Feb. 1, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| It's a new reporting that has broken since we've been on the air. | ||
| It's something we've covered for years on this program, and it's happening. | ||
| It can only be described as the start of a massive, much larger-than-expected purge at the FBI of FBI agents and officials. | ||
| Many of them, in one way or another, touched the investigations into Donald Trump. | ||
| Sources telling NBC News this, the Office of Acting Deputy Attorney General Emil Bobé asked the FBI for a list of bureau employees involved in January 6 cases, sparking panic inside the bureau by people who fear retribution by the Trump administration amidst an ongoing purge of FBI leadership. | ||
| Meanwhile, my colleague, NBC's Ken Delaney, reports that several top FBI executives were told to resign or be fired, and that the purge includes more than 20 heads of FBI field offices, including those in Miami and Washington, D.C. Yeah, this is something I've been sort of chasing all day, | ||
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and it's tough because there's so many rumors and a lot of worry being spread within the Justice Department, within the FBI. So there's this community, obviously, of all of these people who work these January 6th cases on the FBI. On the FBI side, on the DOJ side. | |
| And so what we can report is that there was this request for this, you know, list of all these individuals who worked on January 6th cases, and that that's something that the Washington Field Office has cooperated with thus far. | ||
| You know, the issue here is that it's such a large list, and so the question is, how are they going to figure out who they're going to be focused on and potentially targeting here, right? | ||
| Because it's just so many people within the Bureau. | ||
| Bureau. | ||
| This was the largest investigation in FBI history in terms of number of defendants. | ||
| You're talking about over 1,500 defendants overall. | ||
| And this can't touch basically every field office in the country. | ||
| And, you know, some field offices were a lot more enthusiastic about these cases, frankly, than than others, because there was a lot of skepticism about these cases within the Bureau. | ||
| And, you know, there was some, I think, tension between the FBI and DOJ and the Washington field office and other field offices across the country over the handling of these cases overall. | ||
| I think there's a span of this, right? | ||
| Because there are people who were very vaguely involved in, at one point, one January 6th case, and then there's people who were really in the weeds, and January 6th was their main focus. | ||
| And I think those are the people who probably have the most to worry about in the coming days over whether or not they're basically just going to be fired or targeted based on what we've seen at headquarters thus far and coming out of the Justice Department so far. | ||
| But if you were to go after everybody who touched a January 6 case, I mean, I had one former official say that would be like three-fourths of the Bureau, basically, because a lot of people were involved with this on one stage. | ||
| And remember, those cases range from those very low-level cases, sort of those misdemeanor cases that... | ||
| We're of the most controversy, all the way up to seditious conspiracy. | ||
| But the more common one was those assault on a federal officer charges that were really common, those AFO charges. | ||
| And even people who were skeptical of the Justice Department's handling of those overall were behind those cases. | ||
| And I think most of the American public would be, too. | ||
| When you have a cop getting beat by a rioter, that's something that most people say that should be something that's prosecuted by the federal government. | ||
| So I think the devil, I mean, the details are really going to matter here. | ||
| about who they end up focusing on, Nicole, as they go about sort of this ongoing purge of FBI leadership, and we'll see how far it's going to trickle down into the rank and file of the FBI. When you're talking about the scope of this, right, in every field office, you know, when you do an arrest, for example, that's a lot of people who are just involved in that arrest directly, right? | ||
| So, you know, there might be somebody who's actually handling this case, who's actually championing one case going forward. | ||
| But then when you actually go to execute that arrest, you need a bunch of officials involved in that. | ||
| So then, you know, when you're talking about the paperwork here, there's a lot of names on a lot of these documents. | ||
| You're talking about the intelligence analysts who might have been involved with it as well, because obviously everything has to be turned over in discovery. | ||
| So those are all names that would be required to be turned over to defense attorneys on this. | ||
| And when, you know, for example, let's take the case, one of the only ongoing cases involving a January 6th defendant who actually was convicted of plotting to murder FBI agents who investigated him. | ||
| And that was a jury in Tennessee that convicted him of that separately. | ||
| That case is still ongoing, although his defense attorney is representing that Donald Trump's pardon should apply to that conduct as well, even though that was conduct that was performed way after January 6th when he plotted to murder the FBI employees. | ||
| But that case, for example, just comes to mind because that involved, I remember, a large number of FBI employees. | ||
| And when they turned over those documents, it was a lot of names. | ||
| That were associated with that, because in the discovery process, you've got to turn all those names over. | ||
| So even if there's only sort of the passing involvement in one of these cases, your name is going to be on those documents. | ||
| So that list of people who were involved in January 6th cases at the FBI is really long. | ||
| He wanted to turn the FBI into a deep state museum. | ||
| If he wanted to do that, one of the steps you might consider is eliminating, quote, three-fourths of the Bureau that touched January 6th cases. | ||
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Yeah, that would certainly help, wouldn't it? | |
| And the timing is a little strange when Battelle hasn't been confirmed. | ||
| But look, just start with breadth. | ||
| It is everything that Ryan says. | ||
| So if it's not three quarters, let's say it's just half. | ||
| But remember, 1,500 people, they are still looking for some of them. | ||
| So the possibility for one agency or another to be tagged with serving a warrant or interviewing a witness to try to find out all over the country. | ||
| With this investigation, the largest in DOJ history is extreme. | ||
| And, by the way, if it's anything like this, the implications for us, for citizens of 20 special agents in charge being eliminated, all the things they do, public corruption for starters, but street crime, everything, so the real, it's a body blow. | ||
| To everybody in the country, but I really want to say, even if the breadth were much smaller, as it seems to be in DOJ, a single agent. | ||
| Being fired because he or she did their job as they were supposed to do, and in fact here under the direction of the Department of Justice, is just a complete stake in the heart of what the FBI and DOJ are supposed to be about. | ||
| And it has, it's not just those who get hurt, as Ryan reported, and I've spoken to people already. | ||
| Within the FBI, people are alarmed, completely nervous, wondering what to do. | ||
| So you have a whole workforce, even if it weren't half the FBI involved, that is completely sort of frozen and paralyzed. | ||
| This is so short-sighted and so damaging for public justice in general. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| Israel's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| It's Friday, 31 January, year of our Lord, 2025. This is why you've got to take in four hours of war room, and even then it's not enough. | ||
| Massively breaking news. | ||
| Across the board, we're about to drop 25% tariffs on both Canada and Mexico. | ||
| The Army, I think, is refusing to release the name of the pilot of the Black Hawk helicopter. | ||
| Jack Pessoa, we're going to try to get him by phone. | ||
| I believe they're working on a proposal to cut all funding for Ukraine, everything, stop it full on. | ||
| So there's about a half a dozen major things in the works right now. | ||
| The biggest, though, and kind of a blockbuster breathtaking, the Trump administration, through Emma Bovee, one of President Trump's lawyers who now is number three in the Justice Department, is going like a sith through grass at the FBI. Headquarters, field offices, all of it, related to January 6th investigation. | ||
| I want to bring in Julie Kelly by phone because it's breaking news. | ||
| We had a tough time tracking her down, but Julie stepped out of what she's doing to join us. | ||
| Julie, you have covered this for, I don't know, four years. | ||
| Tell me your thoughts when you see, I mean, this is actually bigger than we thought, earlier than we thought. | ||
| There was no studies, no commissions, no thinking about it. | ||
| Basically went through and said, you out, you out, you out. | ||
| And MSNBC, New York Times are in full... | ||
| Meltdown, ma'am. | ||
| I mean, this is the sort of thing I would dream about when I was covering J6 court proceedings and watching some of these FBI agents testify and lie, withhold evidence, make things up on the stand, get away with it. | ||
| And of course, dating back to some of my coverage on Crossfire Hurricane, which I covered that as well. | ||
| Or seeing what was happening in both of the two indictments against President Trump. | ||
| This is a dream. | ||
| It's like a fantasy. | ||
| It's hard to believe that it's actually happening. | ||
| And yes, I have to commend Emil Boves, the president's attorney who represented him in both a documents case in Florida and Alvin Bragg's case in New York. | ||
| He has seen up close and personal the corruption of the DOJ and the FBI. And he is not wasting any time, none of them are, encouraging the FBI, not just of, you know, top officials on the seventh floor of the building, but it looks like the purge extends to at least 20 FBI field offices, including Miami, which of course participated in the armed nine-hour raid of Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| So I have a feeling this is just a start. | ||
| But the idea that FBI agents and investigators are panicked across the country, good. | ||
| Because that's exactly what you've done to Americans, especially January 6th defendants, for four years. | ||
| And now it's time for you to feel the pressure. | ||
| I want to go with Ken Delanian of NBC News. | ||
| He's their Justice Department, as you know. | ||
| You've gone up against him. | ||
| He's kind of a comms director. | ||
| He's kind of the spokesmodel for the FBI. He tweeted, I think last night, several top FBI executives promoted by Director Christopher Wray were told today to resign or retire and told they will be demoted or reassigned if they don't leave. | ||
| And then he just updated it. | ||
| The purge is bigger than first understood, we are told, and includes more than 20 heads of FBI field officers, including ones in Miami and Washington, D.C. Go back. | ||
| You've followed this for years. | ||
| What's the problem with the FBI regarding this specific investigation, ma'am? | ||
| So, it does involve, it appears the reporting... | ||
| It says that it also involves agents who were involved in the January 6th investigation and prosecution. | ||
| And, Steve, this is something that FBI Director Christopher Wray often bragged about, that the J-6 investigation was the largest criminal investigation in DOJ history, and that every single one of the 56 field offices across the country were involved in what was considered a domestic terror investigation and prosecution. | ||
| So contrary to what we heard, and very much respect Senator Grassley, but the idea that the rot at the FBI is only contained to top FBI headquarters is simply not true. | ||
| Because you had armed agents terrorizing families and communities across this country with pre-dawn armed raids, dragging people out of their homes, using bullhorns outside of their homes. | ||
| 6 a.m. | ||
| If you take a stand, right, and put everyone on notice, this is what is going to happen if you come up against this regime and interrogating these people, violating their constitutional rights, dragging them in some cases over to the D.C. Gulag where they were held and denied relief. | ||
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This is what the FBI has been doing for four years. | |
| And, of course, we know what they've done. | ||
| to President Trump and his associates and his lawyers. | ||
| So now they're paying the price. | ||
| And I hope this is just the beginning of the purge, but also represents the start of full investigation and holding these FBI agents and these prosecutors liable for what they've done. | ||
| Julie, can you hang on one second? | ||
| I just want to hold you through a short commercial break. | ||
| Rahim Kwasam is going to join us. | ||
| Hopefully, I think we've tracked down Jack Posobiec. | ||
| We've got Philip Patrick from Birch Gold. | ||
| President Trump's throwing down on the bricks. | ||
| Natalie's going to join us top of the hour from the White House to get response to all this other inside scoops. | ||
| We're also going to talk about the Chinese Communist Party, not just TikTok, not just what else they're doing to technology with deep. | ||
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Seek. | |
| Also, they're building the world's largest military headquarters. | ||
| Don't know why they're doing that. | ||
| We want peace and prosperity, right? | ||
| All of it today in the war room. | ||
| We'll probably have a lot of other breaking news. | ||
| On a Friday afternoon, the White House is on fire. | ||
| Pretty amazing. | ||
| John Kahn. | ||
| John Kahn, who lost his house in Pacific Palisades, is now Just Ash, made this amazing song. | ||
| The theme for the Tea Party, American Heart. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to return with more updates on the purge of the senior leadership of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. | |
| Okay, we may go to the presence. | ||
| I think leaving is going to, Real America's Voice has got a camera on the lawn as the president heads to Marine One. | ||
| And if he says anything, we're going to jump right to it. | ||
| Julie Kelly, this major purge. | ||
| Emil Boe, one of the president's lawyers, number three in the Justice Department. | ||
| He doesn't need to be confirmed. | ||
| He's over there kind of running the place before Pam Bondi. | ||
| Is he up? | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Let's go ahead. | ||
| Do we have a audio? | ||
| Let's just do a split screen. | ||
| So Julie, there's the president heading out. | ||
| Julie, talk to me about, and Poso's going to join us in a minute. | ||
| I think we don't have it in Denver yet, but Julie, Poso, as Jack Posobiec is always succinct and to the point, he's got Nicole Wallace in that cold open we just showed you, the opening where she gets teared up and talks about how big this That's right. | ||
| That's where we are. | ||
| Go ahead, ma'am. | ||
| They never saw this coming. | ||
| I mean, they had reports after Donald Trump won. | ||
| Merrick Garland, everyone at DOJ, shocked. | ||
| People were crying. | ||
| FBI agents were preparing their resumes. | ||
| Prosecutors were dialing for defense attorneys because they know what they've done. | ||
| And there will be a voluminous paper trail. | ||
| We already saw some of it. | ||
| Senator Grassley talked yesterday about the opening of the investigation into President Trump for January 6th and allegedly overturning the 2020 election. | ||
| So Cash is going to have his hands full, but he's going to have a lot of help, and he's going to have a lot fewer obstacles. | ||
| And I think that this is clearing the brush. | ||
| And moving aside the human barrier that is so entrenched in the FBI, preventing Cash and his team from accessing all the evidence that they need to potentially bring criminal charges against some of these agents, investigators, and prosecutors. | ||
| Julie, speaking of Cash Patel, you saw yesterday they were coming after him, even some of the Republicans, but the Democrats are off the chain. | ||
| The boldness of doing this before he's even had the committee hearing, much less the vote on the floor, because I anticipate a firestorm of the Democrats. | ||
| I'd be very surprised they didn't go to the sticks here in the next half hour to hour to condemn this. | ||
| Your thoughts, ma'am? | ||
| They absolutely will, because they're already portraying this as, of course, retaliation and retribution. | ||
| These are career civil servants. | ||
| We can't get rid of these people. | ||
| They work on national security. | ||
| They keep our country safe. | ||
| Et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| No, they're not. | ||
| They have spent four years with Joint Terrorism Task Force, which now has also been reconfigured, and the priority will be actually going after terrorists, not a 60-year-old grandmother from Florida who walked in the Capitol. | ||
| So they are, of course, going to portray it as revenge and retaliation. | ||
| But again, I really do think this is a way for Imo Bov and others at the Department, James McHenry, who is the Acting Attorney General. | ||
| To clear the brush, get rid of these corrupt individuals who are there as a bulwark against reform and accountability. | ||
| So at least Cash, when he is confirmed, won't have to take those steps. | ||
| They are being taken for him. | ||
| And then he could stay focused on what most Americans want. | ||
| And that is a major overhaul of the FBI and Department of Justice reorganizing its priorities. | ||
| Shutting down offices where necessary and, you know, again, purging it of the people who have completely decimated the American People's Trust in the once most trusted institution in America. | ||
| Talk to me about the Justice Department overall. | ||
| Emil is also at work on the U.S. attorneys and some of the offices that have been most problematic, and also at Maine Justice. | ||
| Is he not, ma'am? | ||
| Correct. | ||
| So, first of all, Ed Martin, who is a longtime conservative activist, he was appointed acting DCOS attorney. | ||
| He is wasting no time. | ||
| He opened an internal inquiry, and I have a report on my sub-stack on this. | ||
| ...into charging decisions on that 1512C2 that was reversed by the Supreme Court in June, nonetheless, used against 350 J6ers. | ||
| At least 100 went to prison for convictions of 1512C2. Sorry, my dogs are going crazy. | ||
| So he launched an internal inquiry into that, but also emailed both moving corrupt prosecutors at DOJ. Moving them to a newly formed unit, the Sanctuary Cities Enforcement Unit, | ||
| taking them out of Maine Justice, where they did political dirty work of the Democrats, moving them to the Sanctuary Cities Enforcement Unit, where they were going to have to confront local and state officials denying and violating federal immigration law. | ||
| At least one person, Corey Edmundson, I think is how you say his last name, Who was reassigned to this unit, he quit. | ||
| Instead of actually doing work on enforcing the nation's laws like prosecutors are supposed to do, he threw a little hissy fit and quit, which is kind of one way to get rid of them. | ||
| But then Emo Bowes yesterday, as I said, opened this investigation into a Thompson's County Sheriff who was clouding a federal warrant for an illegal immigrant who has entered this country legally five times and committed at least one other crime. | ||
| So the DOJ is investigating that sheriff, but also he told a conference call yesterday with all 93 U.S. attorneys, some who have already been replaced, but also notifying them that line prosecutors also will be deployed to the border to enforce immigration law. | ||
| Julie Kelly, big day. | ||
| Pay off a lot of work of yours. | ||
| Where do people go to get all your Substack, all your writings, social media, all of it? | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| What an amazing two weeks, but what a tremendous day. | ||
| All my work can be found at my Substack, declassified with Julie Kelly, and then, of course, post a lot of breaking news. | ||
| I'll be watching this over the weekend as well. | ||
| Julie underscore Kelly, too. | ||
| Julie, thank you very much. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| Talk to you soon. | ||
| Rahim Ghazan, put this in perspective. | ||
| This is just not done. | ||
| Folks got to understand, if one of these had been done in justice in a term, this was a big deal. | ||
| None of this got done. | ||
| The opposite got done in the Justice Department in the first term in Trump 45. FBI was untouchable. | ||
| For people that know how the deep state and the administrative state work, what has happened this afternoon is nothing short of shocking. | ||
| And you're going to see blowback here. | ||
| That's going to be pretty intense. | ||
| Rahim Kassam, your thoughts and observations. | ||
| Yeah, Steve, good afternoon and good afternoon to the Warren Posse. | ||
| I think, like you say, the unprecedented nature of this is what's really rocking Washington, D.C. to its core. | ||
| This evening, a lot of these people have gone through their lives thinking themselves as made men, right, in a very mafioso sense of the word, and that is becoming undone in front of their eyes. | ||
| I think there is an element of this to consider as well, that this is the first step. | ||
| If you go in this hard, what you're showing is that you're going to clear house entirely. | ||
| Because these are some of the most senior people we're talking about. | ||
| It's some of the people who are in charge of the persecution against President Trump over the last four years. | ||
| And these are people who fundamentally thought that they would be shielded, masked, kept even anonymous from the world's perspective and the world's scrutiny because they really didn't think that President Trump would win a second term. | ||
| They thought they had all the tricks and tips in their book in order to keep him out for another time. | ||
| And now the chickens are coming home to roost. | ||
| I think, you know, again, I've said this pretty much every day since the beginning of this administration. | ||
| Is that they are going further and faster than anybody had possibly imagined? | ||
| I would include myself in that. | ||
| Perhaps in my greatest dreams in the world, we'd end up in this situation. | ||
| But you do end up in your mind compromising. | ||
| You do end up thinking, okay, there are going to be things they can do and can't do. | ||
| But this really goes to show that the next 18, 24 months for the globalists, for the far left, for the entrenched political class in Washington DC is going to be a meltdown, the likes of which we have never seen. | ||
| All the fun that was had in 2016, all the screaming video memes, all of the mashups of Maddow, all of that will look like nothing in comparison to what's coming. | ||
| Let's talk about Trump and making those decisions. | ||
| I mean, even the people around here, they always... | ||
| Talk about caution. | ||
| This is bold. | ||
| And this is sending a signal, as you said, that the purge here is going to go much deeper if this is day one. | ||
| And cash is not even at a committee. | ||
| This is what I love about this. | ||
| This is a throwdown. | ||
| And this is Trump sending a signal to Capitol Hill. | ||
| I'm in charge. | ||
| This is the executive branch. | ||
| I'm in charge. | ||
| Your thoughts? | ||
| Yeah, now I do think it's also related to what we saw yesterday, especially in that committee, which was Kash Patel absolutely spanking them over and over again. | ||
| I mean, even with kind of pithy one-word ripostes in the moment, I was glued to my television because, you know, people don't usually go to those committee hearings being just so open and so honest and so upfront about who they are and what they've done in their lives. | ||
| You know, everybody likes this kind of like, you know, a little... | ||
| I'm going to take you over here. | ||
| I'm going to take you over there. | ||
| But Cash was just very upfront. | ||
| And he was upfront on the questions of the last election as well. | ||
| He refused to bow to their attempted struggle session up there. | ||
| And I think what this is today, what you've seen is President Trump going, hey, what you saw yesterday was an appetizer. | ||
| Here's your main course. | ||
| I can't wait for dessert. | ||
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Thank you, brother. | |
| Talk to you after the show. | ||
| Raheem Kassam on watch. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| Philip Patrick and hopefully Jack Posobiec. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Jack Posobiec. | ||
| We're trying to get Jack Posobiec up and we're trying to track him down. | ||
| We'll get to a moment. | ||
| This is all breaking news. | ||
| Natalie Winters is at the White House, and Natalie has just sent me another blockbuster piece of news. | ||
| I'm going to read it to you as it comes across the wire. | ||
| Anyway, they've just announced they've fired. | ||
| President Trump has terminated all the J6 prosecutors from the U.S. Attorney's Office in D.C. I mean, this is a massive piece of news. | ||
| They've just... | ||
| They've just fired all J-6 federal prosecutors in Washington, D.C.'s U.S. Attorney's Office. | ||
| She's going to be with us at 6 o'clock, plus there's so much other stuff going on. | ||
| Let me go to, we're going to get Poso up in a second. | ||
| A big kind of resistance out of the U.S. Army about the pilot. | ||
| Also more on J-6 and on particularly the Federal Bureau of Investigation. | ||
| Major purge today. | ||
| At the FBI, the mainstream media is in full and total and complete meltdown on this. | ||
| I think you're going to see a press conference by the Democrats before too long. | ||
| The boldness of this, I think President Trump saw the way Cash was treated yesterday at the hearing and Cash's pushback. | ||
| And I think he put a shot across the bow of the committee. | ||
| A little bit, hey, I dare you not to vote for Cash. | ||
| I mean, this is bold. | ||
| Like I said, in the way Washington works, you remove one field office, that's huge. | ||
| Or one of the senior prosecutors in the Justice Department, huge. | ||
| Takes forever, huge. | ||
| This is, I mean, massive and impressive. | ||
| And there's more of this to come, but if they didn't think he was going to deconstruct the administrative state and take down the deep state, I think Donald John Trump, before he ends the second week of his second term, has sent a signal. | ||
| To the imperial capital. | ||
| He is not messing around. | ||
| As he says, he's so fond of saying, we're not playing games here. | ||
| No games. | ||
| A couple other things, there's no games. | ||
| Philip Patrick joins philipbirchgold.com slash bandit. | ||
| You have to read the, get to the end of the dollar empire. | ||
| And you have to read modern monetary theory, the idea that broke the world. | ||
| Phillip, we've got a special announcement. | ||
| We're going to talk about what we've done there because it's so important. | ||
| Tomorrow morning, or tonight at midnight, Phillip, unless there's a bump, and I heard there may be some bump to March as there's some negotiations going on, some intense negotiations, but he intends to put 25% tariffs on Mexico and 25% tariffs on Canada. | ||
| I mean, this is a new economic model where you're saying, hey, we're the golden market. | ||
| I'm not putting a tariff on a tomato or an avocado. | ||
| I'm going to do it across the board because you're going to have to pay a premium price to get access to this market. | ||
| Your thoughts on this, the kind of new economic model of President Trump, driven by duties, fees, and tariffs, sir? | ||
| Listen, I think enforcing tariffs... | ||
| Creating new tariffs is going to be very important, right? | ||
| We have to balance trade deficits. | ||
| We have to ensure equitable contributions from foreign entities that are benefiting from U.S. economic or military support and basically use tariffs to ensure a mechanism for fair trade. | ||
| We have to understand, and I know you do well, the scale of the problem, right? | ||
| So let's look at best-case scenario with tariffs. | ||
| Assuming no changes in imports, 10% global tariff on everything, 25% tariff on Canadian and Mexican goods, that generates about $520 billion a year. | ||
| Now, let's add a 60% tariff on everything coming in from China. | ||
| That's another $300 billion a year. | ||
| So a total of $820 billion. | ||
| Now, that's a huge amount of money and would do something in sort of closing the deficit. | ||
| But, you know, we also have to factor in that there is a downside to tariffs. | ||
| First of all, as we know, they raise consumer prices, right? | ||
| No way around that. | ||
| But the bigger problem, I think, with tariffs is regarding revenue generation, right, is that they lead to retaliation. | ||
| Since World War II, the global economy has become very intertwined. | ||
| So look at some of the tariffs that Trump put on China back in 2016, right? | ||
| They led to retaliation that affected the American farming industry. | ||
| And essentially, for every dollar we generated in revenue, we ended up giving back 90 cents in terms of subsidies. | ||
| As a revenue generator, they're not that big. | ||
| What they are very effective at is boosting domestic manufacturing. | ||
| That, really effective. | ||
| The tariffs that Trump put on China back in 2016 led to a huge increase in factory construction here in the United States, up about 250 percent. | ||
| The problem being, that's a long-term plan, right? | ||
| That took seven to ten years. | ||
| I'm getting a little bit concerned that we're not going to be capable of collecting enough revenue without severe consequences for consumer prices or for global trade. | ||
| And it all boils down to the ability to maintain deficit spending. | ||
| So listen, it's encouraging and it's a reflection of the position we're in. | ||
| They'll generate some revenue, but they're not going to plug that gap. | ||
| And that's what we need to do right now. | ||
| Hey, Philip, birchgold.com slash Bannon, end of the dollar empire. | ||
| Also, how do you invest in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump, in the Trump second term? | ||
| Philip, hang on one second, because I got posted by phone and he's got to bounce. | ||
| Jack, purge of the FBI, purge going on on the J6 prosecutors in the D.C. office. | ||
| All of them are terminated as of today. | ||
| Your thoughts, sir? | ||
| Well, Steve, the only thing that comes to mind first is you come at the king, you best not miss. | ||
| Look, this is something that President Trump promised that he would do every single step of the way on this campaign, every single campaign stop he did, every single interview he did. | ||
| He said that he will end the lawfare. | ||
| And ending the lawfare does not necessarily just mean that you're going to post... | ||
| Strongly worded letters or trying to reform things or trying to pass a new policy. | ||
| It means personnel. | ||
| Personnel is policy. | ||
| And so the politicization ends by getting rid of it. | ||
| Politicized it in the first place. | ||
| It's as simple as that. | ||
| And anyone who touched these cases or participated in this is going to be completely tainted by it and has already been completely tainted. | ||
| So what he's doing is he's removing the problem to restore the confidence of the FBI in the American people because of this process, which was completely voted for. | ||
| By the American voter, this process of reforming these institutions, which is the change agenda that President Trump promised the American people, it must be done because this was the will of the people. | ||
| Everyone remembers that it was the raid on Mar-a-Lago that completely changed the trajectory of the race. | ||
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| It was the lawfare that changed the trajectory of the race. | ||
| He was way ahead even before the assassination attempt. | ||
| And it was that very persecution of Donald Trump, the man, that led to the assassination attempt in the first place and the second one, by the way, in September. | ||
| This is what the American people voted for, and it's something very simple. | ||
| It's called the Iron Law of Reciprocity. | ||
| I wrote an entire book about this last year. | ||
| That which was done to us must be done back in order to restore the balance. | ||
| That is the basic underpinning of a functioning society and a functioning civilization. | ||
| That you must restore balance. | ||
| One tier of justice. | ||
| Not two tiers. | ||
| Not three tiers. | ||
| One tier. | ||
| And if people have been caught going beyond then, then they need to face the consequences. | ||
| They will not be stopped until they're stopped. | ||
| Talk to me about, you and I were all over these things yesterday, the confirmation. | ||
| Talk to me, because Cash has talked about this. | ||
| They lit him up yesterday. | ||
| He's talked about it for four years. | ||
| He's one of the leaders of this movement, particularly a leader on the deep state side. | ||
| The Government Gangsters, the film, you can go to wormfilms.com right now and check it out, download it, and watch it, and you'll see Cash in action. | ||
| Tell me about the boldness of Trump doing this this afternoon. | ||
| When Cash kind of got lit up yesterday, he fought back hard, but they were lighting him up. | ||
| And they haven't voted. | ||
| The committee itself hasn't voted. | ||
| Forget going to the floor. | ||
| I mean, Schumer and these guys right now have got to be in full, absolute meltdown, Jack Posobiec. | ||
| Well, Steve, that's exactly what's happening. | ||
| Look, those guys, they take all of their marching orders from MSNBC and the brain trust that you see across there. | ||
| So Ken Delaney, and that was the first shot last night that we knew that something was going to be coming. | ||
| But obviously what happened now is bigger than I think even any of them anticipated. | ||
| And so, yes, the Democrats are going to be in free-for-all. | ||
| The Democrats are going to be having wall-to-wall meltdowns, absolute soy eruptions going off across. | ||
| By the way, not just the Democrats. | ||
| In the Congress, the Democrats in the Senate, but the same Democrats and the same liberals that have been appointed in place all across the FBI and all across those officials. | ||
| Look, Miranda Devine had the story an entire year ago in the New York Post about the type of people that Chris Wray was recruiting, the type of people that he was appointing. | ||
| It's just an absolute rogues gallery of the wokest, of the woke, liberals, anti-Trump, anti-MAGA, anti-conservative, and in many cases, even, yes, anti-Catholic, as we saw in communities that are not far from where my Catholic family attends and worships at Mass every single Sunday. | ||
| And so when we see this... | ||
| President Trump is taking decisive action even when I'm sure, I'm sure by the way, those who are a bit more fair-hearted Would not be willing to go forward and do what needs to be done. | ||
| They would say, hold on, Mr. President. | ||
| They'd say, wait, let's get all our ducks in a row. | ||
| And you know what would happen, Steve, just like the president said about these reports that they wait years and years to happen. | ||
| They want to try to slow walking. | ||
| There's been this push. | ||
| And Steve, you and I talked about it a couple of weeks ago. | ||
| They've been trying to go for MAGA light. | ||
| You know, we're going to have MAGA light. | ||
| We're going to do some of these things. | ||
| We're going to secure the border. | ||
| But that's it. | ||
| We're going to secure the border and there's going to be money for AI. We're not going to do any of those other things. | ||
| Well, you know something? | ||
| President Trump just told the entire world that it's not going to be MAGA-like. | ||
| It is going to be full MAGA, the full force of the American people. | ||
| Every single promise that was made on the campaign trail must be kept because that is the sacred oath that he took when he stood up for the vote on November 5th. | ||
| That's what this is about. | ||
| And no, he's not going to stand around waiting. | ||
| For the FBI, look what they did to him in the first administration, not even during the campaign. | ||
| Go back all the way to the first administration. | ||
| All of their work, Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, and I saw you on his show the other day, Michael Flynn lying to him in the confines of the White House itself within the first days of the administration. | ||
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| President Trump is doing absolutely what he needs to do, and he's doing it absolutely when he needed to do it. | ||
| I know you've got to bounce. | ||
| One last thing, though. | ||
| The Army will not release the name of the helicopter pilot. | ||
| When did the Army have the option of not doing that, sir? | ||
| Steve, I'm perplexed on this, and even the New York Times called it unprecedented. | ||
| This is an extraordinary step. | ||
| This is something that, look, this is a soldier who died in the line of duty. | ||
| I'm not familiar with soldiers who die in the line of duty not having their names. | ||
| And furthermore, this is someone who was involved in a major incident that led to an extreme loss of life. | ||
| And we're talking, children were killed here. | ||
| Children were killed in this incident, okay? | ||
| Stars, in some cases, entire families were wiped out. | ||
| And so there's a huge community of people that is trying to figure out what happened, and they do deserve answers. | ||
| Now, I can understand making sure that the family gets informed first, and I can understand that. | ||
| There's a responsibility. | ||
| Look, this is the most transparent administration, and so if the Army's having issues with that, hopefully those can be resolved, because this is something where everyone in the country needs and deserves to know exactly what happened that fateful day. | ||
| Jack Vosobiec, Twitter, where do people go on social media to get you? | ||
| Look, we'll be up on X all night as more news of this continues. | ||
| Of course, Human Events Daily, you get the podcast. | ||
| If you miss anything, you catch it right there. | ||
| Folks, it's going to be flooded with news tonight. | ||
| Get it all over our social media. | ||
| All of us will be up. | ||
| This is going to be an intense night in the imperial capital, and I think throughout the rest of the world as President Trump is going to be dropping some bombs. | ||
| Jack, thank you. | ||
| Talk about other promises. | ||
| Tariffs are coming. | ||
| A new economic model. | ||
| Philip Patrick next. | ||
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| Okay, Philip Patrick Birchko. | ||
| We said times of turbulence. | ||
| These are 25% tariffs. | ||
| And this is not some marginal, folks, this is not some marginal country that we, you know, don't really have a trading relationship with. | ||
| Like even something like Great Britain. | ||
| We don't import a lot. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is Mexico and Canada. | ||
| Only China's bigger. | ||
| So 25% tariffs. | ||
| And look, I'm hearing it might be move 30 days to March, maybe some negotiations. | ||
| But right now, the stroke of midnight, Philip Patrick, 25%. | ||
| And this is a new economic model. | ||
| He doesn't look at tariffs as tariffs. | ||
| He looks at them as external revenue. | ||
| You've made the point about it's for something else, is to bring manufacturing back. | ||
| It's a new economic model, and he's implementing it. | ||
| He's pulling the trigger. | ||
| This is why I say in times of turbulence, people need to look at the alternative of precious metals. | ||
| Just do. | ||
| You're going to need a hedge. | ||
| And you should assume there's 10 other actions that are happening tonight that hopefully we're going to get to in the next hour. | ||
| But President Trump, these are days of thunder. | ||
| He's dropping bomb after bomb after bomb after bomb, sir. | ||
| He is. | ||
| You said in the break, he's a savage, and it's exactly what we need, OK? We've been dealing with the opposite of that for the last four years. | ||
| But listen, tariffs are going to have ripple effects throughout the economy. | ||
| If I'm a Canadian or a Mexican at the moment, I'm worried, right? | ||
| It could send both Canada and Mexico into depression, and they are two of our three biggest trading partners, as you mentioned a moment ago. | ||
| Part of it lies on them, right? | ||
| They're not diversified economically. | ||
| They made a mistake, I think, of creating deep ties with a single trading partner. | ||
| When our needs change, what are we supposed to do? | ||
| Take care of them or take care of ourselves? | ||
| And that's what we're doing. | ||
| It's protectionism and it's what we need to do. | ||
| Now, there's going to be huge ripple effects throughout the global economy. | ||
| I can't even begin to imagine what's going to change. | ||
| That's one major reason I think right now there is unprecedented demand for gold and silver. | ||
| But even those markets are getting affected. | ||
| Leasing costs are going crazy on the back of tariff fears. | ||
| There's concerns now, you know, half of our silver comes from Mexico. | ||
| We could see that alone driving prices up. | ||
| So we're seeing volatility, but it's time we started looking after ourselves. | ||
| And I think we need a new economic model. | ||
| So we'll see how it shapes out. | ||
| We'll see how much revenue we can generate. | ||
| But we need new ideas. | ||
| And now we have them. | ||
| So three or four years ago, when we first started Birch Gold, Philip and I talked through, we said, look, we want to teach the audience or give an access to people that haven't had a chance to maybe go to college and specialize in economics or get a postgraduate degree, MBA, or degree in finance, or somebody that's in finance. | ||
| We want to teach them global capital markets and global economics, so therefore they will understand power better. | ||
| In the end of the dollar empire, I think the second or third free installment was about the bricks. | ||
| And what I'm so proud of this audience, our audience knows so much about the BRICS, and you talk to other people, it's like, what's a BRICS? President Trump knows what it is. | ||
| He put out a True Social last night, folks, and I put it up on Getter. | ||
| It is brutal. | ||
| And if we've talked about this for three years and have trained you guys up, it's about the end of the dollar empire and getting to an alternative BRICS with some sort of gold back. | ||
| President Trump said, yo, I know some BRICS nations, because he's dealing with them all the time. | ||
| He said, yo. | ||
| If you even think about getting off the dollar system, if you think even creating a new currency, 100% tariffs on all your goods. | ||
| Philip Patrick, that is a shot across the bow, is it not, sir? | ||
| It's a shot across the bow, and I'm glad that we're getting that rhetoric. | ||
| The previous administration referred to the BRICS de-dollarizing as a natural desire to diversify. | ||
| They didn't understand the level of the problem. | ||
| President Trump does, right? | ||
| He understands that the BRICS are major exporters, movers and shakers in global trade. | ||
| Any move away from the dollar essentially just reduces American global influence and financial dominance. | ||
| So over the last two years, as we know, BRICS membership have already begun the process of sort of weaning themselves off a dollar, signing bilateral trade deals that bypass the dollar as an intermediary currency. | ||
| And this is where I'm getting a little bit concerned. | ||
| Look, President Trump has to do something, right? | ||
| But where I'm getting a little bit concerned is one third, one in every three of our US dollars that the government borrows comes from foreign nations, right? | ||
| Even after selling off billions of dollars, China's still our number two creditor, right? | ||
| What's becoming clear is that we need more foreign creditors. | ||
| And that's where I wonder the effectiveness of the threats, right? | ||
| When trade wars heat up, in my mind, why would a nation that we're punishing with 25%, 60% or 100% tariffs keep lending us money, right? | ||
| The concern here is that threats simply reinforce the perception that the dollar is a yoke and nations may be better off not wearing it. | ||
| The second side of it, and this is where I think President Trump's really restricted, Biden's dollar weaponization has already caused major moves, right? | ||
| Russia went through a severe recession, and they've come out the other side. | ||
| Why are they going to undo all of that hard work, bilateral trade deals, treaties, building a non-dollar-based global trade network? | ||
| When they know that Trump's only going to be in office for four years. | ||
| Listen, it's taken Russia nine years to decouple from the dollar, essentially since the annexation of Crimea. | ||
| They really don't have an incentive to go back, right? | ||
| In my mind... | ||
| Threats won't do it, right? | ||
| The only thing that will is making the dollar a better choice for trade, and that we're going to have to do by addressing deficits and getting our debt under control. | ||
| So, listen, it's a starting point. | ||
| The administration know how serious an issue it is, but I think the tools we have at this point are limited. | ||
| Where do they go? | ||
| I'm going to talk tomorrow about this new offer we're doing on the Dollar Empire, but people want to talk to you. | ||
| I can tell in the chats they're lit up. | ||
| Where do they go to talk to Philip Patrick and the team about gold as a hedge in times of turbulence, sir? | ||
| It's really simple. | ||
| Birchgold.com forward slash Bannon. | ||
| Again, Birchgold.com forward slash Bannon or Bannon to 989898. That will get them access to all of the free information we put out, end of the dollar empire, and a very good report on how and why to buy gold under a Trump administration. | ||
| So birchgold.com forward slash Bannon. | ||
| Just get the information. | ||
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It's fantastic stuff. | |
| Go to Birch Gold. | ||
| Look for Philip Patrick and the team. | ||
| Birchgold.com slash Bannon. | ||
| What I'm proudest about tonight. | ||
| It's going to light up some tariffs on a new economic model. | ||
| He's talking about BRICS and warning them about the end of the dollar empire. | ||
| You, the audience, have had three or four years now to understand this and join it because of our partnership with Birch Gold. | ||
| Philip Patrick, thank you so much, brother. | ||
| Proud of us. | ||
| Proud of you. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| The right stuff takes us out because that's what we have here in the war room. | ||
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