April 21, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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People's Pope, from the beginning, embraced a papacy of humility, choosing the name Francis after Francis of Assisi, the 13th century patron saint of the poor. | |
| The day he was elected in 2013, appearing before crowds dressed in a simple white cassock and an iron cross, not the traditional gold. | ||
| He used his pulpit to highlight the plight of the sick, the poor, and the forgotten. | ||
| No surprise from a man who, as cardinal in Argentina, lived in a small apartment, rode the subway, and cooked his own meals. | ||
| He could understand regular people. | ||
| I'm an ordinary person, I'm an ordinary guy, with an extraordinary job. | ||
| And I think that the message was, I am one of you. | ||
| He was born Jorge Mario Bergoglio in Buenos Aires, the eldest of five children of Italian immigrants. | ||
| As a young man holding jobs as a bouncer, a janitor, and studying chemistry before entering the seminary. | ||
| When Pope Benedict retired, Bergoglio was seen as a cardinal whose time had passed, and at 76, too old. | ||
| But he went on to make history as the first pope from Latin America, and the first in nearly 600 years to follow a retirement. | ||
| Francis took over a church... | ||
| Often at odds with the secular world. | ||
| He came into the church at a time in which there was tremendous crisis, both internally and externally, in terms of its reputation. | ||
| And he, in a sense, rebranded the Catholic Church. | ||
| At a time when the church really needed a facelift, he provided it. | ||
| Just months after his election, saying something revolutionary for a Catholic church leader, that the church must welcome the LGBTQ community. | ||
| If a person is gay and seeks God and has goodwill, who am I to judge? | ||
| Francis shaped the church leadership, tilting more towards the developing world with his appointment of 21 new and diverse cardinals in 2022. | ||
| He expanded roles for women in parishes and at the Vatican, but didn't budge on making them priests. | ||
| Considered allowing married priests in remote areas, but ultimately didn't. | ||
| Though he didn't turn away from taking on controversial causes, calling couples who had pets instead of children selfish. | ||
| And as the first pope to address a joint session of Congress... | ||
| challenging the U.S. to open its arms to refugees and abolish the death penalty. | ||
| When failing health led to rumors of retirement, the Pope, who ministered to the poor of the world, said simply, leave a legacy of good, not just goods. | ||
| To capture the imagination of many across the globe very early, a different type of Pope. | ||
| Of course, the first from Latin America, but also a Pope who wanted to live as simply as he could. | ||
| And with obviously the trappings of Vatican City. | ||
| The city around him. | ||
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Yeah, but didn't live in the most prestigious and pompous parts of Vatican City. | |
| Kind of surprised the cardinals around him by choosing more simple areas. | ||
| He never went to the Summer Palace, the very grand Summer Palace just outside Rome in Castel Gandolfo that the Pope had access to. | ||
| He decided it was not needed. | ||
| That was too pompous for him, too much of an expense. | ||
| He was very focused on trying to get the church to cut expenses. | ||
| But on the global stage, look at the very first place that he went to as Pope. | ||
| The island of Lampedusa, off the coast of North Africa, at the height of the migrant crisis, into Europe as people were fleeing Syria, fleeing Africa, coming through Lampedusa, and that was where he chose to go. | ||
| And throughout his papacy, he talked about migration, he talked about migrants, he talked about refugees. | ||
| That was the thing that got him into his first dispute with Donald Trump when he called him unchristian for building walls, not bridges, to keep people out of the United States. | ||
| How much impact did he have? | ||
| He was not a diplomat. | ||
| He was a spiritual figure. | ||
| But it was a theme throughout his papacy to think of the poorest and those most in need. | ||
| Also, his focus on inclusivity, his outreach to marginalized communities. | ||
| Those words, who am I to judge, will echo throughout his legacy. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And I was just going to say, in many... | ||
| On the hard right inside the church were shocked that this pope would actually borrow from Jesus Christ and living that simple life. | ||
| Borrow from Jesus Christ. | ||
| And they were radical words when he said it. | ||
| And it sounded like a shot of a cannon. | ||
| It just stunned everybody when the pope... | ||
| Said, who am I to judge? | ||
| Now, why in the world would he say something that radical? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe it's because that's exactly what Jesus said to the woman at the well when religious leaders were going to stone her to death. | ||
| And Jesus said, as they dropped their rocks after saying, let he who is without sin cast the first stone. | ||
| Jesus turned and said, where are your accusers now? | ||
| I also don't accuse you. | ||
| Go and sin no more. | ||
| And that's the thing. | ||
| Mika, his legacy was remarkable in that Jesus reached out to those who were shunned by religious leaders in society. | ||
| The lepers, the tax collectors, the sinners-like, the woman at the well. | ||
| And with France's conservatives, many conservatives inside the church hated him for being Christ-like in that respect. | ||
| Just as the religious leaders of his day hated Jesus, but Francis was unbowed and being inclusive while following the word of the gospel. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | ||
| It's Monday, 21 April, Year of Our Lord, 2025. | ||
| Obviously a lot going on today. | ||
| We're going to take you from the Vatican to the Pentagon to the White House. | ||
| Big failure in the streets over the weekend of the color revolution. | ||
| Natalie will be here to talk to us about that. | ||
| A lot going on. | ||
| Liz Yor and Poso are going to kick it off with me. | ||
| Also, Supreme Court. | ||
| They're coming for Trump at the courts, and some of the justices on the Supreme Court are now saying that this is unsat, this judicial supremacy. | ||
| So this book, Philip Shanon, I think he pronounced his name, Shanon, wrote the book Cruel and Shocking Act about the Warren Commission, came out on the anniversary of President Kennedy's assassination a couple years ago, | ||
| wrote Jesus Wept about the last seven popes, really about the Vatican Council. | ||
| And this guy's not a, when he says he's not a Catholic, he also absolutely hates the traditional Catholic Church, which is pretty obvious. | ||
| New York Times writer, so surprising. | ||
| But it's quite interesting, and Brother Eric Boling gave me the heads up on this, because he's the first one to get the book, is that the section on the current Pope, or I guess the late Pope, It has a lot to do with War Room and yours truly, | ||
| Stephen K. Bannon, with Liz Yor and Patrick and Ben Harnwell and others. | ||
| We threw down so hard against the Pope with the conservative cardinals a couple of years ago. | ||
| It's a big part of the book. | ||
| And we stand in absolute defiance of this. | ||
| of this pope for what he tried to do, attempted to do, and is doing with his acolytes to the Catholic Church. | ||
| And we wanted to play and make sure he got all the treacly mainstream media because in Italy, Ben Harnwell tells me the media came and watched it. | ||
| It's so bad. | ||
| This guy's almost like a Christ-like figure. | ||
| His question,"Who am I to judge?" Yo, dude, you're the pope. | ||
| Your job's supposed to be judging, I think. | ||
| Jack Posobiec joins us. | ||
| Poso, your thoughts? | ||
| And I'll get Liz here in a second. | ||
| Archbishop Vigano put up his thoughts about a couple hours ago. | ||
| I posted on Getter. | ||
| Getter's totally free. | ||
| Totally free app. | ||
| You can go on the website. | ||
| I don't think you have to download the app. | ||
| But I put up stuff 24-7. | ||
| I put up Vigano's earlier. | ||
| Pretty brutal. | ||
| Jack Posobiec, your take? | ||
| On particularly, there's going to be a funeral, there will be, you know, time of mourning, and then, I don't know, within 20 days, a conclave will be called to select the next pope. | ||
| Your thoughts about all this, sir? | ||
| Well, Steve, look here, we've had it. | ||
| The Camerlengo, the Chamberlain of the Church, has confirmed the pope's death. | ||
| Right now, what's going to be happening soon, they'll have the preparation of the body for the procession. | ||
| They're going to have the nine days of mourning, during which time... | ||
| All church governance within the Vatican will be paused. | ||
| The fisherman's ring will be deconstructed and destroyed. | ||
| And so the destruction of the fisherman's ring, that is the official ring. | ||
| It signs the papal bulls. | ||
| It signs the encyclicals. | ||
| It seals them. | ||
| It is used to seal them. | ||
| And each one is used for each specific pope. | ||
| So this, of course, prevents its misuse. | ||
| It would symbolize the end of the pope's authority as this pope. | ||
| So that's what this means. | ||
| Pope Francis' authority has ended. | ||
| Sede vacante, sede vacante, sede vacante. | ||
| The seat is vacant. | ||
| The seat of St. Peter is now vacant. | ||
| And so a new pope must be chosen. | ||
| And Steve, look, what we saw yesterday, this is the context that I want to put it in for everyone. | ||
| What we saw yesterday on Easter, and I was taking reports, I was doing reporting even on Easter Sunday, that... | ||
| Steve, our church, spilling out the doors. | ||
| We had cars parked up and down the streets for miles. | ||
| We had people kneeling in the aisles, kneeling everywhere, in the halls of the church itself. | ||
| And I was taking reports from all across the country that this Easter was one of the biggest Easters of our lifetimes. | ||
| And why is that? | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| because we are experiencing a traditional awakening within the Western Church right now. | ||
| And this came as a time where our Easter actually lined up on the Paschal calendar for once with our Eastern Orthodox brothers and sisters like my wife, Tanya Tay. | ||
| So what we need now is not a pope. | ||
| It is the traditional rights of the church that see Gen Z flocking in, that see Gen Z becoming more religious than even millennials, potentially even more religious than baby boomers, that we're seeing in terms of church attendance. | ||
| That is what's bringing people back because this is a beacon and a lighthouse in a sea of rampant secular excesses. | ||
| Don't even get me scared. | ||
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I totally disagree with you. | |
| No, no, no, you don't. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| On what? | ||
| We need a pope who understands which way the wind is blowing. | ||
| Because all it's going to be is controlled office. | ||
| Steve, don't tell me you want a modernist now. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| I'm saying if you get some... | ||
| If you get what they're going to... | ||
| The best case for us, they're going to put up some... | ||
| Nice, soft guy is going to pat you on the head and say, oh, we want the conservatives, the traditional Catholics, the Latin Mass Catholics. | ||
| Remember, the Latin Mass Catholics, my parents' parish, which was a tiny parish started back in the 70s for Latin Mass, is what the FBI focused on to write their report that traditional Catholics were a hotbed of domestic terrorism. | ||
| The Vatican deep state is the mother of all deep states, the curia around that. | ||
| You get some guy that's on the surface is conservative, quote-unquote, right? | ||
| Or even moderate, to kind of pat us on the head. | ||
| The movement of conservative Catholics, traditional Catholics, even young people going to the Orthodox side of Catholicism, is one of the great developments in the 21st century. | ||
| You don't want to take the sting out of that because what they're going to try to do is do some commissions, committees, put a couple of controlled opposition on there and take the sting out of this movement. | ||
| This movement, Jack Posobiec, is one of the most powerful movements in the modern world. | ||
| And given what's happening with artificial intelligence and the singularity. | ||
| Right now. | ||
| Do what, sir? | ||
| Do what? | ||
| I'm saying use that leverage right now while the conclave has yet to even be seated. | ||
| Make your voice heard as traditionals. | ||
| We definitely do that. | ||
| We might even have to take War Room to Rome. | ||
| What do you say? | ||
| Should we go to St. Peter's Square? | ||
| We're coming live from the Vatican. | ||
| We're coming live from the Vatican here in a moment. | ||
| I think I'm going to Shanghai time Tom Williams and get the whole thing. | ||
| Send Poso over there. | ||
| There wasn't so much here in a meltdown. | ||
| I'd go and hang on, Jack, because I got to talk. | ||
| Liz, you're Harnwell from Vatican. | ||
| But there's also the deep states coming after President Trump at the Supreme Court. | ||
| And here's how they're doing it. | ||
| They leaked an intelligence report, a national intelligence estimate that tries to cut the legs out from President Trump, invoking the Alien Enemies Act of 1798. | ||
| We're going to break all that down. | ||
| So much going on, from the Pentagon, to the White House, to the State Department, to the National Security Council. | ||
| Economically, in the embargo we have with the Chinese Communist Party, oil still pouring out of the Straits of Hormuz, going from the Persians, cha-ching, right to the Chinese. | ||
| Curious minds are asking, what? | ||
| Okay, Jack Posobiec, Liz Shure, Ben Harnwell, all next in the War Room. | ||
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I got American faith in America's heart. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | ||
| Dollars down 1% today. | ||
| I think it's lost 11% of its purchasing power since January. | ||
| 1% down today. | ||
| Gold, wait for it, 3434. | ||
| We had Philip Patrick on here Saturday. | ||
| We talked about the converging factors. | ||
| It's not the price of gold. | ||
| It's the process of how it got there. | ||
| That's what we're trying to teach you. | ||
| Take care of your phone now. | ||
| This is very simple. | ||
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| It is going to be quite turbulent, ladies and gentlemen, as you can already see. | ||
| So make sure you understand how that impacts. | ||
| Precious metals and how it impacts gold as a hedge. | ||
| Right now, it's not actually as a hedge. | ||
| It's actually as an on-fire-like tech stock. | ||
| Find out why. | ||
| We're trying to get Philip on later today, Artists Afternoon. | ||
| He's jammed over on the desk of Birch Gold. | ||
| Jack Posobiec, closing comments. | ||
| Look, I'm not trying to jump you. | ||
| What I'm trying to say is that I understand. | ||
| We're going to have a show of force. | ||
| A show of force now. | ||
| To make sure that the Conclave and all the Curia and the Deep State and the Vatican understand exactly what they're doing. | ||
| This book, Jesus Wept, does a pretty good job of years ago with the great Liz Yor and Ben Harnwell and others. | ||
| But the reality is they're going to choose another. | ||
| And hey, is the schism the worst thing in the world? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| If you're on the side of the righteous, it's not. | ||
| And we're on the side of the righteous here. | ||
| We absolutely are doing the right thing. | ||
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Look, here's what I think. | |
| I think traditional Catholics, if you have the means, if you have the ability, if you're in Europe, if you're not, hop a flight to Rome right now, go into St. Peter's Square and start taking... | ||
| Be out there praying the rosary loudly. | ||
| Go up, get the crucifixes, get everything. | ||
| Pray in Latin so that every single member of the Curia, that when they walk through those doors of the Sistine Chapel and seal them behind you, can hear you in Latin for every single minute of the conclave. | ||
| And look, and look, I'm not, you're right, Steve, you're right. | ||
| I'm not going as hard as I could. | ||
| I'm not saying that we need a Pope. | ||
| Bannon right now. | ||
| Alright, alright. | ||
| I know that's what you're holding out for. | ||
| I know that's what you're holding out for, Steve. | ||
| Because remember, any Catholic, it can be any Catholic. | ||
| So I'm not going for a Pope Bannon. | ||
| Remember, they said under 80, and I checked. | ||
| I checked for a couple more years. | ||
| For a couple more years, Steve is still eligible. | ||
| But, but, it's got to be a good Catholic. | ||
| So, you know, we've got some issues. | ||
| We've got to have a long penance before Steve Bannon is eligible. | ||
| And we'll get you a, you know, we'll get you a You know, we'll get you an indulgence on the way in. | ||
| Yeah, there's a bunch of them. | ||
| Jack, we'll get your mind right. | ||
| Liz is going to have to do further training for Posobiec after hours here, after the show. | ||
| Jack, real quickly. | ||
| Folks, understand the deep state. | ||
| You got Pete Hexitz. | ||
| We're going to get about Pete. | ||
| They're coming after Pete hard. | ||
| Does this sound new? | ||
| They're coming after Pete every day. | ||
| Coming after Pete Hexitz hard. | ||
| They're trying to get Pete Hexitz out. | ||
| They're coming after the State Department. | ||
| Marco. Is about to do a big reorg, and they leaked a phony document that said he's about to eliminate the State Department, which I think a lot of us would say, you know, why didn't we think of that before? | ||
| Why has this not been done on day one? | ||
| So they're coming after Marco, they're coming after the whole team over State Department, trying to downsize it. | ||
| But in this situation with the deportations, where the Democrats have taken the side of the illegal alien invaders and the terrorists and the murderers and the rapists, The Supreme Court, in the dark of night, 1 a.m. on Saturday morning, | ||
| in the dark of night, issued a basically shut President Trump down temporarily. | ||
| Alito was so upset about it. | ||
| It was Alito and Thomas. | ||
| That's surprising. | ||
| Justice Thomas, the best. | ||
| He and Alito. | ||
| Alito are the brains of the operation. | ||
| Alito came out with his opinion. | ||
| He's so outraged about this, about judicial supremacy. | ||
| However, this is all predicated... | ||
| On the using the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 drawn up during Adam's presidency, John Adam's presidency, about the coming war with France. | ||
| Jack, they were undercut in the middle of the night last night with a national intelligence estimate coming out of DNI that basically says, essentially says, the whole predicate. | ||
| What President Trump's doing to invoke the Alien Enemies Act is dead wrong. | ||
| That's the deep state leak. | ||
| That was not put up by the White House. | ||
| That was leaked by the deep state. | ||
| Can you tell the audience what that is, how important it is, and how in the hell did this thing so twisted come out, sir? | ||
| Steve, what you're seeing here is an attempt by the National Intelligence Council and the holdovers and the snakes. | ||
| There are too many holdovers and too many snakes within the intelligence community that are still there, that are still on board. | ||
| There's also not enough people that share the president's vision, the vision of the people of this country that were elected, that put President Trump in office. | ||
| Seven out of seven swing states, the Electoral College, the popular vote, the House, the Senate. | ||
| And now you've got these people up there working to undercut the President of the United States. | ||
| Look, this was a press release. | ||
| It was essentially a brief to the Supreme Court saying, hey, by the way, if you want to use this to overturn the Alien Enemies Act, please do. | ||
| And look, that's exactly what Amy Coney Barrett is going to do next. | ||
| They're going to take this report, they're going to put that in on their final briefing, and they will use this not just to, Steve, undercut the use of the alien. | ||
| Mark my words. | ||
| Their goal is to actually, after hundreds of years, declare it unconstitutional so that it can't be used. | ||
| And all of this is happening because not enough people were removed from these positions of power. | ||
| So now you've got the response of the deep state, which we always said was coming. | ||
| We talked about it last week, how it started over at the Pentagon, how they're rolling the Patriots out. | ||
| Now they're going after Pete Hegseth. | ||
| Why? Because they wanted the strikes on Iran. | ||
| The strikes on Iran, they put the stop on that. | ||
| He said President Trump came in. | ||
| Look, they said no new wars. | ||
| They said no more World War III. | ||
| We said we're not going to do it. | ||
| We're going to negotiate. | ||
| Wyckoff, by the way, also in Rome, by the way, along where the Pope just passed away. | ||
| And so they're holding the meetings right there. | ||
| What do you see on the back end? | ||
| Oh, now we're going after Pete Hegset. | ||
| Look, look. | ||
| The White House is fighting on all fronts, and people need to understand that. | ||
| The administration is fighting on all fronts. | ||
| But there are too many holdovers still in these councils, these national securities, these national intelligence councils. | ||
| They need to go. | ||
| Do not play footsies with these people. | ||
| They will walk right up to you and smile on your face and shake your hand while they stab you in the back with the other one. | ||
| You get this whole thing, the Pentagon. | ||
| Derek Harvey, the great Derek Harvey, a contributor to War Room, people know and love him over the years, is now going into, it's public now, because they leaked it. | ||
| He went over for the beginning of his onboarding on Friday. | ||
| Lead story on CBS News, Jennifer Jacobs, their top reporter for the White House. | ||
| White House correspondent, lead reporter for CBS News. | ||
| Story. MAGA-oriented Derek Harvey arrives at White House for National Security Council. | ||
| Intelligence job, you know, and then in, like, paragraph four, he will bring more MAGA-type, more President Trump, hardcore America-firsters over. | ||
| Leaked. Hard leak from the NSC. | ||
| That's the only person. | ||
| This thing was so quiet, only a handful of people knew about it. | ||
| A select handful. | ||
| NSC. Totally leaked it to try to take out Harvey, have a bunch of bad stories over the weekend. | ||
| And in fact, if the Pete Hexeth situation in the Pentagon hadn't overwhelmed it and the release of the phony Politico's lead story on Easter Sunday morning is the executive order, which was not accurate, saying that, you know, Marco's taking out two-thirds of the State Department. | ||
| Which I kind of love. | ||
| Great way to start Easter, right? | ||
| It turns out he is doing a major restructuring, but it's not going to be on that EO. | ||
| My point is the deep state is full on. | ||
| Here's the reason, Jack, because we're not doing anything over Justice Department. | ||
| I don't see investigations. | ||
| I don't see indictments. | ||
| I'm telling you, I'm hearing, and I want to give a warning. | ||
| If the guys around Hex, if there's indictments or investigations going on, and there's no indictments, there's no release of the Epstein files, and there's no investigations of Brennan and the 51, and you're not spending your time on that, but somehow gets diverted over this... | ||
| It is going to be a firestorm from the MAGA base. | ||
| I think people are fed up with it. | ||
| I think Tom Fenton gives a lot of the frustration that in the first hundred days we've seen nothing out of that crowd. | ||
| Zero. With all the hard work that went in to get him there, you know, we've seen nothing. | ||
| And now they're talking about Jack, some investigation of the guys around Hexeth. | ||
| And I'm not saying there shouldn't be something over there. | ||
| Maybe it is. | ||
| But that's a Pete Hexeth call. | ||
| Right? And it shouldn't be DOJ or anybody like that jumping in there because you haven't done your primary job, which is to take down the deep state. | ||
| People, we are burning daylight. | ||
| These people are playing smash mouth. | ||
| They're playing hardball. | ||
| And the deep state is winning right now. | ||
| Jack, am I wrong to say with everything President Trump's doing and the reorientation? | ||
| He's one man. | ||
| He's got everything on his shoulders. | ||
| He needs some support. | ||
| He needs some help. | ||
| He needs some assistance. | ||
| It's incumbent upon us to do it. | ||
| But people got to get in there and put their shoulders to the wheel. | ||
| Poso, you got a minute, sir. | ||
| No, you got to bounce. | ||
| Steve, this is what they do. | ||
| Right. Rather than the full-on Russiagate operation, what is the operation now for the nullification project? | ||
| The operation is the slow walk and the slow roll. | ||
| We're going to hold his hand. | ||
| We're going to slow everything down in the courts. | ||
| Slow down the agenda. | ||
| Just walk it all down. | ||
| Okay, you got the first 40 days. | ||
| First 100 days will come up here at the end of the month. | ||
| And they just slow down everything. | ||
| No more Trump speed. | ||
| And then people start asking, why isn't anything happening? | ||
| Why isn't anything happening? | ||
| Then you enter the Democrats. | ||
| You get them to move sufficiently, you know, enough to the populist middle or at least the populist left. | ||
| You get them up on economic issues. | ||
| Get them to leave identity politics behind for a sense. | ||
| And by the way, if they win back the House, don't think for a second that Adam Schiff and Jeffries and all these people and Pelosi don't have a couple, three articles of impeachment already sitting on the shelf. | ||
| Then the subpoenas start. | ||
| Then the investigations start. | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| You've got a year and a half left. | ||
| It's so obvious what has to happen. | ||
| Okay, Jack, I know you've got a lot to do today. | ||
| You're going to pre-record the show. | ||
| You've got other things you're doing over the White House. | ||
| Just take your diary out, Jack, and your number two pencil, and write down, Liz, yours, catechism in a training session on Vatican Curia Deep State sometime this evening and tomorrow. | ||
| I've already got my vote in. | ||
| I've already got my vote in the conclave. | ||
| I'm going to hammer it to the doors of the Sistine Chapel. | ||
| Pope Bannon! | ||
| Pope Bannon I. Let's go, folks. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| No, Cardinal Sarah. | ||
| See? He doesn't want it. | ||
| He doesn't want it. | ||
| That's how you know he's the man for the job. | ||
| You need a good Catholic. | ||
| I'm failed in Catholicism. | ||
| The unlikeliest of vessels. | ||
| The Lord uses the unlikeliest of vessels. | ||
| We gotta bounce. | ||
| Liz Yor, Ben Harnwell from the Vatican next. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Van. | |
| Um... | ||
| Okay, there's a lot going on. | ||
| This is Easter Monday, the 21st of April, year of early 2025. | ||
| The traditional Easter egg roll is taking place, and Real America's Voice is the pool camera. | ||
| That's a hat tip to Rob Sigg and Parker Sigg. | ||
| The great way the channel's coming together, we're the home of MAGA, and it normally takes years or decades to become a pool camera with being one of the mainstream media. | ||
| It's the pool camera day. | ||
| On the socials... | ||
| Of Real America's Voice on Getter and on particularly Twitter, right? | ||
| You can pick it up and they're going to have all the activities of the egg roll. | ||
| We would normally, and we're thinking about doing a little bit about that this morning, but there's just so much going on that is this full-on war against President Trump. | ||
| And remember, the deep state is an international, because it's interlocking. | ||
| From the City of London. | ||
| When I say the City of London, I'm not talking about London as a city. | ||
| The City of London is shorthand for their Wall Street. | ||
| The Wall Street of Europe and used to be the New York. | ||
| It used to be the global head of the global capital markets. | ||
| And still, the way those brothers roll, they still got a lot of stroke. | ||
| Don't think about it because their economy is upside down and they're tiny. | ||
| They get a lot of stroke throughout the world. | ||
| MI6, the whole deal. | ||
| They run a whole bunch of things behind the scenes. | ||
| Or if not run it, strong influence. | ||
| Okay? Liz, you're... | ||
| So on the intelligence side, they are trying to... | ||
| Because here's what they understand. | ||
| And Natalie will be here in a little while. | ||
| This whole color revolution, get to the streets and get out in the streets and take to the streets. | ||
| They played this thing up over the weekend, which was the 50-51. | ||
| That was 50 states, 50 states, 50 events, one common community or something. | ||
| Some kind of bizarro saying that they wanted to unite your people. | ||
| And they were talking about $10 million. | ||
| I really want to thank... | ||
| And give a hat tip to Citizen Kane. | ||
| Over the weekend, he was magnificent once again. | ||
| This guy does not sleep. | ||
| Amazing. The stack over at Citizen's Free Press. | ||
| He's the Drudge of the right. | ||
| And I will say this. | ||
| He's as good as Drudge is now. | ||
| Now, Citizen Kane is as good as Drudge was at the top of Drudge's game when Andrew Breitbart... | ||
| And Drudge ran the site 12 on, 12 off. | ||
| Well, there ain't no 12 off for Kane. | ||
| And his framing this weekend of all these major stories was just nothing short of magnificent. | ||
| He had the best headline. | ||
| Because sometimes he does some editorial in one of those polls. | ||
| He said, hey, they were expecting $10 million. | ||
| They got $10,000. | ||
| Now, I think it might be a little more than $10,000. | ||
| But it wasn't a lot more. | ||
| It was an epic flop. | ||
| Flop here in D.C. too. | ||
| So, the color revolution. | ||
| That not winning. | ||
| Here's where they're winning. | ||
| To delay is to deny. | ||
| And the closer they get to the midterms, they think they're going to get these gutless Republicans to back off any of the push of President Trump beyond the first hundred days, right? | ||
| So in the courts, in the Supreme Court, there's a good old Donny Burke there with Alito. | ||
| And Thomas, but particularly he was thrown down hard. | ||
| This thing came out in the middle of the night, basically saying it's unsatisfactory. | ||
| The deep state came in and gave the forces against President Trump a big, you know, a huge predicate on the leak of this national intelligence estimate. | ||
| Which was, it's all about how you ask the questions. | ||
| I mean, this thing's like a draft, but it's got the headline number they can get. | ||
| That's where they're pushing out to say there's no justification, intelligence-wise, for President Trump to do this. | ||
| Liz, I go to you. | ||
| Liz, the Curia, the deep state of the Vatican, which has been at work nonstop since this Bergoglio was there. | ||
| Vigano put out a thing I put up. | ||
| He's not particularly sad on this day. | ||
| Your thoughts, man, for traditional Catholics? | ||
| No, Viganò said that the subversives that have been put in in the deep church are active and going to make every effort to continue the agenda of Francis. | ||
| And while I love the idea of Pope Bannon, I think, Steve, you're better off in Paul than you are in white. | ||
| First off, you have to be a good Catholic. | ||
| I'm not saying Burglare Woods. | ||
| You've got to be a good Catholic. | ||
| I'm so far from that, man. | ||
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That's why we have to be a good Catholic. | |
| I was there, but ever since then, it's been downhill, so I'm the guy in the last row. | ||
| But let's go to Jack's point. | ||
| You can't, and I understand, we're going to have a show of force. | ||
| We're trying to talk Liz into going there. | ||
| We're going to name some. | ||
| We're going to have a show of force here in the war room. | ||
| We already got Harnwell there. | ||
| In fact, he's going to be up in a moment. | ||
| Hopefully get Tom Williams over at Breitbart to help us out. | ||
| Others will bring some from the United States. | ||
| We should have a show of force. | ||
| But my point to Jack is, They're not going to put a traditionalist in that spot. | ||
| Bergoglio put in 80% of the College of Cardinals are his appointees. | ||
| Am I incorrect in that number, ma'am? | ||
| You're not incorrect, but Steve, where's your fight? | ||
| I mean, this is about deadlocking the conclave. | ||
| Oh, no, I got that. | ||
| No, I'm 100% down. | ||
| Okay, don't misread. | ||
| I want to fight. | ||
| I want to send people. | ||
| I want to show a force. | ||
| Flood the zone. | ||
| We're going to do that. | ||
| And bring up all the elements. | ||
| However, my point to him was to take some compromise, moderate... | ||
| Is a schism the worst thing in the world, ma'am, now? | ||
| Because the traditional Catholics are on a roll. | ||
| And they're going to be persecuted, and they're going to go underground like the great Catholics in China did, thanks to Francis. | ||
| And look, my thought is, this is a turning-the-tables-over-in-the-temple moment. | ||
| This is the man who is number one in the running, Parolin, the Secretary of State, the one who met J.D. Banch. | ||
| He is the architect of the China agreement that has been renewed three times, the one that has destroyed not only the Catholic Church in... | ||
| China, but every Christian church, every faith-based organization in the country. | ||
| This is a time to fight. | ||
| And now we have the young people in France who by the tens of thousands are becoming traditional Catholics this past weekend. | ||
| I mean, Steve, you're right. | ||
| We are in the Ides of March. | ||
| We are on the brink of World War III. | ||
| And whichever battlefront you choose to fight. | ||
| Choose it and fight. | ||
| I mean, today, I mean, Klaus Schwab stepped down today from the World Economic Forum. | ||
| McCarrick, who's been the architect of the deep church, died two weeks ago. | ||
| And now this? | ||
| I mean, it is time that we need to declare our voice. | ||
| I mean, personally, I think before the conclave even cast a vote, Every single cardinal in the church should declare the China agreement null and void and expose it to the world and make a formal apology to the Christians and Catholics in China. | ||
| Enough of this nonsense. | ||
| We've been all pussyfooting around, you know, trying to be, you know, nice little polite Catholics. | ||
| It is time to fight the church and to fight for. | ||
| Those values that MAGA has fought tooth and nail for. | ||
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This is a MAGA moment in the church. | |
| Liz, you say it's a MAGA moment. | ||
| It's a moment to fight. | ||
| Traditional Catholicism is on the rise, right? | ||
| Traditional Catholicism. | ||
| This is why the FBI did the report. | ||
| Walk me through, why do you think this is our moment? | ||
| Well, because the young people are stepping forward. | ||
| They have, in the secular culture, Died for the truth. | ||
| And now they're coming to the Catholic Church because they know the traditional Catholic Church is where the truth lies. | ||
| And so even despite this Pope, who's been a disaster, who has destroyed the traditional church, who has... | ||
| Closed it down, shuttered it, arrested, you know, and thrown into the brig any traditional person who wants to celebrate the faith. | ||
| Now we have our moment because the young people are stepping up in all places of Europe. | ||
| And we've been waiting for this. | ||
| But, you know, Vigeno says, look. | ||
| They're trying to deconstruction the Catholic Church. | ||
| And what they're going to do is they're going to replace it with this New World Order Church. | ||
| That's why he keeps on calling it the Synodal Church. | ||
| They have excised Catholicism from the Catholic Church. | ||
| That's what Bergoglio and his minions have done. | ||
| And now is the time for all Catholics who love the Church, who have been battling Bergoglio. | ||
| And you know, is there a man among the Catholic cardinals? | ||
| Is there a man who will step up and really take the horn and fight for truth? | ||
| I think we're gonna see. | ||
| But the best thing we can hope for at this point is let's throw the conclave up for grabs. | ||
| Let's demand that every single file of every predator that has been protected and elevated by Francis is exposed. | ||
| Let's expose every Freemason who is a cardinal. | ||
| Let's expose the entire word for word in three iterations of the China agreement. | ||
| Let's expose that to the world. | ||
| I mean, this is the time for, you know, the Catholics are supposed to have a voice, right? | ||
| Isn't that what Francis says? | ||
| You know, we're now supposed to be the Synodal Church? | ||
| Well, get your voice and start fighting. | ||
| Because, you know, this is what the deep state is afraid of. | ||
| They've had the moral voice of Francis for the last 12 years, Steve. | ||
| And they have used it in climate change, in migration, in the transgender, in abortion. | ||
| He has served as their moral voice. | ||
| Well, no more. | ||
| He's now going to be judged by God, despite not believing that, you know, there's a hell. | ||
| Francis, you know, thinks there's no hell. | ||
| It is time now to, I mean, a doge moment for the church? | ||
| Yes. Open up the files. | ||
| It is time to get rid of the filth. | ||
| And by the way, that Vatican Bank, which was supposed to be examined by internal and external auditors and never was because France has closed it down. | ||
| Let's open up the Vatican Bank and let's see the $2 billion a year grant from the Chinese Communist Party to the Holy see. | ||
| I mean, enough is enough. | ||
| If we're not going to fight this battle, then we ought to just submit to the deep state. | ||
| I'm 100% down, and we've got to expose Parolin. | ||
| I mean, Parolin is the top candidate right now. | ||
| I mean, he's the guy that cut the deal with the Chinese. | ||
| He's the worst of the worst in the henchmen, and also McCarrick's guy. | ||
| We've got to open up all the files of McCarrick and all these guys. | ||
| They have to be open up and people and people get to say, hey, here's who here's who whoever was responsible. | ||
| You finally got to open up and say, hey, let the chips fall they may be right because there's going to be some questions going back into John Paul. | ||
| Yes, ma'am. | ||
| And the ultimate question? | ||
| The ultimate question for our country is, did McCarrick and the Obama and Biden administration play a role in the color revolution of the Catholic Church? | ||
| That is a defining question. | ||
| If so, every single act, word, document that was produced by Pope Francis is null and void. | ||
| Was there a color revolution in the Catholic Church coming out of the administration of Obama and Biden? | ||
| Hang on one second. | ||
| We're getting to more of that. | ||
| In fact, our color revolution expert, Natalie G. Wynn, is going to join us about the epic flop that took place over the weekend as the left took to the streets to protest President Trump over the weekend, which is an epic fail. | ||
| I want to thank Cain for putting it up there and framing it so perfectly. | ||
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| The BRICS nation is going to go to Rio on July 6th. | ||
| They're going to try to do a reset. | ||
| They're going to come up with an alternative to the U.S. dollar. | ||
| They're working on it. | ||
| Chinese Communist Party is in back with the de-dollarization of the world's currency. | ||
| Make sure that you are ahead of this. | ||
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| Gold passes $3,400. | ||
| Gold's on fire. | ||
| It's not about the price. | ||
| It's about the process. | ||
| You have to understand the process of what's happening. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Natalie Winters, Liz Yor, Ben Harnwell, all next in the War Room. | ||
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| By the way, 60 Minutes had an update on artificial general intelligence. | ||
| Shouldn't make you feel better, although they didn't ask one tough question. | ||
| So surprised. | ||
| Try to break that down this afternoon with Joe Allen and others. | ||
| Although... We're pretty slammed with what's going on. | ||
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| Ben Harnwell, let's go to the... | ||
| Liz George is going to come back in a moment. | ||
| Philip Patrick is going to be at the top of the hour. | ||
| We're going to get Natalie G. Winters up in a moment. | ||
| But I want to go to the Vatican in Ben Harnwell. | ||
| Ben, I notice on the live feed from the Vatican, it's not packed. | ||
| You know, Morning Joe and NBC and CNN and all the Italian media told me there was going to be a million people in St. Peter's Square. | ||
| You know, weeping, gnashing teeth, crying for this beloved Pope. | ||
| I don't see that happening, sir. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| Steve, good morning to you on this day of celebration. | ||
| Well, look, I did do a bit of footage, which I sent you to Denver. | ||
| I wonder if that'd be so kind if it's come through just to play as I'm talking. | ||
| What you'll see there, Steve, is basically a normal weekday here in St. Peter's Piazza in a beautiful April day. | ||
| You have the tourists milling around. | ||
| And people laughing, joking. | ||
| What I really wanted to home in on, because it's great copy, is a nuns ceiling, kneeling, praying, tears, praying the rosary in front of the apostolic palace just over my shoulder there where the great critic lived out in his 12 years. | ||
| There's no tears. | ||
| There were no nuns crying. | ||
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People just milling around as if it's just a normal Monday. | |
| That is the... | ||
| And this is Rome. | ||
| This is the Vatican, right? | ||
| This is the affection that we can see that people had for this guy, that some people are terminating, already calling the Herod the Great of the 21st century. | ||
| I noticed the BBC quoted Sim Cardinal saying that he was Pope Francis. | ||
| was an authentic disciple of Jesus Christ. | ||
| Well, of course, under a certain prospect he was, but the disciple is Judas Iscariot. | ||
| It'll take a hundred years, Steve, a hundred years to undo the damage that this man has done in just a little over a decade. | ||
| Wrecked the faith, wrecked vocations, wrecked the credibility of the teaching office of the Catholic Church in the public square. | ||
| And, of course, within, I think, 15 to 20 days, those are the limits from today. | ||
| There will be a new pope elected or possibly even a new anti-pope elected. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| Whoa, whoa, whoa. | ||
| Before we get into the process and before we get into all of that, I want to go back, and I'm going to hit Liz with this for a second, because I'm sure some people are, like, in shock. | ||
| Well, one of the great evangelistic attributes for the Catholic Church, | ||
| especially when we're talking to non-Catholics, to our separated brethren... | ||
| A key point of its credibility is the fact that its teaching has never changed in 2,000 years. | ||
| Now, putting aside for one moment the Second Vatican Council, which massively changed the Catholic Church from top to bottom, this papacy specifically who then went and touched the third rail of Catholic teaching on some of the key issues, | ||
| like divorce and remarriage. | ||
| You don't have to know anything about the Catholic Church for 2,000 years to know that it was against divorce and remarriage. | ||
| Under this so-called papacy of the last 12 years, that's no longer an issue. | ||
| Under Pope Francis, he reopened the possibility for the divorced and the remarried to receive communion. | ||
| Something so scandalous that our Lord, John the Baptist, was beheaded. | ||
| He was very witness to the indissolubility of marriage. | ||
| But then, of course, you have Takamama, just down there, 100 yards down there on the left, Steve, where so-called Pope Francis had directed these idols to a South American goddess, | ||
| a pagan goddess, in a church, in a Catholic church. | ||
| One of our great friends, Steve, went in there, took these idols and threw them into the Tiber quite appropriately. | ||
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These things, the unchanging aspect. | |
| Hang on. | ||
| Okay, because some of the audience may not be familiar with some things you're talking about. | ||
| Talk about, we've got a minute or so. | ||
| Talk about a couple of years ago, he had these essentially pagans from South America, I think around the Amazon, come and do a whole festival for a couple of days that was just flat out, you know, pre-Columbian paganism. | ||
| When Latin America and Central America did such a tremendous job of vocations and conversions down there. | ||
| Give me a minute on that, how outrageous it was. | ||
| It took, I think, a German or a Dutch young person. | ||
| This is why the young people are leading in the church to get back traditional values. | ||
| He went in and actually took one of the pagan idols that I think was on the property of the Vatican where the ceremony had taken place. | ||
| Steve, look, the scandalous aspect of the whole Pachamama situation isn't so much the fact that idols to false gods were erected in a consecrated Catholic Church. | ||
| You know what the real scandalous point about that is? | ||
| It's that the pagans have more serious devotion to their false gods. | ||
| And the Catholic hierarchy has towards the true living God. | ||
| That is the most standard thing about this aspect. | ||
| Everyone on the face of the planet, over thousands of years of human existence, people have had different religious beliefs, and we've been able to get by it largely. | ||
| That's the fact that there are other false religions. | ||
| And I open a bracket on that point. | ||
| One of the other heretical aspects of Pope Francis is that he said that God wills the false religions. | ||
| I'll come back to that after the break. | ||
| But the real scandalous point here is that the Catholic Church showed the whole world it had less faith in the Catholic Church. | ||
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Yeah. Hang on for a second, Ben. | |
| We're going to reset here in the second hour. | ||
| Ben Harnwell's at St. Peter's Square in Vatican City. | ||
| Liz Yor joins us. | ||
| Natalie G. Winters is going to break down what happened over the weekend on the revolt against President Trump in the streets. | ||
| Epic flop. | ||
| Philip Patrick's going to join us because gold's on fire. | ||
| Blows through $3,400. | ||
| We're talking about Pete Hexas in the Pentagon. | ||
| All of it this morning. | ||
| Only in the War Room. | ||
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