March 7, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| Tariff is his favorite word. | ||
| I would say the reciprocal is probably his second favorite word. | ||
| And I think we have to be open to the idea. | ||
| If you want to be a numbskull like Justin Trudeau and say, oh, we're going to do this, then tariffs are going to go up. | ||
| But if you want to sit back... | ||
| Have a discussion with the Commerce Department, USTR. They all have my phone number, too. | ||
| I am happy to have a discussion with our foreign counterparts that says that here's what we think you are doing. | ||
| And the tariffs are the actual easy part. | ||
| We know India does this on U.S. motorcycles. | ||
| Germany does this on, or EU does this on American cars. | ||
| That's a quantitative number. | ||
| But also, what are non-tariff barriers? | ||
| Apple cannot sell the new iPhone 16 because of local content laws in Indonesia. | ||
| Are you manipulating your currency? | ||
| Are you suppressing the value of that? | ||
| Are you unfairly subsidizing select industries? | ||
| Via bank lending or suppressing labor markets. | ||
| And then five, something that's come to our attention recently, the EU is putting these gigantic fines on our U.S. tech companies, and that's a non-tariff barrier, too. | ||
| So we're going to look at that and then talk about what could happen on a reciprocal basis. | ||
| Much of that will come out April 2nd. | ||
| And we will then, it's going to be path-dependent based on our trading partners, and there will be a discussion. | ||
| Prime Minister Keir Starmer and Team UK were in the White House on Thursday. | ||
| We had a very good discussion about getting going on all of this and more. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Thank you very much for that. | ||
| Let me be clear. | ||
| The U.S. does not have a revenue problem. | ||
| We have a spending problem. | ||
| We are right where we have been in the long-term averages, 17.5%, 18.5% of revenues. | ||
| That hasn't changed. | ||
| What has changed is this blowout spending. | ||
| Over the past 40 years, the deficit has averaged about 3.5%. | ||
| So we were at 21%, 22% of GDP spending. | ||
| Previous administration blew it out to 25%. | ||
| Some of the things they put in place, if we hadn't... | ||
| Grabbed them by the horns. | ||
| This thing was going to blow out even more. | ||
| And so we've stabilized it. | ||
| We're bringing it down. | ||
| And we're going to go from there. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| We're going to talk economics and capital markets, geopolitics, also presidential run in 2020. I know it's early, but Gavin Newsom, I think, kind of got in the blocks today with Charlie Kirk, so we're going to get to all that. | ||
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| Will Upton was an official in President Trump's Treasury Department in the first term. | ||
| He's one of the senior editors over at National Pulse, Rahim Kassam. | ||
| Rahim kicked off the coverage we had today. | ||
| We streamed the entire thing here on Real America's Voice right after war room was over. | ||
| I want to thank Rob Sieg and Parker Sieg and the team. | ||
| See our own Scott Besson. | ||
| It was good to see Scott and Larry Kudlow. | ||
| Rahim teed it up at the prestigious... | ||
| Economic Club of New York, Will Upton, joins us with his assessment. | ||
| You have a big article up on National Pulse now that everyone should go and read. | ||
| What's your assessment, overall assessment? | ||
| You've had the job before, Will, of having to craft the message from President Trump's Treasury Department. | ||
| Thinking about crafting it today, where does Scott Besson stand? | ||
| What did he have to say? | ||
| What was important? | ||
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It was an excellent speech. | |
| I think he did everything that he needed to accomplish in it. | ||
| You're speaking to the Economic Club of New York, which is predominantly more of an establishment economic organization. | ||
| You're going to have kind of a mix of... | ||
| Your sort of academic free traders, your academic supply-siders, and your academic Keynesian types, and a lot of kind of Wall Street types. | ||
| So this isn't really kind of a MAGA crowd, per se. | ||
| But, you know, he had a couple key tasks. | ||
| One, he had to reassure everybody in the room, and I think he did a very good job of that. | ||
| But I think he also very forcefully sort of laid out what this administration's goal is. | ||
| In terms of U.S. economy, in terms of international trade, in terms of how we're going to handle our foreign adversaries, especially China and Iran. | ||
| And those were sort of some of the key aspects that Bessette laid out. | ||
| And, you know, I served under Secretary Mnuchin. | ||
| And Scott Bessent is pretty much, in my opinion, Mnuchin 2.0, Mnuchin on steroids. | ||
| He's both got the economic mind, but he's also got kind of the nationalist policy mind there to really kind of forcefully see this through, I think. | ||
| You know, you're in – so the economic clubs, these are very important. | ||
| They've been around a long time, started by different business elites in certain cities. | ||
| The most prestigious thing, one, has always been, I think, the Economic Club of Detroit, which is kind of the manufacturing part. | ||
| They've always done big announcements there. | ||
| You've got the Economic Club of Chicago. | ||
| Economic Club of New York is really for the Wall Street and all the Wall Street, our sociopathic overlords are for easy money. | ||
| When he goes in and they say that's a Keynesian crowd, there's a lot of liberals there, there's a lot of progressives. | ||
| And he walks in and the thing about Scott, I think is so fantastic. | ||
| It's not just he brings the big brain as far as capital markets go. | ||
| But he's a working-class kid from Myrtle Beach, outside of Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. | ||
| He's very MAGA, and he can explain it, and particularly tariffs. | ||
| Just overall, did the message sink in today? | ||
| Because that, for a, you know, it's probably a 60-40 Republican crowd. | ||
| But even in that 60, it's a fairly hostile environment, not outwardly hostile, but not a lot of... | ||
| I went up with President Trump a number of years ago, where President Trump just went full... | ||
| And he talked about tax cuts, but he went full MAGA when he talked about tariffs. | ||
| And you could tell the room was not digging it, right? | ||
| They were not high-fiving. | ||
| So how was the reception today? | ||
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I think there was a lot more understanding. | |
| I think people, you know, you had a few weeks ago, Jamie Dimon, basically, Give off the signal, the tariffs are coming, live with it, deal with it, figure out a way to make money. | ||
| And Secretary Bessett kind of hit that home, too, when he said, you know, for too long, we've sort of become accustomed to conflating, you know, Cheap goods with access to less costly goods. | ||
| I think it was an important point. | ||
| We're not actually saving money. | ||
| We're just buying cheaper crap. | ||
| It's time that we stop that reliance on these foreign cheap goods. | ||
| I think there was a lot more openness to that in the room. | ||
| Finally, I think it's sunk in. | ||
| Trump is the president, and this is what's going to happen, and there isn't a whole lot for these guys to do other than sort of move on and accept the economic realities as they are. | ||
| You know, one of the phrases that went viral, and people are trying to spread it the other way, Scott Besson said, the American dream, the essence of the American dream is not buying cheap goods. | ||
| And what he meant by that is that the American dream is not predicated upon buying cheap goods from China, right? | ||
| The American dream is about having a stake in this economy, about having some ownership in this economy, about having a stable social structure, and knowing that labor doesn't have to compete against the world in its own country. | ||
| Don't mind competing on a global basis. | ||
| But kind of that stability to be a productive society and a society not built upon speculation or finance, but really built upon our industrial might. | ||
| Why would they freak out? | ||
| Because a lot of people, and you see a lot of the liberals saying, oh, my God, he said it's not the American dream to buy cheap goods. | ||
| Is that how twisted and demented the left, particularly on the economic side, has gotten over the last couple of decades? | ||
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Yeah, the progressive obsession with affordability – has sort of driven them into this place where they are very content sacrificing a productive economy with an economy that is highly capital intensive and highly import intensive as long as it basically drastically reduces costs. | |
| But that comes at the expense of having A stable economy for your average American worker. | ||
| It used to be you could work for a company in this country for your entire career, a single company. | ||
| But today, between the high rate of mergers and acquisitions, the sort of high rate of startup companies being sold off immediately, most people only work for a company maybe for five years, if that, before they have to find a new job. | ||
| So you don't really have careers anymore in the United States. | ||
| You just have jobs. | ||
| And that makes it very difficult. | ||
| For the individual, you know, family to be able to plan long-term and to be able to actually sort of, you know, save their resources, invest, and have that sort of quality of life. | ||
| So what we're getting is, yeah, we're getting cheaper goods, but we're actually losing quality of life at the end of the day. | ||
| Our lives are becoming more stressful, are becoming more sort of work-intensive, and less productive, ultimately. | ||
| It was today that the president kind of then said in Mexico, and I guess part of Canada, that if you're part of the, really NAFTA too, the US, what, MCA, that part of that you would be... | ||
| Because I realize President Trump is not just trying to put a tariff on an avocado or some sort of auto part from Canada. | ||
| He looks at this as a premium market. | ||
| If you don't invest here, and he's got massive, I think, $800 billion. | ||
| From companies alone, from plant and equipment, they're coming. | ||
| Top quality, Honda. | ||
| Taiwan Semiconductor. | ||
| Apple. | ||
| I mean, Apple, $500 billion. | ||
| Taiwan, $100 billion in four years. | ||
| These are huge numbers, massive plants. | ||
| But he's saying, hey, it's a premium market. | ||
| If you're not here making it, it's a premium price, like a skybox at a sporting event or a front row ticket for a concert. | ||
| But do you think it behooves, particularly the messaging guys like yourselves, instead of saying, hey, it's going to be 25%, I'm sticking to it, and if the markets... | ||
| You know, go up and down, they go up and down, right? | ||
| Or is it good that he's making these accommodations with either companies or governments as we go forward? | ||
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I think the accommodations with companies is fine, especially if they're going to locate here. | |
| You know, that gets them predominantly around the tariff anyways. | ||
| And that's the ultimate goal, is that we want production in the United States. | ||
| It's a little frustrating with the Canada-Mexico tariffs that they keep. | ||
| Sort of getting changed slightly or delayed here and there. | ||
| And I think that that does rile the markets a little bit because it causes a degree of uncertainty. | ||
| Investors and companies like consistency. | ||
| They like to be able to plan. | ||
| And we're losing a little bit of that. | ||
| But I honestly think that the Canada-Mexico tariffs are far more negotiating leverage on border and immigration and drug stuff. | ||
| It's the reciprocal tariffs that are going to take effect. | ||
| On April 2nd, that's the real big apple here. | ||
| And that's what Secretary Bessent talked a little bit about today as well. | ||
| He sort of highlighted that we've been exporting our economy out to a lot of these foreign nations for so long. | ||
| In the instance of Japan and Germany, we allowed them to put tariffs on American products and goods as part of the Marshall Plan in 1948. And we've never tariffed them back on those things. | ||
| So they have longstanding tariffs on U.S. automobiles, for instance, that date back over 70 years, almost 80 years. | ||
| And I'm pretty sure by now that the German and Japanese economies have recovered from World War II. Maybe they haven't, but I'd be shocked. | ||
| So, you know, he hit on this and he goes, you know, it's time for a lot of this to change. | ||
| The United States has been complacent almost for sort of a period of time here, and it's time that we're no longer so complacent. | ||
| By the way, the article is in National Pulse. | ||
| I want everybody to go to the site. | ||
| Grace and Mo will put it up into the chat rooms in Liz, Elizabeth. | ||
| The headline is, Best in Strikes Competent, Combative Tone in Major Economic Address from New York City. | ||
| I know the competent part. | ||
| In your mind, what was the combative part, Will Upton? | ||
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So, again, I think basically the emphasis that the tariffs are here, the tariffs are happening. | |
| But some of the more combative parts, he really did take aim at the Biden administration's absolute disastrous sanctions policy. | ||
| And this is something that I've written quite a bit about in National Review, especially on Iran. | ||
| This idea that you could bribe Iran into essentially giving up its nuclear program and stop funding terrorist proxies. | ||
| It's one area where the neocons actually kind of got it right. | ||
| But the neocons also haven't quite been as appreciative of what Trump's Iran sanctions in the first term did, and what they're likely to do now. | ||
| The sort of maximum pressure campaign that President Trump launched in his first term against Iran. | ||
| We actually saw Iranian oil exports, the daily Iranian oil exports drop from about 1.2 million to 500,000 barrels a day. | ||
| Their GDP was cut in half. | ||
| You want to talk about a country that's not able to pursue a nuclear program and not able to fund terrorist proxies? | ||
| That was Iran under President Trump. | ||
| And that's going to be Iran again. | ||
| You can't fund a nuclear program if you don't have money. | ||
| And Scott Bessett kind of... | ||
| Tongue-in-cheek, but very slightly suggested that if you're an Iranian, you should get your money out of the Iranian real right now, because it's about to get very, very ugly for them. | ||
| Will Upton, where did we go to National Polls to get your writings, and what is your social media, sir? | ||
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Yeah, all my writings are at www.thenationalpulse.com. | |
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| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| After Scott Bessence, and we'll break down more Scots after I get off tonight up on Getter. | ||
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| That would be the era of Trump. | ||
| He's trying to restructure. | ||
| Restructure the economy of the United States. | ||
| Restructure the geopolitical. | ||
| Reality, ending the post-war international rules-based order and coming up with America First policies is going to be turbulent. | ||
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| Another near all-time high today. | ||
| And President Trump hasn't even gone to Fort Knox with Elon Musk. | ||
| And Elon Musk looks like he's going to have a little time on his hands, given what happened over at the cabinet room today. | ||
| And Scott Besson wasn't even there and missed the fireworks. | ||
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Okay. | |
| We talked the other night, and it was Steve Gruber that said, hey, the midterm elections start with the presentation of the State of the Union or the joint address to Congress. | ||
| And, of course, it was a magnificent speech by President Trump and an absolutely feral reaction by the Democrats. | ||
| But maybe 2028, and the Democratic Party started the last couple of days. | ||
| Stephen A. Smith has been going around hitting the circuit. | ||
| And today, a podcast. | ||
| Our own Charlie Kirk with the governor of California, Gavin Newsom, had a few surprises in it. | ||
| Some of the people we're closest to here in the war room, their heads were blowing up. | ||
| Let's play a clip, and we're going to bring in Brandon Showalter from the Christian Post. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play it. | ||
| You're talking to me about people. | ||
| It's like you right now should come out and be like, you know what? | ||
| The young man who's about to win the state championship in the long jump in female sports, that shouldn't happen. | ||
| You as the governor should step out and say no. | ||
| No, and I appreciate it. | ||
| But would you do something like that? | ||
| Would you say no men in female sports? | ||
| Well, I think it's an issue of fairness. | ||
| I completely agree with you on that. | ||
| It is an issue of fairness. | ||
| It's deeply unfair. | ||
| Would you speak out against this young man, A.B. Hernandez, who right now is going to win the state championship in the long jump? | ||
| Boy, did I saw how you guys were able to weaponize that issue at another level. | ||
| Not weaponized. | ||
| Well, weaponized may be pejorative. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| But you were able to- Shine a light on? | ||
| Highlight it in a way that, frankly, there are not that many. | ||
| We're talking about, I think, the NCAA, what, 510,000? | ||
| No, no, but I just didn't realize. | ||
| It's 890 medals and trophies that we know of in the last five years. | ||
| That's a lot. | ||
| No, so let me step back and say completely fair on the issue of fairness. | ||
| I completely agree. | ||
| So that's easy to call out, the unfairness of that. | ||
| There's also a humility and a grace. | ||
| You know, that these poor people are more likely to commit suicide, have anxiety and depression. | ||
| And the way that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue that I have a hard time with as well. | ||
| So both things I can hold in my hand. | ||
| How can we address this issue with the kind of decency that I think, you know, is inherent in you, but not always expressed on the issue. | ||
| No, I get it. | ||
| At the same time, deal with the unfairness. | ||
| Okay, Brandon Showalter, this, how do I say it, Gavin Newsom is a very smart guy, very ambitious guy. | ||
| He wants to be the Democratic nominee in 28. | ||
| He sees a party in complete shambles. | ||
| The party that the national party that's in the imperial capital is shattered beyond belief and can't really not be able to fix itself. | ||
| He sees an opportunity. | ||
| Is he just a narcissistic opportunist? | ||
| Or do you think this is really a change of heart or change of being? | ||
| And he believes now what he hasn't believed before, sir. | ||
| My read on Gavin Newsom is that he is indeed a narcissistic opportunist. | ||
| But it does go to show just how delusional the party has become on the issue. | ||
| And it clearly caught Hakeem Jeffries by surprise because he was asked about that this morning. | ||
| And Mr. Jeffries responded that what the Democratic Party is against is unleashing sexual predators. | ||
| Because if you will remember some of the things that he's doing, Steve, when the women, you know... | ||
| The prohibiting males and women's sports bill was being considered on the House. | ||
| The Democrats were united in their messaging saying that what this is going to lead to is, you know, genital inspections of girls are going to have to drop their drawers to make sure that they're truly female so they can play on a female-only sports team. | ||
| And so they're clearly off balance. | ||
| But yes, I do think that the sports issue when it comes to gender ideology is kind of a little hanging fruit. | ||
| And as one of my friends just texted me, he's trying to extend a golden bridge. | ||
| Do I think he has had a change of heart? | ||
| No. | ||
| I will only think that when he revokes legislation such as the... | ||
| The bills that he signed that have allowed men and women's prisons, SB 132, or he revokes the SB 107, which made California a trans-sanctuary state so gender-confused youngsters can become medicalized in the Golden State against their wishes of their parents and the family courts and the jurisdiction. | ||
| The custody laws will allow it. | ||
| So no, I don't think it's a change of heart, but it does clearly show that he understands the insanity of the issue, because if there's anything that Democrats will not cross, it's the trans activists. | ||
| This functions very much as the de facto religion for them. | ||
| It's there, to use some fancy pants, fringe words, it's their cause celebre and the raison d'etre. | ||
| I'm surprised to see this, but maybe his words will give a permission structure of sorts to other high profile Democrats to finally say, yeah, it's insane to allow men and women's sports. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| No, I want to drill down on this because some people would say, hey, this is a marginal issue. | ||
| Why do you spend time on this? | ||
| And like I said, when I first started having Brandon and Dr. Miriam Grossman and all these folks on, I don't know, three years ago, as I told Brandon, hey, this is not my line of country. | ||
| In fact, I couldn't even get through some of the interviews. | ||
| I couldn't even look at some of the things. | ||
| It freaked me out too badly. | ||
| I said, this is marginal. | ||
| It turned out I was wrong. | ||
| This actually became a central issue. | ||
| It became just something very simple. | ||
| For low-propensity, low-information voters. | ||
| And what did I tell you? | ||
| That this campaign would come down to that. | ||
| And it did. | ||
| And low-information, low-propensity voters doesn't mean they're stupid. | ||
| It doesn't mean they're not educated. | ||
| They're just not into politics. | ||
| They just don't follow it. | ||
| A lot of people like this just want to live their life, okay? | ||
| When all the ads and things started coming up, they looked up and they go, who can possibly believe that? | ||
| This is President Trump's revolution of common sense. | ||
| On the margin, this issue is huge. | ||
| And you saw this the other night. | ||
| When you compare and contrast, and people who don't follow politics and maybe cut in for the State of the Union for the inauguration or a couple of big things, they look in and they go, wow, the Democrats actually believe that? | ||
| Well, I've got common sense. | ||
| I can't possibly believe that. | ||
| Men in girls' bathrooms, men in women's sports, people trying to change their body types and all this weirdness that comes from it. | ||
| I can't support that. | ||
| It's actually a huge issue. | ||
| The reason this is so important, and I was kind of teasing Brandon earlier, because Brandon and other guys I know that spend a lot of time, men and women spend a lot of time in this area, were all worked up about this, and I said, guys, take the win. | ||
| But there's something deeper here. | ||
| Newsom is saying, and that's why I'd love to get a punch list of yours, and we get it over to Governor Newsom, to really say, hey, if you really believe this, are you prepared to roll back what you believe? | ||
| Because Newsom's been at the forefront. | ||
| And as you said, forever, California is everything when it comes to this political fight because they've become the most radical of all. | ||
| They're a sanctuary state. | ||
| Their legislation, what they've done against parents is horrific. | ||
| But Newsom understands if he wants to be president of the United States, he's got to somehow figure this out. | ||
| Brandon, your thoughts? | ||
| We've got about a minute, and then I want to get your, wherever I can get your writings and get access to you. | ||
| Because this is going to be very important going forward, sir. | ||
| It ain't going away. | ||
| No, it's not going away. | ||
| And I think that most people are inclined not to trust Governor Newsom and they're seeing this for the craven opportunism that it is. | ||
| And so while I would agree with you that it's significant and we should take the win because it does signal that maybe a high-profile Democrat is finally done with it and he's given permission to other Democrats to do the same, because I hear from normie Democrats all the time, we need to be vigilant because this is diabolical. | ||
| My friend January Littlejohn was seated next to Usha Vance in the balcony and President Trump highlighted her because This is an existential fight because of what it means for families and for children. | ||
| You can find all of our stuff at christianpost.com. | ||
| I'm on X at Brandon M. Show. | ||
| And check out our documentary podcast at generationindoctrination.com. | ||
| You'll get the full story about why this matters, including why California is indeed the epicenter of this madness. | ||
| Brother, thank you so much. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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| Maybe not tomorrow, probably Monday. | ||
| We've got to think this through. | ||
| The CR is coming. | ||
| I think the vote's going to be early next week. | ||
| We'll figure it all out. | ||
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You've already served time for January 6th, is that correct? | |
| Yes, the government was kind enough to provide me a federal prison stay for demonstrations. | ||
| Did you... | ||
| Just to be clear, did you burn down the Capitol on January 6th? | ||
| No, I actually would have been better off if I were an Antifa protester that would have burned $34,000 worth of federal property that was sentenced on the same day as me who assaulted an officer and while on pretrial release assaulted another officer and a civilian who got just probation and a small fine and went home. | ||
| You would have had a 95% chance of having your charges dropped. | ||
| Yeah, that's correct. | ||
| Did you assault anyone on January 6th? | ||
| Only the fabric of democracy, I hear. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| God bless you for your humor. | ||
| Travis Evans joins us. | ||
| Okay, Travis, let's get this. | ||
| I do the comedy here. | ||
| You're the straight man. | ||
| What happened on that? | ||
| That right there is quite important. | ||
| You were sentenced on the same day as who? | ||
| And what were they charged with? | ||
| And what did they serve vis-a-vis you as a J6-er? | ||
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Well, to be honest with you, Steve, having never testified before members of Congress before, it was a little bit different a hearing for me. | |
| I misspoke. | ||
| It wasn't the same day. | ||
| It was by the same judge. | ||
| For a similar issue. | ||
| So I think mine being pure demonstration, the video evidence of me shows me walking around the Capitol saying, do not break, do not damage, do not harm, and shaking hands with police officers and them thanking me for what I'm doing. | ||
| Yet the individual that was sentenced in a similar, well, for a similar event, I guess, political protested, as the Antifa called it, a self-ascribed, if you will. | ||
| Antifa member and leader, I believe his name is Jason Charter, he was able to get just some home detention probation and go home with a small fine. | ||
| Well, I got a $5,000 fine for what I did. | ||
| I destroyed nothing. | ||
| I was never even alleged by the DOJ that I destroyed any property or harmed anyone or anything of that nature. | ||
| Yet, all of a sudden, I got a short prison sentence and three years of federal probation, which, thank God, President Trump pardoned, and I was able to not have to continue that. | ||
| So thank you, President. | ||
| You and I are in a pretty constant dialogue going back and forth and talking. | ||
| What the audience finds hard to believe is President Trump, who's a pretty forceful guy, and when he says something like an executive order, he wants to make sure it's got what I call muzzle velocity gets done. | ||
| Why is it That there's still J6ers that have not been let go, whether commuted sentence or pardoned, whatever the instrumentality. | ||
| President Trump won them all out on the afternoon, the 20th of January of 2025. And here we are, sir, I believe, on the afternoon, the 6th of March of 2025. Why is your organization, why are people still having to put forth an effort to get people out of prison? | ||
| Folks at home are kind of lost about this. | ||
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Yeah, so I'm happy you asked the question, Steve. | |
| Great question. | ||
| And I think viewers need to know. | ||
| America needs to know. | ||
| And that's a great place to find it here at Bannon's War Room. | ||
| As it stands, the way this has worked out, the judge, the district judge in California that handled this case is named Jennifer Thurston. | ||
| She was met with an unopposed order to dismiss by the Department of Justice weeks ago that we filed through the attorney, George Pallas, filed this case for us on behalf of Condemned USA's effort on behalf of Mr. Benjamin Martin. | ||
| That case has been sitting before this judge. | ||
| She has not ruled on it. | ||
| After some calls to chambers and to the district judge and chambers and then, of course, to the chief judge, suddenly she recuses herself. | ||
| Now, I think a lot of people don't understand the recusal process, but without going on here in a lengthy dialogue, I will say this. | ||
| This is the same judge that... | ||
| Did his trial. | ||
| This is the same judge that did his sentence in the Eastern District of California. | ||
| And this is the same judge that then finds it a time to recuse herself before issuing the order to dismiss. | ||
| Essentially, she played political games with this man. | ||
| She's a Biden appointee, Judge Jennifer Thurston in the Eastern District of California. | ||
| No shock. | ||
| And this individual recused herself within hours of the recusal motion. | ||
| A recusal order by the judge. | ||
| The chief district judge steps in, signs the order, and Benjamin Martin is ordered released from prison. | ||
| Now, as of about 40 minutes ago when I last looked, he was yet to be out. | ||
| It's possible that it's happened in the time since I've looked, but Benjamin Martin should be out today. | ||
| He was ordered released from prison today, and the BOP had that order in front of them. | ||
| Hold it, hold it, hold it. | ||
| Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. | ||
| Are you telling us... | ||
| That a judge that had the case, tried, sentenced the guy, this thing's years. | ||
| You're telling me she recused herself just for the simple reason, because the judge, her boss, signed it right away, that essentially she didn't want her signature on the guy's release, which it sounds like? | ||
| Is that why she did this, despite this guy, that her name, having gone all the way through, she didn't want to sign it, and so she just recused herself? | ||
| Is that what you're implying? | ||
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Well, Steve, you're much far too generous to the federal district judges. | |
| I'm not implying anything. | ||
| I'm telling you outright that this is the leftist team that's still in play, and this is what's happening. | ||
| This is the holdout, the holdover from the Biden administration, the people that do not respect the presidential authority, and will only use the executive office authority on a presidential pardon. | ||
| Okay, so as you condemn USA, you're doing all this great work. | ||
| As we sit here right now, let's assume Ben's out or BOP's processing, he'll be out in a little while. | ||
| How many other folks that are considered J6 prisoners are still in some sort of confinement, either federal or something else, that are not free back at their homes, walking the street as free men and women, sir? | ||
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Well, you know, Steve, if you had asked me this question early, maybe late last week, I would have given you a different number. | |
| After being on the war room, I have been getting calls from January 6th defendants around the country or their family that are incarcerated that have not yet been released that we didn't know. | ||
| We're being held. | ||
| We were unaware of these charges and issues that have arisen from January 6th, from the events from the raids, where, you know, by the way, don't forget that an FBI agent went to prison for planting evidence and stealing evidence, excuse me, from an individual in Houston. | ||
| So these things have happened. | ||
| And these same... | ||
| Situated people, similarly situated people of January 6th, are currently incarcerated around the country. | ||
| We found one in Alabama. | ||
| We recently found another one. | ||
| And I'm yet to confirm some of these other calls, and I haven't been able to get to them. | ||
| I actually got one this morning, and I wasn't able to get to it. | ||
| I was in the midst of something else, but I'm going to know probably by tomorrow. | ||
| Steve. | ||
| We're finding more J6ers that people didn't know about. | ||
| And one of them was a friend calling and telling us that this person's incarcerated. | ||
| Now, not fully verified, but at least three more this last eight days have come up that have been verified that are incarcerated. | ||
| But hang on. | ||
| You're messing with me now. | ||
| But hold it. | ||
| DOJ is under friendly hands right now. | ||
| We've got Pam Bondi over there. | ||
| And look, Pam's... | ||
| Hit a speed bump or two on certain things that she should have been focused on and maybe she didn't get the information. | ||
| She says she's correcting that. | ||
| But she's in charge of the building. | ||
| Todd Blanche just got confirmed. | ||
| I think yesterday at noon he took over. | ||
| You got Emil Bovee. | ||
| We got a great team over there. | ||
| You got Cash at the FBI. I think next Tuesday or Wednesday Dan Bongino shows up. | ||
| These are our guys. | ||
| How can it be... | ||
| Either BOP reports, and BOP is a mess. | ||
| I will tell you, I'm on a committee or working with Jared and Peter Navarro and others that are into prison reform. | ||
| We're not, you know, it shouldn't be lawsome people. | ||
| We've been working on this since the morning after President Trump won. | ||
| There's not been a new head of BOP named. | ||
| As you know, the system over there has got issues, and it's taking, you know, to find reformers and people to do it, it's not easy. | ||
| But BOP... Reports to DOJ, and DOJ reports to Pam Bondi. | ||
| How possibly, on March 6th, sir, could we have any, any people still incarcerated, even at a state level or some other charge? | ||
| President Trump said... | ||
| I'm pardoning these people. | ||
| I want them out. | ||
| If the ones that he didn't agree with pardons, he's commuting, and I understand those guys are back in the process of getting a pardon, but everybody's home or should be home. | ||
| How can we be sitting here on the 6th of March and you're telling me, hey, not only that some people are not out, but every time you come on, I get a few more calls of other guys that are buried in the system. | ||
| Sir. | ||
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Steve, so one, thank you to you and Bandits War Room for having us on because without the war room, I probably may have not have known of these people for some more time. | |
| We're addressing these matters. | ||
| We intend to address these matters. | ||
| We're working now with some new members of council for these other parties of these cases that have come to our attention. | ||
| I'm not ready to state these. | ||
| I want to make certain that we make the right statements. | ||
| We're 100% when we come on your show and provide information. | ||
| I know that these people are incarcerated. | ||
| I want to make sure. | ||
| That it's absolutely 100% applicable. | ||
| And I believe that it is because looking at the case up front, seeing what I've seen, I can't find any other reason. | ||
| The only thing I can think is that there's something going on that happened in prison. | ||
| But we're not seeing that. | ||
| We don't see any more charges. | ||
| So I think it's going to be very important in the coming days that people will come to be aware of their J6ers sprinkled around the nation, potentially. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| There we freeze. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So there's J6ers around the nation. | ||
| That are currently incarcerated and have not been released. | ||
| And if it's anything like what we're seeing out of this Judge Jennifer Thurston and what we're seeing on these issues, we have some serious problems and serious accountability issues for people that don't respect the office of the president. | ||
| Well, Thurston himself ought to come up with some sort of judicial charge for playing games like that. | ||
| Brother, where do people go to find out more about your group and more about the efforts you're putting in for everybody, J6 and others? | ||
| People are going to want to know. | ||
| Website and then social media. | ||
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Yeah, Steve, that's going to be at CondemnedUSA.com and our website. | |
| Please consider being a monthly subscriber. | ||
| That's very important to the action that we continue to take on behalf of American citizens and those rights that are being trampled. | ||
| And then you can also find me at Trennis at CondemnedUSA.com on Twitter. | ||
| We certainly appreciate the abandoned forum and the wonderful people here. | ||
| Steve, may I give you just one more thing before we go? | ||
| There's some news on Tyler Burleson just before the show. | ||
| So, the district attorney is refusing to communicate with counsel currently. | ||
| That is an absolute slight against the office of the judiciary there. | ||
| This is insanity that the bench is happening. | ||
| So, I know that counsel is in touch with Chambers on this case, on Tyler Burleson. | ||
| That's a very important matter. | ||
| And then Tina Peters, you know, we're involved in that as well. | ||
| And I'm telling you that we're not... | ||
| We're representing McSweeney as the one we're representing that. | ||
| It's a fantastic issue and what's going on. | ||
| But we are prepared with our amicus brief for that for the Colorado Supreme Court or the U.S. District Court or the U.S. Supreme Court, whichever way that rides, Steve. | ||
| But there's a lot to come. | ||
| And don't forget John Woods. | ||
| Remember John Woods. | ||
| I'm going to send you that video that's been made from John Woods for his part and effort. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| No, Tina Peters, Pat McSweeney was from the same, not just neighborhood, but the same street I was as a kid. | ||
| My mom and his mom were best friends. | ||
| He's one of the best lawyers in the country. | ||
| He's all over Tina, as Peter's case, and so is President Trump. | ||
| It's a tough one. | ||
| And the guys in Colorado are these radicals that are trying to keep a, what, a 69, 70-year-old Gold Star mother behind in prison. | ||
| It's absolutely sick. | ||
| But they're really good people that are doing a ton of work behind the scenes. | ||
| Trenus, thank you so much. | ||
| We've got to bounce. | ||
| Appreciate you, sir. | ||
| Good work over there. | ||
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Hey, thanks for having me, Steve. | |
| Have a great day. | ||
| These folks that do this every day, the Trenus Evans of the World Patients, I mean, it's so frustrating the way they hammer, hammer, hammer. | ||
| And look, you've got Trump as president. | ||
| Think about that. | ||
| I mean, that's how dug in these people are. | ||
| Two things. | ||
| Jason Medical. | ||
| I'm about to bring on Forrest Chu. | ||
| And, Forrest, we're going to talk about really a blockbuster article in the Wall Street Journal today by Alex Leary. | ||
| Alex is one of the best reporters at the Wall Street Journal. | ||
| I think he happens to be one of the best reporters in this country. | ||
| It's an amazing piece, and I wanted to end the show today with it. | ||
| But I want to make sure the Chinese Communist Party is just not going to sit there. | ||
| President Trump, I think the strategy is pretty straightforward, not just with the terrorists, but all the other moves that are being made, including bringing... | ||
| Taiwan, semiconductor manufacturing over here in Arizona with $100 billion, what, $25 billion a year for four years. | ||
| Other thing, Apple, bringing Apple back. | ||
| We're at economic war, and as the new federal state, I'm one of the co-founders with Miles Guo about decoupling is one of the central issues about how to take down the CCP. One of the strategic advantages they will have is... | ||
| Active pharmaceutical ingredients and generic drugs, they have made a strategic decision. | ||
| This was not simply about making money. | ||
| There are other ways to make money. | ||
| They make a lot of money, don't get me wrong, but this is a strategic asset. | ||
| In case the balloon goes up, they can literally cut you off. | ||
| From your drugs. | ||
| That's why Jace Medical took Rosemary Gibson's monumental book, China Rx, and turned it into a business. | ||
| Dr. Sean Rollins and team. | ||
| Make sure you go to jacemedical.com slash bandit and check it out today. | ||
| Get ahead of the curve. | ||
| Look, everything we do is to get you information from the sponsors. | ||
| Drill down here. | ||
| I think it will shock you, stun you, what the Chinese Communist Party has done in regards to generic medicines and accurate pharmaceutical ingredients. | ||
| Go check it out today. | ||
| Forrest, you're the senior member of the New Federation of China now. | ||
| This article, you and I have talked about this. | ||
| We've talked about the things that are in this article a lot, but this tied it all together. | ||
| Basically, Alex Leary says she is very nervous. | ||
| They are looking at a model of the Soviet Union from back in the '60s and '70s when they were kind of contained and isolated and then eventually a guy like Reagan came in and took them down, that the same thing could be playing out here with President Trump's grand strategy. | ||
| As someone spends his living trying to free Lao-Bai-Jing, your thoughts on, is this accurate, this piece, and what should we take from it, sir? | ||
| Okay, thank you. | ||
| I think this piece is a great piece, absolutely, but there is a different situation here. | ||
| CCP is different than the Soviet Union. | ||
| The CCP now has the capital, has the deep infiltration into this country. | ||
| I think there are two issues we have to address directly, not to avoid or to kind of conceal it. | ||
| Because the first issue, very important, is intelligence. | ||
| Since Xi Jinping took over the country, he actually intensified intelligence, counterintelligence for USA. So they have... | ||
| With the help from corrupted intelligence guys in the U.S. agency, they were able to compromise the operations in China. | ||
| So that's one thing that's very important. | ||
| Basically, we have an old scene in China, right? | ||
| You know yourself, you have to know your enemy, then you will win every battle. | ||
| So if we lose that intelligence in China, basically you will lose in every battle. | ||
| Whether it's trade war, whether it's other war. | ||
| We already have this report back in the first term, President Trump's term. | ||
| During the trade war, trade negotiation, people leaked that secret to the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| So that tells you how bad it is in our intelligence community. | ||
| So the CCP knows almost everything, whether it's Congress or whether it's Defense Department. | ||
| They have done this through their deep infiltration into this country. | ||
| They have deep infiltration in the financial sector, in the high-tech sector. | ||
| Also, think about all the top 100 law firms. | ||
| How many of those firms has office in Beijing and Shanghai? | ||
| If you invest all those firms, their document, their system has been hacked. | ||
| Actually, by the Chinese security law, all those firms in China, they have to submit their document and give access to Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| So imagine that. | ||
| If they gave access to the Communist Party, they will use this access to hack into The office in the U.S. But all those firms probably is the contractors and service for the defense department, for the Congress, for a lot of major agencies for the U.S. government. | ||
| This tells you how bad it is. | ||
| So think about the technology sector. | ||
| Because they have, Miles told us a long time ago, they've infiltrated this country so much. | ||
| Back 2015, I believe, Mao told us they already steal the technology for F-35. | ||
| Last year, we saw on the aviation exploration exhibition, the Chinese already have J-35, which is exactly the technology coming from F-35. | ||
| Although they cannot compare 100% with F-35, but they are close enough and they can make it cheap. | ||
| Example just happened with DeepSeek, right? | ||
| They steal all the data from OpenAI, Google, and then they were able to use the GPUs, which was already sanctioned by the U.S. government, but they were still able to get those GPUs and to develop this AI model, which wiped off $1 trillion from the market. | ||
| That tells you how much damage they can create with those infiltrations, with those informations. | ||
| So this is very dangerous to the U.S. And the Communist Party knows too well. | ||
| They will utilize the pendulum, in fact, because they already have the secret meeting back in Beijing after two years, after midterm election. | ||
| After four years, maybe the Democrat Party will come back, and then they will have their opportunities to strike again. | ||
| So that's the real danger. | ||
| Forrest, we've got to bounce. | ||
| Where do people go to find out more about New Federal State and your shows? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| NFSC TV on Gather. | ||
| NFSC Speaks on X and on Gather. | ||
| Everybody, I want you to read this Alex Leary piece from the Wall Street Journal. | ||
| And I want you to think about what... | ||
| Brother Forrest just told us about the infiltration into the United States. | ||
| Forrest, thank you so much. | ||
| Love you, brother. | ||
| New federal state of China. | ||
| Honored to be one of the co-founders. | ||
| Tomorrow at 10 a.m. | ||
| Eastern Standard Time, we will return with the War Room. | ||
| Until then, make sure you go check out Birch Gold. | ||
| I want everybody to understand what a hedge is. | ||
| As Scott Besson told you at the Economic Club today, it ain't going to be smooth sailing because you're doing a major restructuring of the American economy to make it more accessible and fairer to the workers of this nation. | ||
| See you tomorrow morning at 10 a.m. |
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