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March 12, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4332: The Populous Remains The Leaders Of The Market; Countdown To Victory In Wisconsin
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brian schimming
08:24
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steve bannon
33:37
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catharine oneill gillihan
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mike lindell
01:04
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ray dalio
00:09
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unidentified
I think the first thing is the debt issue.
We have a very severe supply-demand problem.
So we think there's debt, and some people think, oh, we'll handle it because we've handled it so far.
I don't think they understand the mechanics of debt.
By the way, I've written the draft of a book that anybody can see on social media, particularly on LinkedIn.
That goes through the mechanics of the debt.
ray dalio
But there's a supply-demand problem so that they have to sell a quantity of debt that the world is not going to want to buy.
unidentified
And that's a set of circumstances that is imminent.
Okay?
That's paramount importance.
Then we're going to have to deal...
The deficit must go from what will be projected now to be about 7.2% of GDP. Wait, what do you mean?
Austerity?
like that?
There are there are many what do you do when you don't have an adequate supply demand balance?
There may be restructurings of debt.
There may be exerting pressures on countries to own the debt, to buy the debt.
Political pressures on countries.
There may be cutting the payments to some creditor countries off for political reasons and so on.
There may be monetizations of debt.
If you look at history and see the repeating of what do countries do when they're in this kind of situation, there are lessons from history that repeat.
And so just as we're seeing political and geopolitical shifts that seem unimaginable to a lot of people, to most people, if you just look at history, you'll see these things repeating over and over again.
So you will be surprised.
We will be surprised by some of the developments that will seem equally shocking as those developments that we've seen.
So when I look at it, I think that these are of paramount importance.
Then we're going to deal with the intern.
steve bannon
Okay, I commit to you, you will not be surprised.
Other people will be surprised.
Wall Street will be surprised.
Your betters will be surprised.
We've spent years now talking about this, so that's why I can take this, that many people on Wall Street are in shock that Dalio said this day, you're not shocked.
You're a working class and middle class audience, and you are not shocked.
The reason you're not shocked, we have preached this gospel and taught you and given you the tools to teach yourself every day for five freaking years.
Why?
Because this is as close to the main thing as you can get.
And he talks restructuring.
I mean, what he said there is essentially a bankruptcy.
You're restructuring debt.
I mean, monetize debt.
Monetize debt is when you can't sell it.
You just buy it yourself.
And that, to me, is when you're on the road to perdition.
This audience understands it.
We've talked the 6.5% of GDP. A deficit to get to 3.5%, that's Scott Besson's plan.
He's talked about this for years, what has to happen to the Secretary of the Treasury.
That is not a random event either.
That is not a coincidence.
Because if you don't solve this, this thing's going to spin out of control.
Spin out of control.
Remember, please, always and everywhere, Your bettors did this.
The people that called you deplorables, the people that called you garbage, you are the full faith and credit of the United States.
It's not the SEC. It's not the Federal Reserve.
It's not the lords of easy money on Wall Street.
It ain't Goldman Sachs and Solomon Brothers and First Boston and Morgan Stanley and J.P. Morgan and Jamie Dimon and Kramer at CNBC and Becky Quick and all of it.
You.
And you know something is not right.
When people say they don't, the right track, wrong track, the reason is nobody wants to explain these terms, the geopolitical and the economic, the money and power.
And the political class have gamed the system.
And this is why they've been so gutless and cowardice and controlled opposition, all of it, just to kick the can down the road.
And someday, somebody else will figure it out.
Well, I take mine now.
That is the burning, seething anger that's right below the surface.
Because the people that were supposed to have the fiduciary responsibility, the people that were supposed to have the accountability, the people that had the authority, the people that gleaned all the benefits from the system, gamed the system.
This is what the populist national revolt's about.
It is a revolt.
And Ray Dahlia, in all the Wall Street terminology, we have a supply, because it doesn't sound so, you can sit in the boardroom.
Ray, what do you got?
I think we got a supply-demand, you know, it's like my old boss, Hank Paulson.
One of my bosses.
Hank Paulson.
Right the day before, I think, they let Lehman Brothers, he's on TV and I'm watching, I think I'm in an airport, I'm running around, I'm in an airport somewhere, I think.
And I see Hank on CNBC being interviewed.
He says, yes, we're going through a process of repricing risk.
We need to reprice risk.
And I said, man, that is Wall Street gobbledygook.
And 72 hours later, you've got to crash.
We're going to reprice risk.
Ray Dalio, we have a supply and demand mismatch.
Yeah.
We have a country that's bankrupt.
And the only way that we can...
Survive is that we have the whole world's got to take our paper money because every transaction in the world has to take place with that paper money.
Whether it's a drug deal in Thailand or given to a group of nuns in a convent in sub-Saharan Africa.
It all has got to be converted into dollars.
You're the prime reserve currency.
And so that makes sure that you have it out.
You can print money.
They can't print the money in the UK. They can't print.
This is why Liz Truss got turfed out in, what, 32 days?
This is why Macron, the government, turfed out.
This is why the Germans turfed out.
This is why the Italians and the Spanish and the Portuguese and Greece, they're all next in line.
They're going to get turfed out.
It's called a sovereign debt crisis.
What he described to you right there is a sovereign debt crisis.
Crisis that I've preached for a long time.
It's coming.
And it's not a MAGA guy.
It's not some guy with his hair on fire running around screaming into a microphone.
That's Ray Dalio, who's a multi-billionaire in a very dispassionate way.
That is a sovereign debt crisis.
We're going to have to restructure debt.
We're going to have to reschedule debt.
We're going to have to stiff people.
The Chinese Communist Party is going, what did he just say?
People they have political differences with may have to what?
Not pay them?
What?
Why do you think the Chinese Communist Party has gone from $1.2 trillion of this garbage down to $800 billion?
Why do you think they offloaded $400 billion?
Because they understand that that could be a possibility.
Ray Dalio is saying, hey, let's get out of here.
Let's get out of here.
Because Trump might do it.
From the sublime to the less sublime.
Let's go to Wisconsin.
We need to go to Wisconsin because victory begets victory.
In this Wisconsin, you know, Scott Press was up there.
The whole team's up there.
Brian Schmilling joins us, the head of the GOP. Brian, can you give us an update?
Where do we stand?
What help do you need?
Brother, we've got to win this.
And people said the other day, well, just some Supreme Court, these are not that relevant.
No.
This redistricting is everything.
Our audience fought this tooth and nail years ago from Tennessee to Missouri to Florida.
They understand the fight.
And I'm telling you, they've got so many other things on election fraud they're going to do, but what they're looking for, your 6-2 in congressional delegation, they want to go to 4-4.
If they go to 4-4, It's going to take a Hail Mary pass.
It's going to take a Hail Mary pass for Hakeem Jeffries.
And folks, understand this.
Just like Nancy Pelosi, after we won, when Nancy Pelosi was plotting every day for 18, the first thing they're going to do is impeach Donald John Trump and refer criminal charges on everybody over to DOJ. We're going to be back at Open Warfare.
If this, and the first domino to fall is going to be Wisconsin, that's why it's one of these battles that looks like it's periphery, but it's the main event.
What do you got for us, sir?
brian schimming
It is the main event, Steve, and the truth of the matter is what happens in Wisconsin between now and April 1st will not stay in Wisconsin.
They've admitted the fact that they want to take two of our members of Congress out.
I mean, Susan Crawford, the liberal candidate for Supreme Court here in Wisconsin, was on a fundraising call, the topic of which was the ability to knock out two Republican members of Congress in our six to two Republican majority here in Wisconsin.
So they said the quiet part out loud.
It's about power.
It's about going after Donald Trump.
I mean, they don't even bother hiding it anymore.
Which is why people like Eric Holder and other people are pushing Susan Crawford and the Soros gang and all these people are pushing for a liberal win on April 1st.
New poll out, actually just came out, showed it in exactly tied race.
47-47, Schimmel, Brad Schimmel, the conservative, and Susan Crawford, the liberal, with 5% undecided.
You can't turn on the TV anymore up here without seeing television ads.
So we're right there.
You know what, Steve?
This has got like a October, November feel to it where people are like, oh, Wisconsin's a tough state.
It's generally been blue, all that.
Well, we won the state with Donald Trump in November, you know, very, very closely.
But we won it in November.
This has got a November feel to it, and the liberals are panicking, so the outside money is...
Whoring in.
It'll be congressional seats.
It'll be concealed carry.
It'll be Scott Walker's Act 10 reforms.
It's going to be the whole deal.
steve bannon
So, Brian, we had you on so many times, even after he got out of prison, he walked us through exactly what had to happen on game day.
Walk us through.
Is it early voting?
What has to happen?
Pressler's up there.
Have we changed the architecture of the electorate like we did in Pennsylvania?
And then what's the call to action?
Folks, you know, today I've been, you know, given grand strategy and talking about this, and people are saying, hey, Bannon, we love that, but what's happening in Wisconsin, right?
Our folks are ready to go to the ramparts right now.
So where are we, and what do we need to do?
brian schimming
Well, as I told the president back last fall, early vote is a big deal, and he embraced it.
And we got an early vote here in Wisconsin.
Now early vote in Wisconsin begins March 18th.
So it's coming right up where people can vote.
Early vote from March 18th through the 30th.
And they can actually, if they get an absentee ballot, they can bring it in as late as 7.59 on election night.
But we're encouraging people to early vote.
So why do we do that?
Number one, we want the votes in the bank so we know they're there because we can identify those people who do early vote.
Whether partisan affiliation or conservative, liberal, whatever they might be.
But secondly, you early vote in Wisconsin, and we can spend the resources that we otherwise would have spent on you for the final two weeks.
A viewer in Wisconsin on someone else, an undecided voter, of which there are undecided voters.
So it's a real savings for the campaign when people early vote because we can spend the money on an undecided voter.
So that's an important point.
Election Day is Tuesday, April 1st.
So we're literally down to 20 days here.
So we're pushing a big early vote.
We're pushing help.
I've been on multiple national calls even the last 24 hours saying if people want to step up and vote.
Volunteer for the campaign through the state party, which is WISGOP.org, W-I-S-G-O-P.org, or the Schimmel campaign, which is Schimmel, S-C-H-I-M-E-L, forjustice.com.
Because that's really where we need to take this.
I mean, you know, we're trying to raise money.
Brad's spending money.
There are outside groups that are in the state.
And a lot of good things are happening.
Donald Jr.'s coming in next Monday.
But the message has to be, if you want to help President Trump remove this threat from the Republicans' future in the House, because they will...
They rewrite our congressional map.
The threat here is they rewrite the congressional map in Wisconsin.
The Democrats put up two seats, and they go after Donald Trump.
It's that simple.
steve bannon
Brian, hang on one second.
I'm going to hold you through a break.
Now, I may have to punch to go into the Oval, but I want you to stay.
We've got more questions.
The audience wants to go to the ramparts in this one.
I think also the juices are flowing, right?
It had been, what, six months since election in this group.
Particularly the battle-hardened.
They're ready for a fight.
Ready for a fight.
The first field of battle is Wisconsin for the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court justice.
Because they're using the courts.
And Brian just went through the whole litany of everything they want to overturn.
Including registry.
Short break.
Back in the war room in a moment, and we will go to the Oval as soon as President Trump kicks off.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
As you know, I'm all in for Trump 2028.
A guy like this comes along, you know, once in a country's lifetime.
We've had two before, General Washington and Lincoln.
But you won't see the likes of Trump for another 100 years.
I've broken down why.
With all his imperfections, you won't see another Trump for 100 years.
That's where you've got to take advantage of it.
The rap, Brian, and this is why I have you back on, because you laid out a battle plan over months and months and months.
In Wisconsin, of the seven, geographically, Pennsylvania is always a lift.
But Wisconsin's always just been, I think, mathematically the hardest, right?
Michigan's tough, but of all three of those.
And without Trump on the ballot, people just say, well, it's got to be Trump on the ballot or we're going to lose.
The reason you're in this job and the reason you're in that job for Trump is you've got a track record of showing that's not exactly true.
So I want you to walk it through because a lot of people are also saying this is an uphill fight.
The Democrats have got us.
And I'm not saying it's not uphill.
It definitely is uphill.
But why can we win this if we use our agency, sir?
brian schimming
We can win this fundamentally because I think the people are with us on law enforcement issues.
I always say sometimes Republicans have a habit of kind of sanding off every edge there is until the point where people don't understand the difference.
You've got a pro-law enforcement.
Pro-rule of law, pro-constitution candidate in Brad Schimel versus a Dane County, Madison-based leftist in his opponent, Sarah Crawford and Susan Crawford.
So the difference between them is very stark.
In fact, Steve, they're debating tonight.
Their one and only debate is tonight here in Wisconsin.
But as I said...
When I came over to run the assembly side, when we took over the majority some years ago, I was like, look, we're not over here to put lipstick on the pig of a quarter century of failures.
And that was my attitude that we took on the presidential race here.
We have a phenomenal candidate.
You couldn't ask for a better candidate than Donald Trump because of the kind of folks, you know, he appeals to all sorts of people that Republicans traditionally don't appeal to.
And so here we are, just a couple of months after November, all over again.
And people would say to me, well, you know, we've only won the state for Republican presidential candidate twice since the end of Reagan.
You know, it's like, you know, didn't think we can get the win.
It's like, you know, saying that we were upside down on the thing is, you know, ridiculous.
Like saying, the Hindenburg on a rough landing.
I mean, there were people who just weren't believers.
And so we spent a lot of time helping people believe.
Fortunately, we had Donald Trump.
But let's be candid.
The truth of it is, in off-year elections, when you don't...
Have Donald Trump, to your point, on the ballot.
You've got to say to people, look, this is about bigger things.
And in Wisconsin, this is literally about bigger things.
Because what happens in the Supreme Court race in Wisconsin on April 1st goes all the way to the U.S. House of Representatives.
There is no question in my mind about that.
steve bannon
And by the way, Donald Trump is on the ballot.
If we lose here, it's going to set the predicate for them to take the House with the redistricting, and we're going to take it 6-2.
They're going to go 4-4, and that's going to set the predicate that between New York, California, and North Carolina, we'll be on tenterhooks to save the House.
And as soon as you get to the House, Hakeem Jeffries is going to move articles of impeachment on Trump immediately, and we're going to be back to this trench warfare, which we're out of right now.
And this shows you the magic of the CR. And everybody, remember, everybody had to take one for the team here and say yes for bigger things.
I know you have, tomorrow, by the way, we are, Grace, we're going to live stream the debate tonight.
I'll do more on that in the afternoon show and the tee-up.
We are going to live stream the debate and I'll be in the chat giving commentary.
Also, tomorrow I want to get you back on.
I want you to lay out where if you're out of state.
That there's a possibility you can help in the phone banks, etc.
So there is, because folks want to use their agency on this one.
Because this is a national fight.
They're all, you know, this is like Fallujah in Second Fallujah, when all the bad guys on the other side all showed up.
They're all there.
They're all there.
And do you have any polling?
How tight is this?
Or how heavy a lift is this from your beady eyes?
Because you're pretty good about calling and saying, hey, look, here's reality.
Give me your reality check.
We're all in, so you can't depress this crowd.
They want to fight, and we're going to fight.
But tell us what's the reality of where you think we are.
brian schimming
It's right there.
It's literally right there.
I see that from the poll that came out this morning, which literally has it tied with a relatively small number of undecideds.
And I think in the poll that you're showing right now, 47-47, and also a relatively close race on the DPI race.
But that 47-47, we know what the left does.
Just all the money that comes in, all the things that happens in the target states, it's pouring in here now because the liberals get it.
They understand how important these justice and judge slots are, and they are important, and they're important to the president as well.
So that's why I say to people...
You know, I never have doubts about these things because I watch the polling closely, but also because I travel the state extensively.
I've been on the road almost every weekend talking about this since November.
And, you know, Steve, I always say to groups when I'm out there talking, and this is what I would say when I was out campaigning for the president with him, the win is out there.
The win is out there.
We just have to go get it.
We can't sit around waiting for it to come in the door.
We have to go again.
steve bannon
This is what this audience is best at.
You've just told us that it's about turnout.
You've got Pressler up there.
You've got every part of the Allied forces.
We're all there.
This audience has been chomping at the bit to get into it since the 18th.
We've got plenty of time to phone bank.
You're going to come back tomorrow.
We're going to have more analysis.
Maybe talk about parts of the state we've got to overperform in.
And you're going to give us the phone banking and how that's all done, plus any donations that are needed.
Brian, what's your social media, sir?
brian schimming
It is, my personal one is on X, is at Brian Schimming, B-R-I-A-M. S-C-H-I-M-M-I-N-G at Brian Scheming, both on Instagram and on Axe.
And follow me there to follow this race because I'm posting about it multiple times.
So I invite you to join me on Axe right now because it's important for us, and that's why I appreciate being on.
It's important for us to have the whole country know what's going on here in Wisconsin because the help we can pull in.
Is the help that will make a difference in a race that could end up within 10,000 votes?
steve bannon
Sir, thank you.
One more time, where do they go for the overall, to understand the candidates, his website, and the Wisconsin GOP? Where do they go?
brian schimming
Brad Schimmel, the conservative candidate, his website is schimmelforjustice, S-C-H-I-M-E-L, forjustice, one word, dot com, and mine is wisgop, W-I-S-G-O-P dot org.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate it.
Appreciate your work.
brian schimming
Thanks so much.
steve bannon
Thanks.
Remember, they were saying, oh, Trump can't win Wisconsin.
Come on, man.
He's not going to win Wisconsin.
You got Madison.
You got that big radical university.
You got Milwaukee.
Can't happen.
Hey, guess what?
This is back to every day is going to be a struggle here.
It's going to be a struggle.
And they're maniacally focused.
Remember, they're on their back foot now, and that's why I just love this.
All gas, no break, boom.
Just victory after victory after victory.
Quasi-victory.
Move the chains.
Give me a three-yard off-tackle play right now.
Just move the chains.
Move the football.
Be relentless.
Do not stop.
Just hammer, hammer, hammer, hammer, hammer.
And we're going to get everybody set up.
For the close here.
Early voting starts the 18th all the way through the 30th.
Then it was a day break.
And then April 1st is the main event.
A big turnout day then.
So we'll have everything teed up.
We are going to stream.
Grace is going to get on this now.
We are going to stream the debate tonight.
And I will be making commentary on the debate as it goes tonight of how important this is.
Because actually they touch on just about every important social issue, cultural issues, including Second Amendment, and including election, election fraud, all of it, plus the redistricting.
You got it all there.
How do you want more?
A lot of you guys have been saying, hey, I need, you know, a lot of you guys like old gunfighters.
You just need, you know, you just want to get some action.
Well, you're going to get some action.
We got one.
Important.
Couldn't be higher.
And Trump is on the ballot.
Trump's going to be on every ballot.
I mean, he's going to be on the ballot for a long time.
Not just him, but his presence and his meaning and what he stands for.
Okay, we are...
It hasn't started in the Oval yet.
We're going to go to it immediately.
Our own Brian Glenn is there, and Brian, I'm sure, has got some great questions.
I haven't actually seen the...
Tay-Sach?
Tay-Sach?
Has not arrived yet?
That's a little off schedule.
Maybe they got the...
Oh, they may be doing the meeting.
First of all, it's a detransition day up on...
So Brandon Showalter and the whole team is up on Capitol Hill.
We're also going to try to get to that.
They're doing hearing, their meetings, everything's going on the detransition from this radical transgender ideology.
Brandon Showwater's up there.
I think Terry Schilling's up there.
We've got a lot of folks up there.
We're going to try to get some of the testimony, some of the meeting, what happened.
Also, here we come right now, the Honor Guard.
We don't know what's happening, but that's okay.
You're in the war room.
We'll figure it out.
Blocking the shots.
Beautiful, though.
Right over the shoulder.
Can't get any better than that.
President is going to have a press avail.
May not happen during the time here of the war room because it is 1130 in the morning, Eastern Standard Time.
And we punch out at noon, high noon.
Charlie takes over.
Kirk.
Jack's after that.
You've got Gruber and you've got Eric Bolling.
Is Eric Bolling on fire or what?
Then it's back to the war room.
We're going to figure all this out.
It's another massive action day in Washington, D.C. Department of Education, I think, is done.
Massive vote in the Senate and the Democrats are sweating.
President Trump's cornered these rats.
Short break.
Back to the War Room in a moment.
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steve bannon
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We'll give you a live update this afternoon.
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steve bannon
Hang on one second.
Let's cut right to President Trump.
Just hang on for one second.
Let's go to President Trump.
Greeting the Irish Taysoc.
President Trump right there at the West Wing.
O'Neill Gillihan doesn't mind waiting for this.
He's taking some photo, photo op.
We don't have a mic out there if President Trump is.
Okay, so now they're in that little anteroom, so a little reception area, right by the Roosevelt Room, and they'll go into the Oval from there, and they'll have a few minutes of chatting, talking, etc.
Then President Trump normally brings in the press, has a press avail, and then they leave, and then he has his bilateral.
So it takes a little longer.
He'll have a lunch.
Actually, they're going up to Capitol Hill.
This is kind of the St. Paddy's Day.
Commemoration.
Okay?
Do it a little early.
I guess it's because of the weekend, but they're going to do it today.
And also, I think the House is leaving, the Senate is leaving, all that.
Okay.
So we've got a few minutes.
We're going to hit rewind.
What is it?
O'Neill, Gillihan?
You're a mix Mick.
Right?
You're a mix.
You're O'Neill on one hand and Gillihan.
And that big cowboy, that big cowboy is...
I got to tell a story.
So Catherine comes to me, and Catherine is one of the true warriors.
She was on 16. She was out of the state, came to the White House.
I mean, this girl's a warrior.
And, you know, she then goes out.
I think she's on a 2020 campaign.
She comes in and helps.
She's one of the great warriors on stopping the big steal.
I mean, she's hammering.
And then, of course, in 21, got her figured out.
And she's thinking of going to Florida and maybe running for Congress.
I go, no, you're not going to do that.
Go out.
Go west, young woman.
The future's in the west.
Go west.
Everybody's going to Florida.
You've got to go somewhere else.
And she goes, yeah, we know.
We've got some family out in Wyoming.
I said, it's perfect.
Next thing you know, she's one of this new generation alternative economy, the patriot economy, and starting these young entrepreneurs, starting these businesses.
You've got Comstock.
You've got Tahoe.
We love these folks.
We're there to help them.
And Catherine comes back and says, yeah, I think I want to start a beef company.
And that Merriweather Farms is on fire.
Fire.
And that's because of your tenacity and drive, everything you showed me on every day with President Trump.
And this is why it's so great to see these young people, the Natalie Winters and all the young people.
That are there.
You know, Levitt and, you know, Caroline Levitt.
All the whole team.
You see these kids when they're young and they're just coming and they're fighters and they're not going to quit.
And next thing you know, they're a success.
And you'll be back in the White House one day, man, probably as chief of staff, if not president of these United States.
So hit rewind.
We got a minute or two before President Trump has us back in.
Give us a rewind on our beef.
catharine oneill gillihan
Thanks so much, Steve.
That's really kind of your kind words.
You know, they texted me again yesterday asking me to come back in.
And I feel obligated to do something.
So there may be some sort of board or commission that I could serve on and help President Trump still from the outside.
But anyway.
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steve bannon
It's incredible.
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Because you have a great product.
steve bannon
She went out to Wyoming.
She started a company that's on fire.
She got a big old cowboy as a husband.
She got a baby on her hip.
I mean, life's good, right?
Hey, your other alternative would be voting for a CR that you hated than just to take one for the team.
That's what we saved you from, ma'am.
catharine oneill gillihan
Yes, thank you.
I was upset about that.
We've got to do what we have to do until we get a real budget.
steve bannon
Real budget.
Catherine, thank you so much.
I think I'm going to have the entrepreneurs on in the next couple of weeks as a group to talk about business conditions for the startup entrepreneur.
Catherine O'Neill Gillihan.
catharine oneill gillihan
Yes.
steve bannon
Thank you so much.
Appreciate you.
catharine oneill gillihan
Thanks, Bannon.
Bye-bye.
steve bannon
Bye, hon. Let's get it up in the chyron.
These people are fighters.
Whatever you do, you're going to have a different task and purpose in this movement.
Some people are going to do this, some people are going to do that.
Do what your heart drives you to, what your agency, you can fully use your agency.
It could be elected office, it could be precinct strategy.
I've had so many people come up and say, hey, I got involved at the town council meeting, the village council, as a supervisor.
The one thing you'll find, and Catherine and the entrepreneurs are finding, the network effect.
You're going to meet people.
Because think about it.
Mainly in life, your life gets narrower and narrower.
And that's one of the big issues with people feeling isolated and people feeling depressed.
And having these issues, you know, these kind of change-of-life issues, both men and women, as you get older and you get more and more isolated.
You have family, but maybe the family narrows down, and your friends, and maybe you stop working.
You know, you come to that time, you work less and less.
Being involved in this movement is the one thing I can commit to you is that it'll be the exact opposite.
You will expand your horizons and meet people you never thought you met, not just here, from all over the world.
Because this is really a global effort on a nationalist basis, country by country.
But you're going to meet people, you'll get into Facebook chats, you'll do everything.
Your world will expand.
And you will realize that, hey, I'm doing something not just important, I'm doing something vitally important to save my country.
And that the history books will write about.
And I'm there.
Just like, you know, don't talk, don't just read a book and say, gosh, if I was only alive at Lexington and Concord.
And that's a couple weeks away.
We're going to announce, we're going to try to do some very special things for this.
The 250th.
That's another thing about divine providence.
If President Trump had, you know, if they had not stolen it and he got his true victory in 2020, it would have been such a grind in that second term, right?
Because all the demons were around him.
But coming back and having had the time to think and reflect and have the Project 2025s and the Brooks Rollins, you know, AFPI, all these different think tanks and have this stuff ready to go, but also to have it in the 250th Anniversary of Lexington and Concord in the first hundred days of his administration, his second term.
And then to have the 250th signing of the Declaration of Independence and the 250th anniversary of the Battle of New York or of Long Island, to have the Dunkirk, as we talk about Patrick O'Donnell, have the Dunkirk, the Thermopylae in Brooklyn and the Dunkirk right there, Brooklyn Heights, the 250th.
And then to have the 250th of commemoration of the Battle of Trenton, right?
Or the midnight, you know, the Christmas, the combat history of Christmas on President Trump's watch, the second term.
That's providential.
This just is.
You can't convince me otherwise.
It just is.
Think about it.
If they hadn't stolen it, we've served out.
I'm sure it would have been great, but you had all those demons kind of, they had this structure.
We needed the time to kind of regroup and rethink it, and that's what you're seeing today.
This complete and total rethinking of the geostrategic position of the United States, and you see it, the parts of it, you see it in Riyadh yesterday where they agreed in one day.
You're going to see it in Moscow as he works on this rapprochement.
You see it from Panama to Greenland.
What, the two parties combined, I think?
The two parties combined, I think, are going to run the thing are independence parties in Greenland.
I'll get more about that hopefully this afternoon or tomorrow.
But President Trump's totally rethinking.
And it's going to happen in the 250th anniversary years of our beloved country's history.
That's a miracle.
I mean, how can that happen?
It happened because divine providence is working through you and divine providence is working through President Trump.
And I say this as rationally as I can and having thought about it a lot.
The 2050th anniversary of one of the most important days in world history, not in American history, in world history is Lexington and Concord.
Lexington and Concord.
It's going to happen.
In what, five weeks, six weeks?
And then you've got the 250th of the birth of the country, the signing of the declaration, really the declaration of war against the British Empire.
And everything we've shown you since then about the fleet and everything that happened in New York and New York Harbor.
And we'll be able to commemorate all that, but President Trump will be the leader of that.
His administration will be setting the tone of that.
And then later, you know, the battle, the Christmas night.
Battle with the Hessians, all of it.
Absolutely, completely and totally stunning.
So much to get through.
I guess you're running a tad late.
That's fine.
President Trump ain't on the clock.
He's the president of these United States.
And he's taking on all enemies, foreign and domestic.
He's got a pretty full slate.
But you're seeing history.
It's like being there in the room the night before.
As they're thinking about Lexington and Concord, I guess leading up to it, because when Paul Revere went around the night before, they were ready to go.
They were trained.
They had done reps.
They were ready to go.
It's like the equivalent of the precinct strategy.
You do the reps.
You learn at that level, and you're ready to go at a moment's notice.
They sound the fire alarm, the fire bell in the night, and you're ready to go.
This is Wisconsin.
Wisconsin is just another part of the unfolding of Lexington and Concord.
And those brave individuals in Lexington Common, Lexington Green, and Concord Bridge said, no, no, no, no, no.
We got a different idea.
We're not going to go your route.
We're going to go our route.
And everything, that's the railhead of it.
Right?
That's the railhead of it.
And that is your direct lineage.
That revolutionary fervor.
That revolutionary call to action.
That revolutionary grit.
And also that's, hey, they knew a couple, three were going to get taken out.
They didn't care.
That's exactly opposite of what a sunshine patriot is.
This is what the firestorm we're going to go through.
To go back to Ray Daly, to get to that 7.2 to 3% deficit, there's going to be a lot of tears.
There's going to be a lot of tears.
A lot of tears.
Short commercial break.
We'll either be at the Oval or back in the War Room in just a moment.
unidentified
We will fight till they're all gone.
We rejoice when there's no more.
Let's take down the CCP.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon
I We're going to get into the Oval Office.
We're going to get to see what's going on.
It's not going to be during the show.
It'll probably be during Charlie's hour.
Remember, Charlie follows us.
Two more hours of populist nationalism.
Then you've got Poso.
Boys, his brother is starting to step up to play.
Love Kevin.
Kevin's done a great job.
Great job yesterday at the Basilica.
Great job the other day down at the BLM Square.
Kevin Pasova.
Kevin's...
Jack's at two.
Gruber's at three.
Eric Bolling's now at four.
And now every day that I'm available to do it, we do a direct handover.
Can't talk about what's been on his show, what's going to be on our show.
And I love Bolling.
I've known him for a long time.
Just a great guy.
Another warrior.
Tonight, so today we're going to do the, if I can get the time, somebody give me the time, we're going to live stream the debate in Wisconsin.
The only debate they're going to have.
I'll have commentary.
There's so much I didn't get to this morning, because I wanted to get to the Ray Daly of it all.
But there's so much more about Ukraine.
There's so much more about trade.
The Canadians just came back, I don't know, 27th, 7th, Wisconsin time, so that'll be 8 o'clock.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
That's 8 o'clock Eastern Standard Time will be up on all of our chats, in Rumble, on Getter, all of it.
And all the difference on Telegram, everything.
So be ready, and I'll be up there giving commentary.
Maybe if I can learn how to use everything, going into different chats.
That's why Ray Dalio is the most important thing said today.
Reinforced everything that's going on, everything with the cuts, all of it.
Canada's come back and thrown down hard against President Trump's on tariffs today.
I'm sure there's going to be a response.
President Trump's going up today for a lunch on Capitol Hill, but it's this kind of Irish...
Bring up all our Irishness today.
President Trump now has been notified.
I think we got notice.
President Trump is returning to Capitol Hill.
Is that correct?
Returning to Capitol Hill tomorrow to meet with the Senate Finance.
I don't think they're coming to the White House.
I think he's going there.
Maybe have lunch with them or meet.
They're working on the reconciliation.
And when you talk about Senate Finance, you're talking about taxes, the budget, all of it.
So that'll be a very important meeting.
And maybe I'll go through and give my thinking on this taxes tomorrow and just to get to Ray Dalio, 7.2% to 3.5% or Scott's 6.5% to 3.5%.
That's kind of the number.
And it's so important to understand that.
Right now, as a store of value, gold's been on a huge run the last couple of years.
But the question for you is not what the price is, it's what drives the price and why it's a store of value.
Particularly in these uncertain...
At times, President Trump putting this in, this new plan in, he's the first to say, hey, we're going to go through a transition period.
He's got a complete different economic model, one that really gives wealth, lets working class and middle class people actually have the ability to generate wealth, that you're just not all concentrated in the top 1%.
That wages finally break free, just like he had it in 19, that golden year.
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And we've put in this whole thing that Ray Dalio is talking about now.
To make sure that when a guy like Ray Dalio talks, you're not sitting there like in the old days, some bumping along.
You go, I understand that.
I don't fully understand it because it's a little Wall Street gobbledygook, but I basically understand what's going on here.
And the big deal is about how do we actually finance this mess, and it's a mess, and how President Trump's going to think it through.
And when he has a guy like Scott Besson, who's one of the top capital markets guys around.
So make sure that you check all that out.
So right now, state of play.
You did your job.
You stood down.
You had your guys back.
I can read the chat.
I can go to my getter feed, and I know people are not happy.
I ain't happy.
It had to be done.
Dave Weigel told you, he alerted the morning joke crowd, hey, they got another trick up their sleeve.
It's either rescissions or impoundment, but to the degree that Doge can show them that these things are here, they're not going to finance it for the rest of the year.
It's not going to happen.
They're going to impound it.
And that's why it's important more than ever for Doge to start translating some of these things back into basic math so that people can see where we're not going to finance it.
We're going to take that money from there.
And you're already starting to see some moves.
There's a big legal fight today.
It's going to be Julie Kelly's going to cover it.
I think it's at 2 or 3 o'clock.
Go to Julie Kelly's Twitter feed.
We'll have her back on.
Judge Chuck, and here's what it is.
Remember the $20 billion?
That Doge kind of found that's over at Citicorp.
And people are saying, the EPA guys are saying, we don't exactly know why this money got transferred to Citicorp.
We now know it's going to Stacey Abrams and a bunch of these NGOs.
Well, one of them, I think, are suing the government to say, hey, the money got cut off.
There's going to be a court hearing today.
Remember that front line, the Chutkins and all these are these radical Obama and Biden era judges that are these left-wing activists, as Mike Davis and other folks call them.
And so there's another huge fight today.
It's going to be right there.
Julie Kelly is going to be tweeting it out live.
We're going to have Julie back on the 5 to 7 show to talk about this.
This is this whole concept of Doge.
This is waste, fraud, and abuse.
This is, hey, nobody understands, the EPA guys, nobody understands how this money got transferred, got transferred in the last days of the Biden regime.
And why is it going to these different NGOs?
Because this is how they, it's not charitable donations that pay for this.
Yes, you do have the Tides Foundation.
You have, you know, this is what, Natalie Winters is found with ActBlue, which is so brilliant.
Her investigative report, which I think has 35 or 40 million views right now.
That's the appetite out there, not just in the United States, but globally, to see how this scam, this con is working.
A big part of this, though, is your tax dollars.
Your tax dollars went to basically destroy you and your family.
And if you're a MAGA person, to basically, essentially, you know, deplatform or debank you.
unidentified
Tariffs.
steve bannon
Canada's come back hard today.
We'll be a big update on that.
China is sitting there saying we're going to fight to the end.
This is why Jace Medical, the timing of this is perfect.
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President Trump, when you see Apple coming back here, we're reassuring and taking back global supply chains and putting them right here in the heartland of this country so it never happens to us again.
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