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Feb. 1, 2025 - Bannon's War Room

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Episode 4238: Scale And Executive Action To Take Back Our Country

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steve bannon

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rachel maddow

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rachel maddow ▲ ● ▼		Here's the memo obtained tonight by MSNBC's Ryan Riley.
		Quote, colleagues, we understand there's a lot of media reporting and rumors surrounding potential changes at the FBI.
		This includes reporting and rumors about actions that very seriously impact our workforce.
		Consistent with our commitment to share information with you as we receive it, Acting Deputy Director Kassane and I want to provide you with an update.
		Late this afternoon, I received a memo from the Acting Deputy Attorney General notifying me that eight senior FBI executives are to be terminated by specific dates unless these employees have retired beforehand.
		So eight of them will be out unless they quit.
		Quote, I have been personally in touch with each of these impacted employees.
		The memo also directs me to provide by noon on Tuesday the following.
		Quote, All current and former FBI personnel assigned at any time to investigations and or prosecutions relating to events that occurred at or near the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021. And also, secondly, United States v.
		Hanayia, which is, I believe, a case about Hamas and the October 7th attack.
		They want a list of all current and former FBI personnel assigned at any time to investigations or prosecutions related to January 6th or that one Hamas case.
		These lists should include relevant supervisory personnel in FBI regional offices and field divisions, as well as FBI headquarters.
		For each employee included in the list, provide the current title, office to which the person is assigned, role in the investigation or prosecution, and date of last activity relating to the investigation or prosecution.
		Upon timely receipt of the requested information, the Office of the Deputy Attorney General will commence a review process to determine whether additional personnel actions are necessary.
		The acting director of the FBI then tells personnel at the FBI, quote, We understand that this request encompasses thousands of FBI employees across the country who have supported these investigative efforts.
		efforts i am one of those employees as is acting deputy director kassane as we have said since the moment we agreed to take on these roles meaning the acting director and acting acting deputy director of the fbi we are going to follow the law follow fbi policy and do what is in the best interest of the workforce and the american people always we will be back in touch with more information as soon as we can in the meantime stay safe and take care of each other brian j driscoll jr acting director
unidentified		um this past monday interim u.s attorney martin issued an email to the He said that there would be an internal investigation into our office and specifically the January 6th prosecutors charging decisions with respect to charging certain violators or rather certain January 6th defendants with violations of 18 U.S. Code 1512,
		which is the statute that the Supreme Court ultimately ruled in the United States versus Fisher, or rather Fisher versus the United States, did not apply to the January 6th riots.
		So we know there's at least some amount of investigation ongoing, whether or not that is criminal, civil, or merely internal, I can't say.
rachel maddow ▲ ● ▼		As former Trump defense lawyer Emile Bove at the Justice Department, possibly on orders from the White House, has demanded a list of every single FBI agent in the entire country who worked on any January 6th case in any capacity at all.
		And even though that includes the new acting director and the new acting deputy director, who Trump himself just ham-handedly accidentally appointed, they say the reason they want that list is because they're going to review it for potential personnel action against all those agents.
		Does this fundamentally change who we are as a country?
		If FBI and Justice Department prosecutors, FBI officials and Justice Department prosecutors have now had their careers threatened and in some cases ended, specifically because they worked on lawful cases that didn't please the president, have we already sort of crossed a Rubicon in terms of who we are as a country and what the rule of law is in the United States of America?
unidentified		Absolutely.
		That's what's happening.
		I mean, the cruelty of it is this wonderful young prosecutor, idealistic, is gone, right?
		The second thing is that it's clear that it's, quote, my Justice Department, as the president called it.
		That brings us back to the days when it was J. Edgar Hoover, but instead of J. Edgar Hoover going after Martin Luther King or even the John Birch Society for political reasons, it's Donald Trump doing it to use the Justice Department or the FBI to exact retribution or pursue political enemies.
		But I've got to say, there is a responsibility that we have in the United States Senate as an independent institution to cry foul here.
		And I really am hoping that my Republican colleagues, many of whom I have great respect for, see that this is no game anymore.
		I mean, what the president did with this impoundment, he has no authority to do.
		What he's doing with the purging of the FBI is showing that he is deadly serious, and I think there was a lot of wishful thinking on a lot of folks.
		That the Trump agenda would be different than it was.
		But he's made it clear.
		Lawlessness and cruelty.
		He will use both of those to take care of his need for retribution, but also to privilege the Elon Musk of the world.
		And there's only a few of them, but those are the ones who are in charge.
		And by the way, there was an Elon Musk SpaceX person over there at the Justice Department.
		And is he going to be looking over Kash Patel's shoulder in the purge?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
		Pray for our enemies.
		Because we're going medieval on these people.
		Here's the time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
		The people have had a belly full of it.
		I know you don't like hearing that.
		I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
		It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified		MAGA Media.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified		Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified		War Room.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Saturday, 1 February, Year of Our Lord 2025.
		You're in the War Room on another workday.
		Bop, bop, bop.
		You saw Senator Welch right there.
		Impoundment.
		Impoundment and removal of billets and programs.
		But really billets in this case.
		President Trump, the deconstruction of the administrative state is full bore.
		The question I have for Rachel Maddow and the MSNBC team and all these defenders of the American Gestapo, we've called them that for two or three years now.
		Did you honestly think, let me get this right, did you honestly think that you were going to use Gestapo-like tactics against the American people and you were going to kick down doors and you were going to...
		You're going to terrorize families, school board meetings, you're going to terrorize families of the people praying the rosary outside of these abortion mills, and that you were going to terrorize, because that's what you try to do, terrorize Trump supporters and MAGA supporters, have the largest quote-unquote criminal investigation in your history that dwarfed anything about the anti-war movement.
		During the 60s, different than anything about finding the communist infiltration in our country in the 30s, 40s, and 50s.
		Anything regarding radical Islamic jihad, which you missed in the 80s and 90s, and then after 9-11.
		All of these things.
		All these major moments of infiltration by our enemies.
		and the largest was going to be against the MAGA movement and American citizens, and you would throw in the Right to Life movement, you would throw in really what's at the beginning of Maha, Make America Healthy Again, which was really the school board meetings and the awakening of the American mom to what was going on in the schools.
		Do you honestly think that would all be done and you would trample on civil rights and human rights and destroy people and bankrupt people and have people commit suicide?
		I'll see you next time.
		And feel like they were other, they were not part of their country anymore.
		Do you honestly think that that was going to happen and there would be no accountability?
		Is that what you thought?
		This is not the Republican Party.
		Language has to get precise, I think, if you want to understand this historic moment.
		You can't talk about Republicans and Democrats anymore.
		That's a label that's meaningless.
		It's meaningless.
		The Republican Party and the quote-unquote, you know, limited government conservative, and I realize a lot of you people used to be limited government conservative, maybe some of you are, but limited government conservative and constitutional conservative, year after year, cycle after cycle, you put people back in.
		And what happened?
		They shredded the Constitution.
		And the controlled opposition of the Republican Party and the limited government conservative movement just sat there and either...
		We're okay with it, work with it, got along with it, but they never opposed it.
		They might have sat there and made some speeches and sent some angry letters, but that's not opposing it.
		That's not opposing it.
		This is an apparatus that is running the most powerful nation on earth, and they're not going to give it up.
		Why do you think in those four years, what they did to Trump in the first term was horrendous?
		But look what they did to Trump after they stole the 2020 election.
		After they stole, let me repeat, after they stole the 2020 election.
		They're like the Praetorian Guard.
		They choose who runs the empire.
		And the, you know, kind of the Spartacus guys weren't destroyed.
		It was a resilience.
		And so now President Trump is back and we're in charge.
		President Trump's in charge.
unidentified		To show you...
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		His commitment and focus and determination.
		And like I say, when you look at Days of Thunder, you have to have three scales.
		Scale, depth, and urgency.
		Scale, the scale of it, the depth of it, every vertical, the scale of it, of all the verticals, the whole waterfront of everything that has impacted the country, everything that's taken away, destroyed.
		The Constitutional Republic that has destroyed our sovereignty, our territorial integrity, our citizens, all of it.
		From Geneva and the World Health Institute, to where money's going all over the world, to the southern border, to Latin America, to Canada, to the Arctic, to Ukraine, to Beijing, to Tehran, the capitals of Europe, to Los Angeles.
		To Chicago.
		Everywhere.
		The scale of it.
		It's everything all together.
		I think I know this pretty well because we've been working on it, I don't know, for 10 years of my life, but for the last four years specifically, very detailed on the return.
		You've been on the show.
		You follow the show.
		Those of you who came in after the election, so many people come up to you.
		You gave us hope.
		You gave us hope.
		Well, we weren't happy talking to you.
		We said, here's how we do it.
		Here's how we do it.
		And this is the political part where it starts a precinct strategy and rebuilds confidence.
		And you start with the American Policy Institute and the Peter Navarro books and Project 25. And you build up verticals in policy and also teams and cadres and a vanguard of a cadre.
		That's a revolutionary movement.
		And now the scale of it is breathtaking.
		And I say that someone knows a little bit about this.
		It's breathtaking.
		The depth of it is breathtaking.
		But the most impressive thing is the urgency of it.
		President Trump is acting in that saying, there are decades that nothing happens, and then there's weeks that decades happen.
		These are the weeks of Donald John Trump in 1947. This is why it's the age of Trump.
		And they sit there.
		Do you honestly think we're going to let the Gestapo get away with it?
		You know, was it Quentin Tarantino?
		These guys in Hollywood, they write these fantasy movies.
		What they would do to the Nazis.
		All these fantasy movies.
		Fantasy movies.
		It wasn't done to the Nazis.
		All these fantasy movies.
		Like little nine-year-old boys.
		Let's have a fantasy movie.
		We're actually doing it.
		What you saw yesterday was nothing short of magnificent.
		Nothing short of magnificent.
		And for those of you on the receiving end of this, the blunt force instrument that leaves blunt force trauma, you did this to yourselves.
		You brought This on yourselves.
		Action reveals character.
		You revealed your character over many years because you thought you were untouchable.
		You thought you were impervious to all this.
		You treated people like garbage.
		You destroyed people.
		You destroyed families.
		You tried to destroy movements.
		You wanted to put Trump, in this aspect of it, in prison for 300 years.
		You wanted him to die in a federal prison.
		Let me repeat this.
		You wanted him to die in a federal prison.
		Having been to a federal prison, it's quite easy to die in a federal prison.
		You wanted him to die in a federal prison.
		Did you honestly think there would not be accountability?
		Well, if you did, you were sadly...
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, welcome back.
		There's going to be much more of this.
		This had to be taken care of first.
		And it's not stopped.
		Somebody contacted me the other day and said, you know, some of the senior guys over there are very worried about their jobs.
		I said they shouldn't be worried about their jobs.
		They should be worried about their criminal defense.
		This is only the first step.
		Stage one.
		Step one.
		We're not doing it for Trump.
		We're not doing it for Navarro, Bannon, or any of the thousands of J6 guys rolled up, men and women.
		They have nothing to do with it.
		They're totally irrelevant.
		This has to be done because it has to be done.
		We cannot allow this republic to go forward with this cancer.
		It's a cancer over there.
		The deep state's a cancer.
		If they had, you couldn't forgive them, but you might understand if they had done an amazing job and the country was both prosperous and peaceful.
		We're not, we're besieged everywhere.
		And our enemies have infiltrated us and we underwrite them.
		Your tax dollars underwrite them.
		That's why it's such a sham.
		This is why they're so offended on Thursday.
		They were offended.
		You saw him.
		You see, even guys like Bennett was.
		Bennett's a school teacher.
		Bennett was a school supervisor.
		There's some calm guy from Colorado.
		Did you see the viciousness coming through on Tulsi Gabbard about the Ukraine question?
		Maybe we can play that in a minute.
		We got work to do on Tulsi.
		I don't want to get too cocky because I think they may try to call cash back.
		Because the events took place Friday.
		That's in perspective.
		This is how President Trump, I believe, is thinking.
		Cash hasn't been voted on his committee.
		Bobby has not been voted on his committee.
		Tulsi has not been voted on the committee, by the committee.
		The committee of authority, they go through first.
		He doesn't care.
		He doesn't care.
		It's absolutely important to him to make sure this thing is done and done appropriately and done immediately and done expeditiously with urgency.
		It's scale because he's covering the waterfront in every vertical that we've talked about for years on this show.
		They've got action plans and are taking executive action.
		Remember the concept we laid out to you, the violence of action.
		Not that it's violent, but it's the violence of action that Poso talks about.
		He'll be up here at 11. The violence of action.
		Action, action, action, action.
		You're the protagonist in your life.
		You're the protagonist in the story.
		You're driving action, driving action, driving action.
		Make them react.
		Flood the zone.
		Action, action, action.
		Flood the zone.
		Action, action, action.
		Vertical, vertical, vertical.
		Wide across the thing.
		Scale.
		Scale it.
		Make it big.
		Make it important.
	They're so used to having power.
	See how lazy they've gotten?
	See how pathetic they are?
	See the bleeding?
	You see the confirmations?
	They're bleeding out.
	Bleat.
	Bleat.
	And Bobby Kennedy finally having enough of it?
	Maybe get that clip for me later.
	Finally having a belly full of it?
	Calls out Bernie Sanders.
	All you Bernie bros, I tell you, he's pathetic.
	Pathetic old man.
	Totally irrelevant.
	Taking money from Big Pharma.
	And at the end, well, I raised $200 million, only a million.
	You're bought and paid for.
	Pathetic.
	Go talk about the minimum wage.
	Another misdirection play.
	While you sit there and allow illegal immigrant invasion come through in the H-1B visas, glad you jumped in after we took on the oligarchs.
	Hey, dude, hold my beer.
	Scale, depth, urgency.
	Scale, depth, urgency.
	People around Trump, oh, you can't, you don't do this.
	Cash has not been voted.
	They have not been voted.
	Boom.
	How about this?
	Get rid of them and do it today.
	I want it done by 5 o'clock.
	I want them out.
	I want them out of the building.
	What you folks should do, don't worry about your jobs.
	Your jobs are gone because you've disgraced the institution that you were sworn to uphold.
	You've disgraced your oath before God Almighty about defending the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic.
	Turned out you were the domestic enemies.
	Yes, you will go down in history.
	Because history is written by the victors, and we are the victors now, and we will be the victors in the future, and we will write the history.
	And you are the villains.
	You're being cast out.
	Now you cast us out, but we were resilient.
	We had nothing.
	We had no control, no access, nothing on any of the institutions of power in this nation.
	Not Wall Street and the capital markets, not the corporatists and all the corporate power, not the apartheid state in Silicon Valley, not the media in Hollywood, not the media in New York City, the television media.
	We didn't have pop culture.
	We didn't have high culture.
	We didn't have the universities.
	We didn't have the official churches.
	We had nothing, nothing, nothing.
	But the indomitable will of this movement, of a populist movement, of sovereign will, that's what populism is.
	What you saw last night is applied populism.
	Through a blunt force instrument that happens to be the 47th president of the United States, delivering blunt force trauma.
	You saw them last night, that's trauma.
	They're traumatized.
	Blunt force trauma.
	My mom said, get a taste of your own medicine.
	They didn't like it.
	And they're going to like it a lot less.
	Yeah, they're going to strike back.
	Of course they're going to strike back.
	They're quite powerful.
	They're going to strike back.
	Got that.
	They're going to resist and then they're going to strike.
	That's why action, action, action.
	Trump gets this.
	There's an article the other day he met with his team.
	I think it was in the Atlantic.
	He met with his team, and they had the executive orders, people were there, and they said, look, we have a program to roll these out over the first 30 days or the first 60 days, and we'll drop one every couple of days, and we'll have a press conference.
	He goes, no.
	Get them ready.
	I want them out, you know, one, two, three, bang, bang, bang.
	Let's roll.
	Let's go.
	Let's overwhelm.
	Let's take on this apparatus and break it.
	Let's take the Praetorian Guard and break it.
	They don't seem so tough now, do they?
	Remember how high and mighty they were coming to the microphone and you're this and you're that and having press conferences and seeing people perp walked and seeing people in jail and coming.
	You know, Jack Smith's team came and sat in the front row when I was sentenced and they were laughing and joking.
	Didn't bother me.
	Didn't care.
	The woman who stood and perjured herself in my trial, it's a simple trial.
	Perjures have a lie.
	Bald face lied.
	Look right there.
	Bald face lie.
	Said it with Jack Smith's guys.
	Bald-faced lie.
	She scrambled, took a pardon.
	Begged for a pardon.
	Just like all of them.
	Begging for pardons.
	The J6 committee don't look so tough now, does it?
	Remember how puffed up they were on national TV? ABC News.
	Breaking News.
	Broadcast television, I think, at first.
	Broadcast TV. National TV. This is like Watergate.
	This is bigger than Iran-Contra.
	Remember all that?
	Liz Cheney don't look so puffed up anymore, does she?
	Benny Thompson.
	Remember how puffed up Benny Thompson was?
	Remember Benny?
	Remember Kinzinger?
	Shifty shift.
	All those lies he told every nun of Rachel Maddow during Russia hoax.
	All of that.
	Ball fake coming out.
	Just came at Intel.
	This will be damning to President Trump.
	This will connect it.
	He's done.
	He's going to prison.
	Then on the committee.
	Just a shifty shift.
	Grab himself a pardon.
	Not so sure those pardons are going to work.
	That's the next step.
	You're just going to say, don't depend on those pardons.
	Don't count on them.
	Maybe you can bring them up as your trial.
	Hey, I was given a pardon.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	We'll check that out.
	Seems like an interesting factoid.
	This was directed by the President of the United States.
	Let me repeat this theory of the unified executive, unitary executive.
	He is...
	So if anyone out there is missing it, and if I was the producers of the Rachel Madden, all these guys, take your number two pencil out and write this one down.
	He's the chief executive officer of the United States government.
	And in that, if he wants to take the money and impound it, he's going to take the money and impound it.
	Welch gets it.
	You heard him right there.
	He's going to take the money and pound it.
	Number two, he's the commander-in-chief of the Uniformed Military Services.
	And if he decides, at his sole discretion, let me repeat this, sole discretion, to recall Milley to active duty, him put on a uniform, and tell Hegseth and the team over at the Pentagon, To convene a military tribunal under the Uniform Code of Military Justice and try for treason, that will be done.
	And last but not least, he is the chief magistrate and the chief law enforcement officer of the country.
	The way...
	That they really built in this kind of last phase, the deep state, and made it impervious and acted like they just acted, is they had a coup against Richard Nixon.
	It wasn't CIA and Woodward University.
	That was all part.
	But the main part, the central part, was Sirica, the federal court in D.C., the House staff lawyers, and the Justice Department.
	Does this ring a bell to anybody?
	Do you ring a bell?
	Oh, yeah.
	I think they did that to Trump, too, didn't they?
	And Trump's followers, didn't they do that?
	Yeah.
	They laid the blueprint then.
	Jeff Shepard wrote two books about it.
	They're brilliant.
	And Jeff Shepard should know.
	He was a lawyer in the White House Counsel's Office and reported to the rat, John Dean.
	He saw it all.
	And he spent his life documenting.
	Ask Monica Crowley.
	They ran out of playboy and for years they hived off.
	They hermetically sealed the FBI in the Justice Department for their own devices.
	Yesterday, On the 31st of January, in the year of our Lord, 2025, that hermetically sealed institution, the seal was broken.
	The seal was broken.
	Because the chief magistrate of the United States government, the chief law enforcement officer, decided to break the seal.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, welcome back.
		The, um...
		So this is going to continue.
		They are purging.
		It's a purge.
		Some people around the president don't want to say that, but it's a purge.
		You have to.
		You have to get the virus out of the body.
		You have to.
		We allowed this country...
		Republicans, conservatives, myself, all of us.
		We allowed this country to get in a terrible, terrible, terrible place.
		A dark place.
		Run by bad people.
		Evil people.
		There's not a difference in politics.
		There's not a difference in, you know, I think the marginal tax rate should be there.
		No, I think it should be there.
		No, I think, you know, this ought to be that.
		That ought to be this.
		The typical discourse of politics, Obamacare.
		Remember the arguments in the Tea Party that seemed so huge in those days?
		They're so tiny today.
		This is different.
		This is how a free republic, the last best hope of mankind, because here, as Lincoln told us, it's the last, you know, Ken, this whole idea of self-government.
		What can't work if you have an apparatus that thinks it runs the deal and you're just passing through, and that's what we have.
		That's what the administrative state is, and that's the deep state.
		It's the kind of rogue element.
		And President Trump, yes, we're going after the administrative state, and Elon's doing some stuff, and Russ Vogt, and there's budgets and process and critical pass and all that.
		It's all happening.
		But hey, you've got a bad element of this that's deep state, and he ain't going to tolerate it.
		Let me repeat.
		They tried to put him in prison for 300 years on just one aspect of it.
		300 years.
		To die in prison.
		To die in prison.
		And you have people on J6. There was a guy in my cell block across my cell and right across in his cell.
		I think he got 15 years.
		He's out now, by the way.
		He's out.
		And look at these guys that just men and women just walked through the cabinet.
		They didn't care.
		Break you and bankrupt you by legal.
		They don't care.
		They don't care that your life's destroyed and your business is gone.
		They don't care.
		They didn't care.
		They didn't care because they thought you were powerless and you're never coming back.
		And now they understand that you actually are, I don't know, pretty powerful.
		And President Trump's the avenging angel.
		And he don't want to hear it.
		I think the timing of it is magnificent.
		Because for Fisher-Washington, oh my gosh, Cash, you know, the committee, and ba-bing, ba-bang, and oh my gosh, man, the committee, he doesn't give FAFO. FAFO. Donald Trump.
		Boom!
		Yesterday.
		Had every option in the world to wait.
		Oh no, the committee will vote cash today and maybe the Senate floor.
		He doesn't care.
		Doesn't care.
		I want it done.
		I want to start to, I want to lance the boil and let's drain the pus out of it.
		And let's do it now.
		Let's not wait.
		That's what an adult says.
	That's what a parent says.
	That's what someone in charge says.
	Let's not wait.
	Let's take action.
	What did Churchill write on the top of the memos?
	Action this day.
	Action this day.
	He had all kinds of things coming to him.
	Everybody's got an idea.
	Everybody wants to do this, wants to do that.
	Proposals and programs and policies and all of it.
	Action this day.
	That's how World War II was won.
	Action this day.
	That's Trump.
	That's when so many things happen simultaneously.
	This is just one aspect of it.
	You can go back from what we told you, stopping the kinetic part of the Third World War to the mass deportations, what you're doing on securing the border, all of it.
	But get the military.
	Get the military airlift command.
	Get home and run around.
	Go to the sanctuary cities.
	Put one on the hip of the secretary of DHS in a bulletproof vest and let her roll.
	Start rolling up some folks.
	All hands on deck.
	The financial crisis, get Besson, get a vote.
	Let's get working on this.
	Elon, start taking about billets.
	Let's just roll.
	Let's go.
	Action, action, action.
	Flood the zone.
	Keep moving.
	They have no intellectual response.
	Don't give them time to organize.
	People say, well, Steve, shouldn't you let them have time to reflect?
	No.
	No.
	They've had decades in charge.
	Now they're not in charge.
	So let's make sure they understand how not in charge they are.
	Action, action, action.
	Go to the point of attack.
	In the point of attack, put your best people in.
	Do not flinch.
	Do not falter.
	Move it.
	Action, action, action.
	And now you have all the media and there are all the customs and norms.
	We have some work to do on this.
	Can I play?
	Let's play.
	Tulsi Gabbard, we've got some work.
	202-225.
	202, excuse me.
	224-3121.
	That would be the Senate.
	Although you could call 225 over at the House and get put to the Senate.
	They'll be hiding today.
	They're actually working, I think.
	They're going to be hiding.
	They're probably not going to pick up your calls.
	Get Bill Blaster.
	Or get Mike Davis in the team.
	You saw Mike's response was last night, just loving what's going on.
	Let's play.
	I think we have work to do on Bobby.
	We have work to do on Cash.
	We have a little more work to do on Tulsi.
	We're going to get there.
	But we have to let people know what the stakes are.
	This is not a free choice.
	It has to be contextualized.
	Like, the president, this is the team he wants, he gets his team.
	And if you're not going to vote that way, well, guess what?
	Actions, ideas have consequences, and actions have consequences.
	Let's go and play Tulsi.
unidentified		Tulsi Gabbard's the opposite of qualified.
ali velshi ▲ ● ▼		She may be less qualified for this job than Pete Hegseth was to run the Defense Department.
unidentified		Yeah, that's a pretty neck-and-neck competition there among the various nominees that are up right now about who's least qualified.
		I still think Hegseth wins simply because of the size of the Defense Department and his inability and inexperience to deal with that.
		But Gabbard, I mean, I think, you know, one of the things that has been so distressing about these hearings, and you see it especially with the Gabbard hearing, are any of those Republican senators really behind closed doors?
		Would any of them turn to each other and say, Yeah, you know, I'm a little concerned about her views, but she's totally qualified.
		She's an absolutely credible choice.
		This is another example, I think, of Donald Trump intentionally choosing people who are unqualified and controversial because he's actually not trying to reform or improve any of these organizations.
		Except in the case of the Defense Department and the FBI and particularly DNI, people could die.
ali velshi ▲ ● ▼		And the danger at DNI is that the folks who die, if CIA agents in the field die, no one ever gets to know about it.
unidentified		A star goes up at Langley.
		You will never know their names.
		But all that is secondary to Donald Trump trying to break and then own the pieces of these institutions.
		He views the intelligence community as his opponent.
		He views the Justice Department as an enemy.
		He loathes the FBI. Yes.
		Yes.
		thinking.
		But that's not what's going on here.
		And Gabbard, I think, is really the example of this is not intended to actually improve these institutions and destroy them.
		Let me ask you, I've worked very hard to put your own words here in front of the committee.
		Not, you know, fake news, not conspiracy theories on the internet, but the actual things that you have said.
		On February 23rd, 2022, at the very moment that Russian tanks were rolling across the peaceful border of Ukraine, For the first time, you tweeted at 11.30 p.m.
		Your time.
		This war and suffering could have easily been avoided if Biden administration slash NATO had simply acknowledged Russia's legitimate...
		Legitimate security concerns regarding Ukraine's becoming a member of NATO. Did you say that, yes or no?
		I believe you're reading my tweet, Senator.
		Yes, is the answer.
		A few months later, you said on your podcast, and I quoted it, quote, but this regime change war against Russia that the U.S. and NATO are waging via their proxy in Ukraine didn't begin when Putin invaded Ukraine.
		They had their eyes set on this objective long before that.
		Did you say that, yes or no?
		I believe you're reading my tweet.
		Thank you.
		The answer is yes.
michael bennet ▲ ● ▼		You are agreeing that you basically said that Putin was justified in rolling over the peaceful border of Ukraine the first time since World War II that a free nation had been invaded by a totalitarian state, and you were there at 11.30 p.m.
unidentified		that night.
unidentified		To say that you are with them, not us.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		If you see, you're with them, not us.
		Who is us?
		Bennett, the blood on your hands, bro.
		I know you're, I don't know, school district superintendent or something out of Colorado.
		Look at what she said there.
		What she said is absolutely 1,000% correct.
		Not, you know, not 999, 1,000% correct.
		Look at what Ukraine is today.
		Exactly what we told you was going to happen, and now Bennett and all these guys want to run.
		Or they want to throw some more money in, but they basically run.
		And you're going to sit there.
		The thing that got me, if you watch historical documentaries, that's like the Nazi judges back in the 30s haranguing, haranguing the resistance people they would pick up.
		You know, they wouldn't let them, they'd take their belts off and put oversized pants in.
		They'd try everything to do to humiliate them in front of people.
		And then these Nazi judges, just like Bennett, haranguing, haranguing, haranguing.
		Who are you, dude?
		Some goofball from Colorado?
		You're going to harangue her?
		202-224-3121.
		If you don't think we need Tulsi Gabbard, you are mistaken.
		We need Tulsi Gabbard.
		Big league.
		That was pure calm before the storm.
		That was centered.
		Unflappable.
		And they came at her hard.
		They may hate her.
		It's interesting.
		They may hate her more than they hate all the rest of them.
		There's something about Tulsi Gabbard that triggers them, that triggers a weasel like Bennett.
		Look at that.
		Is that disgraceful?
		That's the beta male.
		That's the Democratic Party beta mail right there.
		You see it.
		Can't stand up to anything in real life, but man, you give him a gavel, you put him behind, you give him a desk, give him a nameplate, give him a title.
		He's a senator from Colorado.
		He's not a little Weasley, I don't know, school board district chairman or school board superintendent.
		He's not Superintendent Bennett.
		He's a United States senator.
		He's going to let her know he's just a Nazi judge.
		This all has to be purged, folks.
		Has to be.
		We're not a constitutional republic if we don't.
		They see the end of it all.
		That's why it's so vicious.
		That's why they're striking out so hard.
		When I say the end of it all, it's going to take years.
		But they are now starting to realize how it could end if we are relentless and determined and focused.
		That's the question.
		That's the big question before us today.
		That's what Tulsi Gabbard stands for.
		That's what Kennedy stands for and Kash Patel stands for.
		They're now...
		It's not just the people themselves.
		It's symbolic.
		It's the reason we have to have them.
		It's not a choice.
		We have to have them.
		We must have them.
		And we will have them.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Tej Gill is with us.
		Tej, by the way, Harnwell is going to be at the top of the hour, Jack Posobiec.
		We're going to have more to go through.
		Once again, Tulsi Gabbard, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Kash Patel.
		That is the work before us today, obviously.
		We have to get Tulsi over the hump.
		If Grace can put up the Senate Intel Committee, I'll maybe do that in the next hour.
		Let's get that in the live chat.
		Let's get that everywhere.
		The people you should be calling today.
		And work them.
		And work them hard.
		This one is a no-brainer.
		Look at her grace and presence.
		The other day.
		Just amazing.
		And she will do an amazing job.
		You know why I know she'll do an amazing job?
		The people that have destroyed this country hate her.
		So just her being there is going to be, you're three quarters of the way to a great job.
		And remember, weasels like Bennett.
		This is why these guys are so dangerous.
		All these beta males, they can't do anything in real life.
		You give them a little power.
		You give them a little taste of power.
		This is kind of how the Nazis were just saying, go look at them.
		Does Himmler look like a, does he look like an alpha male?
		Don't think so.
		Hitler, alpha male, don't think so.
		These guys look like, those guys look like alpha males, don't think so.
		Kind of like the, you know, Hess kind of reminds me of Bennett.
		Just saying.
		Go back and read it.
		Go back and study it.
		They weren't really alpha males in a thing called the real world.
		Give them a little power.
		Get a little taste of power.
		You see what happens.
		Bad things happen.
		80th anniversary of Auschwitz.
		And Auschwitz is just not simply about the Jews.
		It's everything.
		It's the gypsies.
		It's the Catholics.
		The priests.
		The Poles.
		All of it.
		Give them a little power.
		That's what it's going to do.
		You don't think Bennett, look at him.
		He's like a Nazi judge.
		You don't think if they had the option...
		If we, the option, be sending her a witness, get them off, go to the gulag.
		That's what they did.
		This is how they ran the deal.
		This is why the FBI was the American Gestapo.
		I don't take pride in saying that.
		When I was a kid in the parish, little St. Paul's parish, the most revered, weren't the doctors and the lawyers, the revered guys were the couple of dads that were FBI agents.
		Because you had a lot of mix, you had to be a lawyer and accountant.
		Had a lot of Irish there, a lot of hammerheads.
		They were the revered guys, they were FBI, part of Hoover's FBI. Revered.
		Yep.
		It's interesting that the modern FBI went after, when they say the Richmond office, no, they went after Steve Bannon's parents.
		Traditional Latin mass, tiny parish.
	That was started because the bishop allowed the Latin Mass to be said, and all the people in the Latin Mass came together.
	They had a tiny little parish, and they had some of the Benedictine monks at the military school where I went over there and started part-time to do it.
	And they came from all over.
	And these were the deplorables.
	This was the blue collar of the blue collar.
	The families that had, you know, eight and nine kids, like the old Catholic families, the throwbacks.
	And had the kids that all served in the military and some that went to the Naval Academy and some that went to West Point.
	It is the epitome, the manifestation of the best in this country.
	People had nothing material.
	You could tell the kids all had hand-me-downs, but they had something more than the billionaires' families and the billionaires' kids.
	I've seen the rich and I've seen the working class poor.
	And what those...
	Family's got in that parish you can't replace.
	There's not enough gold on earth to replace it.
	It's everything.
	It's everything.
	It's everything that's good in this country.
	I've seen all the wealthy kids and all the wealthy families and all the madness there.
	And what does the FBI do?
	They wrote reports.
	They looked at that.
	That's white supremacy.
	That's white nationalism.
	That's disruptive.
	That's how evil, the deepness in the evil, it's evil what was in the building.
	That's why that building, no cash, it's not a museum to the deep state.
	You're just wrong there, sir.
	That building, which is brutalist architecture, it is such a scar on Pennsylvania Avenue.
	It has to be taken apart brick by brick.
	And the earth salted around it like Carthage.
	And nothing ever again ever put there.
	As a memorial to what was allowed to take place in the late 20th and early 21st century.
	Forever.
	Nothing could ever be built there.
	And just a small plaque in the middle to remind people that both political parties and the American people And to have these things in Hollywood with FBI shows, first thing I told kids, you've got to go to Hollywood.
	First thing is take all the intellectual property.
	It's a disgrace.
	You have these shows and these people are all like superheroes.
	No, no, no.
	They're evil.
	It's evil.
	It's evil.
	When I'm in prison and you have these, the holiest people, the nicest people you will ever meet for praying the rosary.
	Outside of an abortion mill.
	And you get five years in a federal prison.
	And the way they were rousted and jackbooted and kicked down their doors and intimidate their families and intimidate their little children so that psychological scar is always there.
	And you want mercy?
	You will not get mercy.
	I'm sorry.
	You will get justice.
	Yep.
	Unleavened with mercy.
	Accountability and justice.
	You must.
	It must happen.
	This republic, we can never get this.
	We can't get onto the road to the constitutionality.
	You can't get onto the road of what the framers and the revolutionary generation had in mind until that is done.
	And that's why it must be done.
	It's not Trump.
	Not about Trump.
	It's about something far deeper.
	It's what Trump is for the ages.
	Yep.
	Very imperfect.
	A very imperfect instrument.
	And it's the imperfections that highlight the greatness.
	It's where we are.
	And we're not backing off this at all.
	If they think we're going to back off, they're mistaken.
	This has to play out to its logical conclusion.
	That's what trumps on the hero's journey.
	Yep.
	Speaking of the hero's journey, the right stuff.
	What a way to end.
	I got some pretty big heroes on the other side.
	Taze Gill, Jack Posovic, the one and only Ben Harnwell.

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