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Episode 4371: Must Be On Offense; Giving Up No Scalps
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laura ingraham
Beryl Howell is an Obama-appointed district judge, I believe in the District of D.C., District of Columbia, and is extremely upset at what he thinks is a series of attacks by the DOJ on the judiciary, saying, when the DOJ engages in this rhetorical strategy of ad hominem attack, the stakes become much larger than only the reputation of the targeted federal judge.
This strategy is designed to impugn the integrity of I guess the DOJ lawyers wanted to remove Judge Howell from the case, citing other what they believed were biased comments.
Your reaction to Judge Howell tonight?
unidentified
We do.
Many judges need to be removed, Judge Howell included, Judge Reyes, Judge Boasberg.
These judges obviously cannot be impartial.
They cannot be objective.
They are district judges trying to control our entire country.
Our entire country in there trying to obstruct Donald Trump's agenda.
laura ingraham
And Judge Bosberg is a busy judge.
He was assigned to the Signal Gate, which is such a ridiculous name, but the Signal Chat case, which is a lawsuit filed by parties, which I'm not sure they have standing to file.
But President Trump calls it disgraceful that this judge, again, who's ruled against you on the Trandaragua deportations.
Laura, he has multiple cases.
unidentified
I guess it's a wild coincidence against Donald Trump and our administration.
And now he has the signal case.
He shouldn't be on any of these cases.
He cannot be objective.
He's made that crystal clear.
You know, these judges are taking personal attacks, too, at many of the cabinet secretaries.
And these judges across the country, and again, they think they have authority, but it's going to be short-lived.
These cases are going to get to the Supreme Court very fast.
We're doing everything we can.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
It's Friday, 28 March, Year Overlord 2025.
A lot to go through today.
We're going to get through it all.
Economics, geopolitics, politics, domestic politics, things that are happening in this country.
There's a couple of conferences.
We're going to go through the intelligence assessment.
It was kind of weak, actually, from the other day.
Nobody really got to that since they were attacking, attacking, attacking.
President Trump's administration, his intelligence officials, and his defense executives, with the target being Pete Hegseth.
We know who the target is.
It's Pete Hegseth, obviously.
And the best defense, as you know here in the war room, is a strong offense.
It's time now to start going on offense.
One of the, they are using the radical federal judiciary.
As the second prong or in this pincer move to try to disrupt then destroy President Trump's second term.
Or, if you want the analogy, like the anvil with the deep state being the hammer.
And they've got these judges that are intruding in every case and particularly the two things that are – well, let's go back.
The theory of the case is quite simple.
The unitary theory of the executive.
We've said this over and over again for the last couple of years.
This is something that was very well thought through, and you had people like Mark Paoletta and Jeff Clark and Stephen Miller and many others.
You know, Bill McGinley, some of these great lawyers, both inside the administration, over the Justice Department, other agencies, and outside.
They talked about the president being the chief executive officer.
of the United States government and therefore had ability, had bandwidth both on personnel and on spending to make decisions, to make executive decisions.
Number two, he's the commander-in-chief of the military and particularly the Uniform Military Services and all civilians associated with national security.
He is the commander-in-chief, the office of the president and the person who resides there.
Whether it's General Washington, Abraham Lincoln, or Donald J. Trump.
Number third, he's chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer of the United States government.
And all these post-Watergate sealing off and hermetically sealing the Justice Department and the FBI from the office of the president, just not according to the Constitution and the way the country set up.
And so whether it's Doge, or whether it's President Trump doing executive orders, or whether it's President Trump taking executive action, or whether it's President Trump in a whole broad scope of things, effectuating and implementing the policies they ran on, they told the American people about.
And they had a time to weigh and measure it.
Four years after the stolen election, with virtually no media support.
You know, all the institutions of the elites in our countries aligned against him.
The American people of every race, ethnicity, gender, religion, voted for him overwhelmingly.
Popular vote, huge blowout in the Electoral College, all the battleground states, huge shift in virtually every district in the country.
And with demographic groups, whether it's African American, Hispanic, Asian, you pick it.
And so now it comes down to time to implement it.
What are they doing?
They're relying principally upon a radical judiciary.
This judiciary is trying to, it's a judicial insurrection leading to a judicial coup, if we allow it.
And we have to go on offense.
We have to go on offense.
There's many ways we can go on offense.
There's legislative ways of going after the budget or really taking a hard look at the budget and really what the operation of these courts are.
Why it costs $10 billion a year and what we should be doing there.
Do we even need all these districts?
Also about legislation, about how broad the mandate can be for these injunctions and TROs.
But principally, I think, is to get these judges in front of people and let the nation see what they've got to say.
They're not impervious to oversight.
We're trying to get Judge Gohmert.
Wrote an incredible piece about Judge Louie Gohmert from Texas.
We're trying to track him down.
He's supposed to be having some technical problems with the judge.
I think Judge Gohmert's a little bit like me.
I don't think he's particularly...
Technically, he's like me.
But I want to go...
Something happened in the University of Texas.
This also ties to something I'll talk to in the second hour about...
These radical universities.
I got Paolo Figueroa, who's going to join me here in a moment, to talk about Brazil, but also about awards being given in the United States to some of these radical judges in Brazil that are trying to put Bolsonaro in prison and therefore have him assassinated.
Judge Gohmert's by phone.
We have Judge Lloyd Gohmert.
So, Judge, people are incensed by these district judges.
Intruding into every space.
Yesterday, you had the beatdown of all the different things President Trump's trying to do to take costs out of the system, to see if there's fraud in the system, to see if the personnel is correct.
These judges are going after his administration, slowing everything down, saying you can't fire people.
They all got to be hired back.
Then you've got the judge in Washington who's intruded into the national security space.
About the deportation of the criminal terrorist gangs, the Venezuelan gangs, back to central prisons in Central America.
Now he's actually been assigned randomly to this situation on the signal chat, I think from a civil suit, but they're already clamoring for criminal charges to come out of that.
What can we do?
Are these folks impervious to any oversight?
I know they have lifetime appointments, quote-unquote.
What can one do?
Because people don't understand to delay is to deny, and what they're doing is delaying, delaying, delaying the executive action laid out in the Constitution that the office of the President can take.
Judge Gohmert.
unidentified
Well, thank you, Stephen.
It's such a pleasure to be talking to you on The War Room.
But look, that's what people have been saying for years, 18 years in Congress.
And on the Judiciary Committee, we were in the majority most of that time that I was there.
And I kept going, guys, we need to call these judges in and question them.
And, well, I don't know, you know.
And we did impeach two judges while I was there in the 111 of Congress, back 2009 and 2010.
One of them had been convicted of sexual assault and was actually in prison, and he wouldn't resign because as long as he didn't resign, he kept getting a paycheck for being a judge while he was in prison.
And so we impeached him, voted out of committee, voted on the House floor.
And the other, from Louisiana, we voted impeachment.
The Democrats were in the majority, and actually Adam Schiff was quite reasonable back in those days.
Before he found out and fulfilled what Stalin said with power dizziness.
But we impeached the judge from Louisiana.
But all of that, the thought was, well, you have to prove that there is a high crime or misdemeanor.
You know, treason, bribery, high crime or misdemeanor.
But stay with it.
That's from Article 2. That talks about the executive branch.
And I've heard you so many times.
You know the Constitution.
Article 1 is the legislative.
Article 2 is the executive branch.
And that's where it talks about, for impeachment, it requires treason, bribery, other high crimes and misdemeanors.
But in Article 3, where it talks about judges, it doesn't say...
That you have to wait until they commit a crime before you can remove them from the bench.
And it does not say that they get a lifetime appointment like everybody says.
It says, and I quote, the judges both of the Supreme and Inferior Court shall hold their offices during good behavior.
That's it.
And when they misbehave, they should be off the bench.
And so I kept saying for all the years, you know, look, guys, let's call them in and question them.
And what we got over and over again was from chairs, why don't we call in experts to talk about whether their behavior is proper or not, whether they're doing the right thing.
We don't want to go open that Pandora's box.
Look, you know, I understand, you know.
People talk about, well, do we really want to impeach because if we do it, Democrats will do it?
Well, that genie's out of the box.
But when it comes to judges, so what if Democrats call Republican judges in to question them?
Judges need to be on the hot seat when they're acting inappropriately and questioned.
And in the Senate, anyway, it takes two-thirds vote to remove them from office.
But, you know, you've been on the hot seat.
It is very uncomfortable.
And to make judges who think they've been impervious to ever answering to anybody, to make them come in and they're on C-SPAN and they have to sit there and ask political questions.
We answer political questions and some of them very probing questions into their misbehavior.
And, you know, like on January 6th, how you can accuse somebody of insurrection when that's not what they were charged with, that's not what they were convicted of, and yet that's what you accuse them of when you sentence them.
Or how could you not recuse yourself?
When you ask a girl for a date and she went and then she refused to ever go out with you and then you were chomping at the bits to get to send her to prison and you won't recuse yourself?
Because, you know, most people never noticed, but in 1948, Congress did pass a law and I know there's an argument that it might not apply to the Supreme Court because...
You know, they were created by the Constitution, but it certainly would apply to every inferior court, because as my constitutional law professor said, we brought, Congress brings every court but the Supreme Court into the world.
We can take them out.
We can change their jurisdiction.
We can, you know, change whatever.
But it says that any judge, justice, magistrate, Disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his impartiality might be reasonably questioned.
And so then you've got this judge that says...
steve bannon
A judge?
Judge Gohmert.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
steve bannon
Hang on one second.
We're taking a short commercial break.
I want to hold the punchline to the other side.
One of my favorite people, long-term congressman Judge Louie Gohmert.
unidentified
From the great state of Texas.
steve bannon
turns on the other side.
unidentified
In America's heart, all...
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon
Okay, the engine room is informing me.
Before all you longhorns get upset, there's University of Texas at Dallas.
Pretty short, not Austin.
More about Austin, because I'm going to talk about these public ivies, which I include University of Texas.
Austin being a public ivy.
Huge, huge firestorm just running about President Trump going after these universities.
We'll get to that.
I want to play this.
I've got a Stefanik clip.
We're going to talk about Stefanik.
This is huge.
Stefanik's now pulled from being UN ambassador.
She's going back there.
She's staying in the house.
But I got Randy Fine.
I'm going to get back to Judge Gohmert and Paolo.
Because these Marxist and neo-Marxist judges are a massive problem in the United States, Brazil, throughout the world.
It's got to be dealt with.
Judge Gohmert's right.
But let me play.
I got Randy Fine, who the president had a town hall.
Let's go and play the package for Randy Fine, and then we're going to bring Randy in to chat.
Let's go.
unidentified
And based on my reporting, there were a couple dynamics at play here that really fueled this decision.
The big one being that there is a special election next week.
As you mentioned, there's two races that are up to fill two of these Republicans that have left Congress early to work for the Trump administration.
And one of those races is a lot closer and a lot more competitive than Republicans thought it would be.
This was supposed to be a seat that Trump won by 30 points, but the Republican candidate there, Randy Fine, is a master.
Passively outraised by his Democratic opponent.
He was really slow to get on the airwaves.
Trump has had to swoop in.
He's doing a telethon hall for the candidate tonight.
The GOP leadership has had to get involved.
And so I think all of that, based on my reporting, has really spooked Donald Trump about the ideas of more special elections, potentially.
You know, Elise Stefanik, if she left, they would have to defend that seat.
And it is slightly less red than the one that you're trying to defend on Tuesday.
That Florida race.
The gentleman there is a Florida state legislator named Randy Fine, who's a Republican, who was sort of going to, you know, cruise to victory in that seat.
chris hayes
His Democratic opponent, I think Josh Whale is his name, if I'm not mistaken.
He's raised, outraised him 9 to 1. But also, you had Rick DeSantis today.
unidentified
Sorry, Ron DeSantis.
Who is that guy again?
You had Ron DeSantis today, basically, like, refusing to say Randy Fine's name.
And already getting out ahead of, like, if he loses, it's not Donald Trump's fault?
I mean, this is a plus 30 seat.
Like, this should not be close at all, in no way, no how.
Yeah, there's definitely a lot of expectation setting going on.
The same message was delivered through the leadership earlier this week during a closed-door meeting where they tried to warn, listen, this is a special election.
It's not the same.
Don't read too much into it.
It is going to be closer than we thought, but this has nothing to do with Donald Trump or the GOP.
And I will tell you, based on other reporting that I had done earlier this week, the candidate himself seems to be very problematic.
He's very polarizing, even amongst Florida Republicans.
Like I said, he didn't get up on the airwaves until recently.
That being said, I am told that Donald Trump, even though they're confident this guy is going to win, Donald Trump does not like this narrative.
He thinks it's making the entire party look bad, including himself.
So obviously they want this candidate to win and to win by big margins, but it's certainly not a good narrative Republican.
We're just a few days away from an all-important special election taking place in your state on Tuesday, April 1st.
And I'm asking you to get out and vote for a true American patriot, somebody I've gotten to know very well, Randy Fine.
Early voting is underway and continues through this Saturday.
So go vote early tomorrow or Saturday or make plans to go on Election Day.
The main thing is to go vote.
But you can do it from now right up until Election Day, and it's going to be Tuesday.
So Randy is an American first champion, always has been, who stood with us.
That's why Randy will always have a very open door to the Oval Office.
He will be there whenever I need him, and he wants to be there whenever we need him.
He wants to be there for you.
donald j trump
Randy will vote to defend Social Security, protect Medicare, cut your taxes, end inflation, fully fund our border.
unidentified
And security agenda.
We have a big, big security agenda, which, as you can imagine, is not easy based on the fact that they let 21 million people into our country.
I mean, so horribly with their stupid open borders policy.
But we're getting them out.
We're getting out murderers and drug lords and everybody else, people that came out of mental institutions.
They allowed them to pour into our country.
We're getting them out.
We're going to slash the cost of insurance in Florida.
Very important.
It's a big problem.
And we will take care of the people in that district and the whole state.
steve bannon
Okay. Randy Fine joins us.
Randy, I think given everything that the president's got going on, it shows what he thinks of you to jump on and do part of your town hall last night.
how to go, sir.
unidentified
Thank you.
alex jones
Thank you.
steve bannon
Do we have...
Just dropped him.
Okay. We'll try to reboot in a second.
Let's try to do it.
Let me bring Judge Gohmert in.
So right now you see, folks, this Florida Six is big.
MSNBC is all over.
At least Stefanik is going to stay in the house.
We need Stefanik for being a firebrand and helping President Trump because, hey, they're coming from President Trump, as we told you they were.
This is why it's got to be fight all the time and offense all the time.
Going on offense, Judge Gohmert, you've made the case.
Now, what are we going to do about it?
What is Judge Louie Gohmert, a Tea Party congressman and one of the leaders of the Tea Party movement, what are you recommending, sir?
unidentified
I'm recommending that the Judiciary Committee and the Oversight Committee, if they wanted to, bring in, but particularly the Judiciary Committee, bring judges in and question them about their behavior because it's Article 3 that applies.
The judges shall keep their offices only during their good behavior.
You don't have to...
And think about the genius of this from the founders.
They're thinking, okay, Article II, the executive branch, yeah, you know what, to remove them from office, you really need to have to prove a crime and have the Senate, two-thirds of them, have to vote.
But you know what?
The judges, we expect more of them.
You don't have to prove a crime.
You just have to prove that they're not acting during good behavior.
But that's not the standard that's ever been used.
There have been 12 judges that have been impeached in the House, only nine convicted in the Senate, and the two that were impeached.
When I was in, that was in 2009, 2010, that was still the standard.
The Democrats were in the majority.
They were using, well, you've got to have a crime.
No, Article 3, Section 1, says they get to only serve during good behavior.
That's the standard.
steve bannon
Okay, but hang on, hang on, hang on.
If that's the standard, are you saying you believe, The Chief Justice in the D.C. Circuit, Boesburg.
Do you believe he rates at least bringing in for an interview in front of, open public interview in front of, and questioning by the House Judiciary Committee, chaired by Jim Jordan, sir?
unidentified
Absolutely. Absolutely.
He deserves to be questioned and questioned very pointedly.
I mean, for heaven's sake.
It looks like he thinks he's God on the bench, and he's not, for heaven's sakes.
He's assumed the executive branch.
And imagine a judge lecturing about, gee, does the president think that he gets to violate the separation of powers?
Well, judge, you just did.
You assumed the executive branch.
Did you not get a civics lesson?
And before the break, I'd mentioned Beryl Howell, the D.C. district judge.
There was a motion to recuse her, to take her off the case.
But she has been so outspoken against Trump.
She even approved a motion by the Department of Justice.
Previously, claiming that Trump was a flight risk, that he would flee from prosecution.
She has been quite vocal in her complaints about President Trump during his first term and the four years afterwards.
And anybody, she said his supporters were sore losers.
She has been...
Very vocal about her feelings.
And in her denying the motion to recuse, she had the gall to say, and I quote, the clear absence of any legitimate basis for disqualification requires denial.
And she said that, you know, everybody deserves a fair impartial hearing.
No, the law requires, and she obviously hadn't read the 1948 law, the law says that She has to disqualify herself if her impartiality might be reasonably questioned.
Oh no, there is no question.
She is not impartial.
She doesn't, and she's completely ignorant of the law.
She needs to be called in and burned on this issue because she's outside the limits of what...
Could be permissible to be impartial herself.
She's got to be called in.
steve bannon
This should be the House Judiciary Committee, correct?
They oversee this process.
Absolutely. So you're saying Beryl Howe, who was the previous chief of the D.C. Circuit, and now the current, the person who replaced her, Jeb Boesburg, both of those should be called in immediately in front of the committee.
Is that what I'm hearing?
unidentified
Yeah, and Judge Deborah Boardman, she said in her order slapping the Trump administration on the birthright citizenship, she said, and I quote, that flouts the plain language of the 14th Amendment.
Had she read the 14th Amendment?
It conflicts with binding Supreme Court precedent.
She hasn't read the Supreme Court precedent because it doesn't.
And runs counter to our 250-year history of citizens by birth.
Did she know our 250 history?
Obviously not.
It doesn't go back to 1775.
So she needs to be called in and questioned.
Hang on.
Hang on.
steve bannon
Okay. Hang on right there.
We're going on offense on a Friday.
Short break.
Randy Fine, who's going to Congress.
And Congressman Brandon Gill, who's in Congress.
With Lou Gohmert, next in the War Room.
unidentified
Okay, welcome back.
steve bannon
Randy Fine finally got our tech issue worked out.
Randy Fine.
So, Randy, let's cut to the chase.
This is now national.
I mean, all night long, they were hammering this, tying it to the Stefanik situation.
We gotta...
We have to win Florida Six.
We have to send you to Congress on Tuesday night.
Walk us through how this audience can help you make that happen.
unidentified
Well, they can do three things.
The first thing is if they live in the 6th Congressional District, they need to get up and they need to go to the polls and they need to vote right now.
Early voting's open today until 5 or 6, depending on what county you're in, and last day's tomorrow.
President Trump did a teletown hall with me last night.
It went great.
But what was clear is he said, go vote, that he needs me there to fight for the Trump agenda.
People can also, if they can't vote, they can volunteer.
There's a link on my website at voterandyfine.com.
That's also where people can find out where to vote.
And they can also donate if they want at voterandyfine.com.
Every dollar we bring is going out the door for voter contact.
But it's vote, volunteer, or donate.
They can do all three at voterandyfine.com.
But honestly, the number one thing we need right now is every single Trump supporter.
Everyone who lives in that district needs to understand that they've got to go and vote.
87% of Republicans still have not voted.
And they need to get up and they have to go out the door and realize that just because Trump is president, not everything is great in the world.
We've got to have a Congress to help them get the job.
steve bannon
Hey, hey, hey, to get this package through, legislative package, to fight off what's happening, what's coming, we need everybody.
We need everybody at the ramparts.
Are there any events today that people can, they get that and go into your site?
I take you're going around the district.
Is there anything special, like a rally tonight or tomorrow?
What's going on?
unidentified
No, I mean, the schedule's being done in real time.
I mean, I'm heading up to St. John's County to do a few things.
I'll be at the Putnam County Fair tonight.
But no, I mean, we're just out.
The big thing we did was last night, and we had tens of thousands of people on a tele-rally with President Trump.
I mean, they can come to my events.
That's great.
But what I really need them to do is take a few minutes, find out where their early voting site is at voterandyfine.com, and then get up and go and vote.
We are picking up momentum every single day.
Every day.
And we're outvoting the Democrats every single day.
We just need to be outvoting them more, putting up big numbers so we go into Election Day strong.
I'm going to win, but it's not just that I win.
We want to put up big numbers so all these numbnuts who are saying, oh, the Trump agenda's on the line, get proven wrong.
It's important that I have a big win.
steve bannon
Amen. One more time, Randy, where do folks go?
unidentified
VoteRandyFine.com.
That's where they can find out where to vote.
They can volunteer.
We're making tens of thousands of phone calls every day.
And then or they can donate.
But VoteRandyFine.com where they can do all of it.
alex jones
Thank you.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
We'll check in with you later in the day.
How's that sound?
unidentified
All right.
That sounds great.
Thank you, sir.
steve bannon
Trump had a great teletown hall last night.
Judge Gormert's on the phone.
I've got Paolo here about Brazil.
Paolo, in fact, Judge Gormert, I know you're – And one of the reasons Judge Gohmert, I've known the judge since Andrew first went to D.C. and subbed the Breitbart Embassy in one of our first guests there, and someone who was frequently there and supported Breitbart.
Andrew personally in Breitbart News was Judge Gohmert.
One of the reasons Judge, and I wanted to have Judge Gohmert on today, is that, you know, he takes personal offense of these neo-Marxist judges that are not...
You know, in the great traditions of the Western rule of law.
And you see this everywhere.
Judge, knowing your proud son of Texas and, you know, all the Texans have meaningful and well-deserved pride in their state as the, you know, even with Florida and others, I would say the leading MAGA state, right? We have Ohio and Florida and have Arizona, some great ones.
The situation, and I want to bring in Paolo.
Paolo, they're, and I said the other day, if we lose the midterms, they're going to impeach Trump, first order of business, because this is what they're running on.
If we, somehow they steal it, or we don't win in 28, they're going to put Trump back on trial.
It's all coming.
These people are radicals.
They know they can't defeat our ideas.
So what they want to try to do is destroy people.
You're seeing this happen right now in this situation with this signal.
They're coming after Pete Hexeth.
The Pete Hexeth of this show defended more than anybody else when they tried to change him out and put DeSantis in.
We said that was going to be a debacle.
Everybody got up on the ramparts.
We had Pete's back and got him confirmed.
And he's doing a great job.
Frank Gaffney being talked about.
We had Captain Fennell last night, Frank Gaffney.
Paolo, this court in Brazil has got Bolsonaro, one of the great men of the 21st century, on trial.
And folks, they're going to put Bolsonaro away because it's totally rigged.
They want him in a prison so he can be assassinated in prison.
Let's be blunt about what's going on here.
Let's not...
I guess it's in Dallas, University of Texas, Dallas.
Did they give one of these radical judges an award?
I just want to make sure, because I don't fully understand this.
Did they give one of these radical Marxist judges an award by some organization in Texas, Paolo?
unidentified
Yes, Steve.
On the following day, they made Bolsonaro a defendant.
The chief justice of the same court, which is the court that's crushing, The populist movement in Brazil came to the United States and got an award from the University of Texas for, quote-unquote, protecting democracy.
And that is absolutely ridiculous.
And it has everything to do with the problems you have been discussing here.
Both of them, radical universities and corrupt Marxist judges.
And this guy, let me tell you.
This guy went to United States universities.
He went to Yale, the law school of Yale, and also he's a visiting scholar at Harvard University.
So no surprise here.
Sometimes I joke that the American universities are like the Wuhan lab of bad ideas to the world.
So they propagate bad ideas to the world.
And different countries have different immune systems.
The United States is trying to fight it because it has a better immune system, but Brazil doesn't.
So Brazil now is being crushed by the judiciary.
Sometimes people think Lula da Silva, the socialist who is the president, is the problem.
And he is, but he's not the main problem.
He was put there by these judges that stole the election that Bolsonaro actually won.
Same way that Trump won 2020 in the United States, and the judges didn't do anything to ensure the election was transparent and fair.
So it's a shame.
What puzzles me is, why is this guy, a radical, still coming to the United States?
Why does he still have a visa?
So in September last year, a few congressmen sent a letter to the then Secretary of State, Blinken, Asking this guy's visas to be revoked.
Obviously, Blinken didn't do anything.
But now we have probably one of the best Secretary of State in the history of the United States.
We have Secretary Rubio.
But he hasn't done anything about this case.
Barely no statement about Brazil.
And that puzzles me.
Last week, he revoked the visas of the Kirchner's in Argentina.
Very smart, very intelligent, very fair.
But now you have these judges that are violating basic human rights, coming to the United States, receiving awards.
What the hell is going on?
Why no one is acting on this?
The Secretary of State, again, someone I love, has the authority to act.
He doesn't need anyone.
And this guy, by the way, is not only a visiting scholar in the university, in Harvard University, but he also has an apartment here in Florida, next to me, in Kibbe Skane.
So, while you guys are smarter than me, you can answer, why has no one done anything about it?
steve bannon
Yeah. Hang on one second when we get to all that.
Judge Gohmert.
You see right there, this is like Hitler with the Nazi judges and Stalin with the show trials in the 30s.
Authoritarians and dictators understand that the way they can bring implementation and control is through these radical judges, sir.
unidentified
Yeah, but when the U.S. brings such people here, that'd be like bringing Hitler's Gestapo judges.
Nazi judges to America and thanking them, that it gives them a level of credibility they should not have.
And, you know, in the case of people that tried to say that Hitler was a guy we could negotiate with, who later apologized, you know, thankfully we won the war.
But we're in a situation where we may not win this war if enough people do not stand up and call this stuff out.
It's spreading worldwide.
And so it is a very, very dangerous situation, and it is much too widespread here in the United States.
I'm proud to be a senior fellow with the David Horowitz Freedom Center.
I mean, David's been calling it out since he converted from being a communist.
He even had a book called The Professors where he named names.
These are radicals in our universities, and people have got to wake up.
But I don't know if you ever read...
William F. Buckley, he's got a man at Yale, but back in the 50s, a year after he graduated, he would say, look, guys, you know, saying academic freedom does not mean that you have to hire people that do not believe in American freedom, for heaven's sake, and yet that's what's been going on for 70 years.
steve bannon
That was one of the biggest reasons that Andrew Breitbart converted from being a West Side Hollywood liberal to being a firebrand of the Tea Party movement was the media and the universities at Tulane, what he had seen there in the American Studies program, which he said, hey, taught him the Frankfurt School of How to Hate America.
Judge, just before we go, the call to action is to call and get on the phone.
Email, text, Judiciary, Jim Jordan, and other people in the Judiciary, that we have to start bringing these judges in for interviews, for questioning?
Is that Judge Lee Gorman's recommendation?
unidentified
That's exactly right.
That's exactly right.
And also, thank you for bringing Fine in.
You know, people have got to get behind him and help him.
And we've got to call the judges in.
We do.
And one more thing.
You know, in those early days, you mentioned...
It was so great when Andrew came and got that little townhouse back behind the Supreme Court, and there was a gathering late one winter night, and a lot of people there having a good time.
And I share with President Trump that I don't drink, and I had a brother that did and lost him.
But come out, you know, wee hours, and come out, and there is Stephen K. Bannon sweeping off the steps.
And I'm going, I knew your background, you know, and your brilliant intellect.
And there you were, sweeping off the steps, trying to make sure everybody got home safely.
And I go, Steve, you're sweeping the steps.
And he goes, got to make sure everybody gets home safe.
I'm going, wow.
This is a real servant intellectual, and I've admired you ever since.
steve bannon
Judge Gohmert, what's your social media, sir?
Thank you.
Social media, website, where do people go?
unidentified
Well, at Rep.
Louie Gohmert is still good on X. Anyway, we'll see.
I'm a senior fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center and you can find stuff there for me.
steve bannon
We love Horowitz.
Love David Horowitz.
Thank you, sir.
We're going to get up on the ramparts.
Judiciary Committee's got to get on point here.
We need to be hauling in some judges, and we need to haul them in next week.
We need going on offense on this thing.
Short break.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen King.
steve bannon
Okay, while we had just a moment ago, President Trump's administration has gone to apply to the Supreme Court.
That's the Supreme Court.
Get involved in this situation with the Alien Enemies Act of 1798.
They want their ass in the Supreme Court.
Will they enforce it?
Make sure they clean up this mess.
I tell you, this is in my question to Jim Jordan and these folks.
Why does it take you so long to get on point on anything?
Why these judges should have been...
Now, President Trump's had to have gone to the Supreme Court.
Why didn't judiciary come in and call this judge in last week and let's grill him in front of the nation to see?
Now President Trump's had to go to the Supreme Court immediately.
So this whole thing, you know, you had the appellate court the other day wouldn't remove Bosberg.
So now they've had to go to the Supreme Court and they're asking for it to be put on the emergency docket, I think.
Trying to get Mike Davis and Julie here to break it all down.
But this thing, I told you, these are...
Metastasizing in front of us.
And it's time to go on offense.
Paulo, I'll talk to you after the show.
We are doing some work to make sure.
Yeah, I don't understand why we have not given how important Bolsonaro is to his country and to freedom throughout the world.
I'm kind of miffed about this.
But where do people go and find out?
You're keeping people up to date.
You and your colleagues 24-7.
We've got to stay on top of this.
This is what they want to do to President Trump.
It's still out there, folks.
Don't think it's gone away.
Just because we won in November, these people are relentless.
They are never going to stop.
Until they're defeated permanently, they're never going to stop.
And we're building an electoral vast majority, a super majority of two-thirds of the country.
You can see what we're working on.
But it's going to take a while.
And we have to go on offense.
Paulo, social media, where do people go to get you, sir?
unidentified
Let me just...
If you'll allow me one second, Steve, I just want to read a quote that goes exactly to what you said.
This is what the Chief Justice of Brazil that was getting an award in the U.S. University said.
We cannot allow ourselves to be contaminated by the negative wave that has spread.
We need to keep the lights on and build dikes against the social and moral regression of these times.
He's talking about us.
He's talking about you.
He's talking about me.
He's talking about the conservative populace.
So, he comes to the United States.
He's talking about Donald Trump.
He's coming to the United States to talk about Trump, badly about Trump, and to treat us as regressions and negatives.
So, you can follow everything on www.paulofigueiredoshow.com.
We have all the news in English there, so you can follow everything.
And you can also follow my Twitter handle, my X handle, actually, at RioPFigueiredo.
steve bannon
Apollo, thank you very much.
Keep fighting.
Your fight is our fight.
You see what the guy said when he came?
He's talking about Trump.
He's talking about this audience.
He's talking about MAGA.
What is going to happen to President Trump if we are to lose is what's happening down in Brazil right now.
They're going to put...
It's a totally gun-deck Moscow show trial.
They're going to put Bolsonaro for contesting a stolen election.
Does that sound familiar?
They're going to put him in prison, and in prison he will be assassinated.
That's what they hope.
That's their plan.
So we've got to get up on the ramparts.
There's fights everywhere.
We've got to get on offense.
President Trump going to the Supreme Court, but I don't know why we are allowing, and Judge Gohmert lays it out, on their good behavior.
The standard for at least calling them in to interview and to grill them.
And to make him defensive of this on a nationwide audience, hey, you watch.
You do that to one, you're going to get a whole lot of all their tough talk.
They're sitting in court disparaging people, what they did to the J6ers, all that tough talk.
That will rapidly evaporate because they ain't that tough.
You saw what happened to Paul Weiss Law Firm.
You saw what happened to Columbia University.
So we've got so much more to go on, but we've got to go on offense.
Offense, offense, offense.
You should not be in the defensive crouch on this ridiculous chat situation.
It's no scalps.
There's a no scalps policy.
Let's just move on.
The raid itself, and there can be questions about do you agree that we should be in the Southern Arabian Peninsula or not, but the raid itself as a tactical evolution looked like it went up pretty well.
There might be some consternation about it.
Was this target right?
Was that target right?
But it was from the carrier strike group's perspective, which is the U.S.'s perspective, it went off flawlessly.
And that should be the standard.
Spencer Morrison, the author of the great book, which is on fire, I think you've sold out the first reshoring, which I absolutely love.
You've got a great piece in the blaze this morning.
As we got through the 20—I shouldn't say we got through.
We announced the 25 percent on autos, President Trump did, from the Oval as a predicate to what he calls Liberation Day, which is next week.
Now, I think the autos kick in the same day as the Liberation Day.
So Liberation Day is going to be on the 2nd.
You've got an incredible piece at the Blaze I would like to get up and make sure Grace and Mo and others, Elizabeth over at Telegram, everybody get it up.
So, and Carly Bonet, if everybody could get, this should be read.
It's kind of a scene setter or an opener for President Trump.
And folks, the fact, hang on, Spencer, I'm going to hold you through the break.
I'm going to give you plenty of runway here.
I don't know if there's anything close to President Trump's heart.
Obviously, building the wall and securing the border.
And getting our sovereignty back, our territorial integrity, everything dealing with immigration and this invasion it took on, obviously very close to his heart.
But the key part is that he wants to rejuvenate America and make America another leading industrial power, the leading industrial power, which we were for decade after decade after decade after decade.
This is what tariffs are about.
Tariffs are a tool.
They're a means to an end.
Geo-economically, as geo-strategically he pivots to hemispheric defense in America First, foreign policy, geo-economically, he wants to return manufacturing, high-value-added manufacturing to the United States to once again make us a manufacturing superpower.
And with that, all the ancillary jobs.
Because a Happy society is built upon great jobs, and President Trump understands that.
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