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March 4, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4312: Time To Make Things Right; US Gov. To Settle Lawsuit With Babbitts
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of them.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
Mega Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
mike lindell
War Room.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon
Tuesday, 4 March, year of our Lord, 2025, State of the Union Day, our joint address to Congress.
We'll be covering it all day and into the evening with the entire tremendous reportage we have here at Real America's Voice, the channel of MAGA and President Trump.
I want to go back to Spencer.
Spencer, and I think I've got a, do I have a Howard Lutnik clip?
Can I play that?
Let me play, I want to play this Howard Lutnik clip and then Spencer.
I want to bring you in for your comments.
It's about the tariffs, the economic warfare that kicked off last night, although I want people to know, and Spencer will talk about this when he comes back, Canada, Mexico, EU, and China, along with Japan and South Korea, have been at this against us for decade after decade after decade.
Let's play Howard Lutnick, the Secretary of Commerce, this morning.
howard lutnick
Remember, the process in America for tariffs is that the president launched a study, and those are the rules of tariffs in America, and that study is finished on April 2nd.
unidentified
So on April 2nd, the president will have all the tools in his arsenal that he wants to do to reset tariffs.
So he will be addressing all of those products in Canada.
The fact that, you know, Canada has a national sales tax, another way to say it is a national tariff on our on our products.
And we sell, you know, they import from us very little and we export and they export to us huge amounts.
So the idea is that's going to be reset.
But that starts April 2nd.
Now we just, you know, people say, oh, it's only a small amount of opioids.
You know, they're only killing 75,000 Americans.
steve bannon
OK, this is more than just fentanyl.
This is a major reset and a rethinking of the business model of this country.
And as Spencer said, we've been getting raped and pillaged by the world since the 1970s.
Spencer, I want to put a lie to, they're running around, this is going to cause prices to go up, that the American working man and woman are going to pay for this.
Your response, sir?
spencer morrison
Prices aren't going to go up, Steve.
We know this for two reasons.
First, we understand that historically, And second, the economic logic makes it pretty clear.
So let's talk about history.
President Trump imposed tariffs during his first term.
Did prices go up?
No.
We actually had deflationary pressure on consumer goods in this country.
Why?
Because the economy was growing.
The reality is that when the economy grows, prices are going to go down.
Because your average person is making more money, right?
I mean, we can't just consider prices in a vacuum.
Prices are one side of the equation.
Wages are the other.
And what we've seen is that since 1974, when America started running this massive chronic trade deficit, we've shed so many good-paying manufacturing jobs, and wages have stagnated to such a degree.
The purchasing power for your average person hasn't actually increased.
In fact, your average household in 1974 was able to spend more on their wants than their needs than they can today.
So your average American is actually worse off now than back in the 1970s.
And this is directly caused by the trade deficit.
steve bannon
Exactly.
Sending all the jobs overseas.
And we financed it.
Hang on one second, Spencer.
I need you around because we're going to get back to this.
By the way, the book is reshoring.
Spencer, where can people get the book?
spencer morrison
So the book is available on Amazon.com.
It's called Reshore, How Tariffs Will Bring Our Jobs Home and Revive the American Dream.
Tariffs are going to do it.
We've lost 7 million manufacturing jobs and at least 7 million more service industry jobs.
Tariffs and President Trump are going to bring those back home.
You can also get it directly from Calamo Press.
steve bannon
Spencer, hang on one second.
I'm going to come right back to you.
I want to go to Rome and Ben Harnwell.
Ben, and this is all inextricably linked.
This is why it's so exquisite.
It's coming together.
And coming together on President Trump's Day of the State of the Union.
This is why we're having wall-to-wall coverage here on Real America's Voice Day.
We will be back at 8 o'clock all the way to 11 to cover it with the tremendous team of Real America's Voice.
All the voices of Real America's Voice are going to be pitching in tonight to break this down and give you full analysis.
Because now we're in it.
And President Trump has thought about this a long time.
He's built up a team over the last four years.
It's why it's providential that we had that little break.
Of four years, so we can see the demonic nature of the enemies of our country and our Constitution.
But there's been a lot of activity the last couple of days in Europe, Ben.
You're beat.
And particularly the New York Post is just breaking a story about Zelensky.
I cannot believe this guy.
President Trump's theory.
Excuse me.
Zelensky has no cards.
That Europe has no cards.
And he's calling their bluff.
Your thoughts, sir?
ben harnwell
Well, on the note.
Card's point.
Our take on this, as it was sort of a week ago, a little more than a week ago, eight, nine days ago, was that there was one card that Zelensky could play, and that was that he could pivot to China and basically say, look, I'll give you guys the rights to the minerals.
You reconstruct my country.
I'll obviously take my 10% cut.
And Ukraine will be a protectorate of China rather than the United States.
A lot of people poo-pooed that.
I noticed, however, on Saturday, Andrei Yermak, the chief of staff, Zelensky's chief of staff, and this has been circulating on social media and what have you, in a 25-second excerpt, basically said that they are now looking and talking to China.
Now, I'm not saying by that, Steve, that this pivot to China on behalf of the Ukrainians is their preferred option.
I don't think it is.
What it is, is a potential negotiating tool to because this is what both sides are doing.
It's what the U.S. is doing.
It's what Ukraine is doing.
It's a negotiating tool for Zelensky to signal to Trump, look, it's not true that we don't have any cards.
There is one thing that we could do, and that is prostitute ourselves to your mortal enemies.
steve bannon
Yeah, but hang on, but hang on, but hang on.
A Ukraine situation is a subset of the rapprochement with Russia.
The rapprochement with Russia means, by definition, China's not going to be an easier...
But just put a pin on it for a second, because I've got some breaking news here.
Just hang on for a second, Ben.
I've got Tom Fenton.
Tom, Gateway Pun is breaking a story that the U.S. government is prepared to settle your lawsuit that you brought.
I think, to support Ashley Babbitt, her mom and her husband and the family, about this Ashley Babbitt situation, I assume you can't give us any details.
I just want to know if that's true.
Are we making some progress on, I think it was a $30 million suit for the family that Judicial Watch brought, sir?
unidentified
Yeah, the news was first reported by Paul Bedard over at the Examiner, and we filed a joint status report with the court.
Because by now, previously the Biden administration wanted to shut down a large part of Ashley's lawsuit.
And now, as we detail in the report to the court, we're looking to try to resolve some or all of the issues.
And, you know, we obviously want justice for Ashley.
And I would hope the Trump administration similarly wants justice for Ashley.
So if you're looking at that report, that suggests that there may be an end in sight without us having to go through a tooth-and-nail court battle with the Trump administration over whether Ashley's shooting death was justified.
steve bannon
So what did you argue in the case?
Is this going to lead, if they settle?
And we're not going to get a chance for you guys to present this overwhelming evidence in a court of law to adjudicate it.
Is there a next step?
Is there something else?
Because people obviously consider you guys heroes for stepping up and underwriting and being the tip of the spear in the suit to actually get it out there.
But at the end of the day, people do want justice for the perpetrator.
unidentified
Well, there are two issues.
We sued the government, not Not Lieutenant Byrd, now Captain Byrd, who was given a promotion rather than held accountable by the U.S. Capitol Police.
So this is a lawsuit against the United States government holding them accountable for what Byrd did and the failure to keep them well-trained.
And obviously it was an ambush.
People at the scene said that Ashley was murdered.
And then...
Babbitt, excuse me, then Byrd was protected for months.
We didn't know his name for months until he came out, I think to Lester Holt.
We found out he was being holed up in a military base, Joint Base Andrews, for six months.
We found out he had a radio, he issued on the radio a report, shots fired, shots fired.
He was the only person who fired a shot.
We found out that he had shot a car up.
Looks like he lied about it.
His car was being stolen.
He just fired after the car like a madman.
So compare how Byrd was treated with every other officer involved in a controversial or any shooting, and you can see there was a terrible disconnect.
Now, he was never prosecuted.
I don't think he was ever seriously investigated.
We found that out.
So the question is, Is the acting U.S. Attorney Martin here?
Will Pam Bondi, will they, in addition to settling this case, if they do settle, will they take another look at any criminal liability for Mr. Byrd?
I don't know if they're going to do that.
And the other big deal is, who was protecting him in Congress?
Who was protecting him in Congress?
Because given his record...
Look, they had to come in and lend him a shotgun because he couldn't buy one on his own because his record was so awful.
How was this guy allowed to be there?
Forget about Ashley's shooting.
He shouldn't have been there at all based on his record.
steve bannon
Tom, this is why I think people were so enthusiastic about what you guys had done and stuff.
I'm taking leadership in this.
Go back and explain to me.
You just said this was obviously an ambush.
Were you prepared to prove that in a court of law in the civil trial that this, in fact, was an ambush?
unidentified
Yeah, he was sitting behind a column.
Look at the video.
He's sitting behind the column.
He didn't see who he was shooting at by his own admission.
He couldn't really tell.
He popped out and shot her.
Was she waiting for someone to crawl through that space?
And I look at that video, and I see Ashley trying to escape to safety.
What a terrible time that, what a terrible incident that was.
I still can't believe he shot her.
I just can't believe he shot her.
Laying in wait, waiting for someone to walk through, and then shooting, shooting into a crowd of civilians and law enforcement, by the way.
I'm surprised cops haven't sued over this.
steve bannon
Is this settlement an admission of guilt, at least on the civil side, by the United States government?
Obviously the Trump administration had nothing to do with it, but at the time, is it an admission of guilt that at the time the government was at fault and liable for her death?
unidentified
I don't want to get too far ahead here.
The statement says we're trying to resolve the issues.
We're a long way off from any settlement.
But I would hope that President Trump would have a personal interest in ensuring there's justice for Ashley.
We've highlighted it, obviously, on our social media feeds, but he's talked about it repeatedly.
He's noted the only official homicide victim on January 6th, yes, I know others died, but the only finding of homicide was of Ashley Babbitt.
And the question is, was that an unlawful homicide?
And I think the evidence shows it was.
steve bannon
Tom, where can people get you?
unidentified
It would be not a perfect step for accountability, right?
Because we highlighted the other accountability that can take place, but it'd be a significant one.
steve bannon
How do people get you on social media, sir?
unidentified
We're all over social media.
JudicialWatch.org, Judicial Watch on Twitter, Rumble, YouTube, Facebook.
Of course, I'm on Twitter, too, at Tom Fitton.
We're just relentless.
And the case is proceeding.
We've got work to do, and we're going to be prepared to make our case in court, and I just hope.
Frankly, I can't imagine the Trump administration would want to go to trial on this.
I just can't imagine it.
steve bannon
Tom, I don't think anybody wants to go to trial against...
I think I would never want to go to trial against Tom Fitton.
Let me say that, or Judicial Watch.
Chris Farrell on the team.
You guys are the best.
Thank you, brother.
Fenton, you're a hero.
You know why Fenton's a hero?
He doesn't take the easy ones.
He takes the tough ones.
And Tom Fenton's a winner.
That's a brother who'll get down in a trench with you and fight.
Short break, back to Rome.
Maybe even to Canada when we return.
unidentified
For all of us, frankly.
But I think we can be weared by the incredible solidarity that our society showed with our companies, a civil society, and indigenous societies.
The entire society is unanimous.
We have to talk to our American partners.
Those tariffs are a very bad idea at the same time.
Working in external to eliminate obstacles between trade between our states and to find new markets throughout the world, to have better economy, more solid, more robust.
In the last few years, I discussed with leaders all over the world.
My message hasn't changed.
Canada is a reliable partner, and our doors are open.
During the last week, we made more efforts to increase our collaboration with Mexico, that is also a victim of these tariffs.
Together, we will find other ways of working and rely one with Each other to confront this.
Confronted with this uncertainty, Canadians show much solidarity.
You share products to help companies.
I saw you change travel plans to stay and remain in Canada.
That you were making more efforts to support small businesses and workers.
I saw that you defended your culture to make it shine even more.
I saw you encourage your athletes with unwavering support and enthusiasm.
I cannot be more proud of my fellow Canadians.
Something else I want to ask you.
Ask from you.
Do not abandon.
Do not fight for your country.
Do everything you can to choose Canada, to defend Canada.
we will go through this, these difficult times together.
I've never been so optimistic after seeing how you have reacted in the past weeks and And we will go through, we will survive these.
steve bannon
As soon as Denver, as soon as we have it recut, I want to get the English part he started with.
Trudeau said flat out, this is going to be catastrophic for Canada.
And he kind of begged.
I didn't say begged, that's too harsh a term.
He made a case to President Trump to let's slow this down.
Let's continue to work through it.
But he was blunt with the Canadian people about how catastrophic this will be.
Ben Harnwell, you heard it, your thoughts, because President Trump's saying the EU's going to get the same treatment.
We had folks on yesterday, and Spencer, I think, would reiterate this, that the European Union, which President Trump says was set up to screw the United States, and he was absolutely correct.
It's been one of the worst trading partners at all.
What is the perspective from Europe of this expanding economic war, sir?
ben harnwell
Well, it's one of panic and fear, because as Ursula von der Leyen said this morning, they're now going to be wrestling with, I think, €800 billion worth of increases in defence.
Spending vis-a-vis.
Of course, there's no money in which to do this.
One thing I've noticed which is particularly absent, however, on behalf of the European elites talking to their peoples is actually the justice of what President Trump is talking about.
I think off the top of my head, we're talking about tariffs that German car manufacturers...
The Germany places on American car manufacturers as 10%, and I think currently America charges just 2% on German cars being exported into America.
So it's massively unfair, as President Trump has always been saying.
And that is one part of the argument that von der Leyen, the Commission, the various Olaf Scholz or Olaf Rudigmer, the presuming new Chancellor, this is something that they're not actually...
Explaining to their own peoples.
They just say, this is Trump.
He's withdrawing from global leadership.
He's being reckless and chaotic.
But they're never actually explaining to their own people what President Trump's justification is.
And I think when the old peoples find that and they do their own research and they look into this and they realize that actually...
Trump is not exactly being unreasonable here.
He just wants a level playing field.
All that will do is will cement in European people's minds that they have been catastrophically lied to by their respective governments.
And if Ursula von der Leyen tries to move ahead in raising anything near €800 worth of extra defence spending, the consequence of people realising that they have been lied to by their respective governments.
Combined with the lack of money that they will have in their own wallets, at election times, is going to accelerate this movement that we've already seen over the last 10 years due to the immigration crisis.
And there's going to be a massive popular upheaval of block votes from, you'll see the centre-right, the Christian Democrat, just absolute collapse.
And people will just flood over to the very political parties that they're trying to make illegal and suppress right now.
So this is just to watch, Steve, watch what's going on, as we do every day on the Warren, because the elites, the sociopathic overlords, as we call them, are creating right now the very circumstances of a political movement that they claim to be most opposed are creating right now the very circumstances of a political movement I want to bring in, Ben, hang on for a second, and Spencer, hang on, I want to bring on Scarlett Karaleva from Netherlands.
steve bannon
You've mentioned to me many times about Ursula Vandele.
What about her move?
Was it 800 billion euros?
How is this going to set, particularly with young people in the EU?
unidentified
Well, to begin with, no one in Europe wants to continue this war, except a bunch of morons that are actually controlling us right now.
Because what is important to know is that we have the European Union.
Commission, which is just basically a bunch of unelected bureaucrats who are dictating what to do, what not to do, who wants to spend now 800 billion euros.
This 800 billion is supposed to be invested into the military, but it's going to create more deaths.
And this is the perfect way to actually describe the European Commission.
Whenever there is a crisis...
They will take it, and they will make sure that they can use it to gain more power.
They've done it already during the Euro crisis with the Euro bonds, which basically meant that the rich countries had to pay for the poor countries.
They did it during COVID with the next-generation EU, and that money was spent on, let's say, Lamborghinis, Rolexes by some bunch of criminals.
And yet again, they have found another crisis they can use.
To capitulate on, which is now the war in Ukraine.
And this is the thing that the European Commission does.
They take the crisis and they really try to advance the agenda of having more power in Brussels.
And the dangerous part is...
steve bannon
Hang on.
Is Ben Harnwell right from Rome?
Is this what's driving this shift to the sovereignty movement to the right?
Is this what's driving this populist nationalist, whatever nation you look at?
In Europe, is their behavior in the EU, their behavior in Brussels?
unidentified
Oh, 100%.
So the idea of the European Union once was that we would have an economical collaboration.
Well, that isn't the case anymore.
More and more, we see that the EU is really becoming this tyrannic...
European super state that is controlling every single part of all the member states.
So, for example, when we talk about defense, defense initially is actually a competence of the member states.
It's not even a competence of the European Commission.
Now what they want to do with this $800 billion is to drive new military defense economy.
But I'm sure that behind it, what they truly want is to actually get an European army.
And then what's next?
We're going to send...
An European army to the front line in Ukraine?
Is that really what we want to move towards to?
Well, if it's up to the elite, this is what will happen.
steve bannon
Scarlett, hang on for one second.
Ben Harnwell, you've made a case a minute ago that you never hear on American television.
You made a case that, hey...
The entire deck's stacked against the United States, and all Trump's doing is trying to make a level playing field for American companies and American manufacturers and American workers.
Why is that case never made?
Why does it take Ben Harnwell, not an economist, but a political commentator in Rome to make that case that you never hear in the United States?
In fact, you hear the exact opposite, that the rest of the world is blameless.
And this is all Trump being basically a psycho on economic warfare against our quote unquote allies. - Thanks.
ben harnwell
Because it's these, the socialist, our sociopathic overlords, their one significant tool that they have left in their armory is this false narrative.
Of which all the social points of authority and credibility, they bow their heads towards.
And, you know, Steve, I give them credit.
They still have about 50 percent of the population who buy into this narrative.
It's declining year by year, possibly a couple of percent, three, four percent year by year.
It's falling.
And that is a permanent.
But it's their means of maintaining power because if you look at the results of what they are able to deliver with their maladministration, it's making people...
It's poorer.
It's piling up debt.
It's destroying their quality of life.
These are the things that people can see.
And yet these are the people that, you know, what do they call themselves?
The adults in the room.
They carry themselves in a certain way.
They have a certain authority.
And people of, let's say, towards the left of the bell curve in terms of latent intelligence, they naturally give credibility and accept these people.
That is why, Steve, when you ask me this question, why do they never present these arguments?
Because they have no need to.
Why would they?
It would only serve to undermine their own credibility.
When they push out this argument that Trump is out of control, he's reckless, he's destroying people's prospects.
I'll give away because I know we've got a break.
unidentified
But this is how they maintain power.
steve bannon
Just hang on one second.
Short break.
Back in a moment.
If I can't get to it this morning, which I think we're pretty jammed, we're going to break down and have some clips from Trudeau's address to the Canadian people.
We're also playing on our other channel on Rumble right now.
The Bridge-Colby hearing.
This is very important.
This is the head policy guy for the Pentagon.
It's a second or third tier job.
Like Michael Anton's over the State Department, these are the central kind of hubs of the coordination of policy.
And if you get to, particularly after you go off air today, you might want to keep an eye on that because it's quite interesting.
His big tormentor there, I think, will be Tom Cotton, kind of the king of the neocons.
But I think Bridge Colby's going to get confirmed.
I don't think there's any doubt about that.
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Brian Glenn talked about the CR. President Trump will address it tonight.
It's going to be a fiasco.
The Democrats came out after we went on air and said they are unified, they're not going to vote for anything.
They're going to force it back on President Trump, so this one's going to be ugly.
Of course, doge overnight after our insistence that they cross the Potomac and go to the Pentagon, came out with $80 million.
That's just not good enough.
We've got to get serious about cutting expenses here.
That's what's driving inflation.
You've got to cut spending.
I don't know what's going to go on, but I'm hearing talk now, maybe a 30-day CR to get back and get these appropriations bills done, but somebody's got to get Johnson's attention that this is a first-order priority, that the reconciliations and everything you wasted time on, well, you should have had these done beforehand, but then afterwards you should have focused on the CR, getting the appropriations bill.
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I want to bring in, back to Spencer.
Spencer, I want to ask you this question that Ben kind of raises.
Why does no one ever make the case that you don't hear it?
You don't hear it on business TV. You've never seen the New York Times when CNN covers this.
You never hear the fact that every nation on Earth...
Well, I think the reality is that the people who are promoting this so-called global free trade, and it's not global free trade, it's not...
spencer morrison
Fair trade.
It's asymmetric and highly managed trade.
But in any case, they bill it as free trade.
The reality is that these people are funded by the people profiting off of the looting of America.
These big businesses, these shadowy figures behind the scenes, you know, the Klaus Schwab type elites, they own most of the mainstream media.
They are major donors to America's universities.
And as a result, they've set the tone.
For the next generation of economists and young business leaders to be supporting economic globalism.
But what is economic globalism?
It's taking America's economic advantage, it's taking our factories, it's taking our jobs, and it's taking our technology, and it's shipping it abroad to countries like China, to Mexico, to Saudi Arabia.
Part of the globalist movement.
And globalism can only succeed if America is destroyed.
So free trade is a major part of that agenda.
steve bannon
The book is reassuring.
The author is Spencer Morrison.
He's one of the leading voices on this entire economic warfare, the tariffs, all of it.
I'm sure, sir, we're going to see a lot of you in the days and weeks ahead.
Where do people go once more to the book, also your website, also all your social media?
spencer morrison
Thanks very much, Steve.
The book is available on Amazon.com.
It's called Reshore, How Tariffs Will Bring Our Jobs Home and Revive the American Dream.
You can also order it directly from Calamo Press.
I'm on social media.
You can find me on X, Real SP Morrison.
I'm also the editor-in-chief of the National Economics Editorial.
That's nationaleconomicseditorial.com.
I have a column.
You can find me on American Greatness and Blaze Media.
Thanks for having me on the show, Steve.
I really appreciate it.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
No, no, no.
This is important.
You're one of the experts.
Remember Rosemary Gibson?
Let me back up.
Last night, the Chinese Communist Party.
President Trump, oh, by the way, right before he hit the trigger on the Chinese part of it, said, you know what?
Because of fentanyl and everything else they're doing and kind of their attitude, I'm going to double it.
It's going to be 20%.
That is not a small thing.
That's kind of a monumental thing.
As I've said in here for months and months and months and months leading up to this point, the Chinese Communist Party is just not going to sit there.
We know that.
They're the mortal enemy of their own people and they're mortal enemy of the American people.
The Chinese Communist Party, and this is what I do admire about them, they're tough.
They didn't come back and like Trudeau just went there and you know Trudeau I thought gave a very good presentation to his people but he's kind of...
Just like Zelensky.
There's a new story out, and Ben's going to be here in a second.
Zelensky's trying to say, oh, let me just get back.
Let's have a redo.
Trudeau, let's have a redo.
Let's think this through.
Chinese Communist Party, in your face.
We know what this is, and we will fight you to the bitter end.
So, it's game on.
It's one of the reasons Jace Medical, they took the book of Rosemary Gibson.
Remember, Rosemary Gibson exposed all this years ago.
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And they intend to destroy the United States of America.
So it's game on.
President Trump, a historic day as he leads up to a State of the Union.
He's going to talk tonight about, it's called the, I think the overall theme is the renewal of America.
For a new golden age or about the American dream, but it's also making the case for disruption.
Disruption here at home and taking on the administrative state and disruption throughout the world.
This kind of geoeconomic and geostrategic reset.
So we'll get it tonight.
Scarlett, here's a question.
Zelensky says he wants to get back in the room with President Trump.
It's all just a giant misunderstanding.
If you were one of President Trump's advisors, would you recommend...
For him to deal with Zelensky or to move on, ma'am?
unidentified
At this point, Trump has made a promise to bring peace.
And I know that is exactly what President Trump will do.
And this is why Trump is such a monster in the art of the deal.
He noted he had to actually push Zelensky out and say, OK, come back when you're ready for peace.
And apparently Zelensky needed to be put in his place.
So I know that Trump will do exactly that.
And that's also what I would advise him.
Because what's going on now...
steve bannon
Scarlett, what...
unidentified
What I'm worried about, if he doesn't do it, it will actually get out of control in Europe.
I really want to stress out that what's actually announced, what Ursula von der Leyen announced today, could be the start of a war that will escalate on the European continent.
If there will be this amount of budget to get the military established in Europe, we'll have a European army, then there is no way back.
We need this deal because it is our only option to actually get a piece.
steve bannon
Scarlett, what's your social media?
How do people find out more about you?
How do they get to your thinking?
how did it get to your writing?
unidentified
You can find me on Twitter at X at Scarlet Scarlet.
And you can find me on TikTok at Politi Met Scarlet.
steve bannon
Scarlet, thanks so much for joining us this morning.
Very prescient.
Appreciate you.
Ben Harnwell, your favorite person, Zelensky.
New York Post is breaking stories.
Breitbart, the great Sister Martel over there.
We love her.
Frances Martel.
One of my best hires at Breitbart, along with Matt Boyle.
Talk to me about it.
Zelensky.
Is he weaseling his way back into the Oval Office?
What would you tell President Trump, sir?
ben harnwell
Steve, he's absolutely weaseling his way back into the Oval Office.
And I'm likening this to the dead zombie at the end of a horror film, just before the credits go up.
You think, oh, it's finished, it's over.
We're saved.
unidentified
And then as the camera zooms in, you see the zombie twitching.
ben harnwell
That is exactly...
And by the way, I think there are people around President Trump, including POTUS himself, that still secretly hanker to close the deal on this minerals pact.
So it's not by any means a foregone conclusion that Zelensky is wasting his time here.
Let me go to this article that you're referring to, the New York Post piece, which This is what Zelensky's put out on X. A meeting in Washington at the White House on Friday did not go the way it was supposed to be.
It's regrettable that it happened this way.
It's time to make things right.
We would like future cooperation and communication to be constructive.
And then on and on and on he goes.
He does say none of us want an endless war.
And he does thank America for its help in maintaining Ukrainian sovereignty.
But he's basically saying...
Just give me the date, I'll fly over, and I'll sign this deal.
steve bannon
But hang on, hang on.
And that's the JD thing, which I thought was excellent.
The one I didn't love was the thing.
America doesn't need...
We don't need a thank you.
We're not interested in thank you.
We're interested in peace and prosperity and to stop the shooting.
Does that imply, right there, that...
Because here's the hang-up.
They want a security guarantee, and they want our continued commitment of money.
Particularly on the warfare side.
And by the way, I disagree.
There shouldn't be any money.
Walk away from the whole thing.
The only thing we've got to do as an investigation is just walk away because this is Vietnam.
Do you believe, we've got 30 seconds, I'm going to hold you through the break.
Do you believe that even his coming back crawling on his belly, he's still implying it needs an American security guarantee because the Europeans really can't give one, sir.
ben harnwell
Absolutely.
It definitely implies that.
And let's not forget, President Trump himself said in that famous Oval Office scene, he actually said, it was about five seconds long, but he definitely said that under this agreement, America would continue to rearm Ukraine.
It would continue with those rearmaments.
And that's horrific, Steve.
Absolutely horrific.
unidentified
Yeah, that five seconds was not the best.
steve bannon
But President Trump, I think, is drawing a line right here.
Our recommendation is you've had it with Zelensky.
He's a punk.
Cannot be trusted.
The Minerals deal will be, you know, just even to get to a closing of a real deal will take forever.
It'll draw everybody in.
It's a huge opportunity cost.
Just walk away.
Vanderlein wants to raise $800 billion.
Have at it, sister.
Have a good time with that one.
Short commercial break.
We're going to return with Ben Harnwell.
On the State of the Union Day in the world.
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Always checking in with my European colleague, Ben Harnwell.
Ben, tariffs, the Ukraine war, give me a couple of thoughts.
I'm going to try to keep you up late tonight, Ben, and get you on the 5 o'clock show, preamble to the State of the Union, but we'll see.
Tell me your thoughts on the level playing field that President Trump wants that started this economic war.
ben harnwell
Absolutely, Steve.
I'll just finish off the Ukraine thing.
I'll post the link, folks, to Francis Martel's article on Rumble, and you'll also find it on Getter.
Zelensky says he's ready for a redo with Trump after Oval Office fiasco.
I'll post that.
Francis Martel, a great writer, used to edit my articles for you, Steve, 10 years ago.
Okay, so let's go back to the tariffs thing here.
I've found...
This is the situation.
Passenger cars, United States, the US currently imposes a 2.5% tariff on all imported autos, whereas the European Union imposes on America a 10% tariff on US vehicles.
Now, I don't condemn European countries for doing that.
They were fighting in their country's best interest.
They were fighting in their domestic car production's best interest.
Do you know who I condemn?
I condemn successive generations of American leadership of both parties that sat back and did absolutely nothing to protect US domestic car production until Donald Trump comes along.
And so he's going to even out the field a little bit.
And all these people who did nothing are now criticizing him for it.
unidentified
Why?
ben harnwell
Because he's showing them up.
He's showing up the fact that their sheer performative uselessness, you know, Scranton, Joe and all this, didn't do absolutely anything for Pennsylvania.
Absolutely nothing.
And these are all the people and all their friends and all the smart aleck sitting over there bow ties on NBC. None of these people ever did anything for American domestic car production.
Donald Trump is warming up his sleeves and he's going out there and he's fighting for American interests.
And you saw this in the Oval Office on Friday.
We had, in that 15-minute thing, I've never seen anything like it in my life.
You actually saw an American president losing his temper because he thought Americans were getting a bad deal.
One of the best things I've ever seen in my life.
steve bannon
Thanks, Steve.
Best.
Where do people go, Ben?
You're already putting stuff up all day.
It's amazing.
You're absolutely dead spot on.
Got to get you as one of the surrogates over the White House, I think.
Where do people go, Ben?
ben harnwell
On Getter, my social media platform of choice.
Tap in my surname, Hanwell.
And then I do have some, even if I do say so myself, Steve, I do have some pretty hot posts at the top of my feed right now.
Thanks, Steve.
God bless.
Catch you tomorrow.
I doubt it'll be 5 p.m.
this afternoon.
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Keith Ellison has not put you out of business yet, sir.
And people should know, and behind President Trump, and I say this as a former convict, actually I was an inmate, I'm not a convict.
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And Peter Navarro, that you actually are the number two guy that's coming after Lindell.
And here's why, because they still know they're stealing elections.
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You know, they got him out of the way.
President Trump is very involved in the Tina Peters situation.
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You heard Tom Fitton about Ashley Babbitt.
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We'll leave you with the right stuff.
Charlie Kirk is next.
Jack Posobiec after that.
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