April 4, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| I've been to some crazy places before, but this has to be up there as one of the craziest. | ||
| This is a cemetery. | ||
| These are all mausoleums dedicated to cartel bosses in Kuyukan, Sinaloa. | ||
| These aren't houses. | ||
| These are mausoleums. | ||
| Tombs. Like the tombs of Egypt for the pharaohs. | ||
| Except these hold the narco kingpins. | ||
| And each one built larger to one-up their competitors. | ||
| It truly is unbelievable. | ||
| The amount of money that the cartel makes. | ||
| They have so much money they don't even know what to do with it. | ||
| To the point where they build million-dollar mansions to be buried in. | ||
| Monuments to some of the most evil people that have ever walked the earth. | ||
| Here in Sinaloa, Mexico. | ||
| All propped up by a government that's as corrupt as they are. | ||
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All propped up by a government that's as as they are. | |
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved! | ||
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| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
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| The great Julie Kelly is with me. | ||
| So honored to have you in the War Room. | ||
| Julie, you've been over at federal court. | ||
| We're going to get to that in a moment. | ||
| Julie Kelly is shocked by what's going on in the federal court, and she knows it better than anybody. | ||
| Julie Kelly was also with us today. | ||
| As kind of a team over at the Justice Department and Tim Miller, our favorite Tim Miller from the Bulwark on MSNBC. | ||
| They had a meltdown. | ||
| We're gonna get to all that, but we got to go to Juarez, one of my favorite towns. | ||
| We got Ben Burquam and Oscar Blue Ramirez. | ||
| Sicario was filmed there. | ||
| I think it's one of the greatest films ever made. | ||
| We built the wall right there and the reason we built it, Oscar and Ben Berkram, you guys know because you were with us, is that going up that mountain from the Rio Grande River, up that one-mile mountain, was one of the most dangerous stretches on the American border. | ||
| That's where the cartels trafficked those young women and girls and when you would go up that hill, on that plateau, where we built the wall to jam into the mountain, it would make you sick. | ||
| To see what was left behind and know the human tragedy that was caused. | ||
| While you guys are chasing the cartel, getting ready for the kinetic part of this war, what brings you to Juarez, which used to be a great little border town, and now, as anybody who's seen the movie Sicario knows, is filled with bad hombres. | ||
| Ben Berkwam, Oscar Blue Ramirez. | ||
| Guys. Close. | ||
| Yeah, Steve, it's to show you the truth. | ||
| Actually, we just came from the wall that we, the people, built. | ||
| We built the wall. | ||
| It was such an honor to be there with you. | ||
| We were on the Mexico side, a little more dangerous on the Mexico side than on the U.S. side for obvious reasons. | ||
| But it was quiet. | ||
| It's quiet now in that area, because President Trump's in office. | ||
| And that's what we're down here doing, is showing the Trump impact, but also showing the reality of the evil that is the cartel. | ||
| You just saw that video of the cartel cemeteries, which were just shocking. | ||
| I mean, seriously, Steve, driving through there was incredible. | ||
| But the other side to that is just how evil they are. | ||
| Right down the road from that location, leading up to where the cartel's headquarters were, the Chapito's headquarters were, was this massive monument To the devil, this Santa Muerte. | ||
| And everywhere you go where the cartel's in operation, you've got these Santa Muerte shrines. | ||
| They're praying to the devil. | ||
| That's how evil these guys are. | ||
| Slow down, slow down. | ||
| For just a dumb mick, what do you mean? | ||
| Explain that, Oscar and Ben. | ||
| They have monuments to the devil, to Satan? | ||
| Is that like a symbol for these cartels? | ||
| Yeah, so it's called Santa Muerte. | ||
| It's the saint of death. | ||
| But that's who they pray to. | ||
| So these guys will go out before they go and kill somebody or before they go and do their operations, they will go and pray. | ||
| And it's directly praying to the devil. | ||
| I mean, when you're going to go dismember somebody, who else would you be praying to? | ||
| They are everywhere. | ||
| There's one just right down the road from where we're at in Anapra. | ||
| Everywhere you go where the cartels and operations, these shrines are getting built. | ||
| And I'm seeing more and more and more of them on the Mexico side. | ||
| But now you're starting to see them on the U.S. | ||
| side as well. | ||
| Oscar? | ||
| And you know, the cartels have put massive statues in the part of Culiacan where there's this massive war between these two cartels. | ||
| Also in the parts of Tijuana and the mountains, you know, right here in Juarez, you will see these statues of, you know, the satanic, you know, rituals and satanic offerings that the cartel massively does to this Is there any preparation? | ||
| Do you get a sense the Mexican military or is anybody preparing? | ||
| I know it's quiet because we've stopped the inflow of the invasion. | ||
| And the New York Times was reporting because of Trump's tariffs, write that down, tariffs, the fentanyl has dropped 50%. | ||
| But President Trump in this regard saying, hey, you know, it's the labs, it's the cartels, the partners for the Chinese Communist Party, you know, I don't care if it's dropped by 50% because of tariffs. | ||
| I want to eradicate it once and for all. | ||
| Is there any sense that Either a paramilitary or military operation or something is in the works. | ||
| Not next week, but potentially over the next couple of months, guys. | ||
| Well, let me just show you what's going on here. | ||
| Just to give you an update. | ||
| We're in Juarez. | ||
| This is the first time I've ever seen this. | ||
| Oscar's reported on this down in Tijuana, but we actually have roadblocks, checkpoints going into, this is the port of entry going over to El Paso. | ||
| Right behind us is a checkpoint being done by the National Guard. | ||
| This is the first time I've ever seen this. | ||
| This was never done under Joe Biden. | ||
| They're actually checking vehicles before they even enter to go across the bridge. | ||
| Now, again, whether this is for show, some of that we've seen in the past, how much of this has a direct impact on stopping the fentanyl, but this is one of those ports. | ||
| You've got Laredo as well. | ||
| You've got Tijuana where huge amounts of fentanyl are going across. | ||
| And the Mexican government at least is showing this. | ||
| directly back to the threat of tariffs. | ||
| But going back to Cuyacan, the Mexican military has been down there. | ||
| It's a mixed bag. | ||
| So you've got two things happening. | ||
| There's a reorganization of cartels happening right now. | ||
| You've got the president of Mexico going after some of these cartels, but then protecting some of the other cartels. | ||
| It's what we've seen in the past back in the 80s when you had Carlos Quintero being protected by the Mexican government, basically taking out his rivals. | ||
| So you have some of that going on as we speak. | ||
| But there's no doubt about it. | ||
| There is a bigger presence, military presence, law enforcement presence going after the cartels. | ||
| There's a war now between the cartels and cartels and the cartels in the Mexican government. | ||
| And the question is, how kinetic does it get? | ||
| And I have a sense, Steve, that it's going to get more kinetic rather than less kinetic very soon. | ||
| Well, yes, they deployed more than 10,000 National Guardsmen, Steve, and one of the cities that they wanted to deploy is to Ciudad Juarez, that right now is number two as the most dangerous cities in the world for violence and kidnappings and abductions. | ||
| So this is what you see. | ||
| You see a checkpoint. | ||
| That's exactly what it was in Tijuana. | ||
| And to go back to the topic of laboratories, just recently the Mexican government seized the biggest laboratory possibly in history in the whole world with more than 700 million doses of methamphetamine in Zacatecas with more than 40 acres of property. | ||
| Specifically, the Mexican government is attacking two cartels, the CGNG and also the Chapitos cartel. | ||
| Those are the only two cartels that they're going after, but the speculation is strong that the Mexican government is protecting El Mayo Zambada, which is the campaign and drug lord that is under protection right now or in custody in the United States of America, and that he knows a lot of information of who politically funded the campaign of the past president, AMLO, Oscar, hang on for, you guys hang on right there. | ||
| I want to bring Julie Kelly in. | ||
| I'm going to get to the hearing today. | ||
| But in this, these tactical decisions that have to be made, this is a war on our southern border. | ||
| They've lied to us for years because in the first 60 days, Trump has essentially closed the border. | ||
| Nobody's coming across. | ||
| These two guys have put their lives at risk for years covering this. | ||
| That part of it's quiet. | ||
| Now they're looking at military. | ||
| Can a judge? | ||
| Can any judge insert themselves into an individual who has commander-in-chief is going to be directing forces about what happened? | ||
| This is what's so insane. | ||
| You see how chaotic this is. | ||
| You see how dangerous this is. | ||
| You see how it deals with relationships with another country, economics, another military, our own people. | ||
| What type of ego has a judge to think that they can insert themselves in what is a live-fire drill, ma'am? | ||
| Well, I think that that's the trajectory that these judges are on right now, and they're getting away with it. | ||
| Because, of course, for the most part, the Supreme Court won't step in. | ||
| The appellate court, especially here in D.C., in a few cases has. | ||
| And we'll talk about Judge Bosberg today. | ||
| You just came from the hearing. | ||
| Yes. So we're going to hold that for a second. | ||
| You just came from the hearing. | ||
| Correct. And you've kind of seen it all in that courtroom. | ||
| Yes. But you were a little even shocked by what you saw today. | ||
| Right, because these judges are pushing the boundaries of their authority and intruding on the President's Article 2, as Mike Davis loves to say. | ||
| I mean, that's what it is, Article 2 authority, encroaching on that authority and really Not testing the limits, but violating those limits. | ||
| And now you have judges who, and this is what we'll talk about with Bosberg, the real criminals are not the illegals who are crossing the border, who are suspected members of terror organizations like TDA. | ||
| The real criminals, according to Judge Bosberg, are in the Trump administration for daring to defy one of his court orders about turning planes around. | ||
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| We're going to get to in a second. | ||
| Zero. Zero, Steve. In fact, you go to a place like Kuya Khan, that, it was tragic. | ||
| You know, it was my first time being in that city, but that's a city that's living with Stockholm Syndrome. | ||
| They are shell-shocked. | ||
| They have been controlled by the cartels for so long. | ||
| They live with that fear. | ||
| In fact, we were driving down the road where a kidnapping had happened just moments before we drove past, and nobody's out in the streets, nobody's saying anything, nobody's reporting it. | ||
| They are silent because they are so afraid. | ||
| They are terrorized by these organizations and, if anything, they are thanking God that President Trump is in there and that the Mexican military and the Mexican government is actually doing something to stop these terror organizations. | ||
| Because that's what they are. | ||
| If you live in Mexico and you live in a cartel area, you understand very clearly, very directly, many of your family members have been killed or kidnapped. | ||
| These are terror organizations. | ||
| You don't have to tell the people of Mexico that. | ||
| They live it. | ||
| Zero. To answer your question, Steve, zero. | ||
| And back to Julie Kelly's point, the real terrorists, the real people behind this are just like that. | ||
| The judges and these NGOs and these leftist organizations that are attacking President Trump, that are attacking America, that are attacking our sovereignty and putting our own people in danger. | ||
| Those people, and until that, until those people are held accountable, until these judges and these politicians that are inviting this invasion, that are inviting the destruction of our own country are held accountable, we're not going to see much change. | ||
| And the same goes down here for Mexico. | ||
| Completely the contrast, Steve, and more than that, what President Trump has done has created a sense of fate for the political party and the right-wing political party of PAN in Mexico. | ||
| They have completely gone against the opposition and the left, and have completely awoken the conservative party to have the legitimate statements to say, you are corrupt, you are a narco-government, since the just-recent founding of the extermination camp, since exposing the government of Mexico, | ||
| and why the Mexican government It's Unbelievable. | ||
| One man who basically represents and represents working class people. | ||
| Like I said, not in the room, not in the deal. | ||
| He's put the American citizens. | ||
| But think what he's done for the little guy in Mexico who's been completely abused by the government. | ||
| It's just shocking. | ||
| One last thing before I go. | ||
| Oscar. A year ago, we had this huge debate in the Senate with Lankford and all these guys, this huge massive bill, 2,000 pages long, hundreds of billions of dollars. | ||
| It had to happen, give amnesty to everybody, because the border could not be secured. | ||
| The border could not be shut down unless this went on. | ||
| And they harangued President Trump. | ||
| We stopped it with President Trump, made sure it didn't go forward. | ||
| We were harangued. | ||
| President Trump has harangued it. | ||
| He'd given up border security. | ||
| How many days Sir, after he was inaugurated, in your professional opinion, and you've spent more time there than any one individual, how many days was it before President Trump was able to essentially secure the border? | ||
| It was not even days. | ||
| It was just a minute after he was inaugurated. | ||
| The CBP One app was cancelled and everybody was returned back. | ||
| And it was a shocker for everybody because everybody was waiting for their appointment at 12 o'clock to enter the United States of America. | ||
| There was hundreds of people waiting and I was there with you, Steve. | ||
| And it was 12.01 in the evening and I posted that image that the CBP One app was cancelled and that this was going to be eradicated and eliminated. | ||
| 98% of the flow in the dairy and GAP I think so. | ||
| now, there's no caravans coming into the north. | ||
| This is the Trump effect. | ||
| And it was immediate. | ||
| It was not even days. | ||
| It was a minute after he got inaugurated as being president. | ||
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| That amazing picture in the New York Times just a beautiful sweep of the border wall I think it was actually from where's that mountain and There was no people crossing there was no caravans And I said and they actually had the New York Times said the border at the border is basically secure Under President Trump in day 60 65 and I said all quiet on the southern front Trump did it by action It's just absolutely stunning guys. | ||
| You need to be careful You're in dangerous territory now. | ||
| It used to be a great little border town. | ||
| Now it's quite a dangerous place. | ||
| I don't want to tell people where you're going to go. | ||
| I know you're down there on this journey to check out what's happening with the cartels. | ||
| How can people follow you, Oscar? | ||
| And Ben, where do they go? | ||
| Oscar Blue Ramirez is all around, sir. | ||
| You know, in Real America's boys news. | ||
| And thank you again for the invitation, sir. | ||
| Yeah, americasvoice.news on all social media, at Real AM Voice, and then my social media at Ben Berkwam. | ||
| We're posting those videos. | ||
| I have a ton more that we're going to be releasing, and then obviously our next episodes of Law& Border will be coming out. | ||
| Season 5 is happening now. | ||
| The restoration of America under President Trump. | ||
| Have we been doing this long? | ||
| I remember when we launched season one, season five. | ||
| By the way, you guys changed the arc of history. | ||
| You and the Real America Voice investigative team. | ||
| Remember all those years down in Darien Gap? | ||
| Anyway, Godspeed and be safe until we talk to you guys again. | ||
| Do we have a clip on the judge that we can play for us, Bob? | ||
| Let's play that, and then we're going to bring in Julie. | ||
| Julie Kelly just left federal court. | ||
| I've been all day with Julie over at the Justice Department, and then she slipped out to do her day job, which is to report from these courts. | ||
| I don't know how she does it. | ||
| God bless her. | ||
| Let's play the clip, and we'll bring Julie in. | ||
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Welcome back. | |
| A high-stakes hearing just wrapped up where the Trump administration made its case as to why they didn't violate Judge Boasberg's order on deportation flights. | ||
| It's the first step in Boasberg potentially holding officials in contempt or ordering sanctions. | ||
| Caitlin Polans joins us now. | ||
| Caitlin, what do we learn in this hearing? | ||
| Okay, see the importance of this hearing is whether this administration is willing just to ignore a court's order. | ||
| And what today was about is the judge hearing from a Justice Department attorney to try and nail down. | ||
| Did they did they do that? | ||
| And this hearing, it lasted about 40 minutes. | ||
| It was primarily questioning of the judge asking questions of the Justice Department lawyer, Drew Ensign. | ||
| And I was holding my breath listening to this. | ||
| It was so tense. | ||
| We also heard from reporters and producers over at the courthouse who were there. | ||
| It was so intense watching Bozberg draw out the questions here asking, Who was giving the order for planes to not turn around that had migrants that were being carried to an El Salvadoran prison? | ||
| At the moment that those flights were in the air, March 15th, on that Saturday, Judge Boasberg was holding a hearing in court and saying, you need to turn the planes around. | ||
| So he's trying to establish whether there was an intention there. | ||
| He didn't make a decision during this hearing, but he kept asking who was on the call from the administration, who was listening to the court's orders, who was talking to the Justice Department attorney, who did the Justice Department attorney tell? | ||
| about this order from the judge just getting those names of people in the administration. | ||
| The judge ultimately said there's a fair likelihood that this administration violated his orders. | ||
| And so now we see what happens next with him and also what happens with this case, bigger issues of presidential power. | ||
| If you notice the people that are contributors here that come in year in and year out. | ||
| They have an urgency, a tenacity, and expertise. | ||
| They love what they do. | ||
| You see Ben and Oscar and Mike Davis are dozens and dozens of more. | ||
| Julie Kelly, what I'm so impressed with what I just heard, Julie Kelly told me the day of that hearing, she said, you watch, he's going to eventually have a hearing and he's going to go nuts, going through a timeline to know specifically, because what he's looking for is the word, | ||
| perfect. No, you're exactly right, | ||
| and I hate to brag, but that was exactly what Not only we knew from the first hearing on March 15th when he issued two temporary restraining orders in writing. | ||
| So let's talk about, I don't know if we have time. | ||
| We've got plenty of time. | ||
| We're getting now to the end of the show. | ||
| What Jeb Bosberg did, I suspect, and this was confirmed today in the hearing. | ||
| He set the hearing on March 15th. | ||
| That was a Saturday. | ||
| It was a Saturday. | ||
| It's a March. | ||
| I was downtown Chicago ready to do the St. Patrick's Day festivities. | ||
| Which normally Julie's not, by 4 or 5 o'clock, Julie's not camera ready, okay? | ||
| That's not true! | ||
| At 9 o'clock in the morning I'm not camera ready, okay? | ||
| I don't wake up beautiful like Mike Davis, so I have to... | ||
| So at any rate, here's the timeline. | ||
| The ACLU files this lawsuit at 115 on the morning of March 15th. | ||
| They are aware... | ||
| A.M. A.M. They are aware the night before, March 14th, the President signed the Alien Enemies Act proclamation. | ||
| Yes. That covered all illegal Venezuelans. | ||
| Which sets it all in motion. | ||
| Exactly. However, the proclamation is not active until it's posted on the website. | ||
| Here's the timeline. | ||
| ACLU apparently knows that the president has signed this proclamation. | ||
| 115 in the morning. | ||
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| They get tipped off. | ||
| 115, they file the lawsuit. | ||
| 7.30 a.m., this lands on Jeb Bosberg's desk. | ||
| This lengthy lawsuit seeking a temporary restraining order. | ||
| And this is a Saturday morning for a judge. | ||
| You think he's playing golf or he's going to go play tennis? | ||
| He said in the hearing later that day that he was out of town. | ||
| So he apologized for his casual dress. | ||
| He didn't even have a robe to put on for this Zoom hearing. | ||
| So at 730 it lands on his desk. | ||
| Now, it's only related to five plaintiffs who are covered by the Alien Enemies Act proclamation. | ||
| That has been signed the night before. | ||
| But not posted. | ||
| So they kind of twisted themselves in a little bit of a knot, right? | ||
| The plaintiffs. | ||
| And the judge. | ||
| At 940, Judge Bosberg enters a minute order, a temporary restraining order, prohibiting the removal of the five unnamed plaintiffs. | ||
| Now, in the lawsuit, they also asked to turn those five plaintiffs into a class action lawsuit. | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| This would cover everyone. | ||
| Jeb Bosberg sets a... | ||
| So the ACLU, just to make sure you understand, is trying to take this entire criminal class of some of the baddest hombres ever. | ||
| Yes. Terrorist criminals that have raped, tortured, etc. | ||
| And he is commander-in-chief in instituting and putting out a proclamation to basically set in motion the Alien Enemies Act of 1798. | ||
| They want to come in immediately and protect not just everybody. | ||
| All of them. | ||
| All of them. | ||
| Now, these are members of Tren de Aragua, which has been designated a foreign terror organization by Secretary of State Marco Rubio. | ||
| This is the basis of the proclamation. | ||
| And the president said that because they are tied to the Maduro regime and they are a multinational criminal operation, that they can be And he's doing this in his role as Commander-in-Chief. | ||
| Diplomacy, national security, these are all the arguments that the Trump administration has made in fighting Jeb Osberg's ban on removing these... | ||
| I hear music. | ||
| Do we have time to go through this timely? | ||
| We got about a minute. | ||
| So, Jeb Osberg leaps into action. | ||
| 940, he says these five individuals cannot be removed. | ||
| Then he set a four o'clock hearing in the afternoon of March 15th. | ||
| But then he moved it to five o'clock. | ||
| And this is why this is important. | ||
| The proclamation was not posted until 3.53 p.m. on March 15th, therefore making it active. | ||
| But the judge had already entered the temporary restraining order for the five under the Alien Enemies Act. | ||
| But why did he move it from 4 to 5? | ||
| Because Bosberg knew and the ACLU knew that two planes were going to be taking off at around 5.30 in the afternoon. | ||
| He helped, it appears, he helped set up this contempt trap with the ACLU who had already indicated they knew these planes were taking off. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| And we'll get more to the timeline because this is important. | ||
| This is like one of those podcasts that's like a dramatic hold. | ||
| This is. | ||
| Yes. Folks, I'm telling you, this is the pressure on Trump. | ||
| Think of the tariffs, everything. | ||
| On everything he does, they put the biggest team to stop him and the snarkiest tricks to try to entrap him. | ||
| They want Trump in a contempt charge. | ||
| They want Trump and Danbury on contempt. | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
| They're coming hard for him on every different aspect. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| The Julie Kellys in the war room next. | ||
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| This is very important. | ||
| I can tell you what they're doing. | ||
| They're trying to get Trump officials held in contempt. | ||
| They're trying to shift the narrative away from, because they understand they're in a bad spot. | ||
| The American people are 90-10, like, get these bad guys out of here. | ||
| What are you talking about due process? | ||
| This is an invasion, this is a military operation. | ||
| They're losing that narrative. | ||
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| So walk through how they laid a trap. | ||
| For the Trump White House, ma'am. | ||
| So again, this is all unfolding on Saturday, March 15th. | ||
| So now we're at the timeline 11 o'clock in the morning or so Judge Bosberg has already without any briefing from the government from the DOJ just unilaterally enters the temporary restraining order for the five Unidentified anonymous Venezuelan illegals who are set to be deported under the Alien Enemies Act that has not yet been posted. | ||
| He set a four o'clock hearing for that day. | ||
| The DOJ is scrambling. | ||
| Obviously, it's a Saturday. | ||
| The ACLU is somehow already aware that planes are taking off around five. | ||
| Tipped from the administrative in Deep State. | ||
| So what the DOJ admitted today, and they have in filings, is that before the Alien Enemies Act proclamation was posted, they were already collecting these men under the proclamation, putting them on planes set to be deported to El Salvador, Honduras. | ||
| So the hearing is set for four o'clock. | ||
| Bosberg changes the hearing till five o'clock, because AWARE That two planes are taking off around 530. | ||
| The hearing begins now. | ||
| This hearing relates to turning the five unidentified Venezuelan illegal gangbangers into this class action. | ||
| Again, a huge decision by a judge without any briefing by the DOJ whatsoever. | ||
| He originally set a hearing for Monday, the 17th, then quickly set it for the 15th. | ||
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The DOJ doesn't even have time to Because he doesn't want the government to be prepared. | |
| He knows the ACLU always has a big team working on this. | ||
| Here's the catch. | ||
| The hearing starts at 5 o'clock. | ||
| The DOJ attorney, Drew Ensign, is there. | ||
| He questions Drew Ensign and says, do you know if any of these planes are set to be departed carrying any of these individuals covered? | ||
| Bossberg recesses the hearing at 522, directs the DOJ, Drew Ensign, go make some calls and find out about these planes. | ||
| 522. About four or five minutes before the first plane is set to depart southern Texas. | ||
| You're telling me this is a coincidence of the time? | ||
| He reconvenes the hearing at 6 p.m. | ||
| He grills Drew Ensign. | ||
| Now, two planes have taken off during this recess, during this break in the hearing. | ||
| Drew Ensign comes back and apparently says, I can't get any confirmation about these planes. | ||
| Obviously, again, it's a Saturday night. | ||
| Who's he going to call? | ||
| Pilots in Texas? | ||
| Who's he going to contact on a Saturday night? | ||
| So he says he can't find out the information. | ||
| At about 6.48, In a verbal, what he calls an oral ruling, and this is highly in dispute between the Department of Justice and the judge and the ACLU, is that oral rulings aren't controlling because they're just that. | ||
| They're oral, they're verbal, and he might call it a verbal ruling. | ||
| He said, so he turns it immediately into a class and then says anyone who's covered in this class, if they're on these planes, the planes need to be turned around. | ||
| And return to the United States. | ||
| Now at this point, they're out of United States airspace, correct? | ||
| So he knows exactly what he is setting up. | ||
| So he has trapped the DOJ attorney who is there. | ||
| He appears to have set this break to coincide with the departure of these two planes. | ||
| So he can lure the DOJ and the White House and the Trump administration into a contempt trap on a verbal order that by 726, when he issued his second temporary restraining order, he did not mention returning any planes. | ||
| So... Why did he drop that? | ||
| Why is that not in the second? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He forgot about it or is it... | ||
| I think he just said, because I said it. | ||
| And he instructed that all attorneys there, you don't have to write this down. | ||
| The verbal order so now he's arguing that that verbal order is a court order that it is Controlling and that because and that is why he's trying to hold these people in contempt on that oral oral He wants to know the exact time and who gave the command because that person has to be in contempt of this federal judge correct, although he did not Right, right. | ||
| There was another hearing on Monday. | ||
| Okay, but today he did make a big deal about that. | ||
| So today was a show cause hearing. | ||
| This is the fourth hearing in this matter in three weeks. | ||
| This is how to turn it into. | ||
| Determined he is to make this an issue. | ||
| A show cause hearing where the Department of Justice had to come and prove to him that they did not, as he calls it, disobey his order. | ||
| But what he did today went even further and he grilled the DOJ attorney. | ||
| Okay, who did you talk to during that break? | ||
| After the break, did you email anyone after the hearing and let them know about this verbal command that I did? | ||
| Yes, I did. | ||
| Who did you email? | ||
| Hold it, hang on. | ||
| The government didn't give him any names. | ||
| Yes, they did. | ||
| How can that happen? | ||
| That's privilege. | ||
| Only the Attorney General has to talk to the President of the United States. | ||
| And again, this is nothing that's been covered. | ||
| The lawyers just say, hey, we'll have to get back to you. | ||
| He did not. | ||
| Are you telling me, in an open court, that the lawyer for the government, upon request of a judge, gave who they actually talked to, by name, and who they sent emails to? | ||
| Officials? A few names, yes, he did. | ||
| We're not sending our best, I don't think. | ||
| First of all, I'm not a lawyer, but I know enough about these procedures. | ||
| You just tell, hey judge, I gotta get back to you. | ||
| I gotta get back to you. | ||
| And the judge says, no, you gotta give them to me now, then guess what? | ||
| I'm gonna, I guess I'm gonna take the contempt charge right here. | ||
| But on what basis is he asking for that? | ||
| I mean, it's a clear delineation between power, between authority. | ||
| Where does a judge, an unelected judge, I don't care if he's the Chief Judge or who he is, demand to know? | ||
| These are heroes and warriors at the Justice Department. | ||
| And people, you have to understand, the White House staff is under tremendous pressure. | ||
| Every department's under tremendous pressure because President Trump is moving with an urgency that we've never seen any president move in different verticals. | ||
| Justice is under incredible pressure and they're trying to hire and of course they're slowing down every day. | ||
| You know, I think Sawyer got approved today. | ||
| I think he got confirmed today, but they've slowed down trying to get these guys in there are tremendous pressure. | ||
| But do you believe that the Justice Department, the main justice, is taking this one seriously enough? | ||
| Because this is probably the case, don't you think? | ||
| I think it is the case, and there are so many cases. | ||
| Why do you think there's so many, but why do you think this is the case? | ||
| Because I think it goes right to what we talked about, the heart of protecting presidential authority and power, especially immigration policy, foreign policy, diplomatic... | ||
| National security. | ||
| National security. | ||
| This is him as commander-in-chief. | ||
| What Bossberg also did today, because the DOJ has invoked the administration's state secret privilege to keep from Bossberg details about these deportation flights, this has nothing to do with Judge Bossberg wanting to know if these illegals were denied due process or habeas or whatever. | ||
| This is part of his crusade to create a contempt charge against him. | ||
| They have invoked the state secret privilege. | ||
| He laughed that off today, demanding to know on what basis have they invoked the state secret privilege. | ||
| He laughed it off? | ||
| I mean, he was just like, well, I've never heard of this before. | ||
| Is any of this information classified? | ||
| On what basis are they saying the state's secret? | ||
| Why can't you give it to me? | ||
| He kept saying, you're telling me I can't have the information about these flights in an ex parte hearing? | ||
| Like, he's like, how dare you say that me as the judge cannot get this information? | ||
| Then he wanted to know Who is listening on the audio line? | ||
| Because all of a sudden, Steve, now I covered these hearings, these trials for three years. | ||
| They shut down the audio line right before they started the J6 trials. | ||
| So if I wanted to cover a trial or proceeding, I had to come here. | ||
| Then all of a sudden, the lawsuits happened against the trial. | ||
| All the audio lines are back on, so everyone can listen to it. | ||
| Judge Bosberg demanding to know who from the administration, DHS, DOJ, anyone, Was listening to the audio line, listening to the hearing. | ||
| And the attorney says, well, I think I've got a name or two. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| Who do you think might have been listening? | ||
| And the DOJ said, well, I don't know. | ||
| I can't speculate on who might have been listening to an open public line. | ||
| This was so far beyond any judge's jurisdiction or authority. | ||
| But what he's doing is intimidating this attorney. | ||
| And as he said, He believes that there's probable cause that it can be held, someone can be held in contempt. | ||
| Now, it's not just going to be, hey, here's a contempt charge, here's a contempt allegation. | ||
| He's talking about depositions. | ||
| He's talking about evidentiary hearings. | ||
| He's talking about taking depositions of people in the administration? | ||
| Correct. He's talking about what else? | ||
| Evidentiary hearings. | ||
| Calling witnesses. | ||
| Oh, because he's moving down, really, and he's moving in another direction with contempt here. | ||
| It's a whole different thing. | ||
| He wants a whole process, right? | ||
| So today, not today, because we talked about this shortly thereafter, he was laying the contempt trap early. | ||
| This is advancing the ball. | ||
| So he said next month, next week, excuse me, he will issue an opinion, an order about the show cause hearing based on what he said today. | ||
| He's going to say that he believes there's probable cause that the administration did violate his court order and perhaps could set out a whole new quasi-trial judicial process calling in top officials. | ||
| Oh, he's gonna go for, he's not gonna go for civil, he's gonna go for a criminal charge here. | ||
| He's gonna say, "You disregarded my order from the bench, And you lied to me afterwards. | ||
| And you shipped these guys out here and lied to me. | ||
| That's a criminal charge. | ||
| You watch. | ||
| This is going to be... | ||
| Now, just so the audience understands, there's also another part of this That may or may not go in the emergency docket of the Supreme Court. | ||
| What is that about? | ||
| Well, here's the really, I think, defiant thing that Bosberg is doing, and that is that both of his written temporary restraining orders are on emergency motion for a stay or a hold before the Supreme Court. | ||
| And Bosberg's orders have all sorts of problems, not the least of which, now he turned--They're not written clearly, or are they just over--They were minute orders. | ||
| There was no opinion followed up with that. | ||
| There was one opinion that he issued denying their request No, it's great. | ||
| Okay. This should have been handled in habeas in | ||
| southern Texas. | ||
| There was no reason to bring this to DC. | ||
| Well, we know why. | ||
| But a good argument. | ||
| The War Room, Engine Room, Legal Department wants to ask Julie Carter, why no interlocutory appeals? | ||
| Well, I mean, basically the emergency motion to the Supreme Court kind of acts that way. | ||
| Temporary restraining orders are generally not appealable. | ||
| But they're also not for long periods of time. | ||
| Right. And so, in another case, the appellate court said, well, this TRO is acting as a preliminary injunction, which is appealable, and this is the next step in the TRO process there. | ||
| But TROs generally are not appealable. | ||
| Now, the appellate court did take it up, 2-1 decision, though. | ||
| They upheld Bossberg's temporary restraining orders, did not put a hold on that, and then that's how they went to the Supreme Court. | ||
| Of the, I think they have 90 some, that every time he takes an action, like Carrie Lake was here the other day, Voice of America I think already has seven. | ||
| Every time they take an action, they're gan-tackling these. | ||
| Think about President Trump in the Oval, everything he has to get going, and the White House Counsel and DOJ has to come over and briefing on these, on the complexity of them. | ||
| Every time he takes an action, they understand to delay is to deny. | ||
| They're trying to slow down the Trump agenda in every aspect of it. | ||
| And Jeb Bosberg repeatedly referred to January 6th as an insurrection, as an attempt to overthrow democracy, an attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election. | ||
| And here he is single-handedly thwarting and sabotaging the president's agenda, especially immigration, which is wildly popular among Democrats, Independents, And of course Republicans. | ||
| So here he is sabotaging the president, the elected president's top agenda item while for three years calling January 6th an insurrection and throwing people in jail. | ||
| And intruding into him being the commander-in-chief. | ||
| Has anybody, one way to stop this is to have a hearing and bring Bosberg in. | ||
| Have you gotten any sense of judiciary? | ||
| First off, are you briefing staff? | ||
| Are you talking to staff? | ||
| I know you can't, if it's confidential, fine. | ||
| But is there any movement really in this town for judiciary to bring Bosberg and your favorite, Beryl Howell, in and have them deposed in front of the nation? | ||
| I mean, I know there were hearings this week about judicial overreach. | ||
| I know that there is some proposed legislation to rein in these judges. | ||
| But that's for the three. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| But that's a process hearing about having three judge panel do it instead of just one. | ||
| I think that's great, but that's not the problem we have right now. | ||
| That's not the problem. | ||
| You need to bring these judges before impeachment hearings. | ||
| What are they waiting for? | ||
| What have they been waiting for? | ||
| Now, I would argue very strongly that Beryl Howell Yeah. | ||
| DOJ, two criminal investigations into the president, her rubber stamping, Special Counsel Jack Smith. | ||
| But Bosburg now is so out of his lane that... | ||
| What are they waiting for? | ||
| So if Jeb Bosberg can try to overreach into the presidential executive branch, what are they waiting for in doing the reverse? | ||
| Okay, breaking news. | ||
| Grace Chung just got to me. | ||
| The first lawsuit has been filed against Trump's emergency tariffs on China by a conservative law group, the New Civil Liberties Alliance, maybe one of these libertarian groups. | ||
| Here's my point. | ||
| Everything Trump is trying to do Now with the reorganization of the tariffs and day of liberation They're going to court and by tomorrow when we come back at 10 o'clock in the morning I guarantee you there's gonna be 50 lawsuits in different venues trying to get TROs to shut it all down We got the judicial side is not is not judicial supremacy We have an insurrection and essentially a coup against the sitting president about this I want to play Stephen I want to play We got Millers, | ||
| Tim Millers. | ||
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They had a briefing at the Department of Justice and it was like Bannon Benny Johnson, and it was just a whole rogues gallery of Loomer-esque weirdos that were like having a briefing at the DOJ about the politicization of our government. | |
| So, you know, Justice Department, national security decisions are being decided by MAGA conspiracy bloggers. | ||
| So that should help you sleep at night. | ||
| Yeah, Loomer got six mini-scalps today. | ||
| We got about a minute. | ||
| Your work has been incredible. | ||
| Are you in a camp out here to spend more time on these? | ||
| I take it people you see from the lawsuits and tariffs. | ||
| This is just going to be illegal. | ||
| We have to lance this boil, do we not? | ||
| Yes, we do. | ||
| And so it's really in terms of this case, sort of in the hands of the Supreme Court to see what they do in this emergency motion to put a stay on Bossberg's temporary restraining orders. | ||
| Also, Congress. | ||
| Yes, letters are nice. | ||
| Hearings are nice. | ||
| Do something. | ||
| Do something. | ||
| You think it rises to the level of start an impeachment process now? | ||
| Absolutely. And who cares if you just Start the hearing. | ||
| Just begin. | ||
| Do something. | ||
| And need people go to your Substack, right? | ||
| And if you pay the eight bucks a month, you get free content. | ||
| You walked right outside of the court today and gave a free five minute. | ||
| So you want to be on the cutting edge of the cutting edge, do this. | ||
| Where do people go? | ||
| Declassified with Julie Kelley on Substack. | ||
| Ask Julie underscore Kelley, too. | ||
| And the war room. | ||
| And the war room. | ||
| Folks, I want to tell you, I have never seen this city on fire. | ||
| The activity that's going on is intense in every different level. | ||
| We're going to have four hours again tomorrow to bring it all to you, and we can't even get it in. | ||
| We could broadcast ten hours a day and not even scratch the surface. | ||
| Right Stuff's going to take us out, because guess what? | ||
| You've got the right stuff. | ||
| And I'll tell you, somebody who has the right stuff, the President of the United States, the pressure on this guy is unbelievable. | ||
| And look at this guy, Bozeman. | ||
| And they've got a hundred people like that that are focused on taking out Trump. | ||
| Their obsession is to take out the President of the United States. | ||
| Julie Kelly, you're a rock star. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you for having me on. | ||
| And see, you went to hair and makeup early in the day and you came out and you look amazing, right? | ||
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