May 2, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | ||
| You're welcome. | ||
| Thursday, 1 May, Year of Our Lord 2025. | ||
| Thank you for sticking around for the second hour of our late afternoon, early evening show. | ||
| There's so much going on. | ||
| Another historic day. | ||
| President Trump, in the first day of the second hundred, just historic, changed out the National Security Council, gets new staffing up at the United Nations. | ||
| Throws down hard, really hard on the Persians about their oil, and I think sets a chain of events in motion that's going to have massive ramifications. | ||
| Also, in addition, a Trump appointee, because tonight on MSCBC, CNN, and tomorrow, you're going to have your nose rubbed to this. | ||
| A Trump appointee in the 5th District down in Texas, a Cornyn guy, just put out a 36-page opinion. | ||
| That a federal judge permanently banned President Trump from using the Aliens-Enemies Act of 1798 to basically get rid of, send back out of here the invaders, the criminal alien invaders, terrorist invaders. | ||
| That he's made the determination using that that they've invaded the country and they've got to go. | ||
| And now we've had not just the Supreme Court, not just Boesburg and a judge in... | ||
| In Washington, D.C., but now somebody kind of at the scene of the crime, ready to do that. | ||
| They were harping on, you've got to do it from South Texas, you've got to do it from the airbase. | ||
| Well, they've done it, and now they've done it at the White House. | ||
| We had the Viceroy Mike Davis here. | ||
| They're already turning and burning at the White House about what's going to happen here. | ||
| And I continue to say, to delay is to deny, and what they're doing now, they're going to extract from this audience so much pain. | ||
| In trying to get out this first wave of a couple hundred thousand of these criminals, they want you to give up. | ||
| What is our watchword? | ||
| If you keep fighting, you ultimately win. | ||
| It's he who surrenders first. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| We can't quote on this. | ||
| All 10 million have to go. | ||
| They have to go. | ||
| You can see right now how hard they're going to fight. | ||
| They're doing this as a delaying tactic. | ||
| They want to make this so painful for the White House. | ||
| They want to make it so painful. | ||
| For Homan and for Kristi Noem and the team over at DHS. | ||
| And I think right now my target of going to the Supreme Court on this thing and fully arguing it is sometime in mid-June, which is a little over 30 days away. | ||
| And that's the 10th anniversary of President Trump coming down the escalators 15 June. | ||
| So it's going to be, we're in for a fight now. | ||
| People just got to hunker down. | ||
| This is why you're the tip of the spear. | ||
| The work that's been accomplished just this week alone by this audience has been extraordinary. | ||
| Mike Davis added a bunch more on top of you. | ||
| Ed Martin, who's really the U.S. attorney of all these, and they've got some great U.S. attorneys. | ||
| They just fired one today up in Maine. | ||
| They've got some great U.S. attorneys, but Ed Martin's kind of, you know, he's got a huge, he's the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, and that is a massive job. | ||
| It was Matthew Graves that put all those, put the thousand J-6ers in prison. | ||
| There were other jurisdictions too, but they were the driving force of it. | ||
| 972 Patriot. | ||
| Make sure he supports Patriot Mobile. | ||
| You know they're on your site. | ||
| Now you see that in Texas, what's happening. | ||
| And Cornyn's in a fight with Paxton. | ||
| Got Tom Tillis. | ||
| Tom Tillis says he's not going to vote at committee for Ed Martin. | ||
| You got Cornyn's pick down there, this federal judge. | ||
| He just gave this blistering 36-page opinion. | ||
| Mike Davis said it was a lawless opinion, but hey, it's a federal judge. | ||
| We're in this judicial insurrection or coup d 'etat, and we're going to get on with it. | ||
| And I've said, I had Steve Inskeep here the other day, and Steve's book on Lincoln is absolutely extraordinary. | ||
| But we talked about it, and I said this is why D.C. Drano came on the show about, and I'm just telling you, just saying. | ||
| We are going down a path where the courts are going to force President Trump as Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States to do exactly what President Lincoln had to do, | ||
| and that was to suspend habeas corpus. | ||
| It's coming. | ||
| D.C. Drano, he went to the... | ||
| He tweeted it out. | ||
| Moe and Grace alerted me to it and some others in the engine room. | ||
| We had him on, what, a week ago. | ||
| He then got invited to the White House briefing. | ||
| He got to ask the question. | ||
| He did that. | ||
| Caroline had an incredible answer. | ||
| And the president yesterday at the cabinet meeting said, hey, three prominent presidents, Lincoln, Grant, and FDR have used it. | ||
| Don't know. | ||
| So constitutional crisis is coming. | ||
| We're in the constitutional crisis. | ||
| I mean, the culmination of that, at least this round, is coming, and it's coming quickly. | ||
| The entire situation with stopping the kinetic part of the Third World War, everywhere from Ukraine all the way through that arc of instability, through Israel, Gaza, Persia, the Arabian Peninsula, | ||
| Red Sea, North Arabian Sea, all of it. | ||
| You had to change that today. | ||
| Marco Rubio historically taking on the same mantle that has not been worn since Henry Kissinger. | ||
| In the Ford administration, not Nixon, Nixon would never allow Kissinger to be both. | ||
| President Ford did, both Secretary of State and National Security Advisor. | ||
| And this is all about the negotiations and particularly what's happening in Persia and a lot of people around President Trump, myself included, saying this option of military interaction that you really got to go. | ||
| You've got to go up the escalatory ladder on economic warfare. | ||
| And today, we've seen it. | ||
| President Trump came out on True Social and said, hey, look, how about this? | ||
| No oil comes out of Iran. | ||
| None. | ||
| Zero. | ||
| Not a barrel. | ||
| Not one barrel. | ||
| You've got to wake these people up. | ||
| You've got to give them a wake-up call. | ||
| And, of course, the financial, you know, the middle one is the financial, the economic, the engagement. | ||
| It's not trading tariffs. | ||
| It's reorganizing the world's commercial relationships. | ||
| As President Trump is doing, the geopolitics, the geoeconomics of it. | ||
| I think Scott Besson and John Thune are in sync. | ||
| They're saying a July before this thing can kind of come forward. | ||
| Speaker John's still saying May. | ||
| I think your August reset. | ||
| I'm going to take a guess now. | ||
| The first time you get a vote on this thing is after Labor Day. | ||
| Just knowing the complexity of it. | ||
| How complex is it, Steve? | ||
| Well, here's how complex of it. | ||
| What you guys did last week or earlier this week on turfing out and getting the one agency and saving the FTC, that was tucked in, I don't know, one of these 50,000-page bills. | ||
| One kind of paragraph. | ||
| There's going to be thousands of things like that. | ||
| Thousands of things like that. | ||
| Plus the math itself. | ||
| Now, I understand the math of what this is supposed to look like from a budget perspective. | ||
| I think I'm hearing that may come out tomorrow. | ||
| We'll be all over it. | ||
| I've asked Michael Pack to join us about VOA and about reprogramming that, taking it down, but also Michael is very familiar with his whole issues of National Security Advisor, director of some of the best documentary films we've ever had, including my favorite that I worked on with him as one of the executive producers. | ||
| I guess the executive producer? | ||
| The last 600 meters. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play the clip, and I'm bringing in D. Michael Pack. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| This was some of the most compartmented, complex urban terrain that I have ever seen. | ||
| The further south we advance, the more determined resistance. | ||
| Fanatical resistance. | ||
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You're just on pure adrenaline, waiting for that house. | |
| You know, every house is a potential death trap. | ||
| Despite all the technology that we had, it came down to men going to the sound of the guns in that cauldron where the metal meets the meat. | ||
| And those with the best training win. | ||
| Foreign policy, I don't make it. | ||
| I just delivered the last 600 meters. | ||
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I just delivered the last 100 meters. | |
| Well, Michael, we've got – that movie is one of the best films I've ever been associated with. | ||
| Incredibly powerful. | ||
| I think you have breaking news on this film, sir? | ||
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That's right. | |
| As you know, we finished it in 2008, Steve, a long time ago. | ||
| And now – and it was principally funded by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. | ||
| But they decided not to air it. | ||
| They felt it was too pro-military. | ||
| Even though it's really not, it's a very fair look at the battle. | ||
| I'm told from the point of view of the people who fought it, as if it were a battle like Gettysburg or Iwo Jima, you know, something that is in American history that we need to understand. | ||
| But now, 17 years later, I'm happy to announce that they're actually going to broadcast it, PBS will, in prime time, the day before Veterans Day this year, Monday, November 10th. | ||
| I hope all your listeners and viewers watch. | ||
| Well, we've got to do some sort of screening before they get everybody together. | ||
| It's an absolutely amazing film. | ||
| 17 years it took. | ||
| So, Pac, I want you to talk about how the administrative state works. | ||
| Michael is one of the very self-effacing and quite humble, but one of our great filmmakers. | ||
| You were actually selected by President Bush 43 to basically do what regarding... | ||
| In fact, this film came up when you said it was financed by Corporation Public Broadcasting. | ||
| It was kind of your goodbye kiss. | ||
| Talk about what's your job. | ||
| You were appointed by... | ||
| What was the big ask? | ||
| Go back to the early 2000s, right after 9-11. | ||
| You were asked by the president to do what? | ||
| And you went into public broadcasting. | ||
| What was your mandate? | ||
| What was your role? | ||
| And what was the response of the liberal media, sir? | ||
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Well, in public broadcasting, I was senior vice president of television programming, and our job was to try to bring in alternative voices, which we tried to do with American Crossroads and other things. | |
| And at that time, public broadcasting brought in the Wall Street Journal editorial report and the Tucker Carlson show. | ||
| It would be a different public broadcasting if those shows were still on the air. | ||
| It was too much for the people in public broadcasting. | ||
| They got rid of the chairman, Ken Tomlinson, and myself, and we were out. | ||
| And then, as you know, I was brought back... | ||
| Okay, but hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. | ||
| Don't get ahead of the wagon train here. | ||
| Michael knows I'm the Irish. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| I want to go back. | ||
| This was a... | ||
| The Republicans were running this city, right, Bush? | ||
| They came and said, hey, the established order in the city come and say, hey, PAC is, and look at Michael PAC. | ||
| He's not some fire-breathing radical. | ||
| They said, what you want PAC to do of have alternative voices, they got rid of the chairman and PAC. | ||
| And did anybody really defend you? | ||
| They kind of turfed you out. | ||
| When we controlled the deal, did we not, sir? | ||
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That's right. | |
| It's a real shame. | ||
| No, I was not. | ||
| It was my first time being attacked on the front pages of the New York Times when I was fired. | ||
| But yeah, no, there was no attempt to sort of fight back. | ||
| I mean, it was more sad to get rid of Ken Tomlinson, the chairman. | ||
| He was really ignominiously kicked out. | ||
| They found things that he did wrong. | ||
| He was also, at the time, the head of the... | ||
| Broadcasting Board of Governors, which oversees the Voice of America and is now what USAGM is. | ||
| And, you know, they found that he was using his emails to do private business, to deal with his, manage his horses. | ||
| And they said that using these private emails, public emails, government emails, cost the government money, and it was like stealing. | ||
| But, you know, how much does an email cost? | ||
| You know, so it was unbelievable. | ||
| And similarly at CPB, they forced him out. | ||
| He had not consulted people, and it was horrible. | ||
| And you are really right, Steve. | ||
| No one came to his defense. | ||
| You know, he did this thing, he thought, you know, for both public broadcasting and for conservative voices, and no one came to his defense. | ||
| I mean, it was really sad. | ||
| So Michael leaves and they give him basically money. | ||
| You can go shoot the phone book. | ||
| And Pac's idea is I'm going to do – high-tech wars turn to high-tech. | ||
| So Michael Pac's doing his research and then it dawns on him, actually, this is warfare gone back door to door. | ||
| It's actually not high-tech. | ||
| It's the exact opposite. | ||
| And he makes this magnificent film, Last 600 Meter. | ||
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Indeed. | |
| I get a chance to work with Pac. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Talk about the film. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| It was a complete reversal. | ||
| And it was a very different kind of warfare. | ||
| And it's the kind of warfare we're still dealing with now. | ||
| So I think it's important for people to see it. | ||
| I mean, it's what's going on in Gaza. | ||
| It's what's going on in Ukraine. | ||
| People have to understand what that kind of warfare is like, and they really don't. | ||
| So yeah, Steve, I have to say, Steve, my wife Gina was also an executive producer. | ||
| I will not tell her that you said you were the sole executive producer. | ||
| I don't want to get in trouble. | ||
| Hey, hey, hey, I don't mind crossing you. | ||
| I'll never cross Gina, right? | ||
| She's the decision maker. | ||
| No, okay, so I get to know PAC, I get to know him over years. | ||
| I got very drawn to the story when I said this renowned conservative... | ||
| TV producer, filmmaker, director gets turfed out when we control the city because I didn't really know anything about politics then. | ||
| But I start to learn the concept of controlled opposition. | ||
| I said this whole republic thing is kind of phony because they don't fight for anything. | ||
| This guy, PAC, is not sitting there saying I want to bring in right-wing, you know, Hitler Youth type of project. | ||
| It's just kind of moderate, you know, it's kind of middle-of-the-road stuff just because... | ||
| PBS and NPR are so left-wing, up in your grill every day. | ||
| So hang on, hang on. | ||
| So I get to know PAC, and he's an incredible guy, great filmmaker. | ||
| Gina's wife's amazing. | ||
| They're a fantastic team. | ||
| So after Trump wins, I go to PAC and say, hey, how about you come in and run the whole deal? | ||
| You're perfect. | ||
| You understand Trump. | ||
| You understand MAGA. | ||
| You understand where we want to go. | ||
| Michael PAC, from the time we... | ||
| Appoint you for confirmation. | ||
| Was it three and a half years or three years? | ||
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It was three years and three months. | |
| I think it's the record from the time that I was nominated to the time that I was allowed to serve. | ||
| I mean, it can't be longer than four years. | ||
| So I think I'm the record holder in that, Steve. | ||
| So very early on, I think in the first 90 days, we go, people love him, he meets, boom, they put him up. | ||
| This is, we control the Senate. | ||
| It's not Democrats. | ||
| This is Mitch McConnell. | ||
| This is controlled opposition. | ||
| They take, I sit there, Michael Pax, who's the nicest guy in the world, Gina, you have to have a hundred articles in the Washington Post every other day. | ||
| It literally was there. | ||
| To destroy you as a person. | ||
| You were a mini version of what they did to President Trump later. | ||
| To destroy your reputation, to smear you, to make it so... | ||
| And people around you, the good people, everybody was going to be destroyed. | ||
| These people are vicious and they're frickin' evil. | ||
| They will come after people and you see it right there. | ||
| And here's why Michael Pack is one of the people I admire most in the Imperial Capital. | ||
| He had every opportunity. | ||
| So many other people said, "I can't take it anymore. | ||
| I gotta go." | ||
| And Michael Pack said, "The hell with them. | ||
| I'm sticking this one out." | ||
| Three years and three months. | ||
| And you finally got in there, sir. | ||
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Yeah, I was in there for about eight months. | |
| And that's right. | ||
| And the smears just escalated. | ||
| You know, Senator Menendez was after me. | ||
| I mean, a lot of it, even before that, early on, was what I would call the administrative state, the Office of Government Ethics. | ||
| You know, career people were blocking me because career people, you know, share the views of Senator Menendez, really, essentially, and the left more generally, actually. | ||
| So, yeah, I was in there for eight months, and it was an attack from day one. | ||
| I mean, I had been in international broadcasting under the first President Bush, George H.W. Bush, and they tried to block what I did, but it was warfare. | ||
| In the first Trump administration, as you said, there were endless articles in the Washington Post and NPR especially, but also the New York Times and Politico saying, you know, I fired the five political appointees, heads of the network, which I was empowered to do by law, | ||
| and they called it a massacre. | ||
| Even now, five out of 4,000, right? | ||
| Five out of 4,000. | ||
| So everything I did, they tried to block. | ||
| You know, I give this example in this op-ed I recently wrote in the Wall Street Journal. | ||
| I mean, even obvious things. | ||
| So this was, by the time I got in there in June, you know, we're already into the presidential election. | ||
| And the Voice of America Urdu service ran what was essentially a Biden ad. | ||
| It was a Biden ad with very little context. | ||
| It was in English. | ||
| You could get it in America. | ||
| It seemed to be targeted at Michigan. | ||
| It was an appeal by Biden and his supporters for Muslims to vote for him. | ||
| With no context whatsoever, it violated the Voice of America charter, and I called that to their attention. | ||
| They couldn't deny that it violated the charter, and eventually they took it down. | ||
| But this wasn't the first time it happened. | ||
| You know, in the 2016 election, they had run an ad featuring Robert De Niro calling Trump a pig and a dog. | ||
| So this is the second time. | ||
| So I decided I would try to not just take it down, but figure out why it happened and try to make sure it didn't happen again. | ||
| And I started an investigation to look into why and who was responsible and what disciplinary actions should be taken. | ||
| And it was an investigation largely learned by career people at USAGM, U.S. Agency for Global Media. | ||
| And they all sued. | ||
| They claimed I was violating their First Amendment rights. | ||
| And a judge in the district, a federal judge in the district, agreed with them. | ||
| So what does it tell you? | ||
| It tells you that not only are these people totally biased, but they cannot be changed. | ||
| They fight it. | ||
| They resist it. | ||
| It's more than resistance. | ||
| So, you know, I feel I love the mission of the Voice of America and Radio for Europe, Radio Liberty and the others. | ||
| I believe it's important to promote American values abroad. | ||
| But these institutions can no longer do that. | ||
| They are so riddled with bias. | ||
| They are so anxious to fight any kind of reform that they simply – we have to reinvent international broadcasting. | ||
| We can't simply fix these institutions. | ||
| And so I sympathize with Carrie Lake. | ||
| Well, before I get there, I want to repeat this because you're a decent guy, but you've been through the wars on this thing now for 20-some years. | ||
| First with Bush. | ||
| And now with the Trump thing, and you see again, walk me through that again. | ||
| Walk me through exactly what you're saying, that they can't be reformed. | ||
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Well, I think that there are really three related problems. | |
| I mean, first of all, there are 4,000 people in this agency. | ||
| I kind of think a lot of the beat reporters, the people that are out there, especially those risking their lives in totalitarian regimes, are heroic and decent reporters. | ||
| 2,000, all the middle and senior managers, are hopelessly biased. | ||
| I mean, they don't, they aren't only voted for Democrats, they hate Donald Trump. | ||
| Hate him. | ||
| So, what can you do with this kind of bias? | ||
| You can't, there are too many people to fire. | ||
| And then, the deeper problem really is, they reflect the news media writ large. | ||
| Suppose you got rid of them, could you find 4,000 journalists that would... | ||
| That liked Donald Trump and would be comfortable with his agenda. | ||
| You could not. | ||
| And not only that, the other thing that these agencies are supposed to do is promote American values. | ||
| But we no longer agree with what American values are. | ||
| I mean, to a lot of people there, DEI is an American value. | ||
| What do they think? | ||
| They think of equity, not equality. | ||
| So without a common sense of values, how can they be promoted? | ||
| These problems run very deep and they're hard to fix. | ||
| But I think the upside is there are new ways to get our ideas and media out to places like China and Iran and North Korea. | ||
| There are other ways to reach them and we need to sort of find new ways to reach them and reconstitute a An international broadcasting service that deals with the new media, that can be controlled by the executive, whether it be our party or the Republican Party or the Democratic Party, | ||
| but is responsive to the president and to the foreign policy goals of the United States. | ||
| You're also seeing, Kerry, what they're doing, I think the Doge, they learned some lessons. | ||
| They're taking these down to the statutory minimum. | ||
| So when you hear that... | ||
| Because Brent Bozell eventually, I guess, will get confirmed. | ||
| When they take him down to the statutory minimums, these things will be shells of their former selves. | ||
| Do you then recommend to the president, once you've got it to the minimum, that between Bozell and Kerry and people like yourself and other of these MAGA media types, that you can actually rebuild this international broadcast to actually promote American values? | ||
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I think there's a way to rebuild it. | |
| That's right. | ||
| Actually, Brent Bezell, he's now going to be the ambassador to South Africa, so I don't know who will get into this agency. | ||
| But I think there's a way to rebuild it, but you can't just rebuild it. | ||
| In the sort of image of what it was before, I think it actually needs to be rethought. | ||
| I think there are other ways to do it. | ||
| For example, maybe we should be funding immigrant groups that are broadcasting to China, for example, instead of broadcasting to China ourselves. | ||
| I mean, there are other ways to do it, and that can be, you know, if there are problems arise, you can get out of it faster. | ||
| It's very hard to build a cadre of journalists that are going to want to do this kind of work out of the normal pool of journalism, journalists, especially in America. | ||
| But it's a challenge even in the language broadcast. | ||
| I think there's a way to do it. | ||
| I think it's an important thing to do. | ||
| My recommendation would be that they try to think about it in context of soft power generally and come up with a new plan and actually a new structure. | ||
| I think they should keep the brands Voice of America and Radio for Europe, but they need to think of a new structure, a completely different structure. | ||
| Michael, where do people go to get your content, social media, all of it, sir? | ||
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Well, they can go to palladiumpictures.com, which is our current company, and they can see our work. | |
| They can apply to our incubator, which trains young filmmakers. | ||
| And our previous work, including Less than Certain Meters, is on manifoldproductions.com. | ||
| I'm MichaelPack underscore on X. But I think I'd more encourage people to go to our website. | ||
| And, you know, we've done over 15 films for PBS, including another one with you on Admiral Rickover. | ||
| And I think they're all worth seeing and important to see. | ||
| One of my favorites. | ||
| Great work. | ||
| You're a great man, Michael Pack, and a tough man. | ||
| Honored to have you on here, brother. | ||
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Thank you, Steve. | |
| For three years and three months, Michael Pack sat there and took incoming every day. | ||
| The viciousness of this left is indescribable. | ||
| They are mean, vicious people, and they're not going to change. | ||
| No debating with them. | ||
| Nothing to debate. | ||
| It's either their way or our way. | ||
| Very simple. | ||
| You saw that judge down in Texas? | ||
| 36-page opinion up in the president's grill. | ||
| Just saying. | ||
| And you got Tom Tillis. | ||
| The lesson from that story is the controlled opposition. | ||
| The Republican Party refused to fight, refused to defend. | ||
| Refused. | ||
| Absolutely despicable. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We're in return with Tina Deskalitz in the War Room next. | ||
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I got American power. | |
| I got American faith. | ||
| In America's heart. | ||
| Go on, raise the flag. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | ||
| So, birchgold.com, we have that seventh free installment now, and very proud of the work here. | ||
| The Rio Reset, this is on the road to Rio. | ||
| No, this is not a Crosby and Hope movie. | ||
| This is an actual real life. | ||
| Where the BRICS nations, kind of led by the Chinese Communist Party, is trying to de-dollarize on a de-dollarization move around the world. | ||
| Do they have some arguments about what's happened? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I'm a big believer in the weaponization of the dollar. | ||
| Paper soldiers. | ||
| We're going to have Saleha Motion with us on Monday as part of our Road to Rio to talk about her book, which is the definitive topic about... | ||
| How the weaponization of the dollar changed the world order. | ||
| Christopher Leonard, a true feat of revelatory journalism. | ||
| If you had only one book to understand American economic and political power in the world today, this would be the one. | ||
| We're spending a whole hour breaking it down. | ||
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| Tina Deskovitz, Moms for Liberty, why are you in Colorado, ma 'am, and how have you been spending your time? | ||
| I am in Colorado because the Colorado Legislature has decided to pass a bill. | ||
| It's gone through the House. | ||
| Last night it passed the Senate Judiciary Committee. | ||
| It's headed to the floor. | ||
| They say the governor is set to sign it. | ||
| And it is one of the most egregious bills against parental rights that we've ever seen in the country. | ||
| I want to walk through the details, but I've got to ask a question. | ||
| Because I was out there to the Colorado GOP about a month ago. | ||
| I am shocked. | ||
| And for a state that is, I consider it a MAGA state, except for these pockets like Denver and around Denver and the suburbs and Boulder and the University of Colorado, this is MAGA country. | ||
| This thing is, I told people, this is so radical. | ||
| And Polis is running for president as the most radical of all. | ||
| This guy's doubling and tripling down. | ||
| Tell me about this bill. | ||
| The bill, it does a number of things that are shocking. | ||
| In its original form, they did strip it last night of a section of the bill that actually awarded custody to the parent that affirmed the gender. | ||
| And so the parent that didn't affirm the gender would lose custody. | ||
| And last night, the numbers are between 700 and 800 people signed up to speak against this bill last night. | ||
| The Senate GOP has said that, or the Senate Republicans have said that that's the most in the history of the Colorado Senate ever to sign up. | ||
| One of those that spoke last night was an 11-year-old child that the mother brought in to speak out against her father who will not affirm her gender. | ||
| And if you listen to some of the testimonies... | ||
| Hang on, hang on, hang on. | ||
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| They brought in an 11-year-old child to do what? | ||
| To speak out against her father, her mother brought her in, to speak out against her father because her father will not affirm her gender identity because she has changed her gender. | ||
| Her mom has affirmed this gender. | ||
| Remember, this bill will award custody to the parent that affirms her new gender. | ||
| And the father doesn't agree with the gender. | ||
| And so they're saying that the father is hateful and that he is hurting her and that it's basically, not basically, it actually would categorize. | ||
| Correct me if I'm wrong here. | ||
| This is what I don't understand. | ||
| When I hear somebody like Tiffany Justice or you tell me that a bill is the most radical anti-parental rights in the country, that hits me because you've seen it all. | ||
| And over the last four years, five years, you guys have worked it all. | ||
| What makes this bill specifically the worst you've ever seen? | ||
| I think that's the worst part of it, but there's so much more in it. | ||
| It categorizes deadnaming. | ||
| You know, I've had to explain that to a few people of what that is. | ||
| Deadnaming is if you are born a boy and you change your name to a girl or you change your gender identity to a girl and someone calls you your boy name, you have deadnamed them because to them their birth name is dead. | ||
| It makes deadnaming and misgendering illegal. | ||
| It categorizes it as a civil rights violation. | ||
| It takes this gender identity craze to a whole new level by bringing in teeth into the bill that That will harm families, divide families. | ||
| You saw last night it's dividing children from parents. | ||
| And it's the most extreme radicals that are out supporting it. | ||
| I think it was Senator Winters said last night during the hearings that this bill is like her crash couch, where she allows children that are running away from home to change their gender to crash on her couch. | ||
| I can't even believe these things are being said in a public forum, that people are cheering these things, that they're voting for them. | ||
| It passed on party lines last night. | ||
| It's headed to the floor. | ||
| It's expected to pass. | ||
| Governors expected to sign it. | ||
| And the problem is not just for Colorado. | ||
| When these things start happening around the country, other states pick up on them. | ||
| If Colorado can do it, other states can do it. | ||
| One of the other things this bill does, Steve, is it makes Colorado a sanctuary state. | ||
| It will not recognize rulings from courts in other states when it comes to custody hearings and which parent is affirming the gender. | ||
| Correct me if I'm wrong. | ||
| Wasn't this kind of a topic in the 2024 presidential election? | ||
| And didn't this come down to be like, I don't know, 80, 20, 90, 10, 95, 5? | ||
| This wasn't close. | ||
| This was kind of one of those issues that kind of come out of nowhere and people can't believe it. | ||
| But once it's put in the race, it's virtually everybody kind of says, yeah, we can't do that. | ||
| That happened. | ||
| What message did Colorado fail to get? | ||
| They did not get any of the message of the election. | ||
| I hear that they're going to try to sue as a state. | ||
| Representative Bradley told me today that they are X millions of dollars in debt. | ||
| I can't remember the exact numbers, but that they're going to take more millions of dollars and sue the Trump administration. | ||
| And so Colorado has lost its mind. | ||
| I spent the whole day down at the statehouse. | ||
| I was on the floor. | ||
| Representative Bradley brought me down there on the floor. | ||
| I was able to sit down there and just witness firsthand. | ||
| The shenanigans going on, the immaturity, the lack of professionalism as this House is being run by Democrats, it's embarrassing. | ||
| It's embarrassing for Colorado. | ||
| You know, I'm not a Coloradanian. | ||
| I hate to come in and point fingers, but our chapter leaders, our chapter members, the legislators that I spoke to, they're mortified. | ||
| I mean, they're making animal noises from the floor. | ||
| They're citing nursery rhymes time and time again when they get up there. | ||
| One of the senators last night, I guess a member of the It's that bad? | ||
| It's really bad. | ||
| I mean, I'm not one for hyperbole and over-exaggerating. | ||
| I'm definitely one to play things down and say, oh, it's going to be all right. | ||
| We're going to get through it. | ||
| This bill is atrocious for me to come out here to do this, to spend the day listening. | ||
| There's some really great things happening, though. | ||
| I don't want to be all doom and gloom tonight. | ||
| The grassroots here is very strong. | ||
| And, of course, we have Moms for Liberty chapters, but there's organizations like CPAN out here right now and Protect Kids Colorado. | ||
| Gays Against Groomers has a strong presence. | ||
| They've been rallying. | ||
| They've gathered over 30,000 petitions that they boxed up yesterday and did press conferences from the steps. | ||
| And, you know, they helped rally those seven to eight hundred speakers last night that signed up to speak. | ||
| And so the grassroots game is strong. | ||
| They're pushing back hard. | ||
| You know, the war is not over, but they're just so outnumbered in the House and the Senate. | ||
| And obviously, the governor is supportive of these things that it's going to take a long, probably 10 years of fighting. | ||
| If I could add one. | ||
| One more thing. | ||
| I was taking my Uber over to the Capitol this morning, and my Uber driver, who pretty much admitted he's apolitical, doesn't know a whole lot of what's going on, we discussed why I was here and what I was happening, and he said... | ||
| Didn't Trump solve all that? | ||
| Why is this still happening? | ||
| And I just said, oh, amen. | ||
| That is what's happening all around the country. | ||
| People have gone back to sleep because you brought up the election. | ||
| People were fighting. | ||
| They wanted President Trump in office. | ||
| They wanted his policies, his platform, which would stop all of these things. | ||
| He signed these executive orders. | ||
| But he can't do it alone, Steve. | ||
| And if I'm going to appeal to your viewers at all, I'm going to say he cannot do it alone. | ||
| We have to fight these fights now at the state level. | ||
| We have to fight them at the most local level in school boards. | ||
| We're doing that too, of course, all across the country. | ||
| But it's so important that we elect the right people at every single level, not just in presidential races. | ||
| I want to make sure, this is why I wanted you on tonight, because of what's happening out there, is that when this came up and became an issue in that race, and President Trump kept running those ads over and over again, and Terry Schilling can tell you this, it resonated with people, but most of it was like your cab driver saying, | ||
| what is going on, right? | ||
| Because if you're not... | ||
| You know, following the news closely and things like War Room, you would just miss it because it's not really reported. | ||
| They try to downplay it. | ||
| But most people in the country think, hey, this thing was settled. | ||
| This was like one of the easy ones that were settled. | ||
| As President Trump says, it's a 90-10 issue, but it's more than just men and women's sports. | ||
| The people on the other side of this that lost don't take it as a loss. | ||
| This transgender ideology and all the ideology associated with this issue on the other side, it's even deeper than a way of living. | ||
| It's a way of being. | ||
| And they are just not going to take a defeat at the ballot box. | ||
| They're going to come back and they're going to come back. | ||
| And if you want to drive this out of society, if you want to make sure that children are not exposed to this... | ||
| Folks, you know, you've got to hunker down on this thing. | ||
| I mean, am I wrong, Tina? | ||
| Like, for instance, in Florida, all the tough fights you guys have had there for school boards and libraries, would they ever believe what you've seen happen in the Colorado statehouse over the last day or two? | ||
| No, nobody believes it. | ||
| That's why I had to come here. | ||
| You know, the grassroots game is strong and they're doing well, like I said. | ||
| But I thought by bringing the national team of moms for everybody, having a town hall tonight, live streaming, we could get more national attention on what's going on because nobody believes it. | ||
| Like the Uber driver, it didn't Trump solve this problem. | ||
| Look, it's happening. | ||
| I mean, the bill is one thing, but these issues with gender ideology are still happening all over the country, including in Florida, in my own home, Red District. | ||
| They just had to fire a teacher who refused to use the child's birth name and birth pronoun. | ||
| And that violated, you know, not only the executive order, but state law in Florida. | ||
| And she had to lose her job. | ||
| They just didn't renew her contract. | ||
| But there's still protests going on in my community about that. | ||
| So this fight is far from over. | ||
| This gender ideology is a way of life. | ||
| It's their religion. | ||
| When you look at the definition of what a religion is, that is this. | ||
| Basic belief in most Judeo-Christian religion values and belief system is man and woman, husband and wife. | ||
| I mean, this is the core. | ||
| It's right in the beginning in the first book. | ||
| And so, you know, they're saying that that's not true. | ||
| It's their religion. | ||
| It's a whole other thing. | ||
| So, no, you know, a new president in office and a whole new administration and a few laws and executive orders is not going to stop what they believe. | ||
| Deep in their core, we have a lot more work to do. | ||
| Tell me about the Town Hall. | ||
| We're going to stream it live tonight on all our different platforms. | ||
| Grace and Mo are going to be all over this. | ||
| Tell us about the Town Hall. | ||
| What can we expect? | ||
| How did we get there? | ||
| Who's going to be on? | ||
| What time is it? | ||
| Thank you so much for streaming it, Steve. | ||
| I didn't know you guys were going to do that. | ||
| I am so grateful for that. | ||
| The town hall starts at 7 in Denver time. | ||
| It's about two hours. | ||
| It should be fascinating. | ||
| We're going to kick it off with Jennifer Say, opening it up, and Deborah Flora. | ||
| But we've got two state representatives from the House, Brandi Bradley, who happens to also be a chapter chair in Moms for Liberty, and Representative Jarvis Caldwell will be there. | ||
| They've been outspoken about this. | ||
| We've got Heritage Representative, Alliance Defending Freedom. | ||
| Parental Rights Division, Representative. | ||
| But most importantly, we have three parents telling their stories of what they've been dealing with, with their children, with gender identity, with the state getting involved. | ||
| And I think those are going to be powerful. | ||
| And then just like every one of our town halls, the last 30 to 40 minutes, we open it up to the public. | ||
| Everyone's been invited to this town hall. | ||
| It's free. | ||
| You do have to register and show your ID because obviously we get some bad actors sometimes and we need to know who they are. | ||
| They make bad decisions, poor decisions and have to be removed. | ||
| But it's open and, you know, it's open to all viewpoints. | ||
| Even if you support this bill, you can ask a question of your legislators. | ||
| You can ask a question of the panels. | ||
| And so all that's going to take place between 7 and 9 p.m. | ||
| If you are here in the Denver area, it's at the Beck Community Recreation Center in Aurora. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| I would make sure security is tight tonight because I'm sure you're going to have some disruptors. | ||
| And we're going to stream it everywhere at 9 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time. | ||
| Go ahead, ma 'am. | ||
| I was just going to say, the Sheriff's Office has been wonderful. | ||
| We hired off-duty police officers, uniformed. | ||
| We always do. | ||
| They recommended more than we originally offered to hire. | ||
| And then I think they're sending in extra and additional. | ||
| So they're all on it. | ||
| They've done a walkthrough already. | ||
| So don't be afraid to come out if you're local. | ||
| We always make sure security is tight and we make sure everybody's safe. | ||
| Thank you, ma 'am. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| Look forward to seeing you tonight. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Thanks for having me on and for streaming it tonight. | ||
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| Yes, ma 'am. | ||
| Virtual Rio Reset. | ||
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| Coming up with an alternative currency to the U.S. dollars, the prime reserve currency. | ||
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| No, it's not. | ||
| But you're about to see a lot more. | ||
| And you heard Philip Patrick talk about all these overlapping, interweaving networks. | ||
| They're trying to do something. | ||
| They're trying to destroy the United States of America. | ||
| And here's the problem. | ||
| Our elites, with the breach of fiduciary responsibility, kind of put us into this jam. | ||
| Who's going to get us out? | ||
| President Trump and the MAGA base. | ||
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| The end of the dollar empire, the Rio Reset. | ||
| As we go through every day, we're going to give an update of what to expect. | ||
| And of course, on Monday, we'll have a very, very, very special guest to talk about how the weaponization of the dollar changed the world order. | ||
| Only heavyweights come on here, folks. | ||
| Mike Lindell, last time we saw you, you were heading to the Rose Garden. | ||
| A lot happened since then. | ||
| Big prayer service. | ||
| Tell us about the prayer service, sir, before you talk to me about your pillows and your sheets. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'll tell you, everybody, you know, four years ago or whatever it was in the spring of 2020 when I spoke at the Rose Garden and said God had given us grace for such a time as this and our nation had turned its back on God. | ||
| And as you all know, when I did that speech and went around the world and everyone's going, you can't mix God and government. | ||
| Well, Steve, it's come full circle now. | ||
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| You don't have any remorse. | ||
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