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Feb. 22, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4289: LIVE From CPAC Final Day
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steve bannon
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derek harvey
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ben bergquam
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jake tapper
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
Mega Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Yo!
steve bannon
Let's say it's Saturday, 22 February, year of our Lord, 2025.
I want to thank everybody that's down here.
First off, they were partying late at CPAC last night, so I'm glad seeing some people come in.
Also, security's very high.
Obviously, the president's going to speak today, so just to get through, security takes a long time.
People are coming in right now.
We're live here in the world.
I want to thank Real America's Voice, everybody, for making this happen.
Colonel Derek Harvey joins us up here today.
We've got tons of war and posse.
Jane Zirko, who you got for us right there?
Hang on, hang on.
Okay, Harry, we need a mic that works.
unidentified
Can you please tell me your name and what brings you to CPAC? I am Cindy Pagetta, and it's an annual event with some amazing women I served in the Marine Corps with, and we're here to celebrate having Commander of the Chief.
steve bannon
Semper Fi.
unidentified
Thank you for your service.
steve bannon
By the way, hang on for a second.
President Trump, we're going to get to the reason I have Colonel Harvey here.
It's Pete Hexeth.
If you guys haven't seen the papers, it didn't go online.
Pete Hexeth.
It started cleaning out the Pentagon overnight.
5,200, I think, civilian employees have been told they're no longer one.
I think those are probationary.
But he's relieved the chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
He's relieved, thank God, the Chief of Naval Operations.
It was a disaster.
I used to work for a real Chief of Naval Operations.
So, as a Marine...
Did the Pentagon—and by the way, this is just a start.
Hex says it's going to be on a roll.
Does the Pentagon need to be purged of all these failed general officers?
unidentified
Like you cannot believe.
I investigated general officers' misconduct.
That's what I did for a living in the inspector general's office.
I have a list they could get rid of.
steve bannon
Give me that again.
unidentified
You've got a list of— I said I have a list of people I investigated for misconduct that still got to stay.
So I can send them my list.
steve bannon
Wow, we need that list to peep.
Thank you very much.
Do you guys agree the Pentagon, we've got to purge the Pentagon and get back to war fighting?
You guys are supportive?
You guys are supportive of President Trump purging the Pentagon?
So Colonel Harvey talked to me about this.
It's the headline, it's the lead story in the Washington Post.
We believe everything is in the Washington Post, don't we?
The Jeff Bezos, Amazon Washington, Joint Chiefs Chair, other leaders fired in Pentagon purge.
Trump reshaping forces' highest ranks.
Navy's top Admiral, Air Force General, also dismissed.
And he named, as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Raisin Cain, who you've heard the story many times.
He was a warfighter.
So Colonel Harvey, you're a legendary figure in the military.
Walk me through, do you support President Trump's purge of the Pentagon?
derek harvey
I hope this is just the beginning, because...
There's a whole cadre of general officers.
We've got hundreds of general officers that are too woke, and they do not know how to fight and win wars.
They know how to manage wars, they know how to manage things, but they will not take risks, they will not give solid military advice, and they do not know what winning is about.
steve bannon
Colonel Harvey, I met Colonel Harvey when he was at the White House.
Colonel Harvey is one of the key people in the National Security Council in President Trump's first term.
People had listened more to Colonel Harvey.
We wouldn't have had the problem with the impeachment or anything like that.
He identified Sergeant Higgins, Colonel Harvey, these guys identified all the deep staters coming from the different agencies that were there to mess things up.
He's also the first guy ever talking.
I'm sitting there talking to him.
He goes, he says, Steve, you don't understand.
The elites in this country want the managed decline of the country.
They're managing the decline of the United States of America.
And then he walked me through it, and it was like just a genius.
What did you mean by that?
What did you mean that the elites, and particularly here in Washington, D.C., are managing the decline of the country?
derek harvey
By any examination of the record of allowing China into the World Trade Organization without maintaining standards, having them uphold their agreement with what they were doing with the United Nations, with how they were disinvesting in the United States.
steve bannon
Can you hear Colonel Harvey?
derek harvey
Can we get some?
Disinvesting in the United States.
Hollowing out American industry and jobs, shipping them overseas, undermining our military, not fighting for our values or our partners or our allies, all of these things were setting us on a pathward into decline.
It was benefiting the global elite, but not America, and that's why they fought Trump, because Trump was going to fight for American security, American jobs, American values, and American traditions.
steve bannon
Do you guys buy that?
Do you think that the elites in this country were managing the decline of this country?
Let's toss that to the audience.
Let's hear your point of view.
Let's go.
unidentified
What do you think?
Absolutely.
I'm a Hollywood actress, and absolutely.
And since Trump's been in office, even though he was in office in 2016, he learned who the deep state is.
So now he's kicking butt.
steve bannon
Hang on for a second, not so fast.
You're a Hollywood actress?
unidentified
Yes, I am.
steve bannon
Can you give us, you know, are you a stage actress, film, TV? I'm film.
Film?
And what made you, there's not a lot of MAGA in Hollywood.
unidentified
What flipped you become MAGA? I like to think that I have a brain in my head.
It's just common sense.
And I don't like the work agenda.
And so I'm kind of getting out of Hollywood in a way.
I also play music and I do many other things for children and so on.
What are your thoughts on President Trump taking back the Kennedy Center?
Oh, I love it.
I love it.
You know, because he's the only one who says what he's going to do and he says what he says.
And he does what he's going to say.
Do you guys want the J6 choir to perform at the Kennedy Center?
January 6th, by the way.
steve bannon
What I particularly love, you came to CPAC very low-key.
Can you explain your...
unidentified
And where can I get one of those gold MAGA hats?
I love that.
Well, you know, I'm an artist, so...
steve bannon
Did you make the hat?
unidentified
No, I ordered online.
steve bannon
Okay, fine.
Fantastic.
I love it.
Do you have a website we can go and follow you?
unidentified
Or your IMDB? Yes, I'm on IMDB. My name is Audrey Rutan, and I'm also the impersonator for Charlie Chaplin.
I'm known around the world as Charlie.
steve bannon
Hold it, that's you?
unidentified
Yes, it is.
steve bannon
Oh, I've seen that for years.
That's you?
unidentified
Yes, it is.
steve bannon
Oh, she's a very famous impersonator of Charlie Chaplin, right?
unidentified
Yes, I am.
steve bannon
Wow.
unidentified
Amazing.
Wow.
Your star meter is about to explode.
steve bannon
You never know who's going to walk in the war room, ever.
Hang on a second, hang on a second.
So how do people, where do people go to the site and know more about your great work as Charlie Chaplin?
unidentified
Well, on Google, under my name, Audrey Rattan, or INDB. I have my phone number on my website.
steve bannon
Okay, you've got to make contact with our producers.
Next year, we'll retain you and have you come as Charlie Chaplin.
unidentified
Perfect.
I would love it.
steve bannon
You would do that?
unidentified
Yes, I will.
Absolutely.
steve bannon
Let's give it up for Charlie Chaplin.
Okay, next time you heard Woke Hollywood said we don't have any talent, I love this.
unidentified
What are your thoughts on the Pentagon purge?
I don't dispute Colonel Harvey's statement.
I'm just not sure that the deep staters were smart enough to know that they were managing our decline.
steve bannon
Oh, you don't think they're just going about their business and the country was just collapsing around it?
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
Why do you say they were actually managing our decline?
His point is that, hey, they're just incompetent.
You don't buy that, right?
You're saying it was an active thing of managing our decline?
derek harvey
When you look at all the evidence and you sit in the meetings in the National Security Council, you sit in the State Department and you're at these conferences, you're at these trade meetings that we were setting up, and when every deal seems to be benefiting the other countries, other places, and not the Americans, it's benefiting our elite, certain industries, but not American workers.
The strength of the American economy.
Why does 88% of pharmaceutical and pharmaceutical ingredients come from China?
Why do we have to depend upon China for chips?
Why do we have to increasingly depend upon other countries for even our food?
You go across the board, avionics, components for computers.
This is a hollowing out of America.
And it was done purposefully, one meeting after another, one administration.
Bush, Obama, It stopped with Trump, and it started again with Biden on steroids.
steve bannon
On steroids.
Unbelievable.
Jane, let's get some more folks in here.
unidentified
Thoughts on the Pentagon purge.
I think it's perfect.
I mean, Trump is on it.
I trust him.
And as for the managed decline of our country, when they let in millions of foreigners without any paperwork, nothing, they're trying to bring us down.
And you've got veterans living on the street.
West North Carolinians living in tents, and you're sending millions to Ukraine?
Something's not right here.
It doesn't take a rocket science.
steve bannon
You agree with, by the way, what's your name?
unidentified
My name is Betsy, and I'm originally from Boston.
Oh!
steve bannon
Hang on, hang on.
unidentified
But I moved.
steve bannon
I could tell that.
Where you live now?
unidentified
I live in the Villages, Florida, and I love it.
MAGA country right there.
We're armed and we're conservative.
steve bannon
I love it.
Boston's a great town.
Why is Boston so woke?
unidentified
Oh, it's such a shame.
I mean, Paul Revere must be turning over in his grave.
I don't know.
Well, it's the universities.
steve bannon
You think it's the colleges?
You think it's Harvard?
unidentified
And Trump has got to institute a mandatory course on history, true history in this country.
steve bannon
What do you mean by that?
unidentified
It's kids, you know.
We were started in 1619 instead of 1620. Come on.
I just...
steve bannon
So do you think...
Is President Trump going fast enough on your...
unidentified
I can't believe it.
steve bannon
Is every day like Christmas Day?
unidentified
I can't believe it.
steve bannon
So hold it.
So hold it.
And look, Elon and I have a lot of differences, right?
We have a lot of differences.
But one thing I've never said is I do say I think Elon's got to get to the Pentagon and have the cuts.
We need to see more cuts.
But...
I don't think anybody could complain about Doge not going fast enough, right?
Every now on TV. So hold it.
But this is the way Trump thinks.
So President Trump just put out a true social.
And it says, Elon is doing a great job.
But I would like to see him get more aggressive.
unidentified
Remember.
steve bannon
Remember.
unidentified
Chainsaw.
Chainsaw.
Chainsaw to this.
steve bannon
Remember, we have a country to save, but ultimately to make.
Greater than ever before, MAGA. Let's give it up for President Trump.
Poor Elon, he got the chainsaw the other day from Millay, and President Trump's going, no, man, what are you doing over CPAC? Get over to the Pentagon.
President Trump, what do you like best about what President Trump's doing so far?
unidentified
The aggressiveness with which he's doing it, and he's taking no prisoners.
Like, make decisions.
steve bannon
But the media's saying it's too much, that people aren't ready for it.
unidentified
That's the media, Steve.
Come on.
Steve, I got two more things, and I'll let someone else talk.
I'm such a fan.
I'm passing out number two pencils.
They're all gone in the crowd.
And unfortunately, I didn't have time to engrave them saying War Room Posse, so I apologize.
That's okay.
It was mine.
Yeah, it's here.
And the other thing is I do need your autograph.
They're known as the comeback team in Boston.
This is Curt Schilling's autograph.
steve bannon
Oh, my Lord.
unidentified
The Red Sox that won the World Series after 80 years.
Yes.
So this is the comeback hat.
Okay.
steve bannon
We'll get you over in the bullpen.
Curt Schilling.
Curt Schilling used to work for us over at Breitbart.
unidentified
Oh, really?
steve bannon
Yeah, yeah.
I love Curt Schilling.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
That guy is the ultimate hammerhead.
I mean, he doesn't care.
I love showing.
unidentified
Good.
Thank you.
steve bannon
No, no, no.
I got the easiest job.
If you just go to the bullpen, we'll get you signed.
Jane, you got anybody else there before we go to the break?
unidentified
Your thoughts on President Trump's actions.
I'm Susan Christensen from Dallas, Texas.
So I just want to tell you, we're most interested in the border.
And the J6ers.
And a year ago, I came to CPAC to go to the Gulag to hear them sing.
You know, Mickey was there and all that.
And I'm really celebrating.
What you have done for the J6ers the last three days, I mean, it all has to come to force.
Thank you.
steve bannon
Thank you.
Look, I want to say, hang on a second, because we're going to go to break.
We've got a very special, we've got some very special guests going to join us.
I'll tell you, behind the scenes, to make sure all the J6ers got out.
People, Julie Kelly, others, Jim Hoff.
There were so many people.
So many people were working because all of them had to come out, and they're still not all out.
Remember, there's always forces that are saying, President Trump has to moderate.
That's why you always got to have President Trump's back.
All gas, no break, all the time.
Short commercial break.
We're going to be back with some special guests in a moment.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mack.
steve bannon
We're live here from CPAC 2025. Everybody at home, the chat rooms are going crazy.
We love it.
Got a war room posse here.
Very tough getting security.
We'll hopefully get a few more people here later in the morning.
Big day at CPAC. This is the day the president always speaks.
Remember, Colonel Harvey, it was CPAC in 2021 that the president was invited and went to CPAC in Orlando.
And that was the first step in the long journey back for him to win the primary, the Republican nomination, then win the White House.
Is President Trump moving too fast?
Can you believe President Trump looked like I said, Elon and I disagree on so much.
One thing I don't disagree on is Elon's working 20 hours a day.
You got doge guys all over the place, man.
They're popping up.
By the way, the judge, yes, a federal judge last night.
Back President Trump and Elon 100% to shut down USAID. I'm telling you, that was a big ruling.
USAID. Why is that?
Why is USAID the cash box for the deep state?
derek harvey
Well, let's just understand.
It's been used overseas to go after our friends and allies.
It's been used overseas for green revolutions to undermine and overthrow governments like they did in 2014 in Ukraine, of all places.
They've used USAID to go after Benjamin Netanyahu in Israel and other places.
steve bannon
Color revolutions.
derek harvey
Color revolutions.
But that money goes to NGOs around the world.
Okay?
And that money is used to fund leftist causes, and that money also comes back and feeds into the political parties on the left.
Not just overseas, but here in the United States, in my view.
steve bannon
By the way, there's a lot going on.
One thing, we've got some very special guests.
Let's go to, and we talked about color revolution.
Are these folks insurrectionists?
Are they patriots?
Ben Berkwam, take it away.
unidentified
Steve, we've got some more J6ers.
Tell me your name.
I'm Pete Schwartz.
And how long were you charged for?
I was sentenced to 14 years and two months for obstruction of an official proceeding, and I never set foot in the Capitol building.
steve bannon
Hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, Pete.
Hang on.
Obstruction of a federal proceeding was thrown out by the Supreme Court, I believe, as being totally illegitimate to charge you guys with, correct?
unidentified
Absolutely.
steve bannon
And you got 14 years on something that's completely illegitimate?
Is that what I'm hearing?
unidentified
That's absolutely true.
Everything they charged me with was just fabricated charges, and I don't know how they choose who they're going to charge what with, but they absolutely nailed me to the wall.
Eventually, I did end up getting my case overturned, but because of the politics and the optics that they're trying to present, which means it has nothing to do with justice, it's a legal industry, they held my appeal.
And they held it so the oral arguments on my appeal was one week after the election.
And my case did get reversed and remanded, but they didn't want that kind of information to come out before the election.
They didn't want people to know that January Sixers were actually innocent and that they're platforming off of us.
steve bannon
So the day the Supreme Court overturned, I think it was the Fisher decision, they didn't come to your cell, unlock it, and say you're a free man?
Since the Supreme Court of the United States said it was totally illegitimate.
unidentified
No.
And as a matter of fact, I felt like that should have reversed everything at that point.
But that's not even a win for everybody.
At that point, they say that you have to then get your appeal in and see if the courts will give you that same win.
Even though they said it's illegitimate, they know that you're there.
They know you're being held illegitimately.
But they're going to pull every trick in the book.
Just like when they overturned my appeal.
And I had already won it.
I didn't get released at that time either.
That was three days before Trump gave me the pardons, but I didn't get to talk to my lawyers or anything.
So I was completely unaware that I had won.
I got out when Trump got in.
And then days later, I found out that I had actually beat the case.
I would have never known.
steve bannon
Were you in a medium security?
unidentified
No.
They sent me to USPs, which are maximum security penitentiaries.
steve bannon
You were in a United States penitentiary?
unidentified
Two of them.
The worst.
The most violent and dangerous prisons in the United States.
steve bannon
Why did you rate that?
How many points do you have?
unidentified
I don't remember what it was because they recalculated it several times, but they made sure I was like seven points over the limit to be in there.
But when we...
When we were in the D.C. Gulag and we had a sheet that figured out your points, the way we calculated my points was I should have been in a camp or a low security.
steve bannon
And you went to a U.S. penitentiary?
Yeah.
Folks, you don't understand.
U.S. penitentiaries are indescribable.
unidentified
60% of the people in these prisons have at least one life sentence.
steve bannon
Unbelievable.
And so, hold it.
I just want to make sure.
If President Trump had not won re-election, where would you be right now, sir?
unidentified
I would still be in that prison.
I am so grateful.
And Jesus is my savior and Trump is my president.
And I'm glad to be here.
Amen.
We got more.
Tell me your name.
Jessica Watkins, sir.
And similar story?
Different a little bit.
I was one of the Oathkeeper defendants, so they really kind of singled the Oathkeepers out.
Unfairly, the J6 Select Committee made an example out of us.
steve bannon
Did they have female Oathkeepers?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
There was actually three or four of us there that day.
Okay.
steve bannon
Did they single you out for particularly rough treatment because you're a woman oath keeper?
unidentified
Yes, sir, yeah.
I spent most of my time in the hole when I was in...
steve bannon
Tell people what the hole is.
You're in a special housing unit.
It's kind of solitary confinement, right?
unidentified
Yeah, it's called the SHU. It's the special housing unit.
It's a...
steve bannon
When you're in prison, which is bad enough, it's a hell hole, they have a hell hole inside of a hell hole called the SHU, the special housing unit, and that's where they really put people to break them.
unidentified
It's really kind of egregious because they did it because they claimed we were terrorists.
steve bannon
There was nothing but activity you did in prison.
They just said you're a terrorist, you've got to go to the SHU? Correct.
unidentified
They said, yeah, because of your affiliations and because of your charges, you have to go to the SHU, which is egregious because the Oath Keepers, like Kelly Maggs, Connie Maggs, Joe Hackett, Kenny Harrelson, they rescued Officer Harry Dunn on camera, and they were all hit with terrorism enhancements, myself included.
I was rescuing people and dragging them out of the Capitol building on my shoulders.
I was stopping vandalism.
You know, like, so I do regret going into the Capitol building, but at the end of the day, I'm not a terrorist.
I love my country.
I'm a veteran.
I'm a firefighter.
I'm an EMT. All right.
God bless you.
steve bannon
Tell people, how tough are these female prisons?
You were in a medium?
unidentified
They can get pretty rough.
Drugs are really bad.
There's violence.
There's gang issues.
They can get pretty bad.
I was in a medium, yes, sir.
steve bannon
You're in a medium.
Wow.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
Those mediums are gladiator schools, right?
unidentified
They are.
It was kind of the Wild West.
steve bannon
You have to prove yourself every day, right?
unidentified
Yeah, and absolutely.
And the facilities are terrible.
I'm very, very passionate about prison reform.
I want to get involved.
If Doge wants me, let me know, because I'm happy to testify, whatever you need to know.
I'm happy.
I can tell you where the bodies are buried.
I know these prisons, and these prisons are corrupt, and they need to be cleaned up.
steve bannon
Jared and Peter and I, Peter Navarro, Jared Kushner, myself, because Jared's dad.
I went to prison for many years and he's been a big reformer.
His father's now the ambassador to France, very close friend of President Trump's.
We've been working for three months to try to get new leadership in the BOP. We haven't found it yet.
The institution is so messed up.
And people that are reformers are saying, it can't be changed, it's impossible, right?
And so we would love to have you maybe as the head of BOP. That's what we ought to do.
J6 is to run BOP. I just had the idea.
derek harvey
Make prisons great again.
steve bannon
Make prisons great again.
God.
So hold up.
We got a very special...
By the way, what's your name and where do people go to find out more about you?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
My name is Jessica Watkins.
You can find me on X. It's just my name, Jessica Watkins, except for instead of an E in my name, it's just a 6. So it's J6. Jessica Watkins.
ben bergquam
Hey, and Steve, what the enemy means for evil, God's using for good.
unidentified
Think about all these J6s that are in there that are going to create the prison reform to expose these guys for what they've done.
Does God work in mysterious ways or what?
steve bannon
By the way, three months ago, they were never in a million years because they thought Trump was never going to win.
That's why, by the way, these J6 prisoners were tortured by the U.S. government because they never thought...
That Trump will come back and they thought they'd die in prison or rot in prison and nobody would ever hear it.
That's what they think of you.
They want to put every person in the MAGA movement in prison, trust me, if they get back in power.
Let's go to the very special.
We got a very special artistic work there.
Look at that.
Hang on one second.
Hang on one second.
We're going to come back at the break.
We'll toss it to you.
Let's go.
unidentified
Good morning!
Turn it up!
Turn it up!
Here I am, a little older, a little wiser, a whole lot bolder And I got something to say In this world that we live in There are secrets that are hidden
I can tell you why, but you gotta believe You gotta believe Believe Open your eyes, no time to be blind Open your eyes to see
Oh, in a modern day, holy war Coming after your mind, out of your soul Oh, it's true Modern day, holy war Killed your blessings, fear, sin No more, no more Cause Jesus puts a light in you
Little children in a straight line Don't fall behind Oh no, the tele-vision's only meant to indoctrinate the mind See, you ain't always believing Doesn't mean it's true Oh, when there's unimaginable evil Roy under you
For in a modern day, holy war Coming after your mighty body, oh Soul, all in a true Soul, all in a true Modern day, holy war Modern day, holy war Count your blessings, be it sin No more, no more No more Cause Jesus put the light in you Light in you
Light in you Oh, count your blessings Be your service Till his will is done Could you be free, could it be true That everything you learned in school Is always just a great big stupid life Things you wouldn't believe Mind can't conceive Will probably make you break down And wanna cry Don't you wanna know How to stop the flow of evil So, play the way Ripping in the modern world
There's some answers to these words I'm gonna try And I'm gonna try To be honest I'm gonna try To be honest I'm gonna try To be honest I'm gonna try these problems if you want to solve them.
They're Jesus, love, and truth.
We're in a modern day, holy war.
Holy, holy, what are we waiting for?
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
And evil so blatantly run rampant in a modern world.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Evil so blatantly run rampant in a modern world.
Count your blessings be in sin no more.
I got so many chances.
Holy war.
Yeah.
Woo, woo, thank you.
Lady No Grady with a musical interlude.
steve bannon
By the way, she's going to play Kennedy Center also right in back of the J6 choir.
We'll upset them.
It is a holy war.
Ben Berquam, you've got more special guests.
What do you got for us, brother?
unidentified
Yeah, Steve, before we go to the painting right here, I just want to say we've got Joe Biggs in the house, one of the Patriots.
How many years were they going to give you?
How many years did they give you?
Well, they were going to give me 33 years, and Judge Kelly said that he was going to be nice and only give me 17. Unbelievable.
Yeah, I did four years and then two years of that in solitary confinement.
steve bannon
Biggs, you were at the Capitol yesterday?
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
Tell us about it.
unidentified
It was a setup.
I mean, it was insane.
The Capitol Police were holding back these three Antifa agitators, and all of a sudden they let them right into our mix, right into the crowd, and one of them puts her arms up right around Enrique, and him not knowing who it is because it came from behind, he swats the hand out of his face.
And the police are right there ready to pounce and grab him, arrest him, and put him in jail.
steve bannon
So he's released, though, right?
He got out?
unidentified
Yeah, he got out last night, which is what should have happened.
steve bannon
Are they going to even charge him, or is that all going to be dropped?
unidentified
No, but we're going to charge her, I believe.
steve bannon
Now talk to us about the lawsuit.
Tell us about the lawsuit.
unidentified
Well, we're going to sue the government for numerous things, for abuse, for wrongful imprisonment.
For what they've done to our families, to our lives.
We've lost our homes, our jobs, our ability to provide for our families.
Me, as a retired U.S. Army veteran, 82nd Airborne, I lost my benefits and my rights to the VA. I can no longer be seen.
I was just kicked out of the VA. So, you know, we have a lot that we need to fight for, and we're going to continue to do that.
That's why we're here, to seek help for pardons and things like that.
steve bannon
Let's give some support to the J6ers.
ben bergquam
And do you mind talking real quick about your daughter and what that experience was like when you left?
unidentified
Yeah, so she didn't have a dad, you know, and so for the first two years, she walked around with a framed photograph of me and slept with it, and that was her way of having a father, you know, in her yearly.
From four to six years old, that was the only way she had a dad, and now, you know, I left to come on this trip, and she didn't think I was ever going to come home again.
She didn't want to let go, so, you know, it's difficult.
It's not just affecting me, but it's affecting little Savannah, and, you know, we want to help get a little peace of mind back and try to bring some normalcy back to our lives.
I can't even take her on field trips.
Because I'm considered a terrorist.
steve bannon
Ben, let's...
unidentified
Unbelievable.
steve bannon
We have another artistic endeavor here.
unidentified
So check this out.
And by the way, we haven't talked about the lives that were lost.
Ashley Babbitt, Roseanne Boylan, all of those.
But tell us about this painting, sir.
So I did two and a half years in prison for J6. And I came home a year and four months ago.
And I manifested this painting six months prior to the pardons.
I figured we're all going to be pardoned.
And so I decided to do a little collage of some of the guys I was in with and then some of the guys that did prison due to the deep state.
Navarro, Steve Bannon, Marjorie Taylor Greene and Boebert were very big advocates of ours.
On the side here, I did Ashley Babbitt with her wings because she was murdered.
And so this just was a dedication to the guys.
Basically, that came home.
steve bannon
Hold on, I have one question about that.
That's you shaking President Trump's hand.
You look like...
Can we get a close-up of the cameraman?
Can we pull in?
unidentified
The idea was...
steve bannon
You don't need to see me.
Let's pull in.
Okay, hold it.
Can we straighten that up?
You're shaking the hand of the President.
Yeah, right there.
Okay, hold.
unidentified
Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.
Ho, ho.
steve bannon
Yo, pull it back a little bit.
Pull it back just a little bit.
unidentified
God.
steve bannon
Pull it back.
There we go.
Pull it back.
Keep pulling back.
Let's get more people in there in the shot.
Camera man, can you just pull the camera back?
Zoom out.
Zoom.
Ah, stop.
unidentified
Stop.
I'm like, I'm still too.
steve bannon
Okay.
unidentified
Can you help me out here?
steve bannon
There we go.
unidentified
There we go.
Hold!
steve bannon
We're in the war room, baby.
Harry, you're doing a magnificent job.
Thank you, sir.
Harry, how late were you out last night?
See, Harry, the Saturday morning show is always a struggle for Harry.
Okay, so you look great.
By the way, the artist is magnificent.
I know the artist may not want her name, but we've got to figure out how to get, you know, I think if you put...
If you replicate this, you could sell a lot of these and help the J6s.
But you look amazing.
President Trump looks great.
MTG and Boebert look amazing.
Peter Navarro looks great.
Hell, you got Roge back there with the eye patch.
He looks great.
You got all of them.
You got guys.
They all look great.
I look like crap.
unidentified
Ah, come on!
steve bannon
What in the hell?
I look like I've been in the shoe.
Do I look that bad?
I'm able to take makeup.
No, seriously.
What?
Does this artist hate me?
How do all these people look amazing?
unidentified
Oh, man.
I'm sorry.
Particularly you.
steve bannon
You're not that great in life, dude.
unidentified
Look at that painting.
steve bannon
You look like a movie star.
That's the best thing.
Navarra's half washed out.
He looks great.
I'm very upset.
Anyway, you're going to make some bother.
It's fantastic you had this commission.
And I love the fact that you've got the J6ers back there.
You know, like they wanted.
If President Trump had not come back and tell people, they would have been in prison still.
And some of these people, here's what gets me.
With your case, the Fisher thing, that one charge, they had to totally create a charge, and then they had to give terrorism upgrades to take these citizens and to make like a gulag like it was in Russia.
It's never happened before in the history of this country.
And the FBI, with as much problems we've got in this country, and particularly with illegal alien criminals, hell, Danbury Prison, 10% is illegal alien criminals, and these are bad hombres.
unidentified
Okay?
steve bannon
But hold it.
The FBI's not out trying to get them.
The biggest thing they've ever had in their life is J6 prisoners.
So you're telling me people that went and protested and demonstrated are worse than these illegal alien criminals are here mainly for fentanyl and drugs, and then killing guys?
It's obscene.
We need accountability, right?
derek harvey
Bingo.
steve bannon
We just can't let it go.
Look, they have to restore their lives.
We've got to figure out how to get back on the lawsuits, but also how to get back on their feet.
But inside the system, there has to be accountability.
The only way it's never going to happen again is to hold accountable who did it to these folks, right?
unidentified
Yeah!
derek harvey
USA! USA! So Pam Bondi and the new FBI director, Kash Patel, okay?
Who himself has been a victim of overzealous overreach by the FBI, going after his bank records, his metadata on his phones, as well as others that were investigating the FBI and their malfeasance.
They need to hold these people accountable.
They're going to have to investigate them, as Steve says.
But, you know, Pam and...
Cash have a lot of work ahead of them.
steve bannon
Oh, no, a lot of work.
derek harvey
A lot of work ahead of them.
steve bannon
I'm going to toss back to you because I want to get, hang on for once, I'm going to get all their, I want to get all the information so people at home can see it.
But I got to tell a story.
I'd never heard this story before.
So we had an international, you know, one of the things we're trying to do is unite the worldwide populist nationalist movement in all the different countries.
This Sunday, there's an election in Germany with Alternative for Deutschland.
And each MAGA It's different in each country as it should.
We're nationalists, and each country's got its own characteristics, right?
Hungary's different than Italy, and what's happening in Germany is very different than what's happening in England.
But directionally, it's all kind of the same, right?
These are populist movements of people trying to overthrow the political class and the elites that run their countries.
And so we had this dinner the other night, so we have so many foreign speakers, and we hosted a dinner that all of them would come together, and we had Nigel Farage talk and Ambassador Grinnell.
And Eduardo Bolsonaro stood up because his father just got indicted the other day for exactly what President Trump and what we all did in the 2020 election to protest.
They indicted him for a coup d'etat.
Okay?
40 years in prison.
And Ludo's a Marxist.
And Eduardo told a story.
He was there and talked.
He says, look, I've never told this before.
Eduardo has a brother.
That's actually, I think, part of the government has been a representative in Brazil in the Congress.
And a former, I think, also police officer and a police official.
And he has a girlfriend here in the United States.
And the girlfriend got pregnant and they had a baby.
So he was coming back to Washington more frequently, like twice a month, to see her and then go back to Brazil.
And one day, the FBI... Comes knocking on the door.
unidentified
Boom, boom, boom.
steve bannon
They walk up.
There's like a couple of FBI guys there, right?
Now, they're not up armored, but they say, we're the FBI. We got to come in here and ask you some questions.
And they go down there and they grill her for like five hours on everything that Bolsonaro, this is his oldest son, is doing.
Why is he coming?
He's coming back more frequently now.
We notice it.
Got all his travel records, all the phones, everything.
Pulled it, right?
And she's like shocked and he says, well, you know, I'm pregnant now and we're eventually going to get married and I think that's why he's coming.
The guy goes, are you sure about that?
And she goes, well, I think I'm sure.
Yeah, I know him pretty well.
And he goes, are you sure he's not coming back to see Steve Bannon?
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
steve bannon
Out of nowhere.
This is how evil they are, right?
This is how evil they are.
They want to destroy, and don't think we're past this, folks.
This is why I keep saying, we can't, and look, President Trump, why did President Trump tell Elon this morning to go faster and harder, right?
We're in probably the most dangerous time right now, because it's when so many people, you see how people are jubilant, hey, we won, the J6ers are out, it's all good, we can just forget, and we forget everything that happened before, and just go back to your lives, and by the way, probably half the people that vote will do that.
But that's why we need a cadre of people to say, no, no, no, no, no.
We know exactly what we have to do.
And the harder stuff's coming right now.
I mean, President Trump yesterday fired the head of ICE, right?
Who I hear is a pretty good guy.
Now, he put him in charge of specifically getting more people out here.
But the complaint was there's not enough deportations, right?
And so everything's going to come together now.
And I've got to tell you, in cutting the budget, which President Trump obviously wants, End those deportations.
You think the firestorm on the media is bad?
You saw what happened in the speech the other day?
Remember at the end of it?
I gave you guys a wave?
Global headlines.
unidentified
Bannon tosses Nazi salute to fascists.
steve bannon
I go, what?
I said, I do that in every speech.
And then the guy at Front National, Bardella.
It is a provocative gesture.
I cannot come.
Hey, dude.
If you can't come after I wave to the audience because the media says bad things about it, you are never going to run France, man.
You got to be tough.
If President Trump had done that, this is what they want.
The media wants to kowtow you.
They want you to make you afraid of every movement you have, everything like you're being watched all the time.
Here's what you got to tell them.
I guess there are kids around.
I can't say it.
unidentified
I can't do it.
steve bannon
Colonel Harvey's little son's here.
No, no.
The little nine-year-old girl, the genius is back here.
Jane Zirkle's here.
I can't do it.
But you know where I was going.
Okay, let's get...
We got a couple minutes and we'll get all the information from the J6ers.
Your personal handles, where you go, etc.
Where do people go?
And the artist.
I know we can't go but for him.
And we got to somehow...
We'll work with you to get it so we can...
Put out copies.
unidentified
After they edit your image on there, I'm sure.
steve bannon
No, no.
I'm going to take a beautiful picture here and paste my head on there.
unidentified
So, I'm Pete Schwartz and you can find me on Twitter.
It's J6Pete and it's at J6PeteSchwartz.
And that's where you can find me.
I want to put out some information.
Everybody give me a follow because I really want to, like Steve Bannon said, to start the reform, we have to start with accountability.
And if we don't hold them accountable, we can't change this.
This is something I want to work on.
My contact would be Facebook.
I'm kind of old school.
I know.
I'm horrible.
Zuckerberg.
Horrible.
That's Sam West on Facebook.
The only Sam West on Facebook.
Okay.
And I am Jessica Watkins.
You can just find me.
It's just my name, Jessica Watkins, except for instead of an E in Jessica, it's just number six, so it's like J6. And Steve, speaking about guys that were there, we got this guy.
Ivan Ranklin, you were out at a lot of the trials.
You were, you know, your background, Green Beret, all of this stuff.
Talk to us.
You were just talking about it.
Hold on, hold on.
steve bannon
Ivan was the one guy, besides all the protesters, every one of my trials, everyone, Ivan, thank you so much.
You being there was fantastic.
Standing up for, I know you went to a lot of the J6 stuff.
Just having you there.
And Ivan, here's the kind of guy Ivan is.
You got all these crazies with the sign.
These are, it's a coup.
Trump's a fascist.
Ivan will get right up in their face, okay?
The cops are going to come and break them up.
unidentified
No, I appreciate you, Steve.
I normally don't like the Navy, but this Army guy has mad respect for somebody that is the OG Danbury J6 prison choir guy.
So, hands up for the guy that was weaponized along with you guys by Nancy Pelosi.
steve bannon
But here's the thing about...
Let's go to break.
We'll come back with you.
The thing to remember is that...
Your government that you pay taxes to, right?
And the government that you raise as a kid to say, hey, if the government's doing it, it's got to be right.
These J6ers, what they did to keep them in the D.C. gulag, right, and try to break them, everything, 100%, was to break them and to make them take deals where basically you said President Trump told you to do it.
What they wanted to do is a direct connection.
This is what Jack Smith...
He didn't charge President Trump with being an insurrectionist, and the reason is these people didn't break.
And remember, these guys got 17 years in the U.S. Penitentiary, because every day is a struggle when you're in there, right?
Every day is a struggle.
So 17 years is just unbelievable.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to be back live in the war room here at CPAC 2025.
Back in the war room in a moment.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Stephen K. Bannon.
*Dramatic music* Ben Berkholm, what do you got for us?
Ivan, go ahead, Ivan.
ivan raiklin
Yeah, so if I may, I wanted to kind of make a recommendation of where the investigations need to go in order to get the accountability that everybody's essentially clamoring for.
unidentified
I would recommend that the following five individuals within the leadership of the U.S. Capitol Police and the legislative branch be investigated by not only Barry Loudermilk's subcommittee under Jim Jordan, but also by the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, the Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth, as well as the new Director of the FBI, Cash Patel.
So the following five individuals.
And for those that watch Steve Bannon a lot, get your number two pencils out because you need to write some of these names down.
Number one, Speaker Pelosi.
Yes.
Yes.
Number two, the General Counsel of the U.S. Capitol Police, Tad Tobias.
Number three, the Staff Director for the J6 Committee, David Buckley, who so happened to have been one of the 51 spies who lied and was the Inspector General for Johnny Boy Brennan, the former CLIA Director.
Who else we got there?
Jamie Raskin.
And I think those are maybe four or five of the key individuals.
David Buckley, Jamie Raskin, the Tad Tobias.
And oh, I forgot to mention the fifth one, Paul Irving, the House Sergeant at Arms on that day.
When we investigate all their communications, all their text messages, emails, and all the meetings that they had, I can almost guarantee you that we will then be able to prove the entire Fed's direction as it took place.
steve bannon
Hold on, hang on, hang on a second.
Walk through, give me that one more time for this audience and people at home.
You're saying what now?
unidentified
Speaker Pelosi as the...
Senior law enforcement person on January 6th as the Speaker of the House must be investigated.
Her Sergeant-at-Arms, Paul Irving, who was also the Sergeant-at-Arms for Paul Ryan before that, and John Boehner before that.
Notice the connections there.
Number three, the General Counsel of the U.S. Capitol Police, Tad Tobias, was instrumental in manipulating what would be released in terms of CCTV footage, as well as instrumental in being behind the manipulation I pronounce it dumb, to go ahead and perjure himself at all these different trials, not only Harry Dunn, but also in the Oath Keepers trial, but also these other U.S. Capitol Police officers.
A lot of this has been exposed by Steve Baker, great journalist over at The Blaze.
And luckily, like, so just to recap, Speaker Pelosi, Paul Irving, House Sergeant at Arms.
David Buckley, the staff director for the January 6th Committee.
Number four, the House Sergeant at Arms, Paul Irving.
And lastly, Jamie Raskin led the impeachment hoax number two effort.
Those are the five key players that were involved in the Fed's direction and its subsequent cover-up.
When Barry Loudermilk, D&I Gabbard, Secretary Hegseth...
Director Patel all maybe put together a task force as well as along with Anna Paulina Luna's new committee for declassifications.
I think we're going to get to the full truth of what happened on January 6th with the pipe bombs, with the Ray Epps question, and everything.
steve bannon
Ivan, would you volunteer to work on that task force?
unidentified
I would be happy to volunteer as a participant to lead it.
I could care less about any title.
I just want to get to the truth.
And you know what?
Although a lot of people call it accountability, you know because my last name starts with the R. You know my favorite word, Steve, and unfortunately not too many people like it, but it's right here.
It's right underneath my suit and tie, and it starts with the letter R. Retribution, baby.
steve bannon
You're the R word.
You like retribution.
Is retribution a bad word?
unidentified
No!
steve bannon
Where do people go to get more information, Ivan?
unidentified
I'm on X as long as Elon allows me to speak.
It's Ivan Raiklin.
And once he doesn't allow me to speak, you can find me on Telegram, Truth, and Rumble.
R-A-I-K-L-I-N. Do we want accountability?
Yes!
steve bannon
Do we want retribution?
derek harvey
Yes!
steve bannon
Thoughts?
derek harvey
We want transparency.
You know, Joe Biden gave a pardon to a whole bunch of those people already.
steve bannon
He gave pardon to the entire committee and the staff.
derek harvey
But we want the information out, and we want the speaker to release all of that videotape, all of it, so that the crowdsourcing can go through it.
We want to go after all of that information in order to expose the truth.
And with the truth, you'll get accountability.
But then those with authorities...
And the investigative know-how.
They need to get after it and hold those that are not pardoned accountable, too.
Exposure and accountability.
Those are the two things we need.
steve bannon
We've got a special guest here right now, Brother Garris.
Come on up.
I'm going to show you some inside baseball in the war room.
This is a photo.
This is a painting that we keep next to the war room in my chair every day.
You guys can't see it on camera.
Given to me by Brother Garris here.
Explain who that is and why does it sit in the war room?
unidentified
All right, can you hear me?
steve bannon
I got it.
derek harvey
I got it.
unidentified
Okay, this is a painting.
steve bannon
You got to project.
unidentified
Come on, man.
steve bannon
You're in the war room.
unidentified
Speak up.
All right.
First thing I want to say is all glory be to God because there's a lot of divine providence that led to this and a lot of things related to Steve.
But this is a painting that A friend of mine in Fairhope, Alabama did back in the 90s.
And he did two paintings, one of the Battle of Flamborough Head and this one that has a close-up of John Paul Jones where he uttered his famous quote, I have not yet begun to fight.
And what we can learn from this is John Paul Jones was very aggressive.
He went after the enemy in this battle.
He literally latched on to the British ship, and they fought a four-hour battle, in which time they asked him twice to surrender.
And the first time he told them, you know, I've not yet begun to fight.
And the second time he said, I may sink, but I'm not going to strike my colors, which meant surrender.
And this is the fighting spirit of the War Room Posse and the MAGA movement, and this man right here.
I remember when they first indicted this guy here, and he was being perp walked into the courthouse, and he turned to the media and looked right into the camera and said, I have not yet begun to fight.
And that was a moment of defiance.
steve bannon
Hey, and we won, right?
Hell with them.
The only thing, they only understand a fight.
They will roll over you.
They'll take all your liberties.
They'll take all your money.
They'll put you in prison.
They'll put your kids in prison.
unidentified
Now, the fun part of this painting, the guy wanted realistic stuff, so we had to line up.
We built a wooden wall, and we live-fired a 12-pound Napoleon cannon into the woods so he could see how...
Realistic, it would look like when a cannonball sunk into its ship.
steve bannon
Let's give it up right now as we go to break.
Top of the hour.
The right stuff.
Garris, thank you so much, man.
Fantastic.
unidentified
Fight!
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