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Episode 4306: War On The Cartel; Cutting Off American Spending Abroad
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steve bannon
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todd bensman
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brian glenn
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chris hayes
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donald j trump
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karl rove
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jake tapper
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volodymyr zelenskyy
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unidentified
Thank you so much.
It's a big team.
It's very good to see you.
How are you?
Happy to see you.
We know each other.
It's not the first meeting, and I'm very proud that Ukraine has such big strategic, even not only partner friends like the United States.
So we are very thankful for this.
We're here today as a show of support.
donald j trump
Show of support.
We have committee chairs, we have the president.
brian glenn
Mr. President, I've got two questions for you.
You think ultimately your legacy will be the peacemaker and not the president that led this country into another war and ended foreign wars?
donald j trump
I hope it will.
unidentified
I mean, I hope I'm going to be...
Remembered as a peacemaker.
This would be a great thing if we could do this.
I'm doing this to save lives more than anything else.
donald j trump
Second is to save a lot of money, but I consider that to be far less important.
So I hope I'm going to thank you, Brian, for that question.
unidentified
It was a nice question.
I hope I'll be known and recognized as a peacemaker.
This would be a great thing to solve.
donald j trump
This is a very We won every swing state.
We won the popular vote by millions and millions of votes.
unidentified
We won everything.
The districts.
donald j trump
If you look at the areas of red, take a look at a map.
unidentified
This was a big mandate.
This is one of the things.
I said, we're going to get this thing settled.
donald j trump
If we didn't win, I think this would have, this could have very well ended up in a third world war.
And that would not, that would not have been a good situation.
unidentified
A lot of questions.
Let's start from the beginning.
Sure.
First of all, during the war, everybody has problems.
Even you, but you have nice ocean.
And don't feel now.
volodymyr zelenskyy
But you will feel it in the future.
unidentified
God bless.
donald j trump
You don't know that.
unidentified
God bless.
God bless.
You will not have war.
donald j trump
Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
We're trying to solve a problem.
Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
unidentified
I'm not telling you.
donald j trump
Because you're in no position to dictate that.
unidentified
Remember this.
donald j trump
You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel.
We're going to feel very good.
unidentified
You will feel influenced.
donald j trump
We're going to feel very good and very strong.
unidentified
You will feel influenced.
donald j trump
You're right now not in a very good position.
You've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position, and he happens to be right about it.
unidentified
You're not in a good position.
donald j trump
You don't have the cards right now.
With us, you start having cards.
I'm not playing cards.
I'm very serious, Mr. President.
I'm very serious.
You're gambling with the lives of millions of people.
You're gambling with World War III. You're gambling with World War III. And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country.
It's back to you.
Far more than a lot of people said.
unidentified
So, that was then, and now this is today.
Carl, what was your read on what you watched on TV for the past 30 minutes?
karl rove
Well, this is why diplomacy should never be conducted in public.
I'm confident, and we now know that, for example, in World War II, there were heated disagreements between Franklin Roosevelt, Joseph Stalin, and Winston Churchill.
But we didn't see them broadcast on TV, and what we saw were statements that came out of these big conferences in which the Allies made an effort to move forward together.
It is going to be incredibly hard to walk back from the kind of animosity that we saw in that room today and to walk back some of those statements.
It could have been done if cameras had not been running.
But the only winner out of today is Vladimir Putin.
This is a mistake to have it broadcast.
It was a mistake for Zelensky to get his...
Get his dander up and it was a mistake for the president and the vice president to be so public in their comments.
This was not the moment that should have been televised.
They should have had those conversations out of camera sight and I'm confident that then they would have been able to find a way to move forward.
But it's really hard when you've had the kind of coverage of this moment that we've now had.
unidentified
Yeah, and we're looking live.
steve bannon
Hell, for the first time in our history, the first time we had the president of France and we had the prime minister of the United Kingdom within 72 hours of each other.
And what are they doing?
They're behind closed doors and they're talking about, you know, oh, we want to put up troops, we're going to put up money.
They have put up no money and they've put up no troops and they're not going to.
They want an American security guarantee and they want American money.
We don't have the money and we don't have the troops and we have no interest in Ukraine and two Slavic entities going at each other.
We have what we're concerned about.
is the southern border of the state of Texas.
Hell, they got the CIA now that All the assets are coming back from Ukraine.
They're doing flights over Mexico.
President Trump's getting ready.
He's trying to stop the kinetic part of the Third World War that's happened in the Eurasian landmatch, right?
In the Middle East and in Ukraine.
But he's getting ready to start the kinetic part of the war against the cartels.
They know that, right?
We've got to cut off their banking.
We've got to cut off their finance.
We've got to get down there.
We've got to do a paramilitary operation.
We've got to tell Mexico, step aside, because we're going to take them all out, and we're going to take them out now.
chris hayes
Let's be clear here.
There is a lot, a lot, so much to criticize about the past 80 years of American foreign policy.
I've been doing a lot of that criticizing myself for most of my time as a professional journalist, commentator.
What Donald Trump is building in its wake right now, in front of all of us, with these actions, he's doing things.
It's not just words.
Where the United States partners itself with authoritarian regimes, sides with Vladimir Putin, against Democratic allies, is undoubtedly worse than what we had before.
This will have massive consequences for global politics for decades to come.
The American-European alliance is effectively over.
The North Star of the post-war order, where the United States' strongest alliances are with fellow democracies over authoritarian regimes, has ended.
80 years of diplomacy, born of ashes and 35 million dead.
Undone by one, one and a half men today.
I think it makes America weaker.
Definitely more vulnerable.
It is going to make the world more dangerous as a result, no question.
unidentified
This certainly is a day that will live in infamy in the annals of U.S. and international diplomatic history, because it is quite clear that we are at an inflection point in terms of U.S. engagement on the world stage.
First of all, I think the Ukrainians should feel quite proud tonight that they have, as their president, one of what I think is one of the most principled and finest statesmen of the 21st century.
He has shown tremendous courage over the last three years and continue to show that courage in the Oval Office today.
At the same time, I think the Ukrainians should be worried.
Indeed, the Europeans should be worried because...
It is quite evident that the Trump administration is going to be selling out to the Russians on the Ukraine issue.
It was patently obvious by the things that Donald Trump and J.D. Vance were saying and what the Republican supporters of theirs in Congress are saying.
But also, I have long been worried about the safety and security of President Zelensky.
The Russians have tried to kill him a number of times over the years.
And only with the support of Western intelligence that he's been able to avoid those assassination attempts.
But now I think it's quite clear to folks that President Zelensky is going to remain a very principled leader.
And if Donald Trump and J.D. Vance and Putin believe that they're going to intimidate and bully and threaten President Zelensky to join the club of corrupt and unprincipled leaders, they will literally need to wait until hell freezes over twice.
Because this is a man who is committed to the survival of his country and to the memory of those hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians who have given their lives and been injured in this brutal assault and invasion that Russia engineered three years ago.
So, again, it's disappointing that we weren't able to reach some type of accommodation in the Oval Office today.
Treating a guest in the Oval Office that way.
Ben and I have been in the Oval Office many times, and it's a very solemn place.
And to hear Donald Trump and J.D. Vance again distort history, distort the facts and reality, and to berate President Zelensky the way they did, I think again it's appalling.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
You're not going to get a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
Mega media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
steve bannon
It's Saturday, the 1st of March, Year of Our Lord, 2025.
We're live at the Patriot Mobile studio in, I guess, North Texas, in Grapevine, Texas.
I want to thank the Patriot Mobile guys.
Quite an explosive show coming off the speech last night I gave to the Tarrant County Republican Club, a bunch of great patriots.
Of course, Todd Benson is with you.
Todd came to the speech last night.
We're going to talk a lot about the southern border.
Right there, one of the questions Warren Posse is already asking, and I don't have a good answer for it.
Why is Brennan not already charged and in jail?
Didn't we strip him of his security clearances or strip him of his pension?
That's one of the most evil demons in the world.
You saw right there where the sides are lining up.
And I've said from the beginning, Zelensky's a pimp.
He's corrupt.
He's a scumbag, right?
He's a punk.
And he showed what a punk he was yesterday.
President Trump, Brian Glenn's question, do you consider yourself a peacemaker?
He says, yes, I do consider it.
I want to be remembered as a peacemaker.
I'm trying to make peace here.
President Trump was using that economic deal to lay a predicate to get to a ceasefire and an overall rapprochement with Russia and, of course, Peace in Ukraine because the killing and slaughter in Ukraine deeply affects the president.
And I do not need to remind this audience that according to the Sermon on the Mount, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, blessed are the peacemakers for they are the children of God.
I want to go now to South Florida, our own Brian Glenn, who asked that great question.
Brian, we saw you yesterday on the tarmac.
You went on Air Force One.
You're now down near where the president is.
Right now.
Put us in the room yesterday.
That question, very powerful.
You laid it out to President Trump about what he was trying to accomplish yesterday, sir.
brian glenn
Yeah, good morning, everybody.
That question came about eight minutes into the press conference, and I wanted to get the president's thought on his legacy, because he had said before during rallies that it's very important for him.
To establish peace between these two countries.
And he would like to be known as the peacemaker.
So I wanted to say, hey, what's your thoughts on your legacy?
Not only being the peacemaker, but then being someone who didn't additionally include the U.S. in any kind of foreign war.
Thought it was a great question.
He looked over at me, answered it, gave me credit, thanked me for asking it.
And then, well, then, you know, of course we know what the second question was.
And I said that question a little bit later.
In that press conference, Steve, because I felt the tension building, not only with the answers that Zelensky was giving, but his mannerisms, his tone, talking over the president.
And you and I talked about this yesterday.
That is absolutely something you do not do.
And on your cold open there, talk about the sanctity of the Oval Office and all of the decorum that's in there.
What we saw yesterday and the blatant disrespect for this country that Zelensky had towards Americans – Now that is something that President Trump stood up against.
steve bannon
Brian, you hang on right there.
We're going to come back to you.
Todd Benson is in the studio with me.
Brian Glenn is on location.
Here's the reason.
And that's why we started with the clip.
And I want to thank my team for finding that.
The clip.
The Hay Adams Hotel.
The historic Hay Adams Hotel.
Right across Lafayette Square from the White House.
Zelensky went there before.
And you saw all those senators.
Every one of those people should be primaried.
They're the ones that convinced Zelensky he had cards.
And they're the ones that convinced him he should go to the White House and he should throw down with the president and start talking about security guarantees.
Zelensky dismissed really this very charitable, philanthropic, economic deal that Scott Besson and the president worked out, which, as you know, in the Warren Posse, we adamantly oppose.
But hey, if the president feels he needs that to get his peace deal, so be it.
You saw Zelensky, an ingrate, right?
A total, complete ingrate.
Not just about saying thank you.
American people don't need a thanks.
We don't need somebody to say thank you.
We don't need that.
We're big boys and girls.
What we do need is the Europeans.
They talk a lot of smack.
We need the Europeans to step up.
No American money.
No American arms.
No American security guarantee.
No backstop.
That's the buzzword.
No backstop.
It's not going to happen.
Today we're going to be on fire.
We're in Tarrant County, Texas, the epicenter of a political revolution in the most MAGA of all the states, the great state of Texas.
We're going to talk about the cartels.
We're going to talk about Texas politics.
We're going to talk geopolitics.
All next on a Saturday in the War Room.
If you heard the mainstream media yesterday talking about, you know, talking about things is a big surprise to them.
That we talk about here every day in the war room, particularly about the beginning of the kinetic part.
And the one thing I disagree a little bit with President Trump is that he says he's trying to avert World War III. I keep reminding him we're in World War III. We're in the kinetic part.
What you've seen in Ukraine, and this is why President Trump is a peacemaker, he's trying to stop the killing in the Middle East.
He's trying to stop the slaughter in Ukraine.
What you're seeing in Ukraine today, and Karl Rove should learn some history here.
We are much farther.
After 1939, the German invasion of Poland, right?
If you take the German invasion of Poland, then you take the whole sweep across France later in, I guess, May of 1940. If you take everything that happened in North Africa up to that time, you take the Blitz all the way up to June of 1941 when the Germans then Operation Barbarossa went into Russia.
Up until that time, and people say, gosh, we were two years in the World War II. You even throw some of Manchuria and what the Chinese were doing and what the Japanese were doing in China.
It pales in comparison to the killing and slaughter that's gone on.
The million Ukrainians dead or wounded, the 500,000 or 600,000 Russian troops dead or wounded, and the total devastation.
So, and by the way, for Karl Rove, in fact, I'll play that later because I want to say, Karl Rove, if we had, in World War II, if we had had what President Trump's doing, which is inviting people in, the nation in, to see how it's done and what's happening and what these people are really like, we wouldn't have had a Yalta.
The people in Eastern Europe wouldn't have been enslaved by the Bolsheviks and by Stalin for, what, 50 or 60 or 70 years, right?
We wouldn't have given up China to the Chinese Communist Party Karl Rove.
If you had opened it up Karl Rove, we wouldn't have the dead and wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan that you, as a war criminal, because you're a war criminal, the lies you told the American people about the Iraq war, about the weapons of mass destruction behind closed doors.
If Bush had had the stones and the brains and the guts and the determination to have the American people in the room, put them in the room, we would have avoided all that.
Because the American people said, we're not going to do that.
You don't have any evidence.
your war of choice and you are one of the biggest planners and plotters of that's the blood's on your hands we don't need to see you anymore and it's revolting revolting to me that fox news the murdochs continue to put up guys like carl rove to sit there and undercut the president if you watch fox news you're supporting the enemy okay because all they do all day long is go after
They give enough happy talk so they can, but you look at the people they put up there, and particularly Karl Rove, and particularly after yesterday, and you have the gall, you have the gall to sit there and say, oh, this is why diplomacy should have been behind closed doors.
Is that why we got the dead and wounded in Iraq?
Is that why we got the dead and wounded in Afghanistan?
Just leave aside the $9 trillion that we spent over there, we burned over there, that's now in the national debt, sir.
Because behind closed doors, that idiot that you had, Bush 43, that moron.
Because if you'd opened the doors up, we'd have seen what an idiot is.
We'd seen the lies you were telling.
And we wouldn't have done it.
The American people say, we're not going to do that.
That's the courage of Donald Trump.
He's got the courage to say, hey, here's what it is.
I don't care if it's France.
I don't care if it's England.
I don't care if it's Ukraine.
You're going to see it made.
And that's what makes it so compelling.
And thank God in heaven we have people like Brian Glenn, a grown man, that can sit there and ask a meaningful question and get a response out of President Trump.
Right?
We hope that also Natalie and our other people start getting the access there.
But Brian, you're getting the access because the questions you ask, sir, and they're good questions.
And President Trump then gives a heartfelt, meaningful...
And that drives the conversation forward.
Instead of this ridiculous snark, he normally gets asked.
Brian Glenn, your thoughts?
brian glenn
Yeah, you're right.
That was the most important question in that room.
And that was the main goal in that room, was to get peace.
Stop the bloodshed on both sides.
And of course, Zelensky got defensive when he said people were dying.
And then Zelensky pivoted to say, well, Russia invaded Ukraine.
Whatever.
The big picture here is peace.
And that's what Trump wants to achieve.
And I love the transparency that President Trump is doing right now, Steve.
And he laid that out.
He is bringing the people into the Oval Office for some of the highest conversations that can be held and letting the people see it play out.
He even said it out loud.
I'm letting the American people see this.
This is good television because they needed to see how those discussions went down.
If there was no media and no access in that room, we would just have to go for whatever embedded press had to say about it.
I'm glad, I'm very thankful that I was in that room and I had the opportunity to ask that question about being the peacemaker.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
No, it was incredible.
Okay, Peacemaker, let's talk about the southern border, the one that's – just hang on, Brian, we're going to come back to you.
Talk to me about the southern border and what's happening now because here's the border.
You talk about vital national security interests because there's security interests all over.
You've got to triage these.
You've got to rank over them.
The vital national security interest is not on the Russian-speaking eastern border of Ukraine, which, oh, by the way, is where all the rare earths are.
Right?
Just a note of why I never liked the economic deal in the first place.
And I admire Scott Besson.
I admire President Trump for trying to be peacemakers.
As the Sermon on the Mount tells us, blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the children of God.
That's what President Trump's doing.
And President Trump's taking political risks.
He knows people that support him and love him to his right, hate this deal, hate anything to do with Ukraine, want him to walk away.
And he's prepared to say, hey, you've got to have my back.
Give me the runway to do this.
I will bring peace.
That's a leader.
That's a world leader.
That's a peacemaker.
And what do they do on Fox and these other places?
They spit in his face.
That's exactly what they're doing.
Karl Rove spit in his face on national TV. Where President Trump is focused on the real war we got, the cartel war.
Todd Benzman.
todd bensman
Right.
Well, first of all, remember that during the campaign, we were always hearing about, oh, we have to have this Senate bill.
That Trump killed in order to shut the border down.
This is huge.
steve bannon
This is huge.
You can't shut the border.
Biden and Kamala Harris, you can't shut the border because the bill didn't pass and all these right-wingers and Trump killed the bill.
todd bensman
Everybody bought into that.
Oh, the Senate bill, the Senate bill.
Got to have the Senate bill.
And then before that, it was root causes.
We've got to do a Marshall Plan in Central America in order to...
Stop the causes of immigration with an E to our border.
We need comprehensive immigration reform.
It's going to be this big complex thing.
It's also complicated.
It's going to take so much time.
In the meantime, we've got to let people in.
That border was shut down in one hour on Inauguration Day.
We always knew that there were just a couple of buttons to push.
Trump knew there were a couple of buttons to push.
steve bannon
You said this for years.
todd bensman
I've said it for years.
steve bannon
And you've been proved right.
He did a couple of executive orders.
Send some resources down there.
It's closed.
todd bensman
Over and done.
I'm declaring it.
The great mass migration crisis is over.
We still have a massive cleanup job on the interior of the country.
You're seeing Tom Homan go after that.
It's going to take years to get that done, to undo the mass immigration, the damage.
Of all these millions of people inside the country.
And I'll also point out that the border may be closed 200, 300 a day coming across border length right now.
But that is not guaranteed.
All the troops, the emergency declaration, everything that the Trump administration is doing to keep that border sealed has to continue.
As you said last night at this speech, very rousing speech.
All gas, no brakes.
All gas, no brakes.
Very rousing.
steve bannon
And by the way, the audience, I think, took a vote and they're all for the all gas, no brakes.
They support that.
todd bensman
Right.
Anyway, yeah, I mean, that was a carnivorous crowd for you last night.
They were on their feet.
steve bannon
They were carnivores.
todd bensman
Absolutely.
Now, the Trump administration also, as we know, is turning its attention to a...
steve bannon
So, number one, we've...
Effectively sealed the border.
Much more has to be done.
Wall, all that.
But right now, they're trickling in.
CBS News, by the way, we have up on the news site, Grace and Mo are going to put out, even CBS News reporting, it's turned into just a bare trouble.
todd bensman
It's reverse migration now.
They're moving.
Thousands of people are fleeing from Mexico and the Trump border to go back home, by the way, to home countries that they said, I have to have asylum from because the persecution is...
It's unbearable.
They're all now returning to those homes.
Yeah, so the whole thing is bogus.
steve bannon
It was all economics they were coming up for.
Now they understand.
You're saying in northern Mexico, knowing they're not going to get across, they're going back home.
todd bensman
They're leaving.
steve bannon
They're leaving.
todd bensman
And the price of...
steve bannon
By the way, which Todd Benzman also said for years in the show would happen as soon as you have real people and adults that will seal the border, they'll all go home.
todd bensman
It took three things.
Expulsion, detention, interior deportation.
That's it.
Just do the law.
steve bannon
Before we talk about cartels, talk to me about deportation.
I think the total number is 50,000.
We still have up to, I think, a million criminals.
They've been fighting that.
We haven't started the mass deportation.
They're telling us in the reconciliation bill it's $175 billion, which is mind-boggling.
But the deportations part, we have hit a little bit of a hiccup.
You think that's because they're fighting us on the sanctuary cities or the jails?
They're not letting our people in?
Or is it we just don't have the logistics changed for Tom Homan to ramp up?
todd bensman
It's a few things.
First of all, the $175 billion is about half what we've given to Ukraine for military assistance.
steve bannon
Or what we pay for the illegals that are going to stay here anyway, right?
You save it over time.
It's just the number is mind-blowing, right?
todd bensman
It's a big number.
They may need even more.
But as Homan said, what's the price of national security?
What kind of a price do you put on that?
Our national security.
But getting to the deportation program.
Yeah, they had a big target list built up during the transition about who they were going to go after, criminal aliens.
They cleared the targets out, and now they're a little bit slower because they've got a rebuild target list.
They need intel.
They need more ICE agents.
They need detention space.
steve bannon
Have we gotten, though, out of, is your knowledge that we've gotten everybody out of that's either in state or federal custody now that's a foreign national out of a prison or a jail?
todd bensman
Well, there are people still serving their prison terms.
So the point is that you have to know when they're about to be released so that you can be in the lobby when they get released.
steve bannon
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unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, Brian Glenn's going to lose his position as they move with the president.
Brian, I have to mention, because of your courage and what you did yesterday, you've gotten from around the world, and particularly from certain places, I think, on the Eastern European side of the Eurasian landmass, and maybe even farther in, a bunch of very tough messages, maybe some called death threats, a lot of threats.
This audience wants to know, we know you're a tough guy.
You're a true honey badger, so you would never bring this up, so I felt it was necessary to bring it up, sir.
brian glenn
Well, I certainly appreciate that, Steve, and I'm by no means out here wanting anyone to feel sorry for me for getting this hate, but it just shows the level.
Of visceral that the left and people around the world have, not only for this issue, but for President Trump.
And I have gotten messages in my inboxes.
I would probably say right now close to 5,000 or more.
And a lot of it is in languages I can't understand.
But I know one thing.
They don't like me.
They don't like Trump.
They don't like America.
And they probably wish that you and I didn't exist.
We're not going to stop.
unidentified
Hey, here's a message for all those folks.
steve bannon
Here's a message for us.
We don't give two Fs, okay?
We don't.
Bring it.
Bring the biggest heat you've got.
Because this is the United States of America, and here's another thing.
We're cutting off all the money.
We're cutting no soldiers.
Not one American boy or girl is going to go over and defend that crap.
Zelinsky's a crook.
brian glenn
Amen.
steve bannon
Randy McCrooks.
Brennan ought to be in prison right now.
Cash, Pam Bondi, let's get on top of it, man.
What the hell's going on?
Why is Brennan not charged already?
Why is he not stripped of everything?
In MSNBC, if you're going to have criminals like that on, you're going to have traitors like that on, I don't know.
Maybe somebody will review that.
It's time we get tough with these people.
These people are trying to destroy this country, and they're trying to take out everybody that stands up for this country or President Trump.
This is what people don't understand, the hate that comes around President Trump and hate.
When he goes down and starts taking out those cartels, you wait.
It's going to get so over the top.
People have no earthy idea what's going to happen.
Brian Glenn, the rest of the day, what are you going to be doing?
You're earning your paycheck today.
You're going to be sitting back and taking all the glory for your questions yesterday.
brian glenn
Yeah, well, we're hoping we get a few minutes with the president when he wraps up from playing golf just down the street from where we're at right here.
We'll make it back over to Mar-a-Lago later this afternoon.
There is an event tonight.
Not sure if we're able to go in there, but if we do, you can guarantee we're going to have it right here on Real America's Voice.
Steve, as always, it's a pleasure to come on The War Room.
Thanks for what you're doing there in Texas.
Love Tarrant County.
I have a home in Collin County.
Great place there in North Texas.
Good people.
Good Republicans.
We've got to keep it that way.
So thanks for all you're doing up there for the folks in Tarrant County.
steve bannon
Your social media, Brian, how do people follow you during the day, sir?
brian glenn
Okay, you can follow me at BrianGlennTV on X and Instagram at Brian on True Social.
I do post up the best hate comments that I'm getting in a comical way on my Instagram stories.
It's got tens of thousands of views on it.
Go check it out because I'm making fun of them.
And you've got to come.
Bring the heat.
If you're going to come after me, you've got to bring the heat.
Don't give me the same old bullet points.
I know I've got a big forehead.
I know I've got beady eyes.
I know I'm losing my hair.
Don't worry about that kind of stuff.
unidentified
I want you to bring the heat and I'll post you up.
brian glenn
Got it all right here, baby.
steve bannon
Oh, brother.
You've got it right there.
You can't hurt Brian.
Glaze a honey badger.
He don't give two Fs.
Thank you, brother.
todd bensman
Appreciate you.
brian glenn
Thick skin.
Thank you.
steve bannon
How ugly a thing is going to get when President Trump goes over?
These cartels are just not going to roll over.
What's going to happen?
todd bensman
No.
Mexican cartels are notorious for taking the offense.
Really often for no reason whatsoever.
Absolutely bloody.
steve bannon
You've got two heads.
Oscar Blue Ramirez telling Tijuana this thing just started.
Their two heads cut off.
They throw them in the street.
That's a signal, right?
That's cartels.
todd bensman
Yeah, and keep in mind that the Mexican cartels right now are getting boxed into a corner by Donald Trump.
A, you've got the Foreign Terrorist Organization designation, which is going to muck them up all over the world.
They're in 50 states.
And they've got money moving all around and operations all around, and the FTO designation can disrupt and destroy a lot of that.
Anybody caught banking them or moving their money or laundering with them or moving their drugs or crips and bloods even, maybe, could be charged with material support for terrorism.
That is a massive...
steve bannon
So you're saying, since you designated a terrorist organization, this is why I try to get the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist.
Once you have that, you have so many tools, financially and economically, to choke them down, right?
todd bensman
Absolutely.
This is new authorities.
Number two, they're setting the table in Mexico, the Trump administration.
steve bannon
What do you mean by that?
todd bensman
Pulling CIA in from...
steve bannon
Oh, you're saying you're pre-positioning.
todd bensman
Pre-positioning.
steve bannon
Assets coming back from Ukraine right now.
todd bensman
That's right.
steve bannon
That are working down there.
Plus, tell about the flights and the targeting flights.
todd bensman
Yeah, this is absolutely telling, indicating something big is happening.
Extreme number of spy flights.
We've always had a few spy flights here and there, but nothing like what we're seeing now.
Off the coast, some of it's authorized by Mexico.
Some of it's just along our borders.
There's drones, there are manned spy aircraft targeting.
Now, one of the Mexican officials, I think the interior minister, just went on the record yesterday morning saying that one of those spy flights is responsible for the targeting and arrest of two top Sinaloa cartel chiefs down there already.
They're already acknowledging that.
steve bannon
This is different than the 29 that got shipped up, which is huge.
todd bensman
Yeah, this is different.
steve bannon
Extradited to the United States.
todd bensman
Yeah, that's another novel, the 29 that they have shipped into the United States.
Many of them are founding fathers of the cartels.
They've been in luxury prisons running all operations on the ground.
And the fact that they scooped up these particular...
They're mass murderers.
steve bannon
The capos.
They're the capos of the cartels.
They're mass murderers.
todd bensman
They're human rights violators to the nth degree with...
steve bannon
But you're saying with those guys, as bad as they are, they've already targeted, they're rounding up guys now, the Mexican authorities.
todd bensman
Right.
And all of this, you have to remember the context for this, is Donald Trump's trade tariff threat.
steve bannon
Big time.
That's what this is all about.
Especially Tuesday, 25%, because Mexico's finished that that happened, right?
todd bensman
Yeah, right.
Well, they're going to a recession pretty quickly, and nobody wants that.
One thing that we have to remember about those, Claudia Scheinbaum had to bring scalps to the Oval.
Had to bring them.
They brought scalps.
Big scalps.
steve bannon
That's leadership.
That's Trump's leadership right there.
And also being a deal guy, understand where the leverage point is.
We're going to use economic warfare until you start acting as an ally and not as actually working on their side.
This is what Oscar Blue Ramirez said.
He shattered kind of the political class that's been working with the cartels.
todd bensman
Well, I mean, let me get to that real quickly because it's related to the CIA move.
In my opinion, I don't have any special sourcing in the agency or anything.
steve bannon
Yes, he does, but he has to deny it.
But keep going.
todd bensman
So CIA is moving in because they're going to be doing covert ops all over Mexico.
They're going to be doing counter-narcotics operations.
They're going to be doing informants.
They're going to be infiltrating informants everywhere.
They're going to be pulling intel.
And it's my belief...
steve bannon
We did this in Latin America 20 or 30 years ago.
todd bensman
Oh, yeah.
And CIA has been down there, but just in smaller...
Operational capacity.
Now, what they're doing now is they're trebling down on CIA. Why would they want to do that?
Because the way to go at the cartels is not like we've done in the past where we just go after sicarios and bad guys that are captains on the ground.
We now understand that the new way is to take out the Mexican official Bureaucrats that are corrupt, that are running everything.
A good friend of mine, former captain at Texas DPS, Jason Jones, he was my captain when I was at DPS Intel for years, foremost expert on the cartels, explains that that's called the company.
They call that the company.
Now, let me give you an example.
Just a few years ago, The top, the Peter, the Hegseth of Mexico was arrested in California on charges.
That guy is the top, that's like the DOD chief of their DOD. He's a cartel guy.
He's a cartel guy.
That's how high this goes.
And by the way, the U.S. was eventually forced to return him because Mexico wanted him so badly.
That they were going to boot out all of our agents, all of our DEA people, everything, just ruin everything, so we return them.
steve bannon
The cartel's wanting back, I think, because he's not doing it.
I mean, once they get back to this, the cartels.
todd bensman
That level.
steve bannon
Mexico's already given us blowback, saying, you're not going to be able to send troops here, you're not going to do paramilitary activities, we're a sovereign nation, you're not going to do it.
Talk to me about, because Trump is going to take this thing down, right?
He's going to cut them off from...
He's going to cut them off from finance and all that, but hey, they're going to end up like ISIS. He's going to pound this into the dirt.
So tell me about that, because Mexico is saying, hey, you can't come down here.
todd bensman
He uses rhetoric that goes like this.
Total elimination.
That's the policy.
Total elimination.
Now, whether that's going to involve U.S. air power or Navy SEALs, You mean a reaper, like a drone strike?
Drone strikes, you know, things like we did to ISIS. Nobody wants to see American troops come home in body bags from Mexico.
I think that's a political non-start.
I think deep down inside, Trump understands we can't have U.S. troops return in body bags, or that we certainly don't want that to happen.
What they're going to do probably is require the Mexicans to proxy for us.
steve bannon
Are they prepared to do that?
Isn't it totally corrupt?
Is the Mexican Marine, is there any unit down, the federales are corrupt, the whole thing, all the officials?
Or, and you can't blame these people, sometimes you're going to get ahead, they're putting their heads in the streets, as Oscar says, as a warning of these guys, either lead or gold, right?
Either take our money and you get on the payroll, or we're going to blow you away and we're going to blow your kids away.
todd bensman
That's why they have to go after, The company.
The company.
You have the Mexican DOD guy doing drug trafficking and laundering with the cartels, I mean, under Nieto just a few years ago.
There are people like that in those positions that have to be identified and taken out.
I think CIA has their work cut out for them there.
And once we have some of that happening, we might be able to trust more the Mexican armed forces.
But the Navy...
Mexican Navy, which is being trained right now in non-conventional warfare, has infantry, Marines, that are probably among the most trusted military forces, and we've got Green Berets down there training them right now.
So that tells you something's up.
steve bannon
We've got about a minute to go.
I know you've got to bounce.
You've got to get back.
Thanks for coming up here.
People loved him last night.
He was like a rock star.
Getting photos, people shaking his hand.
The mass deportations.
People want to know, hey, I got this.
We're taking the cartels.
We're doing this to criminals.
We've got 10 million people left.
When do you think that starts?
After we get to $175 billion?
todd bensman
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
First of all, we need money.
The Biden administration collapsed our detention system, our infrastructure.
There are no family unit detention centers anymore.
They've collapsed them all.
So we just opened a new one.
We're opening them here.
We're opening them there.
We've got Gitmo.
You have to have that infrastructure to put people for a few days until you can get a flight or a bus.
You've got to arrange for them to be expelled over the border.
That's happening right now.
That's what a lot of the money is needed for, for the infrastructure.
Just be patient.
They're already moving out tens of thousands of criminal aliens.
Horrible, horrible guys.
Murderers, rapists.
It's good so far.
steve bannon
You like what you see so far?
todd bensman
I do.
Okay, fine.
unidentified
Absolutely.
steve bannon
Todd, where do people go for all your stuff?
Your book changed the direction.
We got 30 seconds.
Hit me.
todd bensman
Okay, yeah.
I'm at X, Ben's been Todd on X. I work for the Center for Immigration Studies.
By the way, I want to give a shout out to them.
Great employer and organization.
They've sent me all over the world.
They've got a border tour that they're doing, putting together.
steve bannon
Hang on one second.
Let's take a break.
Let's keep talking.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon
Okay, you can tell Benzman's a little out of shape here, had the clock.
By the way, Benzman, such a rock star last night.
I want to thank Tarrant County and the Tarrant County Republican Club party.
It was just amazing last night.
Incredible folks.
Tons of war and posse there.
And the situation in Texas affects the world.
And there's something not right down here.
Texas is MAGA, right?
And Texas is the front line, man.
You've got the rear Grand Valley.
You've got southern Texas.
I mean, this thing's a mess down here with this invasion.
So things have got to get sorted.
And it's beyond my comprehension why MAGA's not running this state.
Trump won by 14 points.
Ted Cruz won by 9 points.
We're going to get answers in the next hour.
Border, CIS. Talk about the border tour.
Can people sign up?
What are they going to do?
todd bensman
Yeah.
Center for Immigration Studies.
We put on a great educational border tour every year.
This time it's going to be in Arizona.
steve bannon
When?
todd bensman
At the last week of April.
steve bannon
Okay, perfect.
todd bensman
And you can sign up for it at CIS.org.
You can find it in the menu area.
You can find a spot for that.
Great.
Great educational tour there.
And CIS has just been a great employer.
steve bannon
Oh, they're fantastic.
todd bensman
Anytime I've ever had to go somewhere, they pony up.
steve bannon
For four years, you were one of the handful of people that changed the direction of this country.
Your book Overrun, all your writings, you're coming on here, you're in the Darien Gap, Ben Burquam, Oscar Blue Ramirez, Todd Benzman, others that covered the story from day one, the truth of it.
And now we know, and most importantly, Todd's saying, hey...
If you do two or three things on the first day in executive orders and then backed it up with resources, this thing will be closed down.
Guess what?
It's closed down.
CBS News has got a big story today.
Hey, the border's kind of closed, right?
And you called it.
And all that stuff.
Remember, all the lies they told you about, oh, we had this big bill in the Senate and Trump didn't want it.
Trump didn't want it because he realized this was just an amnesty bill, right?
todd bensman
That's right.
I never...
steve bannon
These people are crooks.
The people in the Senate are crooks.
Everybody, Langford, dude, you pimp that out.
Don't sit here and tell me you're running Christian camps and all this Christian...
I don't want to hear it.
I don't want to hear it.
You lied and you were a running dog for Mitch McConnell.
It was a lie.
The border's shut down right now.
We've still got to build the wall permanently, but it was the executive orders and the political will to go down there and shut it down.
todd bensman
That's it.
I never want to hear again anything about a complexity of...
steve bannon
Root causes.
Kamala Harris.
Root causes.
Hey.
There's self-deportation right now out of the United States back there, but northern Mexico, they're all going home.
They're all going home.
They're going home.
Because they know they can't get in El Norte, right?
todd bensman
That's it.
That's all it took.
Nobody wants to lay down $10,000 for smuggling fees to end up in Mexico.
steve bannon
Look at these people.
If they see the opportunity, if the government's inviting them in, hell, they're going to come in.
You and I would do the same thing.
If they're inviting you in and going to give you an EBIT card and all this stuff and free medical, of course we're going to take a shot.
Why not?
Once that's over, they're logical people.
The most rational people in this entire drama have been the folks that have come across the board.
Now they're all going to go home.
And they're not going to hang in Mexico because the Mexicans are not going to give them any benefits, right?
Their lives are tough and miserable.
But listen, we can't have economic migrants coming into the country.
The country doesn't run like that.
And they gamed and lied about the system.
Now it's going to cost you $175 billion.
You're right about the opportunity cost.
But hey, still.
$175 billion at a time when we don't have it, but we have to do this.
One more time, what's all your social media?
todd bensman
Yeah, Pinsman Todd on X. I've also got a count at Getter and Truth Social.
steve bannon
You're amazing.
Let's go.
We got Tage Gill.
Tage, where are you, brother?
unidentified
Right here, Steve.
How you doing?
steve bannon
Hey, Tage.
We can get a full screen right there on Tage.
Tage, you're up there for a...
What are you doing?
Are you at target practice?
What are you doing, man?
unidentified
Yeah, we're either doing a sniper shoot with some veterans out in Idaho.
steve bannon
Well, hold on.
Are you getting ready for deploying?
Are we going to deploy you?
Finally get you back to work instead of this coffee deal?
unidentified
I love it.
I love it.
I think so.
Yep.
steve bannon
Sharpening the edge.
I think you're a little rusty, bro.
I don't want to say anything.
unidentified
I think we're going to send some fresh legs.
steve bannon
We're going to send some fresh legs down there.
What do you got?
Tell me about the coffee, man.
Tell me about the coffee.
Tasia's an assassin.
You should know this.
Tasia's what they call a shooter, right?
unidentified
The assassin's coffee.
steve bannon
Tasia's one of those.
Chris Carlton.
donald j trump
Warpath Coffee.
steve bannon
Talk to me.
unidentified
Yeah, the website's warpath.coffee.
As always, for the War Room Posse, we got 20% off.
steve bannon
It's promo code WARROOM. It's for the War Room Posse.
And it's warpath.coffee.
It's the best coffee you're going to drink.
unidentified
It's the best coffee you'll drink.
Got some shooting going on about it.
steve bannon
Tell me why it's the best.
Why is it the best?
unidentified
We roast it on a perforated drum so we don't burn it.
We caramelize it.
We make it nice and brown.
We don't toast it.
chris hayes
We don't carbonize it.
steve bannon
That's the big difference.
unidentified
It sounds simple, but probably 9 out of 10 coffee roasters, they burn their coffee.
steve bannon
That's why you're going to need milk and sugar.
The milk and sugar just hides the taste of the burnt coffee.
unidentified
So we caramelize ours on a perforated drum, and you can drink it straight black.
steve bannon
It's the champagne of coffee.
unidentified
I know a guy has champagne and coffee.
It's incredible.
We have over 7,000 five-star reviews right now, and it's growing.
steve bannon
We've got Dark Roast, a breakfast blend.
unidentified
We've got a summer blend, which is Jamaica Blue Mountain coffee.
steve bannon
We've got a bunch of flavored coffee.
unidentified
We've got mugs.
steve bannon
We've got tumblers.
chris hayes
The tumblers are stainless steel.
unidentified
They're made in the USA. If you haven't tried it, you've got to try it.
If you try it, buy more.
steve bannon
It's warpath.coffee slash worm.
You get a 20% discount.
They got all kind of merch.
Yes, sir.
And I want you to read the reviews.
Tej, I got a question.
That's not militia training out there.
You're in the American Redoubt, what they call the Christian Redoubt.
Please tell me it's not militia training.
Exactly.
It's not.
unidentified
We actually got a couple of veterans here in wheelchairs shooting sniper rifles this morning.
It's a bunch of veterans right here on a farmer's land.
steve bannon
He lets us come out here and see.
unidentified
We got steel targets set out to 1,200 yards and we're all out of here shooting this morning.
chris hayes
I prefer triple.
steve bannon
One more time.
unidentified
Where do they go to get the best coffee ever?
Warpath.coffee.
Use promo code WARROOM. 20% off.
steve bannon
And keep buying it.
unidentified
It's the best coffee.
chris hayes
We literally can't roast it fast enough.
We're roasting truckloads of it right now.
steve bannon
We're always out of stock.
unidentified
It's crazy.
We just keep increasing our size of the roast we're doing.
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
steve bannon
It's the best.
unidentified
Thank you to the War Room Posse.
steve bannon
War Room Posse is amazing.
And they are drinking so much of this coffee.
chris hayes
It's incredible.
steve bannon
They love coffee.
No, because you dedicate your life to the fence of your country and now you dedicate your life for great coffee.
Right?
It's fantastic.
Have a great day there.
Say hi to all the vets.
Tage Gill.
Target practice.
Love you, brother.
What great guys.
Great men.
Proud to know them.
The Right Stuff takes us out.
We're going to Tarrant County, Texas and find out there's a big problem down here in Texas.
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