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So, just for programming, President Trump was supposed to sign the executive orders earlier in the day and it was closed press.
Because sometimes what they do is they film it live to tape and then put it up later.
I hope the White House has solved the streaming problem they had yesterday.
We did notify them.
I think they were looking into it.
Our current understanding is it going to be at...
Six o'clock tonight during our show, the second hour, they are going to have EOs, and we understand they may even make it open to press.
We hope that's the case, and we hope our Brian Glenn's there, but even if not, the press will be there, and President Trump should hold court, so we'll do that.
We've got a lot to go through in the first hour.
We have a great cold open that sets forth what's happened to an incredible day for news and strategic news.
Let's see it.
I'll come in, put it all in context.
unidentified
The president has to hold people accountable when things like this happen.
It is not fair to everybody who puts their life on the line to serve this great country.
It's not fair to them.
So somebody should be held accountable.
It should be the secretary of defense, in my view, in this case.
Pete Hegseth and Mike Walls should resign immediately.
They cannot be trusted to protect our national security.
This week, we saw that they shared classified military attack plans on an unsecure platform with a random journalist included.
Then, they lied to the American people about it and doubled down on that lie even after being caught red-handed.
Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth He recklessly texted operational details of military strikes, including time, place, location, and sequencing of those strikes to a journalist.
Had that information gotten to the Houthis, American pilots could have been shot down, Navy sailors could have been targeted.
His reckless actions endangered the lives of American troops, endangered our national security.
And makes it so that our allies don't want to share sensitive, classified information with us anymore.
Pete Hex said, should resign, right?
And frankly, every person on that chat should resign and never in their lifetime have access to classified material.
Because these morons expose our military with their idiocy of just putting it into a group chat.
And not even, not one of them said...
Hey, who is this other person in here that's not responding, right?
Like, it wasn't like he was pretending to be someone else.
He just, like, wasn't responding.
Ultimately, the buck stops with the President of the United States of America, which is why I made clear to President Trump yesterday in my correspondence that the Secretary of Defense should be fired.
Immediately, if he's not man enough to own up to his mistakes and resign in disgrace.
Sixteen Democratic senators who signed a letter today asking for, frankly, a more sprawling investigative action beyond what we just talked about.
Do you think, ultimately, the reality will lie somewhere in the middle?
Are you more likely to have to, for lack of a better phrase, take what you can get from your Republican colleagues?
Where is this realistically going?
I'm hoping for an even more aggressive, comprehensive investigative effort that will be bipartisan.
This step, asking for the inspector general of the Defense Department to do an inquiry, is a good one.
Very positive, bipartisan step.
But these investigations by inspectors general often take months.
Sometimes years.
And this one has to be prompt, penetrating, and unsparing.
And in the meantime, let's be very blunt here.
There was a likely crime committed under the Espionage Act, under the Federal Records Act.
There should be a criminal investigation.
I think bears grounds for a prosecution, but ultimately the evidence has to be assessed after the FBI, which has a criminal national security unit.
To do an objective and independent investigation that could produce a prosecution.
I also think that both Hegseth and Walsh need to resign or be fired.
Breaking news that the White House is preparing to pull Republican Congresswoman Elise Stefanik's nomination to be ambassador to the United Nations.
NBC's Melanie Zinona broke this story.
She joins us from Capitol Hill.
What more do we know, Melanie?
Yeah, well, it hasn't officially been pulled yet.
We are waiting for a potential social media post from President Donald Trump to officially announce this.
But based on several sources that I spoke to, that is indeed the plan, is that the White House is going to withdraw her nomination to be the ambassador to the United Nations.
And CBS first reported earlier that this was something that was being considered today.
Now we know that is likely to happen and is going to happen potentially within the next hour here.
She reported a few weeks ago that her nomination had been on ice.
And the primary reason at that time was that there was concern from the White House over the razor-thin majorities in the House.
Remember, having her leave would narrow the already thin majority by yet another member until she is replaced in her Senate seat, which could take months.
And there is a Democratic governor in New York where she is from, so it's just really uncertain how long that process would take.
But I'll point out what's slightly different in this case right now, in this moment in time, is that Republicans are set to get back at least two of the seats that have been unfilled over these last few months.
There's a special election next week for two Florida seats.
That's for Michael Waltz, who left Congress to serve as the National Security Advisor.
And then Congressman Matt Gaetz, who also left to try to serve as the AG...
Although he ended up pulling out of the running a few days later.
So Republicans are going to get their margins up pretty soon here.
So the timing about this withdrawal is pretty interesting, to say the least.
But nonetheless, the bottom line is that Elise Stefanik, someone who has been a Trump loyalist, was one of the first members of Congress to endorse Trump after January 6th to run for president.
Someone who's just been behind the president every turn.
She even gave up her leadership post here in the House in order to eventually leave Congress.
I mean, she's been posting all week on Instagram about how she's doing a tribute to all of her favorite moments in the House.
There's supposed to be a toast to her with leadership on Monday night saying goodbye to her.
It looks like she is not going to be leaving, at least for that United Nations ambassador post anytime soon.
Of course, we've got two specials next week in Florida.
Two specials we'll be watching on Tuesday.
Chapin, and there is talk that Democrats think they can flip a seat here.
Republicans in the state think Senator Randy Fine will be all right.
But is that why we're having this conversation?
Because of what's up in Florida?
It certainly is playing a role.
I think you're seeing the Democratic candidate running a little bit stronger than probably anyone anticipated.
So they are, you know, I think the Republicans are ultimately be safe.
But this is the calculation, right?
And they're watching this.
And, you know, per Gene's point, right, a lot of the Trump agenda hinges on congressional support.
I mean, almost all of Doge, right, if they're going to implement any of these recommendations and stuff that's going to come next year, they need a willing Congress.
And you've seen some Republicans like to, you know, have a little independent streak.
Right. So you can't always guarantee on 100 percent in your caucus.
So all of this makes sense to me.
It's it's the right thing to worry about.
It's unfortunate for, you know, Congresswoman Stefanik, you know, having her sights set on the ambassador role.
But getting the president's agenda passed is the most important thing for Republicans in the beltway for sure.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
steve bannon
It's Thursday, 27 March, in the year of our Lord, 2025.
An explosive day on Capitol Hill and through other parts of the world.
We're going to cover it all.
I'm going to replay momentarily in the next block when I have Mike Davis and Captain Fennell join me.
Blumenthal right there, quiet part out loud.
What did I tell you?
There have been crimes committed.
We want a criminal investigation.
They violate the Espionage Act.
This radical judge, as I just said on Eric Bolling's show, He's already inserted himself in this case and asked for all documents, complete document dump, preserve your documents, everything from March 11th to March 15th.
The Senate Armed Services Committee, which is the Committee of Jurisdiction, controlled by Republicans, Roger Wicker, has agreed to a bipartisan, underline that, ladies and gentlemen, bipartisan investigation of this.
More on that later.
I want to go at 6.30 tonight.
President Trump is going to be doing a town hall, a telephonic town hall in the 6th Congressional District of Florida for Randy Fine, the candidate, the Republican nominee.
Randy joins us right now.
Randy, you became an immense interest in the nation's capital today.
Lee Stefanik dropped out.
I want to say, Lee Stefanik did not drop out with Fabrizio's story about being nervous about this.
Two other reasons.
Number one, President Trump needs to have somebody in leadership that will deal with him straight and tell him, particularly on a critical path, what's going on.
Also, Stefanik's by far the best defender he's ever had on Capitol Hill.
Now that Gates is out in San Diego, you almost got to bring her in.
You got to go to the bullpen.
The U.N., we'll talk about the U.N. later.
Randy Fine, this is a dogfight.
Up until Saturday, you can vote early, and then it's game day.
Where do we stand, sir?
unidentified
Well, we've had a good day.
Republicans are coming out.
We've outperformed the Democrats.
But we still have a long way to go.
They've reached 22 percent.
Almost one in four Democrats have voted, but only 13 percent of Republicans have.
Our people are coming later.
And so we need people to get out and vote.
It's almost done for the day in most of our counties.
But tomorrow and Saturday, people can still vote early.
And I'm super excited that at 630, President Trump is doing a teletown rally with me.
And so he's going to make the call, I think, for...
I want people to come out and vote for me as well.
So if they live in my district, if they live in those six counties, I'm actually campaigning.
You can see I'm in a car.
I'm waiting to go into my next event.
But people can go to voterandyfine.com.
They can find out the hours and the locations of their early voting locations in those six counties.
We just need them to get out and vote.
If our side votes, we will win overwhelmingly.
The question is, are they going to do that?
steve bannon
Yes, we're going to make sure they do that, but my understanding on the numbers is that it's been reported that the early vote breaks down 51 Democrat, 43 Republican.
Have we closed that gap at all, sir?
unidentified
Well, no, the early vote, I mean, Republicans are up by seven points, so I don't remember what the exact numbers are, but no, more Republicans have voted than Democrats.
That's not the case.
It's not upside down.
The first day, on Saturday, when you took all the absentee ballots, Which Democrats typically do well on.
And then early voting that day, they were up.
But every day we've made substantial progress.
We're up 5,000 or 6,000 votes, Republican versus Democrat.
So we're moving in the right direction, but we're not moving far enough.
We need to get that number up, up, up if we want to have...
Because I not only want to win, I want to win strongly, compellingly, so people can understand just how popular President Trump remains.
That's why I needed them to get to votereandyfine.com.
Figure out where to vote tomorrow or Saturday early.
There's no reason not to run up the score.
steve bannon
One more time, because people were jacked up after your appearance this morning.
Where do they go?
How do they help, sir?
unidentified
They can go to voterandyfine.com.
They can do one of three things.
If they live in the district, they can find out where to vote.
If they don't live in the district and they want to volunteer, there's a button where they can volunteer.
And if they want to donate, every dollar we're raising is going immediately out the door for more voter contact activity.
So whether it's $5, $10, $20, every dollar we raise will be out the door tomorrow being spent to make sure President Trump's agenda is safe.
steve bannon
Randy Fine, thank you very much, brother.
We look forward to seeing you, Mark.
Good luck tonight with President Trump on the Teletown Hall.
It's going to be fantastic.
Appreciate it.
unidentified
Thanks. Thank you.
steve bannon
Thank you.
Folks, let's get up on the ramparts.
Let's have Randy Fine's back.
He's right.
We've got to run up a big number here.
Stefanik, her nomination for the United Nations poll because We're going to go to general quarters in the nation's capital.
The Senate Armed Services Committee, that you have worked your ass off to make sure it's in Republican hands, agreed to have a bipartisan investigation, and this judge immediately stepped in on this phony lawsuit, civil suit, said save all documents.
You saw Blumenthal right there.
There's been crimes committed.
This has to be a crime.
You see where this is going, right?
You see how they play?
It's time now.
Republicans got to learn how to play Smash Mouth up on Capitol Hill.
Enough of being the wimps.
Short break.
John Kahn takes us out.
Back in a moment, Mike Davis, the viceroy, joins us.
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news from that federal hearing on the lawsuit involving the National Security Team group chat.
CNN's chief legal affairs correspondent Paula Reid is back with us.
Paula, what have we learned from the judge in this case?
So, Casey, we had a decision here.
Judge James Bosberg ordering the Trump administration to preserve all signal messages between March 11th and March 15th.
Now, those dates are significant because those are the dates when Trump administration officials were on a signal chat with a reporter from The Atlantic.
Now, this came after a lawsuit alleging that the administration was violating federal records laws because they're using this encrypted app that has auto-delete features that were enabled by at least one person, one official.
In that chat, it's not clear that they were properly preserving these records.
During this hearing, the Justice Department said it is trying to track down these records and properly preserve them.
And the judge described this decision as a, quote, Now, Casey, Judge James Bosberg, he is an Obama-appointed judge who has come under attack repeatedly in the past few weeks from President Trump.
And just last week, he oversaw a separate case related to Trump's sweeping use of a wartime authority to deport people he says were part of a Venezuelan gang.
Now, what's interesting is during that case...
One of the arguments the administration made was that they did not have to comply with an initial order Bozberg made because he made it from the bench.
So he did an oral order.
They have argued that that didn't carry the same weight as a written order.
So he quit during this hearing that he was going to write it.
Can I stop you for one second and just ask you, because I'm sure this is going to come up right in the Venezuelan case.
The question was, are they going to defy the order?
My question in this case is...
What if they can't comply with it because the messages have been deleted?
Well, there's a process for that.
What I was going to say is he quipped that he was going to put this in writing.
I think it's funny that he's sort of carrying that strand along to this case.
Feels like he has to do that.
I mean, exactly.
I don't know if I'd make a joke in this context.
You could just sort of do it.
But in terms of whether they're going to comply, right now they have to show that they're at least trying because this group would have to show irreparable harm.
And the Justice Department is like, you can't prove that.
We're trying to track this down.
We've tracked down.
Some of them.
Now, if they ultimately cannot reveal these text messages, if they cannot retrieve these, that could potentially escalate this controversy because they could be in violation of these records laws.
Now, usually, that is something that would be referred to the Attorney General.
But at this point, there's no indication that the Trump Justice Department wants to get involved in this at all or escalate it to a criminal matter.
So it's going to be really interesting to see what they put in a status report in the next 24, 48 hours.
Signed a letter today asking for, frankly, a more sprawling investigative action beyond what we just talked about.
Do you think ultimately the reality will lie somewhere in the middle?
Are you more likely to have to, for lack of a better phrase, take what you can get from your Republican colleagues?
Where is this realistically going?
I'm hoping for an even more aggressive, comprehensive Investigative effort that will be bipartisan.
This step asking for the inspector general of the Defense Department to do an inquiry is a good one.
Very positive, bipartisan step.
But these investigations by inspectors general often take months.
Sometimes years.
And this one has to be prompt, penetrating, and unsparing.
And in the meantime, let's be very blunt here.
There was a likely crime committed under the Espionage Act, under the Federal Records Act.
There should be a criminal investigation.
I think bears grounds for a prosecution, but ultimately the evidence has to be assessed after the FBI, which has a criminal national security unit.
to do an objective and independent investigation that could produce a prosecution.
I also think that both Hegseth and Walsh need to resign or be fired.
you you Thank you.
steve bannon
You see the targeting right there?
Crimes, crimes, crimes, crimes.
Both of the judge and now Blumenthal in the investigation.
And they're going to try to pull cash into this too.
Mike Davis.
The problem I have here, sir, is that the feckless Republicans on Capitol Hill are either rolling into this or in the House Judiciary Committee and Johnson will not call up these judges to put them on notice that we're not going to tolerate that.
Mike Davis, your thoughts, first off, where we stand with all this, how this judge got involved, and what's the solution, sir?
unidentified
This is a silly non-scandal.
We have top national security officials.
Using signal, which is end-to-end encryption, to communicate.
This is exactly what the Biden administration directed these highly targeted officials to do, right?
And so we can't expect that these officials can all be brought into a skiff at one time to have these ongoing discussions.
You have the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, the National Security Advisor, and other key...
They have to be able to do their job.
They have to be able to communicate in real time.
And signal is the best thing they have, according to the Biden administration.
So it's not illegal for them to communicate on signal.
It's actually encouraged, according to the Biden administration's pronouncement from CISA, which is the Homeland Security cyber part of the Homeland Security Department.
So that's one thing.
The issue here is that this report somehow got onto this signal chain.
And the Trump White House needs to figure out how this...
We just lost Mike.
steve bannon
Let's get him back up.
I know he's traveling.
Let's go ahead and reboot him.
The courts are going to be the anvil.
The deep state's going to be the hammer.
Here's the state of play.
They had one of these groups file a civil suit immediately.
A civil suit.
Now, this has got Bozberg, who's already inserted himself in the national security and forced the president to invoke the national secrets, the Secrets Act, the State Secrets Act.
To try to back him off, to try to back him off from getting involved in his role as Commander-in-Chief, now he's involved in Signal.
And that's supposed to be random?
And he's inserted himself by requesting all documents.
As they said on the tee-up, oh, that could be criminal.
He could be looking for criminal activity on just a civil matter.
In addition, Wicker of Mississippi, as the...
Committee of Jurisdiction over the Pentagon, as head of the Senate Armed Service Committee, that you worked your ass off to make sure you could get, agreed with Blumenthal and these jackals to open up a bipartisan investigation of this.
And Blumenthal, at the beginning, the ink ain't even dry on it, saying, oh, it's criminal, we have to be aggressive, we have to have a criminal prosecution, crimes have been committed.
Mike Davis joins us again.
Mike, your thoughts?
unidentified
I mean, like I was saying before, Steve, this is a non-scandal.
This is silly.
These top national security officials are encouraged by the Biden administration's Department of Homeland Security to use signal for end-to-end encryption because they have to be able to communicate, right?
And that's what they're doing here.
The mistake that appears to have happened is there was a reporter on the signal chain, likely inadvertently from their perspective, obviously, and so they need to figure out.
How this guy got on this signal chain and corrected so it doesn't happen again.
But there's no crime here.
This was encouraged by the Biden Department of Homeland Security.
steve bannon
What about this judge that's now forced his way in on this civil matter?
And what they're trying to do, I understand they're silly.
The arguments here don't make sense.
But as you know...
In lawfare, it doesn't need to make sense.
In fact, if it's counterintuitive or counter the law, that's all the better.
They use law as a weapon.
This is not a search for truth.
That's what I keep telling people.
This is not a search for truth.
It's not.
They use lawfare.
They use the courts.
They use these radical judges.
They use the process in Congress as a weapon.
And they're damn good at doing it.
And we just seem to be too feckless.
I'd like to know.
I thought we were going to bring judges up this week at the Judiciary Committee to start asking them some questions about their role so far in shutting down every initiative President Trump has, including...
Yeah, that's exactly right.
unidentified
It's just amazing to me that this D.C. Obama judge, Jeff Boesberg, he seems to be the Forrest Gump of this lawfare against President Trump right now.
He just seems to be popping up on all these Trump cases.
I thought...
The D.C. District Court was supposed to randomly assign these cases to these judges.
This doesn't seem very random to me that these two cases that deal with the president, with National Security Matters with the president, it's Bozberg who's getting these cases.
It's just not adding up.
And in response to Senator Blumenthal, there's no crime here.
It is not a crime for the national security officials to communicate.
They were encouraged to do that again by the Department of Homeland Security under Joe Biden.
steve bannon
Okay, hang on, hang on, hang on.
Once again, you're arguing law.
You're arguing truth.
You're in a search for justice, bro.
This is not about justice.
You see what I have to do, folks?
This is not about justice.
This judge is corrupt.
They're not going to stop until we just beat them in November.
Right? We just beat them.
They're not going to stop.
This thing, the courts, the same people that sent all these old ladies and people walking through, as you say, to take a Polaroid in the Capitol, sending them years in prison, are the same guys now in President Trump's grill.
And you've got, and you've lost Blumenthal and this pack of jackals in the Senate now, and he's sent into a criminal investigation.
Well, what I would say is I think the president needs to say the IG is not investigating this.
unidentified
The Justice Department is not investigating this.
My White House team will investigate this and we will rectify this.
Because even if they investigate, what are they going to investigate?
They investigated that these national security officials were using Signal, which they're allowed to do, and there was someone on the signal chain.
Big deal.
All right?
So you make sure that doesn't happen again.
But this idea that, look, I would say this.
You're not going to be able to open a criminal investigation without the Justice Department.
The Justice Department absolutely should not open this investigation.
And frankly, I'm...
I'm stunned that Senator Wicker is participating in this in the Senate.
There's nothing for the Justice Department or the IG to investigate.
steve bannon
Mike, Mike, hang on one second.
I want to make sure people get where they have to go to fight this over Article 3. Short break.
Captain Fennell, Mike Davis, next in the war.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Van.
steve bannon
Okay, the policy here is no scalps.
Number one, nobody deserves it.
Number two, you give them a scalp and they're going to come in.
They get blood in that water.
It's all over.
No scalps.
This goes right back to the confirmations.
Right back to the railhead of that was Pete Hexeth.
We're not going to bend one inch.
Impossible. Mike Davis, people are ready to fight, particularly the Warren Posse.
They are so angry.
That the judicial system, particularly this corrupt court in Washington, D.C., and Johnson and these guys, I don't want to hear about this ISO bill, which is nice, you know, three-judge panel.
That's not the point right now.
The point right now is they're calling judges in and put them in the stand right there and start drilling them with questions, and you're going to have these federal judges give you a different, they're going to give you different opinions, just human nature.
They are.
Today, the Doge guys over the secrets over at Social Security got lit up by this judge.
Lit up.
And it's going to continue until you stop it.
It's going to continue until you stop it.
This is not a search for truth.
These Democrats, they know how to use these courts.
It's the show trials, like the 1930s in Moscow.
Mike Davis, they're ready to fight.
Where do they go, sir?
unidentified
They should go to Article3Project.org.
Article3Project.org.
There is an action item right now where we need to...
Contact both of your home state senators and your U.S. House Rep to impeach and remove D.C. Obama Judge Jeb Boesburg.
I don't care if we don't have the votes in the Senate to do this.
I want to make the process the punishment.
I want this to serve as a deterrence.
If Boesburg is in an impeachment trial, he's not making his illegal order sabotaging President Trump and the presidential team.
steve bannon
100%. One more time.
Where do they go, sir?
unidentified
Where to Article 3?
Article3project.org.
Article3project.org.
You can donate, follow us on social media, take action, action, action, and teach Jeb Bosberg.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Mike, what's your social media?
You're putting up stuff all night.
Where do they go on Twitter?
And get her.
unidentified
MRDDMIA. MRDDMIA.
My initial is Des Moines, Iowa.
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Okay, Mike Davis.
Thank you.
Joining us by phone, Mike Davis.
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I wanted to have Captain Fennell.
So, Captain Fennell, and thank you.
You're up in the middle of the night where you're joining us, but it was important enough that we talked during the day.
I want you, because here is the main thing.
Pete Hegseth is doing the exact job that this audience fought so hard to make sure he was confirmed.
Captain Fennell, give me your assessment, as Pete Hegseth so far, as Secretary of Defense, and particularly making his initial trip.
Out to Guam, as you say, quite symbolic for the main thing, sir?
jim fanell
Yeah, I mean, the Secretary is, I mean, he went to Europe and he told the Europeans they needed to do their share in the first couple of weeks that he was there.
And now he's in the Indo-Pacific, which is the main area of national security threat.
And he's been to Hawaii to meet with the commander of Indo-PACOM, Admiral Papro, and they've talked about the real O plans, the operational plans.
They go into defending our interests in the Pacific.
He's been to Guam, and he's now just arrived in the Philippines.
And there's reporting that there's going to be an announcement that the U.S. will install another second battery of the Typhoon missile system, which is a combination of the TLAM and the SM-6 missiles together in the launcher that basically gives us a...
Surface to surface missile attack capability out to 1,500 miles and a surface to air capability of, you know, 600 miles or so.
And this is a system that's very critical for our allies' defense in the Philippines.
And so what we're seeing is him leading that and coming out on the front end of that to extend President Trump's actions that he did in the first administration when they...
First put the theater high area of defense missile system in Korea defense against the PRC's missiles that could attack South Korea and Japan.
So President Trump is consistent over the two terms that he wants to increase America's defensive posture in the Indo-Pacific and the Far East.
And Pete Hegseth is out there and he's leading the charge.
And oh, by the way, As he was doing that, they're leading strikes into the Houthis.
There's now reporting in the last 24 hours that there's over a dozen tankers and transport planes that have arrived into Diego Garcia, along with at least five to seven B-2 stealth bombers.
So there's a lot going on, and the Secretary of Defense is young, energetic.
He's leading the troops from the front.
And he's energizing recruiting and he's energizing America's focus on, as you and I talk frequently, about the main thing.
So he's in the main thing right now.
He's in the theater and he's reinforcing our alliances with Japan and Taiwan.
He's in the Philippines now, but he'll go on to Japan to celebrate and remember the 80th anniversary of the Battle of Iwo Jima with our Japanese allies.
Who we fought 80 years ago.
So these are very significant events, and he's representing us.
And as you've been talking about, all this hubbub about the signal thing is just really very political, and it's very detrimental to America's national security, especially when no one died in the attacks from our carriers into Yemen against the Houthis here 10 days ago, unlike what happened in August of 2021 when 13 Americans were killed.
With the feckless leadership from the previous administration.
steve bannon
And people should know when Captain Fennell talks, he's one of the most revered naval intelligence officers that's ever put on the uniform.
I want to leave with, you mentioned something.
We had Nigel on here for weeks a couple of months ago about Diego Garcia and the importance of Diego Garcia.
There's something happening.
Diego Garcia has had a lot of activity.
This is open sourced.
It's had a lot of activity.
I mean, you and I might disagree on should we be hanging around the southern Arabian Peninsula, but one of the mandates of the United States Navy is to keep the oceans free, free navigation of the seas.
That's certainly one mission that the two-strike carrier battle groups are doing.
But Diego Garcia is quite interesting, sir.
Tell me your thoughts.
Is the party going to be on?
Is that what you're seeing at Diego Garcia, sir?
jim fanell
It sure looks like something's happening.
And what I find ironic is all the hand-wringing and the sky is falling from all of these politicians in Washington about signal chats that were after the fact or at least after the execution.
They're not saying anything right now about the regular commercial imagery, commercial...
Tracking of aircraft that's available on the internet that people have already found, and we know, as I just said, there's over a dozen U.S. Air Force transport aircraft and refuelers that are in Diego, along with five to seven B-2 bombers.
That's out there in the public domain, and yet I don't hear any of these same people that are screaming about Secretary of Defense should resign are not saying anything about these issues.
We live in the 21st century.
It's not like when I was commissioned in 1986 and we didn't have this technology and you had to go to your skiff in the command center or you had to go on board your ship to get access to the classified information.
We're living in a world where we have commercial satellites that are providing data to everyone.
And so, as Colonel John Boyd said in the 1960s, the OODA loop, observe, orient, decide, and act.
That cycle of OODA loop...
Whoever can do that faster wins.
And so what we have is people that are doing it faster and we're winning.
Now, did we make a mistake in having it on signal and should we reassess that?
Yes. And the President of the United States said it was a lesson learned.
It was a mistake and they're going to make changes.
But to say we're going to crucify somebody over this is ridiculous.
Right now, we have larger things to do and that's to face the reality that the Chinese Communist Party is sharpening their swords.
To essentially attack Taiwan and attack American interests in Asia.
Because to take Taiwan, they're going to attack our forces in the theater to make sure that we can't come in and defend Taiwan.
That is the most lethal threat to us.
We didn't defend or we didn't deter Putin from attacking in Ukraine.
Are we going to deter the PRC from attacking Taiwan?
That's the existential question that should be asked to these congressmen and these senators.
When they're on their TV stations and pontificating.
They're not helping America's national security.
All they're doing is playing political games and everyone can see it.
steve bannon
Captain Fennell mentions the legendary Colonel Boyd, who I happen to know, that had the 9,000-page brief on maneuver warfare.
A legendary guy like you are, Captain Fennell.
Captain Fennell, I guess you don't have social media, right?
Do you have a website?
unidentified
No, sir, I do not.
steve bannon
That's okay.
We'll just keep you here.
Captain Fennell, thank you so much for adding your level-headed discernment into this entire fiasco.
Of course there shouldn't be any investigations.
And to agree to the investigations and not go on full offense.
An individual who spent a lot of time in Taiwan knows what the situation is, but is one of the most astute political observers.
In the nation's capital, Matt Boyle joins us from Breitbart, the national political editor.
Matt, you put out a tweet today about this Elise Stefanik that I thought encapsulated.
Denver can put it up, but I want you to walk through it.
There's much more here than Tony Fabrizio panicking about Florida 6. There's a lot going on, and particularly for this place and time, because President Trump needs a team that he can count on to take action when action has to be taken.
Matt Boyle.
matthew boyle
Yeah, look, I think that this is a sign that the president understands that the radical left and the globalist elite are beginning their attempt to strike back after November the 5th.
Obviously, November the 5th was a huge election victory for President Trump and for conservatives and America First Republicans.
But they did not win the war, right?
Like, they won a chance to win the war.
And I think the president recognizes this in what we're seeing this week from the Atlantic.
This is the first of many likely strikes from those who have been disposed from power by the American public in their desperate attempt to reclaim power.
Is that the president recognizes that to succeed, he needs to have a very strong House majority, as strong as possible, and he needs people in positions.
I think that question's been settled, at least for now, in the broader equation here.
After President Trump endorsement at the beginning of the year, obviously won on the first ballot, and it is what it is.
But the point is that Trump needs somebody on the inside of the House Republican leadership team that he can trust and talk to every day.
That's going to shoot him straight when it comes to how this tax package is coming together.
See you, man.
I mean, the entire agenda rides on this, right?
Like, the president needs this bill to pass, right?
Like, needs the tax details to make it through, right?
He has to extend his previous tax cuts.
And he has to lock in no tax on tips, no tax on social security, and no tax on overtime.
If he delivers on that stuff, right, like along with the immigration stuff, along with the energy dominance, Donald Trump can lock in the greatest political realignment in modern history.
But he needs strong leaders in the House.
unidentified
This is a strategic move, I think, by the president to do that.
steve bannon
Hang on.
There's one more element, too, to your three-pronged strategy.
About her defense in the first impeachment.
Stick through the break.
Matt Bull, a national political editor at Breitbart News on the other side.
unidentified
We will have freedom to live.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
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Matt. Boyle.
Elise Stefanik in 2019 rose to national prominence.
She was a backbencher.
She stepped up one day to the microphone and took charge of defending President Trump against a phony impeachment effort based around, wait for it, Ukraine.
Okay, and Zelensky.
Is that one of the elements?
It's in your tweet.
I think it shows, once again, your wisdom.
How important is it to have Elise Stefanik actually in the House to defend President Trump?
Because he sees right now they're coming for him at every end.
matthew boyle
Yeah, this is where everybody needs to realize we're at war.
We are at war right now with the radical left and the globalist elite, the establishment media, etc.
The party's over, and now the serious work begins.
And I think that the impeachment fight in 2019 made several heroes.
Some of them you see in key places all around the movement and the government.
So, for instance, Lee Zeldin was another one, but he's at the EPA now.
He's no longer in the House.
Devin Nunez, another one.
He's now running True Social and Trump's I think it radicalized her.
And it turned her into an aggressive fighter.
And so as we're getting it from all sides here, and this is just the beginning.
This is just the very beginning, this Atlantic story.
The deep state, the establishment media, they are coming for President Trump.
And they are coming for this movement and this agenda because this movement and this agenda represents a threat to their livelihood.
Both things cannot survive.
Either the movement survives and thrives and prospers, or they do, right?
But they will go extinct.
I mean, they are facing extinction right now from President Trump and his team.
You see it right now with all the teams, all the cuts they're making across the government and everything, and so on and so forth.
All the changes they're making, the deportations they're doing.
I mean, again, we're— They're being sent the way of the dinosaurs.
But the point is that these people, they're not going down without a fight.
And they're going to fight every step of the way.
steve bannon
Let's talk about that.
By the way, Devin Nunez is also the chairman of the President's Intelligence Board, PIAB.
So he's in the bullpen.
Lee Zeldin found the $20 billion Citicorp money laundering operation on the first day was at EPA.
Stefanik's going back to the House.
He's going to be the tip of the spear.
Matt Boyle.
The way to stop this is to stop it.
Why are we not having judges go up before the House Judiciary, Jim Jordan, that team, to actually ask some questions?
I didn't say start an impeachment hearing right now, but have some hearings and collect some information, particularly why Bozberg thinks he can step in and be commander-in-chief and today take some nuisance lawsuit from one of these left-wing groups and all of a sudden he's requesting all documents.
And MSNBC is talking about potential criminal charges.
Coming out of that, why is that not happening, Matt Boyle?
You say we're at war.
Did Mike Johnson, the leadership of the House, understand when you say war, you mean war, sir?
matthew boyle
Yeah, but Bozberg should have already been brought before a House panel and impeachment charges should have already been begun against him, right?
Like, I mean, he's totally out of line, whether, you know, not just on this case, but the previous one with the Trenderagua, you know, him trying to order planes that were already in the air to be returned.
Like, he doesn't have the authority to do that.
He's not elected by anyone.
And so the president of the United States is the elected commander-in-chief.
We have a radical, out-of-control federal judiciary.
There needs to be serious changes and reforms done to this.
It needs to come from the executive branch, from the legislative branch, and frankly, from the judicial branch.
So I would hope that there are courageous people, and I know there's a lot of good judges out there, especially in the appellate system, in the appellate courts, that need to start raining this craziness and insanity in.
steve bannon
Boy, how does Roger Wicker, the Committee of Jurisdiction over the Pentagon, the intelligence guys didn't ask for this.
The Committee of Jurisdiction on the Pentagon and Pete Hegseth working in a bipartisan way with Jack Reed, another radical.
And they got Blumenthal, and Blumenthal already said crimes have been committed, we need a criminal investigation.
How does Wicker, as a Republican in this audience, work their tail off for Wicker?
How does Wicker kowtow and fall into the trap of bipartisanship when it comes to this nonsense, sir?
matthew boyle
It defies logic, but I mean, he's a globalist establishment Republican.
He always was uneasy with...
Pete Hegseth getting confirmed as Secretary of Defense to begin with, because, again, these guys are all, you know, in the pockets of the defense contractors, right?
Like, and so at the end of the day, you know, there's a lot of—we can talk about the Democrats all day, but the Republicans have major problems still inside the Republican Party, and there's a lot of rhinos and, you know, whatever you want to call them, establishment Republicans, rhinos, etc., that need to be removed.
There's good members coming in, don't get me wrong, right?
Like, even the numbers are better than they— Matt Boyle, where do people go to Breitbart, your social media, all of it, the leading political reporter in the nation's capital?
Matt Boyle's got the right stuff.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you changing the schedule around.
We're going to leave you with the right stuff for the first hour.
Next hour, Philip Patrick, we're going to break down this surge in gold globally.
You're going to understand what's driving the markets, not what these high prices are about, what's underneath that.
unidentified
Also, if we're lucky, we're going to go into the Oval Office.
steve bannon
And the 47th President of the United States is going to hold court as he signs some executive orders and takes on all comers in the media.
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