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Episode 4284: Live From CPAC 2025 Day 1 cont
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steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
unidentified
We're here at CPAC. Live.
steve bannon
Real America's Voice.
Fascinating interview right there.
Mercy Schlapp, Vice President of the United States, J.D. Vance, that kicks off CPAC. CPAC's going to be pretty explosive this year, correct?
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
steve bannon
That's called a micro...
Are you eating...
Brett, dude, you pounding down a donut?
Is that what we're doing here?
unidentified
It's not visible to the camera.
steve bannon
It's not visible to the camera.
Okay, we've got Balazs Orban here.
Tell us, Victor Orban is a hearer here in the United States to MAGA. Why is that?
balazs orban
You should tell us.
steve bannon
No, no, I want to hear.
What do you guys think?
balazs orban
It's a great show what we have here, and we remember now CPAC is extremely popular.
Everybody wants to be here.
steve bannon
CPAC Hungary is going to be when?
balazs orban
It wasn't the case a couple of years ago, but we were here, and we were fighting for the same things.
Well, we are fighting, and most probably this is why my Prime Minister is also...
steve bannon
Tell us what the fight is in Hungary.
Why is that?
Why is Orban so close to the President, and why is he considered the bridge, particularly as the President's, you know, trying to think through geo-strategically, geo-economically what we're doing in Europe, particularly with Russia?
Why is Orban so important?
balazs orban
Because I think it's very much in line with what was said by the Vice President, that we are fighting for our civilization.
So it's not a usual political ideological fight between two political parties.
It's about the survival of our civilization, because the liberals in the last years, last decade, they destroyed everything that made us strong and powerful.
And now, if we are not able to push them back, then our countries will go down, as it happened in the United States, as it's happening in Brussels, which is the liberal capital of...
of Europe and Hungary is leading the resistance now against the Brussels neoliberal...
steve bannon
Talk about that resistance.
As Doge and other of these efforts to get back to the US budget, we're finding out now USAID, which I think was hidden from everybody, this one aspect of it, funded a lot of the negative media throughout Europe and particularly in Hungary.
You guys are calling for an audit or you're calling for a full exposure?
Of money that went in from the US government?
balazs orban
Actually, American people, American taxpayers' money were spent, sent to try to delegitimize the Hungarian government and the conservative values which are shared by them.
Many, many, many of the American taxpayers' money.
unidentified
When you say you're fighting to save your civilization, over here that sounds like a political cliché.
What does that mean?
Because it's useful for Americans to hear Other cultures speak to saving civilization.
What does that mean for you?
balazs orban
Well, we are an old nation in the middle of Hungary, a thousand years old.
It's a landlocked country, but not a mindlocked one.
We have a very unique culture, a unique language, and we appreciate the traditional values, which are...
Which are helping us to make the next generation strong.
I mean, you need to have family, you need to have kids, you need to remain sovereign, you need to be able to secure your borders, you need to be able to provide freedom and work opportunity for the people.
This is what good governments do.
And now these liberal institutional structures, as it is happening in the states and as it is happening in Brussels, they are working against this.
It's so obvious that we are standing here.
And we need to not reform the structure.
unidentified
And a majority of your people share this strongly.
So how does this, like in this country, a minority in the media, in elites, Almost seized power.
balazs orban
Same story here.
When the migrants in 2015, there was a year when 400,000 people, illegal migrants, wanted to march across our country.
And the Prime Minister said, no, no, no, no.
It's not going to happen.
Law and order.
We closed the borders.
We built a fence.
And we didn't let them in.
And then we organized a referendum.
We asked the people, because that was an issue which has not existed before.
In a democracy, you have to ask the people, if something serious happens, you have to ask them, what should be the response on the government side?
So we initiated a national referendum.
Overwhelming majority of the Hungarians.
Even those who disagree with the government on many points were saying...
You did the right thing, you didn't let them in, and you should stick to this plan.
unidentified
70%?
balazs orban
It's 90%.
steve bannon
90% of people just said, no way, we don't want people coming through our country, we don't want to settle in the country.
Illegal, yes.
balazs orban
And what is happening now is that Brussels, it has a pro-migration position, so they launched a legal attack against Hungary.
And they used the judiciary, as they used it in the United States as well, against the country.
And now we are under a sanction.
We have to pay every day 1 million euros, which is that we are not letting the migrants in, which is a huge amount of money.
It's almost 400 million euros per year.
But my prime minister says that it's even worse.
Because it would cost much more if we let them in.
steve bannon
But Hungary hasn't had any of the problems you've seen in Germany, in France, none of the attacks, none of the collapse of really big parts of society, what you're seeing in England, none of the problems that have come from having that just open borders.
balazs orban
It's so simple.
If you don't have the illegal migrants, the streets and the cities are safe and sound, and you don't have terrorist attacks.
It's not rocket science.
It's a simple fact.
steve bannon
I want to go back, though.
I don't think people in our country are just becoming aware.
I want to be specific.
U.S. taxpayer money went to fund media operations that went against Orban and his government for what he was doing specifically to save his country and that had 90% support of the people.
Even many people don't agree with Orban.
Politically on many things, support him on this, and you had taxpayer money going in to support these organizations there to destroy Viktor Orban.
balazs orban
And the situation is even worse because George Soros and his organization...
steve bannon
I think I've heard of that name, George Soros.
balazs orban
Yeah, it's a well-known name here in the States as well.
And he is...
Dedicatedly against Orbán and against the Hungarian government.
steve bannon
Why is he so determined to destroy Orbán's government?
balazs orban
Because he wanted to take over Hungary and we didn't let it happen.
So he is furious.
He wants to get rid of with the government.
And he convinced the Biden administration to use the taxpayers' money to help his organizations.
Operating in Hungary and Brussels.
steve bannon
As an opposition to Orban.
balazs orban
As an opposition.
steve bannon
And paid for by U.S. taxpayers in the Biden regime.
balazs orban
Yeah, so I don't see the point why American taxpayers' money should be spent to support multi-billionaires' political agenda.
unidentified
He's for the open society, though.
He's open to all these ideas of democracy.
Yes?
balazs orban
It's a good joke.
steve bannon
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think it's open borders.
Okay, talk to us about CPAC Hungary and talk to us about going forward.
Where do you see Orban's role, Hungary's role?
President Trump thinks very highly of Orban.
I think he sees Orban as one of the potential bridges of the United States into Europe.
Walk us through what's happening now and going forward, particularly with President Trump.
balazs orban
Until now, we have been actually the only country in the liberal ocean who wanted to lead the resistance.
Now we have a friend on our side, so it's rebelling to hear that you can talk about how bad migration is, you can talk about how important to protect Christian values is, and it's a completely new world order, a new reality for ourselves.
I think it's very good for the United States of America, but it's not my job to decide that.
It should be decided by the American people, but I'm 100% sure that it's very good for Europe.
And very good for my country.
And think about the war.
I mean, for like three years, we were constantly saying that this war has to end because it has no reason...
steve bannon
And Orban was criticized by that.
You were saying they're a puppet of Putin and you guys were ostracized.
Is there any facts on the ground that lead you to believe that Orban was wrong about the decision he made, which is the same...
The same position War Room took from the very beginning.
balazs orban
You know, if you take seriously that you want to end the war, how do you want to do it if you are not restoring communication channels between those who are fighting?
It's impossible.
So then you are not saying seriously that your goal is to end the war.
You want to fight the war.
If there is no communication, it means that you want to fight the war and you want to destroy your enemy.
I think we Westerners, and especially not the Hungarians, shouldn't focus on trying to destroy each other and trying to destroy the Russians.
We should find a way to peacefully coexist.
steve bannon
Do you think there's a way to peacefully coexist with the Russians in Europe?
balazs orban
I think it's possible.
steve bannon
Viktor Orban thinks that?
balazs orban
I think it's possible, and I'm very happy to see that the American administration is working to find a way out.
steve bannon
Let's talk about that.
They're trying to find a way, obviously, but what about President Trump's observations or criticisms?
About Zelensky and Zelensky's government in the last 72 hours.
balazs orban
You know, like, these are just facts.
And you don't argue with facts.
So this is the reality.
This is how things are looking like.
And I'm Hungarian, so I can't speak in the name of the Ukrainians, but there is a Hungarian ethnic minority who is living in Ukraine.
And they are suffering very much from the bad consequences of the war.
And they want peace.
So I know that the Hungarian minority who is living in Ukraine, they want peace.
And they want to end the war.
And they want leadership which is working together with the United States to end the war as soon as possible.
And I think this would be the only possible outcome for Europe as well.
There was news about the negotiations in Saudi Arabia.
Immediately, gas prices went down, energy prices went down, stock market went up.
So just it had an immediate positive effect on the everyday life of the European people.
Imagine what would happen if we are able to settle the conflict, as it was mentioned by the Vice President as well, and find a long-term agreement between NATO, between the United States of America, between the Western world and Russia.
It would be very good for all of us.
So we should work it on.
I know it will be hard.
It's not easy.
There is many emotional aspects of it.
But adults should take control and take the lead.
Otherwise, we are going to keep going down.
steve bannon
We'll send our regard.
Look, we think Viktor Orban, we were with him in Texas.
He speaks at CPACs all the time.
Now CPAC has had a very successful run in Hungary.
They're going to do another one in late May.
I understand.
War Room will be there.
Representing will probably do the show live from there.
Where do people, if they're interested to find more information about Hungary, Viktor Orban, and particularly you, all your writings, social media, where do they go?
balazs orban
Social media.
X is a good platform to do so.
steve bannon
And what's your handle?
balazs orban
You have a standing invitation in Hungary.
You should have live broadcasting.
steve bannon
Yes, yes, yes.
balazs orban
He is a very popular man in Hungary.
Hungarians love him.
steve bannon
It's easy.
The Hungarians are on the right side of every issue.
And Viktor Orban is a hero because for many years they tried to ostracize him.
And now you know that American taxpayer dollars...
Unbeknownst to American citizens, went to try to destroy what you guys are doing in Hungary.
And now Viktor Orban has looked on the world stage as a hero, as somebody that said everything was going to happen about the Ukraine war.
And he's obviously, President Trump thinks very highly of them.
They're very close.
Probably has the best relationship of anybody on the continent.
So what's the handle on social media?
Where do they go?
Not just Axe, but...
balazs orban
Yeah, but I think Axe is important.
Follow the Prime Minister, Viktor Orban, and we have some very good politicians, the Foreign Minister and some others follow them, and there are some free speech-based small outlets in Brussels as well.
So if you want to hear real European news, European Conservative, which is...
Partner of American Conservative Affairs.
So you can find some.
steve bannon
And what is your handle on social media?
balazs orban
Do you have one?
Yeah, I'm Balazs Orban.
steve bannon
Balazs Orban.
Okay, we'll get it up in the chyron.
Balazs, thank you so much for joining us.
balazs orban
Thank you very much.
I appreciate it.
steve bannon
These are heroes.
balazs orban
God bless you.
Thank you.
steve bannon
Remember, it was very easy to criticize, for the Europeans to criticize Hungary, but they stood tall in the breach.
And this is why right now, where President Trump tries to bring this war to a conclusion, with his geostrategic...
Realignment, you have all the same demons and devils, the whole source-backed Brussels crowd, you know, baying at the heels of President Trump.
Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
We're back here live.
Oh my gosh.
They're starting to gather.
A gathering of eagles here.
Unbelievable.
unidentified
James Zirko's going to be in the mosh pit when we get back.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
steve bannon
We're going to be back.
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unidentified
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steve bannon
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unidentified
Welcome back.
Thank you.
steve bannon
Can we play this on the screen back?
If we can, okay, guys, can we put this on the screen back right there?
You see the screen at home.
They're on the Senate floor.
You know what they're doing right now?
They're voting for Kash Patel, the director of the FBI. The number is 2-0-2-2-2.
No.
They're already going to vote.
Is Kash going to be confirmed today?
How big a day is that?
Is this going out?
Is this working?
This is huge.
unidentified
How big a day is that huge?
steve bannon
How big is it?
Let's hear it from the posse.
How big is it Kash Patel's going to be director of the FBI? What a gnarly crew.
They must have opened up some of the gates here, right?
Unbelievable.
We had a great yesterday.
unidentified
Philip Patrick, by the way, from Birch Gold.
steve bannon
Hi, guys.
Gold was $1,100 an ounce when we parted up with Birch Gold.
Of course, now the Bank of England came to make deliveries.
Just saying.
Oh, there's certainly enough physical gold out there in the world.
Are you looking forward when Doja audits Fort Knox?
phillip patrick
Very much so, Steve.
Like Ron Paul, for the last 30 years we've been wanting to know what's happening there.
So some transparency finally on the horizon.
steve bannon
Remember, we never tell you to buy gold here.
We pass you over to the experts at Birch Gold.
Phillip's got a team.
The Warren Posse loves them.
They take care of you.
They walk you through all the instrumentalities.
But I just want to throw out a theoretical question.
If when Doge goes down to Fort Knox to do the audit and there's no gold.
phillip patrick
That's a frightening position to be in.
unidentified
Go to birchgold.com slash Bennett.
steve bannon
Forget end of the dollar empire.
Just talk to Philip Patrick and the team.
I'm just saying, Ron Paul's asked for an audit.
Ron Paul hasn't asked for too much.
He's asked for an audit.
This is Rand Paul's dad.
He asked for the audit of three things.
He just wanted three things to be audited.
The Treasury Department, right?
And you see what Dozier finds some stuff out there now.
Treasury Department.
The Federal Reserve.
He wanted to audit the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve because he thought it was a little kinky, you know, how the elites kept getting bailed out.
unidentified
Do we want to end the Federal Reserve?
phillip patrick
I think we might, too, Steve.
steve bannon
Okay, ask right now.
Why do you want to end the Federal Reserve?
unidentified
Why do you want to end the Federal Reserve?
It's probably corrupt, and they're taking our money, and they don't answer to anybody.
How about you?
Why do you want to end the Fed?
Why do you want to end the Fed?
steve bannon
They're illegitimate.
They're people.
It's not the government.
Andrew Jackson had the same problem.
Do you guys trust central banks?
unidentified
No!
steve bannon
You notice how the elites continue to get bailed out?
Do you guys get bailouts?
unidentified
No!
steve bannon
How big was your bailout?
What was the largest bailout you ever had?
phillip patrick
None!
steve bannon
No, no, you pay for the bailouts, okay?
You always have.
Okay, the third thing he wanted was to audit Fort Knox.
Now, how hard would it be to go, you got all the gold bullion, you got it in these huge slabs, you got it in small things, but how hard would it be to go and actually audit what we have there?
phillip patrick
Listen, they can get it done if there was a desire to get it done, but there isn't.
And the question we have to ask ourselves, Why on earth would we want to resist an audit?
They're saying, look, we don't want to spike global panic.
Why would people panic?
There's something going on there, and we need the answers.
And that's why Musk and the team are pushing for it.
And fingers crossed we get it.
steve bannon
Secretary Besant today, Dave said, well, he made an announcement day, I think on Fox Business he was being interviewed.
dave brat
Yeah, NTD, I think he validated Doge.
It has so far, say, $50 billion, so that's a drop in the bucket compared to $40 trillion in debt, but it's a huge start, and they're on the right path.
And they're just starting.
Once this logic goes across every agency, there's no end.
steve bannon
If you've got to start somewhere, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
Place fraud and abuse.
If it's $50 billion and they've been doing it for 30 days, that could be $500 or $600 billion to cut the deficit.
You've got to start somewhere.
Elon said he could get to a trillion dollars.
If it's $50 billion in the first month, God bless them.
Now, here's what we have to do and make sure.
This is the problem with the CR. This is the problem with what they want to do to kick the can down the road all the way to September.
A simple CR for the end of the year, which is what they want to do.
We have Biden's numbers, right?
So President Trump's first year, the fiscal year we're in, is all on Biden's math and Nancy Pelosi, right?
A little bit of Nancy Pelosi.
There's a $2 trillion deficit already baked in there, and the CBO backs it up.
But worse, all the efforts of Doge for this year don't get included, because you basically got to agree to it.
It's an up or down vote, right?
And so you're essentially...
The logic is, oh, we're going to pay again for things we already know are waste, fraud, and abuse.
It's insanity, right?
That's why you can't have a continuing CR. It's got to be different.
dave brat
I've got a question for all of you out there.
How many of you voted for your Congress member last year after they voted for a $7 trillion Nancy Pelosi budget?
Did you all return your members to Congress that are doing that to you?
Right?
It goes back to the people, right?
The people got to wake up and smell the coffee and quit returning.
If your members are voting for $7 trillion budgets, turn the spigot off.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to have a lot of fights because these are, you know, President Trump today said he's for one big beautiful bill, right?
So that'll probably come in July and August.
Now, one big beautiful bill kind of feels like an omnibus, but hey, look, we may have to take one for the team, but we'll see.
What Dave Brat said yesterday in the force multiplier is most important.
All those fights we have to have between now and the final bill have to be done in committee, and that's going to take your support.
That's why you've got to give Bill Blaster, Article 3, all of it.
You see right there on the floor of the Senate, we're moments away from the Cash Patel.
dave brat
Go Cash!
Government gangster!
steve bannon
You know, I love the fact that Russ Vogt and Peter Navarro and Scott Besant and Mark Paoletta and now Cash Patel, all of our friends and colleagues and people, either co-hosts on the show, but then we can't have them on the show anymore, right?
I think War Room's a little too down market for the official.
You've got to go on CNN or MSNBC or Fox, right?
You've got to do it.
Now, you want to see him?
unidentified
You want to see him on War Room?
steve bannon
Okay, fine.
We'll put official inquiries in.
Let's go into the mosh pit.
We got Jane Zirko.
By the way, Burkham's upstairs because it's still kind of tough to get down here.
We'll go to Burkham in a second.
Jane, who do we got in the mosh pit?
unidentified
Your name and where you're from?
Peg Davidson, Clayton, Georgia.
Your name and where you're from?
Suzanne Rossi, Arlington, Virginia.
Your name and where you're from.
Vivian Hall, Bushnell, Florida.
And show me your shirts.
Oh, the number two, Pernsell.
Oh, wow.
And the Rampart.
Wow.
Wow.
Your name and where you're from.
steve bannon
Hold on, hold on.
Hang on a second.
The front of it is the Outlaw book, the Rose of the Outlaw.
unidentified
We have the book right over here.
Show the book to the camera.
steve bannon
Oh, wow.
unidentified
She's looking for cash.
steve bannon
Hang on for a second.
What do you guys hope to get at CPAC? Why did you come?
unidentified
We're part of the posse.
We're very active, and we want to learn, and we want to spread the word, and just keep on rolling, keep on growing the MAGA, keep on growing the posse.
And I thought we should do something like Trump 47 used to do, put actual people in places and states who would need to do a War Room 47 like that, that we could go around to different Republican clubs and high schools, and perhaps if you guys are like...
steve bannon
So hold on.
What's the idea?
Usually there's no pitching in the War Room, but this sounds interesting.
So go ahead and pitch.
What's your idea?
You mean set up little nodes of war room all over the country with posse?
Do you think you guys would be into that?
unidentified
Yeah!
Take sections of each state.
Have people represent each section of each state.
Go around.
steve bannon
Why are you coming?
That's a great idea.
We'll get Mo and you guys can talk.
unidentified
I have another Jay Sixer over here.
Tell me your name and your story.
So, my name is James Grant, and before January 6th, I had multiple near-full-ride scholarships to a number of law schools.
And I guess someone's got this card.
And I never just showed up.
I was whisked off to jail.
I beat most of the charges at trial, but...
I'm picking up the pieces of my life, and, you know, it's really hard.
steve bannon
So hold it.
Up until J6, you were a quote-unquote solid citizen, scholarships to go to law school.
What law school?
unidentified
The University of Alabama, and I also got accepted to Washington and Lee up there.
steve bannon
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on a second.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Joe Scarborough went to the University of Alabama Law School, didn't he?
unidentified
No one's going to get...
Maybe we can swap a degree there.
No one's going to hit the back of their head on any coffee table.
Whoa!
steve bannon
Whoa, you went there.
So what happened now?
Are you picking up your life?
unidentified
So I have not.
I just disappeared for three years.
I just never showed up to the law school.
And I'm waiting to get all my ducks in a row.
Because the media has literally lied.
And they said that, you know, I was acquitted.
steve bannon
The media lied?
The media actually lied?
Was it fake news or was it a lie?
unidentified
It was the worst.
I mean, they literally said I was found guilty of charges that I was acquitted of.
And, you know, they're really serious.
I'm waiting for them to take them down.
Currently, I'm hesitant to apply to law schools with fake news.
You know, it prevents me from applying because I don't want them to see that and even AI pulls from that.
steve bannon
Where do people go to find your story?
Social media?
You got a website?
unidentified
Yeah, I like to use X. James Grant J6 on X. Let's give a hand for James.
steve bannon
James?
We'll be right back to you, Jane.
Okay, I want to make sure that we get everybody...
Oh, Lord, look at this right here.
They're 10 deep.
Thank you guys for showing up.
We're taking a short commercial break.
Philip Patrick Birchgold's with me.
We're going to talk why the Bank of England can't make physical deliveries of gold.
I'm sure it's not a good time to buy physical gold.
We kind of stepped into this, didn't we?
unidentified
We did indeed.
steve bannon
It's pattern recognition.
Okay, short commercial break.
We're going to be back live at CPAC 25. We've got the war room posse here.
Thank you, guys.
The force multiplies.
We'll be back.
Cash Patel being voted on the Senate floor.
unidentified
He will be the next director of the FBI before the war runs over.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. .
Okay, welcome back.
steve bannon
We're gonna go, that's the floor of the Senate.
I don't have my glasses.
Where we stand, Brett, with that vote?
Brett?
Cue Dave Brat.
Brat, don't be making your lunch reservation.
We're still live.
unidentified
Hey, there we go.
Can we give a big hand?
We got Dale Bigtree up here.
Hey, everybody.
Thank you.
steve bannon
We got to merge together, Maha and MAGA. First off, I actually like this set up so much better.
We got so much War Room Posse down here.
We had a big turnout yesterday.
We're going to get to all you guys in the mosh pit.
Okay, so a couple things going on.
On the Senate floor, they're voting for Cash Patel to be the director of the FBI. I talked to Cash last night, and he wanted me to send his personal regards.
He said, hey, this would not have gotten done without the war room posse bombarding Capitol Hill.
So he sends his thanks.
It's a very big moment for him.
So guys, just amazing, amazing job.
Two things I want to tell you.
Birch Gold, tell me about what's the situation with these physical deliveries.
There's all these rumors about gold coming from Bank of England to the United States, some arbitrage.
There's also about the Bank of England's running out of physical gold.
There's all types of rumors.
There's not enough physical gold.
And this is the reason, hey, that people don't want an audit in Fort Knox.
So what's going on?
phillip patrick
Yeah, it's getting crazy.
And ultimately, the big driver is demand.
Huge demand coming out of the United States, New York specifically.
steve bannon
Demand out of New York?
Well, hold it.
There's not that much war.
There's some in New York.
But what do you mean?
This is major financial institutions buying?
phillip patrick
This is major financial institutions.
I think there's an understanding now that we're in a climate conducive for gold.
So they've been calling reserves from London.
Reports are that the vaults of the Bank of England now are emptying out.
steve bannon
Hold on, repeat that?
The vaults of the Bank of England are emptied of gold?
phillip patrick
Are empty of gold.
There's reports that they're reaching out now to other countries who gold they custody to see if they can borrow it.
Now, if that's not concerning, I don't know what is.
But the key takeaway here, we're seeing demand increasing across the board, and it's no surprise.
Listen, President Trump and the team...
You know, I've been to CPAC. This is my third one.
And, you know, we've been talking about what needs to be done.
Now we're talking about what is being done.
So that's very exciting.
But it is a big task in front of them.
There's no better team assembled to deal with it.
But we got some bumpy roads and precious metals in climates like this.
steve bannon
If we can, if Cameron, my team, I've got it.
I just say that again.
del bigtree
Free Tommy Robinson.
steve bannon
Amen.
unidentified
That's right.
steve bannon
I love Tommy.
By the way, we're going to be there.
If we can't get Tommy out beforehand, we're going to be there live on September 3rd, I think, in London when he gets out.
Sen, you volunteer?
unidentified
I will go.
He is the Patriot of London.
steve bannon
Can we get you a visa to get in the country?
unidentified
Hey.
steve bannon
Highly unlikely.
unidentified
I'm just kidding.
steve bannon
I don't know if I can get in the country.
unidentified
All day we'll go.
steve bannon
Fantastic.
Right now, okay, Kash Patel on the Senate floor to be FBI director.
You're here right now.
President Trump sent out a tweet today.
President Trump on True Social sent it out.
Balanced budget, let's try it.
Okay?
You guys support President Trump for that?
Now, that's going to take Doge Plus, but I'd like the sound of it.
President said today he concurs $50 billion in the first month.
From Elon Musk and the Doge team, what are the two or three things that have to happen in your mind to start to write the ship here?
phillip patrick
Look, we're heading in the right direction, like I said.
As Dave said earlier, it's a drop in the bucket.
But every drop counts.
I think Doge is going to be very important.
Cutting out the waste, the bloated contracts, and closing that deficit as quickly as possible.
They understand the problems, and that's the important thing.
And they're addressing them.
They're addressing bricks.
They're addressing debt and deficit.
So one step at a time, but we're heading in the right direction.
steve bannon
Okay.
Phillip Packer has become a star over the last couple of years from his hits here on War Room.
We're going to send him out to the mosh pit.
Birchgold.com slash Bannon into the dollar empire.
But what you do is go make contact with Philip Patrick's team.
Philip, social media, where do people go?
phillip patrick
At Philip Patrick on Getter.
Again, at Philip Patrick on Getter.
dave brat
Philip Patrick, I got a question.
Hey, listen up all you Federal Reserve people.
Philip, do you, at Birchgold, do you have what's called fiat gold, theoretical gold, or would you call it tangible?
Touchable gold.
phillip patrick
We would call it physical, tangible, touchable gold.
The only type of gold you want.
unidentified
Big deal.
dave brat
Give them a hand for supporting the War Room Posse.
steve bannon
The War Room Posse.
They want to see the receipts and they want tangible.
Okay?
They're a tangible crowd.
Let's give it up for Philip Patrick Birch Gold.
phillip patrick
Thank you, guys.
Thank you.
unidentified
Philip Patrick.
dave brat
You like that one?
steve bannon
The newsflash.
The Bank of England's vaults are empty of gold.
unidentified
That's...
steve bannon
Okay.
We just got Bobby Kennedy approved the other day as health and services.
unidentified
You guys were key.
steve bannon
Dale Bigtree was a huge part of Bobby Kennedy's campaign.
Obviously, before that, it wasn't for Dale Bigtree.
We wouldn't know anything about the vaccines, right?
Dale Bigtree's group went into court, got the judge.
Remember, they had a 75-year hold on all the information.
Dale went in there.
Now, Dale, you made a decision not to go into HHS as one of Bobby's senior leaders in that department.
Tell us why that decision, and what are you going to do going forward on the Make America Healthy Again?
del bigtree
Well, I mean, as you pointed out, someone has to stay outside of a government to sue the government.
That's what we do.
That's what ICANN's been doing.
We've won against NIH, CDC, FDA, Health and Human Services.
We won back the religious exemption for vaccinations in Mississippi.
We're instrumental in bringing back the religious exemption so you could opt out in West Virginia.
I want to continue to do that work.
But the truth is that Robert Kennedy Jr., there's only so much he can do in there.
And if he's going to bring radical transparency, the way we do that is he's going to get the information, but someone has to be requesting it with FOIA requests, Freedom of Information Act requests.
If somebody in that department is, you know, putting black lines...
steve bannon
Hey, Brad, isn't Dale Bigtree...
You're from Texas, right, Dale?
del bigtree
I live in Texas now, yes.
steve bannon
Isn't Dale Bigtree showing that naivete that everybody...
You know, it's Mr. Smith goes to Washington.
They all come up here.
They're all reformers.
What is Congress...
How much is Congress bought and paid for by Big Pharma and Big Medicine, Dave, Brad?
dave brat
Yeah, I can't wait to see President Trump and RFK Jr. get rid of the middlemen and drain the swamp of that money that's going to the Congress.
But yeah, your guess over the past few weeks, Big Pharma is the number one donor over Defense Department, over Energy.
Big Pharma, you don't know it.
They're vertically integrated, which means they own everything in their own supply chains or horizontally.
Antitrust is supposed to hit that.
They haven't been doing antitrust.
We got Gail Slater and some superstars coming there.
So it's going to be a great team, and I just applaud all the work you've been doing.
del bigtree
I agree.
I agree.
And to your point.
That's why we have to keep pressure from the outside.
I'm not, you know, under any delusion that it's going to be easy in there.
By bringing lawsuits, by putting pressure on the government, we're going to create that release valve and that channel through which the information can start getting to the public.
So that's what I'm going to be doing with Maha.
I'm CEO of Maha.
We're starting a new website, Maha.io.
I'm doing the Maha podcast.
steve bannon
What is Make America Healthy Again?
We know what MAGA is, right?
We've got MAGA here.
What does Make America Healthy Again actually mean?
del bigtree
And how do I sign up?
Well, it goes so well.
It goes so well together with MAGA. Really, it's about body sovereignty, right?
If I don't control my own body, then what freedom do I have?
I mean, you can talk about the Constitution of the United States.
steve bannon
That's big, right?
del bigtree
But right now, in many states, your child is being coerced into a vaccine program, injected with products that you can't control.
unidentified
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
steve bannon
Are you one of them anti-vaxxers?
del bigtree
I'm a vaccine realist.
I'm all about transparency.
steve bannon
Okay, what does that mean?
Interpret that?
Because I can tell you the mainstream media, media matters, heads blowing up right now.
Bannon starts the show with J6, then he brings on, then Philip Patrick says there's no gold in the Bank of England, then I got Dale Bigtree, the nutcase in the back of Bobby Kennedy, and the reason Bobby Kennedy is Health and Human Services, if we were Cash Patel, this was Bobby Kennedy's guy.
unidentified
Some murderers wrote a day of kooks on War Room right from CPAC. I'd have the same position if they were forcing our kids to eat specific food.
del bigtree
You shouldn't be forced to put anything into your body.
That's all that we're into, which is freedom and the right to choose.
steve bannon
You believe that?
Let's get some feedback from the posse.
Let's go into the mosh pit.
Do you guys support Make America Healthy Again?
unidentified
All right.
steve bannon
Where are they from?
unidentified
I'm Becky Grindle.
I'm from Pittsburgh.
And as I watch this vote rally, I think back to Dan Scavino's tweet from yesterday that says, accountability is coming.
Your name and where you're from?
Hi, my name's Lorianne Angelucci.
I'm from Philadelphia, PI. Your name and where you're from?
Tracy Weaver, North Fort Myers, Florida.
steve bannon
What do you guys, hang on, what do you guys think of Make America Healthy Again?
Should we merge?
Should the two movements merge?
unidentified
Should we merge MAHA and MAGA? Yes, merge it all.
One big happy family.
Your name and where you're from?
del bigtree
Janine Pascarosa, Boston, Massachusetts.
unidentified
Your name and where you're from?
Liz Rotan, Houston, Texas.
Your name and where you're from?
Dawn Hogan, Pennsylvania.
Let's go back quickly.
steve bannon
Why did you guys come to CPAC? What do you hope to take out of CPAC this year?
unidentified
More activism.
More activism.
Knowing what lane we need to be in because we are...
steve bannon
More activism.
unidentified
We the people.
We got to do it.
I love being around the like-minded patriots and seeing my heroes up close and personal.
It's just exciting.
Dave Bratt for governor.
All right.
Hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it.
Do we want to see Dave Bradt run for Governor of Virginia?
Just saying.
Just saying.
Vox Populi.
What are you excited to do at CPAC? I came here to see Steve.
steve bannon
Talk to my producer.
unidentified
Cindy Pugh, southwest suburb of Minneapolis, and I came for the Force Multiplier Academy.
steve bannon
How was that?
How was it?
unidentified
It was phenomenal.
I came prepared with my number two pencil.
steve bannon
Let's see that.
Let's get that on camera.
unidentified
Wow.
What brings you to CPAC? White fibrous clots that embalmers have been finding in the veins and arteries of the corpses.
Hold it.
steve bannon
Hang on.
I almost passed out yesterday when you showed me that.
So listen.
Here's the good news.
I'm going to pass you on to Dale Bigtree right after the show.
That's Make America Healthy right there.
unidentified
Your name and what brings you to CPAC? Seymour Wexler, San Diego, California.
I'm here to help, and I'm not from the government.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
steve bannon
Hang on a second.
unidentified
Are you the guy who's trying to flip California MAGA? Yes, sir, and you told me it was a heavy lift.
In my life, I've had a lot of heavy lifts, and we're going to do it.
steve bannon
Can we turn California MAGA? Think so?
I think Make America Healthy Again may be the nose under the tent, right?
del bigtree
I mean, if they keep burning down the houses of everybody that's voting for them, I don't know how much longer they can last.
steve bannon
Yeah.
We'll put Rick Grinnell on that.
Rick Grinnell.
Good to see you, sir.
unidentified
Your name and what brings you to CPAC? I'm Tracy Brown from Pittsburgh, and just to see President, Vice President, all the new appointees, I can't wait.
Second year.
Are you?
Are you?
I keep watching.
steve bannon
Jane, let's try to go around here.
unidentified
Can we move the camera around here?
What brings you to CPAC? My name is Kim Proctor, and I'm from Tennessee.
And I was here last year, and I came to see...
Your name and what brings you to CPAC? Karina Simpson.
I'm rehabilitating from California, living here in Alexandria.
Your name and what brings you to CPAC? My name is Renee Nichols, and I'm from the great state of Alabama.
steve bannon
All right!
unidentified
Roll Tide!
Roll Tide!
Your name and what brings you to CPAC? I'm Laura Tillman.
I'm from Arizona, where we're fighting very hard to get it read.
It is read, but we're trying to keep it read.
Keep Arizona read!
steve bannon
Hang on a second.
Dale, where do people go to get all your information?
We're going to be back on tomorrow.
Where do they go right now?
del bigtree
The best way is to go to mahaaction.com.
That's where we're doing all of our legislation.
unidentified
Maha Action.
del bigtree
And then check out my weekly talks at thehighwire.com.
Dale Bigtree, let's give it up!
unidentified
Make America healthy again.
We're going to put these two movements together.
Alright.
del bigtree
Thank you.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
Fantastic.
unidentified
Okay, welcome back, CBAC25. CBAC25.
steve bannon
Okay, it's every day is like Christmas Day, right?
You've got President Trump signing executive orders.
He did a huge one last night.
By the way, Cassius votes right there.
It's finished?
Is that it?
dave brat
I got Caroline Wren over here is reporting Senator McConnell is retiring.
unidentified
Yeah, Senator Mitch McConnell just retired.
It's Christmas Day!
Goodbye!
steve bannon
Mitch.
Goodbye Mitch.
Goodbye Mitch.
We hate to see you go.
unidentified
Judas For he's a jolly good...
May all the...
We're not like that here in the war room.
steve bannon
Yes, we are.
Mitch McConnell.
By the way, the war room posse took out McCarthy.
Took out Mitch McConnell being leader, right?
Took out the entire establishment, the RNC. Mitch McConnell broke his pick on what topic?
Ukraine.
Remember that?
We were up that whole weekend.
We were in posse.
We live-streamed on Real America's Voice.
There were 25,000, 30,000 people all day long watching speeches.
Mike Lee gave a great speech.
Mitch McConnell pushed it.
Couldn't get it through.
And that's when he realized he stepped down as leader.
Now Mitch McConnell's retired.
Today will not run for re-election.
unidentified
Is this Kentucky Liberation Day?
Do we need a great MAGA candidate in Kentucky?
You Kentucky long rifles, man, come on.
What a day.
steve bannon
Think about the irony.
Cash Patel's about to be voted in to be FBI Director and Mitch McConnell announces he's retiring.
unidentified
Are you telling me that's, and Donald Trump's in the White House, are you telling me that's not the hand of divine providence?
Is God sending us a message?
Hold it.
Where are my girls?
To the ramparts.
Where's the to the ramp?
Okay.
Okay.
Go China.
Go China.
We're out of control.
Trolling.
steve bannon
Wow.
unidentified
Hey, hey.
The War Room is a town without pity, okay?
steve bannon
Natalie Dominguez, we had a t-shirt there a moment ago, said, got to man the ramparts.
We need, yesterday we had 500 or 600, 700 people here for Force Multiplier Academy.
Today, massive crowds at CPAC. They'll be even bigger this afternoon when certain of our War Room Posse members sober up and begin the day in the early afternoon.
They'll be here.
How does Home Tidal Lock make sure that they're manning the ramparts and not paying off $100,000 second to some hard money lender?
unidentified
Hey, guys.
I am so happy to be here with you today.
As always, wishing it was under better circumstances.
Obviously, we have a lot going on right now in making sure that our taxpayer dollars are going towards things that we actually wanted to go to.
But we also want to make sure that our equity is safe.
So there are things that criminals can do right now because our, excuse me, our...
Law is not kind of up to date with everything that we can do digitally.
So us here at Home Title Lock, we're essentially identity theft protection for your house, for your title, for your property.
We want to make sure that your equity is safe.
HomeTitleLock.com and the War Room has been fantastic.
They have partners with us.
steve bannon
Triple lock protection.
24-7 coverage.
They alert you in the middle of night, no matter if anybody's messing with or looking at your title.
Most importantly, the million dollar guarantee on restoration.
What is that?
unidentified
So we'll spend up to a million dollars if you are a victim of fraud to restore your title, get everything back to where it is.
steve bannon
You'll pay legal fees up to a million bucks?
unidentified
You guys have nothing to worry about.
Nothing comes out of pocket.
So if you are with us and you are a victim of fraud, we take care of you so that you don't have to start from scratch.
You don't have to put any of the work in.
steve bannon
Okay, triple lock protection, a million dollars restoration.
You've got 24-hour coverage.
They alert you in the middle of the night.
Million-dollar restoration.
HomeTitleLock.com.
unidentified
Steve25.
steve bannon
Steve25.
I like that.
That's so much easier to remember than War Room or Bannon.
unidentified
Let's give it up for Natalie Dominguez.
All right.
steve bannon
I keep telling Home Tide Lock the best hire they ever made.
Natalie Dominguez, the head of, no, head of education.
I was confused before you came on.
Now it's all clear.
unidentified
Glad I could clarify.
steve bannon
Triple lock protection.
Okay, Mitch McConnell's gone.
Dave Bratton, how big a deal institutionally?
Look, we don't wish Mitch McConnell ill, right?
Okay, no, no.
We don't wish Mitch McConnell was ill.
You just want him gone, right?
How big a roadblock has he been against President Trump in the United States Senate?
Huge?
Ginormous?
Dave Brack, how big a deal is it that McConnell's...
dave brat
No, when I was in the House, the Speaker of the House controls everything.
When the votes come, what the budget's going to be, foreign policy decisions, it trickles all down.
And he's run by the giant Excel spreadsheet in the sky.
Called donor money.
steve bannon
But is the leader of the Senate the same power speaker?
unidentified
Oh, same thing.
dave brat
Even more.
He was a strategist.
He was smart.
He knew how to use the levers.
Congratulations, but he moved the country in the wrong direction.
And so now we've got new energy.
steve bannon
Is his boss, the people of Kentucky, or these folks, or is it the donors, the money?
dave brat
No, no.
It's all the donor class, and they live out of fear instead of out of faith.
Right?
They're always scared they're going to lose elections.
And instead of trusting you, and if they give you a great agenda like President Trump does, how you respond to Trump's agenda?
Hello?
unidentified
Right?
dave brat
I mean, that's it.
That's all you got to do.
steve bannon
Okay, let me give you some logistics here.
Okay, we're coming to the end of the show.
I think, yes, okay.
The morning show.
We're going to be back in the afternoon.
However, I'm going to give a speech from the main stage at about 4.15, 4.30.
We'd love to have all the war room posse.
I'll give you guys a shout out.
Remember, don't get too ratted.
I don't want to have you guys thrown out before I start, okay?
Then I'm coming back to do the show here, 5 to 7. Everybody come down and join.
Then we have a party tonight.
If you don't think you're on the list, make sure you see Mo.
I'm sure we're going to break the fire code, so we may have to stand outside for a while before we get everybody in, but it's going to be an incredible party.
We want everybody there.
Then Sunday, we're going to have a brunch.
We want everybody there.
So if you hear...
Locally, if you've got a ticket, one of the tickets for CPAC, you're invited to everything.
We're going to fit you all in.
Today, historic day, one of our co-hosts and a dear friend, the Cash Patel, is going to be the FBI director.
It's amazing.
unidentified
Love you guys.
steve bannon
We'll see you in the main theater about 4.15, back here at 5 o'clock.
unidentified
Until then, you've been in the war room.
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