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Episode 4431: Glenn Beck LIVE In The WarRoom
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
Mega Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
glenn beck
War Room.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome.
It is Tuesday, 22 April, Year of Our Lord 2025.
A special edition of The War Room.
The Great Glenn Beck.
Thank you.
Juan, you're in D.C. for a couple of days.
glenn beck
Yeah, I don't like coming here.
steve bannon
I know that.
I know that.
You spend very little time here.
glenn beck
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, in 1982, I lived here.
And I was just walking around the Capitol, tried to get up, show my wife the, you know, the bronze doors and the, what are they called, the Columbus doors?
Yes. And we can't even get close to them.
We can't even get close to them.
This is a nightmare.
unidentified
No, it's totally changed.
steve bannon
What this place has turned into.
unidentified
Totally changed.
glenn beck
Totally changed.
steve bannon
I want to go back a couple of things.
I've only got an hour with you.
The crisis we have before us today.
You know, Thomas Paine wrote The Crisis.
We just had the 250th of Lexington Concord.
Was it 14 years ago, when you first came on my radar, was when you were doing The Absolute Dead Zone at Fox at 5 o'clock.
Yeah. Which you made the new primetime.
glenn beck
It was crazy.
steve bannon
No, Rachel, Nicole Wallace, that whole crowd that have now those shows.
And a guy named Roger Ailes didn't think it could be pulled off.
I know.
glenn beck
I honestly didn't either.
When I met with him, he said, what is it about our number one status and the money that I know is more than you're making now that doesn't interest you?
And I said a couple things.
You don't know my business.
I know yours, but you don't know my business.
And the second thing is, 5 o'clock, it's never been successful.
Ever. Ever.
And I said, I don't want to be a little...
Curio cabinet piece that you've just taken off the board and put in a cabinet that nobody sees.
And he's like, no, you'll do it.
I'm like, nah.
I don't think you even believe it.
steve bannon
So he approached you to do, at the time, the 5 o'clock.
glenn beck
5 o'clock.
unidentified
5 o'clock.
steve bannon
Yeah. The reason I saw you is guys on Wall Street contacted me and said, hey, is this guy on Fox late in the afternoon, not Fox Business or CNBC, a guy late in the afternoon that's talking about quantitative tightening.
A quantitative easing.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
steve bannon
Easy. And I go, You're kidding me.
And not on Bloomberg?
And he says no.
And I started watching it.
And it was absolutely incredible.
And I saw that the audience couldn't get enough of it.
Did you have the blackboard at the time or the whiteboard?
Because you did do a transition to a whiteboard eventually, right?
glenn beck
I think when I left there.
I was always blackboard when I was there.
But it was, I remember meeting a Columbia University professor, 2008, and the crash had happened, and I had been talking about it for a couple of years.
And he came up to me and said, where'd you get your degree in economics?
And I thought, you.
steve bannon
I'm a shock jack.
glenn beck
I said, nowhere.
In fact, I don't have a degree in anything.
And he said, I knew it.
And I was about to hit him, and he said, I can't get my students to think like you.
And he said, I knew you had to have no formal education because everybody gets trapped in the system.
Oh, we have all these safety, you know, valves and it's a system and it's going to protect itself.
And I kept standing outside of the system going, you're lying to yourself.
Can't you all see what's coming?
And, you know, because of what the Fed did.
We haven't paid the full price yet.
steve bannon
Well, the bailout of 2008.
You're saying the crash and the bailout of 2008.
unidentified
Yeah. You come to Fox when?
glenn beck
2008, right after the crash.
steve bannon
2008. And how did Roger Ailes pick you?
glenn beck
I have no idea.
We got to know each other.
I was over at CNN, and we would have dinner together from time to time.
steve bannon
You were doing headline news, and you made that show at 5 o'clock.
It was at 7, I think.
7, but it was like it had traction.
Headline news had never had a breakout show, but you were starting to get traction.
glenn beck
Right, and so we just talked about television, and he used to call me Jack Parr.
He's like, you're Jack Parr, which was a huge compliment.
steve bannon
For our audience, Jack Parr did the night show before Johnny Carson had a certain style.
He invented it.
glenn beck
And he left at the height of it.
And when I left, Roger said, you're not really going to leave.
And I said, he said, nobody leaves.
I said, one did.
He said, Jack Parr.
unidentified
That's good.
glenn beck
But anyway, you know, it's strange.
I was thinking about it the other day that when I went.
To Fox.
And this is what really bothers me.
When I went to Fox, I was on Neil Cavuto's show.
And I'm talking about, you know, everything that we're doing and how we are just making the problem bigger and bigger.
The more we hold it up, this is unnatural.
And I said, this is going to eventually come and really bite us in the ass.
And I finish, and Neil was very polite.
And then we go off the air.
And I get up and I said, thank you, Neil.
And he didn't even look at me.
He sat there like this and he was writing and he said, you are the most irresponsible person I've ever met in my life.
And I was like, what?
Because I really like Neil.
And I said, what?
He said, I can't believe what you just said.
And I said, wait, wait, wait.
You just put me on the air.
If you disagreed with what I said, why didn't you say something?
He said, because I don't.
And I said, so how am I irresponsible?
He said, we all know it's going to happen, but we have a responsibility to the people to not tell them.
And I said, excuse me?
What do you mean we have a responsibility to not tell people?
Those are the people, all you bankers, all you big financial guys, you all know and you're going to get bailed out and you're going to get bailed out by the little guy.
And you have a responsibility, they'll freak out.
Give them the benefit of the doubt.
Tell them the truth.
Try telling them the truth.
steve bannon
And that's why the show was such a big hit.
So it was at the same time of the Tea Party.
And the Tea Party was taxed enough already, but it was kind of amorphous of what it believed.
No crony capitalism.
But your show became kind of the go-to spot late in the afternoon.
You made 5 o'clock, but you continued to harp on the financial condition of the country, the bailout and the financial condition.
Now, I think the debt at the time was $4 or $5 trillion.
glenn beck
Oh, yeah.
steve bannon
And it was nothing.
unidentified
I guess at the end of the show, it was $6 or $7.
steve bannon
But you were talking about quantitative easing, blowing up the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve to bail it out.
glenn beck
Everything, Steve, everything.
steve bannon
And it was self-taught, right?
glenn beck
Yeah. Yeah.
Everything that, to me, that they were doing and was coming was so obvious.
If you just approach it and say, I don't know anything about any of your little systems of protection.
Let me just look at this and see what you're headed for.
It was so obvious.
And everything that they said, because I was just brutalized, you know, they're never going to inflate the money.
Okay, how are they going to get out of it?
We're never going to have quantitative easing.
Okay, tell me about that one.
Everything. Moody's will never downgrade the United States.
No one will ever sell our treasuries.
They'll never lose faith in the United States because, as I used to say to them, they'd say, we're still the strongest in the world.
And I said, you mean we're just the floatiest piece of poop in the toilet?
Everybody else just sinks a little bit further, but we're at the top.
We're still going to be flushed when the time comes.
steve bannon
We're still the prime reserve currency.
unidentified
Yeah, I know.
glenn beck
And that'll never, we'll never lose that.
That'll never change.
steve bannon
These little nations, they just got to take the dollar.
glenn beck
Oh my gosh.
steve bannon
And look at where we are now.
I want to get there.
This is around 2010, 2011.
The Tea Party has that monster midterm election in 2010.
We win 62 seats.
Then everybody wants to know about the Tea Party.
At the time, did you ever think that 14 years later, We'd actually be at $37 trillion, $2 trillion annual deficits, with literally the political class being unable to cut any spending.
glenn beck
The thing that amazes me is that we're still standing.
It's much more resilient than I thought it would be.
I really didn't think.
I mean, look at the body blows this thing has taken since September 11th.
Over and over and over again, just body blow after body blow.
And then you take all of the...
The pillars out.
You just destroy all the pillars and this house is still standing.
That's how strong this country is.
Imagine if we actually, I don't know, put a pillar up or two that belong there.
steve bannon
Talk to me about that.
The institutional pillars, is that what you're...
Because right now, this crisis of economic and finance, of geopolitical, of spiritual, cultural...
glenn beck
It's all of it.
steve bannon
All of it.
glenn beck
It's all of it.
And it's all been done intentionally.
I'm convinced.
steve bannon
Because at the time, also, you were first to start talking about the Cloward pivot.
Andrew came in, and Andrew's big thing was the Frankfurt School.
You start talking about Cloward pivot.
So you're not a conspiracy theorist, but you actually think that this is well thought through.
How do you not?
glenn beck
Come on.
How do people not see that at this point?
You couldn't be this wrong every time if you tried.
You have to be brilliant to be this wrong all the time.
You know what I mean?
There's no way it always falls to that side.
And it's because they are managing the decline.
That's all they're doing, is managing the decline.
And Donald Trump is the first guy to, A, say, this is really...
I understand it because I'm not a tariff guy, but it's really pissing me off.
Because... Well, I'm not a tariff guy.
steve bannon
You're not a tariff guy, because I haven't turned you to an economic populist yet.
glenn beck
We're going to get there.
I'm not a tariff guy, but I will tell you this.
That guy, he's the only one, he's the only doctor we've had in probably my lifetime, since maybe Reagan, that will actually tell you and say, yeah, you're riddled with cancer.
And this whole thing, this whole body is going to die unless we start cutting the cancer out.
And at this point, it has to be so radical.
That it's like chemotherapy.
You use chemotherapy hoping that it doesn't kill the human body before it kills the cancer.
steve bannon
Go back.
I want to talk about managed decline.
What do you mean by that?
Do you think the elites in our country of both almost the neoliberal neocons, it is about the managed decline of the country?
glenn beck
I mean, they don't like America.
They don't think that we deserve to be America.
They don't see a value in America.
They don't.
None of them seem to be looking for an answer.
steve bannon
They believe we're colonists here.
We've taken this land illegally.
glenn beck
And yet, those people, I mean, Steve, help me out on this one.
You remember Occupy Wall Street?
steve bannon
Oh, yeah.
glenn beck
Okay. They were against Wall Street.
steve bannon
Tim Pool and all those guys.
glenn beck
They were all against Wall Street.
They were all, we got to take down Wall Street.
Then, all of a sudden, Occupy Wall Street just disappeared.
Yeah. And they start popping up at the World Economic Forum.
Right. OK. And then all of those people that they were camping out in front of all of those big, big corporations, the big banks, all of the big banks and big corporations start writing them quiet checks to fund it.
Honestly, the NGOs and all that it is.
Right. Clearly, leave us alone.
Just leave us alone.
We hear you.
We hear you.
It only makes sense because everybody said to me for the longest time, Glenn, there's too much money at stake.
The people with money are never going to let this thing collapse.
They're right.
They're going to change it.
They'll have their place at the table.
steve bannon
They'll adapt.
glenn beck
And they're spinning this thing down into something else.
Okay? And we all know it.
I mean, you just watched the first speech that Joe Biden gave.
As his first speech he gave in front of Congress when everybody was still wearing masks and they were like sitting six feet apart.
steve bannon
Yeah, a couple weeks after.
It's not called State of the Union.
It's a joint address.
glenn beck
And in that, he said things that I've not heard anybody else talk about.
He looked, instead of at the camera, he looked at the people in the House and the Senate and said, it's because of you people that we're here.
It's because of your resilience that we're able to move forward.
He saw the world as Woodrow Wilson did, as people.
That are in control or managing everything and screw the little people.
And somehow or another, Donald Trump is the, I don't know, the oligarch?
steve bannon
Really? Well, it's also telling that they gave a lot of lip service.
In that first hundred days to actually taxing the billionaires, but it never made it.
They had Schumer ran the Senate, Pelosi ran the House, and she ran it, you know, like a mob boss.
You had Biden, and they never even got out of committee.
All talk about the oligarchs.
Like today, they talk about the oligarchs, but President Trump is actually thinking of having the upper bracket pay a different tax rate.
And we're in federal court this week with both Google and Facebook.
To break up the oligarchy, and yet these guys are out there on the oligarch tour, but they will never touch the puppet masters that control, the lords of easy money that control.
glenn beck
It bothers me, and I'd love for you to explain this, it bothers me that Donald Trump is talking about hitting the upper...
Because the real oligarchs, they don't pay income tax.
They don't pay it.
It's all dividends and everything else they squirrel with.
They don't make an income anymore.
steve bannon
They have all the tax breaks, so they're most concerned about taxing their assets like they do in Europe.
Correct. I just think, to me, it's just pure mathematics.
Unless you're at the growth rates we have, let's say, optimistically, it's 3%.
With this $6.5 or $7 trillion of federal spending and the $3.5 or $1.7 discretionary, with $1 trillion of that being the Defense Department, if you're going to give additional tax cuts on no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, and no tax on Social Security to the working class and middle class who need tax relief,
extending The upper brackets, which I fought in 17, I said you shouldn't tax them because the argument is they don't pay that much income tax anyway.
unidentified
So you've got to get as much squeezed out of the juice.
glenn beck
Here's what bothers me.
Where the hell is Congress?
We need the biggest...
steve bannon
Well, hold it.
You were the lead of...
I want to go back in time.
In 2010, off a much smaller base, I think the Republicans only had 150 seats about now.
That was the greatest.
Remember those days, 62 seats in a house that the donors really didn't come on.
That was that Tea Party Congress of 2010.
Because you kind of see it today.
What happened to those guys?
Remember, we had all the fire.
glenn beck
They all sold their soul.
steve bannon
Tell people how that works.
Because remember, that was something that people got in back of.
Breitbart got in back of it.
Glenn Beck was in back.
In fact, Fox was kind of caught by surprise because they're Bush guys.
They would send some guys to Tea Party things.
All of a sudden, when Sarah Palin was at the top of her game, the whole thing clicked.
We could have made changes right then if you had leadership.
glenn beck
But you can't go in.
Everybody is...
They either are convinced that they have to make compromises to be able to get in on the right committee.
And if I do this, then I'll do that.
Once you do this, you're done.
And then I know a lot of them that were there, that were good people.
And I've always said, you've got to guard your soul, man.
Because this whole system, and I know this, you have to know this too, being around Hollywood and everything else.
If you're effective, if you're good.
They will offer you anything to stay.
Okay? Anything.
Drugs. Women.
Whatever you want.
Whatever you want.
Whatever your wildest dream is.
Once you say yes to that, you're done.
And you convince yourself.
You know a Republican or any servant has gone wrong when they say, you know, but if I'm not here, who's going to do it?
You know what I mean?
steve bannon
I've seen one person Donald Trump.
I'm just doing some compromises so I can stay here and fix the system from within.
Why does that not work?
glenn beck
Because you're compromised.
You're compromised.
You're part of the system.
Once they have you, once you're captured, you're done.
And they make it almost impossible.
That's why it's so important for people to remain involved.
Because if you're not backing those people who are standing there all by themselves, they're alone and there's no chance of success.
The only person I've seen actually do this is Donald Trump because he does not care.
He does not.
steve bannon
Well, definitely on the comeback and now, there's no care at all.
The first time it wasn't care, but he was much more reach out to try to have...
glenn beck
I think he was shocked.
I mean, you know, you've seen the footage of him on The View like three weeks before he came down the escalator and they were kissing him on the mouth, saying, we just love you.
Then all of a sudden, everybody hates him.
He's a Nazi.
That just had to be a punch in the face.
That he just didn't see.
steve bannon
Let's go back.
Of the crisis we have, and it's all one thing.
If you had to triage it for a way out of here, the cultural, the spiritual, the financial and economic, the geopolitical, all of it, how would you rank order how you go about trying to find a solution,
given the fact that you were the first warning shot, true warning shot, 14 years ago, that In fact, you came out with a book with Schweitzer called Debt that was a big hit at the time.
That if you go back and read that book today, it's like you wrote it last week.
glenn beck
You go back to the book, not the American Crisis, Common Sense, that I wrote in 2007.
And you read that about debt and you're like, oh my, I could republish it today.
Except the numbers are so minuscule.
steve bannon
But it's like ripped from today's headlines.
glenn beck
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's the same problem over and over again.
So if you had to fix it...
steve bannon
And you're saying that it shows the resilience of the...
I think a lot of that's predicated on the fact that we're still the prime reserve currency.
Yes. That they have to...
Our greatest export is the dollar.
Everything's got to be converted into the dollar.
Yeah. And the bricks are coming together.
glenn beck
I mean, look, what we're doing right now, this is what people don't understand about Donald Trump.
He called it Liberation Day for a reason.
1945-46, we liberate Europe and we put this insane system together.
And it's probably the right thing to do at the time.
It's not even close to the right thing now.
steve bannon
How did that get co-opted?
All the dreams of the guys in the battlefield were the greatest generation.
Then you had a group of leaders done it.
Why did they set up a system that's a total globalist system?
That goes back to what Woodrow Wilson wanted.
glenn beck
Woodrow Wilson and the Federal Reserve.
steve bannon
And the FDR guys.
glenn beck
Yeah. You get that trio together, it's a disaster.
I mean, this has been coming since Woodrow Wilson.
steve bannon
But you were really the first guy to out him as a progressive.
In American history, he'd kind of been forgotten about.
glenn beck
Oh, they loved him.
All the university professors, he was always top five.
He was a monster.
He was a literal monster.
steve bannon
Progressive and a racist at the same time.
Yeah. How do you do that?
glenn beck
Yeah, I don't know exactly.
I don't know.
steve bannon
Not truly progressive, right?
glenn beck
Yeah, you're right.
No, truly progressive.
Yes. You know, as Hillary Clinton said, I fashion myself an early 20th century American progressive.
Really? You mean the racist ones?
steve bannon
Yes, yes.
glenn beck
Yeah, the ones that were into eugenics and taught the Germans how to do it?
steve bannon
Yes, that singer came out of the whole crowd.
glenn beck
Yeah, no, it's bad.
This is bad.
But so 1945, 46, after the war, we set this whole thing up.
Then the UN comes in.
We're doing fine.
Bretton Woods, okay?
We're making all the products and rebuilding the world.
And they're all buying our products.
1972 comes along.
We want war and we want a big state.
Can't have it.
Nixon takes us off the gold standard.
steve bannon
In one weekend.
It's never talked about.
unidentified
I know.
steve bannon
It's never talked about.
glenn beck
I know.
steve bannon
People think FDR took us off the gold standard.
Actually, Nixon did.
glenn beck
No, Nixon did.
steve bannon
Over a weekend.
glenn beck
Yeah. We had French.
Who knew France even had battleships?
unidentified
The French battleships were in the harbor of New York saying give us our gold.
steve bannon
Yeah, they had demanded it and we said, hey, can't find it.
glenn beck
Okay, I don't know where I put all that gold.
So here he is.
He gets us off the gold standard and we make a deal with the world because the world is like, okay, we're out.
We're out.
We can't lose the world's reserve currency.
So we make two deals.
One, we're going to buy all your products.
We're going to be the buyers.
We'll be the consumers.
You'll be the manufacturers.
And the whole world loves that.
So they buy into that.
steve bannon
Because at the moment, we're a manufacturing superpower, hegemon, and we have a pristine balance sheet.
Almost virtually no debt.
A little bit, but almost no debt.
And a pretty highly, although blue-collar, a pretty highly skilled and educated workforce.
Because at that time, still Catholic education and still public education had not collapsed.
glenn beck
I'd have my kids live in Detroit back then, right now.
1962, I'll take that.
So you have him then saying, we'll become the buyer, and Saudi Arabia, back us up.
We'll become the petrodollar.
So everybody will be forced.
steve bannon
Everything's converted into this.
glenn beck
Everything's converted into that.
So we become the buyer.
Well, that's the dumbest thing.
That's the dumbest thing ever.
We start teaching our children.
steve bannon
Well, hang on one second.
I want to go back.
Because that crisis of the currency and the crisis was driven by By this time, the greatest generation was now coming into power.
It's driven by, because Johnson, Nixon, and Kennedy all served in the war as junior officers.
They weren't the leaders.
They decided to do two things.
Vietnam, which talks about bigger issues of what they thought about military power and the Great Society, which we thought we had no, we thought we had infinite capacity to do both.
glenn beck
Yeah, we were lied to.
I mean, we've been lied to my whole life.
You can have both.
You can have it all.
You can't.
You can't.
That was the time where you had the big military industrial complex people saying, we've got to have the war machine.
And on the other side, the big liberals saying, no, we've got to take care of everyone.
And what did Nixon do?
We can have both.
Let's have both.
We shouldn't have either of those things, okay?
steve bannon
Because he came in, he had an opportunity.
He tried to stop the Vietnam War, but particularly if he was a true conservative.
And Dixon did a lot of good things, but one thing, he made a pact with the devil right out of the box and said, I'm not going to change anything, because he was kind of a liberal in domestic politics.
He got Daniel Patrick Moynihan.
Patrick Moynihan would be a radical right-wing Democrat.
glenn beck
He'd be a Nazi.
steve bannon
He'd be like Bobby Kennedy and these guys, or even Trump.
Trump was a Democrat back then.
I know.
That inability to make that decision is what drove the financial crisis that got us off the gold standard.
glenn beck
And then when Reagan gets in, he says it.
He doesn't do anything about it.
But he says, I just want you to know, over the horizon, maybe around the turn of the century, it's going to get so ugly, there won't be any good options.
steve bannon
And he was a gold standard guy.
I mean, we had the raging inflation.
He had to have Volcker and wring it out of it.
But as far as deficits go...
And actually, all of his belief in gold as going back to a gold-backed currency, all out the window.
glenn beck
All out the window.
steve bannon
You think that was because of the Bush influence in the...
glenn beck
Oh, yeah.
steve bannon
Jim Baker and that crowd?
glenn beck
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
steve bannon
And Nancy Reagan with all the models.
glenn beck
I mean, the whole Bush...
steve bannon
He took down the evil empire, but the rest of it was...
glenn beck
He had one.
I think he had one real two.
Real accomplishments.
Taking down the evil empire, which by itself is enormous.
And to restore our faith in ourselves.
That's what Trump is trying to do.
steve bannon
But go back to Reagan.
Talk about it.
Tell people, because a lot of our viewers, their parents weren't dating back in those days.
Talk to us about the crisis of confidence in America in the late 70s.
glenn beck
We were in exactly the same place.
Not as...
Not as bad, not as backed up to the hilt as we are now.
Our back is against the wall.
It felt like it at the time.
We had stagflation, so...
No jobs were being created.
Nobody was getting richer.
The inflation was going up.
It was horrible.
steve bannon
Inflation, like the interest rates were 18%.
glenn beck
Yeah, 18%.
Thank you, Federal Reserve.
And then on top of that, you had the same kind of things happening in our cities where they were out of control.
There were war zones in our cities.
steve bannon
It's the same thing, except Well, the place we're here now, Capitol Hill, right back to the Supreme Court, was not, I mean, this was a very, it's a dangerous neighborhood now.
It was almost an unlivable dangerous neighborhood back then.
glenn beck
Bad, bad.
And so he corrected that.
steve bannon
How did he do that?
unidentified
You're a student of leadership.
steve bannon
How did he instore confidence in the American people in themselves?
glenn beck
He did the same thing that Donald Trump.
I think they're cut from the same cloth.
I've never seen.
Have you ever seen a guy who's surrounded by more gold stuff than Donald Trump?
And yet he is a McDonald's man.
He's a guy who is absolutely relatable.
Yes. Somehow or another.
unidentified
To the common man.
glenn beck
He never lived it.
Ronald Reagan lived the common man life.
Trump never lived the common man.
But he understands it, and it's who he is to his core.
Same thing with Ronald Reagan.
He could speak to the average person, didn't matter what party they were from, and he could appeal to their best instincts.
And at the time, you know, he would make fun of the Democrats all the time.
He would start his speeches with a joke about the Democrats every time.
But it was good nature, and everybody's like, ah!
steve bannon
Boy, have times changed.
glenn beck
Have times changed.
steve bannon
And I'm talking about even the Obama era.
If you go back and look at the issues we were all over back then, it's like kindergarten compared to today.
It's so vicious and the stakes are so high.
But back to Reagan.
He could tease Tip O'Neill and they said to go have a drink afterwards.
Because that Democratic Party, the Cloward Piven and all that, the radical nature of the Democrats had not kicked in.
When did that start seeping into the politics?
glenn beck
Clinton, the voter, motor voter law.
That's Cloward and Piven.
I mean, they were there, or at least she was there.
steve bannon
Tell our audience who may not know who are Cloward and Piven.
Why is the Frankfurt School and Cloward and Piven so important for where the United States has been?
glenn beck
So the communists are chased out of Germany because, believe it or not, Fascism and communism are enemies.
As a free market, you know, somebody who loves freedom, seem pretty close to the same.
But the communists are up against the Germans or the Nazis.
The Nazis are chasing them out.
So they all leave the institutions over in Germany to get away.
All the communists do.
They come over here.
steve bannon
To Southern California.
Yeah. They go to Southern California, most beautiful places.
It's like the Italian Riviera.
The most beautiful weather, nicest people there in Hollywood.
glenn beck
Samford University.
steve bannon
And they're full of hate.
They hate everything about it.
I could understand if you got stuck in some bad part of the country.
I don't know where that would be, but they come.
It's like the Muslim guy that went to Colorado, remember him?
The guy that wrote The Radical Sheik that came over here for college, remember, ended up in Centennial, Colorado, and said, these are the worst people.
He went to a square dance.
He said, this is awful.
He had a hatred.
unidentified
They go to the best.
glenn beck
And square dances aren't really something we should shout about.
steve bannon
Exactly. So they go to Southern California and they literally hate America.
Yeah. And everything comes out of that.
They have to take down America.
glenn beck
Yeah. And they're joining the people that were there.
I mean, Stanford University, that's where the Human Betterment Society is from.
All those buildings at Stanford, they're all named after eugenics.
And all the eugenics thing that went over to Germany, it's all Southern California, okay?
And so that happens.
And then these people are raised, Johns Hopkins, around the turn of the century.
They become the first progressive school with genetic.
I mean, all of this really bad stew is happening.
And they decide they're going to get in and start really teaching a new idea of America.
And Cloward and Piven come out of this back in the 60s and 70s.
They're professors at, I think, I think it's CUNY, isn't it?
I can't remember which university.
steve bannon
Old City College.
City University of New York.
glenn beck
So they're teaching.
steve bannon
A hotbed of radicalism for a long time.
glenn beck
Oh, yeah.
And they're teaching, let's sign everybody up for all of the benefits that the city is offering because there's no way they could pay for all those benefits.
Yes. So let's get everybody on the dole.
steve bannon
And crash the system.
glenn beck
And crash the system.
And they did it.
It worked.
It worked.
steve bannon
New York went into bankruptcy.
glenn beck
Bankruptcy. Yeah.
Okay. That's what's happening now.
steve bannon
That's the same thing.
Make it so the system can't function.
Correct. And then when it collapsed and the chaos, they would take charge.
glenn beck
Look at...
Donald Trump has removed, I don't even know, 350,000 people so far that have come in here illegally.
Yes. A nothing number compared to, let's say, Bill Clinton.
steve bannon
Yeah. Of the 10 million that Biden allowed in in a very organized invasion of the country.
glenn beck
Oh, you're being so kind to Biden by seeing only 10 million.
steve bannon
You think there's more than 10?
glenn beck
Yeah. Okay.
steve bannon
I'm not talking about anybody who came before.
There's 20, 30, maybe 40, according to Ann Coulter.
But do you think on Biden's watch there's more than 10?
Yeah. Do you think that those all have to be mass deported?
Yeah. Okay, so do I. Now, given the fact we've had a firestorm just on MS-13, and you've got the Democrats...
glenn beck
It shows who they are, doesn't it?
steve bannon
It's pretty blatant, right?
glenn beck
I mean, you have to be a Democrat now and just go, wait a minute, wait a minute.
What am I standing with?
I'm standing with people who are now standing up for the Palestinians, who are okay.
All those people on the streets, they're all okay with what happened on October 7th.
steve bannon
Oh, they wanted more.
glenn beck
Yeah. Yeah, so I got to be okay with that.
And I have to be okay with...
steve bannon
Because they're colonizers, the Israelis.
glenn beck
Yeah, yeah.
I have to be okay with the new colonizers coming in here.
10 million people, MS-13, raping, killing our children.
You know, even at best, even at best, they're good-hearted people that are here, just want a better life.
I understand that.
I do understand that.
unidentified
If I were in Mexico, I would be the first one to go.
steve bannon
If Biden's going to invite you, I'm going El Norte, 100%.
glenn beck
Let's look at what that's doing to our children in our school system.
steve bannon
And Hispanic and black families, working class.
And Wall Street did this on purpose to lower the wages among unskilled workers.
Because they're the problem, not the investment barrier.
The problem we had is wage inflation among the low-skilled workers.
That was the problem.
glenn beck
We are...
We're just being played from every single angle.
And so now Donald Trump comes in and says, it's Liberation Day.
It's Liberation Day.
steve bannon
And what does that mean to you?
glenn beck
To me, and I don't know.
I'm going to see him on Wednesday.
I've got to ask him.
I think he named it that because I want everyone to understand, all those who are paying attention, Europe.
Yeah, Liberation Day.
Liberation from the last Liberation Day.
We came in.
We set all this stuff up.
It's no longer good for us.
It no longer works for us.
steve bannon
You're saying that this truly, in Trump's view, is the beginning of the end of World War II.
Everything we did at the end of World War II.
glenn beck
What are you saying about NATO?
steve bannon
Giving China to the Chinese Communist Party.
Abandoning the Russian people and letting the Bolsheviks run it, which eventually the KGB, and embracing basically guys who didn't fight with us.
None of the NATO nations, really, all the elites there, except for the British, right?
If you look at the French, the Italians, the Germans, the Swedes, the Quislings in Norway, right?
The Irish, my Irish, they were terrible, right?
glenn beck
But look what they're doing now.
Look at what all those countries are doing.
They're importing, they're going to be Islamic nations with a nuclear weapon.
steve bannon
Why the European elites on the culture, which is the foundational element of the Judeo-Christian West, right?
That was the first part to Christianize outside the desert.
Why do they have a death wish?
Why are the elites allowing it to happen?
glenn beck
Because I think they buy into Klaus Schwab and all of that evil bullcrap about, we're going to create a new world.
And we will all run it from the top.
That's what they're thinking.
Progressives always do this.
They look at themselves as ranchers and we're sheep.
The sheep don't need to know anything.
Just go stand over there.
And they'll kill us one by one and eat us one by one.
But they're sheep.
They'll never know.
The rancher has all the power.
steve bannon
In the middle of this mix, the geopolitics, the cultural, the financial.
We now add the technological.
We're basically flat until the Industrial Revolution.
Then the productivity of mankind goes through the roof.
And technology frees people over time from labor.
Now you're in a situation with the convergence of advanced chip design and quantum computing and artificial intelligence, AGI, regenerative robotics, the singularity.
On that point, which used to be science fiction and fantasy, and when the book was written 20 years ago, it said it was going to take place in the late 21st century.
CBS has 60 Minutes last night, and the guy's saying outside five or ten years.
glenn beck
1995, I'm talking about the singularity, and I'm saying it's coming in 2030.
And no one was saying that.
No one was saying that.
steve bannon
So the singularity, that convergence point.
On this side is homo sapien.
On the other side is homo sapien plus.
Would you concur that that is the most important inflection point in mankind's history, absence of birth and death of Christ?
glenn beck
So there's two ways to look at the singularity, if you will.
Singularity, to some, means man and machine merging, the Borg.
Most important thing, you lose your humanity.
That's when I go all Amish.
And, you know, I talked to, you know who Ray Kurzweil is?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
steve bannon
Well, he wrote the book.
And he was kind of an outside fringe guy.
Now he's head of development at Google.
glenn beck
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
steve bannon
Pretty powerful position.
glenn beck
Oh, yeah.
So, he's a terrifying...
I've had several interviews with him.
He is absolutely terrifying.
But he doesn't know it.
unidentified
No. He doesn't know it.
steve bannon
Just what he says.
glenn beck
Yeah, he just doesn't know it.
steve bannon
No, to him, it's like...
Oh, it's great.
It's great.
glenn beck
It's great.
Because there is no...
There's no...
There's no soul.
There's nothing unique about the body and the soul.
It's just a collection of synapses.
steve bannon
Are they mocking the Holy Spirit?
Are they mocking God when they do this?
Oh, this is so evil.
No doubt.
glenn beck
This is so evil.
We are, if we're lucky, Tower of Babel will happen to us.
I mean, I've thought about this for years.
Tower of Babel, people don't understand.
What happened there was, and I talked to a...
And so I said, help me out on something.
Nebuchadnezzar comes out in front of the people, and he gets everybody excited, and he says, let's build bricks, and we're going to build a tower to the sky.
steve bannon
To heaven.
glenn beck
Yeah, to heaven.
What bothered me was I've never heard a politician start with the menial stuff, okay?
Why did he say, first, let's build bricks and then get to the exciting stuff?
Does it mean nothing?
He said, good, good observation.
Whenever you read about bricks and stones in the scriptures, bricks are slaves.
Stones are individuals.
So he's talking not to the people.
He's talking to the elites.
Let's make bricks.
Let's make slaves that everybody is interchangeable.
That doesn't matter.
You live, you die.
It doesn't matter.
Because what we're going to do is we're going to do something to build a tower.
We'll become godlike.
Okay? In the oral tradition, the good God, the merciful God comes down and destroys.
And he says, If they can do this, they can do anything.
So he changes their language and scrambles their language.
The only thing that will save us after the singularity...
It's a scrambling of our ones and zeros.
steve bannon
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
I'm going to back up.
In 1995, I think Kurzweil was in the music business at the time, and you're a shock jock, right?
Yeah. How did you, in being a shock jock, how did you come up with understanding even this concept?
Because technocracy, and this is one of the powers of Brzezinski, the new biography, they don't really get into, but unlike Kissinger...
He looked downrange at this thing called the technocracy, which was starting to come up, right?
What we call the oligarchs today, the tech oligarchs.
Why did you see that in 95?
glenn beck
I just saw the way technology was going.
And Ray wasn't just in the music industry.
I mean, he made the Kurzweil piano.
steve bannon
Yes. Synthesizer, wasn't it?
glenn beck
I think he made it for Stevie Wonder.
Yes. But he was...
steve bannon
Well, he was bringing technology to the music.
glenn beck
Yes. But he was also a futurist at the time.
Yes. And so I read a lot of his stuff.
steve bannon
Oh, you were reading that stuff back then?
glenn beck
Oh, yeah, yeah.
steve bannon
It scared you back in'95.
glenn beck
Have you read The Age of Spiritual Machines from the'90s?
steve bannon
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Well, I tell you, if you read Kaczynski, the Unabomber, I mean, his manifesto.
Can be pretty scary about how he tried to warn about at least certain aspects of the technocracy in society.
glenn beck
The wrong way on that one.
steve bannon
Well, I think his execution was a little different, right?
Yeah. His execution was a little different.
So in 95, what did you say?
glenn beck
We're going to enter a world.
I remember I said it to my producer, still my producer.
I said, soon we are going to enter a world where your television will be in your pocket.
You will have download times where you're not watching.
Thursday night must-see TV on NBC.
It'll either download a certain day at midnight, and you watch it whenever you want, or they'll download the whole season and you can watch it.
And I said, but what comes after that is this growth of an intellectual being, AI, AGI, and ASI.
When we get to that, you're starting to ask questions about life itself that nobody's asking yet.
I've been beating the drum.
There are questions we have to answer before we get here, and we're not going to.
steve bannon
Well, first of all, your point about once we hit the singularity...
It's almost too late to become mom.
If we don't do it now, I mean like right now.
glenn beck
The singularity is two things.
It's one, merging of man and machine, but the other singularity, if you look at a black hole, the singularity is the point of no return.
So in other words, let's say you're in a rowboat and you're just going down the stream and you're having fun and you're girls with an umbrella strangely dressed in Victorian clothing and you're rowing and you start to hear a rumble.
And you start to row and now you're sucked into it and you realize that's a waterfall and there's nothing you can do.
You can't get out of it.
steve bannon
And you can't turn around.
glenn beck
Where you can't turn around.
steve bannon
The current is too strong.
glenn beck
Too strong.
That's what Elon Musk meant about the singularity when he said we are at the point of the singularity.
steve bannon
Of no return now.
glenn beck
Yes, meaning we are now at that point of no return.
We're going to be sucked into this thing.
So the spiritual questions and spiritual ramifications of this are enormous.
The intellectual ramifications.
I know you've read Yuval Noah Harari.
Yes. He's a scary dude.
Scary. And he sees all this.
He knows what's coming.
And he says there's going to be...
steve bannon
He wrote about Homo Sapiens and Homo Deus.
Yes. The second book is scary.
glenn beck
The second one's terrifying.
Terrifying. And he talks about...
And you'll notice everybody who's in the WEF...
Loves him.
In fact, he's rumored to be the guy who's going to replace Klaus Schwab.
Right? Right.
steve bannon
If he doesn't, as the head of it, he's the intellectual.
glenn beck
He's the intellectual power.
And he talks about the millions of people that are going to be useless people.
I've heard useless eaters before.
And what are we going to do?
Well, we're going to either hook them to technology or to drugs.
Okay. If you don't, if you're not aware of all of this, this stuff is going to come at you so fast.
It's going to be like social media, except there is no return.
steve bannon
Okay. So this is the point of what I want to get to today.
In 2010, 2008, 2009, 2010, you went from somebody that was kind of on the margins.
You went to, you did a great job seeing, went to Fox and then became a superstar.
Okay. Change television to make late afternoon an appointment TV.
MSNBC and others drafted off that, end of five.
You warned specifically about Cloward Pivot, about what was happening inside.
If you look at all the different crises you had.
You go back to your show back then.
glenn beck
It's all happening.
steve bannon
And the most important, the hardest one to get to a general audience at 5 o'clock in the afternoon, the debt.
First time quantitative easing.
You were actually teaching people how the New York's Fed trading desk works.
Which guys, the guys at Wall Street told me, and I watched it, this is unbelievable.
And guess what?
17 years later, we're in worse shape.
After all those warnings, I'm not blaming you.
I said so many people have done it just like you're drawn inexorably to your doom.
We're now almost in a point of no return on the balance sheet of the United States.
glenn beck
That's why Donald Trump is saying right now, stay cool.
Stay cool.
It's going to get bumpy.
And I wish I could figure out a way for him to say it or for...
All of us to say it.
So, you know, he didn't have to because I remember I was called into the Oval Office by George Bush one time because I was complaining about the Gulf War and it was going horribly.
And I'm like, what the hell are we doing?
And I get a call.
I get off the air at Fox or at CNN and I get a call and it's like, pick it up.
Mr. Beck, it's the White House.
The president would like to see you in the Oval tomorrow.
And I'm like, oh, crap.
I go there and he sits me down.
I'm in a Zelensky chair.
Okay? And he sits me down and he says, you know, a lot of people think they effing know what it's like to be president of the United States.
They have no effing idea what it's like.
And I thought, this is going to be the longest hour of my life.
And he explained that there are things I cannot say because the entire world is watching.
And I'll never forget because I said to him, I said, Mr. President, that's the president I'd like to see more of.
Right. Not this mail ad, you know.
Right. And he said, I can't.
I get so twisted up in my head because I can't say this.
I can't say this.
I know this person is watching.
I can't shift my eyes on this.
Donald Trump is trying to be as clear as he can be.
steve bannon
He's disintermediated.
He has him right into the oval for the press breeze.
I said, think about it if Bush would run it that way, where every day you're asking questions.
He's disintermediated to mainstream media.
Yes. So you have a constant, almost real time.
glenn beck
So smart.
steve bannon
Because I only got 10 minutes left.
Okay. Hang on.
Hang on.
unidentified
Hang on.
steve bannon
So, in giving the warning and laying out what was going to happen 15 years later, we're now in extremis.
I mean, President Trump is going to have to—these are hard decisions we're going to have to make, and the alternatives are narrowed and narrowed and narrowed.
At the same time, a group of us, you include, are starting to warn about the singularity, which about change of man and about change of the world is— Oh,
unidentified
I know.
glenn beck
Oh, I know, I know.
steve bannon
So, and on that, once you hit that singularity, you can go Amish, but if we're gonna become, the Luddites have to stand up now and say, you agree.
We have to stay up now and say, hey, we can't do, we gotta have, we have to have a sit down on this thing
Of the four guys running artificial intelligence, you have – to have a Korean nail salon here in Washington, D.C., you have more regulation than you have no regulation whatsoever.
And now the pitch is the Chinese Communist Party, because of deep think, may be so ahead of us that the oligarch said, oops, we need a bailout.
We need at least $500 billion.
We need a Marshall Plan.
Maybe you give us the national labs, no problem there, to turn over to these guys, Sandia and Lawrence Livermore.
And they don't need any regulation because the Chinese Communist Party is going to rule it.
So we're in the worst position of the world because we stand up to them.
They say, hey, you guys are turning over world control.
Schmidt just came out this morning and said that.
If you don't give us unfettered money, access to the national labs, everything, we're going to fall in back of the Chinese Communist Party and then it's over.
We're in, as a culture and society and a world.
We have jammed ourselves into the worst—the hardest problems we used to face, which are almost insurmountable, now look like nothing compared to what we've done in technology.
glenn beck
And it's on every front.
I mean, it's—I mean, I know you believe in God.
I believe in God.
It's like, Jesus, when are you coming?
When are you coming?
Because I don't know if we can—I don't know how this all plays out.
I don't know how this all plays out.
I just know that— If we are going to reset, we cannot return factory jobs.
We need to build nuclear power plants.
We need power.
We need energy.
We need our own rare earth minerals.
We need to be mining our own places.
And processing.
Yeah. We need to be able to dig it up, process it, and use it here.
We need to be on the cutting edge.
steve bannon
How are you on the cutting edge of AI without some sort of regulations or without it spinning out of control?
glenn beck
So I talked to...
Make me feel better here.
Well, I can't.
steve bannon
Is the cavalry going to arrive to save us or do we have to save ourselves?
Is anybody coming to save us?
No. Not.
So we have to save ourselves.
Yeah. And with Trump, you got the best shot, at least on a host of these issues.
glenn beck
This is why I keep saying to the audience, because my audience, they're like...
Glenn, you're a free market guy.
And I'm like, I know.
I know.
Do you have a better idea?
Exactly. Because I don't have a better idea.
unidentified
Give me the alternative.
glenn beck
We have one guy.
You blow this chance.
I don't know.
We get another bite at the apple.
We have one guy.
I don't know.
He's earned his place for us to go, okay.
It didn't come as a surprise.
If you walked in the voting booth and went, I think he's joking about tariffs.
You're a moron.
You're a moron.
Okay? You have one shot.
steve bannon
That should not be a surprise to people, right?
glenn beck
No, no.
Out of everything.
Out of everything.
And we have one shot.
And if we blow it, there's no going back.
steve bannon
He has shut down the border, which they told us.
You know, Lankford came with a bill.
It's going to take us a decade.
All these bills.
In 60 days, we now have essentially secured it.
We've got to do much more.
We haven't deported many people.
But he's proven that.
When you talk to him on Wednesday...
Of everything that's going on, what is your recommendation to the president?
As he triages these problems.
glenn beck
Oh, he's not.
You know him.
I'm sure he's like this with you.
I'll see him once, I don't know, every couple of months.
steve bannon
Oh, no, he'll take your, he listens.
He wants to have feedback.
He's a guy, people don't understand this, in meetings, he's not talking all the time.
He's there.
Bill Maher said it the other day, when he goes to Bill Maher, that's actually truthful.
He's sitting there listening to people.
glenn beck
He called me, and we talked about tariffs.
And I'm like...
We're not going to come together on tariffs.
This is before this term.
I'm like, we're not going to come together on tariffs.
And he said, no, tell me why.
And we had a good 30-minute conversation on tariffs where he listened, he asked logical next questions, and then he got to it, and I had even more respect for him at the end.
Because not only did he listen, and I'm a nobody, why should you listen to me on this?
But he listens.
And then at the end, he said, you know, Glenn, you make some good points, but...
I'm going to do it anyway.
I just love tariffs.
unidentified
And I hung up the phone.
steve bannon
The T word.
glenn beck
And I hung up the phone and I went, no politician would ever do that.
Politicians say, you made some really good points.
I'm going to think about that.
And then they do it.
This guy had the balls to tell me to my face.
Yeah, I just love him.
I'm going to do it anyway.
steve bannon
With the convergence of the singularity on top of all the institutional structural problems we have, that Trump, and you see us working through, but the deep states fighting us every day, the Supreme Court bailed on us the other night.
glenn beck
You know, I wonder, maybe you have an answer for this, I wonder why he hasn't taken Congress to the woodshed.
The only chance we have is cut our regulation dramatically.
Pass the RAINS Act, okay?
Pass the RAINS Act.
Pass that.
Cut the regulation at least by half.
Then give...
steve bannon
Unleash the animal spirits.
glenn beck
Yes. Give me 15, 15, 15 in taxes.
15% capital gains, 15% for the average person.
Make it 17, 17, 17. I don't care.
But that incentivizes the entrepreneur.
I can start my own business.
70% of all jobs begin with small businesses.
We've got to incentivize those people.
And that's Congress.
And they're sitting around like they did after they won the Tea Party.
They're going to be responsible for losing this whole thing.
They've got to move.
steve bannon
What do you say about the investigations, the deep state, everything we know about Brennan?
Okay, talk about that.
We've only got a couple minutes.
Our audience, the one thing they get furious about is...
glenn beck
I'm pissed.
steve bannon
And Pam and Cash are as good as you get.
What's the problem?
Your audience is the same way.
They're steamed.
glenn beck
Oh, yeah.
You know, you could do an awful lot of stuff, but until you start putting bad guys in jail, I don't believe you.
I don't believe you.
steve bannon
And you know a sense of urgency.
It's not like we have this forever.
No! I mean, if Hakeem Jeffries wins in 18 months, which is not outside the possibility of going to raise $2 billion, they're going to impeach Trump right away.
glenn beck
We're done.
So where is the DOJ?
I know cash quite well.
I believe cash.
I don't know, Pam.
I'm not throwing dispersions on her.
But something's not right.
Why aren't you unleashing?
Is it the deep state has them by the throat?
What is it?
But it's got to be solved.
You have no...
steve bannon
Is that a message that you think you're...
I don't want to get into your private conversation with the president, but is that something you would highlight?
glenn beck
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
steve bannon
You think there needs to be a sense of urgency about this?
glenn beck
What does any of it mean?
steve bannon
Why is Congress taking so much time off right now?
Traditional two weeks of vacations or two weeks back that considered where they don't have town halls?
glenn beck
I don't know.
I mean, it is...
steve bannon
Because collectively, they're good people.
But as a body...
glenn beck
They're horrible.
steve bannon
They're horrible.
glenn beck
They're absolutely horrible.
Honestly, Steve, I can't tell you.
I am at a loss for DOJ.
And I'm at a loss for Congress.
And I'm at a loss on Donald Trump, man.
Why aren't you using the bully pulpit to go after your own here?
Eat them.
Eat them.
Tell them.
Oh, we're watching you.
The whole country is watching you.
Get to work.
Do these things now.
Have you seen the clock on the wall and the numbers spinning?
steve bannon
We're burning daylight.
glenn beck
Burning daylight.
steve bannon
Okay. We got two minutes.
How does everybody in our audience get to your content?
glenn beck
BlazeTV.com or GlennBeck.com.
steve bannon
GlennBeck.com.
How about the books, the writings, all that?
And Blaze is still putting up great articles.
We have guys on here from Blaze all the time.
glenn beck
You guys are doing it.
Yeah. Unbelievable stuff.
This is pure Gonzo.
steve bannon
You guys are real business.
unidentified
We're just Gonzo.
steve bannon
You've got a studio, you've got people, you're like, we're Gonzo.
But we're doing what we're doing.
We've got to do this more often.
glenn beck
I love that.
Can I say something I said to your daughter when we met in Phoenix?
Because you and I, have we really spent any time together?
No. Yeah.
steve bannon
A little bit back in 2010 with Peter, I showed up to a dinner one night because I was so amazed that you were talking about quantitative easing.
I said, I've got to go see this guy.
And you were into it at the time.
It wasn't phony.
I mean, you had it down and you were explaining to people and they ate it up.
One of the reasons we do so much capital markets on here, I tell people all the time, I say, Glenn Beck showed you if you open up to people about that.
glenn beck
All you have to do is explain it to them.
steve bannon
We're down to a minute.
glenn beck
I just want to say to you.
Out of all the wrongs that have been done, out of all the things, I don't care if you were the Antichrist.
Which I have been on occasion.
What this country did to you...
unidentified
Oh, no.
steve bannon
Going to the president?
unidentified
No, no, no.
steve bannon
It's not.
glenn beck
It's... I know.
It was wrong.
It was wrong.
steve bannon
It's Pelosi and these people.
I tell everybody.
glenn beck
But we lose the meeting.
steve bannon
Where did those people go?
When they steal the election in 2020, if they steal it...
You're going to prison.
I'm going back to prison.
And Donald Trump's going to prison.
I know.
These people are neo-Marxists and they play Smash Mouth.
And we are not doing it.
Thank you so much.
glenn beck
Thank you.
steve bannon
Glenn back here for an entire hour.
How's that?
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
That was on fire.
Good luck on Wednesday here for a couple of days.
You got to come back to D.C. You come back once a quarter, once every six months?
glenn beck
As little as I possibly can.
steve bannon
That's kind of a depressing place, even with President Trump in charge.
Okay, everybody, thank you so much.
We'll see you back here at 5 p.m.
Charlie Kirk follows us, Posobiec after that.
You got Steve Gruber, Eric Bolling.
I'll do the handoff from Bolling at 5 o'clock.
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