Jan. 30, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | ||
| Okay, welcome Wednesday, 29 January, Year of the Lord 2025. We are kind of packed this hour, so we're going to get on with it. | ||
| Let's go to the White House. | ||
| Our own Natalie Winters. | ||
| Natalie, another judge has weighed in. | ||
| You've got to help us make sense of this. | ||
| A memo went out last night from OMB or yesterday afternoon saying, hey, all money should stop flowing until we kind of get a handle about where all this cash is going, what funding stopped. | ||
| The left went crazy last night. | ||
| I think there are protesters outside the White House right now. | ||
| You can fill us in. | ||
| Then Caroline Levitt, our own Caroline Levitt, said today, hey, look, we rescinded the memo, but we didn't rescind what the memo meant, and we want all of the agencies to go full stop. | ||
| Now another federal judge has jumped in. | ||
| We got a stay last night from the one in D.C., but that kind of got overridden by today's action, but now we got another. | ||
| They went to court, and a federal judge in Rhode Island has put another stay or TRO on us. | ||
| Make this make sense to us. | ||
| What in the hell is going on? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Well, Steve, I think you were too humble in the last segment, saying that we have a few more sets of eyes on us here in the War Room, I think, since we've gotten our White House press creds. | ||
| I think we were, what, the number one trending story on Twitter for about 24 hours. | ||
| I don't think the mainstream media really likes us being here. | ||
| But all that aside, I think this story is sort of the epitome. | ||
| They know we're going to expose them for the liars that they are. | ||
| If people remember, what did I tell you guys coming out of that press briefing, out of the Stephen Miller press gaggle that I witnessed? | ||
| The number one question on the forefront of everyone in the legacy media was asking about the spending freeze. | ||
| We've really only seen the story escalate, I think, to sort of keep better track of it in everyone's minds. | ||
| There really have been two lawsuits that have sort of been brought against it, one coming from the NGO apparatus world, the other coming from the Democratic, the state AGs. | ||
| So while you're seeing another judge get involved, like you said, this is now a federal judge out of Rhode Island, of course, an Obama appointee. | ||
| His name is... | ||
| John McConnell, I'll read you the quote. | ||
| I'm inclined to grant the restraining order. | ||
| I fear that the administration is acting with a distinction without a difference. | ||
| He's, of course, speaking in reference to Press Secretary Caroline Levitt's statement, where they're saying that they're sort of trying to circumvent the legal withhold or legal pause on the freeze. | ||
| In other words, it's just sort of a de facto freeze by President Trump's not necessarily stroke of the pen, but just the ethos behind the order. | ||
| So they're trying to place... | ||
| Another hold on that. | ||
| That was sort of the lead on Politico before we started this afternoon's show. | ||
| So that's the main story. | ||
| And one last point of news that's happening today. | ||
| Democracy Forward, which is basically that conglomerate of a bunch of resistance groups in concert with, of course, the Mark Eliases of the world. | ||
| They've introduced yet another, I believe it's the third lawsuit to block President Trump's Schedule F executive order. | ||
| The question there's going to be standings. | ||
| That's why they're trying to cover the waterfront. | ||
| I just want to make a point, Natalie, is that for the battles ahead, this has nothing to do with the cuts to these programs. | ||
| This is just a freeze so they can understand where all the cash is going. | ||
| And President Trump is making a point of, hey, I'm getting out of WHO. I'm getting the Green New Deal. | ||
| Why did I read in the Wall Street Journal, the Financial Times? | ||
| The money's still going there. | ||
| I can't get to it. | ||
| This goes back also to the theory. | ||
| That's going to be tested of impoundment. | ||
| So these are huge issues at stake. | ||
| But folks, right now the left is on full warpath. | ||
| Is that protest outside? | ||
| We can hear it, Natalie. | ||
| Is that about the spending freeze that we're hearing right now? | ||
| They're already protesting outside the White House? | ||
| No, to be honest, they're a little underwhelming. | ||
| They're just calling President Trump a fascist and all of his staffers and, of course, myself and Brian Glenn. | ||
| But I guess that's my new commute to work. | ||
| I'll take it. | ||
| I guess they're taking Rachel Maddow's. | ||
| What did she really hone in on? | ||
| What was it last week? | ||
| The idea of shame being a powerful tool. | ||
| I guess that's kind of all that they have. | ||
| But I think it goes back, Steve, frankly, just to the idea. | ||
| I think it's right. | ||
| It's shut down politics. | ||
| Sort of like the Wizard of Oz. | ||
| When you see behind the curtain, you actually realize that a lot of... | ||
| So this integral spending, like sending foreign aid to every country except the United States, is actually not all that integral. | ||
| And when you see that the country can exist without sending billions or trillions of dollars to third-world countries, it sort of defeats the entire business model that this country has run on for a very long time. | ||
| I want you to hang on one second. | ||
| Can we play a couple of clips from Bobby Kennedy? | ||
| I'm very honored to have Mary Holland, the president of Children's Health Defense here. | ||
| We're going to play a couple of clips from Bobby Kennedy and then talk to her. | ||
| Natalie, hang on, because I want your response, too. | ||
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Thanks. | |
| One, if you want to move from advocacy to public responsibility, Americans are going to need to hear a clear and trustworthy recantation of what you have said Americans are going to need to hear a clear and trustworthy recantation of | ||
| what you have said on vaccinations, including a promise from you never to say vaccines including a promise from you never to say vaccines aren't medically safe when they in fact are, and You're in that hole pretty deep. | ||
| I We've just had a measles case in Rhode Island. | ||
| The first since 2013. And frankly, you frighten people. | ||
| All day long, they're drilling Bobby Kennedy. | ||
| Bobby Kennedy is absolutely essential to make America healthy again. | ||
| You've worked with this guy for a long time. | ||
| Number one. | ||
| Do you think they got to him today, rattled him, and do you think he comes out as strong as he walked in as far as the ability to get confirmed? | ||
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Yes. | |
| I think that they did not rattle him. | ||
| He's very used to this. | ||
| This is nearly 20 years of this stuff. | ||
| And the betting markets were up about 30%. | ||
| After his confirmation hearing today. | ||
| Why was that? | ||
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I think he showed himself very calm and composed under pressure. | |
| I think the... | ||
| Because he pulled his punches. | ||
| You know, Megyn Kelly and I wanted to be a little more aggressive. | ||
| We're naturally crazy Irishmen, so... | ||
| Your theory of the case is it's better not to let Bobby call the change. | ||
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Yeah, my theory of the case is he let these people grandstand, and they burned themselves out. | |
| They showed themselves to be silly. | ||
| Talking about onesies at a Senate... | ||
| Confirmation hearing is just ridiculous. | ||
| And I think they just wanted to blather on. | ||
| They didn't want to hear answers. | ||
| And that comes across to the American people. | ||
| It was only half of that committee that really wanted to hear the answers. | ||
| If you don't want to hear the answers from the person who's going to be the secretary, you're not serious about that inquiry. | ||
| And that's, to me, what came across. | ||
| Tommy Tuberville sat in that seat. | ||
| He's going to be on the Committee tomorrow of Health and Human Services. | ||
| And I asked him, I said, you know the military-industrial complex, the big tech-industrial complex, and then you had the big pharma-medical-industrial complex. | ||
| I said, rank order those. | ||
| Steve, he says, big pharma and medical is so far above military. | ||
| I said, what? | ||
| And he says, not even in comparison. | ||
| He says, they're all over. | ||
| They're everywhere. | ||
| They've got lobbyists because there's so much money. | ||
| And he says, they're so powerful. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
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Well, there are seven lobbyists for every member of Congress from the pharma industrial complex. | |
| And of course, seven lobbyists for every member of Congress. | ||
| So you have 535 members. | ||
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I'm telling you, that's the number that I've heard. | |
| Bobby's budget, $1.9 trillion, is three times the military budget. | ||
| So, yes, this is the biggest money center in the Cabinet. | ||
| And it is connected, especially around pandemic preparedness, this is connected to the military-industrial complex. | ||
| So, yes, they are extremely powerful. | ||
| And we're seeing this tremendous pushback, which we've been seeing all along. | ||
| But what's important is that Bobby Kennedy is on the cusp of confirmation. | ||
| There were thousands of people who came from all over the country. | ||
| I am certain there are millions of people watching the videos that are out there right now. | ||
| This is something the country wants to see. | ||
| The country wants to understand this vaccine issue. | ||
| And they, I think, are behind what Bobby basically his message was. | ||
| I want gold standard science and I want radical transparency. | ||
| Those were his core messages. | ||
| Is that why there's so much money through the system? | ||
| Is that why finance goes before the health care committee? | ||
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I think so. | |
| Because you're just talking about the cash is so big. | ||
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It's so great. | |
| And you have to know somebody's a fiduciary. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And when there's no transparency, how do you know the money's being honest? | ||
| You don't. | ||
| But the money's not being honest. | ||
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Well, there's tremendous corruption in the health care sector. | |
| I don't think anybody disagrees with that. | ||
| In Medicaid and Medicare that they talked about, there's tremendous levels of fraud. | ||
| And I think Bobby Kennedy will look at that. | ||
| And I think he will be positive in undercutting some of that, you know, fat. | ||
| Your understanding of this industrial complex, your understanding of Bobby Kennedy, the man and the activist, what are the one or two most important things he can accomplish for President Trump and the nation as the secretary? | ||
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Radical transparency is number one. | |
| There are closed books, Steve, that need to be opened about the chronic disease epidemic. | ||
| He is laser-focused on overcoming the chronic disease epidemic in this country. | ||
| Over half of adults and children have some kind of chronic condition. | ||
| Define that. | ||
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Chronic means it's not an acute condition. | |
| It's not an accident. | ||
| It's not an infectious disease. | ||
| It means it's asthma. | ||
| It's diabetes. | ||
| It's heart disease. | ||
| It's cancer. | ||
| And America's never been like that. | ||
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Something's happened. | |
| And as Bobby said, there can be genetic susceptibility, but there has to be some environmental trigger. | ||
| And he's an environmental scientist. | ||
| He's been looking at this kind of science. | ||
| What is the trigger? | ||
| What's making this happen? | ||
| As he said, when his uncle was president, there were like 3% of the American public that had chronic disease conditions. | ||
| They weren't spending money on it. | ||
| Now it is 90% of our health care budget. | ||
| And it's not about the money cost. | ||
| It's really about the human cost. | ||
| I thought it was really poignant when he said... | ||
| When people are healthy, they have a thousand dreams. | ||
| When people are sick, they have one dream, and that's to be healthy. | ||
| Be healthy. | ||
| Besides radical transparency, what else? | ||
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Well, gold standard science. | |
| The truth of the matter is, Steve, we look at the science around vaccines every day, and it is not transparent, and it's not honest science. | ||
| There's fake placebos that are used every day. | ||
| They game who goes into the clinical trials, and they hide the data. | ||
| The FDA doesn't do any independent science. | ||
| The drug companies do the science and they feed to FDA basically what they want to feed. | ||
| So Bobby is going to have a lot to do with creating, recreating gold standard science and bringing in, as he said, people to HHS who are really ready to engage in unbiased science and innovation. | ||
| What do you put his odds today after the Finance Committee? | ||
| What do you put his odds as confirmation? | ||
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Better than 50%. | |
| Way better than 50%. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| What does he have to do tomorrow? | ||
| Because Megan and I would love to see him more aggressive, but you're saying you don't understand the game. | ||
| The game's a confirmation. | ||
| Let the Democrats punch themselves out. | ||
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Think about what they accuse him of. | |
| They accuse him of being a nutjob. | ||
| They accuse him of being an anti-vax conspiracy theorist. | ||
| So what's the best antidote to that? | ||
| To be deliberative? | ||
| To be calm? | ||
| To be sober? | ||
| Superminded, to be rational. | ||
| I think that's what he showed today. | ||
| I think that's what he'll show tomorrow. | ||
| One of the things I was most impressed in working with you guys the last couple of years, the people involved with you guys and your movement. | ||
| I was very impressed. | ||
| Claire Dewey had some tremendous interviews on the way in the line. | ||
| But talk about those thousands of people. | ||
| You don't just had Megyn Kelly sitting back in. | ||
| You literally had people rotating in all day for those seats to show support. | ||
| Talk to us about those people. | ||
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I just talked to people who flew in from Hawaii, Steve. | |
| I talked to people. | ||
| People who flew in from Illinois, people who drove all night, people who waited on line at 1 in the morning. | ||
| People want somebody who cares about people in that job. | ||
| I think we've seen, you know, Alex Azar, Scott Gobbley, people who really came out of pharma and they went back to pharma. | ||
| Bobby's never been in pharma. | ||
| He's never been in corporate interest. | ||
| And he's there for the people. | ||
| As you said, he doesn't need this job to be secretary, but he wants children to be healthy. | ||
| He wants our country to be healthy. | ||
| Explain to our audience, what is Make... | ||
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It stands for taking America's health back from corporate interests. | |
| The corporate interests make money on sick people. | ||
| We have a sick care system. | ||
| We don't have a health system. | ||
| I think Bobby wants it to be a system that supports health. | ||
| And that's good food, that's good medicine, that may be supplements, that may be use of AI, that may be telemedicine. | ||
| It's really making available to people healthy lives. | ||
| Mary, thank you for coming. | ||
| Where do people get you? | ||
| You'll be there tomorrow. | ||
| Just make a commitment. | ||
| We want to see you tomorrow night after the second day. | ||
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You got it. | |
| Mary, where do people go to get all the information about the group and everything and all the accusations against Bobby? | ||
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Childrenshealthdefense.org. | |
| Childrenshealthdefense.org. | ||
| And do you have a social media handle? | ||
| Yes, Children's HD. Children's HD. Thank you so much. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Appreciate you. | ||
| And we're going to see you tomorrow. | ||
| Same time here. | ||
| We're going to do a wrap-up. | ||
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Same time, same place. | |
| Natalie Winters from the White House, what do they think? | ||
| Give me your assessment of Bobby Kennedy's testimony, and what's the feeling and the vibe at the White House? | ||
| I get the sense that the mainstream media sort of feels like they had a victory. | ||
| I don't think they're certainly freaking out like they did over the Pete Hegseth confirmation hearings. | ||
| Not necessarily a full-blown victory, but they're not panicked about it like I think we would expect them to be. | ||
| I think, obviously, sort of what we were talking about before in the same way that the freezing spend sort of exposes, I think, a lot of the foreign aid programs here for being the frauds, the rackets and the scams that they are in the form of, you know, the COVID and the Wuhan grants. | ||
| I think someone like Bobby Kennedy, I think you can sort of discern, you know, qui bono, right, who the entities are that have things at stake by who is funding the opposition to him. | ||
| And it wasn't really even just Democrats. | ||
| I mean, obviously, Elizabeth Warren had her, you know, spiraling out Karen moment. | ||
| But I think more of the opposition has really come from establishment Republicans, right, in the form of Mike Pence. | ||
| I think it's absolutely disgraceful, the ads that they've been running, the sort of statements that he's been putting out. | ||
| You know, Mr. Mike Pence, who wants to stand on the hill of being a staunch pro-life defender. | ||
| Shame on you. | ||
| You're the person who oversaw and ushered in the most, not just illegitimate, but most radical pro-death regime that this country has ever seen. | ||
| That was the Biden regime for the last four years. | ||
| The selective moral outrage is really lost, I think, on everyone. | ||
| I'm glad to be bashing Mike Pence on the White House lawn on. | ||
| Day two, I'll take that. | ||
| But I think that you can really see who the enemies are, and I think our audience has really stepped into the breach in terms of making the phone calls, but I don't think we get anywhere by pretending like today was a really, really good day for confirming RFK. I think that we need to continue burning down the phone lines because I would like to see my newfound mainstream media colleagues a little bit more disappointed about what happened today, but I don't think they really are. | ||
| No, I think you're right. | ||
| We've got work to do overnight and tomorrow. | ||
| 202-224-3121 or get the Bill Blaster app under Grace Chung's tutelage or Mike Davis over at Article 3. We're going to need to get to the ramparts and, of course, Tulsi tomorrow and cash. | ||
| Hang on for a second. | ||
| I want to go to Carrie Lake. | ||
| Carrie, you saw it. | ||
| Tell me about Bobby Kennedy. | ||
| What did you think about the hearing today? | ||
| Wow, I thought it was great. | ||
| I mean, it's like must-see TV watching all of these confirmation hearings. | ||
| And this one is a little more near and dear to me as well, you know, being a mom. | ||
| And I think a lot of moms are watching this. | ||
| Moms who aren't even involved in politics and maybe normally wouldn't care in politics were glued to this today. | ||
| I saw some of my mama bear friends who, you know, haven't gotten overly involved. | ||
| They don't watch your show. | ||
| They're not posse members. | ||
| They're just... | ||
| Taking care of their families. | ||
| And they were totally in tune to this today, watching somebody who's really stepped up as a hero for moms, moms who maybe have kids with autism. | ||
| You know, I had a son with severe asthma, a chronic condition like asthma, where, you know, going to the hospital a couple times a year became the norm for us. | ||
| And we want to get to the bottom of why. | ||
| Why are we seeing these diseases? | ||
| Why are we seeing more of them? | ||
| Why did it used to be one in 10,000 kids? | ||
| Had autism, and now it's one in 36 kids. | ||
| And Bobby Kennedy Jr. was the guy who was standing up to Big Pharma. | ||
| Do you know how scary that is? | ||
| Standing up to Big Pharma and the military-industrial complex, I think those are the two scariest entities in the world. | ||
| They will destroy you. | ||
| And he stood up, and he has been sounding the alarm. | ||
| I mean, the fact that he wrote this book, it's one of the best books out there, The Real Anthony Fauci. | ||
| They're scared to death, some of these people in Washington, D.C., because he's going to now be able to dig further and prove to the people what's really been going on. | ||
| And he's been right about things. | ||
| I mean, he was right about red dye. | ||
| He was about it being a carcinogen. | ||
| He was right about fluoride affecting our children's IQ. And what else does he write about? | ||
| The moms out there who have really good gut instincts about what's going on with their kids, they are connected to Bobby Kennedy Jr. because he's the first guy to stand up and say, we've got to make our country healthy again. | ||
| And I'm really looking forward to tomorrow. | ||
| I thought he did an incredible job. | ||
| I disagree with you and Megan Kelly, even though I love both of you. | ||
| I thought his temperament was perfect today. | ||
| You know, there's something very, very... | ||
| Commanding about somebody who remains calm under pressure. | ||
| When he had Elizabeth Warren screaming at him, he remained calm. | ||
| The person who's screaming is the one who looks out of control. | ||
| And there's nobody who understands the issue and the topic like Bobby Jr. If you've ever had a chance to sit and talk with him, his brain is like an encyclopedia. | ||
| And today they kept pushing vaccines, vaccines, vaccines. | ||
| I don't think that those senators realize the skepticism because of the COVID shot that moms and dads now feel out there about public health, about some of the vaccines that have been pushed on us. | ||
| They want more information, not less. | ||
| They want more transparency. | ||
| That's what we're going to get with Bobby Kennedy Jr. I thought he did an excellent job today, knocked it out of the ballpark, and I hope that he gets the votes and gets confirmed. | ||
| I think there's going to be a lot of mad mothers and fathers and young people out there who came into the movement simply because of him, who voted Republican maybe for the first time in their lives or voted for the first time in their lives, who will walk away from the Republican Party if they don't vote the right way, which is to vote. | ||
| I'm looking forward to seeing him take on Big Pharma, and I thought he did an incredible job. | ||
| It's one of the reasons that you left broadcasting and got into the MAGA movement, became one of the leading lights in the MAGA movement. | ||
| Could you feel the money in the room today? | ||
| Could you actually feel Big Pharma, Pfizer and these companies coming after Bobby Kennedy, ma'am? | ||
| Interesting that you bring that up, because I was watching. | ||
| I've been a little bit under the weather, as you can probably hear in my voice, and I was kind of laying there in bed watching. | ||
| And the people who were yelling the loudest and harping on him the most, I thought, they must be getting a payout from Big Pharma, the big pharmaceutical companies. | ||
| And sure enough, a little bit later, I noticed on social media that, you know, one of the top folks who gets money from Big Pharma is Elizabeth Warren. | ||
| You would think that the Democrats would be on his side on this. | ||
| They've talked for years about caring about our health, caring about health care. | ||
| They only care about health care if it means pouring a ton of money into the pharmaceutical companies. | ||
| And I don't think that's what health care is. | ||
| I think health care is preventing illness, is making sure that, as what Kennedy said today, what is in our food is safe. | ||
| We want to make sure that when we're feeding our families, feeding ourselves, that... | ||
| Something hasn't been put into our food that makes it unsafe and getting to the bottom of all of this. | ||
| And, you know, I thought the questions seemed to really hit only on vaccines. | ||
| There were so many other issues he talked about, about chronic illness and about, you know, really reducing the price of what we're paying for health care and getting a better quality for it, getting a more high quality, you know, health care. | ||
| And they were so condescending toward him. | ||
| It was actually embarrassing. | ||
| He's one of the smartest people I know. | ||
| Every conversation I've ever had with him, I've been amazed at the information he has that he's been able to store in his brain. | ||
| And I think he showed that today when he calmly took on these senators, let them, some of them go into hysterics, and he sat there and answered the questions the best he could with them interrupting him. | ||
| You're one of the more important people coming into this administration, one of the most important jobs, the Voice of America. | ||
| I know you've got big plans for it. | ||
| You're not Senate confirmed, but it's got to go through a process to get you there. | ||
| Talk to me about tomorrow as you see two of your colleagues going through, I think, two of the toughest sessions that will, I think, make Bobby Kennedy's pale in comparison. | ||
| That is Tulsi Gabbard at DNI and Kash Patel at FBI. Give us your pregame assessment of this, ma'am. | ||
| Well, I know both Tulsi and Cash, and I know that Tulsi is calm and cool and collected under fire. | ||
| I can't imagine her ever losing her cool. | ||
| They won't be able to trip her up. | ||
| She will remain calm and steadfast, and I know that that's going to go really well. | ||
| Look, they don't want these people. | ||
| They don't want any of Trump's people. | ||
| Cash is going to be incredible and they'll try to paint him as a conspiracy theorist and attack him. | ||
| He's going to be incredible. | ||
| They're scared to death of him getting in and rooting out corruption. | ||
| This administration is different than any We're good to go. | ||
| Do you think Bobby Kennedy or Tulsi needs this job? | ||
| No, they're doing it because they care about this country. | ||
| And we need to root out the corruption in our federal government. | ||
| And every single person that President Trump puts forth is going to be attacked. | ||
| We have to be ready for lawfare. | ||
| But we've been trained up until now. | ||
| We've been through it up until now. | ||
| Lawfare is coming our way. | ||
| We're going to get all these different Soros-based groups that have gone after many of us, including myself and President Trump and people like you and people like Rudy. | ||
| They're not gonna stop. | ||
| And so if we think that, oh no, they're coming after us, they're suing here, they're suing there, maybe we should step back and slow down. | ||
| No, we have to save this country, and that means making sure that the bureaucracy is slimmed down, making sure that the corruption is rooted out, and restoring the federal government, giving back to we the people. | ||
| This government has been running on cruise control, the bureaucracy out of control, and it's running this country off a cliff. | ||
| It stops right now. | ||
| I'm really happy with President Trump's bold agenda, what he's pushed forward. | ||
| I don't think he's had any missteps. | ||
| I think he's been doing a great job. | ||
| And, you know, along the way, there's going to be slight alterations and changes along the way. | ||
| That's to be expected. | ||
| There's a lot of moving parts right now. | ||
| And we know how the deep state works. | ||
| It's always constantly throwing a landmine in front of you. | ||
| But we've been through hell and back, many of us have, and we're ready for it. | ||
| President Trump is not sending wimpy people to Washington, D.C. He's sending a bunch of fighters, patriotic fighters. | ||
| And tomorrow we're going to see two of the greatest patriotic fighters in Tulsi Gabbard and also in Kash Patel. | ||
| I'm looking forward to it. | ||
| It's must-see TV. And I know, I believe at the end of the day, they will get the confirmation. | ||
| Carrie, can we get a commitment to you to come on tomorrow after a huge day of Bobby Kennedy, Tulsi Gabbard, and Cash Patel and join us in the 6 o'clock hour? | ||
| I would love to do it. | ||
| I would absolutely love to do it. | ||
| And, you know, I just want to let them know if they're watching tonight. | ||
| Guys, rest well and just show up. | ||
| You already know everything. | ||
| You've got it up here. | ||
| And be calm. | ||
| I mean, take a page. | ||
| I think Pete Hegseth was so great starting this all off. | ||
| He's got everyone yelling at him, and he stayed calm, cool, and collected. | ||
| That can be the scariest attitude of all. | ||
| When you're in a room with a bunch of panicking politicians, many of whom have taken money from these big, big agencies and companies, and you know what I'm talking about. | ||
| They've taken a lot of payouts. | ||
| Carrie, real quickly, what's your social media? | ||
| We've got to bounce. | ||
| What's your social media? | ||
| Carrie Lake. | ||
| At Carrie Lake. | ||
| Go to Twitter at Carrie Lake. | ||
| You can go to Getter. | ||
| You can go to Facebook as TheCarrieLake. | ||
| And all of the usual places. | ||
| Just look for Carrie Lake. | ||
| Thank you, ma'am. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| Back to the White House in a moment. | ||
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| Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | ||
| you Let's go back to the White House pregame for tomorrow. | ||
| We have Cash Patel and Tulsi Gabbard, Natalie Winters. | ||
| Talk to us about the White House's thinking of all this. | ||
| Well, I mean, I think the Pam Bondi hearing was essentially the pregame, certainly for the cash hearing. | ||
| I'm sure you could probably extend that logic to the Tulsi hearing, too. | ||
| I think all eyes are, of course, going to be, frankly, I think on the cash one, I think for two reasons. | ||
| One, I think that it sort of... | ||
| It reifies and I think represents the MAGA movement in its entirety, right? | ||
| The concept of the enemies list, the word that you're not allowed to say, certainly not here on the White House lawn, but that appendix in government gangsters. | ||
| But I think more importantly, I think it sort of represents the victory of this audience, of the war room posse, of the sort of Article 3 project, the ability to move the needle, right? | ||
| It's sort of a showdown that's not just about cash, but the thing itself is sort of us, the new MAGA, right, versus the establishment. | ||
| It's sort of a similar, I think, Hegseth. | ||
| I would say confirmation in the sense that it was supposed to be dead on arrival, right? | ||
| At least pronounced by MSNBC, but look where we are here. | ||
| There seems to be a lot of, I think, renewed media appetite in the Tulsi hearing. | ||
| There's obviously the New York Times story, what came out yesterday, but that was sort of a watered-down version of the original hit piece attack that they were going for since it was a smear to begin with. | ||
| I'll definitely be here tomorrow because I think it'll be interesting to sort of get the sense of how the media is reacting to the hearings. | ||
| But like I said, today the focus really has been on the... | ||
| It frees the aid from, I guess, the legacy media that apparently really cares about getting American people aid and benefits. | ||
| That's a newfound sentiment that I didn't know they had in them. | ||
| Where do people go to get you overnight? | ||
| There's going to be a lot of, I know, interest in the memo. | ||
| We're going to be working through other issues to get ready tonight. | ||
| But folks, you've got to understand, the White House is now a 24-7 operation. | ||
| Natalie, where do one go to catch up with you? | ||
| Natalie G. Winters on all social media platforms, and we'll see you back at the White House probably tomorrow. | ||
| Natalie, thank you so much. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| So on the eve of it, Tulsi Gabbard at DNI, Kash Patel FBI, Bobby Kennedy day two. | ||
| We got Lee Zeldin was confirmed today, so we're slowly getting there. | ||
| Senator Thune, you've got to step up. | ||
| You know, where's Russ's vote? | ||
| We've got to step up right now. | ||
| We have to have more of these votes, and we have to have them sooner. | ||
| Jim Rickards joins us. | ||
| Jim, I wanted to have you in here in the first couple of days. | ||
| Just give us your overall assessment. | ||
| You've seen a couple of three administrations. | ||
| Give us what do you think so far of President Trump's all-pedal, no-break philosophy, sir. | ||
| It's working extremely well, and it's exactly the way you described, Steve. | ||
| The progressives, the liberals, the woke, the regular Democrats, they can't keep up. | ||
| I mean, he's coming out with policies on a daily basis, announcements, executive orders, appointments, etc., any one of which might have taken months to consider and think about. | ||
| Clearly, this was all thought out in advance, all gamed out in advance. | ||
| Great. | ||
| The exact opposite of what happened in 2016. I've been a critic of that transition. | ||
| You know, that was what it was. | ||
| And then kind of got bogged down in the Russian hoax. | ||
| But this time, they're extremely well prepared. | ||
| But my point is, you know, when they did the thing with the Columbia on Sunday, putting up 25 percent tariffs, they ended up not doing that because the Colombian president caved on the subject of taking deportees. | ||
| But then, you know, the next day was the freeze on basically discretionary government payments. | ||
| No Social Security, Medicare, etc. | ||
| But that's huge. | ||
| And particularly USAID, Agency for International Development, that from the beginning... | ||
| That has been a front for the CIA. Yeah, they do some legitimate stuff. | ||
| But basically, it's just what they call a cutout, going all the way back to the days of Cord Meyer in the early 1960s. | ||
| It was a propaganda cutout. | ||
| And they just said, stop. | ||
| Just freeze everything. | ||
| You can't do anything. | ||
| Well, the media almost forgot about deportation for a minute because they were so upset about that. | ||
| And then, you know, new terminations today. | ||
| I think they just fired. | ||
| A couple of people in the Justice Department. | ||
| So the point is, every day is a super headline. | ||
| The opponents can't keep up. | ||
| And that's great because you keep the progressives off balance. | ||
| Let's talk about it. | ||
| By the way, for Worm, every day is Christmas Day. | ||
| But I want to go back to President Trump. | ||
| Just putting out the memo. | ||
| They're trying to find out where the cash is. | ||
| But this gets to impoundment. | ||
| And you mentioned USAID. I think President Trump has said, hey, I'm getting out of World Health. | ||
| I'm shutting down the Green New Deal. | ||
| There should be $300 billion worth of cash, and the media's reporting, Wall Street Journal, Financial Times, oh, it's still out there. | ||
| I think he just got frustrated and said, I want this stuff shut down. | ||
| How important is that inside the apparatus, inside the administrative state, or what Trump's doing to basically test how far he can push it before he starts deconstructing it? | ||
| It's extremely important. | ||
| I can give you a little, a quick anecdote from personal experience, you know, not billions of dollars. | ||
| I had a government contract, and there was a certain amount and a certain duty. | ||
| Okay, so I did the job, and I got paid, and what I got paid was less than the authorized amount in the contract. | ||
| So it came off a renewal. | ||
| And they increased it. | ||
| They increased the authorization. | ||
| So I said, hey, guys, I came in under budget last time. | ||
| I think I can do that again. | ||
| Why are you increasing it? | ||
| They were like, just sign it. | ||
| I said, OK, fine. | ||
| Then in year three, they did it again. | ||
| They kept increasing. | ||
| I kept coming in under budget. | ||
| And finally, I realized what they were doing is I had a bunch of, you know, whatever. | ||
| Clearances, etc. | ||
| So I was kind of inside the system, if you will. | ||
| So they were increasing me, knowing I wasn't going to charge that much money, and then reallocating it to somebody else at the end of the year. | ||
| So that's not impoundment. | ||
| Congress authorizes it. | ||
| You know, high level, fine. | ||
| The Anti-Impoundment Act says you can't freeze that authorization. | ||
| But under that umbrella, once the Congress has approved it, there are thousands of programs and enormous discretion. | ||
| So when you take a rifle shot approach to certain programs and say we're not going to spend more on this, that doesn't violate the Impoundment Act. | ||
| That's within the executive branch powers. | ||
| Now, Trump may be pushing it a little bit, but that's fine. | ||
| It needs to be pushed. | ||
| So I think he's well within his... | ||
| Legal authority. | ||
| He's not violating the Anti-Impoundment Act. | ||
| And that's one of the reasons they're so up in arms. | ||
| If this were an easy case to shoot down with the Anti-Impoundment Act, they wouldn't be complaining about it. | ||
| But it actually works. | ||
| We'd like to work and try to get you on tomorrow because I want to have you on after Cash and Tulsi. | ||
| But can you give us a pregame? | ||
| We've got a couple of minutes left here. | ||
| The pregame on Tulsi Gabbard. | ||
| What is Jim Rickards going to be looking for in her testimony and for this audience to ensure that she can actually get confirmed? | ||
| What to you, Jim, are the two or three most important points? | ||
| Well, I followed all the appointments and the hearings very closely, but I am most focused on Tulsi Gabbard. | ||
| She is so well-qualified. | ||
| We've met, I had a very long conversation with her. | ||
| The thing that throws you off guard about Tulsi, she's not only brainy and experienced and well-qualified, she's a really nice person. | ||
| I mean, there are a lot of smart people in the Beltway who aren't that nice. | ||
| She just, you know, kind of checks every box. | ||
| Now, here's the thing. | ||
| She's being beaten up over the fact that she met with Bashar al-Assad, who was recently, you know, deposed. | ||
| President of Syria. | ||
| What is the spy supposed to do? | ||
| What are they supposed to do? | ||
| I'm not talking about, you know, I was kind of sitting at a desk doing analysis and lying. | ||
| I'm talking about out in the field, clandestine service, etc. | ||
| You're supposed to go to the target country, cultivate the local elites, everyday people too, because they can be a source, but cultivate the local elites, get information, and report it back. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| That's what she did. | ||
| How many people in Langley have met with Bashar al-Assad? | ||
| He's supposedly the greatest enemy in the United States, you know, etc. | ||
| Are you meeting with him? | ||
| I know people who interrogated Saddam Hussein. | ||
| There were only a handful of those. | ||
| She actually met with the leader of a rival, got information, and brought it back. | ||
| That's like the perfect spy. | ||
| So don't tell me she doesn't know what she's doing on the intelligence side. | ||
| She's an active duty. | ||
| Army lieutenant colonel in the reserve, but active duty, you know, she reports for duty a certain number of times a year. | ||
| You know what she does in the military? | ||
| Psychological operations. | ||
| That's her command, is psyops. | ||
| That's all the CIA does. | ||
| I mean, yeah, they blow things up, you know, pipelines and stuff like that. | ||
| But basically, from the beginning, again, I'm going back to the 1950s and Kurt Meyer and Frank Wisner, but all the way through, right up until today. | ||
| They mostly tell lies. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| The CIA, I guess, it's legal to break the law. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| But they mostly tell lies and engage in propaganda. | ||
| Her command is psychological operations. | ||
| And I worked with the CIA, but I also worked with the Director of National Intelligence. | ||
| One of my assignments got moved over when DNI was created. | ||
| So I worked in both agencies. | ||
| I know them very well from the inside. | ||
| I can't think of it. | ||
| Now, why are they going to beat her up? | ||
| They're going to beat her up because she has serious reservations about the war in Ukraine. | ||
| And you've got people like Lindsey Graham and others on the Republican side, not just the Democratic side, who are total warmongers. | ||
| And that's the real opposition to her. | ||
| So I think she'll hold up very well, very well composed, smart and all the things I mentioned. | ||
| But she's actually shown that she's the perfect spy, but they're somehow going to turn that around on her and say, why are you meeting with the enemy? | ||
| Well, that's what you're supposed to do. | ||
| This is going to be amazing, Mark. | ||
| Jim, I've got to talk to you afterwards and try to get you on here tomorrow. | ||
| Jim, where do people go? | ||
| RickardsWarRoom.com. | ||
| But I want to talk, give it a minute or two on your newsletters. | ||
| Why, now more than ever, with capital markets roiling, geopolitics changing, why do they need to get up to speed on your newsletters? | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| You're right, Steve. | ||
| It is RickardsWarRoom.com. | ||
| RickardsWarRoom.com. | ||
| That's our landing page. | ||
| You go there. | ||
| We have some videos and other materials, but it's basically an offer of our flagship newsletter, Strategic Intelligence. | ||
| We have some others, but this is the big one. | ||
| We put out 7,000 or 8,000 words a month, one issue a month. | ||
| That's book length over the course of a year. | ||
| We said that Biden was not going to be the nominee in September 2023. Forget 2024. We said it in September 2023 that Joe Biden would not be the Democratic nominee. | ||
| You know, we called the electoral vote 312, stuck the landing. | ||
| I think we were the only ones who got it exactly right. | ||
| So we have a very good track record with our forecasting. | ||
| We use proprietary methods, but you'll get all that in strategic intelligence, our key flagship newsletter. | ||
| And you won't be able to. | ||
| It's addictive reading. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| To tie it all together, Cord Meyer's ex-wife, Mary Myers, was Jack Kennedy's favorite mistress. | ||
| Just to wrap it all up, Jim Rickards, social media, where did people go beside me? | ||
| Mary Myers' diary, by the way, her diary has never been disclosed. | ||
| The best information was given to Jim Angleton, but that's not clear. | ||
| I'm hoping when the Kennedy papers come out, that'll be one of them, but my guess is they destroyed it. | ||
| I'll have you on and we'll tell the whole story about that so the audience gets it. | ||
| It's an amazing story. | ||
| Rickards, thank you, brother. | ||
| I'll talk to you tonight. | ||
| I'd love to have you back on tomorrow to do a post-game on Tulsi Gabbard and Kash Patel. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| Interesting story. | ||
| We want to seat our next guest. | ||
| In fact, when Mary Myers was actually, I don't know, murdered jogging on the Georgetown towpath in the middle of the day. | ||
| Kind of cloudy who did it. | ||
| A guy was found guilty, but later I think they rescinded that very questionable how it happened. | ||
| They went to Mary Meyer's artist kind of, not a loft, but an artist place in Georgetown. | ||
| Ben Bradley, who was her brother-in-law, got there, and he was Jack Kennedy's friend. | ||
| When they got into the little artist house, carriage house, they looked and... | ||
| James Jesus Angleton was already there from the CIA. Two great guests, George Papadopoulos and Simona Mangente. | ||
| Right here is the mic. | ||
| So hold it. | ||
| You guys are launching a major podcast today, correct? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Tell us about Global View. | ||
| Why are you doing it? | ||
| Papadopoulos, you guys are in the film business. | ||
| You're in L.A. You're living the good life. | ||
| Why would you get in the podcast business? | ||
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Well, we have been enough targets, and we have seen unfolding too much fake news. | |
| You're an actress, don't you know to hit the mic? | ||
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Yeah, I'm in. | |
| I know you're an actress, and the podcast business is very different. | ||
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It's just to hide my accent. | |
| Hold it, this is two convicts in a Russian... | ||
| He and I are convicts. | ||
| Papadopoulos went to jail too, right, for the whole Russia hoax. | ||
| And you were accused of being a Russian spy. | ||
| And you're actually Italian. | ||
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Yes, actually 100% Italian. | |
| And I've been following your incredible career in Italy when it came to shape our nationalist leader, Giorgia Meloni and Matteo Salvini and many others. | ||
| So you are very much appreciated by the nationalist people. | ||
| How does Rachel Maddow and Shifty Shift all the time on MSNBC refer to you as a Russian spy? | ||
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They're crazy. | |
| I mean, literally, they think my accent is Russian. | ||
| I don't know if they ever spoke to a Russian person in their life. | ||
| And also, you know, it's kind of an easy stereotype. | ||
| You know, you just take blonde hair, so, you know, kind of light eyes, and that's it. | ||
| So it's kind of a busy... | ||
| That shows you how accurate they are in their investigations, right? | ||
| They're really accurate. | ||
| And they've been after your husband forever. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And, you know, of course, I happened to be in his life right at the moment when he was involved in this Russian investigation, and they taught to use me to feed that narrative. | ||
| So it was kind of an easy fit from their point of view because they don't care about people, they don't care about reputation, they just care about how to push their narrative more and more. | ||
| Georgie, let's get that mic right between you guys. | ||
| You were the first person, correct me if I'm wrong, you were the very first person the deep state targeted in the entire resistance to Trump and trying to shut Trump down back in 20... | ||
| 2015, correct? | ||
| 2015. In the spring of 2015, you were targeted, right? | ||
| The whole thing starts from you being targeted. | ||
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No, it's an incredible story, Steve, and thanks a lot for having us, by the way. | |
| So I had actually worked for Dr. Ben Carson's presidential campaign first, and what I think was really going on was that there was an operation targeting a lot of the leaders of the opposition against Hillary Clinton and the third Obama term. | ||
| So people like Carson, Ted Cruz, and of course... | ||
| Of course, Donald Trump's campaign were all targeted, and this actually was revealed in incredible reporting by people like Matt Taibbi and Schellenberger in the New York Post. | ||
| So I was initially one of the first targets. | ||
| I don't know if I was the first target, but certainly they put their eyes on me, not only domestic intelligence, but foreign intelligence, and put together the biggest political spying scandal in modern American history that we fought back against, Steve. | ||
| We won, and now accountability is coming. | ||
| Okay, we only got a couple of minutes. | ||
| I got to get this straight. | ||
| You went through hell. | ||
| Actually, you went through hell. | ||
| They've tortured you and said you're a Russian spy. | ||
| They smeared you. | ||
| They've done everything to you. | ||
| You guys do that. | ||
| You're finally in L.A. You're in the movie business. | ||
| You're enjoying life. | ||
| Why do you come back and get, because once you start in the podcast business, you're also now a target, a new target. | ||
| Why are you guys doing this? | ||
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It's a way, it's a comeback. | |
| It's a way to deliver a real perspective on a narrative that has been manipulated by the so-called mainstream, which I believe has no future moving forward. | ||
| I believe that Trump victory, the second term, will shape and change cultures and besides politics. | ||
| Americans already decided where they stand. | ||
| You know, have been an overwhelming victory. | ||
| 80 million people decided who they trust. | ||
| Now it's time to put back the trust where it matters. | ||
| So free voices like yours. | ||
| You'll be an inspiration in that, by the way. | ||
| And, you know, being, yes, you used to be the target. | ||
| So it's not going to be much of a difference. | ||
| So you guys are going to go off. | ||
| It's principally the, and we're going to say in a second where you get the podcast and where your social media. | ||
| Is your target audience International people want to understand what's happening in America, or is it America that want to have a broader international perspective, or is it both? | ||
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It's both, and that's why we really wanted you to be our first guest. | |
| And it was an incredible, tremendous honor. | ||
| It was supposed to be 20 minutes and went a little longer? | ||
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Yes. | |
| A lot of incredible information that we had. | ||
| Well, you guys ask great questions. | ||
| And then you just wind me up and let me go. | ||
| So what is it? | ||
| Is it more people internationally want to know what's happening here? | ||
| And you add a perspective, or do you think you bring in guests and perspectives internationally that people, particularly the MAGA movement, may not have? | ||
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It's both ways, and I believe, for example, at this time, we have populist movements raising all over the world, and specifically in Europe, as you well know, because you advise the many nationalist leaders over there. | |
| So, understanding how politics are unfolding over there, and how America, with its new leader, Donald Trump, will position and will influence their decision. | ||
| Brexit happened before us. | ||
| Brexit was in June 16. And I say it's always been the predicate for kind of the Trump. | ||
| You could see what was happening. | ||
| Are the movements there, although they're not grabbing power in many of the governments, but they're taking governments down, are they more advanced than we are or are they trailing us? | ||
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They keep having this tendency to follow American leadership. | |
| And I think America leads. | ||
| And that's why it's very important to understand the impact the United States have globally. | ||
| That's why we call it Global View. | ||
| And also the responsibility of European leaders to actually adopt a coherent strategy. | ||
| Think about the war in Ukraine. | ||
| That's, I think, a weight of responsibility and also leadership, because America is still his. | ||
| The example. | ||
| You know, some of my issues with Maloney, who I do think the war looks, as you and I have talked, she's got these tremendous skills on the political stage, is about the Ukraine war, right? | ||
| We just heard from Jim Ricketts before he walked in here. | ||
| Why they're going after Tulsi Damar is really her positions on the Ukraine war. | ||
| That is a huge dividing thing between the America First movement and the establishment. | ||
| Your assessment right now, because it's so important in Italian politics, Where is the perspective of Europe right now on the Ukraine war? | ||
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Well, they're pretty much following the leadership of Ursula von der Leyen. | |
| So the EU, whatever it is, if it can be considered a unity of any kind, is implementing the socialist trend that Biden set. | ||
| So basically, even our nationalist leader, Georgia Medoni, which I also esteem a lot, she followed Biden lead on this topic and started to, you know, vote. | ||
| For implementing sanctions to Russia and sending our tax money, Italian citizen tax money to Ukraine and military aid and all these kind of things. | ||
| So obviously, I don't know how she will align right now her policies to the new. | ||
| A shift that finally is happening here. | ||
| We've got to bounce. | ||
| Where did they get the show launches tonight? | ||
| Where do people go to get your first episode? | ||
| We want to drive as much traffic there as possible. | ||
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The show is starting and launching tonight. | |
| You are our first guest. | ||
| Global View, you can find all the updates right now on our X account. | ||
| I'm at GeorgePapa19. | ||
| Simona? | ||
| Yes, Simona Mangiante, but I think yours is easier. | ||
| And there's a YouTube channel as well, Global View. | ||
| This is free to download. | ||
| Everybody's free, totally free content. | ||
| Once again, where do they go to get the first episode? | ||
| Grace Chung, we'll push it out hard, but where do they go? | ||
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You can find it on YouTube right now, Global View with Papadopoulos. | |
| You can just type that in. | ||
| It should come up. | ||
| And then on X at GeorgePapa19, we'll be posting segments on there moving forward. | ||
| Is it going to be every week? | ||
| It's a weekly show? | ||
| Or are you guys going to start weekly? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| It's going to be weekly. | ||
| And we're expecting to have both domestic and international guests to put together House Simone. | ||
| Let's have a big kickoff. | ||
| Thank you guys for coming. | ||
| Thanks for having me coming on. | ||
| Okay, we're going to be back at 10 a.m. | ||
| Eastern Time tomorrow morning. | ||
| It's going to be wild. | ||
| Tulsi Gabbard, Cash Patel, Bobby Kennedy, live from the Capitol. |
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