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Episode 4303: Zelensky To Meet With Trump
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joe scarborough
There are a lot of things that are happening in Washington that have been happening over the past couple of years where there really aren't a lot of parallels.
I suspect, though, this view of the world, what is old is new again, this view of the world that Donald Trump is bringing in to the White House and sort of smashing this post-war order that has seen the United States Dominate the world economically and militarily in every other way, culturally, you name it.
We've dominated since the end of World War II. But he's trying to bring about this new order.
Take us back.
Is this more like a Teddy Roosevelt imperialist approach?
Is this William McKinley?
Who does this remind you of, his worldview when it comes to power politics?
unidentified
It's older than that, even.
It's almost medieval and renaissance, right?
This is a royal house with a kingdom who bases relations on personal connection, personal feeling, to go to something Susan said a moment ago, and basically the transfer of assets.
It's a very autocratic...
Very straightforward.
I mean, let's be honest.
It's kind of, I don't want to say refreshing, but the president is being very clear here.
So one of the things that I think is really important here is to remember that we are now living, to shift from a historical metaphor to a cultural one, we're now living in the Sopranos.
Right?
This is a protection racket.
Basically, President Zelensky is being asked to come to Washington to pay for our protection.
And one of the most revealing moments, I think, of the last couple of weeks was in some comments the president made.
It was about the Associated Press situation in the White House.
And I believe I have this almost exactly right, but it's certainly the essence of it.
The AP doesn't do me any favors, so I'm not going to do them any favors.
That's the way the world works.
That's the way the world works.
That's where we are.
And there's not a lot of diplomatic thought here.
There's not going to be a foreign affairs piece about this doctrine.
That's the way the world works.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
Mega Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
It's Friday, 28 February in the year of our Lord, 2025.
We are live from the Patriot Mobile headquarters in Grapevine, Texas, at the good offices of Glenn Story and the team.
Really honored to be invited down here.
We're speaking tonight.
Jack Posobiec has joined me.
He's off of being off of guard.
He's no longer heat shield for Pam Bondi.
He's down here in Texas.
We're going to give Jack and I are speaking tonight to a big group of Texas MAGA. Conservatives and grassroots and get people fired up.
More about that later.
By the way, there's still some seats available.
unidentified
Yeah, a few tables.
steve bannon
They've expanded out.
Well, the tables thing is sold.
They've expanded out some general admission.
They were having a tough time selling tickets when it was just Poso, so I came in.
You know, support Glenn's story and the great team.
unidentified
Oh, is that right?
No, no, no, no.
Because everybody's fighting over the tickets.
It was too small.
steve bannon
Okay, so Posto's with me.
We are going to talk about the Pam Bonding and the FBI situation here momentarily.
We've got some big breaking news we've got to get to.
Our own Brian Glenn is at the White House.
Brian, set up the day.
Zelensky's coming.
This is the day everybody's talked about.
The deal's done.
I think it'll be signed this morning.
Walk us through the logistics of the day, sir.
brian glenn
All right.
Good morning, everybody.
Behind me, you've got the color guard getting into position.
Now, President Zelensky is scheduled to arrive here at the White House and go into the West Wing at about 11 o'clock.
And then shortly after that, Zelensky will meet with President Trump in the Oval Office and have a brief press conference there.
We'll make sure we bring you all the results from that.
And then a little bit later at 1 o'clock, there is a...
Bilateral press conference in the East Room.
And I would imagine that's when the press really gets to open up and ask their questions.
But it all is about that rare earth minerals agreement.
And from what I understand, that...
The deal is done.
It just needs to be signed.
But as you would expect, the security around the White House area and this whole perimeter has really been enhanced the most I've seen from any world leader coming in here.
And this is it.
I mean, this is one of the biggest meetings.
This could be one of the most defining moments, if you will, Steve, of President Trump's second term.
steve bannon
Well, yes.
I do think the bigger one will be, obviously, Putin.
I think this is to check the box and get out of the way.
There's a lot of controversy about this deal.
I think even President Trump, like he says, it's for rare earths.
And I think, Brian, the way they present this and Jack, I would say this is a framework.
This is a framework for...
Further negotiations and more details on, you know, as an M&A, you kind of get a term sheet.
You have an overall term sheet.
unidentified
Term sheet was when we went with Besant two weeks ago.
steve bannon
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
In fact, you were there.
There was some misreporting on that.
Zelensky was very disrespectful to Secretary of Treasury Besant and essentially signed the same deal is what I understand, right?
unidentified
Look, the term sheet that we delivered with Secretary Besant.
When we took the night train to Kiev two weeks ago, the term sheet is remarkably similar to what's going to be coming in today.
It's an evolution, but the big piece of it, Steve, was that Zelensky kept saying, I want a security guarantee.
But you can't do that because a security guarantee is de facto NATO membership because that would give you essentially an Article 5 provision.
steve bannon
Yes, but I think they would take a security guarantee of American troops and or...
Okay, two terms you're going to see here, folks.
unidentified
NATO means American troops.
That's the thing.
steve bannon
Here's the two terms I think you should look for, Brian, today.
And by the way, Brian is in the press pool today.
Brian, you're going to be in the oval.
And Brian, I kind of disagree, although I know you get to ask the first question now, like you're the new Helen Thompson of UPI. You get to ask the first question at the big press conference.
But the press, we call these press avails, these bilats.
And I think President Trump's doing something quite extraordinary.
He's inviting the media, not just for the cameras, but he's inviting questions from the media.
And some of those I find fascinating.
I believe there are going to be some detailed questions at the very open to him and Zelensky.
And a couple things already.
Backstop.
The term of art here is backstop.
If it's not a security guarantee, is there an American backstop?
unidentified
We started yesterday with Keir Starmer.
steve bannon
It's Keir Starmer.
And Macron tried to work his evil magic the other day.
The other thing you should hear coming from the Senate is what I'm hearing already is that, oh, well, since we have a framework, that means we can put forward another Ukrainian aid package for economic development.
What are you hearing at the White House, Brian Glenn?
brian glenn
Yeah, I'm hearing a little bit of that as well.
But you know, when you look at social media, and Zelensky was trending on X, and I read some of the comments, the American people just want this to be over.
We're tired of our tax dollars on that conveyor belt going over to Ukraine.
And of course, we don't know where a lot of that money's gone.
We don't know where some of the weapons have turned up and ended up in enemy's hands.
So they're angry, and that's why I think you see a lot of attention here.
In D.C. as far as security around this whole entire area.
But those are two great questions.
And hey, shoot me some other ones.
I'm more than happy to fire away, figuratively speaking, with language in that Oval Office.
steve bannon
Brian, hang on.
Jack, jump in.
But here's the thing.
This can only be looked at.
In the overall strategic rapprochement with Russia.
President Trump is a deal guy.
He's got to check a box.
He's got a conditioned precedent he's got to deal with, which is lay your guns down.
The way I'm going to get to lay your guns down is we'll do some sort of ephemeral deal for their rare earths.
unidentified
This is why Zelensky wouldn't sign it with Bessett.
Because Zelensky wanted today to happen.
He wants the pomp and circumstance.
He wants, because, look, what does he know is going to come after this?
What does he have after this back home?
Elections.
Once martial law ends, he's got to run for an election again.
steve bannon
Yes, because President Trump's going to force it.
Brian Glenn, you're there, you understand the tension between the MAGA base, who supports President Trump 100%, but saying, hey, look.
You know, we know as soon as it's done, you're going to have the Lindsey Grahams.
You're going to have all those neoliberal neocons in the Senate.
They're going to get another big...
And you're going to start hearing nonstop, we need a security...
You need a backup.
Just a backstop.
And that backstop means American troops are American...
unidentified
Just a little bit more.
One more hit.
Just give me one more hit, man.
steve bannon
Is the White House in your reporting, particularly at the staff level, are they aware of this, sir?
unidentified
Oh.
brian glenn
Yes, sir.
I think they are.
And I think they're listening to the American people as far as what their feedback has been on social media in regards to that.
You know, I made a joke earlier on American Sunrise that I wanted to print out my tax return and see if I can just get Zelensky to sign his name on there as a dependent in my household because I feel like a lot of our taxes have just been going over there and paying for him.
Not sure if that's going to happen today, but I'm happy to bring one in the Oval Office if he'll sign it.
This is the most, you know, when you look at all these world leaders that have been here, this one obviously is the one that people are focused on, that they want this war over.
It's hugely unpopular, just the financing of it.
And of course, you know, if you were against financing this war, you were called a Putin puppet and all this other stuff.
And shout out to people in the very beginning.
Who stood up against this war and wanted to end it as they were labeled, you know, just communist and anti-American.
And I just don't understand why we want to continue to fund this war.
steve bannon
Brian, two things.
Number one, I appreciate you saving your best stuff for Morning Sunrise.
I mean, what do we got here?
Okay, Harry, get on this.
Number two, if you look at MSNBC, brother.
They hate this deal because they hate the fact that Trump is actually bringing peace.
This is essentially the predicate to a ceasefire, right, Jack?
And they hate it.
They're all over.
This is appeasement.
unidentified
This is Putin doing whatever he wants.
steve bannon
Putin puppets.
unidentified
This is your appeasing aggression.
And et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
But Steve, this is where they intuit what you just said, which is absolutely correct.
They intuit that what's really going on is the strategy, and Marco Rubio laid this out in his confirmation hearing, the strategy of we are no longer going to be the global hegemon.
Russia is going to be there at the end of the day.
China is going to be there, so you have to have a policy, and the policy can't be we're going to have war and regime change and the rest of it.
steve bannon
Being a hegemon means you're an imperial power, not an imperial power.
By the way, The key thing is in the rapprochement to bring Russia into our camp, break them off from the CCP. And then you balance.
Just for the audience, President Trump has to balance all this.
This is why he's the master dealmaker.
This is quite complicated.
I would say don't get too worked up about this.
I don't actually see.
First off, there's a question of geography.
Number one, if you look at the deal itself, Brian.
Most of the rare earths we're talking about, minerals we're talking about, are actually in a place called the Donbass.
And if not that, Russian tanks are sitting on the rest of them.
unidentified
But he said, hey, Putin said, hey, you're signing deals, I'll sign you a deal too.
steve bannon
Exactly.
So I think there's some reality here.
Brian, you've got to get ready.
So Brian, next time we see Brian, we'll hear his voice in the Oval Office.
That's going to be approximately 11 o'clock, Brian.
brian glenn
Yeah, that's assuming that Zelensky gets here on time.
We'll find out.
But it's scheduled about 11.05, just shortly after 11 o'clock hour.
steve bannon
So what we're going to do, Brian Glenn, what is your social media so people can keep up with you with your travels?
Also today, later, Brian, you are going to be on what plane leaving here?
brian glenn
That would be Air Force One out of Joint Base Andrews headed to Florida on the weekend covering President Trump on the ground there in Florida.
Stay tuned to me, Brian Glenn TV across the board, at Brian on Truth Social and at Brian Glenn TV on Getter.
unidentified
Yep.
steve bannon
I knew Brian Glenn was just some schmendrick doing the right-side broadcasting, grinding out in these fields, you know, covering the thing.
Baby, you've come a long way.
Mosinee, Wisconsin.
Brian Glenn, it shows you.
You keep grinding, folks.
Good things are going to happen.
We love you, brother.
Brian Glenn is going to be back in the Oval.
We're going to have coverage live of all this today.
Also, Air Force One, the takeoff.
We're going to take a short commercial break, Jack.
Talk about the Trump effect.
The war President Trump wants to get on is the war against the Mexican cartels, and he's on it.
A massive development overnight.
Extradition of, I think, 28 of the worst of the cartel leaders.
As President Trump preps the kinetic part of the war that matters on our southern border with the cartels.
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Short break.
Back with Poso next.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
Okay, welcome back.
steve bannon
We're live at the Patriot Mobile headquarters in Grapevine, Texas.
I want to thank Glenn Story and the team.
We're going to, if we can't fit in today because of Zelensky.
We're going to have Patriot Mobile on hopefully this afternoon and tomorrow.
I'm giving a big speech tonight, Jack.
It's the opening act.
I get to open!
I get to open for Steve!
Oh boy!
Take Brian Glenn.
There it is right there.
It's up on the screen.
Right now, if you are in the area, there's still general admission tickets.
I think they're opening up seats even as we speak.
All the tables are sold out, etc.
I'll be doing a meet and greet before, so make sure everybody gets there.
Love to hang out with you guys.
Glenn's story in the entire team.
Brian Glenn, I'm telling you, I'm so proud of that guy.
Now, so here's the logistics.
At 11 o'clock, Zalinski's supposed to show up, I think, at 11. The color guard, yeah.
If we can go to the color guard, if Denver or Harry...
If we can do a split scan, I want to see the color guard.
It looks pretty impressive.
We were there yesterday.
Were you there yesterday?
A little bit.
You were the heat shield.
We're going to get into all the...
We have huge breaking news about Carter.
There we are right there.
Great shot.
This is the color guard.
unidentified
That's imminent.
steve bannon
Yesterday, what was the problem?
Pam Bondi oversold this.
You had every major influencer there.
You had Cerno.
You had yourself.
You had D.C. Drano.
You had Congressman...
Anna Polina Luna.
You've got people all over this.
It was a big disappointment.
Does DOJ not have the files?
They sent a letter.
And what I will tell you, if there's information there, Cash Patel and Dan Bongino are the two best guys in the world to organize this and to get it out, if it can be gotten out.
I have no idea about the legality of it.
But if you've got Cash on point and you have Dan Bongino on point, you have the two best guys.
The fiasco yesterday was because of...
Best judgment.
Why did that happen?
unidentified
Well, I think what happened was that people were expecting there to be new stuff in these binders.
Certainly, we expected there to be new stuff in the binders as well.
And we had been invited to the White House.
steve bannon
But hang on.
unidentified
It was Caroline Levitt and J.D. That was the invite, was to meet with them, do policy briefings, etc., etc.
The name Epstein was never once even mentioned prior to...
Prior to this.
So then the binders come in, and of course we've seen that she's been doing the media tour, saying that this is going to come, it's on the desk, we're going to have it soon.
Puts this out, okay.
steve bannon
So she came over and joined the meeting, essentially.
unidentified
She joined up, yeah.
And we were meeting, we went with Bobby, we met with Rubio.
steve bannon
So you met with major cabinet officials.
unidentified
They all came through.
steve bannon
Okay, and we're giving you background, which they traditionally do to influencers of the media, etc., so you know what's going on.
Kind of off the record.
So you guys are fully up to speed on things like today.
By the way, split screen right there.
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Zelensky will be here at 11. He'll go into the Oval.
It's another bilat.
They'll probably spend a few minutes with the president.
Then they will have a press avail, not a press conference, a press avail.
Right there.
Beautiful shot.
unidentified
So Trump's meeting with an unelected autocrat today.
steve bannon
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
They get on Trump for being a fascist.
This guy, and I think this is going to force him with this deal to actually hold an election.
So I assume he's not going to be the president.
unidentified
That's what's going to come on the back end of it.
So that's what's going to come on the back end is that if the war ends, so he's currently in power right now, and it'll almost have been a year until May.
It'll be one year since his term ended.
So martial law ends, which is constitutional in wartime.
steve bannon
President Trump's doing this.
He's a believer in democracy.
unidentified
So they've got to have an election.
steve bannon
We're going to go to, we've got Benzman, we've got Oscar Blue Riberos, and we have Ben Burkman.
Before we go there, I just want to clean this up.
Is that, is that, so, I mean, I don't think Pam understands the depth that the Warren Posse and others that have followed this understand the receipts.
My understanding is what was released yesterday has already been released in previous federal court filings or in the trial of Maxwell, right?
So this information was previously – I think the people that are – who love Pam and support her are kind of like, how did you say this stuff on Jesse Waters?
And if that's all DOJ's got.
You should have known that this stuff's been out there for a while, and particularly people who follow this very closely have already seen this, correct?
unidentified
Correct.
And there's this letter also saying that SDNY is sitting on some of the files as well.
There's some whistleblower coming out of there.
steve bannon
But SDNY reports to Maine Justice.
I mean, SDNY, that's not even cash.
Cash has FBI. And my understanding, I saw the letter.
She went to cash and said, I want everything on my desk by 8 o'clock this morning.
And if you've got Cash, I don't think Dan Bongino is actually over there yet, but if you have Cash Patel, that's the best guy.
I mean, Cash is going to be fierce on this, correct?
unidentified
There's no question.
I mean, he's put out statements about it.
He had some tweets about it last night up on X. So he's looking for the brass tacks because, look, he's been on the job five days.
steve bannon
Exactly.
unidentified
Five days he's been on the job, and this has been something that he's been talking about for years.
steve bannon
With SDNY, though, the Southern District of New York reports to Maine Justice.
I mean, they report to a U.S. attorney, but that U.S. attorney, so if they're saying their files, I mean, the rat's nest in SDNY has got to be cleaned up.
unidentified
Steve, here's the scuttlebutt, right?
And it doesn't need to be cleaned.
The scuttlebutt is...
That they think what they're going to get back is they're going to say, wait a minute, Ghislaine Maxwell, right, who was the accomplice, she was Lady Epstein.
They're going to say, oh, her appeal is still in process.
Something you know about.
And so if her appeal's in process, then we can't release this because it's in process.
steve bannon
But then there's a color guard right there taking position.
This means that maybe Zelensky's going to be here a little early.
unidentified
Well, and this is what happened yesterday.
So yesterday we walk out the portico door.
We're just walking to the EEOB, which you see behind there, the Eisenhower building.
And then the entire media is there waiting for Keir Stommer.
steve bannon
Do you think you were set up?
Is that what you're implying?
unidentified
I think that it was very...
steve bannon
I think there are no coincidences.
unidentified
I think there's no conspiracies, but there are no coincidences.
steve bannon
But why would they do that when they didn't give you any information?
That would be the exact opposite of what they would want to do, wouldn't they?
unidentified
Look, here's my position, right?
My position is...
steve bannon
I mean, no offense.
We had the...
We had the best people in our influence.
You had Cerno, you, you had everybody.
So who's who of influencers?
unidentified
And I'm going to keep asking them for more information.
And we're going to keep going back and we're going to press them and say, look, and I'm in communication, by the way, with the task force.
steve bannon
I don't think asking is going to do it.
I think you want the information that demanded.
unidentified
We're in communication with Anna Paulina Luna.
Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna, as everyone knows, is very hot on this.
And she's going to be going over and she said, you know what?
You know what?
We've dealt with DOJ not giving us...
steve bannon
Guys, I want to keep...
Okay, I'm going to go back to...
I want the shot.
I want that beautiful shot in front of the...
Yes, I've seen enough of Jack, and the audience knows...
The audience knows how beautiful I am, right?
They don't need to see it on a...
Right there.
Now, this is the working side of the West Wing.
This is where these bilats...
When you're not on a state visit, when you're here for a working visit, this is where you come.
And the color guard is put out there as an honor.
It's a very...
Short, when he goes inside, the president normally comes out to meet people.
He didn't come out the first time with Macron the other day.
The reason was Macron was coming early, kind of unofficially, to join President Trump in the Oval Office for the G7 conference call.
And it was a video call, so they wanted to have it secure, and Macron wanted to be with the president.
Macron then left and came back and got this.
So this is a working visit.
To the White House, right there.
unidentified
I actually got to run into Dr. Navarro yesterday a little bit there as he was coming out with his better half.
steve bannon
Okay, so people should understand.
Right to the left, see the portico.
That is the West Wing.
Now, the West Wing is one or two stories right there.
These officers are very crammed.
unidentified
Well, you're actually looking at the second story because of the way the hill sits.
There's a lower level as well.
steve bannon
Well, and there's also, underneath that's the National Security Council.
Yes.
As I say, the West Wing is a military command post with a very old office, a small office.
Now, where Dr. Navarro and most of the people you see is the executive office building is in the background.
That is the old State Department and War Department.
It's a massive, massive building.
A thousand people or more.
unidentified
Well, people don't realize that the West Wing actually isn't that big.
steve bannon
Tiny.
Very tiny.
They have the Oval Office.
The East Wing actually were the first ladies' offices in the East Ballroom.
That's where the press conference takes place in the East Room.
They'll be there today.
So a massive breaking news.
So the bottom line of this is cash is guided at the FBI. There's some controversy about Southern District.
But people are working on this.
You guys were there for a briefing with all the cabinet officials, J.D., Caroline Levitt.
This Carol Bondi popped in, gave you guys the binders, and you went outside, and it turned out to be the Prime Minister of England was there, and he had a couple hundred press guys, and you guys gave an impromptu...
Press conference, but didn't have a lot of receipts, right?
unidentified
Well, that was the thing, right?
You know, they hand you this thing.
They say, hey, walk out this door.
You walk out.
Oh, there's the cameras everywhere.
steve bannon
Did they tell you that this is like phase one, that this is not everything that was presented to you?
unidentified
The way it was presented was this is phase one, and there's going to be more.
They also gave us copies of the letter.
steve bannon
Okay, look, nobody's happy on this.
I know that some people are outraged.
Beautiful camera shot right there.
You don't have to do a split screen.
Give me a whole screen.
I want the whole screen.
I got enough of Jack Posovic.
I got to look at him right here next to me.
And the audience remembers what my beautiful visage is.
Okay, let's go.
We've got serious business on the cartel war.
Zelensky today is to stop the Ukraine war.
I think we can be very safe that President Trump, that's a conditioned precedent.
You've got to lay down your guns.
The war that President Trump is really focused on is the cartel war.
Let's go to Todd Benzman.
I've also got Ben Burquam.
Oscar Blue Ramirez is in Mexico and Tijuana.
We're going to go to all that.
Benzman.
We got about a minute here to tee this up.
How big a deal was this, this extradition of these 28 cartel leaders, sir, by President Trump and the Trump administration with the cooperation of the Mexican government, sir?
todd bensman
This is hugely meaningful and impactful.
They have convinced the Mexican government to expel and extradite 29 founding fathers.
Of the Mexican cartels, six of them which have been designated terrorist organizations recently.
Claudia Sheinbaum has just bought herself another couple months of a reprieve from Donald Trump's threat of trade tariffs.
That's what this is all about.
So these are big scalps that Sheinbaum has brought to Donald Trump.
This is a major victory.
It's a first blow to the cartels of many more to come.
There's a lot of work to be done here.
These 29 guys are mass murderers.
They'll be brought here to refill the death row, federal death row that Joe Biden cleared out on his last days in office.
unidentified
Now we've got some new teammates.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Todd, hang on for one second.
We're going to take a short break.
We've got Ben Burquam.
We've got Oscar Blue Ramirez.
We've got the team that has fought for this for years.
Todd Benzman, being brilliant, did not bury the lead.
President Trump in tariffs.
I don't think on the 4th that 25% tariffs across the border are going to go on to Mexico.
And the reason is they're starting to wake up and focus on the cartel war.
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unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon
Okay, right there you see that's a beautiful structure of the White House.
That's the West Wing.
We're expecting President Zelensky of Ukraine.
It's a huge day for...
For peace and prosperity, no one's crazy about this deal, but we understand what President Trump's trying to do.
He's trying to recoup money, and he's adamant there was $350 billion.
Zelensky's coming.
That's the color guard.
This is a working visit, just like Prime Minister Starmer yesterday, Macron, president of France.
These are working visits.
A bilat, what it's called.
Brian Glenn is now, Brian is getting set up and getting in.
They'll probably tee him up in the Roosevelt Room, which is right across the hall from the Oval.
Brian Glenn, our own Brian Glenn, will be there.
There'll be a camera crew, etc.
And this goes back, Jack, to this thing of President Trump.
And Caroline Leavitt and Susie Wiles doing something that needed to be done.
They've taken control of the White House pool.
So now you just don't have the New York Times and MSNBC and all these people that are sitting there just putting their framing on it, which is always negative, particularly about President Trump.
You now have Newsmax, you have Real America's Voice, you have the podcasters, etc.
unidentified
Well, Steve, it's not just about the framing, but it's also about the fact that, and there are anonymous media sources going around all over.
Look, you're seeing the purges going on at NBC and MSNBC, massive restructuring, and the executives are saying, look, half of the people in this country don't believe anything that we're saying.
Any of this stuff that we're writing, any of this stuff that we're putting out, we have no stroke with 50% of the country.
And if we don't have that, and we can't even motivate more people to vote, then what are we doing it for?
What are we doing this for?
And so what Caroline Levitt is doing...
Absolute genius, and then President Trump as well, is saying, look, we're going through new media to find where the people are.
steve bannon
And we can tell you, and we've done changes to programming.
We do a lot more live coverage from the White House because I tell people, you're seeing history being made.
There are decades in which nothing happens.
There are weeks in which decades happen.
This week, think about it.
And I don't think this has ever happened in White House history.
You've had the President of France, the Prime Minister of the UK, our two oldest allies.
There's some Marines coming outside.
We're pulling in right now.
So this is getting closer.
I think he's going to be there at 11 or close to 11. We'll be covering it live.
Great shots.
I want to hold that shot.
I'm going to bring some guests.
So President Trump is here today to stop the fighting in Ukraine.
And he's doing it with us first as a minerals deal.
It's not perfect, but it's a condition President to get President Trump to what he really wants to do as a rapprochement with Russia and to make sure that we can lay the guns down in Western Europe and stop spending a trillion dollars a year on defense and focus on the Chinese Communist Party, the railhead of all the problems.
unidentified
What's being done is he's taking the international structure of globalism, which is based around this American hegemonic state that existed sort of after the end of World War II.
steve bannon
The post-war international rules-based order.
unidentified
Yes.
Which was originally set up to contain communism.
Yes.
To contain the Soviet Union.
That's why you see Afghanistan.
That's why you saw Vietnam.
That's why you saw the rest of it.
But then what happened in 1991, 1992 after the Soviet Union was in the war.
steve bannon
But don't bury the lead.
In 1972-73, it was Kissinger and Nixon.
Going to see Mao Zedong to say, if we want to take...
Now, they were more detente, but they said, if we want to actually have a shot at containing the Soviet Union and stopping this, we have to get China on a side.
unidentified
So they initiate...
Well, they exacerbate what was called at the time the Sino-Soviet split.
steve bannon
And then President Reagan came in and said, hey, look, I saw what Nixon did, but Nixon wanted detente with these guys.
I can take down the evil empire.
And it took essentially...
From 1981 to 1989, it took about eight or nine years, President Reagan had left office, but the evil empire collapsed in Berlin.
And the central part of that was getting the Chinese on our side.
This is totally reversed.
This is what President Trump's grand strategy is.
unidentified
The goal is a new Sino-Soviet split, but in the other direction.
steve bannon
In the other direction.
And this is what he wanted to accomplish in the first term.
It was prevented.
Now, when you talk about America first, President Trump is saying, hey, look, we've got to secure the homeland.
He's not really interested in the war in Ukraine.
He wants the guns to be put down so we can get peace and prosperity and do this geostrategic realignment.
What he wants to focus on, just like, folks, don't forget, ISIS. When President Trump came in the first time, as you remember, Obama told us there's a generational problem.
The Islamic State in Iraq and Syria...
Had more control of territory and real estate than the size of Iraq or the size of Syria.
unidentified
Well, and who was the general that he went and got briefed on that was Raisin Cain.
steve bannon
Raisin Cain.
That's why Raisin Cain's chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
So, President Trump, and this is what Mattis did well.
President Trump said, I want to take down ISIS. And I think it was in the first five or six months, ISIS was gone.
unidentified
And I'll actually take one down a notch for Mattis on that.
What they did was, and by the way, this just happened again, what they did is they restructured what's called the kill chain.
So the kill chain is when we find fixed and evaluated, so the F3EA cycle, is you found the terrorist leader, you found the high-value target, you can go strike on him.
The way Obama had it written, and Biden did the same thing, it went all the way up to the White House.
Is that almost Obama or one of his guys?
Ben Rhodes had to sign off on it.
Trump?
steve bannon
Yes.
unidentified
He deregulated that and delegated it down.
steve bannon
He said, let the war fighters fight the war.
He said, let the war fighters fight the war.
Now, why is that relevant?
Because President Trump, one of the first things he did was designate a bunch of these Mexican cartels as terrorist organizations.
That means you can go to the next level.
The first step he does is, I need a forcing function.
A forcing function is going to be 25% across the board, across the board, tariffs, unless you step up.
Start stopping fentanyl, help us take these cartels.
Todd Benzman, last night we saw the fruits of President Trump's, and this is my point, the guy's been in office 35 days, we've accomplished more in taking down the Mexican drug cartels than in the previous 25 or 30 years.
I mean, this is true action.
Twenty nine founding fathers of the cartels, these different, you know, the Sinanola and all these others, you can tell us, have have literally been coughed up by Mexico that has had them for years, been coughed up.
And now they're becoming in U.S. custody.
Todd Benzman, how big a deal is this as the predicate for the kinetic part, which is going to take down these take down and eradicate these drug cartels, sir?
todd bensman
This is a huge offering by the Scheinbaum administration.
And just for context, A lot of these guys have been under extradition requests by many U.S. governments for decades.
And their power from their luxury prison cells, these guys are in quote-unquote prison, but it's not real prison.
And they're still running their operations from there through brute force.
And they've managed to get successive Mexican regimes.
To block U.S. extradition for decades.
Now, all of a sudden, they're all on military flights being flown into eight different U.S. cities to face justice.
And I mean, it's going to be death penalty justice for some of these guys because they killed DEA agents.
One of them killed a deputy sheriff in Charlotte, North Carolina.
I mean, these guys are in the United States.
I don't think anybody disputes that anymore.
I mean, no normal person disputes that.
So this is a first delivery on a requirement by Donald Trump.
We're going to see a lot more, and we're going to probably see some writing down there, too.
steve bannon
So, Todd, hang on for a second.
Let's go to Ben Burkholm.
I want to keep this shot or do the preview shot.
I'd love.
Stay on the White House.
Ben Berkholm joins us.
Ben Berkholm joins us from his home.
Ben, you've done this.
Oscar, we're going to go to Mexico in a second.
How big a deal, brother, is this?
ben bergquam
Yeah, it's huge.
It's huge.
A couple things, not bearing the lead.
First off, it's just the beginning.
This starts the unraveling.
It's also going to start the major violence, and Oscar's going to talk a little bit more about that, what they're already seeing down there.
But it's two things.
As you mentioned, it's the threat of tariffs, but it's also the strength of President Trump designating these terrorist organizations and giving Mexico the backup to be able to do this.
This is extremely dangerous for the government in Mexico, the officials in Mexico.
Not surprisingly, these guys were in, a lot of these guys were in America yesterday, I think, kind of on purpose, so they didn't get whacked when this all happened.
Some of the guys from the Mexican delegation were actually on the U.S. side.
But the other side of this is...
unidentified
Hold it.
steve bannon
Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, hang on for a second.
I want to reiterate to the audience that this is a massive blow to the cartels.
That's why it's so dangerous.
The cartels and Oscars are going to tell us what's happening in Mexico right now.
For the Scheinbaum government, and she's a lefty, right?
And she was forced to do this because 25% tariffs, it's over in Mexico.
Her government's over, the country's over.
This is Trump.
This is called a forcing function.
Tell us why it's dangerous for her personally and her government, sir.
ben bergquam
Because the cartels control every level of government.
They control the DAs.
They control the judges.
They control the municipal governments.
They control the military.
They control the police.
They control just about everything, depending on which district you're in, whether you're in the Gulf or the CJNG or the Jalisco New Generation.
Michoacán or all of these guys, the Noreste, all of them control their little factions of the country.
They really control Mexico.
So for the government to come out and say, we're going to side with America, this really took, again, the threat of tariffs, that's one big part of it, but it also took the backing of the U.S. military being able to say, we can come in and take you guys out at any moment.
And really, the bigger part to this, Steve, as you said, this was Joe Biden for four years.
Sending our tax dollars, our money, over to foreign wars and allowing our country to be invaded.
This is the new Bukele mantra where we put the victims first over the criminals.
It's never been done before.
In particular, you can see how big a deal it is by the attorneys in Mexico, their reaction to this.
They are freaking out, the defense attorneys.
steve bannon
Hang on for one second.
You see the split screen right there.
You see the color guard getting ready.
Zelensky's en route.
We understand he's going to be at 11 o'clock Eastern time.
He'll be arriving.
Big day for President Trump.
He'll go in for a short bilat.
Then there'll be a press avail.
Our own Brian Glenn will be in there.
Right there, there's a color guard.
Then, I think they'll have a working lunch.
And I think at 1 o'clock, they're going to have a press conference in the East Room.
We will also be there.
The intelligence planes are flying around targeting.
The targeting has been done by the intelligence community.
They haven't been shy about sending the signal to Mexico.
Yeah, we're preparing for something.
unidentified
Well, Steve, I understand, and people have to understand as well, that these aren't just imagery flights.
These are flights that are packed with the entire suite of surveillance and ISR technology that the United States intelligence community has.
We're talking about signal suckers.
They're taking even signal sniffers.
They're pulling up anything that they have down there.
Because, by the way, number one, it's cell phones.
Tracking up all the cell phones, and then you have to begin the work of the needles in the haystack.
So mapping out the networks.
Do these guys use SIM swapping like the Taliban or ISIS used to do?
Do they practice ComSec?
Who are the leaders?
What are the nodes?
You've got to build out the network.
steve bannon
I've got about a minute before we go to break.
Let me get Oscar Blue Ramirez.
And Oscar, you're down in Mexico, sir.
You saw this historic day.
You've worked on this for years to get here.
But how dangerous is it, sir?
unidentified
It's beginning to be really dangerous, sir.
This is not a huge blow to the Mexican cartels.
It's a huge blow to the other cartels that is the corrupt politicians in Mexico.
Gladys Sheinbaum just gave up all of these big names.
And the biggest name is Rafael El Caro Quintero, who has been, you know, being looked and being investigated by the American government.
But the other thing is that it's not being mentioned.
It is the biggest campaign that is in Mayo Zambada that is arrested in the American territory.
And it is putting pressure on the corrupt politicians in Mexico on Claudia Sheinbaum.
This is why it's always all of this.
It is being just basically en masse, also by the right-wing political party in Mexico that is on the rise right now, pressuring the Mexican president to basically stop the drug cartels, to basically stop the wars over here, and to ultimately put pressure on her to name them as cartel terrorists that she doesn't want to.
She's willing to change the Constitution just to protect the cartels, to not be named as terrorists.
And this is all just...
Because of the 25% terror.
So it's a big blow to the Mexican cartels, but it's a bigger blow to the corrupt politicians and the Mexican government, and particularly to them, sir.
steve bannon
Wow.
Okay, hang on for one second.
Birkholm's going to stick with us.
Oscar Blue down in Mexico.
I'm here live with Jack Posovic at the Patriot Mobile headquarters.
We need you to the ramparts.
Not this week, but next week.
Big stories in the Hill about guess what?
The CR, and they want the Doge numbers in there as this audience has been fighting for.
Short commercial break.
We're going to return to the White House in a moment.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
Got Shanghai.
steve bannon
Okay.
I want to show you, and particularly the folks that are very concerned about yesterday.
We've got the great Real America Voice camera right there.
If we can do some direction, I want to do a slow pan.
Now, what you're seeing back there is, hang on, is the residence part of the White House.
That's the color guard.
They're going to march in.
Let's pan around.
unidentified
That's the mansion.
steve bannon
Now, the mansion.
Yep.
By the way, you call it the residence when you're inside baseball.
Right there.
Okay, stop right there.
That colonnade is on the other side.
The other side of that is the colonnade in the...
That's okay.
Once you go, you go.
Okay, stop right there.
Right there.
That's the press pool.
That's what you want.
By the way, the thing we just went past...
On the other side is a colonnade you always see coming from the residents and the president walking to the West Wing.
And that's the Rose Gardens on the other side.
unidentified
On the flip side.
steve bannon
On the flip side.
Right there, look at that press map.
There's got to be, what, 200 or 300?
unidentified
And this is beyond just the press pool.
Yes.
So this is anyone who's got a press pass for the White House, a daily pass today, the hard passes.
They're all there.
steve bannon
But President Trump understanding mass communications has opened that up, which I think is good.
There's more foreign press.
unidentified
I hear they even let the War Room have a correspondent.
steve bannon
With Real America's Voice, we have three now.
We have Amanda Head with John Solomon.
You've got Natalie Winters with War Room.
And you have Brian Glenn.
unidentified
I should send Kevin down.
I've got to send Kevin down there for human events.
steve bannon
We're going to send human events.
I think there are background checks that have to come.
unidentified
Minimum security.
steve bannon
Another executive order.
Folks, every day.
So yesterday, let me finish this.
Yesterday, you guys walked out and that's what they had for the British prime minister.
That's right.
You guys are sitting there with a binder that really is something that was handed to us.
Handed to you.
We're in posse's already seen, right?
unidentified
Right.
That the posse's seen, that people look through this.
And we didn't even have time to take a couple, three minutes to just look through it yet because they hand us this thing and say, OK, we're going to the next room.
We walk out.
I didn't know why we're walking this way.
Why didn't we go the other way?
But we walk out, and then boom, everyone's waiting, because yesterday was Keir Stomber.
The British Prime Minister.
So all the cameras are there.
And, you know, look, when D.C. Drano sees a camera, you know.
Hold it.
steve bannon
Don't go to D.C. Drano.
Jack Posobiec sees it.
unidentified
Not in the picture.
Not in the picture.
steve bannon
The most dangerous territory in D.C. is between a microphone camera and Jack Posobiec.
unidentified
Look, by myself, let's just say.
Let's just say.
steve bannon
Okay.
unidentified
Hey, I learned from the best.
steve bannon
A major executive order has just been signed.
Jack Posobiec.
And keep on that shot.
Major executive order has been signed.
What is it, sir?
unidentified
President Trump has signed an executive order that harkens back to Teddy Roosevelt and his discussion of hyphenated Americans, if you're familiar with that one, Steve.
President Trump's EO is declaring that English is the official language of the United States.
And by the way, that's going to have a ripple effect around the country because that means government...
Documents must be in English.
steve bannon
And voting has to be in English?
unidentified
Now, voting, that's going to be tricky.
steve bannon
In federal elections, at least.
unidentified
Voting is going to be tricky because, as we know, voting is run by the states, but...
jack posobiec
Had a discussion on background with some very high-level senior officials yesterday at the White House, specifically on, Scott Pressler was there yesterday, and that was his, everyone knows, Scott Pressler brought it up again and again, election integrity, election integrity.
unidentified
And so when we pass the election integrity legislation, this should be front and center, that ballots should be printed in English.
steve bannon
The press is right there.
Now, right to the right of that is where the, if we can pan around, you can see the portico of the working side of the West Wing where they bring dignitaries.
And, okay, that shot's fine.
Zelensky's going to be here, I think, at 11 o'clock, so it'll be about five or six minutes.
He will arrive.
You'll see the color guard.
I think, get in place right before he arrives.
So we'll be waiting for that.
unidentified
Do you know the history of Pebble Beach a little bit?
steve bannon
No, give it to me.
unidentified
So Pebble Beach, I looked this up the other day.
I was digging up something.
steve bannon
Pebble Beach not being the golf links in Monterey.
unidentified
Pebble Beach of the White House.
Pebble Beach of the White House is what?
steve bannon
Yes.
unidentified
Is an area, and this is where the camera that you're looking through right now is currently situated, the one that's showing the press pool.
It's the area with all the tents, all the green tents that line up, and that's where members of the media can do their hits.
That's where Brian Glenn does his hit.
I did an interview with Alina Habba there yesterday.
She came out as the counselor to the White House, to the president, and then it's where all the cameras are.
But the history is, and the reason they call it Pebble Beach is because it's just rocks and strewn.
steve bannon
It's like a little gravel walkway.
unidentified
It's like a gravel walkway because you don't need to see it.
Sean Spicer did some videos there, did like an Easter thing.
The history of it is that it actually, you know what the actual first thing where they started setting up there 24-7 was?
Lewinsky.
Ah.
It was back, it was the end of the 90s because they were, that one of the Zelinsky skips.
Because remember, this was the era of TV. That was, it was the OJ. Well, it was also Drudge Broken.
CNN, CNN, social media.
But Steve, remember, this is when media shifted from we're reporting stories to we're going live.
Yeah.
So we're giving you the car chase.
And the car chase in this case, The white Bronco was the blue dress.
Exactly.
The white Bronco was the blue dress.
steve bannon
If it doesn't fit, well, let's not go there.
Lewinsky came out yesterday.
Lewinsky came out a couple days ago and said Bill Clinton should have resigned, which I think most people think.
Okay, I want to keep this shot, but I want to go to Oscar Blue Ramirez.
Oscar, if you were in the Oval today, what question would you ask President Trump, would you put to President Trump about what you've seen overnight?
With the cartels, the 29 being extradited here to the United States in the future kinetic war that's coming against the terrorist organizations, the Mexican drug cartels, sir.
unidentified
Well, I think the number one question that I will ask is why, in Mayo Zambada, it is not one of the first people that should be investigating and should be asked about the bank accounts of these dirty politicians in Mexico.
Can we have the possibility of asking him and investigating him?
This, Mayo Zambada, is the campaign.
This is the guy that has Claudio Shinbound extremely nervous right now.
It's the guy that knows the whereabouts.
It's the guy that knows which political campaign has been funded.
If the past president of Mexico, this goes way deeper, Steve.
Past president of Mexico, Andres Manuel López Obrador, his political campaign, they're speculating that Mayo Zambada was the number one that it was, you know, the number one funder, the number one that it was funding this political campaign.
I think that the most important question that goes extremely deep to this is to find the root of the problem of all these dirty politicians and to go directly to the Mayo Zambada that is the campaign of drug lords that basically controls and has the level of violence in Culiacán, the level of violence in the central parts of Mexico, the extreme level of violence and insecurities and the cartel.
I think one of the questions will be that, Steve, directly to know why the bank accounts and all these dirty politicians have not been investigated by this particular campaign, speaking about it.
steve bannon
A brilliant analysis.
I think that's going to be next level, but I 100% agree with you.
Right before you stick there, but you just said something.
I know the audience is very interesting.
You said the politicians are more worried today than actually the cartels.
Why is that?
unidentified
The left-wing political party is being exposed, and this is what the other thing that President Trump did.
It's just magical for us Mexicans over here living.
The right-wing political party and the conservatives are rising now, and they're fighting the left-wing political party because Donald Trump has put pressure on exposing the left-wing political party in Mexico.
Lili Tellez is one of the senators in Mexico that has been speaking at the Senate and exposing their names and saying their names in front of the cameras and saying, you are the narco-political party that is protecting these cartels and why you're stopping them from not naming them terrorists.
This is huge.
This is big, and it's the rising of the right-wing political party.
This is what Donald Trump just has done just by pressuring the Mexican government.
steve bannon
We have done more.
We have done more to take the war and to actually get serious about taking down the Mexican cartels in the five weeks that President Trump has been back in office than occurred in 30 or 40 years under other people.
unidentified
Now, Oscar, when you talk about those politicians that are getting cartel money, that would never happen north of the border, right?
That would never happen if cartel money was going north of the border.
Wouldn't it, Oscar?
Well, you know, it's a lot of them.
It's a lot of investigations.
And the Mexican government is really embedded with the cartels.
And a lot of these 30 politicians, you can actually understand that a lot of them, they're on the other side of the border.
steve bannon
But let's be blunt.
I mean, this is what today's about with Zelensky.
You know, Zelensky's saying, and Dana Carvey and those guys were actually, were making, you know, did a TikTok laughing about this yesterday, about how serious it was.
Zelensky's coming into the White House today.
He said, hey, look, Trump says $350 billion.
I can tell you that $179 billion was allocated, but I only got like $88 billion, right?
There's massive, and MTG will tell you she's got no traction on really getting an audit.
Now, I understand there are inspector generals that have gone under Keith Kellogg and others that are in Ukraine.
What I'm told is that people are there.
But the problem in Mexico is the exact same problem.
unidentified
Those prosecutor generals in Ukraine don't exactly have a great track record.
Yes.
steve bannon
My point is that the connective tissue here is that American money, you've got bad guys throughout the world.
unidentified
Look at the model.
Look at the model of this.
It's oligarchs.
Oligarchs and people.
So the oligarchs, when you talk about cartel leader, that's an oligarch.
So an oligarch there controls the violence, controls the weapons, also controls the politics.
And it is on both sides of the border, obviously.
Ukraine, same deal.
You've got oligarchs.
Russia's got oligarchs, okay?
This is what we're looking at.
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