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March 19, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4347: Trump Putin Call, America Responds To Its Enemies In The Red Sea
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jack posobiec
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natalie winters
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steve bannon
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steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
We're going to play.
We've got a really great cold open.
Jack Posobiec joins us.
Natalie Winters is at the White House.
Laura Loomer is going to be here.
Julie Kelly, first hour is totally packed.
Let's get on to it.
Let's get the cold open.
unidentified
For three straight days, the U.S. blitz on Yemen hasn't let up.
The Trump administration first ordered airstrikes on the Iran-backed Houthi militia on Saturday night.
Since then, 98 people have been hurt.
And 53 killed, according to the Houthi-run health ministry.
Officials say women and children are among the dead and injured, a claim NBC News hasn't been able to verify.
A U.S. defense official telling NBC News the Houthis tried to launch two retaliatory strikes against the USS Harry Truman over the weekend, and both were unsuccessful.
An era of peace through strength is back.
We will use overwhelming lethal force until we have achieved our objective.
President Trump today on social media reiterating his warning that Iran will be held responsible if the Houthis do strike back.
Writing, every shot fired by the Houthis will be looked upon as being a shot fired from the weapons and leadership of Iran.
karoline leavitt
Our message to Iran is you better take this president seriously, and I think the Houthis learned that the hard way this past weekend.
unidentified
Iran supports both the Houthis in Yemen and Hamas in Gaza.
In 2023, the Houthis started attacking vessels on a key global shipping route just off Yemen's shores.
In solidarity, they said, with the Palestinians.
Those attacks largely stopped after Hamas and Israel reached a ceasefire deal in January.
But after phase one of that ceasefire expired and Israel blocked aid from entering Gaza earlier this month, the Houthis pledged to renew their attacks.
Iran's Revolutionary Guard commander over the weekend saying, we stand firm against any threat and will respond in the strongest possible way.
A firm, crushing and devastating response.
nicolle wallace
We begin today with a phone call that Ukraine and our allies and those who care about our standing as the world's leading democracy for now have been waiting anxiously and with bated breath to hear about.
Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin spoke for more than an hour and a half today.
Both the White House and the Kremlin have released a readout of the call on their own.
A readout of the call from the Kremlin says that Russia has agreed to a 30-day ceasefire on attacks on energy infrastructure.
The White House also made note of that, saying this, quote, These negotiations will begin immediately in the Middle East.
The White House also touted the potential for economic cooperation with Russia, as did the Kremlin.
It remains to be seen if Russia keeps its word on refraining from attacking Ukraine's energy grid and infrastructure and notably absent from these announcements made after the call were any signs of any concessions from Russia or any talk of any possible punishment for Russia.
In short, there were carrots.
But no sticks.
In just the last few minutes, President Zelensky reacted to that, to news of the phone call.
He said he's open to a ceasefire on attacks on energy infrastructure.
But Zelensky reiterated that talks about Ukraine without Ukraine will not bring results.
He also warned that the Kremlin's demand that foreign aid and intelligence sharing with Ukraine come to an end sought to weaken his country.
Former Trump National Security Council staffer Alexander Vindman called it a, quote, terrible deal, adding this, quote, I don't understand how Trump, who is four years under his belt with Putin, constantly gets played.
Trump moves to normalize relations with Russia for trinkets.
The ceasefire that starts and Russia doesn't violate it disproportionately helps Russia, whose energy infrastructure is getting pounded by Ukraine.
For 35 years, six Republican and Democratic administrations have succumbed to manipulation.
Russia has been extremely successfully dangling small winds and threatening terrible consequences to get the U.S. to compromise and capitulate.
But no one has been played as hard as Donald Trump.
unidentified
I think it's quite clear that Vladimir Putin is a much more skillful negotiator on these strategic issues than Donald Trump could ever be.
And I think what Vladimir Putin is doing is continuing to play Donald Trump and try to sort of tease him along this path where Putin is ultimately going to be seeking a lot of concessions on the part of Ukraine.
And so the question is, what will Donald Trump do as Putin continues to press this issue?
But in my mind, it's clear that there is so much more work that would need to be done in terms of other negotiations, whether it be on ceasefire on the ground or maritime or air or whatever else.
But I think, ultimately, we're going to be looking at what type of terms will Trump agree to?
And I'm not talking about President Zelensky, because I think he is a very principled individual who will oppose anything that smacks of surrender.
But the question is, will Trump be able to stand up to Vladimir Putin as Putin continues to, I think, outmaneuver him on the negotiation chessboard?
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
Mega Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon
It's Tuesday, 18 March, year of early, 2025.
We're going to go to the White House momentarily to our own Natalie Winters.
The president has been signing executive orders, but closed the press.
We won't get that footage for a while, so we'll let you know as soon as we've got the footage, if at all, because I don't think he's doing a press event, but we'll see what he might have just been talking to the White House camera.
We'll see about all that and what the EOs are.
But a historic day at the White House.
Jack Posobiec joins us.
Jack, I want to get into the geostrategic.
Why are we in the Red Sea?
Why do we have carrier battle groups down there?
Why are those carrier battle groups doing strikes in the southern Saudi Peninsula?
But first, the historic phone call between Putin and President Trump.
Nicole Wallace hates it.
Vindman hates it more.
Brennan hates it more than that.
All the haters.
But the person who hates it most, I think, Is Zelensky, am I correct in that gradation, sir?
jack posobiec
Well, Steve, this phone call is nothing short of historic and there's no surprise to me that the globalists and their puppet apparatchiks are clutching their pearls and the Chinese Communist Party is sweating bullets because those people at the higher level,
not the Vindman level or the Nicole Wallace level, they don't get...
The geopolitical grand strategy masterclass that Donald Trump is embarked in right here.
This is...
Look, look, Mackinder...
Emma Hahn didn't mess around with feelings, okay?
They mapped out power.
And that's something that President Trump and his team completely understand, by the way, from the Red Sea to the Black Sea, down to the Panama Canal, looking up at the GI-UK gap at Greenland and all the rest of it.
This phone call where they discussed the ability to have this ceasefire, they've already announced, by the way, a ceasefire on what?
Energy infrastructure.
What have we told you this whole...
The whole thing was about from day one was about energy infrastructure.
Everybody misses.
They say, "Oh, Burisma, Burisma, Hunter Biden."
Okay, but what was Burisma, all right?
It was a Ukrainian.
It's a gas company.
It's always been about the oil and gas products in the Black Sea region, the Donbass, a key area, key geography for this, of course.
And, you know, like I always say on Human Events Daily, the French say chercher la femme.
We say chercher la petrol.
Look for the oil.
Understand what this is all about.
Oil is still king.
That's what Iran is all about.
That's what the Persian Gulf is all about.
That's what the Houthis is all about.
That's what it comes down to.
So when you're looking at a potential geopolitical grand strategy here, look, it is.
And people will say it is all about the rise of China.
You've got three great powers in the world right now.
The United States, Russia, and China.
And President Trump is attempting to effect a second Sino-Soviet split along Kissingerian lines, but in the opposite direction.
Peel Russia away from China.
Why?
Because China is the heartland empire that...
Kinder had warned about that China is attempting to become the heartland empire that controls the world island, who rules the world island, and can then run the entire world.
But you cut Russia off from that, and then you shut down the Middle East, which, by the way, is another discussion that President Trump and Putin, because I read the White House readout and I read the Kremlin readout on this, and they both talked about what?
The Black Sea and the Middle East.
Steve, it's so simple.
The Middle East, that's Mackinder.
That's the World Island.
The Black Sea, what are you talking about there?
It's Odessa.
We've always talked about Odessa, and Odessa is the Mahanian fulcrum of the Black Sea.
If Odessa becomes...
A potential joint ownership or, as the British used to say throughout the 1800s, the 19th century, a treaty port.
If Odessa becomes some kind of treaty port where the Russians and the Ukrainians both have access to it, then that's game over for the Chinese Communist Party in Europe.
That's game over for them in terms of the Belt and Road Initiative through Europe.
That allows the United States to be standing completely in their way.
And President Trump gets that in a way that I think...
You and certainly nobody in mainstream media understand.
steve bannon
Now, in the 19th century, you talk about the great game, one of the great land wars in Crimea.
The Charge of the Light Brigade, Sabastopol, all of it.
In fact, I think it was McClellan was seconded over there as a military observer.
Absolutely huge.
And I would say...
jack posobiec
And in the 1940s, what else is in Crimea?
Yalta.
Yalta, of course, takes place on the Crimean Peninsula.
There's no question.
steve bannon
Also, the...
If you look at the hemispheric defense, don't forget Venezuela, which is kind of maybe the Exxon-Chevron wars for the oil and gas there.
This could very much be about oil and gas.
The Barry Lee today was about, and you could see Nicole Wallace almost spit it out of her mouth, the underlying economic deal that's going to be here.
This rapprochement will very much be based upon some sort of economic relationship between the United States and Russia and between Russia and Western Europe.
Will it not, sir?
jack posobiec
Well, Steve, we've already seen the reports in Bloomberg last week about the US potentially allowing for Gazprom to conduct exploration and perhaps joint deals between Gazprom and maybe Exxon,
maybe some of the other US oil explorers out there.
We also saw some of the Russian assets are now being allowed potentially to be traded again by US bond traders and US asset traders.
A huge piece of it, that coming out as well.
Look, President Trump and Secretary Besant, by the way, that's why Secretary Besant went over there to Kiev with this mineral deal.
They understand that if you tamp down We
don't have...
We're going to need partnerships in this.
So that's what President Trump's strategy is.
It's a win-win-win strategy that allows us to actually, for once, focus on the real picture here.
And that has always been, as we've always said here on The War Room, the Chinese Communist Party.
steve bannon
Jack, I want to hold you through this.
I'm going to go to the White House.
But your book, you wrote a book.
That had made the characters that are coming out to the forefront in it Unhumans.
Where do people get the book?
Because it's probably a more prescient read today than even when you publish it.
jack posobiec
Look, if you want to understand what's really going on right now, every time you look at the news, go to unhumansbook.com.
You can get the signed copy, the limited edition copy, up on Amazon as well.
It still does very, very well on there.
The book is Unhumans by myself, co-authored with Joshua Lysak, and a foreword by Stephen K. Beckman.
steve bannon
By the way, it got to number 9 or 10 on the New York Times bestseller list.
How high did it go?
jack posobiec
It was New York Times bestseller list.
unidentified
I have to check the number off the top of my head.
Okay.
steve bannon
So modest, so humble.
jack posobiec
They tried to keep it off, Steve.
They tried to keep it off, but the war room posse wouldn't let that happen.
steve bannon
They put some muscle to it.
Jack Posobiec is going to stick around.
We're going to talk about Persia and the Houthis.
Natalie Winters is at the White House.
We're going to go there.
Laura Loomer's going to join us.
Julie Kelly's going to join us.
Mo Bannon's going to join us.
unidentified
Wow!
steve bannon
What an hour here!
The 5 o 'clock hour.
The War Room.
Short break.
Back in a moment.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon
We're going to go to Natalie Winters.
Natalie, another historic day at the White House, although a little bit in lockdown because today, through the executive orders, I don't think President Trump had a press avail.
Our Brian Glenn was not there, and he said no press was open.
On the soundcheck, it's pretty noisy there at the White House.
What's going on, Natalie?
natalie winters
Well, I think it's important to underscore that President Trump was actually kind enough to essentially reopen the street that is in front of the White House.
So now tourists and everyone can come up, take pictures in front of the gate of the White House, which I think when you look at the threats that President Trump is facing, it shows you just how, I think, caring he is, right?
Allowing people to actually come and see the people's house, not Joe Biden's version of it, where they kept people at arm's length and very, very far away from it.
But as a result, you can probably hear because it's really loud and it might very well be the largest Palestinian flag that I've ever seen, which gives you maybe just a bit of a teaser of the type of people who are out there.
It's a demonstration that's supposed to start at 7 p.m.
From what I'm hearing from a lot of sources on social media, it's supposed to be a rather large demonstration, I think, in part having to do with what's going on with the Columbia student Mahmoud Khalil being deported, but also, of course, They view the United States continuing to arm Israel as one of their major gripes,
and I guess they're probably just upset, too, about what happened today with President Trump's phone call with Russia.
I also think it's important to underscore, I think, from my perspective, one of the biggest and I think most consequential impacts of that statement that came out of the conversation that they had is the idea that the United States does not just automatically have to be at odds,
at war, have a confrontational position towards Russia.
I think that's something, frankly, you can...
I'll link it back to what happened yesterday, right?
It is the reversal of America's managed decline, whether it's going to the Kennedy Center, rewriting a ship, rewriting the course that people didn't think could be changed around from the cultural aspect.
That same sect of very swampy, culturally elitist people are the people who've made millions of dollars off of the idea that Russia is our most foremost adversary.
Not to say that they're the good guys, but they're also not people that we need to needlessly and senselessly attack, whether it's through think tanks or foreign laundered money at all these groups.
So I think that that...
It was a really, really important kind of buried lead in the statement that came out today, but something that is also really, really ticking off the D.C. swamp crowd.
But I guess that's what we voted for.
steve bannon
You know, on all the clips we looked at today, we couldn't get one clip on mainstream media that was not seething about this phone call.
I mean, the hatred from the contributors to the guests to the host was just coming through.
Was it the same for our beloved White House press corps there, ma 'am?
natalie winters
Oh, yes.
I was just actually in the briefing room.
You know, I like to eavesdrop, listen to all the conversations.
I think as I was walking out, someone just said, it's really tough today.
And they were commiserating and they were very, you know, they got the long faces.
They're all dejected.
No offense.
There's a few of them standing next to me right now.
I think they probably stand in solidarity with a lot of the protesters outside.
So they probably aren't too upset about their shots being garbled by the audio there.
But inside the briefing room, I think a lot of people are not too happy that President Trump dared to engage with, let's be frank, the country that they tried to use as a cudgel and as a weapon to smear him with for years, right?
And it's not just that they did that themselves, but a lot of these media entities, whether it was the OCCRP, all these USAID subsidized journalist organizations, it's all one big racket.
But I guess it was finally exposed today for what it was.
steve bannon
We're going to come back to you on the courts.
I had a USAID, I think, ruling today about everything going on there.
Let me go back to Jack Posobiec.
Jack, there's a lot of...
I'm going to go back to Natalie at the White House in a second, but I wanted to close this with you.
There's a lot of consternation, particularly among the MAGA right.
They're kind of confused about...
Why we got carrier battle groups in the Red Sea?
Why are we keeping the Suez Canal open for the Royal Navy and the French Navy and the Italian Navy?
Why are they not down there?
Why are we so aggressive in this bombardment of the Houthis?
Because it's pretty wild what's going on.
And also in the ether right now is this whole discussion, not just as the Israelis and IDF unleash.
On the Muslim Brotherhood, but there's all these questions now about Persia, about airstrikes on nuclear facilities, maybe ground forces.
A lot of the Maga right are quite concerned.
Of this situation, particularly when President Trump and Caroline Leavitt and everybody's saying, hey, every time we're pounding the Houthis, we're pounding Persia because they're a Persian proxy, which we know.
Your thoughts on that?
Are we getting sucked into, as we're trying to get out of the war on the Eurasian landmass, are we getting sucked into one in CENTCOM in the Middle East, sir?
jack posobiec
Well, look, Steve, there's a couple of elements at play here.
Of course, there's the proximal cause of this being the Houthis being able to effectively close.
The Red Sea to European commercial shipping as well as American, any shipping that we want to have through.
And again, this is about the sea lines of communication going off of all the way back to, look, this is how the British Empire ran things back in the day, right?
The Suez Canal, Strait of Malacca, Singapore, and then going down to the Red Sea itself and all the way around, the Persian Gulf, Strait of Hormuz.
This is why you need to keep the sea lines of communication open.
That is a key role of the United States Navy.
And by the way, has been a key role of the United States Navy since the time of Teddy Roosevelt.
And even going back to Thomas Jefferson instituting, really just commissioning the original United States Navy to go after the Barbary Pirates in the 1700s.
unidentified
But hang on.
steve bannon
I understand that.
But in America First, the Red Sea, the Suez Canal, and coming around...
Outside the Straits of Hormuz.
That's a Middle Eastern or Asian and European issue.
That's not an issue for citizens of the United States.
We've got a trillion dollar defense budget.
I don't understand why we're down there and you've got one British destroyer, one French frigate, and one Corvette.
From Italy.
They're not doing the airstrikes and not putting their sailors in harm's way.
And I tell you, we are eviscerating the Houthis right now, or at least we're dropping a lot of weapons on them.
Why are we doing this alone?
I understand we've historically tried to keep the sea lanes open, but it's a new day.
Why are we down there alone?
jack posobiec
What are the Europeans going to do after they gave all their ordnance to the Ukrainians and the Ukrainians lost all of it and these ridiculous charges like the invasion of Kursk or the counter-offensive of 2023, the rest of it?
Europe is spent.
Europe is broke militarily.
All the Warsaw Pact stockpiles are gone.
The new stuff is gone.
What are they going to actually do?
unidentified
Hold it.
steve bannon
Brother, brother, hang on.
unidentified
Hang on.
Whoa, whoa.
steve bannon
They just, they talk smack, they talk all this smack of what they're going to do with Ukraine, what they're going to do with Russia.
I was on Skype.
jack posobiec
Yeah, I'll buy a bridge in Kirch to sell you for that one.
steve bannon
Well, 10 days ago, I was sitting there telling the host that, hey, all this talk is irrelevant because you guys are close to a sovereign debt crisis.
You can't afford this.
You can't even come close to it.
Since then, Sir Kerr has said, hey, we're going to have to cut social services to support the Ukraine.
And one of the financial figures in the EU said yesterday, he said, look, all these nations are near a sovereign debt crisis.
If they actually went with the French's plan for Ukraine, The United States is getting more and more engaged in another Middle East war,
this one on the Arabian Peninsula, soon to lead back to Persia.
jack posobiec
Oh, look, Steve, this is where, and this is what I was saying earlier.
This is what I was saying earlier.
That's not in the interest of the United States to go to war with Iran.
I was here, what, a week or two ago talking about how the magnitude of a ground war with Iran or any U.S. war with Iran would be just absolutely catastrophic.
It would be far beyond anything that we saw in Iraq or Afghanistan.
It would not serve the interests of the American people.
But, oh, by the way, who has influence over Iran that President Trump might be able to afford a representation?
That's right, Vladimir Putin.
OK, that's why talking about the Middle East, what do you think they're talking about?
Were they just shooting the breeze?
No, they're talking about Iran.
They're talking about the mullahs.
Because what just happened with the mullahs?
They just lost Assad.
OK, so they don't have the Shia Crescent anymore connecting Iran and Iraq all the way to the Mediterranean.
That's gone.
And who didn't back Assad, by the way?
The Russians didn't back Assad at the end.
And the IRGC has publicly rebuked Russia for not backing Assad.
When the headchoppers of HTS were coming down and taking over, by the way, the same headchoppers that are still killing Christians and even CNN ran a report on it just yesterday because it's been so insane.
You heard it about here on The War Room, what, 18 days ago?
We're telling you about, you know, CNN's finally catching up to what War Room talks about on a Saturday morning, just for a little fun over your morning Froot Loops.
But when it comes down to it...
That's why the rapprochement with Russia is so important right now, because he can put the pressure on the mullahs at a time when they're already isolated.
They just lost Assad.
Hezbollah is getting pounded.
Hamas, of course, is being decimated.
We've seen the bombing runs throughout Gaza.
Go look at the videos on Telegram that chart out bodies and cars everywhere.
So this is a time where Iran needs Russia.
And Russia understands this.
Putin understands this.
Trump's going to go to him and say, hey, you're going to yank the chain and put those guys back on the leash immediately so we can put this whole thing to bed and then we'll figure out what we're going to do coming forward.
That's also why, by the way, when I talked about the Gazprom-US deal, and I know the globalists are going to hate me saying this, guess what?
Anything that lowers the price of oil also lowers the ability of force projection for Iran.
It's just that simple.
You want to cut the Houthis off at the knees, lower the price of oil.
steve bannon
Jack Posobiec, how do they get to Human Events Daily?
How do they get to your always-on-fire social media account?
jack posobiec
We're up at Human Events Daily.
We had a great discussion, great Lenten discussion today about the phrase, Christ is King.
And you can check that out wherever podcasts are found.
Human Events Daily.
steve bannon
Christ is King doesn't offend anybody.
That's from the Crusades, is it not, sir?
jack posobiec
It certainly is, and even predates that, but apparently there was one of these left-wing aligned groups and strange names like Jordan Peterson associated with it, saying that there was a problem with that phrase.
It's very odd timing coming in Lenten season, but you know what they say, Steve, during Lent, the Lord challenges us.
steve bannon
Jack Vosovic, thank you for sticking around today.
Fantastic.
Great work.
jack posobiec
God bless.
steve bannon
We're going to go back to the White House with Natalie.
Julie Kelly's got an update for us.
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President Trump just came across the wire, Reuters.
President Trump terminated, fired the two Democratic individuals, members of the Federal Trade Commission.
President Trump, I think, getting tough on monopolies.
He's got a real neo-Brandeisian group there going after big tech.
In fact, Natalie, tomorrow we'll talk about your day at the conference.
But now, whereas the battlefront in the geopolitical war is at sea, in the air, on the land, with troops and weapons, as President Trump tries to bring peace to the Eurasian landmass against the Trump administration
and taking down the deep state and the administrative state is in the courtroom.
Can you give us an update from your perch at the White House, ma'am?
unidentified
Thank you.
Sure.
natalie winters
Well, I just want the audience to know that I...
I was in the belly of the beast today.
I had to deal with all the tech bros, all the transhumanists, listening to them and their thoughts about how they're going to terraform this earth and to comport with whatever crazy ideas they have.
We will discuss that tomorrow because I need an ROI on having wasted hours of my life among all those people.
But two, the issue of lawfare, which of course is the thing itself, which I think at this point, Steve, the question is, can someone please find me a judge who's not an activist?
someone who doesn't actually have any conflicts of interest, either through themselves, their family members, their children, their finances.
And the latest example of this is a judge out in Maryland who just essentially struck down the ability to dismantle U.S.
Well, it's so interesting because Theodore Chang, well, his wife, if you could believe it, was a former vice president, the National Immigration Forum, this far-left George Soros-funded open borders advocacy group that is on record not just It gets worse.
She was also a Biden regime appointee, an anti-racist activist on a bunch of panels talking about anti-Asian hate.
But I'll do you one better.
The judge, who also her name's Ana de Alba, I believe in California.
Well, she's responsible part of a three-judge panel, a tripartite panel, which essentially...
Struck down the Trump administration's ability to fire federal employees, we call them unelected bureaucrats, here in the war room from six different agencies.
If you can believe it, this individual is not just a self-described lefty liberal from Berkeley, but she has actually been on the board of groups that are currently giving Know Your Rights trainings, information to illegal aliens on how to avoid deportations.
But even worse, she's done these training sessions.
In partnership with the consulates in Mexico, Ecuador, Nicaragua, and other countries in South and Central America, she even at one point was counsel.
Working for the Mexican consulate here in the United States, trying to advocate for illegal aliens.
This is someone who is extremely far left and has foreign government ties.
Like I said, I just outlined it for you.
But I think what it all comes back to, and I know you're about to have Laura on, all of these judges are radical activists.
We should frankly stop calling them judges, just like we don't call NGOs charities.
They're not.
They're essentially domestic terrorist organizations.
They're not the mainstream media.
They're the legacy media.
And these judges are partisan hacks and activists.
With so many conflicts of interest, just choose one, and I'll show you how you could force them to recuse themselves.
steve bannon
Natalie, right before we let you go, it's an hour and a half before the 7 o 'clock demonstration, and it's so loud we can barely hear you.
Is this going to be an everyday occurrence?
What's this group?
This group is a pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel group today?
natalie winters
Well, they're almost as bad as the Tech Bros.
No.
Yes, it is a hardcore, militant, pro-Gaza demonstration crowd.
Like I said, the huge flags, the megaphones, the microphones.
There's always protests going on.
Typically, it was more Doge-focused, Doge-oriented on any day of the week.
There's always the sign saying, stop the genocide.
But I would say this is the most, I think, or I would say largest crowd that I've seen forming already.
But like I said, it's supposed to really kick off and heat up at 7 p.m.
steve bannon
Natalie, what's your social media so people can follow you until you're back on tomorrow from the White House?
natalie winters
Well, if I make it home walking past these protesters, you can follow me at Natalie G. Winters on all social media platforms.
steve bannon
No, we've got to show you the side exits to the White House.
Thank you, ma 'am.
Appreciate you.
Natalie Winters.
She drew combat pay today down at the conference.
Laura Loomer joins us.
Laura, talk to me about these judges, what your independent research has found out you've exposed.
And when Natalie says and Mike Davis say that these are really activists in black robes, are they too far off, ma 'am?
laura loomer
Absolutely not.
Activist judges, and I use the term judge loosely because you cannot be a judge and be impartial and be respectful of law and order, and then also be participating in activists and retaliatory behavior, abusing your position at the bench.
And so that's what we've really seen happen.
Just like Natalie was saying previously, Steve, that if anybody could show her a judge who wasn't an activist, it would make her really happy.
Well, you know, I would love to meet a judge or find out whether there's a judge in this country that doesn't have a daughter who has a conflict of interest.
So throughout my investigations throughout the campaign and even now investigating all these judges, it's always the daughters.
They always seem to have either a wife or a daughter who is And in the case of Judge Bosberg, you can see this report that I published exclusively last night on X. Judge Boesberg,
of course, is the judge that made news this week when he decided to issue a restraining order against the Trump administration for their deportation flights when President Trump said that he was going to be rounding up all of the illegal aliens in Train de Agua and shipping them to El Salvador.
And so this judge said that this was not permissible and that the Trump administration was in violation of his court order.
But what he didn't disclose, Wolf, Is the fact that he has a daughter by the name of Catherine Boesberg, who is an employee at a group called Partners for Justice.
It's a 501c3 organization.
And Partners for Justice advocates for criminal illegal aliens.
And they make videos with their founder that she publishes on their LinkedIn page.
And she publishes on Twitter and her various social media pages in which they give.
Legal advice to members of gangs.
And they try to make policy and influence policy against laws that crack down on gang activity because it's racist, in their opinion, to have laws that address gang activity.
And of course, we know that Train de Agua has been designated as a terrorist gang, terrorist Venezuelan gang, foreign enemies, okay, operating here on U.S. soil.
And that is the reason why President Trump wants these people deported, because they're not just illegal aliens, they're criminal, gangster.
This is a now-designated terrorist organization under the new designation of the Trump administration.
And so you would think that it would be a conflict of interest, given the fact that Judge Bosberg's daughter, Catherine, who goes by she-her, I don't know if she's a tranny herself, but she subscribes to the tranny mentality because she has pronouns in her bio, which is further evidence of her affinity to the left.
She works for this group, and she's what they call a capacity building associate.
And so what is a capacity building associate?
Well, in her position, she helps coordinate and administer grant activities, ensuring compliance and supporting the delivery of capacity building programs to strengthen nonprofit infrastructure.
Well, that further...
Just, you know, indicates what an egregious conflict of interest this is, Steve, because this organization, Partners for Justice, receives 76 percent, yes, 76 percent of its funding from government grants.
And so the judge's daughter has a job within this pro illegal alien pro gangbanger organization to facilitate government grants so that they can continue their advocacy for, you know, the best and brightest in our in our country.
All of these great diversity imports in our country who, well, they really aren't sending their best as president.
steve bannon
You think that's a big enough conflict of interest with his daughter so involved with these gangs that he should...
He should recuse himself, ma 'am?
laura loomer
Absolutely.
That's just one conflict of interest.
On top of the fact that it was reported yesterday as well that his wife was apparently a founder of an abortion clinic, an abortion clinic in the D.C. area.
And so she also has donated to various left-wing organizations.
And so you have the political bias with his wife making political contributions to Democrats who are anti-Trump.
And now you have the daughter that works at a nonprofit, a 501c3 organization that has It has videos on its website in which they detail how it's offensive to use terms like gang enforcement.
I actually posted, if you want to play the video, I posted one of these videos from the executive director of this organization.
If you want to pull it up, it's at the very bottom of my Twitter, Steve.
Partners for Justice.
And her name is Emily Galvin Almanza.
She's the founder of Partners for Justice.
Not only employs Judge Bosberg's daughter, Catherine, but she actually made a tweet the other day attacking Tom Homan for defying judges' orders.
That's what she's accusing him of doing, of course.
And also made another post criticizing the Trump administration's deportation of criminal illegal gangbangers in Train de Agua.
And she made another post basically praising Judge Bosberg.
So given the fact that she's making these inflammatory social...
say that that is indeed a conflict of interest that the judge should have disclosed.
I mean, it does say here, and we'll read the clause for you, the
clause for the
Which specifies the circumstances under which a judge must disqualify themselves from a proceeding says, a judge shall disqualify himself or herself in a proceeding in which the judge's impartiality might reasonably be questioned, including but not limited to instances in which,
quote, the judge or the judge's spouse, okay, we already have that with his wife, or a person related to either within the third degree of relationship or the spouse of such person, that's the daughter, okay?
is known by the judge to have an interest that could be substantially a Thank
steve bannon
Okay, we just dropped her.
We'll have to try to reboot her here in a moment.
We've got Julie Kelley going to join us in a moment.
We're going to take a short commercial break here.
We'll try to reboot Laura Loomer.
There's a firestorm today in the courts.
Another ruling against President Trump this time with USIAD.
Julie Kelly's been monitoring all of it, including the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
Roberts came out and was not, how do I say, particularly enthusiastic.
About our efforts on the impeachment side and did not like what President Trump had to say about the judge that Laura Loomer was just talking about.
So we're going to get to all that.
Julie Kelly's been monitoring this all day.
Another huge fight in the courts.
You think they got a huge fight in the Red Sea?
We have almost one as intense, obviously not bloody combat, almost intense in the federal courts as they try to remember.
To delay is to deny, and that's their strategy.
So a lot going on today in the courts.
We're gonna have people in the second hour about Wisconsin.
Terry Schilling's going to join us.
One thing I can tell you is that...
You know, we have to win in Wisconsin.
We need everybody at the ramparts, both on this impeachment and on the victory for the Supreme Court judge in Wisconsin.
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Back in a moment.
unidentified
We know.
So essentially what the judge is saying here is that Elon Musk's attempts to unilaterally dismantle USAID likely violated the Constitution.
And essentially that obviously is as it relates to Elon, but also any of his employees, those Doge employees who helped this dismantling of it.
Now, what's important here is what the judge says.
It's unclear what implications this will have long term.
But what the judge did do is that for any current USAID employees or those on administrative leave, the judge says that essentially the email payment security notification and all other electronic systems, I'm quoting from him here, need to be reinstated.
So, again, while the judge did rebuke, of course, Musk's role within the Trump administration and his role with Doge in dismantling unilaterally USAID,
But surely a rebuke of Elon Musk and his role, which the judge believes is unconstitutional.
The Trump administration is not answering questions from a federal judge in a new court filing this afternoon.
Judge James E. Bosberg had asked the Trump administration for details about a flight that sent more than 200 migrants to El Salvador.
He's investigating whether the White House violated his order.
The DOJ's response didn't answer many of those questions, but they did agree to give more details to the judge personally in chambers.
In the lead-up to that response from the DOJ, President Trump attacked that federal judge, Bosberg, calling for his impeachment and labeling him a radical left lunatic.
That right there triggered the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, John Roberts, to issue a rare rebuke, saying, quote, For more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to a disagreement concerning a judicial decision.
steve bannon
OK, we drew blood from Roberts today, and it was stunning that he commented on this with the president and, of course, the war room, Mike Davis, Julie Kelly, other Star Wars.
I want to put it on perspective.
So much happened today in this.
Let's start with Roberts, though, because I know you share my concern, Julie, that this is you think it's been bad to date.
Did Roberts just not tell these radical neo-Marxists he's got their back, ma 'am?
julie kelly
He did, and this is the second time since Donald Trump was inaugurated that Justice...
John Roberts has signaled that he will side with the recklessness and unconstitutional conduct of these lower court judges.
Of course, he did that by refusing to intercede in that USAID, the other USAID case in Washington, where the judge ordered the reinstatement disbursement of $2 billion in funds.
Of course, the Trump administration putting a temporary freeze on all.
Four and eight.
And this lower court judge, Ali, who barely won confirmation in the waning weeks of the Biden regime, is the one responsible for that.
Chief Justice Roberts, along with Amy Coney Barrett, as we talked about, refused to get involved in that.
So what did Justice Roberts say today?
He stepped way outside of his lane in saying...
As Katie Tour just said, for more than two centuries it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision.
The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose.
This is not a disagreement over a judicial decision.
This is a constitutional crisis that has been created by the federal judiciary that they have been creating for years.
And this speaks to the separation of powers and these omnipotent, unaccountable judges with feeling this sense of moral superiority that they are the rule makers in Washington, not interlopers like Donald Trump and his officials and his voters,
that they are the ones who make the rules.
And this is a core constitutional crisis and issue.
It is not Chief Justice John Roberts' place to say whether impeachment is appropriate or not.
That is a matter, of course, for Congress.
Steve, the crisis here, the problem with impeachment over the past two centuries is that it's been used a handful of times.
I think there are 14 judges who faced impeachment.
I think only eight federal judges have ever been convicted.
The last time that happened...
I think it was 30 years ago.
The problem is not warning or threatening to use impeachment.
The problem is that Congress has abdicated its constitutional role in overseeing the judicial branch.
So impeachment is totally appropriate, especially with judges, and Bosberg is one.
You and I have talked about several others, including his predecessor, the former Chief Judge Beryl Howell.
For their really lawless decisions and clear politicking from the bench.
And this is just Bosberg's latest example.
But John Roberts just gave these lower court judges a big green light, and they are just going to accelerate their conduct now in flagrantly undermining.
The, as Mike Davis would say, Article 2 authority of the president and his entire domestic and now foreign policy agenda.
steve bannon
He essentially, with all the options he had, and as early as we are in this, he knew what he was doing, and he did this on purpose to strengthen them.
Did he not, ma 'am?
julie kelly
He absolutely did.
I mean, this...
This statement really doesn't make any sense.
Appropriate disagreement goes to a normal appellate review process.
Okay, but this is not, as I said, a normal judicial decision.
But he's again saying, well, then you go to appeal it.
Okay, but the judicial branch then is still in charge.
Is he really saying that the president has to abide by a single, unelected judge?
With a record of partisanship, who has a lifetime appointment totally insulated from any culpability, either impeachment-wise or being tossed out of office?
Is he really suggesting that somehow the appellate review process is going to give the president appropriate relief?
It's absolutely absurd.
It's laughable.
Sometimes you have to wonder, how did these people even graduate from law school, let alone be the highest judge in the country?
This is stupid.
I mean, there's no other word to describe it.
It's just a stupid thing to say.
But to your point, he knows exactly what he's doing.
unidentified
He's telling these judges, go right ahead.
steve bannon
Yes.
This is only going to get worse from here, folks.
Only worse.
Julie, hang on, because we have a lot more developments today in the lawfare department.
Just absolutely incredible.
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