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Feb. 3, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4240: Tariffs Unleashed On Canada, Mexico, And China
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unidentified
The high-risk, high-reward proposition.
If it works, I would expect this to mark a new era in U.S. foreign policy, one in which a broader set of economic tools are on the table.
Kellyanne Shaw joins us now for more.
Kellyanne, welcome to the program.
I just want to go back to the first term because I think we all familiarized ourselves with Section 232, National Security, 301, Unfair Trade Practices.
This was new over the weekend.
They used the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.
Kellyanne, what do people need to know about the use of that tool and whether it's Yeah, thank you so much for having me back on this morning.
It's certainly an interesting Monday for any company who's operating in the United States, Canada, Mexico, and China where I have supply chains in any one of those economies.
So, AIPA, right, this is the first time that a president has invoked tariffs on the basis of a national emergency.
And AIPA is a national security authority.
It is different than 232 or Section 301, which supported the steel and aluminum tariffs and the China tariffs.
Those had an investigation that made findings about the threat of imports or discrimination or unfair trade practices.
This is about a pure emergency and national security issue.
Which the president has identified as fentanyl and illegal immigration.
So, Kelly, when the national security threat is resolved, what happens next?
Do the tariffs get lifted?
Well, presumably.
And if you look at the three executive orders that the president issued on Saturday, the legal basis for expanding the national emergency is the illicit flow of fentanyl and migration.
So when those issues are addressed, presumably the legal basis for sustaining the tariffs would no longer be there.
So my expectation is that these are tariffs that are targeted towards this national security issue, and that as soon as Canada, Mexico, and China, and the United States are able to agree on a resolution, All right, Kevin, this is really interesting.
Just the idea that maybe there's something that could be negotiated.
Let me just make sure that I'm understanding this correctly from you.
There's something that could be negotiated in the next 24 hours, in the next several days.
Would mean the tariffs would either not be put on or would come back if it were to satisfy President Trump's concerns about what's happening at the border and the protections there that are taking this.
We're calling it a trade war because Canada has already said that they're going to retaliate across the board with...
You know, tariffs on alcohol, coffee, clothing and shoes, furniture, household appliances, whiskeys, fruit from Florida, all of these issues.
You're saying that this is really more of a negotiation to try and say, no, we want more focus on the border, and if you give that to us, these go away?
kevin hassett
This is not what I'm saying.
People need to read the executive order.
President Trump has said this is about the fentanyl crisis, right?
So I don't know how somebody reads the executive order, if you're Canada, and then comes back and says, oh, we're going to start a trade war.
We're saying we're really, really serious about going after fentanyl, and President Trump means it.
And so there's all this fentanyl shipping across the borders.
There, in the past, have been caravans of people parading across our border, carrying drugs and other things.
And the response of our neighbors has not been, hey, we're going to help you stop this problem.
It's go ahead and build a wall.
So imagine, Becky, if I had all this stuff going on in my house next to yours and all this stuff was leaking into your property, and then you say, Kevin, you've got to stop all that crime in your place.
And I'm like, hey, you know what?
Becky, build a wall.
That's disrespectful.
And this is the attitude the president has towards what's going on right now.
He wants them to be respectful of the United States and help solve the problem rather than feed it.
unidentified
What is the chances that this gets resolved today and there's an 11-hour agreement before midnight?
Well, there's always a chance, right?
I mean, this is a negotiation.
The United States is requesting something from all three countries.
And we have a call set up with Prime Minister Trudeau, President Steinbaum today, with the president directly, which I do think is a good sign.
These conversations have progressed to the top.
And what was striking to me on Saturday, following the president's announcement and the issuance of these executive orders, was President Trudeau's press conference in which he said he had not had conversations with the president all week about this specific issue.
So I do think that a call is trending in the right direction.
But whether or not what Canada and Mexico offer the United States is enough will be a decision by the president and the president alone.
I haven't seen these figures myself say that something like only 40 pounds of fentanyl was found.
At the Canadian border versus a much huger position down in the south part of this border.
This is a way to get people to the table to say, we are going to attack this and work with you, and that would call off all of these tariffs that are going to be put in place?
kevin hassett
President Trump will decide what he's going to call off and what he's not, but he wants everybody at the table.
unidentified
There's not a clear set of standards that say if you do X, Y, and Z, this won't happen.
kevin hassett
Well, they clearly haven't done it in the past.
And, you know, the amount of organized crime in the fentanyl space in Canada is also very disturbing.
And so it's not just a measure of, like, 40 pounds here and there.
The fact is the president has set a very clear guideline for people to work with him collaboratively.
These are some of our best trading partners and our best friends to solve this incredible problem that has been spinning out of control, you know, and that they've not really been addressing.
And again, in Edmonton last summer, I walked out of my hotel and they had an ambulance there helping somebody who had OD'd sadly on fentanyl.
And then as I'm walking to my restaurant, two people get in a fight with the cops over drugs.
Right there, just in downtown Edmonton.
And this is just my one day when I'm staying there.
And the fact is that Canada is like San Francisco.
And it's spreading to the U.S. And it needs to stop.
And that's what the Canadian people want.
And it's what the American people want, too.
So you think this goes on for only a couple of weeks?
Tell me why.
unidentified
Because it's going to be very painful for all sides, right?
These tariffs have potential to knock off about 3% to 5% of U.S. earnings, right?
You're only looking about 9.5% to 10% earnings worth this year.
So at the worst-case scenario, you're cutting those in half.
Meaning you think the companies are going to pay for this?
It's not going to get passed on to consumers?
No.
So it's going to hit both sides, right?
So it raises import costs, and then also it's going to hit consumers as well.
Consumers necessarily are going to start to try to think about how they can get around these things.
But when you're thinking about auto exports and, you know, company cars that people drive, that's an issue.
Economic potential impact at the administration?
kevin hassett
You know, we're working on getting the final numbers for the president's budget as we speak.
But I can tell you that the growth that we saw in President Trump's first term pre-COVID is looking like it's going to be a low number compared to what we get when we run all of president policies through the president's budget.
And again, I would ask people to do this.
And I've been very public about this on your show last fall, that if you want to analyze the policy effect of the Trump administration, you need to look at all of them.
And not just take like a couple of papers that say that tariffs are bad and say that's the whole thing that's going to happen.
But if we model the whole thing, that we're definitely getting growth that, as President said, looks like a golden age to us.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
You're just not going to get a free shot at all these networks lying.
About the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
Mega Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Monday, 3 February, in the year of our Lord, 2025.
Days of thunder continue on.
I think it's very important now for the war room posse, because we do have a lot of work to do.
We have confirmations.
We've got to get up on the ramparts a little bit later.
But to, I think, understand or begin to understand what's going on, this is obviously the flood the zone strategy to the nth degree.
And it's a little bit broken, the Democrats.
Chuck Schumer, in fact, I think, I don't know if we have the tape, but he's in Semaphore, and we're hunting for the tape, where he says we're not going to fall for Bannon's flood the zone strategy.
We're going to focus.
Well, so far they haven't focused.
They've been overwhelmed.
Right there we just did the tariffs.
And I want to get to that in a second since obviously we're very – we're pro the American system from Alexander Hamilton, which is protectionist and tariffs are part of it.
President Trump's philosophy is that this is a premium market and you got to get through the golden door.
where you got to pay a premium price.
Now he used, in this effort, he used what's called the emergency authorization.
It was put in back in the time of Nixon.
After Nixon, remember we talked about Nixon, the gold standard.
Nixon started throwing tariffs around, and they wanted a little bit to control him.
So they had a set of criteria you had to have to call an emergency.
This is not the 301s and the 302s we used in the first term as they laid it there to get to basically, remember, Alcoa and particularly U.S. Steel, to get the steel and aluminum tariffs.
This is much more of a national emergency measure.
Now, so President Trump is doing that.
I use this term geoeconomic and geostrategic.
Take your number two pencil out and write those down.
Geoeconomic and geostrategic.
And they're inextricably linked.
This is combining geopolitics with obviously national security and military strategy, national strategy with economic strategy.
Right now we have Pete Hegseth is going to the border to make sure the U.S. Army and the Marine Corps are all deployed along the border so we can shut down and seal the border.
Tom Homan's reporting that I think 93% drop in folks coming across the border.
We're almost sealed.
That part of it is Mexico, you know, understanding what's going on here.
That President Trump is playing hardball, the hardest ball you can play.
Which is really to put up a moat or to put a toll to get into this lucrative market in the United States because, to be brutally frank, Canada and Mexico cannot exist.
They will go into a depression immediately if they can't get access to the U.S. market.
Marco Rubio's in Panama.
Marco Rubio goes to Panama, has, I don't know, a 30-minute meeting in the Panamanian.
President says, okay, we're at a One Belt, One Road.
Remember One Belt, One Road?
This is the Chinese networking system of using predatory capitalism, like the British East India Company, to basically encircle the Eurasian landmass, also to encircle the United States in the Western Hemisphere.
President Trump's strategy, his initial strategy, is a hemispheric defense.
Of not just North America, but Central America and Latin America.
Monroe Doctrine 2.0.
You throw Canada in there and it makes total logic for the Canadians to partner up with us and their alignment with the British Dominions and to partner with us because of the Arctic, the new great game of the 21st century.
Also the economics relating to trade with them, particularly specifically the western provinces, oil and gas, which have also the cultural affinity.
Not a whole lot of difference between the western part of Canada and I don't know, places like Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, North Dakota, Colorado, Utah, the American West.
Actually, let's throw in Oklahoma and Texas in there too for good measure.
Don't be – President Trump is using means and tools to do this.
At the same time, he's taking down the administrative in the deep state.
He's got Emil Bovee.
We don't have confirmation.
We're going to get to that in a second.
Emil Bovee, who's number three in the Justice Department, is essentially taking over the FBI, the Justice Department.
I don't know.
He's also Tom Homan's and Kristi Noem's partner on the raids.
He's overseeing the raid in Chicago.
He's totally starting to deconstruct the FBI and the DOJ, even as we speak.
Elon Musk, on the other hand, is out, I don't know, monitoring, or it's very uncertain how close he is to having his hands on the checkbook at Treasury, but somehow they have some sort of involvement, at least some monitoring, and somebody in the government, I don't know who it is, but somebody at a pretty high level, I think is monitoring either okaying the checks.
I don't know if the Secretary of Treasury or somebody at the White House.
But they've gone to both the OMB memo the other day to find out where the cash is and to halt payments.
That didn't last too long.
Just to find out in the system where the money is, where the cash is, where it's going.
Then you go back to the railhead.
unidentified
Treasury actually cuts the checks.
steve bannon
Elon Musk also overnight has taken out or said to take out with Trump's permission.
unidentified
They may have to get a statutory change here.
steve bannon
With President Trump's permission, USAID, which you know on this show we've had Mike Benz on for years.
That's a cutout for the Central Intelligence Agency, and not just international bad actions, right?
Spread money all over with hell's half acre to who knows what, but also use here domestically.
Flood the zone.
You go down any vertical, national security, immigration, ending the wars in the Middle East, BB's en route.
Zelensky's saying he only got $77 million.
Harnwell's going to be on later.
Zelensky's literally saying, of the $250 billion, I only got $77 billion.
I don't know where your money is.
But geo-economically, it's more than just tariffs.
This is more than just tariffs.
Short commercial break.
We're going to explain it all to you.
unidentified
All right, Kevin, this is really interesting.
Just the idea that maybe there's something that could be negotiated.
Let me just make sure that I'm understanding this correctly from you.
you.
There's something that could be negotiated in the next 24 hours, in the next several days, that would mean the tariffs would either not be put on or would come back if it were to satisfy President Trump's concerns about what's happening at the border and the protections there that are taking this.
I mean, we're calling it a trade war because Canada has already said that they're going to retaliate across the board with tariffs on alcohol, coffee, clothing and shoes for furniture, household appliances, whiskeys, fruit from Florida.
You're saying that this is really more of a negotiation to try and say, no, we want more focus on the border, and if you give that to us, these go away?
kevin hassett
This is not what I'm saying.
People need to read the executive order.
President Trump has said this is about the fentanyl crisis, right?
So I don't know how somebody reads the executive order, if you're Canada, and then comes back and says, oh, we're going to start a trade war.
We're saying we're really, really serious about going after fentanyl, and President Trump means it.
And so there's all this fentanyl shipping across the borders.
There, in the past, have been caravans of people parading across our border, carrying drugs and other things.
And the response of our neighbors has not been, hey, we're going to help you stop this problem.
It's go ahead and build a wall.
So imagine, Becky, if I had all this stuff going on in my house next to yours, and all this stuff was leaking into your property, and then you say, Kevin, you've got to stop all that crime in your place.
And I'm like, hey, you know what?
Becky, build a wall.
That's disrespectful.
And this is the attitude the president has towards what's going on right now.
steve bannon
There is authorization, but let's get to signal, not noise.
I'm going to go back to President Trump, and I realize the executive order.
And this is one major element.
This is the geoeconomic, geostrategic part of this.
This is about putting in an America first national security policy and an economic nationalist economic plan.
And if Denver would be so kind to put these up as I read them.
This is from a guy named Donald J. Trump.
The tariff, as a setting this up, Paul Gijo in the Wall Street Journal, which you know, if you mention War Room or Steve Bannon, they will spit right on the floor.
Right?
They're anti-populist, anti-economic nationalists.
They are global, the neoliberal, neocon paper.
Worse than the Financial Times, if you can believe that.
They wrote a brutal takedown of President Trump about the tariff plan.
Brutal takedown.
It kind of got nasty and a little personal.
Which, as you know, sits real well with Trump, right?
The tariff lobby headed by the globalists and always wrong, and I'm quoting here, from President Trump.
The tariff lobby, headed by the globalist and always wrong Wall Street Journal, is working hard to justify countries like Canada, Mexico, China, and too many others to name, continue the decades-long rip-off of America, all cap.
Both with regard to trade, crime, and poisonous drugs that are allowed to so freely flow into America.
Those days are over.
The USA has major deficits with Canada, Mexico, and China, and almost all countries, owes $36 trillion, and we're not going to be the stupid country any longer.
I'm going to continue on.
Let me make a note for people that have contacted me.
The $36 trillion is our national debt.
It's not what he's saying other countries owe us.
There's been a misreading of that.
But President Trump there is saying $36 trillion, $37 trillion.
Hey, we're rounding up, right?
I continue on.
And we're not going to be the stupid country any longer.
Make your product in the USA and there will be no tariffs.
Let me repeat that from President Trump.
Make your product in the USA and there are no tariffs.
Why should the United States lose trillions of dollars in subsidizing other countries?
And why should these other countries pay a small fraction of the cost of what USA citizens pay for drugs?
And pharmaceuticals, as an example.
This is the next one, if you can put up.
The true soldier goes for a while.
This will be the golden age of America, where there will be some pain, yes, and maybe, and maybe not.
But we will make America great again, and it will all be worth the price that must be paid.
We are a country that is now being run with common sense, and the results will be spectacular.
He continues on.
I want to throw this one in there, too.
Actually, part of the whole thing, I don't think, but I want to tack this on.
We pay hundreds of billions of dollars to subsidize Canada.
unidentified
Why?
steve bannon
There's no reason.
We don't need anything to have.
We have unlimited energy.
Should we make our own cars and have more lumber that we never use?
Without these massive subsidies, Canada ceases to exist as a viable country.
Let me repeat this from President Trump.
Without these massive subsidies, The mechanism to do this, the national emergency called, was about drugs, was about fentanyl, which is chemical warfare, and it is a national emergency, and this has to be done.
The Chinese Communist Party are using this as the reverse opium war, where we lose, I don't know, 100,000 people a year.
And the cost of the zombies that are left because of this heinous drug, the costs are going to be in the trillions of dollars of taking care of people.
And it's gutting our community.
So it is a national emergency.
But there's something also deeper here.
This is President Trump's idea, his concept of economic nationalism.
The external revenue service to take the burden off American corporations and the American people.
It's just not all internal revenue that you can have substantial external revenue.
And if people are not going to work with us, there's going to be a penalty to pay.
And in addition to everybody, this is a premium market.
It's like buying a skybox at a sporting event or going the first road at concert.
There's a premium.
And you, the common man and woman, labor in the vineyard like Burke's little platoons to provide the substrate of civic society, of which you have the stability of the United States.
Did I say anything about gold as a hedge?
Gold hit, can we double check?
Gold hit 2834. Remember, I don't hawk the price of gold.
I think I've talked about the price of gold, I don't know, 20 times in four years.
I always tell you it's a hedge against times of uncertainty.
What do people flock to?
What do the World Central Banks flock to overnight?
Two things, the dollar and gold.
These are uncertain times, folks.
This strategy of President Trump is...
On one level, quite clear directionally where he's going, but it could get a little complicated.
There could be some zigs and zags.
They may be a speed bump or two.
Look what's happened in the last 72 hours just geostrategically.
He's engaged now, I think, this morning in a call with the Mexican president.
Who I think she's trying to, this punch list they've given her, I think she's trying to sort it out.
Here's why.
At 25% tariffs, I'm not so sure Mexico exists.
Canada is thrown into a, beyond a recession, probably a depression.
But I'm not so sure Mexico exists, or it goes down to its core root of the narco state that the cartels have done.
And remember, she's the acolyte.
Of the last guy, the populace, the left-wing populace, who's owned totally by the cartels.
This is why the cartel war stopped.
This is why we declared him a terrorist organization.
This is why we're probably going to go in and go full Sicario on him.
Paramilitary operations, or more.
Think of what Trump is doing.
In the Western Hemisphere, this is hemispheric.
Trump wants to consolidate, drive the CCP out of here.
Which have been allowed to fester.
Look at the APEC meeting back in Chile.
Earlier, they were all over it.
Drive the CCP with Bolsonaro and with Millet out of Latin America.
Drive them out of Central America with ourselves.
Drive them out of Canada because they're all in Canada.
Participate in the great game, the new great game of the 21st century, just like Afghanistan, Pakistan.
Between the Russian and British Empire in the 19th century about India, this is the Arctic.
Whether you like it or not, hey, we don't make all the rules of the game.
The Russians and the Chinese are all over there.
Number one, the Chinese and the Russians with the ballistic missiles up there think they can get a clearer shot of the United States.
Don't think they won't take that shot.
Chinese Communist Party, Russia, I don't know.
Chinese Communist Party, like Mao said, hey, you lose a couple hundred million Chinese, big deal.
They'll replicate.
That's how callous they are.
Canada's greatest protection, the Arctic and the northern border, is now their soft underbelly.
President Trump from Greenland to Panama, and Panama folded.
They're all folding like cheap suits.
Nobody's going to be able to withstand Trump.
Right now, he's gone full savage.
Because he's not going to play around.
Right?
He's getting a little older.
He understands the clock's ticking.
He's hammering the administrative state.
He's hammering the deep state.
He's hammering geo-strategically and geo-economically.
In a bombshell last night, Zelensky, he can't make this stuff up.
Did we warn you about this?
Didn't we warn you about this?
Zelensky, because now he understands the auditors are going to get close.
You're going to have any kind of deal.
The Americans are going to start looking at the books.
Hey, I only got $77 billion.
I don't know where the rest of the money went.
Don't know.
Hey, well, look.
I think I can kind of put maybe a tracer on that.
I'd start in Monaco.
Maybe look down there in some nice villas in the south of France.
I think I'd go to the south of France.
Maybe the west end of London, right?
A couple of three places that oligarchs traditionally hang out.
I think we can find it.
I think we'll find it.
But it's nice that you mention that.
You're saying you're 102 billion short.
Is that what you're telling me?
Actually, we counted it as 250. So you're about 180 short.
But hey, we're just rounding up for friends.
President Trump, geoeconomics, geostrategy on a Monday morning, redefining, he's redefining the problem.
He's going to secure the homeland.
Next.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon
This is a major reorientation of our country, of the model of national security, all of it.
And things will flow from this.
This is how you cut the defense budget.
This is how you make other things happen.
This is how you get wages up.
This is how you take down the administrative state and shatter the deep state.
With the brilliance of it, it's happening simultaneously.
This is why it's been years in the making.
This didn't happen after November 5th.
This has been years in the making.
And the people he selected, we're going to have grace, hopefully, up in the next hour.
We're going to talk about, we've got to get on the ramparts today.
Got to get on the ramparts.
We've got to get these nominees across.
Got to get cash across.
Got to get Tulsi's.
I don't know.
Got to convince Todd Young.
Not yet.
Just hold off on it.
I will get marching orders here shortly.
Todd Young, Cassidy on Bobby.
President wants his team.
Now he's convinced beyond all doubt he wants his team.
He sees what's going on.
Go back to Rubio's opening statements in the Secretary of State hearing.
This is why we covered this.
This is why we covered these in specific moments we covered.
He laid, I says, the end of the post-war international rules-based order, the American empire.
Because that system has deteriorated and been turned and used by the globalists against the American people whose shoulders it rests upon.
It might have worked for a while, but once you've got this Praetorian Guard of the deep state, It stopped working.
It worked for them.
It worked for the globalists.
It worked for the oligarchs and the lords of easy money and Wall Street, but stopped working for the American people.
That's what this is all about.
This is what President Trump's populist nationalist agenda is about.
Step one is secure the hemisphere.
Go back to the founding fathers, to Monroe and the others.
That we don't want Europe and now we don't want Asia in.
The Western Hemisphere.
That's American territory.
And we're going to secure that.
Step one, from Panama, from the Panama Canal, all the way to Greenland.
It's a naval strategy.
It's based on Mahan.
You block off the navies of the world, particularly the Russian Navy, from coming out of their Arctic bases, up there in Murmansk and Archangel, their attack and ballistic missile submarines that come down and threaten the United States.
You block them right there.
Or you can track them so closely that they can't do anything.
You go pop, pop, anything, the balloon goes up, they're done.
You stop the Chinese Navy and the Russian Navy from ever, you know, all this nonsense they're doing in Venezuela and all this nonsense they do in the Caribbean, around Cuba, it's stopped.
You then partner with Canada somehow and you get up that soft underbelly and you're in the Arctic because you got to be because China, it's a great power struggle up there.
So you've secured that, you're in the process of securing it, plus you make it an economic...
unidentified
Powerhouse.
steve bannon
And you do this by people are going to pay premiums or cut deals.
So you're not going to game the system.
The German automotive companies are not going to be able to come over and just build the plants in Mexico.
Trump's stopping the nonsense.
No games.
He's tired of the games.
He's tired of them using the World Trade Organization and using the technicalities of these trade deals.
To get around it and to crush the American worker and the American family.
It's over.
It's over.
That's what they don't understand up here.
It's over.
And geo-strategically, and this is why he talks about a dome also.
Do I know if it's technically feasible?
Does it break the anti-ballistic missile treaty?
That'll all be worked out.
What he's saying is that when he leaves, he wants the homeland totally secured.
unidentified
It's impenetrable.
steve bannon
We have secured borders.
We don't have the Chinese around here.
We're a naval power like we were in the Second World War.
We got the First Island Chain in the Pacific, the Second Island Chain, the Third Island Chain.
The Chinese Communist Party is kind of blocked to the Eurasian landmass.
There you can contain them and we'll figure it out.
But now they can't affect the United States.
They can't get in and launch a ballistic missile from some submarine.
They can't continue to deliver the fentanyl.
All of it.
This concept of the golden door is that this market's a premium market.
It's not a regular market.
It's a premium market.
And Trump understands this.
You're going to pay a premium price to get in.
Europe, China, Saudi Arabia, all of it.
Germany.
It's a total reorientation.
At the same time, he's going after both elements of the administrative state and the deep state.
The memo from OMB and getting control of the checkbook of Treasury are two sides of the same coin.
Don't let all the news go.
It's all scattered.
There is a program here, a well-thought-through program.
Number one, Trump is flooding the zone.
He knows he's broken the system.
Did I not say he's a blunt force instrument?
He's giving blunt force trauma.
Do you see these people on TV? Do you see these newspapers?
Do you see the chatters going around Washington, D.C.? They can't handle it.
They can't respond to it.
You know why?
Because they've gotten lazy and dumb as our rulers?
Because so many people, and this is what I say about conservatives and Republicans, we bowed down to this.
We were afraid of this.
This man is fearless.
He does not give two Fs.
They tried to put him in prison for 300 years.
They tried to assassinate him.
They've done everything.
Tried to bankrupt him, destroy his family, all of it.
He's overcome that.
His superpower is his resilience and his focus.
And this is happening.
Think about this for a second, because we monitor these things 24-7.
He took apart the FBI, the first stage of taking apart the FBI and getting rid of guys that anybody that had their hands on.
Remember, they were illegal.
They were criminals in going after the J6 people and the right to life and others, the parents, all of it.
They're the Gestapo.
They got a love tap on Friday.
DOJ got a love tap.
The guys in D.C., I think he fired 30 of them.
Also, the U.S. attorneys officers around the country, he's gutting some of those, of the bad guys.
That, on Sunday, wasn't in the first half hour of the MSNBC news, but they were so overwhelmed.
That, which they were dying of, because it is, it's 100 times bigger than the Saturday Night Massacre, which was undone or reversed, I don't know, weeks after it was done.
The legendary Saturday Night Massacre of Richard Nixon.
Because Nixon knew in his heart.
Remember, the very first meeting they had that's ever on tape, Nixon names who Deep Throat is.
Felt, he goes, watch Felt.
The deputy director of the FBI. Always watch the deputy directors.
Cash Patel.
Make sure you get a great one.
And he knew they were coming at him with Sirica, the same type of legal coup d'etat they tried to pull on Trump.
Came that close.
Thank God for Boris and the team he put together, and thank God for Trump's just superhuman power to withstand this.
And yes, I'm going to get to the big thing in a second.
There's a couple of big things that are currently not being addressed, and we have to address them, because they are existential.
But on all the other elements, it's coming together in the fact that it's action, action, action.
What did Posobiec say?
The violence of action.
I didn't say these actions were violent.
It's just the system can't respond to our protagonist.
It can't.
You've seen this.
The DNC picked some wimp.
From Minnesota that, I don't know, sits on some council with the other state party chairs.
He's yammering around.
Not changing.
He's committed.
They're not changing their message at all.
Fine.
Thank you very much.
They have no populism, no economic nationalism.
Fetterman's not around.
Roquehanna's not around.
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Fine.
steve bannon
You'll just be buried for another 20 years.
Because what you talk about is nonsense and not particularly relevant.
But that's fine.
You did it.
And Schumer and these guys are completely crushed.
Do we have the clip from Schumer?
Let's play Schumer.
This is Chuck Schumer.
This is where he's adamant.
He's digging in now.
Go ahead.
Let's get him.
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Look, great.
chuck schumer
That's a great question.
But Bannon has this idea of flooding the zone.
He's trying to fool us.
Their view is they'll put so many bad things up that we won't pay enough attention to any of them.
But we're being focused.
We're being pointed.
When this executive order and this funding freeze came out, we focused all our fire on that, even though there were many other bad things being done, and we will return to those bad things.
But we're not letting them trick us with this flood the zone strategy.
Yes.
The worst ones, and there are a lot of them.
And we have a lot of energy, and we have a lot of talent in our caucus, and you're going to see us focusing on a whole bunch of different things.
It just so happened that this funding freeze was so, so broad and so cruel that we knew we could arouse the American people.
And one other good thing happened.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
We have a lot of energy and a lot of good people.
Okay, I'm sure we're going to see that because I'm not seeing it right now.
And this should be a lesson to the White House.
They did try to chop block us the other day.
Just bowl over them.
Doesn't matter.
Just keep rolling.
Heck, the OMB memo seems like it was back in the Stone Age.
Remember that last week?
Every day it's a new crisis for these guys because they can't handle it.
You can't hear the first part.
Can we cut it without the question?
I just want to hear his voice.
When you get that ready, give me a thumbs up.
This is very important.
They're not going to fall for the strategy or flood the zone.
You don't have to fall for the strategy.
It's overwhelming you.
We've telegraphed it.
It's fine.
You're overwhelmed because you're so lazy you have no intellectual pushback.
You had the confirmation.
Where's the intellectual pushback on Tulsi Gabbard?
Where's the intellectual pushback on Bobby Kennedy?
Where's the intellectual pushback on Kash Patel?
Here's what I absolutely love.
You want to know what flood the zone is?
You want to know what don't give two F's is by President Trump?
Chew on this for a second.
We got cash.
Cash is the safest of the three, but folks, it ain't over until it's over, okay?
Particularly coming out of committee.
With some of these gutless Republicans up there.
Cash has a long day on Thursday and does great.
He does great, but it's a long day.
They're coming at him, bang, bang, bang.
He's great.
Cash is being cash.
You've seen him here for four years, right?
You know cash.
You have faith in cash and trust in cash.
Cash is going to get there.
He's tough.
He's resilient.
They go to the FBI and do that starting Thursday night, all day Friday.
You would think, hey, maybe I've got to get Pam Bondi, because half of Pam Bondi's confirmation hearing is about Cash Patel.
Maybe I should wait until Pam and Cash get confirmed.
No.
It's scheduled today.
We're doing it today.
Kaboom.
Kaboom.
Hammered right there.
Hammered.
And it's blown to it.
What even the top five stories on Sunday in MSNBC? And they understand by losing the FBI. This is like USAID. It's not a lot of money.
It's 50 billion a year.
I say that.
50 billion a year.
Just tossing around.
We're talking trillions.
But the evil it does is, you know, incomprehensible.
That's why it's got to go.
It's the cutout for the CIA. They say, oh, no, it's not.
No, it's not.
It's all for good projects.
No, it's not.
We're choking off the CIA. We're going to choke off the FBI. And people said, well, Steve, you're so concerned about the CCP? No.
They hurt us with the CCP. Don't help us.
They've been terrible.
They're infested.
We're doing a terrible job against the Chinese Communist Party.
Terrible job against the Chinese Communist Party.
Their infiltration.
Birchgold.com, I'm really proud.
Overwhelming.
And we're going to do something different.
We're going to announce the next day or two as soon as we get the package put together.
But go.
The end of the dollar empire.
President Trump went off on the bricks.
He says we ain't ended the dollar empire.
Dollar's stronger than ever because of his, because of flight to safety, a flight to quality.
Gold's at an all-time high, I think, this morning.
Why is that?
I don't know.
I think it's because it's a hedge against times of turbulence.
Do you ever hear that?
Do you ever hear that pitch?
Times of turbulence?
Monday in the global capital markets, it's turbulent.
Okay?
It's turbulent.
That's where they're flocking to gold.
Don't take it from me.
Talk to the professionals.
Birchgold.com slash Bannon.
Get Modern Monetary Theory, the sixth free installment.
More importantly, talk to Philip Patrick and the team.
I bet gold is a hedge.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon
Okay, Mexico spreads a breaking news.
Mexico's president says terrorists will be paused for one month after a discussion with President Trump.
As part of pausing terrorists, Mexico will deploy 10,000 National Guard troops to help secure the border, work with the U.S. on security and business.
Markets are surging on the news.
We'll double-check that right here.
Just came across the wire.
Let me report.
This is a Kobayashi letter.
But they're also putting out announcements now.
Breaking news.
Mexico's presence says terrorists will be paused for one month after a discussion with President Trump.
As part of the pausing tariffs, Mexico will deploy 10,000 National Guard troops to help secure the border.
Work with the U.S. on security and business.
Markets are surging on the news.
President Trump, he broke Panama yesterday.
He broke Colombia the other day.
You know, he broke this bond that Panama had with the Chinese Communist Party right there in Mexico.
And when he says in business, he read in his longer tariff, about the tariff lobby.
He's not going to let the system be gamed.
He's not going to let factories be built in Mexico, right across the border, or just in Canada, where things are going back seven and eight times.
Just to game the system.
It's no games.
This is a geoeconomic and geostrategic realignment.
A geoeconomic and geostrategic realignment.
It's meaningful and it's deep.
And it's going to be long-lasting.
This is not going to get reversed.
You know why it's not reversed?
Because the globalists don't have anything intellectually to come back with.
They got so lazy being in power so long and having the oligarchs in Silicon Valley that could shut you down so your voice couldn't hear.
here and quite frankly part of the reason we're here is this little show called War Room and this audience because they took us off every platform.
If I haven't been for the guys at Real America's Voice in one or two podcast platforms and we actually had to reach out to a guy and build our own podcast kind of mechanism even to put the show up on podcasts to do it because they stripped that from us too.
Yep.
If you don't fear them and you don't quit your you'll eventually beat them.
And now they're on the run.
You don't see all the big talkers that are coming around about NATO. Listen, Trump said, hey, we're at 3.5%, I think 3.4 or 3.5% of GDP going to the national security budget.
And I think that undercounts it.
I think it undercounts it.
He told Europe, you got to go to 5%.
You're worried about the Russian army, you got to be at 5%.
You're going to do Ukraine, you're going to put security troops in, you're going to put a security force there.
To guarantee a ceasefire or a peace agreement.
You better step into play for money and for men.
Because we're not going to do it.
What you see is going to happen on the Eurasian landmass.
We have a Ukraine war.
We have World War I and World War II. And it's all around Eurasia.
In the Pacific and Eurasia.
We're a Pacific power.
But it's hemispheric.
We're going to lock in the hemisphere first.
Secure everything.
So no more invasion in the United States.
No more 15 million illegal alien invaders.
No more chemical warfare.
No more.
Secure it.
The actions are bold.
Hex is at the border.
Secretary of Defense is at the border.
Secretary of State is down in Panama.
Taking back the canal.
Because we are taking back the canal.
President Trump said we're taking it back.
You can call it One Belt, One Road.
Tell anything you know.
All the Chinese billboards are all coming down because they're going to throw all the Chinese out.
Boom, you're going home from Panama.
They're all CCP. You're going home.
This is bold action.
He's the Mac Daddy, okay?
He's the Mac Daddy.
And he's giving you the violence of action.
And the wimps that ran this country behind shields and behind nefarious, right?
They had the platforms.
They had the money.
They weren't bold enough to come out and say it to your face.
I can't wait until we start adjudicating this.
Some of these guys start going to prison.
They're going to turn it real well there.
Not.
It had to have a man.
Yes, a man.
A throwback to like the 1950s.
When America was bold and America was direct and America took charge.
This is a guy taking charge.
Hey, do you have a few, you know, speed bumps and ins and outs?
But they found out where that cash is.
Am I totally happy that maybe you have outsiders of data?
No.
I said, this is not perfect.
It's far from perfect.
I think I got a lot of problems with some of the stuff going on, but hey, hey, you got to hammer it down somehow.
You saw where the cash went and people exploded.
That's what Schumer's talking about.
Just seeing where the cash goes and it's everywhere.
This means the cuts are going to be hard.
One of my issues here is that a little bit of this is performative.
We're not getting to the thing itself.
Remember, Eurasian land war has got to stop, invasion of the southern border, sidebar, deconstruct the administrative state, go after the deep state.
But the main thing is called the money.
The existential threat that's on top of us, along with the CCP, is the debt.
And the clock keeps ticking.
You know, Tax Network USA, this is why...
Tax Network USA solves problems for...
The individual, like we've got to solve for the U.S. government.
Because you just can't, if you don't deal with it, the interest keeps building.
That's what's happening now.
It's growing at an accelerating rate.
TNUSA.com and go and use the code BANNON. You get a discount.
But they'll take your letter that you've hidden away because the fees, the penalties, and the interest keep building.
The IRS doesn't stop because you put it in the drawer.
Oh, she put it in the drawer?
Okay, fine.
Then we're not going to count it.
It doesn't work like that.
It does not work like that.
That's where you've got to call them.
And they'll tell you up front they can help or they can't help.
If they can't help, then, hey, call the IRS and go for it.
Figure out how you negotiate yourself.
But if these guys can help you, take a long look.
Because they may be able to cap, they may be able to get you a discount, may be able to cap the penalty, the fees, who knows?
But they do.
Go check them out.
TNUSA. That's what we need right now.
I guess Chip Roy is going to have to be, somebody's got to step up and be the bad guy.
Chip Roy is volunteering.
What happened the last couple, last weekend, Daryl was a joke.
Remember, only 170 Republicans showed up.
Some of your heroes didn't even go.
Guys like Eli Crane.
I asked Eli, where are you going?
He said, it's a waste of time.
They came out totally, folks.
I'm not making this up.
Washington Post reports.
The total cuts they came up with.
And remember, they played this game with the 10-year budget.
They say, well, Steve, we have to do a 10-year budget.
It's statutory.
unidentified
You got to do it.
steve bannon
I got that.
But that's all window dressing.
Tell me this year and next year.
That's all I care about.
This is a turnaround.
I'm a turnaround guy.
I worked on this for decades.
I don't care about 10 years from now.
Because you ain't going to get there.
We need this year and next year.
And next year's not guaranteed.
How about this year?
How about the next 30 days?
How about the next 60 days?
But no company I ever worked with had a money printing machine, fiat currency.
Did I tell you that gold was an all-time high today?
No correlation?
Times of turbulence.
Birch Gold, go check it out.
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