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Episode 4379: Rise Of The Liberal Resistance; Oliver Stone To Speak In Front Of GOP Oversight
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natalie winters
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steve bannon
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pramila jayapal
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todd bensman
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Quite a remarkable moment, and I don't think there's any recent precedent that I'm familiar with where the President of the United States has single-handedly become the major risk factor in the global economy.
We are only hours away from April 2nd, the self-styled Liberation Day, Donald Trump says, of the American economy.
We don't know the details and specifics of the plan because it's being treated like a reality television show rollout for the future of the global economy.
Look at me.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish, in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved!
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
steve bannon
It's Tuesday 1 April in the Year of Our Lord 2025.
Today, folks, strap in.
It's absolutely packed all day.
Here in the War Room, of course, obviously Florida won, Florida 6. If you're in those two districts in Florida and you're a member of the War Room Posse, you know, put your shoulder to the wheel today.
We've got to win both and we've got to win by big margins.
Wisconsin, we're at Brad Schimming.
I will give you a rally check.
The early numbers I've seen do not look great for Wisconsin.
That's why we have to have a massive game day turnout, and I know there's inclement weather in part of the state, so shimmies are going to join us in the 11 o'clock hour.
The eve of Liberation Day, really the biggest geoeconomic reset about the American economy since the Second World War.
I agree with that, with all the pundits talk about, they quite missed the mark.
On what the real mathematics here in the economy, we're going to talk about that.
Stunning news out of both Ukraine about running this war.
The New York Times, the fake New York Times, the failing New York Times, President Trump says.
Actually two amazing pieces in the New York Times that are shockingly along the lines with the words we've been talking about the last couple of years.
A stunning piece that we're going to talk about tonight at six o'clock because I need some people That helped me break it down about the American military, the CIA and British commandos essentially running the war from Germany in the years of this war.
We'll get to that.
Also, another blockbuster report about what President Trump has done to not just shut down the border, but really shut down fentanyl trafficking and drug trafficking, the chemical warfare from the New York Times.
Todd Bensman's got an analysis of that and others.
We call it all quiet on the southern front and Todd Benson is going to join us.
We got the tariffs today, people still working through.
I'm not quite sure that it's actually the structure and the tiers and reciprocity versus 15 percent.
We're going to work through that all day with you today.
On top of that, there's a press briefing at noon.
Natalie's going to be there for that.
You got and Brian Glenn, APL.
Anna Paulina Luna has got a Kennedy, a JFK assassination hearing today.
We're going to stream it live at two o'clock, I think.
I think that Oliver Stone is going to testify there and others about CIA involvement, intelligence community involvement in President Kennedy's assassination.
The great Mike Benz is going to join Natalie and myself tomorrow morning.
We're going to go through, Benz has got an amazing piece, does all the analysis of Bolsonaro, Le Pen, President Trump, you heard President Trump say last night how shocked he was about the situation in France.
Benz, who's the best of this, has a very detailed analysis he's doing.
He's going to share it with us tomorrow.
Also, on top of all that, Melania is over at the State Department today.
Jack Posobiec and his wife will be there.
We'll also be covering it live.
So there's so much to go.
And then there's going to be election coverage tonight.
So a full day.
On the eve of Liberation Day, still working through, I think, some of the math on the tariffs.
I have been saying, guys, you know, hey, at some point in time we have to have a rollout.
And, of course, the war room is going to be the tip of the spear on that.
I think if you watch mainstream media, we have ceded the ground to let these people, I think, poison people's minds.
Everything that's coming out of mainstream media is absolutely 100% wrong.
About really where the world's economy is, what drives the world's economy, how central trade is to that, and how the MAGA movement is not an isolationist movement.
President Trump has really thought this through.
And so between the elections today, right, in Wisconsin, which you should assume, Wisconsin, besides all the issues internal to Wisconsin, which are huge, you should consider that two House seats.
It's a 6-2 delegation.
If we lose, it's going to go 4-4.
And then you've got the two seats in Florida, which we should win.
It's about the margins.
Gates won Florida one by 32 points with President Trump at the top of the ticket.
President Trump at the top of the ticket with Mike Waltz, the new National Security Advisor, won Florida six by 30 points.
I think Florida six is, you know, people have to represent today.
You've got to be honest.
You've got to represent today.
Florida one, we should be okay, but I don't think of those margins.
And the mainstream media is going to use that narrative to bury President Trump and others, I think, starting this evening.
And so we've got to make sure that we push these over the top, both in Wisconsin and in Florida.
Natalie Winters is doing so.
So the as you know, the judicial part you can see on a global basis, whether it's Bolsonaro on trial for his life, essentially, in Brazil, Le Pen going to prison for four years and being shut out of running for president.
And those two individuals lead substantially in the polls for returning to their for Le Pen winning for the first time because they kind of controlled the assembly there.
But Front National or National Rally, whatever they call it today, really the populist nationalist right taking France for the first time ever.
She's up by 12 or 15.
Bolsonaro is up by 15 or 20.
Obviously, President Trump won a sweeping victory and still turned the country around, right track to wrong track.
They're using the legal, that's the tip of the spear.
They've also got the media, although we're shattering that every day, but it's this resistance.
And I tell people, hey, you get two choices here.
Either join us and we're going to sort this mess out at the ballot box and with people that follow the rule of law.
And and and and believe in this nation as a republic or you're gonna have a french revolution type situation folks It's coming and on this one.
I am not wrong.
I have not been wrong on the on any of these major elements Of this movement.
I don't know in 15 years, uh, and I can see this coming and it's being fueled By not just the deep state.
It's being fueled by the institutions that we're after right now.
I want to play a short clip From rachel maddow.
I'm gonna bring in natalie winters who's deconstructed All of this.
Let's look at Rachel Maddow and we'll bring Natalie in.
unidentified
I understand this idea of the resistance lab and what you're talking about in practical terms at these events.
pramila jayapal
Yeah, I mean what we decided is that we really need to help Americans understand what happens when democracies fall, when dictators take over.
We've been pretty complacent in America.
We haven't had to really deal with this in any real way and now I think people need to understand what are the lessons from other countries and working with experts who have studied democratic backsliding in countries around the world and the resistance movements that emerged to take on that democratic Okay.
where we help people understand how do you go after the pillars of support, not necessarily the person at the top, but the pillars of support that allow that person to continue to have power, and how do you shift allies from being sort of patriotic Passive opponents to being active supporters of Taking down a dictatorship and so it's been very practical.
It's been very hands-on We've taken the principles of dr. King's the six principles of nonviolent resistance That is threaded throughout and we're gonna have a second training that goes deeper into what happens if you are trying to do nonviolent protest But others are coming and instituting violence on you think of church basements across the country Thank you.
that went into preparing people.
And at the end of the day, we are plugging people in both to actions that are happening right now in their locale that they can get engaged in, but also preparing them for the moments that will come of coordinated resistance, whether it's distributed action or mass action, that people need to be ready for.
And we're increasing the understanding, which also increases the ability for people to think about taking more risk, perhaps, than they might have otherwise, because that level of risk tolerance goes up based on how severe people think things are.
steve bannon
Okay, folks, when they talk about pillars of support of President Trump, One, it's Elon Musk, obviously, and Elon Musk, the Visibles, the Tesla dealerships.
But take your number two, get your notebook out and take your number two pencil down and write this down.
A pillar of support of President Trump would be you.
Not simply the show and not simply the precinct strategy and Project 2025.
You know, if you look at the two things of the public intellectuals working on policy so we could have days of thunder for years and years and the precinct strategy, which had President Trump's back and led The turnaround that brought President Trump back with his leadership to this monumental victory in this bringing together this coalition 1932 type coalition, but pillars of support is it would be you okay?
So just note that like in the French Revolution in the Bolshevik Revolution on all these revolutions that were from the dark side.
Eventually, they come after the citizens.
That actually support the rule of law and the kind of Republican small R virtues.
And they talk about distributed action and then direct action.
These are loaded terms and they're being loaded.
They're loaded terms.
Natalie Winters, thank you for joining us.
This is the color revolution on steroids.
People have to understand.
This is going to go to a very dark place, and it's going to go to a very dark place quite quickly, because they cannot win any other way.
Natalie, take it from the top.
We've got plenty of time.
Here we've got the whole next block.
Walk us through your theory of the case, ma'am.
natalie winters
Sure, I think that very well may have been the most radical three minutes of the Rachel Maddow show since the inauguration of President Donald J. Trump.
You obviously picked up on the pillars of support frame.
Just remember, what they're doing to the Teslas right now is essentially what they want to do to you, the actual supporters of President Trump.
I guess the Teslas are just standing in the way.
But if you really, I think, analyze what Rep Jayapal said, some other quotes that I think are just important for context, quote, All right.
conferences taking down a dictatorship and talks about essentially getting ahead of these protests turning violent which is stochastic terrorism to its core the idea that oh well our movements are going to be hijacked by people who are violent it's not us we don't have anything to do with them what you just witnessed this is not talking about protests or civil disobedience or a couple of young women marching around the nationalities and mall saying that they like feminism.
This is the USAID deep state globalist playbook of regime change where they spend overtime amounts of hours.
They work in overdrive to depict regimes or rulers that they view as dictatorial, autocratic, authoritarian, and Why? So then they have what they would describe as the moral or political justification to then oust them from power.
And Representative Jayapal is busy hosting, and we'll get into who exactly is funding these organizations after the break, but these not town halls or meetings, they call them training sessions.
She told The Nation that she wants her supporters, quote, strike ready and should be preparing for violent conflict.
This is not about get-out-the-vote drives in Wisconsin.
steve bannon
This is not about going after Randy Fine for maybe not being the best of the best candidates.
This is not a debate over tariffs, of whether you should have reciprocity of tariffs or if tariffs are actually a tax on the working class.
This is not a public policy debate.
This is the same exact revolutionary playbook that has been around since the French Revolution, To the Bolsheviks.
To Mao.
In an unbroken chain.
Every element of it.
And the funding from the U.S. government and also from the highest levels of education at Harvard University.
Get ready to go to DEFCON 2 on this.
Natalie Winters joins us after a short commercial break.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen McClendon.
steve bannon
Okay, we've got some really good news we're gonna have in this show later with Todd Bensman and what really President Trump's action is taking place, but but in the political warfare that We're all engaging right now because that's what it is.
I keep telling you.
This is not a debating society You're not going these people are not interested in your facts.
They're not interested in that.
Go back to January, February, March of 2021.
We used the war room.
We refused to move from Capitol Hill.
There was chains all around.
We had up armored National Guard, 100 of them every day under Nancy Pelosi with Humvees, armored Humvees.
The Capitol Hill looked like East Berlin at the end of World War II.
Right? Completely occupied.
They were trying to send a message.
We made sure that War Room was, we're going to jam the guide on in a hill and rally around that point.
That's what happens when you take a blow in a battle.
And we had taken a blow in a battle.
We had won the 2020 election and had been stolen right in front of us, right?
And people felt powerless to do anything.
You didn't have any Republican representatives who were actually standing in the breach.
So you have to have a rally point.
If you don't have a rally point, you're just going to have a wild retreat and it's over.
Their equivalent to War Room is the Rachel Maddow show.
Rachel Maddow, she makes, I don't know, $25 or $30 million a year.
She took a $5 million pay cut.
Remember when she took off, I said she didn't really want to be tainted with all this Biden stuff, and quite frankly, she didn't.
She was going to go do for years West Wing-type TV.
Nothing appeared, right?
She wrote some books or did some documentaries.
She's now working every day for the first hundred days.
Why are they doing that?
They need a rally point.
They need a rally point.
And hers is getting, it's very different.
If you watch Rachel Maddow, she's not covering the news like anybody else.
She's doing it in the framework of a revolutionary color revolution framework.
It's quite obvious.
They're not talking about the things are going on a Capitol Hill.
They're not.
This is color revolution.
And they're down the pike.
They teed this up last night with Jayapal as, yeah, this is Gandhi, this is Martin Luther King, we're doing a church space for a couple hundred people.
That's all a bald-faced lie.
This is the aspect, the shock troops of their revolution.
The shock troops.
It's in the streets, taking the streets, the direct action part of the French Revolution, of the Bolsheviks, of Mao.
Am I saying they're dragging guillotines out today?
I'm not.
But if you look at some of the activities around Tesla, if there were Tesla executives or some people, they would drag a guillotine out, okay?
And this is what they're building to, and now they're getting more focused and more organized.
Natalie Winters.
Take it away.
I want you to walk through this in detail and make sure folks understand that this is not Jayapal.
This is not a church basement.
They ain't teaching Gandhi.
They're not teaching Martin Luther King.
This is not nonviolent.
This has been funded by your tax dollars, and it shouldn't be lost on people.
When Natalie starts talking about Harvard and what Harvard University's done about this and the thinking through of these labs and actually building a revolutionary framework, you understand what President Trump did yesterday in saying, hey, Harvard, I think you're going to review your programs.
And I keep saying these universities and the review of these universities cannot just be about the Palestinian kids in Israel and Gaza.
That's too tight a frame.
You have to bring out what the Palestinian revolt is now is a red-green combination.
Radical jihad with this Marxist element to it.
Remember, the purpose, the point of the revolution is the revolution.
I'll tell you that all the time.
Gaza is just something they're thinking up now, but it's much deeper than this.
And folks, take your number two pencil out and underline it.
When they say pillars of support, I would Argue and if I was in their rooms, I would argue the central pillar of support of Donald Trump Is the MAGA movement is you at home the war room posse and other elements of the tip of the spear So don't think this is not coming for you because it is coming for you and you look at the French Revolution You look at the Bolsheviks.
You look at Mao Zedong Eventually, they got to the working class and middle class.
They were just saying hey, I'm just trying to be a good citizen, right?
No, no.
The last thing they want is good citizens.
Natalie Winters.
natalie winters
Well, Steve, I would just add last week alone on one of these mobilization phone calls for the Soros-funded Indivisible group, the Tesla protest organizers, the leader actually explicitly invoked Mao's Hundred Flowers campaign, the Hundred Flowers Movement, saying that that was sort of what they were looking to emulate with their efforts to, you know, create revolution, to push back against President Trump.
And of course, you have the president of the Open Society.
Foundation saying just a week ago, explicitly citing Anthony Gramsci, of course, the sort of godfather of cultural Marxism and the entire Frankfurt School critique of American culture as their ideological path forward.
So these are extremely radical people.
I also think too, Steve, that we should underscore that who was speaking on Rachel Maddow last night?
It wasn't Indivisible.
It wasn't some activist.
It wasn't some far left Soros funded crazy person.
It was a member of Congress who has pledged to use these exact tactics and spread them among her colleagues.
The very same tactics where, like I said, she's calling on her supporters to be, quote, strike ready and promising that violent protests are coming.
That's a direct quote from her.
She was speaking to the nation.
But to understand who exactly is funding this, who's behind it, this is a partner of the Harvard Ash Center's nonviolent Action Lab.
Like I said, it's very stochastically terroristic in its namesake in the sense that they really want you to know that they're nonviolent.
I'd ask you, why are they working overtime to demonstrate that they're so nonviolent?
But this is a group who is sort of hosting these sessions in conjunction with Democrat members of Congress.
And the person who leads this entity is someone by the name of Erica Chenoweth.
Now, She uses they-them pronouns, so do with that what she will, but this is someone who has deep, deep ties to USAID, the State Department, and the United States Institute of Peace.
Her resume shows that she has lectured repeatedly at USAID in 2015, 2016, and as recently as 2022.
She's also authored several reports sort of from this nonviolent resistance revolution, color revolution framework for USAID as the lead investigator and a recipient of several five-figure grants.
Some of these topics, these papers include youth and LGBTQ participation in nonviolent action, struggles from below, human rights struggles by domestic actors, and civil resistance and corporate behavior, mapping trends and assessing impact.
But why this character is, I think, so particularly interesting and important is because Her entire career is essentially about analyzing the most effective tools, not for protest, but for toppling dictatorial or autocratic regimes.
And she wrote this whole long book where they analyze case by case hundreds of revolutions and they come to the conclusion that nonviolent resistance is the most effective tactic or playbook, not because they disavow terrorism or violent action, but simply because they think it's just empirically a better tactic, right?
What you're talking about is essentially the raw materials from an academic and literature perspective.
For creating bombs, or maybe in this case it's more, you know, firebombing, but I just want to read for the audience just to get a sense some of the books or journal papers that this individual has written.
quote, how to topple a dictator, the role of violence and nonviolent resistance, resilient republics, why terrorism does not destroy democracy, the study of terrorism, achievements and analytical challenges ahead to bribe or to bomb.
Do corruption and terrorism go together?
And also she wrote the seminal Oxford handbook on terrorism, including participating in panel discussions on events titled, quote, is terrorism ever legitimate?
But I think this one piece of work really articulates the threat of this center, which is, quote, why civil resistance works, the strategic logic of nonviolent conflict, where I said the reason why they're disavowing, at least right now, terrorism and violent action is not because they find anything morally, ethically or principally wrong with it, just because they think it's not an effective tool.
And to sort of broaden out this USAID critique, which I think the Mike Benzes of the world have accurately identified where they essentially identify a regime that they don't like, that's populist.
They then say, oh, well, you're autocratic, you're dictatorial.
So therefore we can use outside the system changes, go after your pillars of support.
Well, if you can believe it or not, the Ash Center, which we've actually reported on War Room years ago through a different lens, which we can get into on the Chinese Communist Party funded angle of it.
And one last point on Erica Chenoweth.
She also has lectured repeatedly at the United States Institute of Peace.
She served as a consultant to the United States Institute of Peace from 2017 to 2019, and similarly has authored a host of papers receiving five and six figure or six, sorry, four and five figure grants from this now defunct institution to spread, again, not protests, not women's march, not let's celebrate democracy, But full-blown regime change.
steve bannon
Natalie, hang right there.
I'm going to hold you into the next break.
Two things I want to say as we go to break here with Modern Day Holy War.
Of course, Caroline Levy gave that great interview to David Brody and the team over at Christian Broadcasting.
Amazing talk about the spiritual warfare.
They can't even feel it in the White House.
Two points we're going to tie together next.
Natalie brought up Gramsci, the Frankfurt School.
Who brought that forward to the American people?
Andrew Breitbart.
In the days of the Tea Party, the early days of the Tea Party, Andrew Breitbart, over and over again, Code Pink and all of it.
He saw through it with Occupy Wall Street, Code Pink, the color revolution that was coming in our country.
That was Breitbart.
He was the man that cultures up urban politics.
From Gramsci and Frankfurt School, his analysis.
Also, The Chinese Communist Party, the black hand of the CCP, the revolutionary, that's the core, the railhead of the revolutionary movement in this world today.
Whether it's in Brazil, whether it's in the streets of Los Angeles, whether it's on these college campuses, those two, the Frankfurt School, Gramsci, the combination of the radical Jihad and the cultural Marxist left.
It's in America.
This is why CNN's coverage now is irrelevant.
We almost play no clips.
It's MSNBC.
It's Rachel Maddow.
That is the intellectual railhead of this revolutionary movement.
Short commercial break.
Back in a moment.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon
I'm gonna get back to Natalie in a second, but we have Congressman APO Ana Paulina Luna on the phone.
Congresswoman, today at two o'clock there's a incredible massive hearing on the Kennedy assassination, the Kennedy files, and the involvement potentially, maybe, of the intelligence apparatus of the United States government.
My question to you is, why is a young congressman from Florida, an Air Force veteran, why is it fallen to you to kind of lead this, to really expose what the deep state did or didn't do in this?
It's still on the questions we have about President Kennedy assassination, because I would argue that's the inflection point when everything started going wrong in this country.
If you look up into then, it was kind of the great feeling of the end of World War II.
So why has it fallen upon you to do this, ma'am?
unidentified
Well, I'd say, first of all, I have some incredible lawmakers that have joined me in championing this cause and are willing to put, you know, their name and reputations on the line in order to expose the truth.
But really, for the first time, and you are right, Steve, after the assassination of John F. Kennedy, that's when you really start to see the growth and mistrust of the American population with their government and then also these intelligence agencies.
And that's largely because of how the federal government, specifically Congress, handled the investigations looking into what happened with President Kennedy at the time.
So the irony in all this is obviously you would think that this is, you know, not supposed to be a partisan issue, but we're still finding that because of the fact that the CIA was largely, you know, named in these newly declassified documents as either stonewalling investigations Or in some of the documents that we're finding, they actually destroyed evidence.
So, I mean, these are all new facts that the American people suspected, but they never had hard evidence of.
And you're going to see those facts represented to the American people.
I think you're going to see the narrative that the Warren Commission pushed.
Whether nefarious or not, you know, painting a picture, pushing a narrative without presenting all the facts and then omitting evidence, I think is very disturbing.
You know, I've always been about truth and transparency, and at least for the constituents I have in Pinellas County, the number one thing they always ask me is, you know, we want you to help end and fight government corruption.
And so, you know, even to the Democrats on the task force, you know, they're realizing that President Kennedy, arguably one of the most popular presidents aside from Trump in U.S. history, you know, if his own government cannot be forward about what happened, you know, that's a bad precedence for us all.
And so, I'm looking forward to Mr. Morley who will be testifying, to Mr. Stone who will be testifying, that's Oliver Stone, and then also to one of Mr. Stone's researchers.
And we are also going to be doing follow-ups for this, but it's definitely an incredible task that we have at hand, and I just look forward to, you know, helping to represent the African-American people and let them decide.
steve bannon
No, it couldn't be more timely because all these issues now the deep state We've been going through with Natalie for the first 30 minutes of the show all this these issues with this color revolution How did you get this is the superstar panel of folks?
How did you pull this together?
unidentified
You know it started by reaching out actually I was doing some of my own research and I came across mr. Morley's writings and then coincidentally enough I like to call these quantum breadcrumbs and At the same time that I'd come across him about a week and a half later, he actually had someone reach out to my official office and said, you know, my name is Jeff Morley.
I'd be interested in speaking with you about the assassination of President Kennedy.
And so I met with him, and in my view, Mr. Morley is, you know, Bernie Sanders blue, okay?
So he's not a black or Republican.
But on this issue specifically, understanding the implications that this has not just on our republic, but also to the amount of research and history here that all of these, the JFK community as a whole, has wanted to uncover and has been blocked by multiple administrations, whether they're Democrat or Republican until now, this is incredibly important.
So he came in for a meeting.
And then we actually reached out to a few other witnesses, and they would talk to us.
And they were great witnesses.
Some of them had been on the assassination review board, all of that.
But when it came time to ask them to testify, they would say yes, and then they would get cold feet.
And so I still think that there's a lot of, I would say, maybe disappointment in how Congress previously handled this.
But I've let all the witnesses know that we're not putting them on trial here.
We're simply interested in getting to the facts.
And what you'll see is with a fact pattern, it provides a mosaic.
Maybe we don't get a metaphorical smoking, literal smoking gun here, but I think that the evidence speaks for itself when you have the government omitting evidence and you see that the CIA intentionally, you know, tried to undermine Congress's investigations.
I think that that answers the questions that we all had.
And so there's going to be some more interesting testimony that you'll find today.
I don't want to ruin it for, you know, Mr. Stone or for Mr. Morley, but I do think that there'll be follow-up to this, and I just hope that the American people can finally get their own answers.
steve bannon
For our audience, we'll be live-streaming it gavel-to-gavel today, starting at 2 p.m.
Last question, what is your objective?
Where is this going?
Give us a—we have this hearing today.
I'm sure it's going to be explosive.
Where is APL taking this, ma'am?
unidentified
Well, first of all, you guys can also follow on our social media.
So at Rep Luna, we're going to be live streaming there.
But again, we're doing follow-ups.
We actually, I don't want to ruin the testimony because I was just with Mr. Morley and Mr. Stone last night.
But we're going to be doing a follow-up, whether it's an official hearing or more of a roundtable, but with some actual witnesses that were there.
At the assassination of John F. Kennedy that Mr. Stone said that he could actually bring in and connect us to.
And I think those testimonies are important because they were omitted from the Warren Commission's report.
And I think for a long time, a lot of these people wanted to speak, but they were disregarded because of the amount of secrecy surrounding JFK as, you know, kooks.
And I think that that in itself is the problem, right?
You had people that were good American people, regardless of party affiliation, that had something to say, that were there.
Maybe it refuted the official narrative, but they were basically painted in a way that is wrong, right?
Like, we should genuinely want to understand what happened.
What's interesting, Steve, is last night I was on social media, and I saw that there was a video that this really big Leftist, and I don't want to say Democrat, but like actual leftist blogger did and said today, you know, Republicans are going to be hosting a hearing on John F. Kennedy and they're going to try to say that the federal government was involved.
And I said, you know, isn't it interesting how the tables have turned that you have a bipartisan task force that is being led by Republicans that is seeking to find the truth on what happened with the assassination of a Democrat president.
And yet they're still trying to paint this as a conspiracy theory when we're just simply going off facts and declassified documents.
And so it's definitely going to be an interesting hearing.
I think it's probably going to be one of the last few that we have on JFK in history, right?
Because we have President Trump leading the declassified efforts.
I just hope that history reflects that we did right by the American people in these last hearings.
steve bannon
I'm sure it will.
Social media, ma'am, before I let you go.
Where do people go?
unidentified
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steve bannon
Congressman, thank you very much.
We'll see you at two o'clock.
Incredible. Incredible effort right there.
Incredibly important and ties right back to what we're talking about today because that began the long march through the institutions.
Natalie, I know you got some other clips.
We've got about five minutes in this segment, and we're going to have you stick around.
Walk me through.
Go ahead.
You want to toss the clips right now?
Do we want to go to that?
natalie winters
Sure, yeah.
steve bannon
Let's go ahead.
Denver, if you can go ahead and play the clips for Natalie, and we'll bring Natalie back in.
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In this moment of volatile transition, many have turned to this Antonio Gramsci's memorable quote, The fight for open society values today does not lie in recovering the old world.
This is not a crisis that will be calmed down by top-down reforms that will revive all those old structures and multilateralism or nostalgically rebuild that which is broken.
So the task ahead of us It's now to discover a new moral imagination.
Where are the people with the creativity that can shape, design, and build a new world that is yet to emerge?
Where that got started, you know, this is a let a thousand flowers bloom kind of moment where lots of people are going to have ideas and move with them and run with them.
We can't support everything.
We're going to kind of focus in on specific strategic interventions that we think we can really focus on for ourselves.
Just wanted to say that because I know there's some people who are disappointed and wanted to have more there, but we do not have more.
steve bannon
Sorry. Okay, Natalie, first, those three people, the cast of characters, these folks are quite dangerous.
Who are they?
natalie winters
Yeah, I cannot underscore how truly radical these people are.
That's the president of George Soros' Open Society Foundation speaking in South Africa, and that's the two founders of the Indivisible Movement, of course the really premier organizer of the anti-Trump protests, the Tesla protests.
But I think it's important to see, too, as someone who has tracked, watched all the behind-the-scenes sort of organizing calls, They're really desperate because it's very rare that you would see these people Explicitly quoting the godfather of cultural Marxism or but literally admitting that their movement is inextricably linked though These are true pseudo intellectuals called it the thousand flowers movement.
It's a hundred flowers movement, but fact-checking aside That's not something that they usually say out loud right that is saying the quiet part out loud So I think it really is a testament to Not to how desperate they are, I think that's maybe a reductive framework of it, but how intensely they are working to really galvanize and really weaponize their base.
steve bannon
Natalie, we've got a lot more to do on this.
This is amazing work, and you've nailed it.
Indivisible, I think you said two months ago that they're going to be the leading organization in this.
You've got to get to the White House for a briefing.
Where do people go to get more information about all this?
I understand it's an ongoing process of what we're pulling together here, but folks, put this at the top of the stack.
Because this, this and the legal, the judicial, right, what they're doing in this judicial insurrection leading to a judicial coup, these are the shock troops.
And we're going to deconstruct all of this so you know exactly where they are.
And they're coming for you.
You're a pillar, you're a major, I would say, the bearing wall.
of support.
When you talk about pillars of support, the MAGA movement and the War Room Posse is the bearing wall.
And this is a combination of the Chinese Communist Party, of Mao's thought, of the Bolsheviks, of all of it.
The French Revolution coming to the United States.
It's been here for decades and decades and decades.
They have no intention, let me be blunt, they have no intention ever to allow a populist nationalist movement To actually take control and power in this country.
They don't.
They'll let Republican RINO's controlled opposition be a false front and go along for years and years and years.
They'll allow that.
Just like in China today, I think there's 50 or 60 opposition parties.
They're just all tiny parties that don't matter, right?
This is, you know, we're DEFCON 2. We're heading to DEFCON 1 on this.
Natalie, your social media, I know you gotta get to the White House.
Your social media, all of it, ma'am.
natalie winters
I'll quickly tease you with this because I think I'll be back on this afternoon.
That same Harvard Center that's training the Democratic Party now, they were also responsible for training a sanctioned company that was responsible for administrating Xinjiang province and repressing the Uyghurs.
So how's that for the moral imagination of what they want to do to you that the Open Society president speaks about?
Natalie G. Winters, you can see I have all this up on my ex if you want to read through it, watch the videos and see all the documents.
steve bannon
And Natalie, you'll be covering the briefing at noon and we'll see you back on the show at five o'clock this afternoon, live from the White House.
Thank you, ma'am.
Appreciate you.
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And it was Andrew Breitbart that brought Gramsci, the Italian Marxist thought in the Frankfurt School to a working class and middle class audience in the Tea Party.
Let me just read from Gramsci.
Socialism is precisely the religion that must overwhelm Christianity.
In the new order, socialism will triumph by first capturing the culture via infiltration of the schools, the universities, the churches, and the media by transforming the consciousness of society.
Okay.
They're not shy.
It's up in your face.
It's up in your grills.
This is why I'm saying we can't narrow cast what's happening to these universities just to the situation in Gaza and just the situation in Israel.
It's far deeper than that.
Israel is a manifestation of the Judeo-Christian West.
We have to pull the camera back.
And I'm saying for these public ivies, I don't care if Michigan cut the 250 million dollars, it's not good enough.
We need not just the ivy leagues, You need to go to the public IVs at Michigan, at Wisconsin, at Charlottesville, University of Michigan, University of Wisconsin, University of Virginia, University of North Carolina, University of Texas in Austin, Berkeley, we're throwing University of Arizona, and University of Florida.
I'll throw those two in for now.
All those public IVs.
Go to them immediately and say, the billions of dollars we give you, you're not getting a penny, and we want to prove it.
We want to purge, and I mean purge, the faculty senate, the faculty department, lounge, and we want to purge the administration.
We want cultural Marxists out.
Out. We're not going to pay for it.
Taxpayers are not going to pay for this.
Not one of those states can afford the billions of dollars.
They will crumble like Columbia University crumbled.
They will shatter like Columbia University.
Columbia University surrendered in 48 hours.
They will surrender.
Michigan's right now trying to get ahead of it.
Oh, we cut the DEI, we cut the $250 million.
It's not good enough.
There is a dark revolution in this country, and we're gonna put it down.
There's no, no, no, no area for compromise here.
None. I keep telling people, in all the happy talk and guys running around, if you're still got the glow from the inauguration, get woke up.
Up now.
Awaken. This is a fight for this country.
And it couldn't be more evident right now.
And I'm telling you, their goal is to put President Trump into prison and have him die in prison, just like in Bolsonaro.
Just like Le Pen.
If you think differently, you're dreaming.
This is what they want.
They want the Republican Party to be the controlled opposition to run around.
We're gonna do this.
We're gonna cut your taxes.
Look at where this country got because of that.
It was Trump that saved this nation, and it ain't saved yet.
Todd Benzema, tell me about this.
Unbelievable. I know you've done this for years.
You're one of the key reasons that we took the country back, and you're gobsmacked about what's happening at the border.
But now, what's happening in the great war against the cartels, sir?
todd bensman
Yeah, well, tariffs are all the news right now.
Obviously, we're about to, you know, go into, you know, some live tariffs all over the world, and one of them is Mexico.
And this is a good time to point out that Trump's tariffs on Mexico appears to have really shut down fentanyl smuggling, shut down Fentanyl smuggling and let me explain to the United States and let me explain what I mean by that.
It's early.
I don't want to be Pollyannish about this, but the last few months under Trump have led to massive kinetic raids in Mexico in the city of Culiacan, which is the central hub of fentanyl production That is, you know, the product smuggled over the U.S. border.
Well, they've shut that place down.
There were over 100 labs in that city and under threat from the Trump tariffs and a whole bunch of other pressures on the cartel.
We're now seeing the seizures of fentanyl coming in over the border falling by 50 percent in just the last three months.
Donald Trump.
This is huge.
That's the first reversal of a 10-year trend of steady climbing since 2018-2019 of smuggling and U.S. deaths, overdose deaths.
Now, where I'm getting this from, I've got a Daily Wire piece about to post about all of this.
You can read more detail about this incredible achievement.
This is If this holds, the trend holds, this will be an amazing policy achievement by the Trump administration and especially if it translates...
steve bannon
It's huge.
The article is going to be up in Daily Wire.
I'm going to hold you through the break.
Here's the question.
The tariffs have stopped and cut at 50%.
Is the kinetic effort, as they say in Britain during World War II, before Normandy, Is the party on?
Todd Bensman's going to answer that question.
Are we going kinetic to eviscerate and eliminate and annihilate the Mexican drug cartels, the local partners of the Chinese Communist Party and the Chinese gangs?
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