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Episode 4274: He Who Saves His Country, Violates No Laws
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Who's basically saying, I am the law.
I'm above the law.
Yeah.
Napoleon Bonaparte, of course, declared himself emperor of France in the wake of a revolution intimately linked with ours.
Sorry, Caddy, I know this is a rough day for you, given 1776 through the...
Caddy actually has a...
On Yorktown, she wears black.
The anniversary.
But the point of the United States of America, as Thomas Paine said, is that in America the law would be king.
Now, I am not going to naively or sentimentally sit here and say that no American president in history has ever gone beyond the bounds of the Constitution in order to govern.
They have always followed the letter of the law.
That is not true, right?
Thomas Jefferson bought Louisiana from Napoleon, by the way, calling it a fugitive occurrence.
It was not strictly within the bounds of the law.
If Alexander Hamilton had tried to do it, Jefferson, his head would have exploded.
But people tend to be against executive power until they have it, which is an important thing to remember.
This is about context, balance, and scope.
Did Abraham Lincoln go beyond the bounds of the Constitution to save the Constitution?
Yes.
I just ask you, and I ask the country to think about, is this a crisis on the scale of the Civil War?
Now, it's emerging as a very important, critically important moment about the rule of law.
But it begins with President Trump telling us, essentially, that the country is in the, I'm paraphrasing, but only narrowly, is in the grip of a dark and even evil force and that he alone is going to break that grip.
And therefore, Enter Napoleon from the internet.
Therefore, anyone who saves the country and breaks that grip is intrinsically heroic.
And the danger we have here is that if in fact President Trump believes that anything he does is justified, then we are in a place where We genuinely have not been before.
Having presidents who have violated the letter and even at times the spirit of the Constitution, the Declaration, is something we have had before.
Sometimes we view it well, which I think Lincoln ultimately is redeemed by saving the Union.
When he suspended habeas corpus, shouldn't have done it ideally, did it, Union survives.
We still go to the Lincoln Memorial.
But some of the dark chapters that presidents then have to endure for all of history, the internment of the Japanese-Americans during World War II, is something that Franklin Roosevelt's administration always has to bear, and that was a violation of the spirit of the Declaration and the Constitution.
To me, that's the question.
Is President Trump doing something that, if it's in a particularly vociferous way, is it justified by the circumstances, or is he doing it simply because he can't?
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
The reason I got a free shot at all these networks lying.
About the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
Mega Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
It's Monday, 17 February, in the year of our Lord, 2025. It's President's Day, and Meacham, once again, is a very confused guy.
Hates Trump so much, he's very corn-fused.
It's President's Day.
And throughout the day, we will be going through President Trump, the 47th President of the United States, taking on the administrative state in the deep state as he tries to save his country.
This controversy came with President Trump put up on True Social.
He who, a quote from Napoleon, or maybe it's apocryphal, he who saves his country breaks no laws.
That was tied to Napoleon coming back from Egypt.
When he returned and then joined, I guess, the triumvirate running Paris at the time, he said, I found the crown of France in the gutters of the streets of Paris, and all I need to do is take my saber and pick it up.
He was talking about the lack of really political control as the revolution grinded on.
I might want to mention to Meacham and his talk about the founders.
Nobody talks about this episode, but...
Alexander Hamilton.
The Federalists, not only, they weren't for a standing order, but they wanted a huge army at one point in time to put down, I think it was the Whiskey Rebellion, and basically get taxes.
They brought Washington back to command the army in Adams' first term, Adams' only term.
I think it was in 1798, and it was a Hamilton scheme.
Hamilton made himself a major general in the army.
And this is going to be a huge effort to go, I think, put down the Whiskey Rebellion and to make sure I was in western Pennsylvania and get the tax revenue.
Whiskey Rebellion, I believe it was kind of cratered.
I'm doing this from memory.
But Alexander Hamlet, these guys would break the law all the time if it was to their benefit.
You just got to understand the foundation of the country.
Hey, it was very dicey there for a number of years in the founding of the republic.
Very dicey.
In fact...
And they all hated each other.
Hate each other's got so much that Burr later essentially executed Hamilton in a duel.
Jefferson had Burr tried for treason in a plot with General Montgomery to maybe carve off Texas and build her own empire.
Adams and Jefferson hated each other.
And they all hated Hamilton, who hated them all back.
Washington was kind of above the fray, but no, come on.
What President Trump is doing here is trying to take on the administrative state.
You see how hard it is?
Can't even get a corrected number.
Anyway, we're going to get it all into it.
We're going to do the courts.
We're going to do Ukraine.
There's like five meetings going on.
General Kellogg didn't make the planes.
Zelensky's not invited.
But I want to start to have Julie Kelly.
Julie Kelly joins us by phone.
And Mike Davis is going to amend it.
So I got the McCarthy series of seven.
Of Andrew McCarthy just going off viciously.
This is the National Review crowd.
You can never satisfy these guys.
These wimps who essentially lost the country and allowed the deep state to run the deal, right, and kind of went along.
The controlled opposition has now got their back up.
Also, there's a big hearing at 11 o'clock this morning.
As President Trump, I guess, is also going to the Supreme Court, Mike Davis is here.
On the legal front, it's guns up and everybody's shooting at everybody.
Julie, make it make sense for me.
julie kelly
Well, first, let's address Andrew McCarthy, who is the legal analyst for National Review and Fox News, who announced over the weekend he would be publishing a seven-article series criticizing Attorney General Pam Bondi and her DOJ and attempts to depoliticize the Department of Justice.
Now, this is consistent with the president's executive order that he issued on day one.
To root out the political weaponization of the country's most powerful law enforcement organization.
An institution, by the way, that has historically low public trust numbers, especially among Republicans.
Of course, the repudiation of the lawfare against the president, his advisors, like you, and almost 1,600 of his supporters over January 6th.
Electing him with a partial repudiation of this lawfare, but leave it to Andrew McCarthy, a former federal prosecutor, hasn't been in the DOJ for a very long time, stepping up now to defend his former, well, to rank and file of his former employer, the DOJ, and attacking Pam Bondi, who has been on the job, I think, 11 days so far.
And so this is a series that I will be covering.
I posted some of it yesterday.
He has a new article out today.
I really got to applaud him for his bandwidth and his workhorse ethic here.
One long article a day over seven days, that's a lot to produce.
So this is where the National Review is going once again back to another Trump route and defending the indefensible Department of Justice.
steve bannon
Yeah, exactly when we've got to be united.
Naturally, those guys are going to come out and have their say.
You want to know about these prosecutors.
They're supposed to be so great.
Why did they stick around for all the Biden?
Why didn't they resign?
Where's all their profiles and courage during the weaponization?
Crickets.
What they did is that they were the henchmen.
Oh, we were just following orders.
No, no, no.
It didn't work for the SS. It didn't work for the Gestapo in Germany after the war.
Oh, we were just following orders.
That's not good enough.
As soon as Trump gets in there, boom.
They're all profiles encouraged and lauded by the left-wing media.
Talk to me today about the court cases.
What's happening at 11?
Mike Davis is here.
We're going to the Supreme Court.
President Trump's forcing, having a forcing function today that could get pretty important about where we're going in all of this.
What's happening at 11 with your favorite judge, Julie Kelly?
julie kelly
Yes, so 11 o'clock here, and I will be covering this on X at 11 a.m.
Eastern Time.
This is related to a temporary restraining order, a lawsuit filed by several blue states, including California, Michigan, and Massachusetts, trying to stop Elon Musk and Doge from doing what they're doing, which is exposing to American people for the very first time all of the wasteful, excessive, unaccountable spending.
That Doge is uncovering, especially at USAID. So these attorneys general for these states are asking Tanya Chutton to enter a PRO, which, of course, we've seen several D.C. judges already do that related to other lawsuits trying to stop the Trump administration from exercising his presidential authority.
And so that's at 11 o'clock to see if she will order this temporary restraining order, basically putting a halt to Elon Musk while she considers a preliminary injunction.
Now, on a related note, there was a lawsuit filed by Hampton Dellinger, the Biden-appointed head of the Office of Special Counsel.
Hampton Dellinger, a buddy of Hunter Biden's, they used to work together at Boys Schiller during the whole Barismat scandal.
He was appointed to a top spot at DOJ by Joe Biden in 2021, then moved to head of the Office of Special Counsel.
Donald Trump fired him on February 7th.
He filed a lawsuit a few days later, again seeking a temporary restraining order.
Judge Amy Berman Jackson, one of our other favorites, Trump's beating Judge Obama off-wancy on the D.C. Circuit, entered that temporary restraining order, Donald Trump to put Hampton Dellinger back into this very powerful, unaccountable post where he can issue, open up investigations into violations of the Hatch Act.
Of course, that was a favorite tool during the first Trump administration.
And other things that he basically can do on his own.
Abraham Jackson ordering Hampton Dellinger back into that office.
the circuit court over the weekend in a split decision to Democrats Biden appointees one, Trump appointees Greg Katzis.
In a dissenting, and Mike Davis can talk about this as well, he said that that opinion, that order should be appealable.
Temporary restraining orders typically are not.
But because this clearly violates Donald Trump's authority, presidential authority, Article 2 authority, that Hampton-Dellinger should be removed, that that CRO should be vacated.
And this is actually a danger that this Democratic.
Okay.
to the president and his administration.
So they filed an application.
The solicitor general, the solicitor general for the president, filed emergency application before the Supreme Court.
They'll take that up in the next day or so to reverse that temporary restraining order and allow the president to fire Biden appointee Hampton-Satlinger.
steve bannon
We've got to bounce.
What's your social media?
You're going to be going live at 11. What's your social media?
Where do people get you?
julie kelly
Julie underscore Kelly, too.
steve bannon
Julie Kelly, we'll have you back on this afternoon to talk about all of it.
Julie Kelly.
Short break.
Davis is on the other side.
We're going to lay out the battle map of where it's all going in federal courts.
I'm still telling them, watch the New York City, watch Manhattan, where evil lurks.
Short commercial break.
Johnny Conn takes us out with American Heart.
Mike Davis, it's President's Day.
2025 in the war.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon
Okay.
CPAC, we want everybody there, particularly in the region, if you can get there, ticks are 76, boxcpac.org slash war room.
Wednesday, the whole day, we're going to have an amazing, amazing four days to get to know everybody.
Have some one-on-one time.
We're going to do an incredible, and Grace and Mo and the team have been working on the Force Multiply Academy.
We're trying to jam everything in.
It won't be as crazy jammed.
We're going to actually give it some more space to breathe because we have some drill downs we've got to do with the posse.
It will be streamed, but to be there in person will be next level.
Jack Posobiec is committed through Real America's Voice to do his show live, so we're going to do the War Room live on Wednesday from the space we're going to have the Force Multiplier Academy.
Jack Posobiec is going to do it at 2. So you're going to get at least three hours of the show.
And the show's going to be integrated into the Force Multiplier Academy.
So I want to see everybody there.
And it'll be a good situation report of where we stand and what's going on and what we need to do to man the ramparts.
Second and third tier nominees are coming up.
Cash for Tail still will come up.
So we're still going to have to man the ramparts.
I'm going to say a little bit about that in a while.
About Bridge Colby, one of the...
One of the guys, the policy guy over at the Pentagon, that's been getting a lot of grief behind the scenes, being knifed up a lot behind the scenes.
We're going to try to sort things out on that.
Really a big fan of his book, Strategic Denial, the Strategy of Denial, and talking about the Chinese Communist Party.
I want to do the legal because they hold out in this resistance.
As they always do, their default position.
In fact, John Holman gave the game away the other day.
He was on MSNBC. He says, hey, the courts bailed us out in the elections of 2020. His words, not mine.
And now they're bailing us out now.
So the courts all over the place.
And they got these walking to one judge and the judge rules for the whole country.
So and I want to get to also the because you're seeing this already in the ranks, the people that can.
Draft off President Trump that can dine off President Trump's policies are not really populist nationalists.
They're not America first.
They're still globalists.
They're still established order Republicans.
National Review always being the worst.
And they've just got a full-on attack by Andy McCarthy.
In fact, let's deal with that first in this thing in the Southern District.
Mike, you put up some pretty hot talk over the weekend on your Twitter feed.
About the SDNY. Now, look, the woman Sassoon is a clerk for Scalia.
Right, brother?
Come on.
He picked the best.
They got a couple other guys like a war hero in there.
This should be the flower of what you've been working for, Davis.
The Federal Society, Mike Davis, you guys have worked for years.
You've labored in the vineyard to get quality people like that.
Why are seven of them...
I call it the St. Valentine's Day Massacre.
So why is this actually a positive for President Trump?
Instead of being the overwhelming negative that Andrew McCarthy now says essentially – basically he's going to write a piece every day.
Julie Kelly is going to deconstruct it.
But at the end of it, he's going to say Trump should resign because he's already broken the Constitution.
He'd just walk away before he gets impeached, sir.
mike davis
So I just published last night a FoxNews.com opinion piece on this very topic where you have these interim – this interim U.S. attorney in the U.S. attorney's office for the Southern District of New York who got a civics lesson in how the Constitution works because you had the Attorney General of the United States –
Pam Bondi, who works for the President of the United States, Donald Trump, have her acting deputy.
Attorney General Emil Bove tell the interim U.S. Attorney in the Southern District of New York to dismiss without prejudice the bogus corruption charges against New York City Mayor Eric Adams.
And Bove did not tell the U.S. Attorney that these charges were bogus.
He simply said that this does not fit within the President and the Attorney General's Prosecutorial priorities because the president and the attorney general wants to work with the New York City Mayor Eric Adams on deporting illegal immigrants the hell out of our country, right?
And the point is this, that that's the president's decision.
He is duly elected by the American people.
He campaigned on the fact that he's going to work with these mayors to deport these illegal immigrants.
The American voters, like what they heard on November 5th, they gave him a broad electoral mandate, 312 electoral votes, all seven swing states, and his Senate-confirmed attorney general is carrying out the president's And to these career bureaucrats in the executive branch,
any employee in the executive branch, political or career, they need to understand this, that the president of the United States runs the executive branch, including the Justice Department, including the FBI. And if you don't like the president's policy decisions, too bad.
Go run for Congress.
If you do not...
Follow the president's policy directives and lawful orders.
You are obstructing justice.
You are in the way.
Who the hell did these career bureaucrats in the Southern District of New York, they think it's the Sovereign District of New York, who do they think they are?
steve bannon
I've said for a long time you clean up that rat's nest, but I want to go back.
Ideas have consequences.
Not a better time to talk about this than in President's Day in the opening of the show.
Folks, we try to give you the nomenclature, the ideas, and then you'll see how it rolls through and manifests itself in real life.
And this is going to be a clash of the titans on this theory.
The theory of a unified executive.
And now we're getting down to it.
Because that's where we're going to the Supreme Court.
Walk me back through.
You're saying the Constitution...
And we've had this fight before with Cheney, but that was not this fight.
This fight's quite different, I think.
The unified theory of the executive by the Constitution, Article 2, he's chief executive officer of the United States government.
He's commander in chief of the Uniform Military Services, and he's the chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer of the U.S. government.
And that is unified in a thing called the office of the president that is held by a guy called the president of these United States.
Is that correct, Mike?
mike davis
Yeah, it's only a theory to the leftist who don't like the fact that the president of the United States has the executive power under Article 12.
Two of the Constitution.
unidentified
Hold it.
steve bannon
Hold it.
Hold it, bro.
Hold it.
Stop.
Hold it.
Hang on.
Hang on.
It's not a theory just with leftists.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but since Watergate, this is the key point of what you've got before Watergate and after Watergate.
President Reagan, Bush 41, Bush 43, they all played Trump in 45, and it was the issue that we should have punched at the time.
Has it not since Watergate?
And the whole purpose of Watergate was to hive off the Justice Department hardwired into these House committees and with career prosecutors and main justice and have an independent left wing radical legal group that ran the deal.
And Republicans, including the great Ronald Reagan, comply with this.
Did it not, sir?
So it's not a theory just of leftists.
We've essentially this is my point about controlled opposition.
When I say we got in this situation after Republican, Republican, people rang doorbells, gave money.
You had all these Republican administrations.
We essentially kowtow to it.
Did we not implicitly agree with it, Mike Davis?
mike davis
I never did, but a lot of the cowards in the Fed side crowd did.
And we're seeing those cowards, they're finally speaking up.
They didn't speak up during four years of unprecedented republic-ending lawfare against President Trump, his top aide, Steve Bannon, you, and Peter Devaro, who went to prison, his supporters on January 6th who were persecuted, parents who were targeted by the Biden FBI. Christians who were thrown in prison by the Biden Justice Department.
The Fed Soc cucks didn't say a word about this for four years.
But all of a sudden, they're traumatized because some interim career U.S. attorney in the Southern District of New York doesn't understand she works for the Deputy Attorney General, who works for the Attorney General, who works for the President of the United States, who was elected by the American people.
These Fed Soc types.
are the string orchestra on the Titanic.
They want to look majestic while the ship is going down.
And I'll tell you this, the Article III project wing of the Republican Party are not going to be the string orchestra.
We're not going to look majestic.
We're going to be throwing people off the lifeboats.
steve bannon
Okay, hang on.
This is such a good show today.
We're getting down to it, baby.
Give me a minute.
I'm going to hold you through the break, Davis, because we haven't even got to the Supreme Court.
The Federal Society has done so much good, right?
It helped with the judges.
It identified on the second tier of judges that we put out after I took over the campaign.
Dom again and guys said, hey, to convince conservatives and standard stock Republicans, we've got to put out a second list.
That second list had guys like Gorsuch on it, etc.
The Federal Society has done such amazing work.
Why now is this kind of a range war between what you call FedSoc and the Article III rebels, sir?
mike davis
Well, look at the judges.
Look at the judges right now who are, you know, you have a Trump-appointed FedSoc judge on the D.C. district court.
Who pretends that the president of the United States does not have the power to recall USAID foreign service officers within 30 days because this FedSoc judge on the D.C. Circuit thinks that that's going to be inconvenient for these foreign service officers.
So somehow the president...
Does not have that power.
And this judge is going to issue a temporary restraining order on President Trump because Judge Carl Nichols doesn't like the fact that President Trump is going to bring these USAID workers home within 30 days.
That is unacceptable.
These are D.C. cowards.
steve bannon
Hang on one second.
Yeah.
Hang on.
Hang on one second.
Mike Davis.
Natalie on Zuckerberg.
We got Poso and Harnwell on Ukraine exploding there.
Multiple negotiations going on.
And a big controversy about the Catholic Church and the invasion of our nation.
All next in the war room.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon
Uh, the, um, we're track in conversation with Todd Benzman, Breaking news.
Bensman, we're going to try to get him on.
I think he's traveling.
So if I can't get him by phone this afternoon.
Mexican Senate.
This is just a Mexican Senate commission has approved the entry of members of the U.S. Army's 7th Special Forces Group airborne into the country starting this week.
So we will find out more about that as Todd is all over this.
Commencing of the kinetic war against the cartels, which is a kinetic war we should be fighting, not associated with anything else.
And we'll get to that a little bit later, too, Poso, and then we're going to be up at the top of the hour.
So, folks, the reason we started today with this is that we give you signal, not noise.
I cannot emphasize enough the importance of what is going to transpire over the next couple of days regarding this.
This situation.
The unified theory of the executive, as we've told you now for months and months and months, over a year to walk you through the construct of it, is about to play out in a live fire exercise to see where it comes down.
Mike Davis, tell me about this.
Tell me about who the guy is, what the controversy is, and you've said from the beginning, hey, these first-line federal judges, and I might add for full disclosure, Carl Nichols...
Is the one that sent me to prison on a misdemeanor for four months, right?
A Trump-sponsored judge who's been a beauty, as Julie Kelly can tell you, probably one of the weakest and worst over there.
Talk to me about what's going on.
Why is this controversy about the IG, and why did Trump...
And his crack legal team picked this as the one to expedite and get put on the emergency docket.
And how tough are it even to get something heard, sir?
mike davis
Let's talk about Hampton Yeats Dellinger.
He is Biden's pick to be special counsel in the U.S. Office of Special Counsel.
And he is a politician.
He ran for lieutenant governor.
of North Carolina.
He was the Biden Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Policy, so he helped pick and confirm Biden's radical judges.
His father, Walter Dellinger, was Clinton's Solicitor General of the United States.
This guy is a pure political operative, and he got confirmed on a near party-line vote.
To run this office that's supposed to be this nonpolitical office.
They handle the Hatch Act and personnel.
Basically, they handle the executive branch personnel decisions related to politics, whether it's the Hatch Act or retaliatory firings or whatever, right?
This guy is on a five-year term, but he reports to the President of the United States just like every other official.
And of course, why would President Trump want this Democrat operative from the Biden administration, this former Democrat lieutenant gubernatorial candidate, North Carolina, to be his special counsel?
He wouldn't.
Anyone with a brain would not want that.
So President Trump correctly fired this guy.
And you have a D.C. judge who has told President Trump that he can't...
Not only can he not fire this guy, this judge purported to reinstate Dellinger into his shop, right?
And so, of course, the Trump Justice Department sought an appeal in the D.C. Circuit saying, hey, you can't do this.
This violates Article II of the Constitution.
You can't force— An employee who's fired back onto the President of the United States.
If this Dellinger thinks he was improperly fired, there's other recourse.
He can seek monetary damages, for example.
But here's the quote from the Trump Justice Department's emergency motion to the Supreme Court yesterday.
Quotes, this court should not allow lower courts to seize executive power.
By dictating to the president how long he must continue employing an agency head against his will.
And that is exactly right.
This is a direct assault on the presidency.
This is a direct assault on Article 2 of the Constitution.
This is judicial sabotage by these activist judges who think they are the resistance after the American people elected President Trump in a landslide and the American people elected a Senate majority and the American people elected a House Republican majority.
You have these activist judges who think it's their job to take off their judicial robes and climb into the political arena and throw political punches.
And I will tell these politicians.
Politicians in robes, actually without robes now in the political arena, that when you throw political punches, expect to get political punches back from the Article 3 project.
steve bannon
Talk to me, so this is, the Trump administration has asked to get this on the emergency docket.
Tell people, what's the emergency docket?
How tough is it to get on it or to get picked up by it?
And what's the politics of that?
mike davis
So how it works in the federal system, you bring litigation to the district courts.
The district court resolves the matter.
It goes up to the Court of Appeals.
They take briefs and motions and hear oral arguments.
They resolve the matter.
This oftentimes takes years.
And then the Supreme Court has discretionary review.
They don't have to take...
Cases, they take less than 1% of federal appeals on their discretionary docket for merits decisions.
But the emergency docket is different.
The emergency docket is used when the lower courts are doing something, they are issuing temporary restraining orders or preliminary injunctions that are clearly unconstitutional, that need immediate action.
By the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court also uses the emergency docket for all death penalty cases around the country.
There are other ways they use the emergency docket.
The emergency docket is crucial here, and the justices must step up and use the emergency docket because we can't wait weeks, months, or years for the president to be able to use his Article II power to fire.
Executive branch officials that he doesn't want working for him.
To recall foreign service officers serving overseas that he doesn't want serving overseas.
To have his treasury secretary look at treasury payments to root out waste, fraud, and abuse.
These are critical core Article II powers of the president.
He has not only the constitutional He has the constitutional duty to make sure, to take care that our laws are faithfully executed.
And if he thinks that we are spending money from the Treasury that's being fraudulently spent, that's being wasted on waste, fraud, and abuse, the president has a constitutional duty under Article 2 to look.
At those payments.
And we have these activist judges telling the President of the United States he can't look at Treasury payments.
This is why the Supreme Court has to step up immediately.
These people who are fired, they have redressed.
They can get monetary payments if they were wrong.
The President of the United States is losing his Article II power every second these TROs are in place.
steve bannon
Exactly.
The TRs are shutting them down across the nation.
What is the probability?
Because you know how Roberts is.
What's the probability he doesn't want to get involved here?
Will it be a fight behind the scenes in the Supreme Court?
Because there will be some guys like Roberts that say, I want to stay out of this fight.
Or am I wrong?
Is this something that you believe they're going to have to get involved in and they know that?
Did they know that they're going to have to get involved?
Or is Roberts behind the scenes going to go, I want to stay away from this, just like he stayed away from the 2020 election, sir?
mike davis
Well, there are a lot of D.C. judges who have vested interest in what happens in D.C. For example, there is a federal judge right now whose spouse is getting a lot of federal funding from USAID. That federal judge probably has a conflict of interest.
And so I would think that that federal judge would not want to be on one of these cases involving USAID because I'm going to expose that judge's ass for this corruption.
But I would say this about the Supreme Court.
If they do not...
Protect Article II powers of the President of the United States.
This is going to be very damaging to the presidency long term.
What President Trump is doing here, he's not stealing Congress's legislative powers.
He's not stealing the federal judiciary's judicial powers.
He is exercising core executive branch powers.
For example, looking at waste, fraud, and abuse in Treasury payments, bringing home Foreign Service officers in 30 days.
It is firing an executive branch official who he doesn't want working for him.
These are core...
steve bannon
Okay, what about impounding...
What about saying that, hey...
I'm going to pound the money.
I don't think the program's working or it's off track or it's behind or it's been changed.
I'm going to pound the Green News scam to $300 billion and I'm going to reprogram it for the wall, sir.
mike davis
Well, let me just say this about impoundment.
There's a lot of agreement and disagreement on impoundment, depending on what side of the aisle you are.
And I would say this to the Supreme Court about impoundments.
If the president of the United States, for example, knows that Congress has mistakenly appropriated money to the U.N. and Gaza, and that money is going to fund Hamas terrorists, does the president of the United States have the power does the president of the United States have the power as the chief executive officer and the commander in chief to stop Hamas?
That appropriated money to Hamas.
And the answer is hell yes.
And if you don't think otherwise, you are creating a very dangerous situation.
The president has the power under article to take care that our laws are faithfully executed.
He is the commander in chief.
Giving money from Congress to the UN as a front group in Gaza to Hamas is not only would it be, it would be actually, the president would be derelict in his What's the call to action?
steve bannon
Or is there one?
Do you want people just thinking this through?
Will we be back to them?
Or is there a call to action today?
Because, folks, we told you the courts is where they've always depended upon the Justice Department, these corrupt prosecutors, main justice, and the courts.
And this is where the main line of battle is going to be because we've got so many issues of impoundment and rescission that are going to flow from this.
What's the call to action today, Mike Davis?
mike davis
I think the call to action is for people to continue to use the megaphone.
Use X, use Getter, use Truth.
Get out there with opinion pieces.
Here's what you need with the Supreme Court, and this is unfortunate, but what you need with our weaklings on the Supreme Court is you need two things.
You need the law to be right.
And you need the politics to be right.
We saw this with presidential immunity.
We got John Sauer to make the beautiful presidential immunity legal arguments.
He's going to be President Trump's Solicitor General now.
John Sauer did a masterful job, but that's not enough.
Not only do you have to have the law rights with these weaklings on the Supreme Court, you need to have the politics right.
And that's why we did the media blitz at the Article 3 project.
4,500 media hits, constant social media, constant opinion.
We had to change the politics so these judges could easily follow the law.
steve bannon
We're going to do it again.
We've got a lot to get to the posse, so this is part of also Force Multiplier on Wednesday.
Mike Davis, where do people go?
Article 3, you've got the app.
Your article, Grace and Mo are pushing out the article.
Where do people go to get you on social media and elsewhere, sir?
mike davis
Article3project.org.
You can follow us on social media.
You can donate.
The most important thing you can do is take action.
Our last one we know how to get confirmed is cash.
unidentified
Cash, cash.
mike davis
We think we're going to get him confirmed next Thursday, so light up both of your home state senators.
Yeah.
steve bannon
Okay, brother.
Appreciate you.
mike davis
Thank you, sir.
steve bannon
Thanks.
Okay, I'll break that down for you.
The law right is Mike Davis' responsibility.
The politics right is your responsibility.
We've got to create a firestorm.
You've got to get their attention is what he's saying.
Short break.
Break back in a moment.
unidentified
Okay, ideas have consequences.
steve bannon
This is...
You guys, more than anybody, know this.
One big idea is modern monetary theory.
This morning, I was going to do the whole first hour just on the budget cuts and the phoniness of what we're seeing and all that.
And of course...
You've got to be called to the ramparts because we've got action, action, action in the courts.
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Trying to get Philip actually for the force multiplier, at least getting in by video.
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This is one of the reasons we have such a great partnership.
There's a bunch of things happening about gold, about gold being delivered late at the City of London, Bank of England, about gold shipping back here, about the audit of gold.
I'm going to get Philip Patrick, I think, tonight and go through all of that to answer all your questions.
A lot going on.
Also, I want to go back.
Make sure you write this down.
The law has to be right and the politics have to be right.
Now, the law being right, we have nothing to do with.
You're not lawyers, most of you, thank God.
And particularly not constitutional lawyers, but we talked to the best and the smartest.
I want to go back.
Mike referenced back to immunity, which eventually was nine to nothing and melted down the left.
And we started with a long shot.
Remember, that was dismissed for the first couple of months.
It was on MSNBC. They dismissed it.
It's a crackpot theory.
It's ridiculous.
The court won't even take it up.
These guys are screwballs.
They're trying to find something for Trump.
When he says get the politics right, articles, And this is what being a force multiplier is on social media and among your own circle.
Forcing the issue.
Put it up so they can't look away from it.
That's the exact same thing that has to happen here.
Because the court's going to be, and particularly the Supreme Court, and I've said from the beginning, we're going to have to make some decisions here on the unified theory of the executive.
So, they're saying it's a constitutional crisis.
My point is, it's not a constitutional crisis.
You just got to set some things right.
They're, oh, it's a constitutional crisis for all these things.
No, it's quite well thought through, but it's got to be seen through to its logical conclusion.
How do we do that?
We get it adjudicated.
Remember in 2020, folks, the agony you felt that we couldn't get a rightful hearing?
unidentified
Well...
steve bannon
This is the same.
Let's start with these articles.
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So, Natalie Winters, a firestorm over the...
Tell me about Zuckerberg and your exposure to Zuckerberg and his counter-efforts to cover his tracks, ma'am.
unidentified
Well, look, a snake can shed its skin, and it's still a snake.
natalie winters
So let this story be, frankly, a testament to, I think, the ascendant MAGA movement.
They tried the first time, what, to sabotage and sort of subversively infiltrate our movement.
Now they know they have to be supplicants and try to pretend to be MAGA. Mark Zuckerberg, probably the greatest defender in all that.
People may recall last week we talked about how the New York Times came after a Twitter thread that I did showing how Mark Zuckerberg had been funneling money to groups that are tied to all.
Well, after I broke that story, that thread, the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative actually went back to their website, which used to list over 5,000 grants that they've doled out to overwhelmingly far-left organizations.
But that's besides the point, at least for this second.
But what's so interesting is that after I put that thread out, they actually reversed their website, and now they only list 680 grants, saying that they're only doing post-2024 grants.
Conveniently, everything they did to rig the 2020 election is now gone.
But I also want to push back on this idea that Mark Zuckerberg could have never funded a group that's tied to ongoing and active Trump resistance, because I actually, donor-advised funds aside, the Silicon Valley Community Foundation aside.
Forward U.S., which was founded by Mark Zuckerberg in 2013. In addition to the Chan Zuckerberg initiative, I've actually identified over a dozen organizations that have been funded by them that are actively involved in some form of resistance against President Trump, whether that be lawsuits, lobbying, protests, mass demonstration, phone banking, phone calls, you name it.
Just to give you some examples, one of the groups called CASA is actively suing President Trump over his birthright citizenship executive order.
They also maintain a hotline where people can dox.
Ice raids and ICE agents.
Make the Road New York has a whole deportation defense manual.
They instruct illegal aliens how to avoid deportation, and they're suing President Trump over his deportation agenda.
Vote Vets Action has received money from Zuckerberg.
They actively oppose the Hegseth confirmation.
They're having all their deranged followers pile in with lawsuits, petitions, you name it.
You have the Center for American Progress, the sort of hotbed of Obama administration alums that are putting out And my
favorite, Common Justice, a far-left group, is actively tweeting as we speak about How they're going to resist Trump and nothing will make them back down.
So, Mark Zuckerberg, I know you're so focused on criminal justice.
Yes, go ahead.
steve bannon
Yeah, hang on, hang on, hang on.
I want to hold you through the break.
We're going to get to Ukraine.
We're going to get to the Catholic Church in McCarrick.
This demon.
Huge expose on that.
Liz Jor is going to join us.
Ben Harnwell.
We got Poso.
But I've got to hold over our White House correspondent.
This is a massive story because it tells you exactly how the infiltration is going to work.
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