're going to figure this all out. | ||
| Is he? | ||
| Let's go to Tom Holman at the sticks. | ||
| Or have a U.S. citizen child. | ||
| If you have one, petition for you in the future. | ||
| Leave yourself open to the opportunity of legal entry. | ||
| Do things the right way. | ||
| There's millions of people standing in line right now doing things the right way. | ||
| Taking the test, doing the background investigations, paying their fees, they're sitting in the back seat. | ||
| While millions of people are allowed into this country under the Biden administration that simply don't qualify for asylum, most of them will lose that asylum claim. | ||
| So while they're clogging up the whole system, in addition to those who want to come in legally, while the millions of fraudulent asylum claims under the Biden administration, there are people in this world who really are escaping fear and persecution from their homeland. | ||
| But they're sitting in the back seat, too, because millions of people cheated the system, come across the border, released in the United States that caused a significant backlog in immigration court. | ||
| And that wasn't by accident. | ||
| It's by design. | ||
| Let's just overwhelm the system. | ||
| So it takes five, seven, nine years to go through the whole process if they take advantage of the appeals process. | ||
| They know exactly what they're doing. | ||
| That's why they weren't in ICE detention. | ||
| In ICE detention, they get a hearing in 35 days. | ||
| But if at least millions of the country overwhelm the system so they don't get a hearing in five, seven, nine years, then maybe there's a Democrat administration in power. | ||
| Now we can have an amnesty. | ||
| They know exactly what they're doing. | ||
| They're playing the long game. | ||
| But we're going to beat them out. | ||
| We're going to ramp up interior enforcement operations and removals. | ||
| We're going to force the law. | ||
| We're not going to ignore the law like the power administration did. | ||
| The president says he doesn't know what his responsibilities are under Article 5. I think the president is one of the, if not the most knowledgeable president that we've ever had. | ||
| Look, people can beat on President Trump all you want. | ||
| President Trump's a game changer. | ||
| I've worked for six presidents, starting with Ronald Reagan. | ||
| I'm a border guy. | ||
| Even President Clinton Obama took steps to secure the border because they understood you can't have national security if you don't have border security. | ||
| No one did more than President Trump during his first administration. | ||
| We had the Biden administration the most secure border in my lifetime, and he purposely unsecured it. | ||
| First president in history of the nation to do that. | ||
| Look at what President Trump achieved in eight weeks. | ||
| He did in eight weeks what Joe Biden couldn't and wouldn't do in four years. | ||
| We have the most secure border in the history of this nation right now because of President Trump. | ||
| Greatest president of my lifetime. | ||
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You can quote me on that. | |
| That's Homan right there. | ||
| What did Homan just say? | ||
| Remember, the Langford bill was $2 million a year until anything kicked in. | ||
| Trump shut it all down in 60 days. | ||
| Tom Hone, now they're talking about a new incentive program to get deported. | ||
| They've got to get out like 5,000 people a day just to reverse the invasion. | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
| The $10 million, this is why they're trying to make it so difficult now. | ||
| Thank you for coming by. | ||
| This is one of the busiest guys in D.C. I just want to reiterate. | ||
| Fintan recommendation to the president of the United States, to our chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer, which be the guy that occupies the Oval Office. | ||
| You're recommending an appointment of a special prosecutor, special counsel. | ||
| You're saying, if you go back and look at the Constitution and by custom and tradition, that you believe that President Trump should keep open the possibility of appointing himself. | ||
| Maybe with a Matt Gaetz as a deputy? | ||
| Is that what I'm hearing? | ||
| Or Jeff Clark or Rudy. | ||
| He could bring Rudy back in as a deputy. | ||
| He's as sharp as a tack and has more experience. | ||
| I love this so much. | ||
| I want to make sure. | ||
| You and I, because we go back a long way. | ||
| We're not trolling here. | ||
| This is serious. | ||
| Because when he said Trump is a special prosecutor, Gaetz, Clark, Rudy, they're literally going to explode. | ||
| They're going to lose. | ||
| The point is, I'm highlighting... | ||
| You know, there's there's kind of like, oh, that would be the perfect response. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But their response is short of that. | ||
| And I'm highlighting for the for your listeners and the American people, educating them on the powers of the presidency and Attorney General Bondi. | ||
| He can get support from the president to get this done. | ||
| He can, short of this, just direct the attorney general to engage in the criminal investigations and any resulting prosecutions and manage it as closely as he wants. | ||
| This fake constitutional construct that the left has stuffed down our throats to justify their attacks on Nixon is not only a lie, but it's a dangerous lie. | ||
| Because it gives that awesome power of prosecution to unelected bureaucrats or people who aren't subjected to the checks the founders intended to have in place, meaning the president running the show. | ||
| Very powerful. | ||
| Tom Fenton, once again, a big focus of that should be on the administrative and the deep state, to focus this because we've got a one-time shot. | ||
| That is one of the, you believe, the most significant threat to this republic. | ||
| Well, we had a collusion. | ||
| An abuse of power to undo a presidential election, an attempt to undo a presidential election or rig it in 2024. | ||
| And part of that was not only the actual rigging by putting the candidate in jail and constraining him during the campaign, but also to curtail any questions or election integrity activity by the opposition, by suggesting anyone who does that will go to jail. | ||
| And that's why they criminalized the First Amendment and executive power-related, under the Constitution, as far as the President was concerned, activities questioning the 2020 election. | ||
| It was about making sure those people wouldn't show up on 2024, at 2024, and raise questions. | ||
| And it didn't work. | ||
| It didn't work because groups like Judicial Watch, we weren't cowed. | ||
| Trump wasn't cowed. | ||
| The American people rejected it outright and they tried but they failed and it doesn't mean they won't try again and they will try again unless there are consequences. | ||
| And certainly not doing an investigation is not what the American people expected. | ||
| Out of this Justice Department and FBI. | ||
| Now, they say maybe there's something going on secretly we don't know about. | ||
| And that just sounds very cute-like to me. | ||
| And I don't buy it. | ||
| It's also too, I mean, because those buildings haven't changed, it'll take you a while to change them. | ||
| You've got to get on with this. | ||
| Your point is exactly. | ||
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| And Cash, they've got so much going on. | ||
| And those buildings aren't with them, so the best would just be some marginal thing. | ||
| This is where he said it's the reason for being the special prosecutor is solely to do this and to report to the president directly. | ||
| It lifts the burden from the FBI and Justice Department so Cash can spend his time decimating the FBI, shuttering it so that the only people left are him and a skeleton crew. | ||
| You and I are totally agree with this. | ||
| The FBI is going to be broken apart, right? | ||
| There's nothing the FBI does that can't be done by another federal agency. | ||
| Better. | ||
| And with more focus. | ||
| Tom Fitton, where do you go for social media? | ||
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Amazing. | |
| Well, we're at JudicialWatch.org and I'm all over social media. | ||
| Where do they get all your social media? | ||
| Is it your account or social media? | ||
| It's both. | ||
| It's at JudicialWatch on X, at Tom Fitton, similarly on Rumble, YouTube, Facebook. | ||
| You know, we're everywhere. | ||
| And this is what drives the left crazy. | ||
| It's because we know what we're talking about. | ||
| We've got some of the best lawyers in the country working on our cases, whether it be on election integrity. | ||
| I mean, the work we did on the Ashley Babbitt case is unbelievable. | ||
| You know, I was thinking about all these crazy law firms out there that Trump, you know, highlighted their anti-American approaches. | ||
| We've been doing this work for 30 years. | ||
| Not once have we received pro bono legal help from any of these giant law firms. | ||
| Not once. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| And the left gets it all the time. | ||
| Yeah, but we do it anyway. | ||
| Fitton, amazing. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And for Ashley Babbitt and that incredible victory after victory. | ||
| The great Tom Fitton. | ||
| Do I have Jillian up? | ||
| Do I have Poso? | ||
| Okay, Jack's getting ready. | ||
| We're going to get to Jack Posobiec in a second. | ||
| The great Tom Fitton was here, joined us this morning. | ||
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| What a day today. | ||
| Tonight we're going to have an entire hour going to break down the U.S. dollar. | ||
| Hopefully Celia will be here and spend a minute or two in this show to tee it up because this is the road to Rio, the Rio reset. | ||
| This is the BRICS, the alternative. | ||
| They're looking to the U.S. dollar. | ||
| Remember, we are who we are because the dollar is the prime reserve currency. | ||
| Now, I have always said you need a national debate. | ||
| You need a national debate about whether we want to be the prime reserve currency or not. | ||
| And that's something we are going to have over the next couple of years because it comes with a tremendous amount of burdens, but it also has benefits. | ||
| One of the benefits is you can finance kind of what you're doing. | ||
| If you go over to Citizens Free Press, the great Kane, who joined us on Saturday for a blockbuster hour, broke it all down. | ||
| He got into this business, in the news business, because of his obsession. | ||
| We're not going to have just free reign to do what we want anymore. | ||
| Why do I say that? | ||
| Well, the Central Bank of Japan put a shot across our bow. | ||
| Over the weekend, what did they tell the Financial Times? | ||
| They said, hey, look, Scott Besson, we're negotiating a new trade deal. | ||
| And yes, you're right. | ||
| There's all types of non-trade barriers. | ||
| That's why you're not selling Fords and Chevys in Japan. | ||
| And we're going to work all that out. | ||
| And we're going to be part of your bloc. | ||
| And we're not going to be dependent upon the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| But they said, hey, this over trillion dollars that we actually have of government security has to be part of this negotiation. | ||
| Remember, the Chinese own basically a trillion. | ||
| The Japanese own a trillion. | ||
| When you look at the big, beautiful bill right now, the reconciliation part, at least that coming out of the House, it's $163 billion cut. | ||
| But hey, yo. | ||
| You've added that back with the additional defense spending, and I believe if you add the $170 billion for the deportations of 10 million illegals, I'm not so sure we get the cuts. | ||
| I'm not sure we get much cuts at all. | ||
| And at 1.8 to 2 percent, 2.5 percent growth, you're going to get, you know, bottom line is we can have a 2 to 2.5 trillion dollar deficit. | ||
| Two to two and a half trillion dollars of deficit. | ||
| So, you know, how are you going to finance this? | ||
| Scott Besson's got to sell, I don't know, 10 to 12 trillion dollars of government securities. | ||
| So with that, this is why we're talking about the revenue side of the equation. | ||
| Where is that going to come from? | ||
| Right now, if you add in the rescission, we don't need to hook anybody up. | ||
| If you look at the rescissions, Right now, if you look at the extension of the tax cut, particularly for folks that are populous tax cuts, and that would be no tax on Social Security, no tax on overtime, no tax on tips. | ||
| That's going to make it even bigger. | ||
| Really glad and honored. | ||
| We're doing a tee-up for 6 o 'clock tonight. | ||
| Salia Motion, you join us now. | ||
| The author of the book, I've been raving about this book, Paper Soldiers. | ||
| The weaponization of the dollar and how it changed the world order. | ||
| You're going to be our guest for an entire hour tonight as we talk about this road to the Rio reset, the road to the BRICS nations in Rio. | ||
| How did weaponization of the dollar actually change the world order? | ||
| I mean, why is this such a big deal? | ||
| Because this book, I tell people, and it has our favorite, Chris Leonard, at the top. | ||
| Who wrote Lords of Easy Money. | ||
| A true feat of revelatory journalism. | ||
| If you only read one book to understand American economic and political power in the world today, it should be this one. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
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The U.S. has been able to impose a lot of geopolitical and foreign policy strength around the world because of just how large the U.S. economy is and all of the pillars that underpin that economy. | |
| The pillars are the strength of the U.S. democracy. | ||
| We have rule of law. | ||
| We have independent agencies like the Federal Reserve. | ||
| We have courts that are respected. | ||
| We have free and fair elections. | ||
| This is not a autocracy. | ||
| This is not a dictatorship. | ||
| Businesses and foreign investors and foreign central banks know that there is a predictability and stability that comes with an investment in the U.S. dollar. | ||
| And that has given the U.S. enormous power because there's a faith in credibility that the U.S. will always be there to kind of save the day or will always pay its debt on time. | ||
| And this is from the genesis of the country. | ||
| The very first Treasury Secretary that the U.S. had was Alexander Hamilton. | ||
| Who is obsessed by getting national debt, credit. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| He wrote this great report called The Report on Public Credit for Congress. | ||
| And back then, yes, just like I look for leaks and advance information on what a Treasury Secretary is thinking, it happened back then, too. | ||
| A lot of people wanted to have access to this report in advance in the 1780s. | ||
| But he talked about how debt is a national blessing, our credit. | ||
| The faith in our credit is the price of our liberty. | ||
| Boy, and he and Jefferson fought it out over that. | ||
| I get you for about another two minutes. | ||
| You're going to be back with us for an hour tonight at 6 o 'clock. | ||
| Go through it. | ||
| But everything you talk about is correct. | ||
| But in kind of that entire time, particularly modern time, it's always been about having a strong dollar. | ||
| All of a sudden, they actually wanted the dollar to be super strong. | ||
| Has that changed? | ||
| Has the mentality on that changed about having actually a strong dollar means a strong country, a strong America, versus all this talk about a weak dollar? | ||
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Well, there's two definitions of the dollar that we shouldn't conflate. | |
| One is just the foreign exchange rate value. | ||
| We've always wanted that our dollar can purchase a lot of goods overseas because we have a consumer-driven economy. | ||
| We can export growth and drive growth for the world because we consume a lot. | ||
| So come sell to us. | ||
| We can buy a lot because our dollar... | ||
| The foreign exchange rate value is strong. | ||
| The second definition is just the global dominance. | ||
| The dollar is on 92% of one end of every transaction that takes place in the world. | ||
| So you cannot possibly transact in the world without touching the U.S. And something like 75% of all debt issued by foreign countries are dollar-denominated? | ||
| Everyone's, you know, insatiable appetite for American dollars. | ||
| And so this is what we're going to talk about because the BRICS nations are going to have in Rio... | ||
| This is about the dollar as the prime reserve currency, correct? | ||
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Right. | |
| That's kind of up in the air right now. | ||
| It hasn't been questioned since World War II. | ||
| It's quite difficult to get off the dollar as you just said, but there are voices out there. | ||
| They're saying, are the Americans running too many things by being the prime reserve currency, correct? | ||
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But when you're the superpower, there's always those voices out there wondering, is this the right thing for us? | |
| When you're the hegemon of finance, do you have to be the hegemon in manufacturing to do that? | ||
| Because when this was set up... | ||
| We were a manufacturing hegemon. | ||
| It was the end of the war. | ||
| We were the only country, only major power that was not devastated financially or economically, correct? | ||
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I don't know the answer to whether you have to have the strength in manufacturing, but you have to have the world's largest economy to have this kind of strength in being the world's reserve asset. | |
| Okay, you're going to be back at 6 o 'clock. | ||
| We're going to go through the entire hour. | ||
| We're going to go through the history of it, go back to the founding of the nation, all of it, and talk about the weaponization. | ||
| We're also going to talk about what's happening in Iran, other places where the dollar sanctions and other things are not just quite as easy as people think. | ||
| definitely have blowback on the American people. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to be back in the war room in just a moment. | ||
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We'll be right back. | |
| We'll be right back. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | ||
| Wow, what a day. | ||
| A lot of things. | ||
| Second hundred days with the President Trump's administration, the second term. | ||
| And I talked about it on Saturday. | ||
| I gave a talk over at Russ Vogt's former shop, Center for Renewing America. | ||
| It was a closing keynote. | ||
| And I talked about the converging crisis. | ||
| Crises. | ||
| One is this constitutional crisis we're definitely going to have. | ||
| And you've had Tom Fenton here this morning. | ||
| Tom Fenton says, hey, you ought to double or triple down because he's talking about an independent prosecutor. | ||
| But that's an entire issue now with the courts, and we're going to hammer this one out, but you can see that coming. | ||
| I think it's mid-June or mid-July. | ||
| In addition, you've got the situation with the different parts of the kinetic part of the Third World War. | ||
| You heard MTG, a lot of the base. | ||
| Just thinks we're off track on this. | ||
| Should be focused on the southern border and what's coming here with fentanyl and the Mexican cartels. | ||
| A lot of discontent with the Ukraine situation, and particularly as the details come out on the economic deal. | ||
| So that's another big aspect that's all converging as President Trump tries to balance all that. | ||
| And of course, President Xi has accepted and will be in attendance from May 7th to 10th in Moscow for the 80th commemoration of what they call Victory Day. | ||
| Because the Russians feel that they delivered the victory in the Second World War. | ||
| She's going to be there for two or three days. | ||
| I understand they've already leaked. | ||
| They're going to announce 35 different agreements working together. | ||
| And last but not least is the middle part, which we told the economics and the finance part to get the big, beautiful bill right, but also the spending. | ||
| I'm just not seeing all the spending cuts that have to be codified. | ||
| We've got the tax situation. | ||
| And then this discussion of the trade and the trade deals and the tariffs and all that, the Japanese... | ||
| The central bank put a shot across our bow that said, hey, oh, by the way, in any discussion we're going to have on trade, we've got to talk about the trillion dollars of U.S. government securities we own and what is our appetite for all that. | ||
| We're going to get into all that over the next couple of days. | ||
| And of course, a lot of focus right now on President Trump and getting back on this very dangerous second hundred days as we're commencing right now. | ||
| Mike Lindell joins us. | ||
| Mike, in Romania, we won. | ||
| We lost in Canada and Australia, but we really didn't have a candidate. | ||
| No one's ever been on the show. | ||
| We've never really talked about it because it's not particularly MAGA. | ||
| In Romania, Populous Nationalist won. | ||
| First thing he said came on the show day, say, hey, I need people in the United States to highlight voter integrity, to make sure I just won by 15 or 20 points over my rival. | ||
| We have a runoff in two weeks, so I have to make sure this thing can't be stolen. | ||
| Your thoughts on voter integrity? | ||
| And then to kick off a firebrand Monday, send me a set of sheets, sir. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| Well, there's nothing more important, as we all know, than our election. | ||
| Platforms, our election platforms, that's what I've been fighting for for four years now, everybody. | ||
| And big case coming up at the end of May here. | ||
| So you're going to hear all about it. | ||
| I'll be all over the news. | ||
| I'm going right to jury trial. | ||
| So hopefully we get some big wins and we end up getting where our president wants to get to. | ||
| Paper ballots hand counted. | ||
| And this is where we have to get to. | ||
| 132 countries have banned electronic voting. | ||
| And we have to secure our elections. | ||
| Everything comes from our elections. | ||
| And we're getting there. | ||
| We have great, great wins all over the place right now. | ||
| And you guys have been a part of it where I can get out there and be. | ||
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| And I want to thank the former posse getting through these last months of attacks. | ||
| I mean, since the election, it seems like they're even... | ||
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| Tom Fenton for stopping by. | ||
| Mike Howe. | ||
| Very important today, folks. | ||
| Go to Article 3 Project or Bill Blaster. | ||
| Get the folks on the Senate Judiciary Committee, particularly Senator Cornyn. | ||
| Senator Tillis, you know, Ted Cruz, let's get everybody and say, hey, you got to talk to Senator Grassley. | ||
| We have tremendous respect for Senator Grassley, but we have to schedule the hearing on Ed Martin as a U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia. | ||
| Outside the Southern District of New York, this is the most powerful, most important of all the U.S. attorneys. | ||
| We need that schedule, President Trump's interim pick. | ||
| Temporary pick. | ||
| He times out on 20 May. | ||
| As Mike Howell told you from Heritage this morning, that means we've got to schedule a hearing today so that we can have it on Thursday. | ||
| There may be some other tricks. | ||
| That's Senator Schiff and others still pull, but you've got to go for the process. | ||
| Let's go ahead and roll. | ||
| Make sure you talk to your senator today, particularly Senator Tillis in North Carolina, Senator Cornine in Texas. | ||
| We're going to leave you with The Right Stuff, a magnificent book by Tom Wolfe. | ||
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| Charlie Kirk is next. | ||
| Jack Basobiec after that. | ||
| Steve Gruber. | ||
| Eric Bolling. | ||
| I will do a handoff from Bolling, and we're back from 5 to 7 to 9, including a special hour on the weaponization of the U.S. dollar. | ||
| Paper Soldiers. | ||
| 6 o 'clock tonight. |
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