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March 22, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4357: Everyone Talks Tough Till They Get Punched In The Face. Trump Punched Them In The Face
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nicolle wallace
A story I just told our viewers about Columbia University makes concessions to Trump amid bid to reclaim federal funds.
I mean, just that shows that Columbia University is for sale in the time of Trump, just as the law firm Paul Weiss seems to be.
Quote, Columbia University agreed on Friday to make changes to its protest rules, campus security policies, and Middle Eastern Studies Department in a remarkable concession to the Trump administration, which had refused to consider restoring $400 million in federal funding without an overhaul.
What's interesting is if they embarked on their own to do those things, and I'm not at Columbia, it sounds like there was an appetite for that among its own student body, but to do it under duress makes them look so weak.
unidentified
Well, and it seems to come back to the same thing.
It's about money.
Oh, you're going to withhold funding?
Okay, we'll back down.
Oh, Paul Weiss is going to lose clients and it will affect our business?
Okay, we'll back down.
nicolle wallace
Why not just NDEI without Trump?
unidentified
Right. It's one thing if the law firm and if the university, if they actually believe that these are the proper actions to take and those are principled, that would be one thing.
And it's not to say that there shouldn't be changes necessarily to how those protests were handled, and that there were some Jewish students who were on campus who felt unsafe.
It's not to say that they shouldn't be addressing these things, but it's the circumstances under which they're doing it, where, yeah, oh, only when you're going to withhold our funding are we then willing to...
nicolle wallace
As the story is sort of reverberated around the legal community about concerns that a law firm went in and buckled so quickly, Dr. Perkins Cooey was in there fighting and again meeting some receptive legal ears in the judge that reviewed that EO.
unidentified
So, I think this will be not just the first law firm to cower and surrender.
I mean, they're the first, but they will not be the last.
Paul Weiss is a Goliath of law firms.
Like, this is one of the top law firms in the country.
When a law firm that is that powerful and has those kinds of resources at their disposal, when they say, no, we're not up for the fight, even though it's a slam-dunk case and you already have another judge with the essentially same executive order saying this violates the First Amendment,
the Fifth Amendment, the Sixth Amendment.
This is totally unconstitutional.
It's blatant on its face.
When you have that kind of a record and this law firm says no, We're still going to cower.
We're still going to surrender.
That sends a message to all the other Goliaths and all the Davids that you do not want to fight this.
And what I found particularly troubling, there was a piece in Mike's article in his reporting where the White House made a statement saying that when Paul Weiss's chairman went in to talk to Donald Trump, that he acknowledged wrongdoing.
From the prosecutor, their former law firm partner, who then went on to investigate with the Manhattan DA's office, went on to investigate Donald Trump and recommend charges against Donald Trump, that he acknowledged wrongdoing on behalf of that prosecutor and then said that he also acknowledged the grave dangers of weaponization and the need to restore our system of justice.
Now, I don't know, it wasn't clear to me whether or not That actually happened, but I have not seen a statement disavowing that White House statement from Paul Weiss.
That should have been disavowed immediately if it didn't happen, because that is outrageous.
What did Mark Pomerantz do that was so bad?
He left the law firm to go and investigate the former president for crimes and recommended that he be charged with crimes.
And by the way, he ended up being convicted of 34 counts in that case that ultimately went to trial.
So where is the wrongdoing here?
That I found troubling because, look, Paul Weiss can say, look, this is pretty innocuous.
We're agreeing to do things in pro bono work that we already do.
So this is all just...
Not a big deal.
It is a big deal because the reason they were targeted is because of these actions from a former partner and also another lawyer from that law firm who took on a case representing others against January 6th rioters.
They're being targeted.
They're being punished for those democratic causes.
So when you then...
Take a step back and you don't fight the slam dunk case.
You are essentially neutralizing yourself and you're telling others we're not going to take on these potentially illegal actions that this administration is going to take on.
We're going to step back from that.
We're not going to defend against that.
And we are not going to defend others who may need help.
I mean, that is the message that you are sending.
And not only that, you're taking it a step further and you're saying we're actually...
We're actually going to now align ourselves with causes that Donald Trump finds acceptable that are mutually agreed upon.
We are, I mean, you're sending the message.
You're essentially now in his pocket in some way.
And that is so deeply troubling.
You know, it kind of raises the question when you see these law firms, big, powerful law firms backing down, when you see universities seeming to back down, you know, members of the media.
It's like, who is going to meet this moment?
Like, who is going to do it?
Yeah. Mr. Vindman, you're on the list.
The White House put out a statement yesterday revoking security clearances for a number of individuals saying it is no longer in the national interest.
And you are on this list.
Your reaction to the White House naming you in this absurd and very bizarre statement.
Sure, sure.
Thanks for having me on again.
But I'm not a weak-kneed billionaire that could be bullied around.
I'm not a massive D.C. law firm with nearly unlimited resources that could be brought to heel by some empty threats.
I haven't had an active security clearance for five years.
And guess what?
I revoke the president's revocation.
I reinstate my security clearance because it's meaningless.
I mean, it's noise.
It's Friday night theater is what we're seeing here because they're running out of like, you know, really cool plays.
So now they're going digging deep and it's pretty absurd where they're headed.
And frankly, I don't care.
This is not something that's frankly, I'll make fun of it.
*music*
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
I've got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
Mega Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
here's your host stephen k band
steve bannon
It's Saturday, 22 March, in the year of earlier 2025.
There's winning, and then there's winning.
I know some of you are obviously kidding.
Oh, I'm getting tired of winning.
And you see the fights that were in, particularly...
On the legal side, even Department of Education, they're trying to shut down any activity.
That's already going to court.
President Trump, with this judicial insurrection that's quickly becoming a judicial coup, we update you every day on activities related to this because that's really the main front of battle as AOC and Bernie Sanders run around with a cosplay populist Theater.
And of course the Democratic Party is feeling the wrath of what we went through in the Civil War in the Republican Party 14, 15, 16 years ago with the Tea Party revolt.
They're now getting it from their constituents who are even more angry than the people in Congress.
But you talk about significant wins and people being very focused at the White House and outside advisors for President Trump.
Three last night.
And I'll start with two of them.
Number one, Columbia University cratered.
And I mean cratered.
Quickly. To go after this credentialed class that has been the hoplites to destroy the country, destroy this republic, you have to get to the taproot, the source of it.
And that is these out-of-control Marxist universities that was state money and donor money and alumni money.
Have taken these great institutions that have been built in the United States to world-class nature and turned them into Marxist hellholes, essentially.
And many times a combination of what I call the Red-Green Alliance, the neo-Marxism of these left radicals with radical jihad.
Columbia being the perfect example.
60% of the student body are foreign students, which is unacceptable.
Just unacceptable.
For any institution taking...
Taxpayer money from U.S. citizens and being an American institution and really there to serve American citizens and this country.
Columbia, yesterday President Trump went after Columbia, withheld $400 million.
There's no long six-month fight.
There's no two-year fight.
They're not to the barricades.
They fold it almost immediately.
This is a lesson that these institutions that talk so tough and going to be so tough will collapse when you hold the money.
Advise President Trump and talk to President Trump and people in the White House say, get a chokehold on them.
And President Trump, who is a tremendous negotiator and really knows where leverage is, went right to it.
Let me repeat, Columbia University has cratered.
And on the surface, yeah, they're going to hire more security guards who are going to do this.
They cratered.
The White House and Donald Trump broke them, as they should and they have to.
And there are many more out there that have to be like this.
I would actually say this is a call to arms to withhold all federal money from these institutions until they get focused, until they clean out the rat's nest of these faculty senators, until they clean out the rat's nest of these administrators, get all the neo-Marxists out,
clear it out.
American taxpayers are not going to pay for this anymore.
Columbia University talked tough and collapsed immediately.
If you want to change the direction of this country, the one thing you have to do is take on the credentialed class.
Just spectacular victory yesterday.
But that pales in comparison.
This complete and total surrender of Paul Weiss.
Let me just go back and reiterate.
Washington, D.C. is absolutely and totally controlled by these big powerhouse law firms.
New York City, because that's the political capital of the empire and rules over the country, as you know, as an imperial master.
New York City, the financial capital of the world, is essentially run by the investment banks, the hedge funds, where all the hedge fund guys came out of the investment banks, and the law firms.
And the law firms have started to...
Transitioned almost being private equity.
They've merged with private equity and become these entities that are lethal to this nation and this republic.
The combination of this private equity combined with these powerhouse massive law firms.
Paul Weiss revenues was $2.6 billion.
And this is a renowned liberal law firm.
I think it's the first law firm historically traditionally have a Jewish partner work with a non-Jewish partner because back in the Post-war, pre-war, but post-war era.
It was quite segregated.
It had the Jewish law firms and the white-shoe law firms, the Brahmin law firms.
The mix being too dumb to get into the good law schools, so they were working the low-end, the bucket shop trading desk.
Paul Weiss, though, was the leader.
The leader in coordinating, and the partner, I think his head name is Karp.
Was the leader among powerhouse law firms of organizing against Trump.
And these aren't out front guys like Mark Elias or Bob Bauer.
That's kind of more political than Elias.
And when you see people like that, it's that they're powerful in that they get out in front and fight and they can get grassroots and organizations.
The real power, as you always know, is behind the scenes.
Paul Weiss.
Was the railhead in the legal profession of the heavy-duty Wall Street bringing the heat against Trump and everybody associated with Trump.
Number one, to organize that no law firms are going to work for Trump people.
A complete ban.
Number two, to make sure they're organized to take on any policy President Trump, any policy Margaret wanted to have.
This is the hardest and toughest of the tough.
This law firm is a killing machine legally.
Trump broke them in 72 hours and they genuflected.
Karp, understand something.
You went down and humiliated.
I don't know how your partners keep you around.
This is to the 10th power worse than Schumer.
He broke one of the most powerful men in this nation, broke him, and he went down like a little boy, like a supplicant, to beg forgiveness in the White House yesterday.
I will tell you, the folks on Wall Street, I know the Liberal Democrats, they are stunned by this.
Their wins and their wins.
Their victories and their victories.
These two, it gets to the heart of the problem.
Trump is on a roll like no one's ever been on a roll.
To sort this mess out and to set things right.
Short break.
back in the warm in a moment.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
steve bannon
So today is a lesson in power.
Real power.
And this is to get away from all the stupid novels and all the fantasies and people running around with all the conspiracy theories.
This is real power.
Paul Weiss is the intersection of corporate and financial power.
The lawyers are the intermediaries.
Nothing can happen if the lawyers are not involved.
And you pay $1,000, $2,000 an hour.
In fact, the reason they're getting a private equity, they want to get off the clock.
They want pieces of deals.
This is the way America rolls.
They go to these colleges, they go to these schools, you get your union card, you get credentialed, and then you're in the system.
You go to Columbia, you're in the system.
You go to Harvard, you're in the system.
You go to Princeton, you're in the system.
And you move quicker in the system because you've already proven yourself through those years when you were a young kid to get into those places.
Then you compete in those places, you get to the top of your class, you get connected, you get wired in, boom, you go to the next level.
Paul Weiss, behind the scenes, so powerful.
Connecting corporate America, and here's what they did.
The big law firms, with President Trump and his advisors, this has never happened in American history.
This is how they were going to crush the Trump movement on two levels.
Remember the billboards?
If you see something, say something.
Remember those days in January, the dark days?
Let's not just forget President Trump, the Lion and Winner going back to Mar-a-Lago, but the complete assault on everybody.
Down in Georgia, the billboards.
Remember we brought up the film about the Stasi in East Germany.
We used to talk about it other times, the lives of others.
And if you haven't seen that, please get a chance to see that film, The Lives of Others, about people ratting on each other and how the secret police.
That's what 21 was like.
That's what 22 was like.
President Trump and the people around him.
We were debanked.
We were deplatformed.
But you also couldn't get any representation.
You had the Justice Department and all these people coming after you and going to run up millions of dollars.
And committees and the phony J6, everything.
And Trump had nothing.
This is Boris Epstein putting together really a pickup team because every law firm fired you.
And Paul Weiss was at the tip of the spear when he was in the Oval.
Barry Lee in the New York Times article, President Trump brought that up to his face.
Karp, the partners of Paul Weiss are turf you out immediately.
You're a gutless coward.
Behind the scenes, you're a big shot.
You're a tough guy.
You went to eviscerate this populist movement, crush it, to kill it.
Big talking.
All these guys are so tough.
This is why I went to prison.
I was proud of it.
Screw you.
You're not gonna break me.
You're not gonna break Trump.
You're not gonna break us.
We'll spit right in your eye.
You're a big talker, dude.
You went down.
It is a total and complete humiliation for the partners of Paul Weiss and Bill Burke and all the guys that worked with him that tried last week, tried to get Covington and Burley.
Because this all came because they went after the law firms.
I told you this was going to be huge.
They went after the law firms.
Perkins, Coy, Covington and Burley, Paul Weiss.
And they were all going to gang up and do all this stuff.
You did nothing.
You surrendered in 72 hours.
In the power politics of this nation, this is one of the biggest victories ever.
Remember, you talk about the Kennedy assassination, you talk about the deep state, you talk about John Foster, Dulles, Sullivan, and Cromwell.
Go back and just connect.
It's all the law firms.
The law firms are the connective tissues, and the investment banks, and the investment banks.
Where do they all come out of?
The Ivy League schools, into the investment banks, and the white shoe law firms.
It's the reason the global financial capital, New York is senior.
New York's the House of Lords to DC's the House of Commons.
The political apparatus, and this is why somebody the other day was talking, was giving me this thing about, oh, the speech about the populace coming together with the tech people and we got to point the political class.
The political class are basically puppets.
They're doing what they're told.
And most of it comes through the law firms because most of them are lawyers that are going to bounce in and out of the law firms.
The Paul Weiss partners, if you don't cashier carp immediately, it shows you're all gutless.
You're not tough.
When exposed, when exposed, and Trump says he's going to take your security clearance and cut off the money and you can't suck on the government tit anymore, you fold.
Because you're greedy narcissists.
You're not tough guys.
You're not tough people.
You act tough behind the scenes, but once you're at it and put the spotlight on them, you went to the Oval Office and you groveled.
And that's why MSNBC and New York Times, behind the scenes, folks, these liberals and progressives that run this country are in shock.
Because that's their hammer.
That's their hammer.
And they're in shock.
Two, they never thought Columbia or Cola.
They ought to go right now through the entire Ivy League like a sith through grass.
You cut off Maine yesterday.
Remember the governor of Maine?
Big talk.
Oh, I'll see you in court.
Okay, baby.
We'll see you in court.
We're going to cut all your money off first.
See how that is.
Blow out some of this Marxist faculty.
They all talk big because they're all getting government money.
They're getting your money.
Your money to suppress you and your children.
They're all big talk until you expose them.
It's all about money and power.
You cut the money off, you see how much power they got.
They grovel.
Oh, I can't make that payment on that beach house in the Hamptons, man.
I got the wife all over me.
We gotta stop this.
They all talked.
The New York Times lays it all out because the New York Times is in shock.
They talked and said, oh my god, this guy seriously cut us off.
That's going to have a huge implication.
We could be down 30% in revenue.
Paul Weiss, you suck.
And you're a group of cowards.
Your entire professional life, everything you've done.
I hope your children look at you and go, daddy, why are you a coward?
You are cowards.
Perkins Coit next.
Covington Burley next.
Break them.
Break them.
Cut them off from all government money, all government funding.
They said in the filing, they went to court.
We will be bankrupt.
This is 90% of our revenue.
Yeah, exactly.
Trump is so good.
And to give the devil's due to folks around him that have, are now in the Justice Department, some of them, but the rest on the outside.
Magnificent. Not good, magnificent.
To put together a pickup team.
In those years of 21 and 22, and to be ready for the onslaught of 22 and 23, it will go down in history in the legal profession of a change in this country.
No quality law firms.
When Trump had him in the Oval, he said, you, CARP, made sure that no law firm...
I could retain a law firm.
The President of the United States of America, a man that had brought peace and prosperity to this country in his first term.
Think about what 2019 was like.
unidentified
Even think of getting us through the pandemic as well as he could.
steve bannon
Think about if Biden had been in charge.
Would he still be in lockdown?
They got corporate America and the big law firms that represent them and the investment banks.
To try to destroy Donald Trump.
Guess what?
You didn't destroy him.
You did not destroy the people around him.
Although you tried, you didn't destroy this movement.
We're back bigger than ever.
And yes, this is come retribution for the nation.
Not personally.
Not personally.
Trump knows exactly what the problem is.
That's where he got to do the pro bono work.
This is like the reorganization of the FBI or the Justice Department.
This is the public version of what they're doing in the Justice Department to redo it.
Because the lawyers do control the country.
They're the most ill-equipped people to do it.
If you gave me a choice between being governed by the first hundred people that walked into these rallies, one of these rallies or one of these...
You know, a super ballot chase that Scott Pressler and the people in Wisconsin are putting on this weekend.
The first hundred people, the first hundred hammerheads that walked in with a red MAGA ball cap versus the top hundred partners in Paul Weiss to run the country.
That's not even a question.
You pick the MAGA folks.
They have more empathy.
They know more about life.
They have more grit, more determination.
It is the essence of what this country is and what has been handed down to us for 250 years.
And Paul Weiss is the epitome of the modern version of scumbags.
I could do 10 hours on this today and never repeat myself.
He broke.
And this is the lesson.
unidentified
They all talk tough.
steve bannon
What does Mike Tyson say?
Everybody's got a strategy.
They're all tough.
Because they had strategy.
But Columbia's got a big strategy.
They're going to have a strategy, and they're going to hunker down there.
They're not going to fold to what President Trump wants.
Paul Weiss, that guy was calling.
They're going to get all these different firms, like he did before to unite against President Trump.
He's going to unite them again, and Paul Weiss is going to be the leader, and they're going to have Perkins Coie, and Covington Burling, and Quinn Emanuel, and all of it.
They're going to lead a big effort, and they're going to do this, they're going to do this, and then 24 hours later, full frickin' surrender.
We broke them at the polls in November.
They're not that tough.
They will break.
This is about fragility.
This is about resilience.
You are resilient.
Your human agency makes you resilient.
You are tough, handed down in grit and determination.
And they are not tough.
They are soft.
They're whiny.
Look at these town halls.
They're whiny.
They're soft.
They're not tough.
They're not hard.
You want to save this nation, you want to save this republic in this great conflict that we have that's no compromise.
You have to be tough.
I cannot be prouder of President Trump.
He went right to the heart of the beast, and he cut the heart out and ate it in front of him.
Amazing. Short break.
back in a moment.
unidentified
No time to be blind.
Open your mind to see.
We're in a modern day.
Holy war.
Coming after your mind to find your soul.
Oh, all is true.
Modern day.
Holy war.
Battleground, Wisconsin.
I was wondering if I could talk to you for a second.
Door-to-door, Milwaukee's North Side.
I'm out knocking on doors about the upcoming election happening April 1st.
Were you interested in voting?
Losing in November still stings.
Makes Aaliyah Johnson's job even harder.
A lot of people saying, you know, they're not going to vote.
This is old-school canvassing by black leaders organizing for communities in Milwaukee neighborhoods that gave Donald Trump more votes in 2024 than in 2020.
Control of the Wisconsin State Supreme Court is the current battle.
And that can decide things like fair maps, abortion, voting rights.
On paper, this election is Susan Crawford versus Brad Schimmel.
But Block CEO Angela Lang knows it's also a big gut check.
Can Democrats and allies like Block energize voters who stayed home in November?
Can they reconnect with once loyal Democrats who decided to give Trump and Republicans a chance?
People didn't feel that Democrats were addressing the needs and the issues of the average voter.
And I think people wanted to try something different.
And so I think this would be like the first true local test to see if there are lessons learned.
steve bannon
The first local test to see if there are lessons learned.
And folks, this one has massive...
National and international geopolitical impact.
This is the first test case.
And it couldn't be tighter.
This is hand-to-hand, house-by-house.
Let's bring in Bryant Schimming, the chairman of the GOP.
You told us what we had to do in 2024 to win, and you delivered that win with the back, you know, people just, grassroots effort, and President Trump.
But he was on the ballot.
Give us an update right now, because the polling, it's very tough to poll this.
This is a low turnout.
But this went from kind of a dead tie to maybe they're up a couple.
I don't know what's happened in the last couple weeks, and I know this is going to get down to grassroots and turnout.
We've got to lose the districts in, I guess, Madison and Milwaukee by less, and we've got to win.
We've got to have massive turnout in the Trump areas.
Is that basically the theory of the case, Brian?
brian schimming
That is the theory of the case.
About 72% of the vote in Wisconsin is in a triangle from Green Bay to Milwaukee to Madison.
I'm in Milwaukee right now.
I actually just spoke at a national deployment of young Republicans that have come together here at our office in the Waukesha area in the suburbs.
Give you an idea on early turnout.
There were 449,000 ballots sent out.
There's about 193,000 of those sent back.
There's about 279,000 total between in-person and And early ballots in.
So there's 450,000 ballots out there.
So it's really getting to our people.
And we had, as you know, Steve, a major development, literally, in the last several hours, because President Trump came out and officially endorsed Brad Schimmel, the conservative in this race, who's running against the liberal, Susan Crawford, out of Dane County.
We get Trump voters.
From last November to turn out, and the conservatives will take over the court.
We have a 4-3 liberal court.
Right now, one of the liberals retiring, so it's a race for one of the liberal seats.
We flip the court in 10 days if we win.
steve bannon
Let me ask you, just to make sure the audience understands this, because people are going to want to do phone banks, etc., and maybe even go to help canvas.
450,000 ballots, because what's happening between now and April 1st, Election Day, is early in-person voting.
But to do that, can you just show up at a polling place and get a ballot, or do you have to have something mailed to you, absentee, that you fill out and actually take and drop off?
Is that the 450 you're talking about?
That was already the request for early ballots?
brian schimming
Yeah, 449,000 was the request.
193,000 have come back.
We were pretty successful in early vote here in Wisconsin.
As you know, I was a big proponent of early vote.
The president was pushing early vote as well.
It helped us win Wisconsin.
Off your elections.
Wisconsin's a little notorious for more than one reason on some of the voting issues.
But like Michigan, we don't have partisan registration here.
And so you don't have to register as a Republican or a Democrat or an Independent here, which makes it a little trickier.
It makes it tougher to win here.
And so both sides, there's a premium on door-to-door and on ID work and modeling work, all of which we're doing from the state party.
But let's just be honest.
The truth of the matter is we have to get two Trump voters out there and say the truth, which you said before, which is...
This election will decide the success of the second two years of Donald Trump's term, because if we lose here, it may flip.
This Supreme Court, Steve, as you know, I'm an actual Republican from Madison, Wisconsin.
This election will decide two seats in the House of Representatives because this court, on a liberal court, if they stay in control, they will throw out the congressional district maps here in Wisconsin, make it impossible for two Republicans that we do have two of our six Republicans to win.
So literally, it will help flip, for the liberals, it would help flip the House of Representatives against The president, that's not hyperbole, that's not me using scare tactics, that's just a plain out fact.
So if you're a Trump voter in Wisconsin, if you want to help President Trump vote in the next 10 days, it's getting a little late to request an absentee ballot, but you can still do it.
But if you want to make absolutely sure your vote counts, either vote on Election Day or vote early at your local clerk's office, which you can do through next Friday.
Plenty of time.
steve bannon
You're 100% correct.
Right now, the congressional delegation from Wisconsin is 6-2, folks, Republican.
If they win this seat, it stays as a liberal court.
They'll redo, they'll redistrict.
It'll be 4-4, on all likelihood to be 4-4.
Losing those two seats are going to put so much pressure in 26 on California and New York for us to hold those seats, which are always tough.
Now, I know we're going to go on offense, and we're going to have a better economy, all that, but just mathematically, these two seats absolutely could be the key to Hakeem Jeffries, and Hakeem Jeffries is going to impeach the president first days on the job.
That's what he's going to run on.
I want to go back to something, because everybody tells me, Brian, that the problem is low turnout.
These are low turnout votes.
But 449,000 requests compared to...
Isn't this an extraordinary...
Is this a pretty big number of early requests?
And you're saying 193,000 have already been returned, have essentially voted?
Almost 200,000, so you're close to almost half?
When people tell me, well, one of the problems here, it's a low turnout.
That doesn't feel like a low turnout for a super off-year election for a Supreme Court judge, sir.
brian schimming
Right. Yeah, traditionally the total vote can be as...
I mean, we're anticipating about 2 million in this one, which will be higher than what it was in the last two years ago when the court flipped liberal.
So we are expecting a higher turnout here, but it's certainly not the level of turnout that you would have in a presidential year.
Well, hence the importance of President Trump's endorsement.
As you know, Steve, he got about 1.7 million votes here in Wisconsin in winning Wisconsin and turning it red.
I don't want it to turn back blue.
I don't want it to turn back.
And it shouldn't have to.
Your point about the House seats is important because I always say, in fact, I was saying to a crowd last night, a rally I spoke at, look, we've had two members of the House, regrettably, we've had two members of the House pass away just in the last couple of weeks.
I mean, that's two members.
And right there.
And you could lose two members out of Wisconsin separately.
So the importance of this, the point, this is not some fire in the hills somewhere.
It's not just smoke.
It's very, very important for the president to be able to finish his agenda.
If people watching us right now want the president to be able to finish his agenda, this race in Wisconsin is critical, literally maybe half the margin.
To the Democrats taking over the House.
So this opportunity to vote early, even in an off-year election, we do, to your point, we do drop off quite a bit in off years.
But I'll tell you what, Steve, you can't turn on the television in this state without a massive amount of advertising from both sides right now.
You can't turn on the television right now and not have some awareness of this race.
steve bannon
But just like in the 24 race, because we all spend so much, that kind of turns to white noise.
CNN picked it up because they're trying to jack people up on the left.
This is old school door-to-door canvassing, correct?
The way this vote gets turned out is you've got to go and get them.
That's how Trump won in 2024.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
If you're thinking it's going to be close to 2 million and you've got 500,000, let's say, that potential early vote.
You're expecting a million to a million and a half on game day on April 1st.
Do you have the, is the party apparatus, I know you're working with some of the Trump organization and other people outside groups, but do you have an apparatus left over from 24 that can turn out a million people on game day?
brian schimming
Right. I think between ourselves and a lot of the third-party groups that have come in, I mean, I held over a few people.
I mean, usually, like most state parties, after the November of a presidential year, you burn the furniture to keep the building warm.
You lay off anyone who isn't.
Drawn a breath in five seconds.
But we kept several of our field people on it.
Kept six field offices across the state on.
Kept two offices, Hispanic and African-American offices, open in Milwaukee.
We have hundreds of volunteers pounding on doors.
We're doing additional ID and early vote push.
We're at the highest level we've ever been in an off year.
But we can't do it alone.
Other groups have come in, American PAC, AFP.
I mean, so there's a lot of door-pounding going on in this state.
It's always a coalition that wins.
Sometimes some of my fellow Republicans forget that.
But it's always a coalition that wins.
But we can't hit the doors, make the phones, do the digital.
Can't do it fast enough here.
Ultimately, you know, the Schumel people run their own campaign.
But the coalition groups and ourselves are doing everything we can do right now.
steve bannon
The coalition groups.
Brian, where do people go to find out more information about you, your effort, how they volunteer, how maybe they throw your $5 bill or whatever?
Where do people go right now?
People want to get engaged in this.
They understand that it's all on the line in Wisconsin.
And they've seen the furor of this phony AOC, Bernie Sanders cosplay populist roadshow.
So they want to get involved in Wisconsin.
Where do they go?
brian schimming
Yeah, they follow me.
They can follow me on Twitter.
That's at Brian Schimming, B-R-I-A-N, as you see it there, S-C-H-I-M-M-I-N-G.
Follow me on Twitter right away because I'm posting on this race and Wisconsin politics all the time.
So follow me on X. And then they can also contact us at WISGOP, W-I-S-G-O-P.org, or the Schimmel campaign directly at Schimmel for Justice, S-C-H-I-M-E-L for Justice.
We need help from across the country.
If you know people in Wisconsin, if you are in Wisconsin, make a plan to vote by April 1st.
As I said to the rally, I just spoke at it, this young Republican rally.
As I said, what happens, we have people from across the country who are pounding on doors.
And I said, look, this is one where what happens in Wisconsin does not stay in Wisconsin.
Wisconsin was the state to, I'm proud to say, Wisconsin was the state that put president.
Trump over the top at 270 on election night.
Frankly, we have to put it over the top on April 1st for Brad Schimmel.
And this is an all-hands-on-deck nationwide concern because it directly affects the success of Donald Trump.
steve bannon
God bless you, sir.
We've got you back.
Look forward to having you back on Monday.
brian schimming
All right.
Thanks, brother.
steve bannon
Have a power weekend.
This is a guy that's working 20 hours a day.
He delivered in 24. He told us exactly how he was going to do it.
You provided the muscle.
He provided the leadership.
Short break.
We're going to stay in Wisconsin for a On the Deck Plates review.
unidentified
We rejoice when there's no more.
Let's take down the CCB.
K-Bam. Oh.
steve bannon
Oh, okay, we didn't come back.
I'll tell you what, we're going to get Terry Schilling up in a moment.
I can't see Terry right now.
We're going to get Terry Schilling up in a moment to play his ad.
I'm going to have Philip Patrick is going to be here at the bottom of the 11 o'clock hour.
We're going to talk some about the economy and capital markets.
The reason we're going to do that is the Fed came out the other day and the announcement saying they weren't going to do...
They weren't going to cut interest rates further, but they did say they're going to have two cuts the rest of the year.
Buried in that that didn't get a lot of attention was the fact that they had 1.7% growth in forecasts instead of over 2%.
And people should understand that that is quite a difference.
If you back out federal spending, which we always do here, To see what real growth is from the American economy, that means we're already in negative growth and have been in negative growth.
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This will explain everything you need to know, and you can make direct contact with Philip Patrick.
Philip Patrick will be on at the bottom of the hour.
What I want to do also is to, now we got an ad from Terry
Let me play the ad.
Let's play the ad, and then we'll get Terry to join us about Wisconsin.
Let's go ahead and play it.
unidentified
He sexually assaulted a six-year-old girl.
Susan Crawford sentenced this predator to just four years.
Do you regret that sentence?
Yes. I don't regret that sentence.
Susan Crawford has no regrets, and it wasn't the first time.
Susan Crawford has repeatedly gone easy on sexual offenders.
steve bannon
Our children deserve justice.
Not judges who protect predators.
Keep Wisconsin safe.
brian schimming
Reject Susan Crawford.
steve bannon
Okay, Terry Schilling joins us now.
Terry, you were out there for the fight in, I think, 23. Obviously, you were part of the 24 Coalition.
Why is that ad having an impact?
And where do we actually stand in Wisconsin, sir?
unidentified
Well, thanks so much, Steve.
It is incredibly important to voters in Wisconsin.
They don't have a high tolerance level for sexual predators, and they definitely don't have a high tolerance level for people that...
Get these guys leading in sentences.
terry schilling
This whole record that Susan Crawford has on protecting our kids, protecting our communities is atrocious.
unidentified
It's not just embarrassing, it's atrocious.
And we need to make sure that as many voters as possible know about her record here.
terry schilling
And to get her on record, when I watched that clip in the debate of her saying that she had no regrets about those light sentences that she gave to these people, it reminded me of 2021 when Terry McAuliffe had that moment where He said, parents shouldn't be telling schools what to teach.
unidentified
This was a very big moment, I think, in Wisconsin.
And I think now the momentum's starting to shift to Schimmel.
I think we have a great shot at this.
And Chairman Schimming is exactly right.
There is a lot of money being pumped in here.
The TV waves are being flooded.
There are tons of people out there knocking doors.
So we've got a real shot, but it's- What I'm so worried about here, Steve, is it's April 1st, April Fool's Day.
I mean, you couldn't have picked a worse day to have an election, but we gotta get people to the polls and we just gotta bring our family and friends.
There's a great site, 10X the vote that people can go to.
And you can actually refer your family and friends.
You upload your contacts.
They can help you get your family and friends in the polls.
So if you're in Wisconsin, you gotta go to this stuff.
You gotta get out there, bring your family and friends.
This is gonna determine the future of our country and whether or not we control the House of Representatives.
Steve, you guys know that.
I don't need to go into it, but this is such an important race.
steve bannon
Talk to us about the canvassing itself.
I mean, we have obviously on April 1st, you have to have a huge game day vote.
But with these number of ballots out, almost 450,000 early vote ballots have already been sent out.
I mean, going door to door.
And the theory of the case here is we have to lose by less in Milwaukee and Madison and places like that.
And we have to drive the number.
We have to win by more in the Trump country.
And President Trump endorsed last night.
We have to get the Trump voters out.
We have to get those low propensity voters who traditionally just don't vote.
If President Trump's not actually on the ballot,
No, that's right.
unidentified
This election is all about Trump and whether or not we're going to be able to turn this country around.
That's at the heart of it, and that's why the Democrats...
Are investing so much money here is because they know that this is their way to get rid of our house majority by gerrymandering these seats out so that they can just run up the impeachment and hold up Trump's agenda.
We gotta make these, we should be gaining seats, right?
We should not be going back.
We should be gaining seats.
He's delivering on all the promises.
Things are turning around.
We're getting men out of our daughter's sports.
He's punishing the schools and the states that are endangering our daughters.
We have our champion.
They wanna start impeaching this guy and holding up his agenda and thwarting everything.
That's why the Democrats are doing this.
It's so obvious.
Get your butts to the polls.
We're so close to victory.
We can keep going.
But they can't if the Democrats start to gain back power.
There's gonna be such a bad momentum shift.
It'll be a bellwether for the midterms.
It's gonna set the momentum off.
So we've got to get to the polls.
We can do this, though.
We just pulled off the greatest victory of all time with the 2024 election.
It's a miracle, Steve.
We all know that.
This could be the next continuation of this.
We have to protect President Trump because he's protecting all of us, and that's what this Wisconsin Supreme Court race is really all about.
steve bannon
Last night overnight, to talk about having your back, Terry Schilling, he cut all the money off to Maine.
The Maine governor gave him some lip in the White House, said, hey, see you in court about men and women's sports, and President Trump last night dropped the hammer on him.
Give me a minute on that before we go to break.
unidentified
Steve, he's crushing it, dude.
I mean, look, I've been listening to your show and you were going on and on this morning about the law firms.
He's breaking everyone.
He doesn't care.
He's the new honey badger, right?
I mean, he really doesn't.
He's punching these guys in the face.
And the thing is, it's great because they've been the bullies, right?
Like, for the past few years, they've been beating us all up and no one was protecting us.
Trump finally got the bullies.
He's punching the bullies in the face.
It's so great.
I love it.
It's the best.
He's the GOAT, dude.
It's Washington.
steve bannon
It's Lincoln.
unidentified
It's Trump.
That's it.
steve bannon
I finally got more believers.
Go now to Back American Principles Project.
Go to Terry right now.
Go to American Principles Project.
Love you, brother.
Keep fighting.
They're all in Wisconsin.
Was it the Badger State?
And President Trump, I agree.
He's the king of the honey badgers.
The main governor, remember she gave him a little lip in there having the dinner with the governors?
She goes, oh yeah, I'll see you in court.
Hey, hope you can pay for it out of your own pocket because he cut your money off.
The GOAT, the greatest of all time.
General Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Donald John Trump.
Short break.
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