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WarRoom Battleground EP 704: Trump Seizes Control Of The Kennedy Center
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unidentified
Because I want to make sure it runs properly.
donald j trump
We don't need woke at the Kennedy Center.
We don't need...
Some of the shows were terrible.
They were a disgrace that they were even put on.
unidentified
So I'll be there until such time as it gets to be running right.
Have you seen any shows there?
How do you know they're terrible?
donald j trump
I didn't go.
No, I got reports they were so bad I didn't want to...
I didn't want to go.
There was nothing I wanted to see.
Thank you very much, everybody.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome.
Monday, 10 February, Year of the Lord, 2025. I cut out a traditional open because we've got to get to it.
I've got Shali Kumar who's going to join us here shortly to talk about Modi, my favorite, the greatest nationalist in the world, right?
And a guy that tremendously admires President Trump and they work together as a team.
Howdy, Modi.
I think it was down in Houston a couple of years ago, biggest event.
President Trump had been to, except when he went to India.
Massive.
The love for President Trump over there.
So the huge meeting this week, we're going to cover it kind of wall-to-wall because just the nation of India, the people are just absolutely fantastic.
Modi's an example for everybody throughout the world.
Also, Forrest Zou's going to be here.
News coming out of the Chinese Communist Party in Beijing, the Financial Times, trade war.
They're coming out with retaliatory terrorists, but...
They got a little bad news and it's becoming a reality.
One of the reasons their soft economy is an implosion, a demographic implosion among the Chinese people.
But I want to start with Roger Kimball.
Roger, in a minute I'm going to have – there's two things I want to go through.
One, you are the author on the conservative side of taking – I think it's Gramsci's.
The long march through the institutions.
And you laid out in this magnificent book how the left went through the institutions of our country.
We're seeing it today, and I think people are shocked.
Trump's doing a forced march through the institutions with Doge, Elon Musk, and himself.
And also with Russ Vogt and the other team.
First off, let's go to the thesis of your book.
What was Gramsci talking about?
What was the long march through the institutions originally that got us in this shape?
And then I want you to comment and make observations on what do you think about Doge, Elon Musk, and President Trump's effort?
unidentified
Right.
So the long march, and you're right, Antonio Gramsci popularized that phrase.
The long march was poached upon Mao Zedong's phrase, the long march.
But the idea was that if you really want to get the revolution going, what you need to do is occupy the commanding heights of the culture.
So this long march through the institutions that people like Herbert Marcuse, the Frankfurt School Marxist, and others popularized was the idea that if we're going to To foment revolution in America,
what we need to do is, first of all, take over the cultural institutions, the educational institutions, the churches, the whole potpourri of cultural institutions like museums, like the Kennedy Center, for example.
And once we occupy those, then we have control of the young people.
And we can do with them as we will.
And of course, the educational institutions were perhaps the most potent form of sabotage of our culture.
So it's very important that in this forced march, as you put it, we don't neglect the high schools, even the primary schools, and the university systems, because that is the crucible.
Whereby these horrible ideas are allowed to germinate and take over our society.
Now, I have to say, I think low.
But I did not think low enough, as it turns out.
What has been going on in this country, as we've discovered over the last, well, the last three weeks, today is the third week anniversary of Trump's inauguration.
Things are always worse than you think, as they say.
And I mean, I knew about, you know, that there was corruption and abuse, but what has been uncovered at USAID, for example, the Treasury Department, it's absolutely breathtaking.
And this is just the proverbial...
I mean, USAID, why did they spend $14 million handing out cash payments to illegal migrants at our southern border?
Why did they spend $15 million sending condoms to the Taliban?
I mean, it sounds almost ridiculous.
Why did they spend $7 million to fund a series of Why did the Treasury Department have all these Social Security numbers that were not deduplicated?
What that means is that you could have hundreds, thousands of people with the same Social Security number.
Now, why would you want that?
Well, because you'd hand them out to favored people, for example, illegal migrants, and then they would be able to cross the border, get various privileges in this country, by the way, which our citizens don't get.
The Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, pointed out that what these illegal migrants are getting...
Far exceeds what is available to our own citizens.
So I expect this process to be rapid and regime-changing.
By regime-changing, I mean the woke regime of the administrative state.
I think it's all over for these guys.
And the little twitterings of This is not going anywhere.
Basically, I believe what Trump is probably going to do is a variation on what Andrew Jackson is said to have done in his dispute with Chief Justice Marshall back in, I think it was 1834. Roger.
steve bannon
Roger, Roger, hang on one second.
I've got to continue this, and we've got to go in depth.
I'm going to go now to the White House.
donald j trump
You know Doug, everybody, I think?
He was in charge of the fake impeachment hearings, remember?
That I won, very conclusively.
Fake charges by the radical left Democrats.
unidentified
Okay.
will scharf
Next, sir, the Federal Executive Institute is a program that was set up during the Johnson administration to train senior-level government bureaucrats.
As you've identified repeatedly in the last few years, the senior levels of our federal government are not adequately serving as stewards of taxpayer dollars, so we're recommending zeroing out that program effectively.
donald j trump
We're actually getting rid of a few programs that are...
Just a waste.
Just really a waste.
will scharf
Thank you, sir.
Next we have an executive order relating to the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.
As you've repeatedly identified, the way that this act has been enforced over the years has been devastating to American business opportunities and business competitiveness abroad.
We are essentially ordering the Department of Justice to use its prosecutorial discretion in a way to ameliorate the negative effects of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, to allow Americans to do business abroad, and to allow our foreign partners to do business with Americans without fearing unjust prosecution.
donald j trump
And for those of you that know this, it turned out to be, it sounds good on paper, but in practicality, it's a disaster.
It means that if an American goes over to a foreign country and starts doing business over there, legally, legitimately, or otherwise, it's almost a guaranteed investigation, indictment, and nobody wants to do business with the Americans because of it.
Nobody wants to do business.
They say, look...
We can deal with China.
They can do whatever they want.
We can deal with Russia.
We can deal with anybody.
And we have a normal life.
You deal with America, the FBI gets over there.
They don't investigate death and murders on the street in New York and Los Angeles.
They go over and investigate a business guy trying to do business.
So it made it very, very hard.
From a practical standpoint, to make deals.
They want to deal with the Americans, but they don't want to be under investigation every time they speak to an American, every time an American makes a phone call to somebody in a different country.
It's a disaster for this country.
And I guess it was a Jimmy Carter concept.
It sounds so good, but it's so bad.
It hurts the country.
And many, many deals are unable to be made because of it.
Nobody wants to do business because they don't want to feel like every time they pick up a phone, they're going to jail.
So we'll sign this.
And it takes courage to sign it because you only get bad publicity when you sign it.
It sounds so nice.
The title is so lovely.
But it's an absolutely horror show for America.
So we're signing it because that's what we have to do to make it good.
unidentified
Okay, thank you.
donald j trump
It's an important one.
It's going to mean a lot more business for America.
Okay.
will scharf
Thank you, sir.
Next, this is an executive order relating to the use of paper straws.
As you've consistently identified, nobody really likes paper straws.
donald j trump
Number one trending.
Can you believe it?
A paper show is number one trending for three days or something.
will scharf
The environmental impact of plastic straws versus paper straws is entirely unclear.
This has cost both the government and private industry an absolute ton of money and left consumers all over the country wildly dissatisfied with their straws.
So we're asking aspects of the federal government, federal departments and agencies to look at their existing procurement processes.
And we're asking your domestic policy council to look holistically at this issue to address it.
And it really is something that affects ordinary Americans in their everyday lives.
donald j trump
We're going back to plastics.
These things don't work.
I've had them many times.
And on occasion, they break.
They explode.
If something's hot, they don't last very long, like a matter of minutes, sometimes a matter of seconds.
It's a ridiculous situation.
We're going back to plastic straws.
I think it's okay.
And I don't think that plastic's going to affect a shark very much as they're eating, as they're munching their way through the ocean.
Okay.
will scharf
Thank you, sir.
Next, we have a full and unconditional pardon for former Governor Rod Blagojevich of the state of Illinois.
donald j trump
Good.
It's my honor to do it.
I've watched him.
He was set up by a lot of bad people, some of the same people that I had to deal with.
He wasn't quite as successful, but he had somebody that saw what was going on.
I didn't know him other than I believe he was on The Apprentice for a little while.
He was just a very nice person.
He had a fantastic wife.
She fought like hell to get him out.
He was given a sentence of like 18 years.
And it was sort of a terrible injustice.
They just were after him.
They go after a lot of people.
These are bad people on the other side.
So I think he's just a very fine person.
And this shouldn't have happened, and it shouldn't have happened to him.
And let him have a normal life and let him go out and do what he has to do.
So I'm signing this as a full pardon.
Rod Blagojevic.
unidentified
Mr. President, are you considering him for ambassador to Serbia?
No, but I would.
donald j trump
He's now cleaner than anybody in this room.
You got a pardon.
He's cleaner than anybody in the room.
Okay.
will scharf
Thank you, sir.
Next, in 2018, you imposed ad valorem duties tariffs on imports of steel at a 25% rate.
Since that time, a large number of exclusions and exceptions to that tariff rule have been implemented.
Because of the damage to the United States steel industry that those exceptions and exclusions have imposed, this order would reimpose that 25% It's a big deal.
donald j trump
It's a big deal.
This is the beginning of making America rich again.
Mr. Secretary, do you have anything to say?
No.
As you know, Howard is Secretary of Commerce doing a fantastic job.
And what do you have to say about it?
unidentified
So when you imposed the tariffs the first time, you added 120,000 jobs.
And since that time...
It's been picked away and nicked away and excluded away.
And we've lost 107,000 jobs.
And remember, these aren't just general jobs.
These are steel workers in America.
And now you're going to bring them back.
You're going to bring those 120,000 jobs back to America.
You are the president who's standing up for the American steel worker.
And I am just tremendously impressed and delighted to stand next to you.
donald j trump
So let me just...
Make a statement.
And essentially, this is another way of saying we're doing a 25% tariff on steel and aluminum.
So the failed American trade policies have led our once incredible United States steel and aluminum industries.
Once incredible.
That's once incredible.
Not now.
But they're not bad.
I saved them because of my first term.
Totally saved them.
If I didn't do what I did, I put massive tariffs, not the highest level, but pretty, pretty massive tariffs.
We got we took in a lot of money and we took in a lot of jobs.
But we were being pummeled by both friend and foe alike.
Our nation requires steel and aluminum to be made in America, not in foreign lands.
We need to create in order to protect our country's future resurgence of U.S. manufacturing and production.
the likes of which has not been seen for many decades.
It's time for our great industries to come back to America.
I want to back to America.
This is the first of many.
And you know what I mean by that.
We're going to be doing others on other subjects, topics.
Protecting our steel and aluminum industries is a must.
And today I'm simplifying our tariffs on steel and aluminum so that everyone can understand exactly what it means.
It's 25 percent without exceptions or exemptions.
And that's all countries, no matter where it comes from.
All countries.
If made in the United States, however, United States of America, there is no tariff.
It's zero.
So if it's made in the United States, there is no tariff.
All you have to do is make it in the United States.
We don't need it from another country.
As an example, Canada.
If we make it in the United States, we don't need it to be made in Canada.
We'll have the jobs.
That's why Canada should be our 51st state.
We'll bring back industries and we'll bring back our jobs and we'll make America industry great again.
So essentially, we're putting on a 25 percent tariff without exception on all aluminum and all steel.
And it's going to mean a lot of businesses are going to be opening in the United States.
Now, we're going to be meeting over the next four week period, maybe on a weekly basis, and maybe we'll do a couple of them at different times and maybe together.
But we'll be talking about other subjects like cars.
We'll be talking about drugs and pharmaceuticals.
We'll be discussing chips.
And we're going to be doing some other things in addition to that, all which will bring in a lot of jobs into our country.
Cars is going to be a very big one and a very important one.
And America is going to be stronger than it ever was before.
Okay?
So, are you finished with everything, I think?
will scharf
We have aluminum still.
donald j trump
Okay, let's go.
will scharf
So, with respect to aluminum, similarly to steel, since 2018, a large number of exceptions and exemptions have been added into the law.
This eliminates all of those and also increases the ad valorem tariff rate from 10 to 25 percent.
donald j trump
Mostly, the last part is the most important.
Right, would you say?
Totally.
So, basically, this is aluminum, the same thing.
No exceptions, no nothing.
And it's going to bring our aluminum business back and may go higher.
I mean, frankly, it may go higher.
And we're going to also be talking about receptor.
We're going to be talking about things over the next three weeks that I think will be amazing for our country, amazing for our jobs, and will bring us to a new level of prosperity.
And I think, frankly, our allies and our enemies all over the world expected this.
They really expected it for years.
They really expected it sometime during the Biden administration, but they didn't do anything.
As you know, I put tariffs on China.
We took in hundreds of billions of dollars with those tariffs, and Biden wasn't able to get them out.
He tried to, but it was too much money.
He couldn't do it.
And we're going to be doing a very...
Concise and, you know, very, very, it's going to be good.
And I don't think if done properly, and we're going to try and do that, we don't want it to hurt other countries, but they've been taking advantage of us for years and years and years.
And they've charged us terrorists.
Most of them have charged us, almost everyone, I would say almost without exception.
They've charged us and we haven't charged them.
And it's time to be reciprocal.
It's a very...
Very, you'll be hearing that word a lot, reciprocal.
If they charge us, we charge them.
If they're at 25, we're at 25. If they're at 10, we're at 10. And if they're much higher than 25, that's what we are, too.
So that's having to do with everything.
That's not just steel and aluminum.
But we'll be discussing that over the next couple of weeks.
But we will be looking at chips, and we will be looking at cars, and we're going to be looking at pharmaceuticals.
There'll be a couple of other things also, in addition.
unidentified
That they do support this move?
donald j trump
I love the steel makers.
unidentified
That's good.
donald j trump
Because they want to save their businesses.
U.S. Steel will now be a very valuable company.
Anybody that makes steel is going to be great.
Anybody that works in big steel is going to be very happy.
unidentified
What do you say to consumers who are worried about prices, sir?
donald j trump
Oh, I don't think you're going to...
No, you're going to ultimately have a price reduction because they're going to make their steel here.
There's not going to be any tariff.
These foreign companies will move to the United States, will make their steel and aluminum in the United States.
Ultimately, it'll be cheaper.
But we'll also have jobs.
Many, many more jobs.
unidentified
Sir, what are you looking at in terms of tariffs on cars and chips?
donald j trump
Well, we're looking at numbers, and we'll be coming up with a number, but we make some of the finest cars in the world, and some companies prohibit us from selling those cars in their countries.
But they sell us cars, they send cars to us, and we don't do that.
We charge nothing or 2.5%, and they'll be charging 100%.
They'll be charging much more than that if you look at some of them.
So I think those days are over.
But we'll be announcing on other things, such as cars.
We got some other things we'll be doing.
But the biggest thing is reciprocal.
We want tariffs to be fair.
If they charge us, we charge them.
We'll be doing reciprocal over the next, I would say, two days, don't you think?
Two days, yeah, maybe.
unidentified
The Australian Prime Minister has said that you are considering an exemption from Australia on steel.
donald j trump
Is that correct?
I just spoke to him, a very fine man, and he has a surplus.
We have a surplus with Australia, one of the few.
And the reason is they buy a lot of airplanes.
They are rather far away and they need lots of airplanes.
And we actually have a surplus.
It's one of the only countries which we do.
And I told him that that's something that we will give great consideration to.
unidentified
And would you consider one for the UK as well?
donald j trump
Well, we have a huge deficit with the UK. Big difference.
You don't have a deficit with Argentina.
unidentified
Is that country also going to be...
donald j trump
We have a...
A little deficit with Argentina.
Almost with every country.
But Australia, because of the airplanes, they buy a lot of airplanes.
There's a little bit of a surplus.
unidentified
Mr. President, if other countries retaliate...
donald j trump
I don't mind.
unidentified
What is your plan for, for example, farmers?
donald j trump
Well, the farmers are going to be helped greatly.
The farmers are going to be helped greatly because...
They're not going to be dumping everything into our country.
This would be a great bill for farmers.
And in terms of retaliation, if they retaliate, it's, as I said, it's reciprocal.
So if they raise it a little bit, then we raise it automatically.
So I don't think it helps for them to retaliate.
But also remember this, they can't really retaliate because we're the piggy bank.
We're the piggy bank.
But if we don't do this, we won't be the piggy bank for long.
We won't be much of a country. - Mr. President, did you see that reports there that Hamas was gonna stop releasing Israeli hostages and what was your reaction? - I think it's terrible.
Look, I looked at the hostages that came in and they're emaciated.
It looked like something out of the 1930s.
It's an absolute disgrace.
And I think they saw the way the world viewed it.
And they're looking for a reason not to send more because they're all...
You take a look at that.
It looks like it was...
It looked like it was a concentration camp, which essentially it was.
It looks like they came out of the Holocaust.
And what a sad thing.
One of them was a young man, good-looking guy, a little bit heavier than perhaps he could have been, and now he looks like he's not even recognizable.
Not even recognizable.
Look...
I can tell you that those people have been badly hurt, both mentally and physically.
I'm talking about the young women that came out also previously.
And I think one of the reasons they're doing this is because they're probably sending the best.
What you see is probably the best because they want to send people that look at least healthy.
And that's not healthy.
These people have been...
Badly hurt.
They've been interviewed by our representatives.
They've been interviewed by Israeli representatives.
And they're really hurting.
They are really hurting mentally and physically.
And I think Hamas is looking at that and saying, well, it's not going to get much better than that because they probably send out their best as a representative.
And they've got more to send out.
And they probably feel that they can't do that because it's not going to make them look...
Very good.
Well, I would say this, and I'm going to let that because that's Israel's decision.
But as far as I'm concerned, if all of the hostages aren't returned by Saturday at 12 o'clock, I think it's an appropriate time.
I would say cancel it and all bets are off and let hell break out.
I'd say they ought to be returned by 12 o'clock on Saturday.
And if they're not returned, all of them, not in drips and drabs, not two and one and three and four and two.
Saturday at 12 o'clock.
And after that, I would say all hell is going to break out.
And I don't think they're going to do it.
I think a lot of them are dead.
I think a lot of the hostages are dead.
I think...
It's a great human tragedy what's happened, how people can be that mean to do.
I mean, the one guy was laughing when a hostage, he thought his family was alive, found out the family was dead, and his captor, so to speak, his captor started laughing because he thought it was so funny.
You know, this is...
This is a different group of people.
No, I would say Saturday at 12, we want them all back.
I'm speaking for myself.
Israel can override it.
But from myself, Saturday at 12 o'clock, and if they're not...
unidentified
If they're not here, all hell is going to break out. - Mr. President, in the interview this weekend, you said that Palestinians would not be guaranteed the right to return to Gaza if the US were to develop it.
donald j trump
What did you mean by that? - We've spoken to a lot of Palestinians They would love to leave Gaza if they could find a place to be.
And I've spoken to various leaders of various countries in the not so distant area from where we're talking about, the Gaza Strip.
And I think they were very positive about providing land.
What we need is land.
And if we could build a nice place for people to live safely, everybody in Gaza would do it.
They've been persecuted.
They've been spit on.
They've been treated like trash.
And they would love to get out of Gaza.
Until now, they never had an alternative.
Now they have an alternative.
And as far as Hamas is concerned, you're seeing the real Hamas now with the hostages.
unidentified
Mr. President, what does it mean?
On Gaza, you're kind of the...
donald j trump
Who are you?
unidentified
The Wall Street Journal, sir.
From where?
Yeah, that's what I thought.
The Jordanian leader is coming in to see you.
Yeah.
Folks in Jordan have expressed opposition to taking in more Gazas, more Palestinians.
How do you want to convince him to do otherwise?
donald j trump
I think he'll take.
I mean, I do think he'll take.
And I think other countries will take also.
They have good hearts.
I think they'll take.
unidentified
But what about the Palestinians who just won't leave?
We've spoken, our team has spoken to many.
donald j trump
They're all going to leave when they have a place that's a better alternative.
When they have a nice place that's safe, they're all going to leave.
It's a hellhole right now.
unidentified
But how are you so sure?
Will the U.S. force them to leave?
donald j trump
You're going to see that they're all going to want to leave.
unidentified
Mr. President, when you say it comes to Saturday and you there's an American hostage who's still being held by a mouse right now.
donald j trump
Look, you know, who knows...
Are they alive?
Are they not alive?
But I saw the condition.
When I saw the condition of the last ones that came out, and the women too, everybody.
The one woman had her hand blown off.
Because she was trying to stop a bullet being fired at her, okay?
What kind of a situation is that?
You saw her.
I just think it's time to either release everybody.
They're not going to be alive right now, based on what I saw over the last two days.
They're not going to be alive for long.
Saturday at 12 o'clock, and after that, it's...
It's going to be a different ballgame.
unidentified
Mr. President, when you say all hell is going to break loose, are you speaking about retaliation?
donald j trump
You'll find out.
And they'll find out, too.
Hamas will find out what I mean.
Mr. President, they're going to find out what I mean.
These are sick people.
And they'll find out what I mean Saturday at 12 and 12. But no involvement.
unidentified
How are the Palestinians from the West Bank?
Are they going to be relocated to?
donald j trump
Well, right now, no.
Right now, they're there.
And I assume they want to remain there.
It's different.
They're there.
It's never been like what we're talking about with the Gaza Strip.
No, no, no plans.
unidentified
Sir President, regarding the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, Democrats, including Elizabeth Warren, have said that by freezing it, it's giving big banks and giant corporations the green light.
donald j trump
Pocahontas.
Pocahontas, the faker.
You know, that was set up to destroy people.
She used that as her little...
Personal agency to go around and destroy people.
And she's a fake.
Just like she said she was an Indian and she wasn't an Indian.
You have more Indian blood in you than she has.
She went to college based on the fact that she was an Indian.
She got jobs based on the fact that she was an Indian.
She's a fake.
That was set up to destroy some very good people.
And it worked.
I mean, it worked a lot of...
A lot of great people.
I'll tell you, before I ever heard the term, people would come up to me in the Midwest and areas that say, sir, I'm being destroyed by them.
They use that to destroy people.
She's a nasty woman.
She's a really nasty woman, despite her phony beer commercial.
No, we did the right thing.
That was a very important thing to get rid of.
And it was also a waste.
I mean, number one, it was a bad group of people running it, but it was also a waste.
If you looked at when she really ran it, wow, that was a vicious group of people.
They really destroyed a lot of people.
unidentified
And you confirm it's your goal is to have it totally eliminated?
donald j trump
I would say, yeah, because we're trying to get rid of waste, fraud and abuse.
unidentified
What's next?
donald j trump
And didn't I hear that somebody made like $38 million or something running a little agency?
What was her name?
What was her name?
And what did she do?
And what was that all about, all the money that she made?
Does anybody know?
Yeah, Brian, go ahead.
unidentified
Good to see you.
The latest CBS poll has your approval ratings at an all-time high, despite all these controversial subjects and executive orders that you're doing.
Want to get your thoughts on that, how you've really connected to mainstream America.
donald j trump
Yeah, I have high approval ratings because I'm using common sense, whether it's getting men out of women's sports.
I mean, have you seen what goes on with the boxers and with the weightlifters and with the swimmers and everything that's so ridiculous?
And I think it's a 90 percent issue.
And, you know, the amazing thing, the Democrats are still fighting for it.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
I think we should go to Congress also, have that cemented and, you know, make it indelible.
But we, you know, it's to me, it's all common sense.
Who wants an open border where?
Where prisons are dumped into our country, where prisoners are led into our country, many of whom are murderers, many of whom murdered far more than one person, and they're now roaming our country.
Who wants that?
I mean, it's terrible.
Steve, I'd like you to say a couple of words about it.
stephen miller
Yes, well, as you know, Mr. President, since you issued your day one executive orders, Border crossings are down approximately 95%.
You talk to agents on the line, in their entire careers, they've never seen crossing days as low as what they're experiencing right now.
The cartels, in fact, are enormously frustrated because they've never seen a Clampton like this before in American history.
There are people who were working at Border Patrol back when it was INS in the 80s and 90s.
They've never seen a date like this.
That's because you've mobilized the 10th Mounted Division, the Marines, the entire U.S. military.
They're erecting physical miles of barrier, temporary and ultimately permanent, every single day.
You have all of your border agents pushed to the front line.
They're not doing the humanitarian processing, quote unquote, that Biden was doing.
They're doing law enforcement and national security.
They're interdicting weapons and drugs.
They're interdicting violent, high-threat criminals.
And the U.S. military is repatriating illegal immigrants at a pace and a skill that has never occurred before in American history.
And those who are committing human trafficking and child trafficking are being prosecuted for felony offenses, and they'll be doing a hard time in jail.
There's never been a lockdown like what you have implemented through your orders and vision since you took the oath of office.
unidentified
What's your thoughts on Doge?
Wednesday at 10 a.m., we're having our first subcommittee on the fraud and Medicare.
donald j trump
Yeah, before I discuss that, I just want to...
Add to what Steve said.
And we want people to come into our country, but we want them to come in legally.
They have to go through a process.
And we have to know that they haven't killed nine people.
They haven't killed, like in one case, five people.
And they're out on the loose, and we're all looking for that particular individual.
This was all led in by Biden and the group of stupid people.
Bad people and stupid people.
Some are bad, some are stupid, some are both.
But I'll tell you what, what they've done to this country.
But we're cleaning it up.
And hard to believe I can say it.
It'll be better than ever before.
But we have a lot of bad people we have to get at.
We're searching out for a lot of them.
I think Tom Holman and Christy are doing an unbelievable job, Christy Noam.
They're doing an unbelievable job and taking out massive numbers of people.
And you notice every country is accepting those people back.
Remember, everyone said, oh, they'll never accept them.
They're all taking them back.
They have to.
They're all taking them back.
Every single country is taking them back.
I don't know if they want them or not.
I don't imagine they do, but they're taking them back.
unidentified
In fact, on Gaza, he talked with Fox News about the billions of dollars we pay for Jordan and Egypt every year.
Would you withhold aid to these countries if they don't agree to take in the Palestinians?
donald j trump
Yeah, maybe.
Sure.
Why not?
You mean if they don't agree?
If they don't agree, I would conceivably withhold aid, yeah.
unidentified
Are you going to talk to Prime Minister Netanyahu about the Saturday deadline?
Sure.
donald j trump
I mean, it's just my deadline, but they may change it.
But I think it's...
I've seen too many people come out.
They look like Holocaust victims from many years ago.
I've never said anything like it.
I didn't think this could happen in this world today.
You know, we think we have a civilized world.
It's not civil.
These are bad people we're dealing with.
So that would be my suggestion.
And you can open it up or not open it up, but that would be mine.
Do you have anything to say about that, your commerce?
But you have a lot to say from the standpoint of your faith and your religion.
Go ahead.
unidentified
So it's amazing that four years of nothing...
And then you come in and you immediately start to move the needle.
You have hostages coming out.
You send Steve Witkoff, who's done an amazing job for you.
You're changing the Middle East.
You're supporting your ally, Israel.
And I, for one, can't be more impressed with the outcomes that you have driven.
And choosing this Saturday to save people's lives or just be done with it seems like just the right choice.
donald j trump
But I think it's time to come up with a date.
What are we going to do?
Keep every week two people, three people?
No, I don't think you can do that anymore.
These are very seriously...
Endangered people.
These are endangered people.
I don't think they're going to last very long.
You know, the people that came out yesterday, they wouldn't last very long.
unidentified
Were you rooting out any U.S. involvement in whatever happens after this deadline?
donald j trump
We'll see what happens.
We'll just see what happens.
unidentified
Will you talk with Zelensky this week, sir?
donald j trump
Yeah, probably.
He wants to make a deal.
Let's see.
We're dealing with him.
I think they both want to make a deal, but we'll have to see.
It's got to be done.
Would have never happened if I were president.
This would never have happened.
Millions of people are dead.
unidentified
What will Zelensky have to give up, if anything?
donald j trump
We'll talk about that later.
unidentified
Your reaction to a judge today continuing a pause on the buyout program for federal workers?
donald j trump
Well, I don't know how you can lose a case like that.
We're talking about people, you know, everybody.
I got elected on making government better.
More efficient and smaller.
And that's what we're doing.
And I think it was a very generous buyout, actually.
Also, if people don't show up to work, we have a right to fire them.
And they have an option.
They can show up to work or not.
If they don't want to show up to work, then let them work.
Because then the next step is, have you worked before?
Have you worked during this time that you're supposed to be working?
You'll find many of those people, in my opinion.
Have had other jobs, even though they're collecting money from the federal government.
Many have had, in my opinion, other jobs.
And if they did, that's a big problem.
unidentified
If the buyouts are blocked in court, will you instead pursue layoffs in federal departments?
donald j trump
I don't know how they can do it.
This is free will.
This is a buyout where people, you know, they were offered a good deal.
Many people have taken that, as you know.
But, you know, many of those people, and we talk about reporting to work, right?
I happen to be a believer that you have to go to work.
I don't think you can work from a home.
I don't know.
It's like there's a whole big, oh, you can work from home.
Nobody's going to work from home.
They're going to be going out.
They're going to play tennis.
They're going to play golf.
They're going to do a lot of things.
They're not working.
It's a rare person that's going to work.
You might work 10 percent of the time, maybe 20 percent.
I don't think you're going to work a lot more than that.
And I think they have an obligation to work.
And they have an obligation not to have a second job when they're supposed to be working for the federal government.
You're going to find that a lot of these people had second jobs instead of working for...
They'll be collecting a federal government check and they'll be working two jobs.
And that's big trouble for them.
unidentified
You've said a lot about South Africa in the last two weeks.
It's hosting the G20 summit this year.
Are you planning to attend this or are you skipping it and telling your cabinet to not?
donald j trump
Well, we'll see what happens.
But the South African situation is very, very dangerous and very bad for a lot of people.
There's tremendously bad things going on, including the confiscation of property, and worse, much worse than that.
You know what I'm talking about.
And we're not making any payment until we find out what's going on in South Africa.
unidentified
Is General Kellogg going to Ukraine this week, sir, soon?
donald j trump
Yeah, he is.
General Kellogg is an excellent guy.
And he's spending time doing various things.
We have numerous people working on numerous different problems.
You know, when I left office, wasn't long ago, a little more than four years ago, we had no wars.
We didn't have problems.
Now we got the whole world is blowing up, but we'll put out the fires.
unidentified
You've been talking to Vladimir Putin.
Are you trying to set up a meeting with him?
donald j trump
Well, I can't tell you what I'm talking about, but we are talking as a group also.
I think he'd like to make a deal, but it takes two to tango.
unidentified
I don't want to talk about it.
donald j trump
No, I don't want to talk about it.
It's not going to help you to know.
But we would like to get a deal done if possible.
Only because, in my case, save lives.
You know, we're much further away.
Remember, we have an ocean separating.
They don't.
Europe should be paying what we're paying.
And Europe has done it more in the form of a loan than with us.
We just give it.
You know, Biden gives it because he's not a smart individual.
Not a very smart individual.
We have people over there today.
Who are making a deal that as we give money, we get minerals and we get oil and we get all sorts of things because why are we doing this?
And all this money, we're in for maybe 350 billion and Europe's in for 100 billion.
And Europe's in really as a form of a loan.
In theory, they get that money back.
In theory, they get interest on their money.
It's a whole different ballgame.
And Biden is the one that started doing this.
Every time Zelensky came here, he walked away with $60 to $100 billion.
I think he's one of the greatest salesmen who have ever lived, by the way.
unidentified
Can you discuss your intentions with the Kennedy Center, which you're now the board sheriff?
donald j trump
So we took over the Kennedy Center.
We didn't like what they were showing and various other things.
And I had a lot of the board members already, as you know, and we have some that will be replaced.
But we have...
I guess a whole new group of people going in.
I have Rick Grinnell who's got some experience in that world.
He's going to be, he's very good.
Going to be handling it on a temporary basis.
I think he'll do a great job, but we're going to get some great professionals.
I'm going to be chairman of it and we're going to make sure that it's good and it's not going to be woke.
There's no more woke in this country.
This woke has cost us Thank you guys.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you, guys.
Thank you.
*BEEP* There you go.
steve bannon
Wow.
Unbelievable.
Days of thunder right there.
One executive order after the other.
Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.
Answered questions on...
Kennedy Center.
President Trump right now is a man in full.
Is that Forrest still up?
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
Let's go to Forrest.
Forrest, real quickly, we only got a couple minutes.
But part of what he talked about, he signed tariffs.
For 25% on steel and aluminum.
But he also alluded to this headline in the Financial Times.
U.S. and China said for trade war, Beijing launches retaliatory tariffs.
They're also coming after companies.
From the CCP's point of view, given where the economy is, how tough is this trade war going to be for us, Zhu?
forrest zhou
Hi.
Thank you, Steve, for having me here.
First of all, happy Chinese New Year.
This is our Chinese New Year.
It's not good for Chinese Communist Party, that's for sure, because the economy is in decline.
And the raising unemployment and the living cost is so high.
So that's why a lot of young people, we saw the number, we saw the report that the marriage rate dropped significantly.
And I don't think this trade war, they will last long for Chinese Communist Party.
Because right now, Chinese Young people cannot afford the marriage.
The Chinese entered into this era that people have no desire or no desire.
They choose not to marry, not to have children, not to have a house, and not to work, because it's so hard to find a job.
The official number from the Chinese official...
For an employee rate is 20%.
But the real number actually is more than 50%.
That tells you how bad the economy is.
So that's why I don't think the Chinese Communist Party will last long with this trade war or with this tariff.
Because with the tariff, the add-on will make it harder for the Chinese people, for the Chinese business.
So they won't last long.
And also I think Mr. Trump's tariff add-on.
Chinese Communist Party is going to be in long term is good for the U.S. people for the lobbying here because they will bring the manufacturing back and also cut the tie with Chinese Communist Party because Chinese Communist Party using their supply chain using their so-called marketing to corrupt to blackmail all the CEOs and companies here in the U.S. They use all the Capitals they gain from the U.S. capital market to corrupt
officials, CEOs in this country.
They also do the propaganda in this country.
So that's why I think this action, the tariff adding on to the Chinese Communist Party, is going to be good for both the Chinese people and the U.S. people.
Because the Chinese people already suffered for 70 years.
Now the young generation cannot even afford house in China.
Let me give you things in perspective.
Imagine you making 100,000 in U.S. dollars, but you have to purchase 3 million to 4 million for 600 square feet apartment in China.
That's how much cost for people.
It's not sustainable.
People are already aware of that.
There is a thing in China about six wallets because in order to afford one apartment, you have to pay from your own pocket, your wife's pocket, your wife's parents and your That sixth pocket has to pull in for the down payment in order for you to purchase the apartment.
So right now, I think this tariff in the long term is good for Chinese people because we want to take down the Chinese Communist Party.
I think to overthrow the Chinese Communist Party, we have to let the...
Cut all the ties.
We talked about this a long time ago.
Decouple economically, technologically with Chinese Communist Party.
That will bring down the Chinese Communist Party.
Eventually, that's good for the Chinese people and the U.S. allowed by Xi.
steve bannon
President Trump was talking.
forrest zhou
Yes.
steve bannon
President Trump has talked about the retaliatory tariffs.
We've got to go.
I'm going to have you back on tomorrow because I want to talk about the demographic explosion that's tied to this.
But an outright trade war starting between Beijing and Washington, D.C., as memorialized in the Financial Times.
Forrest, where do people go to find out more about the new federal state of China, those brave Lao Beijing that stand in opposition to this murderous dictatorship, sir?
forrest zhou
Yes, you can find us on Gather, which is NFSC TV and NFSC Speaks.
You can also find us on the X. Thank you, brother.
steve bannon
See you on tomorrow.
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unidentified
We're going to be a big deal, and it's going to be a big deal.
steve bannon
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unidentified
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steve bannon
Was President Trump just on fire right there?
Is it just so good?
I mean, it's like he riffs on the news, talks about...
Strategy, his thinking, economics.
Get the kids around and watch it.
FDR used to have Fireside, I don't know, the Fireside Radio.
Fireside Chats.
That's what President Trump's got.
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